>SDF chief Mazloum Abdi says that the integration of Kurdish-led forces into the Syrian state is complete, adding that "our struggle will continue to guarantee the rights of the Kurdish people in the Syrian constitution" "The phase of integrating the military, security and administrative institutions into the state institutions has ended, and from today onward, a new phase has begun,” he said, calling on the people of the region to protect the "institutions established through the sacrifices of martyrs, and to support and preserve them."
>fell for it again award
Took longer than I expected, but who didn't see this one coming after the victory of liberal jihadism?
Another L for nationalism copers
I can't believe the anarchist police got abolished fr 😔🙏
but if islamists made kurds stateless that means Kurds achieved anarchist society!
first try at Proudhonist socialism (still lasted more than any anarchist experiment)
Common anarKKKist L. At least it lasted longer than CHAZ!
Anarcho-Ethnonationalism lost the battle in 1945. It lost the war in 2026.
Another defeat for socialists who still believe in nationalism.
betrayed assad for nothing award
The MLs, ziggers and and anti-imperialists will celebrate. But Rojava stood for all that they believe, just that it was kurd nationalism instead of their beloved russian or arab nationalism. Seems like ultras have the burden of being always correct.
Now the only PKK affiliate that hasn't dissolved and does not plan to is PJAK in Iran
>>2897167>Rojava stood for all that they believe,what they stood for was petty production, no centralization and nationalism
>>2897167>The MLs, ziggers and and anti-imperialists will celebrateThat's 90% of rojmeme base doe
>>2897176PJAK isn’t even in Iran, they’re in Iraqi Kurdistan
Have you actually been following what's been going on in Syria and in the north east? Removal of all subsidies, privatization of everything, Kurdish returnees to the occupied areas attached by Jihadis.
It's delusional in my opinion to think that its le OVER and this will end in anything but yet another Kurdish revolt.
>>2897259>PJAK isn’t even in Iran, they’re in Iraqi KurdistanBoth. PJAK is really the only Kurdish party with a strong base in Iran.
>>2897167How is kurdish nationalism so different in character to russian nationalism? They're both secular, enrole women, don't like lgbt etc.
>>2897097<when i go to search for literally any random article about this:>Abdi confirmed that all non-Syrian Kurdish forces previously assisting the SDF have withdrawn from the area, a reference to non-Syrian fighters affiliated with the PKK. Nevertheless, Abdi didn’t make any concrete statements on whether completing integration also means the SDF’s dissolution. Additionally, there have been no statements clarifying the role of the all-female Kurdish Women’s Protection Units (YPJ) forces.>Abdi didn’t make any concrete statements on whether completing integration also means the SDF’s dissolution. <HMMM DMMMM I DEFINETLY THINK THIS MEANS THEY DISSOLVEDWhy are you mental midgets like this? Why do you even post here?
>>2897167Ultras have the burden of always cheerleading for the U.S, Israel and its lapdogs (but with marxist terminology)
OGBO was right
>>2897289Russia is a civilizational state while “Kurdistan” is a Zionist invention
>>2897312You've been proven to be wrong on this little talking point of yours so many times over the years yet you keep coming back to try to connect Rojava to Zionism to an increasingly deminished userbase.
I'll never understand autism.
>>2897291Are you a retard that can't make the difference between de jure and de facto? I think so. Do you think the Republic of Artsakh still exists because its army was not dissolved? Well, Abdi announced the completion of the military, security and administrative integration of SDF & its administration into Syrian institutions.
The SDF literally doesn't exist anymore as its soldiers are part of the Syrian Army. The YPG and YPJ (womens unit) flags are being removed, and those pics are from Hassakah, not some 99% arab hamlet.
OldBO, if you are here, I am terribly sorry, you have been completely vindicated.
>>2897466Nah, it was that attitude that sank the Ba'athists in the first place, which in turn doomed Rojava. This was like the KPD and SPD all over again. A pig headed refusal to acknowledge the realities on the ground and the wolves waiting in the wings created the worst possible outcome.
