LET ME SEE YOUR WAR LIPS YOU BLOODY WANKERS! https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cmn0jke547r5o
<If the UK suddenly found itself at war, would you know what to do? Do you know what would be expected of you?
>The government wants us all to start preparing for severe disruption to our lives. It wants us to stockpile canned food and drinking water, strengthen our civic resilience, and plan for the possibility of war.
>Work has begun on the government's so-called "war book", which hasn't been updated in decades.
>The UK's most senior soldier has sounded the alarm. The Chief of the Defence Staff Sir Richard Knighton this week said the threat from Russia meant Britain was living through the "most dangerous" period of his 35-year career in the armed forces.
>But what is the threat? In 1940 the danger of a German invasion of the UK was very real. But the chances of Russian tanks rolling up Whitehall are surely negligible.
>"It's not the tanks you need to worry about," says historian Margaret MacMillan, author of War: How Conflict Shaped Us.
>"It's the cutting of cables on the ocean floor. It's the hacking into systems on which so many things depend. The possibility for asymmetric war, for cyber war, is growing by leaps and bounds."
>But are we ready? After 80 years without war on our own soil, are we, as a society, psychologically prepared for it? Are we ready to approve large increases in defence spending, and for the sacrifices that that might entail in other areas of our national life? Or does the threat seem too far-fetched to be real? Leninhat threatened me in Croydon
They do realize they’ll need BAME soldiers if they want to have even close to the manpower needed for war right?
>>2917112I am not one of those "White people are just objectively worse" liberals but there is something to be said that the average provincial Briton (and I specifically include Scots in this, Welsh I am not too sure I feel this may be true for South Wales but not North) essentially has no concept of civic life. Thorough suburbanisation along with an inverse population pyramid has essentially killed any public culture that wasn't perpetuated by deep rooted tradition (think Abbotts Bromley and its stag dancing). Rural communities made up of a plethora of different kinds of farmers, agricultural labourers, and supporting industries are extinct in Britain. What that leaves are villages mostly full of those with intergenerational wealth or urban emigres who hate anything public and live entirely within the walls of their homes (which is also a part of the death of the pub). In contrast, most 21st century migrants come from places with active street culture (especially thinking of the arab world/MENA here) which fundamentally makes them more personable. The ones who aren't are usually lumpenised and quasi-organised into gangs (which the racialists will never admit is in essence a mirror of their white counterparts, something that has a long tradition in britain including the street gangs of the victorian era, the razor gangs of the interwar period, and the "Drugs" of the 1970s) and do make the public realm hostile. However in comparison you get the rest of everyone else. Any youth who wants to live in a thriving society moves to the cities today, so you get working class and middle class civic culture in London, Manchester, Bristol, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle, Birmingham, Glasgow, Cardiff, Edinburgh etc. This is in essence a personality/psychological brain drain where those who want to build and preserve a public realm are pushed to urban areas and what is left behind are parochials who are fundamentally asocial. There is no real way to "fix" this essentially, it is a vicious cycle that would require social engineering that the british state isn't competent enough to do to fix.
>>2917069Questions a bit late to be asking after announcing we produce drones for Ukraine to strike deep into Russia with, knowing that often results in civilian casualties.
>>2917172North South divide is fake. Just fucking northerners loving to whinge about how they believe they have it worse than everyone else.
>>2917177No, no.
It's certainly true that there is a class and cultural difference between the North and South of England. This is not just Thatcher-era rubbish.
>>2917178This image doesn't show a clear north-south divide.
>>2917179The Midlands and up are considered as approaching the North (e.g. Birmingham typically being the middle-ground between each), and in the most Northern parts (East/West), we see the most deprivation.
do you think if there is a war we will get footage of lefty pollers being droned to death in some random empty field in eastern europe?
or have all of leftypol escaped to south america and thailand by now
>>2917182Is scotland not in the north? Is Wales not in the south?
Also the SW bit hides a lot. I have spoken time and time again how parts of Bristol constantly ranks some of the worst measures on poverty and mobility related issues in the country.
Northerners are obsessed with spitting on you and telling you how much worse the rain is up there. I really despise it.
>>2917191North/South refers to England
In Scotland you also have the Highlands and Lowlands
>>2917201>He's not a true Sheeran!Some serious blood feuds happening here.
>>2917184The hyperwar is not happening and in the first place Russia can't deal with Ukraine. Going to war with all of Europe would be suicidal for them and European governments don't want it either. The militarization shit is being shilled because they want an excuse to securitize society through mass surveillance and stamp out dissent to another 1000 years of liberal fascism with technocratic characteristics.
>>2917200It's kind of weird what's happening to Ed Sheeran, I mean I know he's a zionist, but people keep "denouncing" Ed Sheeran or "supporting" Macklemore without ever mentioning Palestine or Israel a single time. He's pretty much a PR opportunity to launder OTHER zionists and if his own family is putting him under is because it's timely, holy shit it's so fucked how little Palestine matters, and also Ed Sheeran's family is every bit as ghoulish as Ed Sheeran himself.
>>2917201>upper class wanker is a wanker and everyone who knows him irl hates himcommon trope among the upper class, you dont get into the 100's of millions without some serious personality malfunction
>>2917191Scotland isnt the 'north', the cutsoff at the border.
Scotlands deprivation is more city and town based with the highlands being composed of either extremely poor or extremely rich, very little inbetween.
>>2917262At least mackrellmore gave his monies from the tour to Palestinian organization and tells his fans none of that nonsense matters. so fair enough.
>>2917172Sorry but this is mostly wrong. There is no real "white flight" in England (it couldnt exist in Scotland or Wales). What you do have in England is a upward mobility of working classes moving to New Towns (Stevenage, Epping, Kettering etc.) and a middle class outfilling from the cities (which is largely from the metropoles to commuter towns). The former is all but ended but occured when the working class was hegemonically white (tho sectarian and ethnically diverse; catholic irish, askhenazi jews, plenty of slavs & eastern europeans who later assimiliated). The latter is an ongoing process but is also "colourblind"; plenty of middle class blacks and certainly asians are moving to hertfordshire from London.
Also you are wrong the North does have a strong culture of hospitality; something that is being degraded by southern migration to the northern metropoles. Ask anyone in Manchester and they will tell you how people used to talk on the buses but don't anymore.
>>2917262Also the bad thing wasnt "Ed Sheeran being a zionist" it was a zionist billaionaire censoring Macklemore. Sheeran was a lackey.
>>2917359so you're saying zio-ed is just a dog of the zionists?
>>2917164I basically agree but would also caveat that pre-collapse rural life was also terrible in its own way.
We have - but are moving to reverse - the only policy the state is capable of implementing to ameliorate the situation, mass access to higher education. Give someone unfortunate to be born in one of those areas a token sum to move to a city. The minute they've dipped their toe in the water of something better, moving back becomes unthinkable. Then you just let demography do the work.
>>2917177It's very real and Scotland is an obvious illustration of how. Scotland and Northern England are broadly similar demographically, with most differences disfavouring Scotland, yet Scotland generally gets better results per-head than northern England because it has been given a modicum of autonomy through devolution.
There's been a long-running distaste in southern England for the north. The industrial revolution briefly tipped the balance the wrong way, but pretty much every major state initiative has been designed to reverse the trend: the postwar centralisation of the railways so that instead of regional companies everywhere you've got 4 big firms headquartered in London, then nationalisation after WW2 - again, headquartering the lot in London - then Thatcher's smashing of local councils, privatisation of firms to rent-seekers all based in London, and so on.
(And I say London here metonymically, but I'm not just London bashing: London, after all, lost
their council under Thatcher. What you should resent is not "the South", but centralisation in general.)
https://tomforth.co.uk/whynorthenglandispoor/ >Without this constraint, Thatcher could destroy all government power outside of South East England. She did just that. Michael Heseltine, the Minister who made so much of the destruction happen, describes it as the greatest regret of his political career and he has spent much of his life trying, with some success, to undo the damage he executed.>The Metropolitan counties were abolished, fragmenting Northern cities into powerless chunks. Buses in those powerless chunks, one of the last remaining local services, were privatised. The Northern cities (London was treated differently for underlying reasons which should be obvious if you’ve read this far) were banned from interfering in public transport in any way. The Mechanics Institutes which the North had built largely in the face of a ban on Northern universities and which had evolved into Polytechnics and Technical Colleges were removed from local control and have since been run down to shadows of their former selves. Right-to-buy forced local governments to sell social housing, among their largest asset bases and a stable source of income, to tenants at well below market rates and give a portion of the proceeds to the central government. Powers of local governments to raise taxes were substantially removed>While Thatcher promoted the market and competition for the private sector, she created a central monopoly on the power of government. Northern cities did not privatise their remaining services because Thatcher won the argument for liberalism. Northern cities privatised their remaining services because their leaders would go to jail and Thatcher would do it for them if they refused to. The last flicker of the Northern power that the industrial revolution had created was stamped out.>"You can just do things" is an emerging meme in the pro-growth community, but since Thatcher that has been largely untrue in North England. Most of the time, someone from central government will block you, if you succeed they will try and stop you, and if you continue succeeding they will subsidise your competitors.>Britain’s equivalents of Detroit (Birmingham), Chicago (Manchester and Liverpool), and Pittsburgh (Sheffield) have not been able to bounce back from deindustrialisation in anything like the same way. They have nowhere near the same powers. Alternatives to Austin, Miami, or Phoenix similarly have no chance of emerging, lest they pose a competition to South East England. We cannot just do things.>Scotland could see what was happening. It had signed up to be part of a United Kingdom, not complete rule from London. Support for independence rose from below 15% to over 40% under Thatcher. Tony Blair’s devolution to Scotland brought that back down and freed Scotland up to outperform North England, but the return of the Conservatives to power and the huge centralisation of government within England over the last fifteen years has pushed support for Scottish independence back up to a majority view among the working age of Scotland.+
https://tomforth.co.uk/unreasonablesuccess/ on Scottish devolution.
and for the record, I think the majority of Scottish governments have been duds. It's not like they're super-competent and everyone else is shit, they're just actually vaguely close to the people they govern!Though Scotland, too, has that most British of diseases, love of centralisation… this time in Edinburgh. Reminder communists should refuse to fight in any stupid wars our government might try to conscript us for.
Unless it's a proletarian war against imperialism & colonialism or total class war I'm staying at home.
That said, a period of enforced mass conscription and the shipping off of British soldiers to foreign lands would however be the prime time to take action against the state.
>>2917356>No white flightMiddle class Britons leaving the UK is part of the White flight
>Southern hospitalityI was referring to the American South
>>2917393Most "patriots" call the king a Muslim these days
>>2917384i wish there were more anti-war neoliberals. if you just total up the economic cost, in cash terms, even perhaps excluding the value of human life and focusing only on the destruction of capital investment, war is still one of the most grotesquely stupid things we engage in.
the case is in some practical ways stronger (or at least more stubborn) than the anti-imperialist one, since one can always rationalise why this particular war is actually cool and leftist (and people will be paid overtime to do so in the event a war actually breaks out - incidentally, MI5, i'll take your money to do so if you let me. this is an open application for the job.) but you cannot do the same with a monetary argument. it does not matter which country is in the right if you can do the maths and realise either would do better to immediately capitulate, since even naked inefficient looting by foreign occupiers would be less costly than blowing the whole place up. there is nothing any government wants that is worth burning down a factory for, let alone dying for.
but pacifism appeals to bleeding hearts and neoliberalism to sociopaths, so this never happens :( >>2917614bourgeois gays need to be gulaged
>>2917680Well technically he was for a little bit.
>>2917392>Middle class Britons leaving the UK is part of the White flightMiddle Class brits don't leave britain though, they move to the countryside. Working class britons leave britain (for Spain, Australia) which is more down to purchasing power (a taxi driver can afford to retire at 55 in Spain but not in London).
>>2917614The actual story is really funny. He was with this escort on a coke bender and started getting paranoid the escort was going through his computer and spying on him for the paparazzi and chased him down the street naked, as far as i remember.
