I have been brainwashed by rightist propaganda into believing that human ethnicities or "races" have differing skills a capabilities because of biological factors
I'm tired of my mind being clouded by hateful intrusive thoughts
Please help deprogram me
Please show me the light and please tell me which books or articles I should read that shows there isn't a "superior race"
Please
136 posts and 25 image replies omitted.>>2904778an exit from people who couldn't invent the wheel is much more easier then turning them into regular first worlders
>>2904786We have the tech right now that help select embryo by autism score, if we do that do does less bright people, in a couple of generations they will converge to the bright people, and even if we continuing selecting we could make a race of genius, no need to genocide or other abhorrent ideas, we can help them with modern day tech we have.
>>2904790literally impossible to do en mass
>>2904797It is possible, just have free embryo selection clinics as so people can use them without let this tech just he used by rich people to make super babies.
>>2904797*impossible to do with our current financial system which has slowed the progress of productive forces and even deindustrialized the economy
corrected it for you liberal
if nietzsche wasnt retarded he would have been a communist
>>2904790you're talking about domesticating human beings into racing horses and show dogs. instead of a wild genotype with a broad diverse set of attributes dictated by the random chaos of the universe and the process of natural selection which favors general survivability and adaptability, you want a domesticated genotype with a narrow uniform set of attributes dictated by the political/intellectual/economic elite which favors obedience and usefulness at performing specific jobs or fulfilling specific roles for an owner or operator.
maybe you see nothing wrong with this because you've been wired like a good obedient company man your entire life, but believe it or not you're just one person and just because you are content with debasing yourself and selling yourself short and being a subhuman tool doesn't mean that the billions of other people have to be okay with it.
i suspect that you probably see yourself as an intellectual and the development of your personal ideology is probably following the usual arc of paternalistic liberal elitism gradually metastasizing into authoritarian fascist elitism as your patience for having to live in a world that you cannot control or rule or understand begins to run out, sort of like a spoiled child who becomes increasingly belligerent and irate every time they don't get exactly what they want. the good news is, you are not alone, not by a long shot. the bad news is, you and others like you are never going to get what you want because even if you manage to sell everyone in the world on your ideas, you're never going to change the mind of the aforementioned random chaotic universe which will inevitably undo everything you manage to accomplish.
How is this the top thread rn? Any reasonable person would just ignore this bait, you guys are such idiots
>>2904866racist retard now wokescolding HAHAHAHAH. you will be put into a labor camp
>>2904870i'm already in a labor camp, it's called "the world", you will soon be sent there to work as well when your parents die or run out of money or get sick of taking care of you
>>2904866Let me ask you this: Would you prefer that "random chaos of the universe" dictate the life of people? Should we give birth to people that WILL suffer because you simplify don't like to mess with nature's odd and probability? You sound like a ludist afraid of technology.
>>2904778btw what has been established in this thread was that we have looked at the genes and have found no actual differences so the thread simply has no factual basis for it
>>2904877no no no you dont understand little brother. we will develop the productive forces to the point where everyone will only have to work 1 hour a day, but you specifically will be forced to work 12
>>2904883*no differences that would actually predict anything rather
>>2899246There is a superior race but you are not a part of it.
>>2904881>Would you prefer that "random chaos of the universe" dictate the life of people?yes i would. i would sooner fall victim to the spatially/temporally broad and uniform and indiscriminate chaos of general existence than to a highly concentrated and volatile and novel distillation of it that hundreds of thousands of years of accumulated experience and biological adaptation could never have prepared me for. i would sooner suffer a drought or a famine or the planet freezing over than have to suffer one insane egomaniacal trillionaire with a lot of zany ideas about how to re-invent the world.
>>2904964And yet you use a computer. Curious.
>>2904964Yeah, bro, sure as hell you prefer to die of famine instead of just using the last tech gadget, because tue tech is evil or something.
Man, sometimes I wonder if I'm talking to a edge teen or a actual adult.
>>2904883>everyone will only have to work 1 hour a day, but you specifically will be forced to work 12good. have fun sitting on your ass getting fatter and weaker and stupider by the minute while i get stronger and smarter and meaner, let's see if your clever little robot toys can protect you forever from horde of vengeful bloodthirsty remorseless psychopaths who aren't afraid of pain or death and will patiently wait decades for one tiny little slip-up or tunnel through hundreds of feet of concrete with a rusty spoon just to get to you and your lovely family.