Almost 11 years, not bad for "a dozen US airbases in Syria" RIP Rojava I guess.
They’re probably going to be forced to reemerge when this al Qaeda regime falls, I give it five years at most
>>2897559Well the new government doesn't exactly have the best track record with minorities, although the people who have borne the brunt of this have been religious rather than ethnic minorities. To my knowledge most Kurds are Sunni so they shouldn't have it as bad as the Druze or Alawites. That being said, I'm deeply skeptical of the new government's ability to address the issues that led to the creation of the PYD in the first place. So you may end up with a resumption of the pre-civil war status quo where the Kurds go back to operating an underground movement with an armed wing.
>>2897434Anon saying that they desolved themselves is making an implication that clearly they are not making, that the bargaining and talks are over and they have fully submitted. That is at a glance factually untrue.
>The SDF literally doesn't exist anymore as its soldiers are part of the Syrian Army.Not at all. These discussions are still being had. You quite literally just made this up out of thin air.
>>2897565>>2897559There are already daily protests through the region with many issues still not even closed to resolved. If it goes on like this i don't even see it lasting that long.
>>2897596
>Thats literally what they did lol. The US threw them under the bus, they only existed to fuck over Assad so the new biomass Sunnoid that sucks their dick harder can take over. They have no political support for their ideas, the region itself was majority Arab who gave less of a shit about anything Rojava was.
What are you on about about? We were discussing the talks between the NE and Damascus which have been proceeding over the last year.
>>2897596
>What discussions. Abdi handed over Kurds to HTS on a silver platter for bullshit promise of pwetty pwese dont kill us in ten years.
source?
>>2897582>Anon saying that they desolved themselves is making an implication that clearly they are not making, that the bargaining and talks are over and they have fully submitted. That is at a glance factually untrue.So you are saying Abdi is doing some kind of 200 autism score move by removing every single symbol of the SDF IN KURDISH MAJORITY AREAS "while discussions are still being held"? You realize you don't have a single source from the last days that go in your way, right? SDF military have been integrated in the Syrian Army, if you think it's Turkish/STG propaganda you are just coping.
>On 20 August, General Mazloum Abdi announced that ‘the military, security and administrative integration process has been completed’. This came weeks after the formation of the four new SDF/YPG brigades within the 60th & 72nd Divisions was completed and the Asayish forces took control of the remaining positions in the contact zones following the withdrawal of the STG. The withdrawal of non-Syrian Kurdish forces, which had fought for years within the ranks of the SDF, was also announced.However, despite the official announcement, the process of integrating certain SDF institutions into the national structure remains pending, as does the implementation of the rights of the Kurdish population (and their protection against the anti-Kurdish campaign by Arab tribes) promised by the Syrian transitional government in January. It also remains to be determined how the ‘autonomous’ zone of Hasakah will function, and which powers will be shared and which will be regional.
The only "negociations" remaining are leftover SDF institutions: SDF don't have a territory nor an army, exactly like Artsakh. It has de facto dissolved.
>>2897653What source do you have anon? One statement made by Abdi during a cultural event? How in any way does this show that the issues i mentioned have been resolved?
I don't know what the rest of this schizobabble you wrote is about, you seem to simply enjoy the sound of your own pontificating.
here's how Rojava can still win
>>2897683Lmao
>>2897708I remember someone saying it would historically progressive for Iran to lose to the USA because it would give birth to something like Rojava and… Well…
>>2897167Holy bait
>>2897712You have even more typos now
>>2897582>i don't even see it lasting that longoh it will last,until Israel is ready to annex more of it,then the leader gets no support and immediately get couped by another US puppet while they grow their territory
>>2897721>Abdi didn’t make any concrete statements on whether completing integration also means the SDF’s dissolution. Additionally, there have been no statements clarifying the role of the all-female Kurdish Women’s Protection Units (YPJ) forces.Literally your first citation.
Fucking moron.