>>2917700>He was with this escort on a coke bender and started getting paranoid the escort was going through his computer and spying on him for the paparazzi and chased him down the street naked, as far as i remember.Yes but the thing he specifically went to prison for was that after chasing down the the Norwegian male prostitute he'd been doing coke with, he kidnapped him, tied him to a radiator, and whipped him with a metal chain to try to force him to confess he was actually a secret paparazzi spy.
You WILL rent the flat above a shop
You WILL cut your hair and get a job
You WILL live like the common people
Why tf is everyone so expensive?
Why tf am i paying best part of 2 quid for a 250g block of butter?
why tf is olive oil almost a tenner now?
>>2917899Come on, it's really fucking funny tho.
>>2917802It is really odd that the only non-captured England party is the center-right free market party, you'd think it would be labour or the greens. Is it due to them being unconditional Eurocrats?
But then again i remember Theresa May also being quite progressive on the question, and even pre-grift Liz Truss (rip). May was also the last half competent PM for other reasons.
>>2918125straight's closed
>>2917135Ofc it’s AI because most recruits will be zoomers, and we all know zoomers will do anything short of sexual prostitution to get free housing, a decent education, access to above-average healthcare, and a humane wage.
>>2917364That’s an interesting contrast to the more decentralised Germany and the better-designed Netherlands.
For example, Berlin is Germany’s capitol and most populous city and even then its far less populous than London. Likewise, the UK is far more car-centric and its urbanism is less developed than that of the Netherlands. And this extends to the German economy as not every major company is HQ’ed in Berlin, many are located in Hamburg with their own decentralised supply chains located across the country.
As for London, are you even surprised? That metropolis might as well be its own country considering how much it differs from the rest of the UK. The gap is comparable to the socioeconomic one between Dubai and the rest of west Asia, which doables as Dubai is one of the financial centres of the world, cosmopolitan and is basically a striver capitol city.
Besides the City of London being a self-governing entity for centuries to the point that even the London assembly has no jurisdiction over it, London seems to be like a Norman camp meant to cajole in Anglos and other imperial subjects, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that London was founded OG as an ancient Roman military settlement and still retains those traits, down to having its own police force.
>>2918147You're optimistic if you imagine the government would offer such incentives for recruits.
>>2918132My ad hoc theory is that it's because they're the only party not motivated by spite and resentment at an emotional level, being sort of nice genteel middle class types playing at politics, so transphobia has nothing to offer them emotionally (where as Tories/Reform are nothing but nastiness and Labour is run by people who can only orgasm if it upsets a left winger), but this is only a partial explanation since plenty of similar types catch the ambient malice going around. At an overly rational level perhaps they're trying to triangulate tactical Green votes without losing Cameron/May type "I don't care if you're gay just give me money" selfish Tories alienated by the new Tory policy of burning down all civilisation just to annoy the libs.
>>2918181The money part makes sense since the LibDems are completely reliant on members’ donations for the party finances.
On the other hand: Does anyone have any coherent explanation as to why John Cleese, Richard Dawkins, Carl Benjamin, Graham Linehan, and other older shitlibs just chud out completely?
Particular mention goes to Cleese who used to support Amnesty International before Islamophobic brainrot got to the best of him to the point of becoming a Restore Britain founder. Same with Dawkins going from “I support gay rights and mild pedophilia isn’t as bad as bad pedophilia” to just go full TERF.
Either it’s a personality disorder, old age making them more chauvinistic (especially given their class status) or just that the exclusivist worldview of British liberals is being under siege as China and other powers are undermining the liberal idealism that forms much of the British intelligentsia’s ideology. And let’s be honest here: The entirety of British philosophical tradition in modern times is just a bunch of bourgeois cunts endlessly reconstructing 19th century liberalism to cope with the fact that their beloved British empire has ended.
And this can make sense when taken into account that both Dawkins and Cleese among other old shitlibs were born in elite circles back when Britain was still a massive empire.
So their chudding out and their distaste for Islam going from mindful critique to full-blown civilisational sneering can be seen as part of the larger reactionary balding over the fact that the UK is turning into an irrelevant backwater of northwest Europe regardless of immigration, racial homogeneity, religion, and ofc trans rights.
>>2918133Prices were going up beforehand
though.
It's the farmers, i know it. They're up to something as usual.
https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/09/danny-tommo-could-face-serious-jail-time-after-channel-knife-stunt/If convicted criminal and paramilitary thug “Danny Tommo” doesn’t get arrested for this, we can only take away two conclusions:
- The case itself is flimsy
- Danny is a glowie or glowie asset
>>2918576the state will always seek to provide cover for far right terror when it furthers the aims of the upper class
>>2919031He's right but should still go die
>>2917681Not long enough clearly if he's still making light of it.
>>2919031Jacob has truly humiliated himself in these latest few videos.
First he suggests sending out the cannon fodder.
Then he pretends that England has always been a tolerant land of freedom.
Luckily, the idea that having a posh voice makes you intelligent only really works on Americans, not British people (or "British passport holders", as Rees-Mogg would prefer to categorise the residents of Airstrip 1. We are all British subjects now; not freeborn citizens).
>government announces an anti-disinformation unit but promises it won't be used against domestic dissent and sadly probably means it, or at least won't use it against the right
>Farage says they're going to use it against him anyway
is it really so much to ask for Labour to be the party Farage is going to accuse them of being anyway.
(yes, tragically)
>>2919043maybe, but if reform were proscribed we could go back to the lab-con duopoly moderated by liberals which has served everyone
who matters to labour MPs anyway so well for so long. the next biggest threat would be what, plaid? (on paper maybe the SNP, but their internal problems are huge.)
i'm not sure Labour's so cynical. maybe the right combo of stupid and cynical, but if they were cynical then Labour governments would have lots of right-to-buy type policies: e.g. policies that use state money and assets to create hoardes of Labour voters, just as Thatcher created new Tories. Yet even where Labour have blundered into this (mass access to higher education, for example) they both hate it, and try to alienate those voters, and propose to scrap the policy. it's like they hate winning.
>>2919041Has Labour always been so, how to put it, compliant and effete? Or is it a modern developement?
Pretty much any left of center party, even cucked ones the PS in France post-Mitterand have some sort of will to rule and crush the ennemy when they have power, you know what i mean? Labour seem to only have vitality when it's time to repress their base on the behalf of foreign/parasitic entities (Israelis, terfs etc). How is a center-right middle class eurocrat party like LibDem more masculine in their approach than them is a mistery.
British Greens are also included in that cuck-left entity by the way.
Green party membership are going to hold a vote at conference on whether zionism should be classified as a type of racism
If it passes then members can be disciplined or expelled for racism if they say or do anything pro-zionist
Polanski tried to cancel conference as a result claiming they should "focus on the upcoming by-election" in Starmer's constituency
But he was overuled by membership so it should still go ahead afaik?
Will be interesting to see how that vote and the debate pans out
>>2919170They tried to vote on this previously and the Zionists filibustered the conference to ensure they couldn't, so let's see if it goes differently this time
>>2918576DT is almost certainly a glowie he was released early from prison then suddenly sets up a group which data harvests the street right. Thing is I think the UK gov is Protopopov'ing itself.
Government is contemplating scrapping the TV license fee and replacing it with a £11 per month internet licence fee you'd be required to have to access the world wide web.
Crazy shit…
I'm seriously considering leaving this country. There are blackshirts marching around, setting everything on fire, beating up minorities, committing crime 24/7 and its just…crickets. The media and police appear to support them and the government are actually fucking terrified of them. And "the people" don't seem especially worried as long as Netflix still works… At least Americans fought and died protesting ICE, and they were state backed militia, we can't even do that against a bunch of drunk hooligans.
I think this country is actually done for. I haven't seen anything about this country during this period that shows its up to challenging the assault of the far-right. The NHS is now held hostage by palantir, "immigrant" is now codeword for "second class citizen". Its just a long spiral downwards toward oblivion. At least Americans have seen the light on Trump.
Wild things are happening in Scotland. Today's proposal: merge all councils into 6 strategic authorities that handle all the relevant stuff currently done by 32 councils (education, bins, etc) with 150 odd parish council tier local bodies beneath them (that piss about putting plaques on buildings etc)
Particularly funny given that the geographically massive Highland council area being the lowest level of local government is already the go to example of just how centralised the UK is.
The underlying reason is that Sturgeon fucked up negotiations for how Scottish funding would work after the devolution of income tax and now Scotland is punished for every year it grows slower than London, which has been basically every year in Scottish history. This was known but she didn't want to appear as though she was looking a gift horse in the mouth, she just wanted her photo op, as always. This means Scotland will require big unavoidable spending cuts going forward.>>2919301If you can, you should
Kemi Badenoch has said if the Tories win power (LOL) they would ban those who claim benefits from purchasing alcohol, cigarettes, or gambling.
Would mean if you're unemployed or disabled the state would be constantly monitoring your bank accounts and and purchases, and if you buy yourself a beer then you'd get your bennies sanctioned, the more you buy booze and cigs the more sanctioned you'd be until ultimately you'd be denied any benefits at all.
So much for personal liberty and economic freedom…
>>2919321>milkshake suckEvery westerner is a bastard and mini hitler, from poor to rich, people should stop being surprised by this
>>2919327Scotland can beg Brussells to subsidise them instead of London.
>>2919301Log off twitter and your paranoia will be cured.
>>2919170Polanski thinks Corbyn is an antisemite, so no wonder he is hesitating on making Zionism.a punishable offence.
>>2919524Doesn't work. I remember working in a shop as a kid and taking milk tokens for anything.
>>2919574>Doesn't workThe purpose of a thing is what it does.
We see in the US how people are trading their food vouchers for 50 cents on the dollar, so that they can get cash for consumables rather than necessities. Think of it like a sin tax; we have plenty of those.
>>2919587If the french win jurisdiction over the case btw he will likely face life in prison.
>>2919585Thinking of it as a sin tax is silly, try thinking of it as nurturing a petit bourgeois mindset by literally turning you into an unprofitable small businessman.
>>2919623Where is the lack of profit?
If people really think that cutting their budget in half just so they can have cash, to pay for drugs or alcohol or whatever is better for them, then they're accruing personal profits in their own way. A sin tax thus allows you access to unnecessary goods, at a higher price.
>>2919719Loll this is like the shit H3H3 used to do with his coughing and retching gag
>>2919713>>29196166 months probation it is then!
>>2919719>im calling 1000 menmale bonny blue
>>2919787If he gets off he is objectively a state asset, one of those charges alone carries 20 years.
>>2919821yeah I mean they'd be proscribed in seconds if they arent assets
If Danny Tommo or Tommy Robinson ever got more than 6 months Shabana Mahmood would introduce the "Amnesty for Concerned Locals Act" that gives all fascists immunity from any protest laws and all pro-Palestine protesters 8 million years in prison and the media would hail it a masterclass in "protecting free speech".
Just saw Ash Sarkar on Question Time and it's definitely getting worse. H-E-A-V-Y!
>>2920041The difference in the arms!
>>2920041>This isn't normalPutting on weight? Aging? I can assure you that it is.
>>2920044I don't think we can simply write this off as "putting on weight"
>>2920041>people look bigger as they ageBruh staying thin after 30 is harder than in your 20s, especially if you’re genetically predisposed towards being on the bigger side
>>2920046Then what the fuck do you think it is lad
>>2920059What's the scientific term for a genetic predisposition to exponentially gain weight immediately upon getting married?
>>2920080>exponentiallyBruh if you think that’s obese you’ve never seen a real obese person
>>2920041Wasn't she on a "woke 1.0 was sooo awful and cringe! we're the non-woke left now!!!" book flogging tour on GB News etc the past month or so?
>>2920041She married a white man, so got too comfortable.
>>2920197>She married a white manMy guy needs to learn from his ancestors and implement a highly-localised Bengal famine in their kitchen.
