>Bye, bye, Microsoft! – editionhttps://www.zdnet.com/article/china-drops-windows-for-linux/The Chinese question is: how does a comfy non-imperialist nation transform itself into a global socialist model that can be reproduced and adopted by the rest of the world, without either reproducing the aggressive and counter-productive policies of the USSR or appearing toothless, while resolving the contradictions of the so-called first world FOR THEM and liberating them from capitalist domination, therefore using the empire's collapse to accelerate material conditions to enable the global revolution?
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>>2832385 401 posts and 66 image replies omitted.>>2940740日本并未“将中国带出落后”，相反日本几乎摧毁了英美等资本主义国家客观上带给中国的所有进步成果而用更为落后和野蛮的东西代替了他们。
日本唯一做到的就是无耻的掠夺和暴行塑造了中国的国族认同。
>>2940748The greatest mind of Chinese Marxism says that Socialism is Bismarckian welfare?
You need to read more Marx. Communism is beyond your current understanding.
>>2940740当日本发动入侵ROC的战争时列宁已经死了7年了，即按更早的日本人在中国东北制造恐怖袭击刺杀了当时的中国国家元首–张作霖大元帅开始计算,列宁也已经去世4年
>>2940751>>2940748All true but Mao literally said the Japanese invasion was necessary to break and humiliate and grind down the KMT such that half of it was willing to go with Soon Qing Ling and join the PLA in the regime change operation. Students were far too mean to her and Deng Xiaoping’s son during the GCPR, but without him in a wheelchair, China wouldn’t have made a lot of gains for its disabled demographic. Progress is an ugly, traumatic thing often.
>>2940754我从来没说俾斯麦式的福利是社会主义，我用的词是“最基本的劳动福利”，（看起来你没接受过良好的教育导致你连机翻的英文都看不懂），因为德国人起码还当个人，而日本人完全连人都不是
>>2940757Communism has literally NOTHING to do with liberal human rights, any of that trash. Marxism is not liberalism. You are distorting Marxism. Japan was a beacon of progression in the truest Marxist sense.
>>2940757That’s because Chinese are lighter skinned than Namibians, who were the first colonized population to endure Holocaust style death camps (I refuse to acknowledge Boer “oppression”)
>>2940756because the anti japs war made chinese saw how chiang kai-shek folish and useless
>>2940758I can’t wait for Childhood’s End by Arthur C Clarke to be real so I can hear your excuses for them
>>2940758那我只能希望日本人去你的国家实现他们的“进步了”
>>2940760And in the end, that was necessary for the whole people to come over to Mao’s side or at least be apathetic about Chiang’s permanent tropical vacation
>>2940762The good news is this is impossible for Japan to ever repeat as they are all either geriatric, suicidal, or geriatrically suicidal
I don’t get drinking beer out the big plastic bag, I like Snow and I like Tsingtao, but surely a can or a bottle would both keep the beer cold as you’re walking down the street and be easier to dispose of and recycle, no?
>>2940763但日本试图给中国和朝鲜半岛带来更反动的生产关系和政治制度也是事实
>>2940770Along with the rest of the pacific, Thailand included though it’s technically on the Enemy State’s list at the UN. It’s really bullshit because France was also an Axis Power for most of the war after suffering an invasion.
>>2940768因为大塑料袋便宜，而且可回收，这种材料很容易做成聚酯纤维或者尿袋（装颜色差不多的液体）
同样溶积的啤酒喝完之后带着塑料袋回商店比拉小推车运玻璃瓶轻松
>>2940772Fair enough, you can’t really recycle a can after crushing it, at least not at the recycling machines at the grocery stores that give you small amounts of money for doing so
>>2940770The Chinese really fail to understand Marxism… this is why they had to be led by the Japanese.
The Japanese-imposed Kabo reforms was objectively historically progressive. This is a fact if you accept Marxism, but it seems the Chinese don't know what Marxism is, very sad, oh so sad!
"Reactionary" means more than "international law", "rules-based order", "open society institutions", etc.
Japan simply wanted the unfolding of the historical dialectic, and was brave enough to ignore the nonsense of liberal "international law", "human rights", "democracy", and other trash to that end. And the Chinese resent them to this day for this, make it make sense!
Zhukov: "We have liberated Europe, but they will never forgive us for it."
(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST) >>2940763>>2940778>>2940778日本当时实行的是普鲁士式的军国主义和德意志第二帝国的二元君主立宪制，而日本人来到中国后广泛和本地的地主、封建势力合作如果你觉得扶植封建势力都不算反动那你赢了
是什么让你觉得你比一个靠物理学和政治学成绩考上大学的中国人更懂唯物史观？
>>2940784So this is the star-pupil of Chinese Marxist education! Oh how lamentable, truly sorrowful! This state of affairs is most unfortunate indeed.