>>2897167>MLs, ziggers and and anti-imperialists will celebrateno. And just cause many warned that they'd get fucked over eventually and helping the US was a bad move both ideologically and strategically, doesnt mean they're happy to see them crushed or that assad wasnt as retarded for not offering them actual concessions.
I dont see how ultras were ever correct, and an actual ultra prolly wouldnt be happy with them either anyway.
you should kill yourself you retarded baiting fucker
>>2897741Tbh it's not an absurd concept though Russia wouldn't really qualify as one. The issue is more that people use it to arbitrarily declare which nationalities are real and which ones are fake, as if they aren't all socially constructed.
>>2897480KPD wound up in control of more of Germany than it would have otherwise.
>>2897755Yeah by forming a coalition with the SPD lol
What about the SSNP?
>>2897818Scattered across Europe, they ones that remained in Syria probably keep a low profile.
>>2897818Lives in Lebanon.
>>2897302>>2897466Old BO Apology Form[ ] The media convinced me Assad was a brutal diKKKtator
[ ] I fell for Bookchinist propaganda
[ ] My hatred for tankies blinded me
[ ] I was 17 at the time and not sure what Anarchism even means
[ ] I was down bad for YPJ hotties.
[ ] Other: (write here)
I will hereby respect the Old BO and ADMIT he was right about Rojava. Less “Fallen” but More of a “become a state within a state”
Can’t spell BOZO without BO
With that being said, old Rojava is Defs kill
Analytical report · compiled 19 August 2026 · evidence base runs through 19 August 2026 · supersedes the 15 July, 4 August and 13 August working files on the points noted in
§10
Executive summary
Constitutional Rojava is dead; functional Rojava persists. The January 2026 agreement transferred symbolic and legal layers to the
Syrian Transitional Government while the PYD-led movement retained the substantive ones: armed cadre, ground control, the oil core, the
fiscal circuit, personnel and demography. This was the exchange of contested illegitimacy for uncontested-but-hollow legitimacy, with
substance retained — an acquisition, not a trade.
The wrapper covers the three files that matter, and the same three the state most needs. In oil, sovereign title sits over an American
operator whose workforce, subsurface data and physical security all come from the administration's own apparatus. In military-security, four
brigades, roughly nine thousand internal security personnel and the checkpoint network were rebadged with personnel continuity intact. In
education, the administration's 2026–27 curriculum was printed before the medium-of-instruction question was settled, and movement cadre
are being appointed to run district education complexes while Damascus offers two hours of Kurdish a week.
Mid-August produced the clearest demonstration to date, and the state's own officers produced it. Two Ministry of Defence soldiers
killed at Tawil Harb were buried in Qamishlo with no Syrian flag present — certified as such by the principal hostile account — and mourned
under YPG, YPJ and TEV-DEM colours. The Deputy Defence Minister for the Eastern Region publicly claimed them as “our fighters” and
martyrs, in Kurmancî, and claimed jurisdiction over “our region.
” Days later HAT and YPJ paraded in Qamishlo in their own insignia, under the
YPJ flag and an Öcalan portrait, to the Kurdish anthem, before a large civilian crowd. Neither Damascus nor Ankara is reported to have
responded.
The load-bearing deterrent is a domestic veto, not foreign capital. Earlier drafts held that the operator's exposure constrained
Damascus and Ankara — an inference about someone else's cost–benefit, and the same reasoning family that failed in January. The stronger
claim requires no one to be persuaded: dispersed cadre with intact FPV capability, trained operators and multiple resupply corridors can make
the greater Rmeilan complex and any trans-Jazira right-of-way uneconomic for a decade, unilaterally, and cannot be verified away.
The arrangement holds because displacing it is expensive and al-Sharaa's survival is decided elsewhere. He cannot win the
movement's loyalty; he can only negotiate with it. He can hope to absorb Aleppo. So he spends his capital there and manages the northeast at
arm's length. The unified Northern Region Corps — cantons plus border belt, Aleppo kept out and paired with Idlib — is the institutional
expression of that triage, whoever intended it.