>>2920215For enjoying an all you can eat brekkie at the all inclusive? How about no.
you have to go back /pol/ack. >>2919301Leftist uyghas got transsexuals being made actual second class citizens in their own country through top down measures and choose to hallucinate fanfictions in their head about nu-freikorps gunning down all BAME folx in Britain instead n#788
I will kill all of them
Lol Chris Bryant is letting the Orange Order do a march through a catholic area for reasons and it will lead to violence.
Good luck comrade
>>2920454>>2920465Why are you threatening the secretary of state for Northern Ireland with hammers?
>>2920454Footy hooligans shite will save Britian this time…
Hearing reports the CPB has dissolved the YCL
>>2920470Essentially he has jus given the prods the right to march through the middle of an irish town that the last time they did it there was 5 years of rioting and almost blew up the Good Friday Agreement.
>>2920500That isn't Tom Moffitt that's young bob.
Orange Order assaulted me at Greggs for being Catholic.
>>2920484Sorry so the CC of the YCL have only expelled more than half their members including their three largest branches (Lanakshire, Glasgow, and Edinburgh).
>>2920508Larper they dont have greggs in norn
Is the YCL still collapsing over their leadership being fanatical TERFs? Or is the more to it or something else that has also happened?
It's interesting how the Orange Order is allowed to get around the ban on uniforms by classifying themselves as a "Religious group".
>>2920518It was in Northern London.
>>2920530The YCL leadership was sadly gunned down by the Burnhamkorps and Georgina Andrews body was thrown in the river Thame.
>>2920530That's been long simmering but it honestly seems to be more over their general opposition to branch militancy/uniforms/black bloc demostration tactics etc. which clash with the CPBs primary aim of selling the Morning star and producing respectable trade unionists.
>>2920511Learning that Scotland is apparently a hive of YCL activity is the most embarrassing thing I've learned about Scotland in a while.
I suppose it makes sense: CPB is just shit labour and labour have been Scotland's reactionary party for at least 30 years, bleeding out all over the place and spilling their reactionary-british-nationalist-but-think-they're-red-clydeside creeps all over the floor.
>>2920531Any plans for tonight S poster?
>>2920577They can't talk they're driving to Holyhead to get the next ferry over to NI.
>>2920530>>2920561Essentially on the surface its about militancy but what it is really about is autonomy and democracy. YCL has no demcent since it has to follow the CPB-established line, which makes the org an appendage. It was the same when people left over trans rights: the issue wasn't the CPB being terfs per-se, it was that the CPB enforced their terfy as League policy.
>>2920540Comrade Georgina Andrews is the one doing the purging…
andy burnham if you're reading this you should proscribe the CPB as a terrorist organisation
think how much donald trump would love hearing that you have banned THE communist party of britain
that'd win over a reform voter or too, wouldn't it? come on mate. please please please let me get what i want.
>>2920577Just some writing and propaganda work. The next big date for me is the 15th when Charles Winsor is coming to Cardiff.
>>2920599>Just some writing and propaganda workYou're young! You should be going out on friday and enjoying yourself and having sex
>>2920600I don't drink and I hate clubbing! And I don't really like casual sex, but nobody wants a relationship they are all poly.
>>2920611What do you do for recreation?
>>2920504>That isn't Tom Moffitt that's young bob.That's his name, is it not?
What party was the one in the video posted here a while back that was aura farming all dressed in black and red in a tunnel with a younger woman standing in front giving a speech? Was that YCL or RCP?
>>2920779These are the ones who got kicked out btw.
>>2920946If they were worth a damn they'd have quit
>>2920779It was going so hard until the LENIN PARTEH WHY-SEE-EL
It's odd bc there's been some stuff posted about the situation in the YCL which indicates there are some former or current members posting, but then much is stuff is so laughably incorrect whoever said it must just be guessing
Being a NEET is praxis. Never Work. Do nothing.
Stay up all night drinking, smoking, watching anime, and playing video games.
Both the Situationists and Italian Autonomists attested to this as a valid method for resisting the bourgeois state and its institutions, which is desperate for you to toil 9 to 5 and accept capitalist society as normal so as to keep their systems running.
>>2921189Praxis for what?
>>2921286The heat death of the universe
>>2920800>>2921189I'm not pro-NEET, but it's funny to me how moralistic people get about it. People act like we're all really in it together working on some grand collective effort instead of atomized individuals in a "rat race" trying to "get ahead" and get one over on each other. The ultimate dream of life under capitalism is to not have to work anymore. How many people really have a job where they can say they are proud of what they're doing and making the world a better place? Most corporations and enterprises are probably actively making the world worse in fact.
>>2921310There are two adjacent sicknesses at play
- the LARPy left-wing one, which confuses the valorisation of workers with the valorisation of work.
- the more standard stodgy one, where one's job is imagined to form a key component of one's identity. which NEEThood must fracture.
i was thinking about this recently at work, reading some labour gobshite (starmer's speechwriter maybe?) on my phone at lunch. he was posting his labourist fantasies (he is a self-defined "labourist") and it struck me. there's this basic assumption that what we need is to get people as invested in being cleaners or social carers or shelf-stackers as they used to be in being miners or whatever, and it's just silly. there's nothing wrong with the direction we're drifting in (where you, say, do the tills at tesco but this is just something you have to do, like sleeping, and your identity is actually formed around your friends, hobbies, pretentious posts on /leftypol/, etc, the stuff you actually like doing.) and this no-no-no it's actually really important that you've got this job that you don't like approach is unlikely to satisfy anyone. we're just in an awkward transition period where we, perversely, become more individually liberated through
greater alienation from our labour.
i am basically optimistic if we can survive the next 40 years or so. if the old world doesn't kill us all out of spite, the new world will be basically fine. most changes are just changes, neither better nor worse.
>>2921341I actually kinda value "worth-ethic." Or respect it I should say. I think in a communist society, whatever work that needs to be done needs to be done, and people who do it should feel happy and happy to do it. I think the current insanity is because we obviously don't value work or workers. Eating shit with a smile is the humiliation. I'm a cynical lazy kind of person often myself, but I was working with this older dude, like 50s something, doing some decently hard physical labor, in the elements, and this guy wasn't really like my boss so to say, not getting paid much more than me and we're basically just partners, but he was like the lead, or the guy personally calling the shots because he knew everything that needed to be done. He was like a slave-driver. We were setting up these tests everywhere in the world, and sometimes, we needed to let the test just run for a few minutes, and I would just be standing around, taking a rest, and he'd get on my ass, like "what the fuck are you doing? you're on the clock, go clean up the car, go find something useful to do." But this old as guy, we would really take half of the main work each, plus he did a little more clicking the buttons on the machine and writing the numbers down, dealing with the boss, etc. and he would constantly fucking lap me on the two halves of the same physical work we were doing equally. It's just fucking shameful getting lapped by this old guy. And like I said, I'm cynical and lazy, it's fucking crazy right, the faster we work, the less money we make. This dude like I said was the one who dealt with the boss mostly, so he was the one getting shit and the disrespect, yet still he fucking worked like a motherfucker.
And anyway, off the long rambling, I think I came to an epiphany about work ethic, it's like your job is where most "proletarians" spend most of there waking hours at. It's kind of mentally fucked to spend most of your waking hours doing something your bad at lmao. There is pride at being good at what you do. The problem in our society is we don't value work or workers.
Check out this clip from this banned Australian documentary about the Soviet Union. I don't know if I trust this information, I've never heard it anywhere else, but it's crazy.
<13:00 in the vid>dock work is hard work so it has a high status in the soviet union high status usually means higher pay and nikolai earns up to 600 a month more than the captain of a ship or an executive in a factoryImagine if that was the case in our societies. Dock workers get paid more than executives. I guess very patriarchal. I mean, it's kinda like that already on the shit tier, most blue collar workers get paid more than most service industry workers, but more than an exec is crazy.
>>2921355I found this part of Lenin's speech interesting.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1921/oct/17.htmShall We Be Able To Work For Our Own Benefit?
>We had deserters from the army, and also from the labour front. We must say that in the past you worked for the benefit of the capitalists, of the exploiters, and of course you did not do your best. But now you are working for yourselves, for the workers’ and peasants’ state. Remember that the question at issue is whether we shall be able to work for ourselves, for if we cannot, I repeat, our Republic will perish. And we say, as we said in the army. that either those who want to cause our destruction must perish, or we must adopt the sternest disciplinary measures and thereby save our country—and our Republic will live.
>That is what our line must be, that is why (among other things) we need the New Economic Policy.
>Get down to business, all of you! You will have capitalists beside you, including foreign capitalists, concessionaires and leaseholders. They will squeeze profits out of you amounting to hundreds per cent; they will enrich themselves, operating alongside of you. Let them. Meanwhile you will learn from them the business of running the economy, and only when you do that will you be able to build up a communist republic. Since we must necessarily learn quickly, any slackness in this respect is a serious crime. And we must undergo this training, this severe, stern and sometimes even cruel training, because we have no other way out. >>2920955I can't tell what they meant by this at that party conference
>>2921367I mean, we know what time it is, these faggots spend millions a year on their security team that are allowed to carry automatic weapons and what not. The infamous Luigi incident showed how unprotected the ones even relatively high up the chain are.
My position is we are all legally in a position to execute these people. These people can all be executed legally. Even in countries that have outlawed execution.
I mean, I am a compassionate person. Recant to save your life.
What's all this about some RAF bases almost getting bombed?
>>2921376
Well I don't want to become involved in your whatever, but I think yes, people are afraid to express their hatred. I live in a country where people are executed. It's all a system of hoopla and subjective opinion. But people should be executed. It shouldn't be hard in a supposedly democratic society that executes people to execute most or all of these rich people.
>>2921378
Yeah sure bro but pitbulls will still be banned under communism. No one wants those homing mutt missiles biting off kids' arms.
>>2921367i've got to admit his yacht is actually in good taste. Did he commisioned it or was the previous owner the one with good taste?
>>2921397Under communism all dissidents will be forced to house a scary shitbull into their house actually.
They blocked the "parade" at Drumcree lmao what the fuck did they expect to happen.
>>2921433Bitch if you think any woman would be greatly displeased to have their husband forever immortalize them onto a yacht you're smoking crack.
>>2920779Actually bretty good. Better vibes than CPUSA that's for sure.
>>2921477rs21. For all of its faults its democratic and has a pluralist culture.
>>2921479That really hasn't been my experience, I've been in it for a few months now and I've found it to be stultifying, it's extremely badly organised but also hostile to any improvements, and everything has to be done through the prism of "good vibes" where it's extremely rude to not validate someone else's opinions. It also just seems politically confused and not sure what it is doing or why.
I don't know if I just have a personal problem or something, maybe I'm too autistic and I can never understand. Every group I try to be involved in, I always end up feeling alienated and cynical because it doesn't meet my expectations.
>>2921481Place your bets: Islamist or Nazi?
>>2921477The CPGB-ML is the only “left” organization in Britain worth taking seriously, assuming that by “left” you mean communist Marxist-Leninist. One of the very few self proclaimed communist orgs in the entire imperial core that’s actually Marxist Leninist and anti-revisionist and hasn’t surrendered itself to fascist idpol insanity
>>2921485So being a sexual minority is itself fascist? Their behavior indicates that’s their position
>>2921483Why would Nazis attack a US airbase in this country?
>>2921487They are putting rapefugees innit innit
>>2921485>CPGB-MLIf you want to work for the Russian Embassy just apply for a job there don't join the Brar Cult and get put on a list withouth direct monetary gain.
>>2921482I am sorry to hear that, I think it must vary based on which region you are in. I will agree it is badly organised but that is largely down to expanding rapidly without much direction (a lot of disaffected Marxists joined post-YORP). It does have a "nice" culture but that is also the only one that actually allows people to disagree on stances without getting purged.
>>2921491Even the Gallowayites kicked the CPGB-ML out for being weird cretins.
>>2921485When are you going to get sober and realize Marxism Leninism applies only to the semi feudal semi colonial nations? It has a zero percent success record anywhere that has more workers than peasants.
