/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Read the German Ideology

All ideology is the same whether racist, "anti-racist", etc. The most important thing is to understand their social roots rather than examine them abstractly. Without knowing what lies at the base of the superstructure one is blind to the social forces driving history, it's exactly why imperialism, racism, sexism, exist and will continue to exist under our social order despite all the "progressives" efforts to "fight" them.

Relish the soberness of knowing that you don't need to disprove silly skulls shapes and autism scores for racism to magically dissappear, no more than you need to rationally disprove religion for it to die over night. These are symptoms, the disease is capital, the antidote is world revolution.

>>2899246
I would argue this is the wrong approach.

Human ethnicities are differently abled. How much of that depends on biology versus culture is not known, but it's not unreasonable to suppose that even slight genetic variations might translate to variations in ability. The alternative is to think these have no effect, contrary to evolutionary theory.

But that doesn't justify hierarchy. It's a common confusion of the Right that when leftists speak about "equality" they mean "sameness." The former is really just the concept of incomparableness. We understand not to place an apple above an orange: they're different but one is not "better" than the other as a fruit. So for human beings the same idea is that anyone who is a productive, pro-social member of society should be entitled to the same things from society. It is not innate ability that determines this, but one's desire to employ that ability to make their community a better place.

>>2899246
I'm just full of clittycel rage.

>>2899278

What's the "average negro"? I interact with black people and white people commonly and don't see this. The average American can hardly string together a sentence.

>The world's inhabited by elves, dwarfs, orcs, dragonkin (aka furries) and yes even kobolds
Okay, and this changes anything why?

>human ethnicities or "races" have differing skills a capabilities because of biological factors
Why wouldn't they? In both cases, a presumption is made a priori, rather than letting reality decide. Begin with reality, then proceed.
>hateful intrusive thoughts
You can notice something without being hateful. If we took the example of skill and capacity, ought I hate a disabled person for lacking the same abilities as someone else, or would I be charitable?
>superior race
Why would differences lead to superior and inferior qualities, and not simply different qualities with different measures? The natural division of labour means that some creatures are better or worse than others at different things. Natural fitness is about "fitting in", not dominating.

>>2899420
>>2899267
You're a race realist hilterite schizoid

>>2899423
That's only the mods and their clique. Lurkers are alright.

>>2899428
I ain't clicking dat

qrd?

>>2899432
Now I feel bad for reporting your post

Fuck jannies and their high wages

>>2899246
FACT: human beings are all one species, we have 99.9% genetic homogeneity
FACT: the 0.1% disparity accounts for mostly superficial genetic traits, like hair, eye, and skin color
FACT: race as a concept was developed by slave drivers who wanted to justify their business by denigrating the slaves as less than human and meant to be chattel
FACT: racism, eugenics, and the classical romanticism that surrounded it all are NOT scientifically sound principles
FACT: it's okay to have a preference for some superficial genetic traits over others, but it's vain to judge people on aesthetics alone
FACT: racism is used as the basis for nationalism, which is the basis for fascism
OPINION: fascism is just totalitarian rule by one single dolt whose underlings think is some really swell guy, and it's a dumbass ideology because no one person has all the answers to anything (except me I'm a genius)

if you are asking this sincerely then you've already begun the work of deprogramming yourself of racial pseudoscience, but i suppose a good place to start would be to look at the greater overarching pseudoscience of biological determinism which these kinds of ideas fall under. scientific racism, eugenics, intelligence and autism score, etc. basically the whole idea that genes are some sort of source code or blueprint that defines an organism's properties and behaviors is reductive simplistic bullshit. an organism's properties and behaviors are determined by literally everything that happens or has ever happened in nature, so many factors that one could not even begin to unravel the knot, and the genes are just a residue, a fingerprint leftover after the fact. and you could go even further by realizing that these kinds of theories that try to reduce incomprehensible complexities of the natural world into simple deterministic mechanical explanations that fit neatly into the human mind do not come from a place of genuine scientific curiosity, but from ego and vanity. if science has taught us anything, it is that the way the natural world actually works is completely and utterly alien to ordinary human cognition, i.e. the so-called "common sense" that we rely on in our everyday lives to do our familiar human activities, and that the universe is under no obligation whatsoever to be intuitive to our reasoning or to be aligned with our beliefs and ambitions or to even exhibit any coherent pattern where it repeats what exists in one part in any other part.

>>2899267
This is my take. It's copium that different ethnicities don't have different abilities and outcomes. You even see Genetic researchers have to rely on unscientific cope for the obvious reality of genes. I find it funny though they openly admit GALNT13 gene makes various African ethnicities vastly superior at sport, but the whole host of genes relating to various other indicators in ethnicities, have zero outcome difference whatsoever because ???.
Over 10% of the DNA in various PNG ethnicities isn't even Homo Sapien, does that no effect them in any way? Australian Aboriginals literally existed in isolation before cro magnon even existed. There is larger genetic diversity between humans, than there is between a chihuahua and wolves.
Different ethnicities obviously have different outcomes that are beyond just cultural, the point should be is that people are just good at different things, and you shouldn't structure it into a hierarchy.