What is not settled. The YPJ's status is contested between the political and armed tracks. Dissolution of the SDF and the administration has
been formally demanded and formally conditioned on guarantor states. Civil integration is stalling at the Arab periphery. Political exclusion is
structural. And the whole arrangement is a decision by other parties, not a structure — the honest statement of its fragility.
So if anyone wants to read the specifics read pdf related
>>2897914At least they made a lot of money selling Syrian oil under Assad's ass to the US/Turkey/Israel.
>muh democratic confederalism
>muh grass-root decision making
>top military leadership just surrenders
Lel
>>2897914>>2897931>At least they made a lot of money selling Syrian oil under Assad's ass to the US/Turkey/Israel.Not really. Most of it got split between civilian and military use, hard to sell to get processed and any funds brought in were important to the state subsidies.
>>2898070Militaries are bad, m’kay
>>2898080
>the people ™️
Also known as bureaucrat
I’m confused, do you want them to get slaughtered pointlessly like Christians, Alawites, and Druze?
>>2898146
You're stalinist but yellow btw
>>2898080
>After decades of revolutionary war let people rebuild and rest. Only people living in Kurdistan should have a say to continue war or not as its them bleeding on the front.
Even if those in Rojava wanted to fight doing so now would be pants on head retarded. Better to let the Syrian state lose legitimacy in the eyes of its people, for the honeymoon euphoria to ware off and other things catch the attention of it's sponsor nations.
FULL WAR FOREVER OR NOTHING anons are just misanthropic freaks, quite frankly.
>>2897097<First picBTW Wikipedia doesn't say that, OP either did a shop or went to wikipedia to edit it in for the purposes of making this thread.
Regardless, infoboxes are for literal retards, they are bait for non-serious editors with severe autism that even other non-serious and autistic wikipedians do not take seriously. They're for the kind of guys who 'like military history'.
Good riddance
>According to information we received from a source within the PYD, the Democratic Union Party (PYD) will hold its early congress in October and make fundamental changes within the party and its cadres.
>According to sources, preparations are currently underway for the congress. According to some theories, it may even change its name.
I just know when they do there will definitely be an OP on /leftypol/ to tell us all how over it is for Syrian Kurds.
>>2898162>FULL WAR FOREVER OR NOTHING anons are just misanthropic freaks, quite frankly.Practically speaking a lot of them also died during years of fighting so they might not be in a position to mount much of a resistance anyways.
>>2897807>It's goofy enough when people say that about China but the Russian Federation is literally run by mobsters.Yeah but the mobsters can make people go with it because it makes them feel like they're part of something big.
It is now de jure
>The commander of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces on Tuesday announced the official dissolution of the group, which once controlled a de facto autonomous zone in Syria’s northeast. >Speaking in a news conference at the presidential palace in Damascus, Mazloum Abdi said the SDF has completed a merger with the Syrian army and would cease to operate as an independent force. https://apnews.com/article/syrian-democratic-forces-dissolution-mazloum-abdi-1b7d210c96d2c608007b0411db25f453>>2897807if you go to some places or the youtube comments you find people praising mobsters all the time because they used to hand out a buck in the street, 'clean up' the place of crime, and hand out turkys at christmas.
by 'clean up' they mean shoot black people if they came into the neighbourhood.
its not that far fetched when state leaders do it.
>>2900432Mazlum Abdi said:
>"Mr. President, the families of our heroic martyrs, comrades in arms; the girls and boys of our country, the people of Syria:
>We stand before you today at a historic moment, turning an important page in the history of Syria and opening a new history whose title is peace, stability, and nation-building.
>Since the formation of the Syrian Democratic Forces, its fighters have played a major role in the most difficult phases that Syria has gone through. The fighters liberated many cities and towns in Syria, from the Baathist government to the ISIS terror.
>In these battles, our fighters paid a heavy price and sacrificed their lives. Thousands of martyrs died to ensure a safe future for the children of Syria.
>Today, the conditions have changed and the country has entered a new phase, the title of which is peace, partnership in building a new Syria. After reaching an agreement with President Al-Shera and completing the process of integrating our forces into the brigades of the Syrian army, we announce today the end of the SDF mission. We responsibly announce its dissolution as an independent military force.
