>SDF chief Mazloum Abdi says that the integration of Kurdish-led forces into the Syrian state is complete, adding that "our struggle will continue to guarantee the rights of the Kurdish people in the Syrian constitution" "The phase of integrating the military, security and administrative institutions into the state institutions has ended, and from today onward, a new phase has begun,” he said, calling on the people of the region to protect the "institutions established through the sacrifices of martyrs, and to support and preserve them."
73 posts and 13 image replies omitted.>>2898162>FULL WAR FOREVER OR NOTHING anons are just misanthropic freaks, quite frankly.Practically speaking a lot of them also died during years of fighting so they might not be in a position to mount much of a resistance anyways.
>>2897807>It's goofy enough when people say that about China but the Russian Federation is literally run by mobsters.Yeah but the mobsters can make people go with it because it makes them feel like they're part of something big.
It is now de jure
>The commander of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces on Tuesday announced the official dissolution of the group, which once controlled a de facto autonomous zone in Syria’s northeast. >Speaking in a news conference at the presidential palace in Damascus, Mazloum Abdi said the SDF has completed a merger with the Syrian army and would cease to operate as an independent force. https://apnews.com/article/syrian-democratic-forces-dissolution-mazloum-abdi-1b7d210c96d2c608007b0411db25f453>>2897807if you go to some places or the youtube comments you find people praising mobsters all the time because they used to hand out a buck in the street, 'clean up' the place of crime, and hand out turkys at christmas.
by 'clean up' they mean shoot black people if they came into the neighbourhood.
its not that far fetched when state leaders do it.
>>2900432Mazlum Abdi said:
>"Mr. President, the families of our heroic martyrs, comrades in arms; the girls and boys of our country, the people of Syria:
>We stand before you today at a historic moment, turning an important page in the history of Syria and opening a new history whose title is peace, stability, and nation-building.
>Since the formation of the Syrian Democratic Forces, its fighters have played a major role in the most difficult phases that Syria has gone through. The fighters liberated many cities and towns in Syria, from the Baathist government to the ISIS terror.
>In these battles, our fighters paid a heavy price and sacrificed their lives. Thousands of martyrs died to ensure a safe future for the children of Syria.
>Today, the conditions have changed and the country has entered a new phase, the title of which is peace, partnership in building a new Syria. After reaching an agreement with President Al-Shera and completing the process of integrating our forces into the brigades of the Syrian army, we announce today the end of the SDF mission. We responsibly announce its dissolution as an independent military force.
>"We will carry the memories of our martyrs together and keep their sacrifices in our consciences; because they fought not because of war, but because of the day when Syrians will no longer need war. We want this day to be the beginning of a real change from battlefields to construction zones, from the era of weapons to the era of peace, from the stage of protecting Syria to the stage of building Syria."
>Regarding cultural rights and education in the Kurdish language, Ebdi said: "The right to learn in the Kurdish language is one of the important rights that our Kurdish people have been fighting for for decades. Mr. President has declared his support for this right on many occasions."
>"We have felt an open stance on the right to learn in one's mother tongue and to develop the current brotherhood in the future. We will implement this decision this year so that we can build on it in the near future."Newroz Ehmed, the YPJ commander is currently in meetings in Damascus so it looks like that issue will be resolved over the next few days and hte move to political sphere will be complete, for now at least. Curious to see how it pans out.
>>2900451>Mazlum AbdiImagine being that ugly bureaucrat and still having the gull to show your face but I suppose Kurds need a good lapdog to keep them in line
>>2897097So now AANES can't even have a NATO protectorate petrostate?
I like the "eternal war" cope because it implicitly acknowledges that Rojava/AANES/SDF utility ends with war, and keeping the war going was the only way NATO would allow them to keep the LARP going. And now Kissinger is coming to collect his due.
>>2897156>ethno-nationalism>marginalized minoritiesHe's saying this when the Assad government was Alawite, a minority.
>>2897289Russian nationalism is civilizational, not ethno-based like Kurdish or Ukrainian nationalism
On the topic of Rojava, here's an article by Troploin regarding the revolution called "Rojava: Reality & Rhetoric" published in 2015:
https://www.troploin.fr/node/83Either way, it is sad to see them go despite them not being socialist. I feel sad most for the martyrs who genuinely believed that Rojava was actually socialist or was moving towards socialism.
May it be a lesson for the socialist movement.
>>2897914What is the source on this?
Also it talks about the returns to Afrin and Serê Kaniyê which is good but 1) Kurds are now minorities in these regions due to ethnic cleansing and 2) the YPG has no force there whereas Afrin was its stronghold previously. They are also outside of this "Shadow Rojava" as you could put it.
>>2900627The returns are happening currently but there is a lot of problems, as in Afrin at least it is some of the most reactionary of the Damascus alliance that is holding these positions, moved their fighters into Kurdish homed, shootings and tensions have occured with the last returnees, ots of mass looting and destruction of the homes and crops from the reactionaries too, just out of spite.
>>2900590A religious minority but not an ethnic one. Ba'athism is an Arab ethnonationalist ideology.