>>2899246
Contrarian take: Read Richard Hanania.
Like you, he believed in racial autism score differences until one day he sat down and noticed that many of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet are white Republicans. The difference in skills and capabilities between individuals is far more noteworthy than that between races, and you can group people by any methodology you like. (e.g. the autism score gap between the poorly educated and highly educated is going to obliterate any racial gap you care to find.)

Even if you cannot shake the racial part of your worldview, incorporate this one insight from bourgeois economics: comparative advantage and opportunity cost.
Let's say, for argument's sake, that the right's vision of a race-stratified world is correct. The implications of this in a world of comparative advantage are nightmarish for an ethnically homogenous country like Japan: A nation of 120 autism score geniuses where most of them are condemned to menial work well within the capabilities of someone with sub-100 autism score, because such people are not allowed to live there.
If such people could live there, both those people and the native Japanese would enjoy a much higher standard of living. (The low autism score people would benefit from good governance and higher wages, the high autism score people would benefit from working more stimulating and rewarding jobs.)
Instead of thinking in terms of "higher" and "lower" races you should appreciate that everyone is still basically a normal person capable of making a useful contribution to society. You don't need a 120IQ convenience store worker, and being a convenience store worker when you wanted to - and are capable of - being a scientist, is miserable! The thing Japan gives up (e.g. the opportunity cost of) maintaining ethnic homogeneity is a Japan with many more Japanese in high-skilled work.

(This, incidentally, is why competition in Japanese school etc is so hellish: a functioning society needs a lot of "unskilled" labour and automating it isn't as viable as you'd think, so a lot of people capable of doing high-skilled work have to compete aggressively for a small number of places.)

check out "the mismeasure of man" by stephen gould

>>2899458
Heredity is strongly correlated in offspring and relatives.
Genes are a large determining factor in human beings.
>>2899471
>he believed in racial autism score
You are falsely using past tense.
Hanania still believes in group differences for I.Q.
>difference in skills and capabilities between individuals is far more noteworthy than that between races
"Race" is an assigned grouping. When you invoke "white Republicans", this is another group. Group differences in I.Q. have different averages based on samples.
>Instead of thinking in terms of "higher" and "lower" races you should appreciate that everyone is still basically a normal person capable of making a useful contribution to society
This is just the division of labour. Nothing in nature is evil, just put in its wrong place. Put everything in its proper order and you see virtue. Also, on Japan in particular, they have autarky in their schools, and so lack the need for janitors and other positions. I think that the division of labour can be overextended and so become unhealthy. This is why a general education is necessary alongside the vocational. It's wrong to imagine that a "could" ought to unconditionally become a "should", as some liberals imagine. It's best where work is done independently.

>>2899471
Isnt new-Hanania's whole deal that racial differences and genetic hierarchies is real but it's the left-lib, white libs in particular, that are at the top of the pyramid?

being hateful about these differences, if they even exist, is stupid. scientific racism has always been a libertarian project. rushton, murray, lynn, etc are all right libertarians who pushed this stuff as an alternative explanation for global inequality and as an argument for why we should not have affirmative action. before that, you had scientific racism rise as a means for justifying colonization and slavery

of course if you think about it logically and not like an anti-social freak, it would become obvious that if a certain group of people really were genetically less intelligent than the rest of the population, that would, at the very least be a positive argument for welfare, affirmative action, and more funding towards schools in areas where these groups are the most represented. another policy that this would suggest would be to reindustrialize western nations as such work requires less "intelligence" (i could go into a whole different rant about how capitalism transcendentally restructures our very understanding of intelligence but i shall refrain from that)

examining it closely, the content of race realism barely affirms the conclusions many race realists and later white nationalists wont to make. it does not even make an argument against miscegenation as at the end of the day people tend to assortively mate based off of intelligence and most people tend to date people within their own group

aside from all of this there is an unforgivable pessimism within race realist and eugenicist thought as it reifies man's current technological inabilities into some sort of God. it attempts to positively affirm a fundamental alienation of the social aims of man from Nature. instead of waging divine struggle upon the biological foundations of our existence, these ideologies are used as a means to arrogantly rise some against others as well as justify the sickness of capitalism, itself a diremption within the resonating whole of productive relations

when north america gets conquered by sanguine socialism, all groups of people will have the opportunity to improve their healthiness and cognition through nootropics, live dna modification with rna sprays and viral payloads, as well as morphological manipulation with biotechnology. biological determinism, the final alienation of man from Nature, shall be abolished in the name of hidweh

btw last time i checked there is no evidence when actually looking at polygenic scores of a black-white achievement gap
https://r.jordan.im/download/racism/bird2021.pdf