>"We will carry the memories of our martyrs together and keep their sacrifices in our consciences; because they fought not because of war, but because of the day when Syrians will no longer need war. We want this day to be the beginning of a real change from battlefields to construction zones, from the era of weapons to the era of peace, from the stage of protecting Syria to the stage of building Syria."
>Regarding cultural rights and education in the Kurdish language, Ebdi said: "The right to learn in the Kurdish language is one of the important rights that our Kurdish people have been fighting for for decades. Mr. President has declared his support for this right on many occasions."
>"We have felt an open stance on the right to learn in one's mother tongue and to develop the current brotherhood in the future. We will implement this decision this year so that we can build on it in the near future."Newroz Ehmed, the YPJ commander is currently in meetings in Damascus so it looks like that issue will be resolved over the next few days and hte move to political sphere will be complete, for now at least. Curious to see how it pans out.
>>2900451>Mazlum AbdiImagine being that ugly bureaucrat and still having the gull to show your face but I suppose Kurds need a good lapdog to keep them in line
>>2897097So now AANES can't even have a NATO protectorate petrostate?
I like the "eternal war" cope because it implicitly acknowledges that Rojava/AANES/SDF utility ends with war, and keeping the war going was the only way NATO would allow them to keep the LARP going. And now Kissinger is coming to collect his due.
>>2897156>ethno-nationalism>marginalized minoritiesHe's saying this when the Assad government was Alawite, a minority.
>>2897289Russian nationalism is civilizational, not ethno-based like Kurdish or Ukrainian nationalism
On the topic of Rojava, here's an article by Troploin regarding the revolution called "Rojava: Reality & Rhetoric" published in 2015:
https://www.troploin.fr/node/83Either way, it is sad to see them go despite them not being socialist. I feel sad most for the martyrs who genuinely believed that Rojava was actually socialist or was moving towards socialism.
May it be a lesson for the socialist movement.
>>2897914What is the source on this?
Also it talks about the returns to Afrin and Serê Kaniyê which is good but 1) Kurds are now minorities in these regions due to ethnic cleansing and 2) the YPG has no force there whereas Afrin was its stronghold previously. They are also outside of this "Shadow Rojava" as you could put it.
>>2900627The returns are happening currently but there is a lot of problems, as in Afrin at least it is some of the most reactionary of the Damascus alliance that is holding these positions, moved their fighters into Kurdish homed, shootings and tensions have occured with the last returnees, ots of mass looting and destruction of the homes and crops from the reactionaries too, just out of spite.
>>2900590A religious minority but not an ethnic one. Ba'athism is an Arab ethnonationalist ideology.
>>2901302Yes, so we were right like we were saying all along, the dissolution will come with meetings in Damascus and an official announcement (two days ago), not from a cultural event in Qamishli.
24 news addiction is such an affliction.
>>2901295>>2901294Nevar forget these are the retards who went to Shengal to rescue the Yazidi but instead got into firefights with them before going home.
>>2901340
Why do Pakistanis hate kurds so much seriously one of them tried to stab someone at a demo we organised.
>>2901376They love Erdogan too much
>>2901386What is that even supposed to mean?
Have you really devolved so far you cannot form a coherent sentence?
Why do you retards have to come here and treat the site like your twitter feeds? Every day it feels more embarrassing that i share a website with you people.
Why don't Iran and Hezbollah launch an intervention to overthrow the Jolani regime and restore the Ba'ath to power in Syria?
>>2901831The Ba'ath Party itself accepted defeat and dissolved.
>>2901831Hezbollah is only capable of killing unarmed Shiite protesters
>>2897312>civilizational stateWe know it's you, Dugin
>>2901831They wouldn't restore the Ba'ath Party, they'd probably install some kind of Alawite supremacist org. Syria would be a theocracy, just a minoritarian Shia one.