>>2921493I haven't been purged (yet) but I can tell that nobody likes me and nobody is really interested in my ideas.
I mean honestly the 'local' branch has been okay but they're not in the same city as me, so I don't really feel that connected to them, I try to use the national communication avenues but they're so hostile to actual substantive discussion.
I dunno I'm just in a bad mood I guess partially, I wanted to get involved in an org so I can actually contribute to socialism rather than be just a armchair commentator online, but I feel like all the orgs are messed up in some way. I also feel like I'll never be able to blend in with normal people anyway due to my autism/personality/etc. I try to be nice and friendly and whatever but I still end up on the outside.
>>2921485I just want an org where we are anti racist, not transphobic, etc, but also aren't weird SJWs about everything, why is that so hard to find? Do these radlibs actually like being in an environment where it feels like a work MS Teams where you can't actually say anything you think or you'll get fired or ostracised?
>>2921502>I haven't been purged (yet) but I can tell that nobody likes me and nobody is really interested in my ideas. You won't get purged from rs21 except for rape (which yk is why the organisation exists in the first place).
Trying to engage with rs21 nationally is mostly pointless because you said he doesn't really have a national basis in which it operates.
Which city are you in if that isn't a Dox? There may be some local groups I know of that are worth getting into.
>>2921490hey man that's russophobia
>>2921559Нууууууу я люблю русских(((
>>2921481sad they got caught, kill anglos
>>2921481In the past Welsh patriots attacked airforce bases. But this no longer happens…
>>2921448just wait until you see the bores they're subordinated to.
>>2921477none really is the answer. gun to my head i'd probably say RS21 or the prometheus lot but there's very little basis for that. RS21's stickers on lampposts don't annoy me and prometheus seemed alright for gossip on your party.
i will go to bat for the idpol ones over the conservative ones any day of the week, but we'd lose less than nothing if they were all shut down.
if you'd let me include them, i'd back the Greens, SNP, Plaid, or (and here you're going to need another gun to my head) Labour. these organisations are not great, they are not really advancing anything either, but they do
sort of have a point. they do get politicians elected and argue for policies in ways people will actually hear and all that sort of thing, which means when you go to have some low-level meeting followed by pints it can feel like something more than circlejerking.
but this is a POSWID analysis, rather than a moral endorsement of electoralism or whatever. the purpose of the major parties is what they do - play politics - and the purpose of the microparty cults is what they do - twitter drama and boomer posting.
>>2921482in general, irl, it's nice to validate other people's opinions even with a vagueposting "yeah".
but fundamentally i don't think you're going to find validation in any of our left-wing orgs. they're all pointless.
>>2921485they're a cult which achieves nothing and contorts themselves in weird ways to back George Galloway
but i will give them this: their conservatism is at least funny. give me "the reactionary nightmare of gender fluiditiy", 10,000 words of incoherent rambling with revealing lines how women and ethnic minorities aren't interested in the party, over the CPB's "under the sewell convention and the scotland act 1998, and in line with the ruling of the supreme court, it is sound british law that: fuck transhumanists. we call on all sides to observe THE LAW, and deplore the Scottish government for having erred IN LAW."
>>2921502i don't mean this in a bad way, but you should find other hobbies. you shouldn't feel guilty in any way about just having a laugh with it. the progress of socialism is a gigantic societal-scale force and it's entirely acceptable for your contribution to it to be "has the word socialism in his bio while posting deltarune fan theories" or whatever else tickles your fancy.
(others will disagree, but their contribution to socialism is arguing on leftypol, so…)
>>2921503if you want a cynical answer: it's because it serves as a mechanism to exclude a different kind of bad person.
i don't like controlling what i say, but i like an environment where people have to control what they say because it excludes those who are incapable of controlling it. e.g. not being able to say our home secretary was obviously appointed because of her race is a small price to pay to not have to put up with other people ranting and raving about transhumanists or arguing we should throw immigrants under the bus. it means we can move the discussion on to something else.
(though i will admit this usually devolves into a kind of self-important posing that i have no time for, that's fine, i just don't join the group and ignore it. but virtue signalling is much better than vice signalling!)
>>2921485CPGB-ML are a Third Worldist NazBolite cult, run and controlled entirely by the Brar family, and are worse then the ACP.
If anything their ideology and conduct is explicitly anti-communist.
They're not only transphobic, but also openly very homophobic.
You see, to them if you aren't on the very extreme end of holding to social reactionary beliefs you're doing "idpol". They don't however consider their own Hitlerian social views to be idpol.
This goes to the point that an ex-member quit the party and then revealed online he had done so because he'd been forcibly locked in a room against his will and interrogated for a full day simply for posting a tweet saying he thought it was acceptable to be gay.
They also control members diets, dress code, and hair styles. This specifically is why I call it a cult.
Unironically, all the bullshit lies Western media invents about North Korean state control over individuals personal habits, the CPGB-ML literally does to it's own membership.
They state in their own leaked internal documents that they believe that you need to dress like, act like, and have the haircut of a cokehead football hooligan to appeal to the masses, which is how they justify their cultish control of member's behaviour and appearances.
I think that also show the extent to which they're tied up in their own cult bubble and detached from the average Brit's perspectives on things.
>>2921574> the prometheus lotThe prometheus lot ARE rs21. Source: me I know them personally and have written for prometheus.
>>2921583Black guy in a doorag is 100% a UK born and bread no migrant is wearing that at what must be his 20s??
"They" are talking about it being Iran which would make sense; they often hire petty criminals to do property damage without telling them what it is for. Russia does this too.
>>2921580didn't one of the YORP gossip accounts (sorry, whoever you are, i'm sure you've moved on to better things but xcancel is down so i'll never know) have a recurring bit of playfully denying being RS21
fairford is a legitimate target as its being used to bomb Iran also what bullshit authoritarian bollocks can we expect to be implemented in the name of national security?
>>2921587how about mandatory ID cards, they've been wanting that for years
Where did Labour go wrong compared to other Anglo bourgeois socdem parties? Both Australian and NZ labour have made the transition to being the socially liberal progressive party of educated service and public sector workers reasonably elegantly while British labour clearly loathes its own voters (despite, under Blair, having had perhaps the most explicit aim of courting similar people) and hates even its own history of relative social liberalism.
It's odd because if you were laying bets in the 1980s and 1990s, UK labour would look to be on the same track: status quo econ + left victory on culture war issues. Yet even Blair rejected and loathed this in theory, despite bringing some liberal measures forward under the auspices of modernisation.
Is it that we think too much, or too little? Is it that we are a fundamentally sick society and they are not? Is it something in the water? I really want to know.
(The Democrats are a similar case, with the oddity that Labour was probably still better than them under Blair/Clinton but is now clearly worse… but aus/NZ Labour are more directly comparable.)
>>2921653Honestly I feel like either Zionist/fed influence has to be involved in a major way, like they sabotaged Labour on purpose, there's no explanation otherwise that makes sense to me
>>2921653the rulers of the US and Israeli are way more obsessed with Britain than with Australia, Canada, NZ etc. Their attention is poison.
>>2921653I agree with this
>>2921659 but to add the current Labour Right was crafted in the cold war to be puppets of US interests against not just communists/marxists/pinkos in Labour but also a sovereigntist soft left (Wilson, Kinnock) that the US saw as a threat. This lead to the atlanticist labourite that now dominates the party, who due to malign american influence are becoming more and more reactionary as the years go on. Aus Labor (IDK about NZ Labour) were already pro-America and anti-communist so weren't forced to undergo the same process.
>>2921700
dont get why anyone donates money to someone richer than them, shit makes no sense.
>>2921801This must be an allistic thing I guess, seeing someone I watch be richer than me makes me feel nothing but contempt
>>2921813
I can tell that you're spiralling into an incoherent tirade again so just heading it off before it starts
>>2921822
Basically because you're disrupting the leftybritpol thread with pro America shit, I should have banned you for that post instead, but also you've done this before where you start to get worked up and saying aggressive stuff that makes no sense and just spamming the board
>>2921838
your healthcare isnt free for you to be smoking this much crack
>>2921583>far right schizosIf it comes out that they are foreigners, you are vindicating "far right schizos".
>>2921948
Why are yanks incapable of not taking the callipers out? Even your racial minorities LOVE doing it it is the one thing that unites the United States.
>>2921951
You should listen to the voices.
>>2921583Male, 24, London resident of Borough of Camden, UK national
Male, 24, London resident of Borough of Westminster, UK national
Male, 25, London resident of Borough of Westminster, UK national
Male, 23, London resident of Borough of Westminster, UK national
Male, 24, London resident of Borough of Willesden, UK national
I get banned for using a vpn but faggots like this can post freely on here every day
>>2922085If you see anything that breaks the rules or ordainments then report. The userbase also has a job in keeping the quality of the website decent.
So this was definitely a bungled false flag that some woman bumped into right?
>>2922177Seems like the most likely outcome by far yeah
the five dangerous terrorists that would have blown up the entire airbase if it wasn't for the plucky resolve of one singular farmer is now out on bail
>>2922085I’ll let you off his posts are gone now
>>2922202turns out it was just 5 lads on the way to shag bonnie blue
not even 24 hours have been passed and they've all been bailed? seems rather odd doesn't it. To put it into perspective the six the raided the Elbit factory in Bristol spent 18 months in custody awaiting trail.
>>2922274probably because the manufactured lies by the press are complete fabrication and the lads where just stealing petrol from a local farm
>>2922285Apparently this all started with a resident phoning in, so i'm kind of expecting this to be the outcome.
It's been bugging me out how the van is fucking empty.
>>2922299Also further speculation - the lads likely where on intelligence radar for this attempted theft because they are retards and likely referenced 'meet me near X airport/military base' in communications. I bet intelligence services have keywords that flag your social media comms on whatsapp to them. Acting on the intell is another matter though as nothing happened (supposedly) till someone reported them, as it likely has a hierarchy of threat level and this one was low.
I survived RAF Fairford. AMA.
>>2922526The two racists have been doxed as Ryan Greenall (sometimes goes by Ryan Green) and Scott Brodie.
Happened in Lancashire so can report to Lancs police if you feel inclined.
>>2922575guarantee they've already got extensive records of violence against women and children. These types think they're so smart now they've found a way to overcompensate on a national scale
>>2922526Wtf are you doing sharing RT disinfo? Aren't you scared of GCHQ??
Any updates on those red diesel thieving scamps?
>>2922820I'm sure they're already safe and sound back in Tehran, but with increased counter terror laws we'll get them next time!
>find out the guy you're offering the job of social worker to is actually a homophobe who has previous for suing people in defence of his right to be homophobic>bring him in for a second interview to get assurances he's not going to fuck around since working with LGBT people is part of the job>get sued since you didn't do this for any of the normal candidates>losehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw0kl023xrk7othe EA2010 cannot be repealed fast enough
Thoughts on Burnham's speech?
Fabian
Turns out the dudes arrested by RAF Fairford were mere fuel thieves lmao
>A quantity of petrol but no explosive devices were found during searches of the three vans near RAF Fairford in the west of England, counter-terror police have said.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqn8m342rgk9o>>2923046IRAN is LOSING the WAR so BADLY that they need to STEAL FUEL from the UNITED KINGDOM to continue their ILLEGAL and MORALLY DEPRAVED WAR
Dude why is this thread completely dead unless it's for talking about rgen X footy hooligans harassing BAME folx in public parks.
Burhnam just announced he will make gammons and geriatric radfems homeless and pensionless which is actually great and progressive and not even a post about it while leftslopper like Corbyn and Polanski are calling out Burnham for wanting to kill our ennemies.
>>2923336Our enemies are a bunch of feds running around doing false flags? Well actually that's correct but that's not who the press are saying are "our enemies".
