>Bye, bye, Microsoft! – editionhttps://www.zdnet.com/article/china-drops-windows-for-linux/The Chinese question is: how does a comfy non-imperialist nation transform itself into a global socialist model that can be reproduced and adopted by the rest of the world, without either reproducing the aggressive and counter-productive policies of the USSR or appearing toothless, while resolving the contradictions of the so-called first world FOR THEM and liberating them from capitalist domination, therefore using the empire's collapse to accelerate material conditions to enable the global revolution?
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>>2832385 78 posts and 16 image replies omitted.>>2910921i'm so sorry but it sounds like she's saying
>injuns in my faggotry >>2910795Why not show the chinese state media stating this
>>2910945because it never happened
>>2910944u r forgiben, my son
>>2912248>socialism is when povertyThis is why nobody takes you seriously
>>2912248We fight for bread but we fight for roses too
>>2903941that looks terrifying
they handle them as if they were objects
>>2912251he is referring to capitalist owned luxury apartments in the video, not government owned rent free apartments
>>2912253socialism is when hedgehodges are in control
>>2912257>capitalist owned??? Do you think that specialists-stakhanovites shouldn't be rewarded for their hard labor?
I want to love China but there's two non-negotiables they fail:
- I can't run my mouth. I can sit here and call the leader of my country a lying sack of shit in public and nothing will happen to me; not in China. I simply cannot trust any leader who bans criticism of himself.
- Porn is banned. I'm too much of a gooner, this is simply a non-starter.
>>2912405You get around those with a VPN, just don’t be too harsh or deliberately draw attention to yourself
>>2912405> I can't run my mouth. I can sit here and call the leader of my country a lying sack of shit in public and nothing will happen to me; not in China. I simply cannot trust any leader who bans criticism of himself.There are things you cannot criticize in the West. If you say them you will be punished harsher then anything you can say in China.
> Porn is banned. I'm too much of a gooner, this is simply a non-starter.Stop gooning so much. Don't do it so much it rots your brain like this.
>>2912405>Porn is banned. I'm too much of a gooner, this is simply a non-starter.Dawg chinese people are giga-gooners. Don't treat the literal text on the legal papers as what's actually the content of the society.
>>2912413You can goon in china, just do it inside of someone’s holes in private consensually, the party doesn’t give a fuck
>>2912405Why do you want to bad mouth Xi? You can bad mouth Trump in China just as well as in USA, be happy with that
>>2912416Of course, but that other anon has rotted his brain with so much pornography he didn't realise this. The anti-porn legislation in China is for the good of the people including both the women exploited by this industry and men who suffer porn addiction.
You don't need a capitalist porn industry or anyone else to get off. You can create a picture yourself with pencil and paper, fantasize about it, and get off. So you could even get excited in a prison with nothing and the situation in China isn't even that bad. There is still plenty of ways to get porn. The only reason this would even be a fucking issue is if you have serious brain rot from a porn addiction.
>>2912413That's not really true. The West is designed to give people the illusion of having political agency. You can scream into the void as much as you want, nothing changes anyway. It nevertheless is a red flag if you don't even offer people that illusion but shut down dissent completely and force people to act like they approve.
>>2912405Whats bad about banning porn unironically? Porn industry as a whole should be banned.
>>2912419It's not even about whether I want to or not, it's the fact that I can't even if I change my mind. If he decides to do something I think is catastrophically stupid, it doesn't matter - I still can't criticise him. The law presumes he is infallible - or, rather, prioritises making him appear infallible.
>>2912421There’s a billion people in China, by law of large numbers you’re gonna find someone up for casual sex and I’m sure WeChat has an okcupid/tinder style dating function for this
The development of industrial capitalism simplified class antagonisms. Where before there were many classes, afterwards there were only two: the proletariat and the bourgeoisie. However, the development of information technology has complicated the class system. From the development of information technnology has emerged a new social class: the giga-gooners.
With the emergence of giga-gooners capitalism has created an entire class in the developed countries with no revolutionary potential. Ask a giga-gooner to give up everything and set up a base camp in the mountains and they will cry: "where is my smut?"
>>29124592 is debatable but 1 is not. 1 is the opposite, it's the leader going me me me.
I just don’t like Chinese aesthetics
>>2912428China has tiered council system ala Soviets, you air your grievances to your representative, if there are enough people like you, who also air their grievances to their representatives, all the representatives air your and their grievances up and up and up. Xi can be dismissed from his position by national congress, there is a law about this, and national congress consists of representatives of lower level councils.
>>2912428There's mechanisms for internal criticism
You, a bourgeois brained liberal, just think that democracy consists in spreading counterrevolutionary propaganda thru the media in a "marketplace of ideas"
That's not criticism, that's rabble rousing
Xi status?
>>2912488then don't live in China.
>>2912421There is no such thing as "porn addiction"
It is simply incel guys only way of coping
Give all these "porn addicts" a chance to be with any real woman and they will drop porn in a heartbeat
>>2913382I knew a guy who was tall, hung, married to a hot chick, had kids with her, and still watched a lot of porn and even paid for it. I think he qualified as addicted to it.
>>2913384>HungHow do you know this lmao
>>2913382Women do not replace porn. Do you stop watching cooking channels after cooking and eating?
>>2912253never saw a pig farm award
>>29133822 rights 1 wrong
>>2913385his wife told everyone whether they wanted to hear it or not
>>2912253watch dominion lol
>>2912253Animals are objects and should be treated as such
>>2913575People are animals
Animal should be treated as objects
Therefore people should be treated as objects
>>2913575>>2913621jackie treehorn treats objects like women, man
>>2912253Chinese people are notoriously inconsiderate of animal welfare
>>2913645People in Asia in general aren't know for welfare of animals, the idea of welfare of animal is a western thing, being more frank I considered people who mistreat animals as barbarian and inferiors.
>>2913652I think its also relative.
For example, Indians venerate cows, while we eat them.
Arabs like cats, but hate dogs, and so on.
From the time of Aesop's Fables, to Francis of Assissi, to Grimm's Fairy Tales, Walt Disney and the Furry movement, I do see a particular veneration of animals in general by Westerners. White women are especially fond of treating animals better than fellow human beings, which can also be rather exclusive. For example, Hitler was a fan of animals, and a vegetarian, while also valuing animals over fellow men.
>>2913658almost everyone who "treats animals better than humans" only does it with some select animals, like domestic dogs. I also find it very tiresome when people go "you know who else was a vegetarian? that's right. Hitler." yes and I'm sure Hitler also understood that 1+1=2, but I'm not going to reject the equation on that basis alone.
The real thing is to treat both animals and humans without cruelty, which is needless. It is entirely possible to defend yourself and acquire food without needless cruelty.
>>2912703Only in theory. They would never dare actually try to do it - even suggesting the idea to try to gather support would get you locked up on sedition charges or something. He is a dictator, there is no fudging around it.
>>2912704I can already tell you use the ML definition democracy, which isn't democracy (don't even bother - no, I will not accept it). It's just a rhetorical cover for absolute power by whoever is in charge, that's it. You can dress it up however you want, it's not democracy.
>>2913670not the anon, but if all societies are objectively class dictatorships, then there is no real ideal "democracy" in the bourgeois sense of the word where you have this multiparty pluralistic society where all classes have an equal say, that's absurd. some classes always have more power than others, that's what makes them classes in the first place. so the conventional definition of democracy where the bourgeoisie and proletariat have an equal say is silly. if you have reservations about the "ML definition" of things then say what the alternative is. how do you create a society where the working class, the majority, all have a say in governance without creating the "too many cooks in one kitchen" problem?
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