>>2897166The Assad Regime was corrupt to the bone and was run by a brutal dictator. His own army wasn't even loyal enough to him to actually fight back. Hitler's infamous quote about the soviet union describes his regime perfectly "We have only to kick in the door, and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down" all this proves is Assad was not worth defending and needed someone more competent at the helm.
While compare that to Rojava and SDF who held out for more than a year and a half. Who had international volunteers fighting for them. They had socialization of the means of production. The people living there actually wanted to fight protect revolutionary gains.
>>2901954You can shit talk Assad without quoting Hitler, my guy.
>>2897505
This. They were dwarfed in strength compared to International Jihadism©. It would be a miracle that they could have captured the state
>>2901980
>kurds got thrown under the bus
I dont see single person who supported rojava thought the American support was permanent. Everyone knew the alliance was temporary for defeating a common emeny. Not to mention if you are going to make that argument Assad was thrown under the bus by the Russians.
>>2901959The quote perfectly describes Assads Regime.
is this the thread for apologising to OldBO?
You were right. I'm sorry.
>>2901954>held out for more than a year and a half>The people living there actually wanted to fightJolanistan kicked in the door this January and every single Arab east of the Euphrates (the majority population in the region and within the SDF militias itself) seized the opportunity to switch sides in 48 hours. The Assad regime and the SDF were quite similar in that regard.
>>2901980
>You got thrown under the bus by America within a year
The Russians did that to Assad though.
>which is why they were dumping portraits and flags and doing riots after Assad fell lmfao
Others like Kurds, Syriacs, etc stated loyal though. In Assad's case even Arabs didn't want to fight for him despite Ba'athism being an Arab ethnonationalist ideology.
>>2902187"Mazloum Abdi" is also an Arabic name lol
>>2902001>every single Arab east of the Euphrates (the majority population in the region and within the SDF militias itself) seized the opportunity to switch sides in 48 hours.Thats not true lmao. It was the Arabtribes who switched, not a bunch of individual initiatives.
>>2901982Americans didn't even support Rojava, it's just a retard talking point. America supported the SDF in the anti ISIS mission and literally nothing else.
>>2902072>The Russians did that to Assad though.How do you figure
>>2901954>blablabla "pro democracy" GWOT editorializingPoint stands though:
Rojava was a failure. And the root of the problem was being predicated on US/NATO support in exchange for guarding the oil.
Rojava was given a profitable petrostate, NATO sanction waivers and NATO military aid. Today, al-Nusra rules over them and NATO has rewarded Türkiye against Kurdish nationalism.
If there was a plan, it was a failure.
>>2902278>NATO has rewarded Türkiye against Kurdish nationalism.Kurdish nationalism seems stronger than ever. On the cusp of language rights across two countries, the peace process in Turkey.
Economically Syria is going nowhere good, Turkey too. Extracting the concessions they are attempting probably makes more sense than dying in a big bloody war when by any analysis the future is full of opportunities.
>>2902210Wasn't the SDF under the control of the YPG though? Like they wanted to create something with better branding because the U.S. was supporting a group of anarcho-Stalinist Kurdish weirdos who were definitely not at
all linked to the PKK which the Turkish government considers to be its #1 security threat.
Turkish troops likely to stay in Syria after SDF dissolution: analysthttps://www.turkishminute.com/2026/08/27/turkish-troops-likely-to-stay-in-syria-after-sdf-dissolution-analyst/
>Turkish troops are likely to remain in Syria after the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) announced its dissolution Tuesday, with their mission shifting from countering the group to supporting President Ahmed al-Sharaa’s government, an analyst told Turkish Minute.
>The SDF, the US-backed coalition that led the ground fight against the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) in Syria, dissolved as an independent force after its leadership said its fighters and civilian bodies had been brought under the Syrian state. Turkey considers the People’s Protection Units (YPG), the Kurdish force at the core of the SDF, an extension of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).
>Mustafa Enes Esen, a former Turkish diplomat and a researcher at the Brussels-based Institute for Diplomacy and Economy (InstituDE), said the SDF’s dissolution weakened Turkey’s original rationale for keeping troops in Syria but was unlikely to end the deployment.