If you're talking about the triple lock, didn't he basically clarify that it was a nothingburger and they just want to change how to works at some point? Not saying they'll get rid of it
>>2923336Talk is cheap. It'll give him some credit for at least talking, which might save his dogshit party from electoral suicide, but I have less than zero expectation of follow through and even if he did I'd still resent him until he touches the live wire that is "ending the persecution of transgender people by the EHRC."
(You cannot credibly market yourself as a progressive party while being complicit in this and weak sauce deference to unelected institutions can't handwave the problem as it does for the SNP. A PM must act, or at least speak, morality and constitutionality be damned, compelling reasons as they are, on marketing grounds alone Labour goes woke or goes broke)
>>2923392Oh to follow up: what's actually happening here in my supposition is that voters are being steered back towards Labour/Con to minimise the potential of an actual rupture with the status quo for those who run things.
This could be quite elaborate, e.g. nationalisation is not actually incompatible with protecting the income and status of the individuals behind the firms affected, so we may see superficially radical measures which are actually pretty dud.
But more likely is that nothing at all happens. Most of his interesting proposals are for a 2029 manifesto, not something he'll legislate now when he has a huge majority, and governments rarely get more radical over time.
>>2923392I agree with you what Starmer-era Labour did regarding transgender appartheid was despicable and if Burnham doesnt correct course he's gonna cuck on everything else. But now, as far as the gammon welfare thing go, just toying with idea is a progression from the past. Also much of the anti-trans hysteria in this country is a byproduct of those privileged saturn elderly and their veto, Labour included. When you see videos of young labour members on tiktok half of them are wearing trans rights pin.
>>2923436the real root cause of anti-trans hysteria is that for some reason the US ships every single plank of their culture war here first for testing. We cannot restore Britain to the normal atmosphere of broad West European wokeness of previous decades until we have banned all US media, especially social media. The Chinese are way ahead of us on this.
Okay I will give him credit, teasing rejoining the EU is actually really funny levels of chatting shit and is well calibrated for appealing to British "liberals".
If this works it will validate my underlying feeling that electoral politics is now basically marketing an identity product.
>>2923336I did ask:
>>2922989But yea, said all the right things, interesting they've dropped 'working people' for the working class, but yea i'll wait and see for the follow through over the words.
>>2923436>>2923336>leftslopper like Corbyn and Polanski are calling out Burnham for wanting to kill our ennemies.which 'enemies' are those exactly? Hamas and Hezbollah? They don't give a shit about us and have never harmed a single British citizen (except for some of those sickos that went and voluntarily joined the IDF). Israel on the other hand kill Britons all the time, like those 3 ex-military guys who worked as aid workers to feed Palestinians and who Israel triple-tapped to make absolutely sure none of them could live to tell about it. Their names were John Chapman, James 'Jim' Henderson, and James Kirby.
They also used to lynch 19 and 20 year old British conscripts (who thought they'd be fighting the Nazis and were sent to occupy Palestine instead) and hide IEDs in their pockets rigged to kill the poor bastards sent to cut their hanging bodies down. They blew up the British-owned (and mostly British-occupied) King David Hotel in Jerusalem, and even after Attlee caved and gave them everything they wanted they kept on blowing up British homes and businesses across the Middle East in admitted false flag attacks because it was a convenient way to frighten the Jewish populations of those countries into making Aliyah and bolstering the colony's demographics. Convenient specifically because they knew Britain was too cucked - to them and to the US - to do anything about it.
Burnham isn't fighting our enemies, he's: giving them billions of pounds of our money; caving to their favoured media narrative on Islam and refugees instead of just fucking saying that either all immigration is a problem or none of it is; and brutalising & locking up (judicially and extrajudicially) anyone who dares to voice even the vaguest, most libshit criticisms of those genocidal maniacs. Corbyn would have prevented ALL of this. We'd be there with Ireland as the only two Western countries not licking Israel's reeking gooch all the time, instead of sinking ever further into the inescapable abyss of permanent US-Israeli vassalage and total civilisational Burgerisation. Which is why he had to be destroyed at all costs.
>>2923607means testing ALWAYS costs more than just letting the few applicants who don't absolutely need it just have it. It's purely a way to punish people for being poor, (by making them jump through an endlessly growing number of hoops in between their 4 zero-hours contract jobs and 'side-gigs' doing 'contracting' for a US-based multinational) for the delectation of rich suburban sickos to prove they're 'the deserving poor'. It also adds massive expense to the benefit which makes it harder to pass the commons and easier to scrap it down the line, which is why they love it so much.
>>2923731>means testing ALWAYS costs more than just letting the few applicants who don't absolutely need it just have it.Surely it depends on how many applicants you're wanting this to affect?
What would your suggestion be regarding the triple lock? I just don't see how it won't eventually balloon into being unaffordable - especially when rising more than wages
>>2923731In fairness this is unlikely to be the case with the state pension. The reason means testing costs so much with something like PIP, prescriptions, or unemployment benefit is that they apply to a tiny fraction of the population which is mostly poor, while the state pension is the single largest part of the social protection budget, which is itself the single largest part of the national budget. You could nuke about 25% of that by not giving it to people with more than the national average income. Even if you go crazy and assume it would cost billions to administer, there'd still be huge savings.
I'm not in favour of means testing in general, but the combination of the reactionary voting tendencies of pensioners and the massive sum of bribe money it unlocks makes it a no brainer for a cynical centre-left government. You take a PR hit, sure, but you've got more than enough money to throw at new shiny things to offset that. Free bus travel across all of England is just £700mn of the £38bn you'd get from the means test articulated above. Even assuming you lose 5% to admin, an insane figure, you'd still have enough to balance the budget and still have the same amount again - £18bn - to play with. You can also stretch that really far with cheap gimmick schemes like Scotland's baby boxes…>>2923874The ironic thing is that the triple lock is actually less expensive than the previous system, since even though it locks in a minimum 2% increase, it also sneakily changed the inflation index from RPI to CPI. CPI is generally lower, so we've not overshot where we'd be with RPI yet.
You could, in theory, achieve some of the same ends by increasing taxes on wealthy pensioners, or by doing something truly insane like scrapping the state pension entirely and replacing it with some kind of universal minimum income (more like negative income tax than UBI, you wouldn't pay it to anyone above that income but wouldn't administer means testing either) though whether that'd lead to cost savings would depend on a lot of factors.
The most basic and least controversial step should be to scrap national insurance and fold it into income tax. at the moment you don't pay NI above retirement age (or as a landlord) but it functions exactly like a second tier of income tax. (there's no special reserved fund where your NI contributions go, they just feed into general spending.)
>>2924062Corbyn was too weak to protect himself, he wouldn't have accomplished anything, we need to stop worshipping a false idol
>>2924062He cucked out over insane jews calling him names because he worship jewish feelings and openned the flood gates for zio+terf subvertion of the party as results. I don't "hate" him but his weakness as a politician and as a man was a disgrace mate.
If you cant stand people being mean to you you have no place in politics.
>>2924125>>2924129Yeah he fucking sucks, he's like The British Bernie, but he got a little farther I guess. I dunno, what else do we have? The Zara Sultana "Your Party" fiasco?
Surprised by no discussion of the labour move to PR. Would mean the labor party breaks up and a left wing faction emerging.
Would be big moment for any organised socialist movement.
>>2924144"We will pass electoral reform after an election we win" = "you are being fooled"
>>2924144If they were actually going to do anything then it wouldn't be "after the next election TM"
Is this your first time in politics or something. Labour have a supermajority right now, they could probably abolish the monarchy if they wanted
>>2924134Zarah is clearly an opportunist but she was a lot more right about YP than Corbyn was.
We don't really have anything, we need to try to return to first principles. Our politics needs to be based on mass organisation not charismatic individuals who will only let us down in the end.
>>2924144Nobody ever wants to change the system that they got elected through
>>2924161Corbyn kind of was though, in that Corbyn's election was a product of the anti-austerity movement.
Honestly, the fact that Corbyn couldn't see that Starmer was deliberately undermining him, sabotaging the party and positioning to stab him the back, shows that he just wasn't ruthless enough to be cut out for the top job.
Honestly not sure how he would have handled covid or the Russia-Ukraine War.
Personally I always thought McDonnell > Corbyn, and its a shame we never got to see him as Chancellor.
As for YP it was always going to fail: Zarah is an annoying narcissist and just not that good; and Corbyn has become more and more bloody-minded. Starting a political party in Britain is hard, you need serious money behind it. Right wing parties can do it because they are parties run by capitalists to work for them and as the media is controlled by capital it naturally supports them, and gives them plenty of coverage. Whereas their response to YP was to point and laugh as repeat the old lies and not actually allow them to be heard, but their distorted version.
The Greens have only in this decade really broken through despite being over 50 years old. Scargills 'Socialist Labour Party' are an example of a lefty wing party that never really got off the ground. Unless they got serious trade union backing and a media platform that was at least willing to let them be heard it was never going anywhere.
>>2924198Is Zarah a narcissist? Idk maybe, but Corbyn and his cronies are the ones that wrecked YP not her. If you were actually involved with it you would know that.
>>2924198Corbyn's never been that serious outside of being a good local candidate, I get the feeling he kinda fell upwards.
Reminds me of Dianne Abbot, just appealing to vague progressiveness without actually having any substance to back it up and being content with just being a liberal centrist backbencher and cashing cheques while making vague feel good appeals to the left.
>>2919031If you needed further proof that is is the Conservatives that are the party of mass immigration. You would think these RWNJ sheep might have woken up after Johnson and his "Boris Wave" but they are still too dumb to see how the Neo-Liberal establishment uses immigration to undercut wages and conditions all whilst telling you about how the ones they imported are going to destroy Britain and that its the "lefts" fault.
Capitalists like the former 'dishonourable member for 18th century morons' only serve themselves; and they really love immigrants as it helps further their political and business interests.
Can any scotanons explain who the Scottish Socialist Youth are? They don't appear to be the youth wing of the SSP but they are going to Manifesta and shit so.
>>2924198The problem isn't really that Corbyn is weak or stupid, even if he was the more assertive version of himself, someone like Melanchon, the problem is actually the political strategy which is just to ride a 'left populist' movement to win an election and form a 'left labour government' as if that won't inevitably be a massive fucking failure sabotaged and and choked from all sides, or simply forced to play ball with the financial markets, either way utterly discrediting the left as a result.
Unless your theory of change is based on hoping that the moment Corbyn or someone like him wins the election there's a military coup against them and this creates a revolutionary situation in which the masses rapidly radicalise and bring to power some vanguardist sect that's been waiting for this day then left populism and return to social democracy/old labour is utterly hopeless and a mirage actively deceiving the working class.
Until we're ready to let go of left populism and all other iterations of the 'british road to socialism' and return to marxist party building we're doomed to keep repeating the same mistakes and running on this hamster wheel.
>>2924144They basically have no plan to actually do it. Blair did the same thing in the 1997 manifesto, he even got Roy Jenkins to write up a big fancy report about how Britain should adopt a special snowflake electoral system that would boost the Lib Dems while still leaving Labour with a huge majority, but despite getting exactly the answer he wanted he then went lol lmao no let's keep FPTP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkins_Commission_(UK)This was one of the many areas where Blair fucked up even by the standards of a sort of idealised modernising
Blairism. (You don't truly hate a politician until you've arrived at the conclusion that they're a traitor to
themselves, and both Blair and Thatcher certainly qualify…)
>>2924161What's Zarah up to nowadays anyway? I don't keep up with Twitter since they killed xcancel.
If she'd gone Green they could've become the true poster's party.
Obviously it won't be a popular opinion here as such but it's unreal just how much Blair fumbled the ball on creating a more liberal, European, modern Britain by pandering to reactionaries. Like it's easy to go "oh, why didn't he simply legislate to bring back the status quo ante circa 1979", why didn't he simply use his big majority to legislate a classless stateless moneyless society and due true communism, but that's all easy mode shit. It's easy to go: bourgeois politician ran the country for the bourgeoisie and me no likey. It's quite another to realise: hang on, you could've run this country in a way that was better for the bourgeoisie and better than everyone. You fucked up even on your own terms!