>>2901302Yes, so we were right like we were saying all along, the dissolution will come with meetings in Damascus and an official announcement (two days ago), not from a cultural event in Qamishli.
24 news addiction is such an affliction.
>>2901295>>2901294Nevar forget these are the retards who went to Shengal to rescue the Yazidi but instead got into firefights with them before going home.
>>2901340
Why do Pakistanis hate kurds so much seriously one of them tried to stab someone at a demo we organised.
>>2901376They love Erdogan too much
>>2901386What is that even supposed to mean?
Have you really devolved so far you cannot form a coherent sentence?
Why do you retards have to come here and treat the site like your twitter feeds? Every day it feels more embarrassing that i share a website with you people.
Why don't Iran and Hezbollah launch an intervention to overthrow the Jolani regime and restore the Ba'ath to power in Syria?
>>2901831The Ba'ath Party itself accepted defeat and dissolved.
>>2901831Hezbollah is only capable of killing unarmed Shiite protesters
>>2897312>civilizational stateWe know it's you, Dugin
>>2901831They wouldn't restore the Ba'ath Party, they'd probably install some kind of Alawite supremacist org. Syria would be a theocracy, just a minoritarian Shia one.
>>2897166The Assad Regime was corrupt to the bone and was run by a brutal dictator. His own army wasn't even loyal enough to him to actually fight back. Hitler's infamous quote about the soviet union describes his regime perfectly "We have only to kick in the door, and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down" all this proves is Assad was not worth defending and needed someone more competent at the helm.
While compare that to Rojava and SDF who held out for more than a year and a half. Who had international volunteers fighting for them. They had socialization of the means of production. The people living there actually wanted to fight protect revolutionary gains.
>>2901954You can shit talk Assad without quoting Hitler, my guy.
>>2897505This. They were dwarfed in strength compared to International Jihadism©. It would be a miracle that they could have captured the state
>>2901954>blah blah blah Assad blah blah biji biji You got thrown under the bus by America within a year of their new brand of inbred headchopper inc. You had no ideological structure because the majority of NE Syria were Sunni Arab tribesmen that couldn't give less of a shit of SDF which is why they were dumping portraits and flags and doing riots after Assad fell lmfao.
No leftist came to save the "revolution". No leftist cared anymore. All the international volunteers left Syria. Literally within weeks after Assad they stopped caring about Kurds. You now have to rely on some neoliberal prostie with his clique of stupid jihadists that totally wont chop peoples heads off at any chimp out lmao
>>2901831>why won't Iran and Hezbollah help the most pathetic mindraped retards in the region?Syria is such a busted up shithole that Iran and Hezbollah's arms trafficking were barely deterred. There is no reason to restore Ba'athism because Arabs would rather prefer being braindead religious idiots.
>>2901980>kurds got thrown under the busI dont see single person who supported rojava thought the American support was permanent. Everyone knew the alliance was temporary for defeating a common emeny. Not to mention if you are going to make that argument Assad was thrown under the bus by the Russians.
>>2901959The quote perfectly describes Assads Regime.
is this the thread for apologising to OldBO?
You were right. I'm sorry.
>>2901954>held out for more than a year and a half>The people living there actually wanted to fightJolanistan kicked in the door this January and every single Arab east of the Euphrates (the majority population in the region and within the SDF militias itself) seized the opportunity to switch sides in 48 hours. The Assad regime and the SDF were quite similar in that regard.
>>2901981>because Arabs would rather prefer being braindead religious idiots.Reported for racism
Timmy said this to defend a literal theocracy that murders women in three (3) countries including 2 arab ones to keep them from showing hair
>>2901980>You got thrown under the bus by America within a yearThe Russians did that to Assad though.
>which is why they were dumping portraits and flags and doing riots after Assad fell lmfaoOthers like Kurds, Syriacs, etc stated loyal though. In Assad's case even Arabs didn't want to fight for him despite Ba'athism being an Arab ethnonationalist ideology.
>>2902187"Mazloum Abdi" is also an Arabic name lol
>>2902001>every single Arab east of the Euphrates (the majority population in the region and within the SDF militias itself) seized the opportunity to switch sides in 48 hours.Thats not true lmao. It was the Arabtribes who switched, not a bunch of individual initiatives.
>>2901982Americans didn't even support Rojava, it's just a retard talking point. America supported the SDF in the anti ISIS mission and literally nothing else.
>>2902072>The Russians did that to Assad though.How do you figure
>>2901954>blablabla "pro democracy" GWOT editorializingPoint stands though:
Rojava was a failure. And the root of the problem was being predicated on US/NATO support in exchange for guarding the oil.
Rojava was given a profitable petrostate, NATO sanction waivers and NATO military aid. Today, al-Nusra rules over them and NATO has rewarded Türkiye against Kurdish nationalism.
If there was a plan, it was a failure.
>>2902278>NATO has rewarded Türkiye against Kurdish nationalism.Kurdish nationalism seems stronger than ever. On the cusp of language rights across two countries, the peace process in Turkey.
Economically Syria is going nowhere good, Turkey too. Extracting the concessions they are attempting probably makes more sense than dying in a big bloody war when by any analysis the future is full of opportunities.
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