>Turkey launched several cross-border operations against the SDF between 2016 and 2019, saying it sought to remove Kurdish armed groups from its border. The Turkish Parliament extended the military’s mandate in Iraq and Syria for three years in October 2025, citing threats from the PKK, ISIL and Kurdish groups in northern Syria.
>Turkey has largely secured its aims concerning the SDF, weakening the original counterterrorism rationale for keeping Turkish troops in Syria, Esen said. He nevertheless expected the deployment to continue because Ankara now seeks to support al-Sharaa as he consolidates state authority.
>The presence of Turkish troops could serve as an insurance policy against groups that might seek to destabilize the Damascus government, Esen said. Ankara and Damascus could also establish more military bases, although such steps would add to friction with Israel over Turkey’s role in Syria, according to Esen.
>“The Turkish army is therefore likely to remain in Syria, albeit with a different objective,” Esen said.
>Ankara says its troops will leave only after the security threats it faces have been removed.
>The extent of the SDF’s military integration remains disputed. Only 12,000 of about 35,000 SDF fighters had been integrated, while the status of the remaining 23,000 was unclear, Amy Austin Holmes, a research professor of international affairs at George Washington University, wrote, citing a SDF commander.
>The timing of the SDF move and the PKK’s decision in May 2025 to disband reflected the links between the groups and Washington’s approach to Kurdish armed movements in the region, Esen said.
>“This is not a coincidence, given the organic link between the SDF and the PKK, and the US position on the Kurdish issue as reflected in the statements of Tom Barrack,” Esen said.
>The US chose not to intervene to stop fighting between the Syrian army and the SDF at the start of the year, leaving the Kurdish-led force to accept terms that put its military and civilian structures under Damascus, Esen said. The January agreement came after government advances into SDF-held territory and provided for the transfer of border crossings, oil and gas sites and detention facilities holding ISIL prisoners.
>The SDF lost leverage after the United States signaled that it no longer enjoyed Washington’s protection, Rob Geist Pinfold, a lecturer in security studies at King’s College London, told Al Jazeera.
>US Ambassador to Turkey and Special Envoy for Syria and Iraq Tom Barrack had said in January that Syrian Kurds’ “greatest opportunity” lay in joining Syria’s new political order. He welcomed the SDF’s dissolution on Tuesday and described the outcome as “one army, one government, one state.”
>“Under US pressure, the SDF came to understand that the best future for the Kurds in Syria lay in political integration rather than armed conflict,” Esen said. The settlement includes recognition of some Kurdish cultural rights and a pledge concerning Kurdish-language education under al-Sharaa.
>Turkey’s process has so far centered on the PKK’s giving up of arms and legal relief. The PKK announced its dissolution after its jailed leader, Abdullah Öcalan, called on it to lay down its weapons and seek Kurdish rights through politics. The Turkish Parliament on August 10 passed the Law on Strengthening National Solidarity and Social Integration, which grants conditional legal relief to some PKK members but does not provide a general amnesty.
>“Language and cultural rights are not yet on the table,” Esen said of Turkey’s talks with the PKK, adding that such steps could follow but that the lack of public information about the talks made their direction hard to assess.
>Turkey was one of the regional winners from the change in Syria, Kamal Chomani, editor-in-chief of The Amargi and a doctoral candidate at Leipzig University, wrote in an analysis. The SDF agreement and Turkey’s peace process signals a shift away from armed struggle, according to Chomani, who argued that Ankara should respond by ending policies that deny Kurdish identity.
>Turkey’s military presence in northern Iraq could face more pressure if the PKK’s dissolution is verified and its armed presence ends, Esen said. Turkey maintains bases there and had regularly been conducting ground and air operations against the PKK up until the new initiative started in 2024, a presence that has long caused friction with Baghdad.