BBC calling french Democratic Socialists "far left" but won't call Reform / Restore far right.
If the DemSocs are far left then one must wonder what they'd call the communists.
>>2924357They’d call them “communists” because communism isn’t leftism and never was
>>2924358What fringe sect do you belong to where you refuse to accept communists are leftists? Why can't you see how retarded it makes you sound?
>>2924357Just typical BBC things. As Andrew Marr said over a decade ago the BBC has a liberal bias, socially liberal and economically liberal. It’s why they were so blatantly anti-Corbyn and the moderate policies he ran on. Also worth remembering the fact that the head of the auntie is a Tory peer.
Even funnier when you consider the French PS is much like the Labour Party and actual socialists are very much sidelined.
Any deviation from Monetarism will not be tolerated.
>>2924367anarchist-landlord that votes for the SNP type opinion
>>2924367Marxism Leninism, you may have heard of it. There’s an obscure country called China where its extremely successful
>>2924375I imagine you wearing a full clown costume and face paint while posting this
>>2924370the BBC hasn't had a claim to being socially liberal for a long time. in 2021 (2 years before the government tried to play up trans stuff as a culture war thing by vetoing the Scottish GRR) the BBC wrote an article about how transhumanists pressure lesbians into sex with their sources for this being an e-mail poll of 80 people by an astroTERF charity and a porn actress with sexual misconduct allegations of her own.
and then another BBC journalist went along and compared it, positively, to the BBC's coverage of jimmy saville.
any remotely legitimate government of this country would do to the BBC what the Hungarians did to their state broadcaster: make them run a shame-faced apology for being lying propagandists who've abrogated their responsibilities as journalists, then take them off the air.
any left-wing or even liberal government should think seriously about how to dismantle rather than to save the BBC. at the very least by removing news and public affairs coverage from their remit (either without replacement, or with a new agency which handles these matters) and, frankly, considering everything up to shutting them down entirely and replacing them with a variety of other stuff for open-ended public media funding. (The BBC budget is 4.5bn, the department for culture, media and sport budget is 1.6bn. Why not shut the BBC down and give out ~3bn more in grants to people to make stuff? A documentary on the BBC is not inherently more valuable than one on YouTube just by virtue of having been rubber stamped by dickheads. (See also: "Panorama: Is Labour Anti-Semitic", and, for any establishment figures reading this, their famous "we didn't actually make it, we just contracted someone else to do it" excuse for that misleading Trump edit. Well, if
you aren't making the programs then
what is the point of you?)
yes, i do wish i could simply hate an institution to death for declaring laudable goals and then not just failing, but actively working against them at every turn. why do you ask? >>2924386>any remotely legitimate government of this country would do to the BBC what the Hungarians did to their state broadcaster: make them run a shame-faced apology for being lying propagandists who've abrogated their responsibilities as journalists, then take them off the air.Truth nuke but the brits, especially left-leaning ones, worship their legacy institutions too much to think of doing that. This needs to change.
I remember we had "revolution now!!" anons there seriously telling us to stop attacking The Guardians UK for similar pro-trans-appartheid coverages (let's call it what it is) because it's le wholesome cool oldfag leftist media of ye old time mate or something.
At some point you either correct the subvertion and root out the ticks or you cut the funds and let the bloated beast fail, the latter of which wouldnt be hard to do to BBC/NHS/Guardian as they cannot sustain themselves financialy and their output have been dogshit for decades.
There is case for retarded austerity liberals where libdem or even fucking reform leading the country and doing an afuera to save gammons pensions could have a beneficial second order effect on that front.
>A documentary on the BBC is not inherently more valuable than one on YouTubeA propos of nothing but on arte.tv (french-german eurocrat channel) any time they air BBC documentaries they bought to fill airtime they're always the worst dogshit available compared to the stuff they produce in house.
>>2924386>>2924628>just destroy the BBC so all the Tory media can fill the gap GR8 B8.
BBC has its issues but all this crap is basically a way to fully surrender the most major news source in the country to the right, at least the BBC has a pretense of being balanced and is actually accountable to the public and elected officials. Better than what you get with the "free press" like the Wail or Torygraph.
But the bbc isn't pro-trans enough so it must go. Actually give your head a wobble if you aren't just being disingenuous.
>>2924643>tories are pro-benefits They always have been. Look at Michelle Moan or other companies that benefited from corrupt government contracts.
pro benefits for the wealthy
anti for the poor
>>2924649This, if your fantasy after getting put into power is slashing state funded media instead of making it your personal propaganda machine (or at least replace everyone you dislike to make it a better media), the fuck are you on about
>>2924653>>2924649If they are full of subversives (they are) you root out the subversives; if the termites layed egge everywhere, you have to let it fail.
As for the sarcasms about "not pro-trans enough" regarding NHS/'BC/Guardian they have been on an violent anti-trans campaign for years, the NHS now shutt down entire services in Wales because of a dozen insane hags on social medias feeling uncomfortable. The ticks are there and well established.
Trying to disregard the problem because "at least it's not the daily mail!" will only bite us in the back on the long term, it arguably already did, especially when the radfem subvertors are also insane zionists that cares about womens'n'jews feelings more than anything left of center. The culture wars we launched on their behalf in the 2010s from metoo, to manspreading to censoring everything "antisemite" because of Richard Spencer in Charlottesville have also been massivey disastrous for our organisations and our reputation.
>>2924649The BBC
IS Tory media you dunce. Their "balance" consists entirely of averaging out the views of our deeply reactionary press. Dominic Cummings openly bragged about how their them politics editor would repeat any old shite the Tories would tell her!
It's not just about being actively anti-trans (different from "not pro trans enough") it's that it is reactionary on almost every front. Have you totally forgotten the Corbyn years?
>>2924653You have to slash weeds to grow nice flowers. You cannot simply take over a reactionary institution and make it progressive, sometimes you have to abolish it entirely and rebuild from the ground up.
(Imagine for a moment we put the money wasted on the BBC into subsidising newspapers like - iirc - Norway. Not by giving grants to existing papers, but by underwriting anyone who wants to have a go on a new one. No real difference to the bottom line of the incumbents and no real risk of making things more right wing, but a boon for trots and other left wing eccentrics, and perhaps for general investigators of actual news, especially locally…)
Oh and another thing: you'll note that the BBC want to make their coverage worse to appeal to Reform voters, but you never heard anything about tilting left to appeal to Corbynites or Greens or tilting towards more Scottish content to appeal to SNP voters.
(Well, they moved the official production location of a few geographically mobile shows to Scotland once nationalists pointed out Scotland pays 10% of the licence fee for like 5% of the output, but that hardly counts.)
Bibisi bibisee bibisee
>>2925065>Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg explains how Britain, which has a combat ready military force about half the size of New York’s police department, must prepare for war with Russia.Mogged.
>>2925068The beeb? yes? what about it?
>>2925065Actually crazy how ultra-Thatcherite neolibtard Jacob Rees Mogg, whom I would not hesitate to personally strangle to death on a good day, manages to look like the smarter and saner participant in this conversation, because Tucker has no good arguments and he starts flailing around and trying to defend Hitler because he can't think of anything else to do.
>>2925241It was quite infuriating, yes. Fucking Dumb and Dumber over here.
>>2925065>Russian agent versus Zionist agentRight-wing discourse be like.
>>2925250TIL children grow up when time passes. Was there supposed to be something else that compelled to post that?
>>2924649If you actually think the BBC is left wing you're mental, it's not just trans stuff, they are insanely jingoistic. Yeah maybe not as much as like the Daily Mail but that's like saying cancer isn't as bad as being shot. At least I don't have people coming round my house to try intimidate me into paying for the Daily Mail.
>>2925370nderground biochemical weapon labs are going well. People are afraid to protest due to criminalization as terrorists. executions are despairingly low but we'll get them up sooner or later.
I'd say 7/10. Room for improvement.
>>2925421Deport Kemi Badenoch to bantustan etc
>>2925283where did I say the BBC was left wing you bloody illiterate?
You lot need to stop being so Quixotic.
>2924658So stupid I'm not even going to reply. Touch grass, seriously. When are you going to accept the fact everyone normal knows you trans lot are mentally ill.
>>2925456Okay fine, it's not even centrist, unless you mean the centre between centre left and far right (aka just being right-wing).
>>2925421Whats the point in even posting this rubbish? I have a longer memory than a goldfish so I can remember the 14 years of Toryism we just had and they continually promised this type of shit all the time, they aren't even half as ruthless as they like to make out. "Cut the international aid budget", "cut the Civil Service", "cut benefits muh muh bunch of slackers", "hard on illegal immigration" same shit for the last 5 decades, and at most its ever just reducing the benefit for the lowest which is a measly sum relative to the welfare budget, let alone the National.
At worst they will cut 20k civil service jobs before realising they can't actually run the country whilst being at civil war with the service, or actually get things done without them. They won't cut Foreign Aid by even half that much because they will be convinced they need it for "prestige" purposes. And all the "slash net zero" and "destroy clean energy" whereby you plan to but thousands out work is quite at odds with how they are supposedly the "party of business" and the "party of workers" or "the only party to get Britain working"
>>2925065>retard v retard many such cases.
>>2925250WTF he looks almost a decade older in the new photo. Is it hard drugs? I'm not saying it is, but it looks like.
>>2925490It's the power of the bibisi bro
>>2925490>he looks almost a decade older in the new photoanon, I…
>>2925490Not sure if can't read or trolling.
>>2925421>cuts cuts cutsWhy can't we just shoot these cunts?
Legally, i mean, not adventurism, for being traitors to this country,
>>2925687If they'd cut pensions i'd be voting for them
>>2925456>So stupid I'm not even going to reply. Touch grass, seriously. When are you going to accept the fact everyone normal knows you trans lot are mentally ill.You've projected your opinion onto an imaginary silent majority and confused it for fact
Breaking: The Green party motion equating Zionism with Racism has just successfully passed.
That means anyone in the party who identifies as Zionist or belongs to any Zionist group can be expelled in the same way you would expel someone in the party who was openly a racist.
Hopefully that will result in the Eco Tory wing totally dying off now and people can push for the party to move further to the left…
Meanwhile at Tory Conference, Kemi has announced a new policy of "Free state funded childcare for millionaires and billionaires".
>>2925773Even if that was the actual majority's opinion; homosexuality, feminist opinions and people engaging in interracial sex were all considered a mentally ill or agents of social degradation, yet i am sure this guy support all of these fanatically therefore the anti-trans but pro-everything else opinion is based on bigoted sentiment and not a rational concern over social and cultural degeneration or even safety.
There is just something ridiculous in people stating it's morally sound for Wes Streeting and Sam Altman to marry and buy children together but Bruce Jenner getting surgery and putting on a dress is a step too far in paraphilia. Either the woke liberation theology or the chud normative reaction are correct but there is no middle ground in the LGBT question, and i have never seen a sensible argument for LGB drop the T that ever made sense.
>>2925787That is a very positive developpement for the future of left politics. very rare Green W.
>>2925787It's about time. Hopefully people have learned a lesson about dealing with those rat fucks
>>2925791Maybe if you had any real opinions, or at least confidence in them, you wouldn’t continually resort to strawmen.
>if you’re anti trans you must be fanatically pro-interracial sex wtf even is this argument. Seriously touch grass.
Remember when that guy womped Ann Widdecombe with a hammer? What ever happened with that?
I think there's something more going on here. Seems weird to kill someone that old. why bother?
I hear the Green Party has declared jihad against jews
>>2925805He got charged the other day and apparently for attempted terrorism against Nigel Farage too.
>>2925787watch the media be completely normal about this
>>2925799Being maximaly socialy liberal like you, or JK Rowling, or Wes Streeting while being anti-trans is either a completely incoherent position or something purely ressentiment driven; bigotry. There is no rational worldview behind it. Which you know since your crowd are incapable of debating in good faith and have to resort to threats of social exclusion, insults or the cult classic "why dont you have a normal one bro??".
