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France is burning again, high-schoolers and students are blocking and rioting everywhere since three days. Firefighters are also on semi strike, they continue to intervene but with "ON STRIKE" on all their strikes. Farmers are also starting a movement, and yellow vest were due to return on 17 october but might happen sooner.
Even high-schools in countryside and right wing areas are blocking and rioting!
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so uh will the french govt make concessions to end the riots?

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le bump

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they fucking killed the street medic?

>>2934917
what are you talking about?

>>2934800
because the farmers were protesting while everyone's focused on the riots

farmer's been protesting non-stop since monsanto deal got announced or even earlier, no one cared back then either because they didn't go around marudering

>>2934570
Le petit bourgweebsie

R there any actual French anons

>>2934646
>>2934904
This argument is so ass lmao. RN were already gonna win. This doesn't change anything. It's what libs call "polarization".

>>2934922
until 'farmers' stop being kulaks and give their produce to the masses for free instead of destroying it out of 'protest' to receive more gibs from the state and the EU, these farmers can suck my nuts

>>2934648
Accelerate

>>2934937
I wouldn't count the LFI out. Polls notoriously underestimate them and the media attacks them constantly because they know that if the LFI were in power they might have a difficult time getting bribes.

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>>2934937
>This doesn't change anything
The election is not the point, you're thinking short term.
Two phenomena to consider:
>politically formed adults switching side
>the new generation developing political consciousness

First one is very rare and doesn't happen under normal conditions. You need a deeply felt crisis, a culturally shocking event, a rapid societal change or something similarly traumatic for this to occur on a noticeable scale. Less politicized people, non-voters or centrists are the main subjects, but you occasionally get radicals as well, feeling betrayed by their own side and turning heel.
This works both left-to-right and right-to-left depending on the issue and voter in question. It's also incremental, meaning a single happening may be insufficient but two or three of those events in the span of X years can indeed break the camel's back.

One recent example I can name is covid. I work with boomers in a particularly lefty area full of '68 tankies and the amount of people that switched to right wing sovereigntist parties after the pandemic should be studied. Didn't even happen straight away, it took a couple of years to crystallize.
Some of them paradoxically still describe themselves as communists (I'm talking about the kind of people that has a Marx phone wallpaper or a hammer and sickle flag in the living room) while endorsing openly fascist-adjacent parties. Doesn't have to make logical sense really, people straight up voting against their interests and even ideology is nothing new or uncommon.
Can't say this specific example is widespread outside of my country or even my region though, not what I'm claiming.

Second phenomenon, on the other hand, is the standard. Teens usually default to left wing ideologies and causes, but specific combinations of factors can lead to exceptions as well. A left wing majority keeping power throughout their development (becoming the perceived "establishment") with no real socialist parties/movement to fill the radical spot, a ubiquitous mainstream endorsement and promotion of progressive messaging, a particularly egregious event monopolizing the news cycle, it can all lead to kids eventually going right wing.

My gf is a high school teacher and we had our own George Floyd protests-like moment at some point; she said kids went from supporting the riots to bringing Ben Shapiro talking points to the classroom in the span of weeks. I can guarantee you those kids are now part of the "youth voting far-right" block shown by our polls.

What I'm saying is,
the more this french fire rises and grows in scope and intensity, the more it's going to weight on both phenomena.
Riots won't turn half the people to a different party, but widespread damage and destruction of cultural and historical hotspots WILL cause a very small percentage of voters to flip, and the outcome of European elections is often determined by very small percentages adding or subtracting seats to/from a coalition. Maybe you won't even feel the effects in this specific election, but it unwise is to underestimate this dynamic.
Even worse, it's planting the seeds for young votes you'll only notice a few years from now.

>>2934646
I've just seen a poll that 7/10 Frenchies support the protest last weekend.

>>2934996
I've seen a poll stating that many people in France think that police is too easy on protestors. Which one is true?