>Without the PKK threat, Ankara may find it harder to justify keeping troops in Iraq, Esen said. Turkey’s current parliamentary authorization for military operations in both Iraq and Syria runs until October 2028. >>2902382>>2902387yes, the name "Syrian Democratic Forces" was adopted after US Army General Raymond Thomas suggested that YPG should change their branding.
Prior to that they had an anti-ISIS alliance with some FSA groups called "Euphrates Volcano". These then became part of SDF.
>>2902212They withdrew their forces and left the SAA hollowed out, then refused to intervene when the rebels attacked from Idlib.
>>2902413Yeah, after Assad refused their offer to supply and train the SAA, stopped paying his officers, and tried to reconcile with nato.
>>2902387Yes. The point i am making was that american aid was very specific military aid and even then only for the anti-ISIS mission, trying to claim anything else like above is a weird revisionism.
>>2902400>Prior to that they had an anti-ISIS alliance with some FSA groups called "Euphrates Volcano". There was also National Coordination Committee for Democratic Change (NCC) was played a big role as a precursor, iirc.
>yes, the name "Syrian Democratic Forces" was adopted after US Army General Raymond Thomas suggested that YPG should change their branding.Thomas likes to say this, and maybe it is true, but i have never read it in any publication that wasn't quoting him directly and it always felt suspicious to me purely on account of being so self-aggrandizing and how often he seemed to repeat it.
>>2902471During the offensive of earlier in the year it got so bad that even Barzani and his gang felt the need to shut down AJ and some of the other Arab channels due to the levels of racially motivated and dehumanizing coverage.
>>2902471
Are Arabs embarrassed that hundreds of millions of them were defeated by 10 million Israelis? I'd think that would do a number on the region's masculinity especially because the chosen ones aren't exactly known for being tough guys.
>>2902413They did intervene and did air strikes as usual. However this can only work if the army on the ground they intervene for is willing to fight.
>>2902497It's a Palestinian song, too, "where are the millions?"
An issue with the "hundreds of millions" stuff is that it doesn't really account for geography. Like how do you deploy the forces in an organized way. In Israel's wars they were often able to achieve local superiority including in numbers in '48 iirc. Like it's not just having manpower but being able to organize it and field it in a structure that can withstand shocks.
Jews don't have a reputation of being tough guys but they are among the most ruthless people in reality. As a religion they are also more praxis-oriented than next-life concerned. Also they have embraced science / technology and modern industries while also having a kind of tribal collectivity.
zionist on zionist violence
>>2902856Zionist doesn't mean 'thing i don't like', anon.
>>2901831Anon they did that for 14 years and lost
>>2902497In 1948 Israeli soldiers outnumbered Arabs 4-1 with Arabs being bunch of British controlled puppet states and Arabs still made great strides before their rulers pulled back their leash. In 1973 Egypt and Syria steamrolled Israel before burgers sent them their cutting edge arsenal out of fear of nukes going off.
Keep coping timmycel
>>2902582If it hadn't been a charade and Iran had kept firing missiles during the 12-day-war or, before the current ceasefire they could have razed Tel Aviv.
They could have filled their later missiles with clusters of bomblets instead of MIRVs or filled the old stock they sent to deplete interceptors with with same and made a bloodbath of any city. And no Jewish toughness, no amount of ruthlessness, nor any depth of bunker would have saved the inhabitants in either case.
The whole of the middle east oil industry isn't in flames for reasons other than "toughness", and if any of the parties were to press the red button as it were, no traits of character would stop the missiles either I think.
>>2903021>they could have razed Tel Aviv …. nor any depth of bunker would have saved the inhabitants in either caseI doubt it. That's a big metropolitan area. And hardened shelters are actually quite effective at protecting people from cluster munitions, which are not very big. Cluster munitions are good for destroying aircraft on the ground and infantry operating in the open without cover from overhead. What kills people no matter what are direct impacts from big high-explosive warheads.
>>2911422Arab tribes murdered a former SDF soldier who is now a part of the state regiments. The arab tribes are now mobilising saying they didndu nuffin and they are under attack by the meanie kurds. Likewise there has been mass outrage in Rojava.
Unique IPs: 71