>>2925899Labour shoul dynamite these NGOslop human right bullshit orgs. They are just tools of jewish supremacy and radical feminist identitarism. Relics of a bygone age when racialy motivated discriminations still happenned in Britain.
>>2925853So i looked into it, apparently he firebombed Farage's house. lol.
>>2925920IDK why any trans woman would want a moustache like I cannot fathom why
>>2926021Some trans men get pregnant lol
>>2925920Those bangs + the bandana his hairline must be fucking catastrophic.
>>2926067That's mpreg tho
>>2926021to me it's just attention seeking, I don't respect any of that shit. you either want to look like a woman or you don't.
>>2926016>the schizo showaverage normie entertainment
>>2925872>>2925899Good, we need to have this argument out and drag the Zionists into the public view, things will never improve as long as we run and hide from them.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/oct/04/tories-scrap-environment-agency-natural-england-conservative-conferenceTories to pledge to scrap Environment Agency and Natural England
<Shadow chancellor will also promise to scrap affordable homes regulations as part of strategy to refocus on growthlol. lmao, even
>>2926334If the Green Party were 30% competent they would be doing black propaganda about the tories wanting to pave over every field in England.
>>2926021I don't think that's a trans woman
>>2926357It is less competency and being ready to rock the boat in the case of any left-of-center party in the uk doing nothing.
>>2926461Well done on the retards here posting agitprop uncritically
137 unique IPs in this thread.
We could unironically become one of the nation's largest and most important communist orgs overnight if we all united…
>>2926513I remember when a bunkerchud posted a fake tweet about CHAZ people starving and it went viral everywhere.
>>2926604It was a joke man.
>>2926646TBF at least half of that is probably people on their phone/changing IP/etc.
But idk, maybe we should make a left party, we wouldn't even be able to agree on anything though
>>2926513Never bet against imageboard users displaying antisocial pathologies like thinking with their instinctive disgust response instead of their rational faculties.
>>2926605Moar liek Anne Hagardly.
>The English and Welsh Greens are facing international ostracism after adopting a policy declaring Zionism as a form of racism, which has drawn dismay from the group representing European Greens.
>The binding policy motion passed in a vote at the Greens’ conference in Brighton on Sunday. Four of the party’s five MPs opposed it.
why is it seemingly impossible to get someone elected anywhere that hasn't been screened by the _ lobby?
Scrumonkey was originally a right-wing political youtube channel hosting the podcast "Starman and the Boomer" from November 2020–1, co-hosted by Scrump (John Sweeney) and Boomer (Trigger Happy). Afterwards it was then rebranded as "Starman and the Zoomer", with the trans woman Evelyn Grant as a permanent guest, and then a co-host. After this time, it lost its seriality and became episodic until this day, with the Boomer (Trigger Happy) dropping off and Evelyn taking his place. John and Evelyn by this time had established an event known as the Nomos conference from October 2021, which bore relation to other right-wing speaking venues, like Scyldings and the Wittan. Evelyn Grant was previously Duncan Grant, who transitioned around May 2021, with previous presentation as a male. John Sweeney is a confessed trans chaser, reportedly dating multiple trans women in his life, and having his real start on a trans talkshow called "Seal of Approval", hosted by the right-wing trans woman Rose of Dawn. He appeared on this show from June 2020 – July 2021, which is between the time that he met Duncan (around December 2020). Evelyn has reported being disabled with arthritis and is supported by benefits. She has also claimed to be depressed and wishes to stop being terminally online, preferring a fantasy of existing in a real life community. On Twitter, she is bullied by fellow right-wingers for being trans. Of course, this is the "community" she has chosen for herself. Scrumpmonkey is also connected to John Dee (a British homosexual right-winger). Each of these characters have extensive fraternity with Neema Parvini (Academic Agent), since they are all inspired by Austrian Economics, and exist in a post-libertartarian cluster. Neema has been reported to have flirted with Evelyn, despite being married (twice). Evelyn has also been on the autistic Edward Dutton's show, where she is described as a "based beautiful lady😍🥰".
From this fraternity of characters, we see the impurity of the online British right; a trans chaser and his sexual object, a homosexual, an Iranian-Welsh larper and a race scientist whose best friend is a Jamaican black man. We may also add Carl Benjamin; an ethnonationalist whose granddad was black. As far as I see things, this is the equivalent of the American online right; Fuentes is a Mexican, Gaines is an Arab, Sneako is a Black Muslim, etc. It seems to be social dysfunction, and blind antisemitism which creates this.
>>2926908Why do you think it is? Just look at the pathetic hand wringing about this motion.
>>2926947Thats me in real life
>>2917069Lol, the Reddit greens are all crying that internal democracy needs to be banned now because they didn't like the result of the ZiR motion
https://www.reddit.com/r/UKGreens/comments/1wymowj/we_need_to_reform_the_way_the_partys_internal/ >>2927155Its called democratic centrism sweetie get used too it 🥰
>>2927155Libshits have been losing their minds because its antisemetic to call a entho-religious supremacist ideology racist.
>>2927217Its funny how the green leadership are opposed to ZIR, they where all throwing collective melties on streams last night over how much they hate being made to take a stance on this.
>>2927217Uhm don't you get how what you just said makes Jews feel unsafe? It's literally impossible to be a Jew without ethnic cleansing apparently
>>2926947>I will physically put myself between them and youVery gay coded
Media isn't having a normal one about the Green's zionist vote at all
BBC is up dredging people's histories because of course they are, they need something to try to defend Zionism "did you know one of the people involved in putting forward the motion was once friends with a Vietnamese man who once said positive things about Al-Qaeda???" what a joke
>>2927757The same burden would never be placed on any other UK political party being in bed with epstein/actual nazis ect.
>>2927796I don't expect anything better from the media but even people/groups who are ostensibly anti-Israel are showing their asses over this in a massive way, and pearl clutching over condemnation of Zionists in a way they never would if someone said "racists" or "imperialists"' etc etc
>>2927807unsubbed from No Justice last night because she spent her entire stream moaning about how she was forced to take a stance on this and then berating the pro-ZIR lobby. 4/5 green MPs disavowed it as well.
I hope the membership coups them all.
The response to the media should be that anti-Zionism is the same as anti Islamic terrorism. Mosques that support ISIS are banned, so synagogues that support Zionism should be banned.
>>2927809All these parasites just want to jump on the gravy train and know they can't ACTUALLY be anti Zionist lol. I'm so tired of everyone tiptoeing around "Jewish feelings", imagine if every person could just shut down any conversation they don't like just by saying it makes them "feel unsafe" even if there's no actual legitimate reason for that
>>2927821This is what people feared about woke 1.0 but ironically the average woke person doesn't give a fuck and takes the sensible line that there's something wrong with anyone who goes "but what about me? :(" during a genocide.
(Meanwhile all the AstroTurf slop in dated woke terminology comes from Telegraph writers.)
Lads how do we organise the British youth to go out onto the street and riot like the French
Is there are a single of this "trans genocide" people waffle about here and everywhere else on the lefty parts of the internet or is it just "somebody refuses to date a trans woman, therefore the system is biased against them"?
>>2928214Rioting is the opposite of revolution.
Only idiots desire such chaos.
>>2928318I'm still wondering what exactly "trans rights" are.
>>2928345How else can you get the proles ready for revolution apart from putting them in direct conflict with the police
>>2928345Mind you unions and communist parties are getting behind the students now so I’m not how you can reduce the whole thing as “rioting”
>>2928348>smashing shop windows and setting fire to bins is training for government takeover>>2928351The anon was literally asking how we can achieve senseless riots in this country. To what end? It's juvenile.
>communist partiesIs the CPGB-ML revolutionary?
>unionsAre labour unions revolutionary?
What would you do if 100,000 sheep broke out from the fields and started running down to the cities trampling everybody in their way
>>2928364I'd wonder if Clarkson let his gate open again.
>>2928318>>2928346>>2928369What exactly is your problem?
Why do hitlerites and schizophrenics obsessed with hating minorities feel the need to spam their demented reactionary ramblings here?
Trans people are scapegoated by the press constantly (9 anti trans articles per day on average in British newspapers according to Amnesty), they are banned from single sex spaces and sports, face several year long waits for basic medical care, are thrown under the bus by politicians, have to jump through hoops to get any legal recognition, are pretty much the one minority you can openly harass, mock, and use slurs against.
There's a reason trans people have far worse health, employment, suicide rates - because society is actively hostile towards trans people.
>Twanz genocide is when a man in a frock gets arrested for jacking off to little girls in the bathroom during a moment of “gender euphoria”Why do you spend your free time thinking about such vile imaginary things?
You want to know how many trans people in the UK have ever been arrested for committing crimes in single sex spaces?
Zero. The answer is zero.
There's never been a single documented case of a trans person ever being charged for that shit. Only cis men and to a lesser extent cis women.
Your obsessive hate and fantasies are directly at odds with reality.
>>2928381>HitleritesWho castrared Alan Turing, again?
>>2928369>>2928386>jacking off>planet fitnessYankee saboteur spotted.
>>2928381Also, I am genuine in my post.
"trans rights" are demanded, but have never been defined.
>>2928386
>pedophile
>locker room
So you're not a Brit, you're a yankee, why are you posting your reactionary bile in this thread? You have nothing to do with our country.
>Literally just a couple days ago a male
>A male
Exactly a male. Not a trans person. A cis man committed a crime. Not a trans person.
Yet you're a trans obsessed fascistic schizophrenic mentaller so you find a way to do mental gymnastics to try to blame trans people for the crimes of a cis man.
In the UK trans people face a segregation from the general population and can't use facilities like changing rooms anymore because of liars like you claiming that trans people are the threat despite having zero evidence.
>TRA lobby
Yeah the all powerful trans lobby is behind all I'm sure LOL. There is no such thing. Meanwhile in reality the Hitlerite/TERF lobby in this country is bankrolled by far right republican and evangelical groups like the Heritage Foundation.
Literally everything you have posted has been some sick paedophilic fantasy you've invented in your own head, and then said "but what if a trans person did this!!!", or a crime committed by a cis person.
You are literally unable to provide evidence of trans people doing the horrific crimes you fantasize about because it doesn't happen.
Same logic used to be used under segregation too btw. Racist clowns would invent fictional perverted and disgusting scenarios of rape and murder in their heads, of brown people harming children, and then say "But what if this happened!" as if it were an arguement to ban brown people from white spaces.
Then the same thing happened again with gays and lesbians to try to ban them from bathrooms and so on.
And now today the exact same tired tactic is used against trans people.
Only this time, in Britain, it was successful in convincing courts and parliament from banning trans people from public facilities.
>>2928401In a previous thread a long time ago, I showed how trans people are massively underrepresented in criminal activity based in prison populations. The hysteria is scapegoating, as you say. All of the evil in the world is projected onto a human sacrifice.
>>2928408This is ahistorical.
Racial segregation didn't have this pretext.
>banning trans peopleThis is also an overstatement.
It is up to the discretion of a property owner to pursue exclusion.
Most trans people are still obviously using their preferred spaces.
The letter of the law isn't the spirit of the law.
>>2928414Clearly you don't actually know any trans people
>>2928381You didn't explain nor provide a single genocide of a trans genocide in YouGay. Point me towards a public figure endorsing Total transhumanist Death, for example.
>>2928426>If you say soThanks for the confirmation
You, an American, come in here unprovoked and start inventing fantasies about trans people being paedophile rapists
Then you claim that hate torwards trans people is overstated
You, an American, come in here and claim to know which toilet facilities British trans people use after they've been banned from sexed spaces
Let me tell you most simply don't go out or used the disabled or hold it in until they get kidney problems, that's the reality
>>2928431I'm not the American; I'm literally the person who is sympathetic to you in the post you replied to (the person defending trans people from being seen as criminal) - I just overcorrect certain hyperbole. And you are free to believe whatever you like about who I know since I don't need to virtue signal, like some white fella who has "black mates".