>>2940788Do you have anything in your heart besides smugness and a desire to put a baby through a bayonet?
>>2940784I’m not the guy calling Imperial Japan progressive in a direct sense, at best you can say they accidentally created progress through incompetence and exposing the KMT as unworthy to rule
>>2940789You are distorting Marxism with moralism.
>>2940788中国有句古话“夏虫不可语冰，井蛙不可语海”，意思是夏天的虫子不知道什么是冬天，你不能和他们讨论冰块；生活在井底的青蛙不知道大海是什么，你不能和他们谈论海浪。
它告诉我们不要在和愚蠢的人争论对错上浪费口舌，你这种目光短浅、愚蠢且狂妄自大的家伙是朽木无法被雕琢成器物和艺术品。我懒得再与你争辩
>>2940797If Marxism endorses the activities of Unit 731 then I am a full, proud, open anti marxist.
>Ok so Mao Mao'd, right? Then Deng Deng'd….Hhhow do we move from there?
Idk bro, do I look like Mao or Deng? Mao and Deng were geniuses, I'm just an average commie prole.
>We kill the CPC, then revive them into immortal beings via Juche necromancy…which just struck again the other day so the mojo is still fresh.
Maybe we're in over our heads here?
>>2940813Please put down the drugs, you’ve clearly gone too far with them
>>2940778>The Japanese-imposed Kabo reforms was objectively historically progressive. This is a fact if you accept Marxism,true
>Japan simply wanted the unfolding of the historical dialectic, and was brave enough to ignore the nonsense of liberal "international law", "human rights", "democracy",>this is why they had to be led by the Japanese.incoherent determinist spookbabble
What's some essential /CHINA/ books to read as so to help understand today's China?
>>2940788your prose isn't subtle enough to not come off like you actually believe
>>2940384 but are instead being hyperbolic to make a point
>>2934838i'd be more convinced of this earnest 3 moves ahead shit if stalin didn't let his entire airforce be destroyed on the ground day fucking one of the invasion because he thought Adolf Hitler would keep to his word
>>2940886Red Sorghum
The Republic of Wine
The Three Body Problem series
Dream of the Red Chamber
>>2940886just reading chinese language journals like lausan, chuang and qiao can give you a wider range of perspectives than most sinology or huning-esque a chud's guide shit
>>2940886das kapital by karl marx
Was it widely remarked in 2023 that the PRC had lasted longer than the USSR? 74 years. 1917+74=1991 … 1949+74=2023.
>>2940196good thing I already gave a quality answer here and you can safely ignore the inferior reply:
<weren't they famously very isolationist, anti-trade, and not very adventurous with their boats? even today they seem to be occupied by the burger navy more than doing anything of any naval significance on their own. their most ambitious naval attack was suicide bombing burgers in hawaii lol >>2940989fuck you and your slop
>>2941056NTA but do it by hand, you'll take 6 hours + 3 breaks to eat, I used to colorize B&W photos for fun back in the 00s
>>2941099If you don't paint it in oil canvas its a slop
>>2941040ACP's bumpkin nonsense. Chairman Mao holds an extremely important position in the minds of Chinese people (especially the elderly who lived through that era). Apart from the right-wing bastards in the gutters and Chiang Kai-shek's sex slaves.
>>2941040Mbappe didn't even name Mao, they just assumed it to be Mao rather than Chiang Kai-shek, Yuan Shikai, really any number of Chinese dictators.
>>2941140burgerville raped itself and sloughed off its own culture for greater scams and higher profits. The great satantic burger was founded on financial scams and continues to be the longest running one in human history.
>>2940797>implying marxism is amoralread the anti-duhring
>>2936286>implying marx supported imperialismhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1857/01/23.htmwe have a guy that learned marxism through tweets going out of his way to belittle maybe the only chinese poster we have with this nonsense. the mods here have reached new levels of incompetency
>>2940889red sorghum sucks
its fiction romanticizing the landlords, warlords, and bandits of the 1930s. only had brief domestic popularity because it hated the japanese more than the KMT and CPC, but was overwhlemingly one of those 1980-1990s anti communist books that got shilled in the west.
>>2940886Id start with Fanshen, Red Star Over China, and Louise Strong's writings on china to grasp the 30-40s as a base.
tbh coming and seeing it yourself would impart more wisdom about the current china than any book I can think of
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