>>2934999
They don't necessarily contradict, so both? In this case yours seems more relevant though.

Anyway, I actually looked up the source for what I was saying and it's a lot more nuanced than just broad support for everything https://elabe.fr/mobilisations-sociales/

>>2934991
>action creates reaction
Ok

>>2934991
the rabid police violence against whats clearly kids prolly made a whole lot more people go anti police / pro left than the usual smashies headlines make them go right

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these are consequences of england 6-4ed france, always blame england.

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>>2934906
if you are a burger, or more broadly, an anglo,
stfu.

Protests are nothing more than controlled tantrums the state allows you to have so revolution doesn’t happen

>>2935159
not one for reading history are you

>>2935172
You think the contemporary imperial core state hasn’t figured out how to control the social boil?

>>2935140
polacks are petite bourggie middle class labor aristocrats so no surprise there


>>2935175
They are managing the boiling milk when it spills out. The state control here is merely damage control

>>2935240
They’re the ones that turned on the burner in the first place just like they’ve been doing since 1789

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in mexico we also had riots during the weekend and people were flying palestine's flag while trying to burn the city hall in guadalajara over water pollution

why are there retards who bring palestine's flag to every unrelated protest and potential riot? are they paid agitators or just mentally handicapped?

>>2935279
they're just retarded

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>>2935295
>Notice they didn’t burn any Muslim owned shops or mosques
Fucking Based?!?!?!
>Bitches about moon god
>Claims to be a Nazi
>Prays for a literal Popsicle Jew
Only a Femnazi can be this retarded.

>>2935301
>muslim respect the "jewish" jesus
AND I DON'T, Capiche?

Marie was a fucking child when she got fucked by Yahweh to give birth to himself???
and Mohamed was a Pedo too.
I don't need to talk about the Jews, You know it, I know it, Everyone knows it, Let's not fool ourselves.

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>>2935309
Yeah Christian are known for tolerance.
Who said i am a muzzie? Fags be Chromosome dancing so fast huh?

>BREAKING: France has announced a partial ban on protesting on Monday night

>>2935305
Who cares you fucking suburbanite?

>>2935316
>I banned losing so i can't lose anymore
No shit they be protesting against these retards.

>>2935323
>I don't see modern christian doing that, bro
not anymore but who knows?
Yeah they realized they can keep their hatred for everything inside themselves.
Like a Woman.
>as far being the responsible for major terror crime around the world
Sounds based to me, Communism even.

Anyway, Christian love as fake as Islamic peace and Jewish innocence. all these Abrahimic bullshitology can go fuck themselves.

>>2935325
Good luck! I'm already in your walls…

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>>2935323
>I don't see modern christian doing that, bro

>>2935349
Oh yeah, 250 years existence, 17 years of peace. and competing with Chengis kahn and Empire era Japan in numbers of committing war crimes.

What a great christo-secular? something country.
Fucking crackers dare to cry Alligator tears for us.

>>2935278
Seething reaction to text

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>>2935295
speaking of which….
would you look at that.

>>2935066
last night my own mom (extremely progressive lifelong left wing voter) sent me the video of that fat comicbook/videogame guy getting kicked around trying to defend his small nerd shop. A week ago she was siding with the protesters, now she's calling them "bastard thugs exploiting the cause" or something along those lines.

I can guarantee you the optics are terrible on both sides.

Mort aux voleurs

>>2935813
I agree, cops should die

>>2935394
Fascists defer all thought to the hivemind (a upper class pedo)

>>2935767
>she was siding with the protesters, now she's calling them "bastard thugs exploiting the cause" or something along those lines.
sounds like the ones shes calling out are "the bastard thugs exploiting the cause" and not "the protesters". And the inability of police to actually protect shit while still doing ultra violent repression of pacific protesters isnt a good look for them either.
and honestly the looting is the only annoying material consequence for the government, without it they would just beat up protesters and not even have to look incompetent, unable to control the situation and forced to pay reparations


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