>>2928386
death to the USA
>>2927155>everything I don't like is entryismThey're trying to claim that the Green Party was Likud until recently.
>>2928455Nah you don't get it, the Green Party was about being Nice(TM) and not actually meaningfully resisting anything because that's antisocial.
ZiR motion really drives home a thread on Stupidpol
https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1wzj3uc/jewish_particularism_at_the_heart_of_western/.
The "Zionism is Racism" motion, frankly, should be completely and totally fucking uncontroversial, for any major secular "progressive" party to pass. Zionism is a fucking laughably racist ideology, and actually, far more racist than the Greens even touch on here, since the Greens aren't even starting on all the Negation/Degeneration/Heroes and Victims etc anti-Diaspora bullshit that flows through the core of Zionist theory, or the reality that all forms of Zionism actually are pro-Antisemitism against the diaspora.
Also I will bring up several other events
>Lib Dems passing a motion against Salafi Islam = Non-Controversial>Lib Dems giving the boot to Evangelicals = While they lost a court case over this, there was no wider political/media scandal over it. >Greens shitting all over Hindutva last year = Did anybody even notice? Yet, when it comes to Jewish feelings? They're paramount. In fact, we need fucking BLASPHEMY LAWS for Jewish… political biases?
This motion is good because
1: It finally brings the motion to the front and stops Zionists from being able to hide behind cowardly platitutdes.
2: It finally starts to target the core issue, Jewish particularism and Jewish privilege at the core of these narratives.
Really, the ZiR motion opposition really are just making a single argument which is "Uhhh because Jews think something, it should not be criticized ever, or worse, opposed, because it hurts their feelings".
Sorry, what the actual fuck is this argument? Should we then go and ban Women and Gay rights because it pisses off Evangelicals and Muslims? Oh sorry women, abortion pisses off the Christcucks, bye bye reproductive rights, we need to make sure Christians feel safe, and get to go to their fucking death cult churches that spew nothing but insane reactionary bullshit. Sorry Gays, Mr Salafi Wahhabi said he hates gays, we don't want him to feel unsafe, also please, we're fine with your Salafi church that defends head chopping infidels!
Of course, in regards to Christians and Muslims, no controversy, but when Synagogues
>Fundraise for the IDF/Settlers>Radicalize people to go over and murder Palestinians>Engage in land sales of PalestiniansYou're just supposed to be fine with this.
Again, been saying it on Leftypol, and on Stupidpol for years, no serious sublimation of the New Atheist movement into the left ecosystem, instead letting them be captured by the right over the Gamergate era, was a massive fucking mistake. People need to stop this dancing around Jewish biases bullshit. Because Jewish people think something, doesn't make it automatically good and moral and uncriticzable.
>>2928467I mean the new atheists were always softer on Jews anyway though
>>2928467New atheists who went right couldn't ever have been won by the left. Politics is dispositional. The Zionism is Racism motion is a massive W for the "DECENT FUCKING PEOPLE." You despise. They voted for it because opposing genocide is important to being a "DECENT FUCKING PERSON."
Britain doesn't give a damn about Jews or their feelings. , just as they don't give a damn about women's. They just hate the progressive youth.
>>2928509>Britain doesn't give a damn about Jews or their feelings. , just as they don't give a damn about women's. They just hate the progressive youth.Worshipping jewish feelings and worshipping women's feelings arent in contraduction with hating the progressive youth.
>>2927219how to replace zionist leadership?
>>2928478the new atheists were 3/4 jews
British Broadcasting Corporation has posted like 5 articles today, on the day of an election Polanski is standing in, crying about how evil and antisemitic the Greens are.
Even Caroline Lucas came out today to say she condemns the Green Party.
What a fucking joke. Why is opposing ethno-nationalistic terror, apartheid, occupation, colonisation, etc so controversial where zios do it hmmmm?
>>2928738holy shit new word filter just dropped B-B-C now auto filters to well, yknow…
>>2926605Unironically a fair point.
Not that it means the zionism is racism vote was wrong.
>>2928745British Broadcasting Corporation
>>2928467>bringing up NuAtheism in 2026Okay unc, time to take your medication.
>>2928814One of Norm's biggest failings is he has 2SS boomer brain and can't envision a single secular state and national identity building based around a shred hebrew/canaanite heritage.
>>2928874> based around a shred hebrew/canaanite heritage.should anyone envision a state based on we we wuzzing as bronze age people from thousands of years ago?
>>2928905>>2928905Because it's literally what Jews already do, and it's the easiest path forward to a single state solution. Hebrew Universalism the main, but small competitor to Zionism. Modern Palestinian and Israeli identity is only a few decades old and not set in stone.
>>2928814Yeah? Obviously its not racism. Its ethnosupremacy. It really has nothing to do with race, you can be an Ethiopian Jew and live large on the land of Palestinians who look exactly like the Mizrahi Jews.
Mi>>2928814
Norm "i do not believe in the state' Finkelstein.
Fun interview.
>>2928917Black Jews are deported from Israel all the time.
Green Party is done for then.
>>2928999It was over for them before it even began.
>>2929017>the worst act of racism on the history of the planetThe sheer fucking chutzpah of this self-important tribe.
>>2923336>>2923336>>2919150>nd crush the ennemy >>2923336>leftslopper like Corbyn and Polanski are calling out Burnham for wanting to kill our ennemies.Ennemies. Ennenemies. I think the real ennemy is the bonglish education system. Wtf is going on over there?
>>2928745This is probably my fault for making that joke too much.
>>2929017Easy answer to this is "how is Israel a safe haven when they're perpetually at war with the surrounding countries and getting bombed? Why was there a mass exodus when 7/10 happened if it's safer than the west?"
>>2929000>>2928999They fucked it when they let Burnham run unopposed in the by-election, but this result isn't even that bad TBH
Liberals are blaming those Islamist third column entryist for destroying the green party. On the reddits places that have defended muslims are now spouting rhetoric about Muslims no different to reforms.
>>2929109Sorry, questioning the chosen people and their sui generis inalienable right to genocidal ethnonationalism is beyond the pale. They get to have their cake and eat it, and you have to smile and clap or it's terrorism charges for you.
>>2929109Good, let them show their true face, the only way this Zionist supremacy can end is if we stop bowing down to it.
Post anything that's funny so I can laugh at it though
>>2929109Honestly i have a hard time guessing where this is leading to at that point.
Will the west eventually drop Israel as appeasement/sacrificial lamb like it did with South Africa? Will it entrenches further in civil repression, dysfunction and despotism at the coast of everything else like Egypt?
>>2929131I think eventually Israel will lose the support of the west, not any time soon, but eventually, when the climate is collapsing and there's food riots on the streets, the west isn't going to have the energy to care about some shit hole on the other side of the world that they get nothing out of supporting
The Abrahamic religions have proven to be a disaster for humanity
>>2929109There are no liberals in Britain, guardian columnists are as reactionary as any other
>>2929214jewish nigger deported from zion
Kemi Badenoch Raceplay
Brim
Holy fuck no shit leftypol is dying the flood wont let me post
The British would ruin socialism if they ever got it, it’d be the new Sino Soviet split
So, Zack Polanski is a Zionist, then?
Or just a dishonest coward?
>>2929397The waiting list for ADHD is caused by underfunding of the NHS. it's partly artificial, intentionally there to gatekeep medical care because this is cheaper. This is all a symptom of capitalist decline. And of course, they blame it on the people trying to get diagnoses in order to get the medication to live normal lives, when its the NHS who are failing to provide medical care.
>Some X Zionist reported me to the police and CST for saying "I'm not Jewish, why should I care about Jewish prayers or biases? I'm an Atheist, I don't care about your religion"Now you know why reported Jewish "hate crimes" are so through the roof lmao.
If people didn't believe that what these Zionists want is basically blasphemy laws based around their Zionist Jewish biases, this is really just material proof of it.
>>2929109While I'm perfectly fine with the "Fuck islam" train in theory, Bad Empanada was 100% correct when he said the true "Antisemitism" of our age, is all this protocols of the elders of Zion, against Muslims.
While I agree Muslims are obviously trying to bad faith hijack the left to push their agenda, what gets me is that if you said this about Jews or Zionists, you would get the police banging at your door by the end of the day.
>>2929397Abolish the British Broadcasting Corporation. You cannot simply redeploy right wing propagandists with a right wing propaganda apparatus by emailing them the new party line. They must be sent to the dole queue, the machine dismantled and replaced.
>>2929424It's not really that it's cheaper in and of itself, it's that it's the cheapest option that preserves the position of people inside the NHS. You could just hand out the cheaper, safer end of prescription drugs with simple and fast checks and assessments, but that would bring gatekeeping-based-cost-reduction into question in general and threaten the jobs of gatekeepers in particular.
It's important not to have the illusion that the NHS is basically decent. It is less evil than many other parts of the state but still basically amoral. Even those who mean well become instituonalised and imagine that the gatekeeping is actually good and helpful.
>>2929443Same thing is happening with weed, instead of legalizing it they insist you goto a paid private doctor and pay them money to have a '15 minute consolation' so they can rubber stamp you and you can get weed.
Its corruption at the end of the day.
>>2929460Something something bullshit jobs
The British Broadcasting Corporation is still utterly seething and obsessed over the Green vote against Zionism
Seems opposing Jewish ethno-nationalsim is the one thing you're forbidden from doing in the UK.
>>2929631Your mind on Jewish British Broadcasting Corporation
>>2929443Also it is sexism. It's only recently that girls and women have been diagnosed with autism and adhd, and this has caused the higher rates of diagnosis. Even in the 2000s autistic women were basically just called hysterical.
>>2929741didn't ya hear? Autism is when attractive white man do genius things and have meltys occasionally, women with autism is a myth (obligatory /s)
got my mental health walk tomorrow lads
>>2929858walking off a cliff
>>2929858Walk in the woods with 10-15 other men talking about mental health
>>2929882sounds good, enjoy anon
>>2929887And they say people don't integrate? This man has already got the patter down.
Anyone got the full video of the tiger mauling that bloke?
>>2929887100% PVRE Anglo-Saxon. Don't even have to check his passport only a Britbong ever behaves like that.
>>2930061I know one of the guys arrested lmao.
>>2929917Hull City did WHAT?
>>2929887If an immigrant entered the USSR and started insulting Soviet citizens, they wouldn't put up with it, so why do we have to put up with it? The Chinese would smoke this guy for insulting them like this. But English people are cucks.
>>2930139Fuck are you on about? Even on basic politeness grounds he's well within his rights to insult this gutter filth sticking a camera in his face and telling him to go back to his own country
>>2930139The UK deserves much worse for both raping the world directly and being indirectly responsible for the US
>>2930145Wrong, the UK has been on the right side of history on everything, except maybe Cromwell went a bit too far and coloinialism was handled a bit bad.
>>2930139Taking the piss goes both ways.
>>2930145>the UK deservesNotice how you abstract from class antagonism to present a whole?
The UK doesn't exist; there are different classes and conspiracies.
>>2930147The UK as a legal entity only existed from 1801 onwards and its raison d'etre was the subsumption of Ireland under colonial rule, which led to perpetual struggles for independence ever since.
>>2930234Entirely unironically yes.
Even liberal DOGE would satisfy me. Hell, sell the whole country to Lidl.
>>2930226yes hes out and proud to his family and close friends, please respect his privacy in these trying times
>>2930139of course they would put up with insults bro,I don't even think insulting random people who heckle you in the street would have a repercussion in North Korea or any other place you can think off.
which country deports people for "insults" lmao
The man city cheating scandal may bring down Burnham lol
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/oct/11/zack-polanski-green-party-british-politics-government-unity-democracyPolanski has bowed to the Zionists (quelle suprise) and confirmed they will try to get rid of internal democracy;
"our party has grown to a size none of us could have anticipated when I became leader. Our party democracy must now evolve to meet that – creating wider engagement for members, giving leaders more responsibility to set the party’s strategic direction, and making our processes as robust and accessible as possible."
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