>>2904978>>2904980yeah that's right keep strawmanning, it's all you've got.
>>2904985>have fun sitting on your ass getting fatter and weaker and stupiderwhy do you assume we wouldnt use biotechnology to improve our biological fitness beyond human boundaries while you toil away mining coal in the middle of nowhere? you will have a bomb placed inside your skull so the moment you think anything retarded your head will explode too
see that is the thing. you can only think small because your mind is small
>>2904989>why do you assume we wouldnt use biotechnology to improve our biological fitness beyond human boundaries while you toil away mining coal in the middle of nowhere?because no matter how sophisticated your technology is, the laws of thermodynamics cannot be circumvented. the body must expend its own energy and strain and overload its own muscles to become stronger, same goes for the mind which must expend its own energy forging and reforging neural pathways to become stronger. there can be no shortcuts for this, those baby einstein tapes and electric muscle stimulators and oscillating rubber belt machines from the 1940s are all quackery, that scene in the matrix where they rebuild neo's atrophied muscles with electric acupuncture needles was just sci-fi movie magic. also, if your amazing utopian society has the technology to regenerate and revitalize the body and create immortal superhuman demigods, then why would it be reliant on coal and slave labor for its energy needs?
>>2904839impossible to do en mass
regardless of financial system
>>2904964>i would sooner suffer a drought or a famine or the planet freezing over than have to suffer one insane egomaniacal trillionaireThere are more than 2 options dude.
>>2905041>there can be no shortcuts for thisExcept easily available anabolic steroids.
>>2905115nope. your mind is limited because you take liberalism for granted. china can easily build entire cities and high speed railways with a snap of the finger meanwhile it takes the west years to even do road maintenance because the latter is in perpetual civilizational decay
>>2905147gorillas are highly active nomadic animals and spend their days trekking through miles and miles of wilderness to forage enough stems and leaves and fruit to feed their enormous bodies and gathering materials and building new sleeping nests every day and warring with rival tribes for territory and seeking and fighting over mates and protecting their young from predators and being continually displaced by human encroachment and are sexually active year-round and do not hibernate. a species doesn't just suddenly evolve into a 500 pound hulking mass of solid muscle for no reason.
>>2902512>Whether or not you find it more commonly in said ethnic groups is the point you should have tried to make, but even then, it's not safe to say it's the reason "Africans do sport good", and doesn't then lead to the greater jump of arguing cognitive differences because it sounds like a nice "just so" story.My point is that when genes that relate to a general higher improved performance among black people, are discovered, they are loudly and proudly shouted about, but somehow magically, there is no difference between human ethnicities despite gene distribution being noticeably different.
>and doesn't then lead to the greater jump of arguing cognitive differences because it sounds like a nice "just so" story.Again, the point I will always make, humans are animals, there have been human ethnicities literally isolated for tens of thousands of years, there is no logical reason why intelligence or behaviour would not be affected by different genes and hormone distribution like they are in literally every other species of animal. But of course, you, like most Geneticists, rely on anthropocentrism as cope.
I accept 19th century race science is bullshit, I even accept the concept of large bloc races being bullshit, but I do there there are genuinely differences both physically and behaviourally, at a general level, between ethnicities even if those differences may be small or varied within the population itself.
>>2905157>a species doesn't just suddenly evolve into a 500 pound hulking mass of solid muscle for no reasondoesnt matter. we will be the ones guiding evolution while you will stay gay and retarded, forever
>>2905157also even a domesticated gorilla will rip your face off hahahaha what is this cope?
>>2904778The Piraha people are the happiest people in the world, and it's probable they wouldn't test as being too intelligent, by industrial society standards anyway. We would be idiots by their standards. Moreover, smart people tend to be better at exploiting others, a world of "smart people" would be hell.
>>2905428>also even a domesticated gorilla will rip your face offyeah i learned that the hard way when i was fucking your mother
>My point is that when genes that relate to a general higher improved performance among black people, are discovered,
They weren't, and even stretching it in the way that you want to, it wasn't even in regards to black americans.
>they are loudly and proudly shouted about,
If you don't at all understand that the media is sensationalist about discoveries they don't fully understand and has a racist undercurrent to it, after being on this board presumably this long, I don't know what to tell you. "Blacks are good at X because of Y gene" is an old trope that people lean into the confirmation of because it's a satisfactory narrative that denies all historical context or nuance.
>but somehow magically, there is no difference between human ethnicities despite gene distribution being noticeably different.
Read what I said before, because you obviously didn't.
>Again, the point I will always make, humans are animals, there have been human ethnicities literally isolated for tens of thousands of years, there is no logical reason why intelligence or behaviour would not be affected by different genes and hormone distribution like they are in literally every other species of animal. But of course, you, like most Geneticists, rely on anthropocentrism as cope.
<You, and the people who have done the work, rely on cope, while I who knows nothing about the subject outside of memes and halfchan posts is our collective bastion of scientific integrity.
Fuuuuk off you prick. "Just so" stories are not proof of a thing being the case, nor is "but it should be". Humans, relative to other creatures, haven't even been that isolated, our chemistry has been extremely fluid, and even then we've gone through some relatively extreme bottlenecks (the most significant that happened to our earliest ancestors lasting around 100,000 years) with the later ones closer to the emergence of homo sapiens making us even more closely related to each other.
>I accept 19th century race science is bullshit, I even accept the concept of large bloc races being bullshit, but I do there there are genuinely differences both physically and behaviourally, at a general level, between ethnicities even if those differences may be small or varied within the population itself.
I've discussed at length the differences physically that can arise by ancestry (not to say absolutely), but there's no proof or basis for the existence of significant or notable behavioral differences at a general level between groups of "differing" ancestries. Even what you're saying betrays itself, because if it's significantly vaired enough within all populations, it makes no sense to then draw from that the idea that there is a general behavioral consensus within a population that is genetic. And if you want to continue to believe otherwise and that there should be because it "just should be" without any evidence or proof, I've got a bundle of internally consistent religions to sell you.
Remember children Boas and other Jewish antrhopolgois Have you believe Evolution stops at the neck! Lmao
>>2911163>archeologists want you to believe that ancient humans couldve just built these massive pyramids LMAObasically the same level of arrogance when speaking about a subject you havent read about
>>2911170Boas lied about Morton’s skull collections
Was his name Morton? Idk doesn’t matter
The truth is boas lied when they re audited the skull collections they had at Princeton
That’s all you need to know
>>2911172just another gotcha that means shitall
>>2911173Your entire philosophy is based on Jewish obfuscation of basic measurements does that give you pause at all. Let’s set aside the fact that outside of their egalitarian veneer Jews are deeply supremacist in private even they don’t believe the bullshit they are selling you
Honestly I can understand why you believe in communism it’s a nice dream to chase universal equality but I will never understand how you deny such basic self evident truth as racial differences in cognition and physical traits so blindly while claiming to be atheist materialists the amount of mental gymnastics are mind blowing
>>2911179jew derangement syndrome. so every scientist is a jew because they dont agree with you?
>>2911180No, not every scientist. Just the majority of the ones that tried to discredit classical physical anthropology through blatant lies.
>>2911182basically the entire field has moved on from scientific racism. youre like a flat earther
>>2911185Due to political pressure after the post war new order. You are the one who is a flat earther/yec in this case. Cognitive differences between the races measured via psychometric testing is probably one of the most reproducible experiments of modern psychology if not the most reproducible.
You are the ones denying evolution to not hurt browns and black feelings.
>>2911187political pressure, when your theory was the mainstream one and thus held all the power…
>>2911191Nazis and white supremacy lost in 1945 last I check regrettably
>>2911196and might makes right last i checked so maybe that means aryanoids are inferior cucks
>>2911187I agree with the whole cognitive difference thing, but why can't you agree that cognitive differences change? You appealing to materialism selectively is very fake and gay.
>>2911211?
independent of how the Chinese were “viewed” Chinese and other East Asians have scored on par or even above whites in psychometric testing since literally the beginning
I don’t see where you’re going with this, the science never lied about the Asians regardless of what the vulgar masses though of China as a nation state
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