>>2938212Isn't that a bit too much bravado for a movement that has basically been wiped out?
>>2938229Has it? What's been happening in India? I don't follow it but it feels like Modi will probably be there for another few decades or something.
he's resigning????
>>2938298I honestly don't think AOC has a shot at all. She should(and maybe will) challenge Schumer for Senator. But actually will probably not run for shit and just move up in the House.
>>2938300She's going to be 38 in 2028, she has a baby voice and childish speech pattern. Trump beat the female candidate twice. Maybe the Dems will go for Kamala again or maybe they will be like 2020, and say, a woman is too risky right now, let's go with the White guy and Newsom will win.
>>2938296>FELLOW GUSANOS, COME HOOK UP SECRETLY WITH THE C I A>advertised on twitter dot govlol, the US has lost its sense of subtlety
>>2938302Trump didn't beat Hillary because she was a woman. He beat her because she was arrogant enough to help him every step of the way.
>>2938298The CIA cooked good on this psyop
>>2938296>>2938308rival government declared in santiago de cuba
>>2938269KEK that's pretty accurate. But Germany was more industrialized compared to Italy.
>>2938318I don't think แดuแดlossnW is as retarded(in terms of decision making) as trump ?
>>2938269this implies that Xi will finally be forced to Do Something when Modi crashes kamikaze airplanes into a Chinese aircraft carrier.
>>2938269i think this image would give 4pol a stroke
>>2938300>She should(and maybe will) challenge Schumer for Senator. But actually will probably not run for shit and just move up in the HouseI agree, though i feel like the DSA or some other group might get her to run even if there is no chance at wining simply to "push the dem left". Similar to Sanders's first run and Mike Gravel's.
>>2938298If there was a Kamala / AOC ticket dems would probably only have California and NYC
>>2938230The Indian government recently cracked down on the Naxalites and have essentially declared total victory and they're not entirely wrong. The Naxalites aren't entirely destroyed, but now they're only "active" in the sense that they're basically just in hiding in the hills and has been reduced to two leaders last I checked, while the Indian government is basically trying to flush the last remnants out.
A movement that is essentially getting the "Most Dangerous Game" treatment from the Indian police forces and military is hardly a movement that can be honestly depicted as eating Hindu Nationalists for lunch.
>>2938335>Liberal agreeing with liberalwaow
>>2938339when you kneel for blm o algo
>>2938347…You were supposed to wait for "Honkoid status?" before posting that…
>>2938356No brakes on the honk train
>>2938348why is indiana mislabeled
>>2938269putin and modi should switch
>>2938365it's spiritually ohio
>>2938365>indiana Now you're just making places up.
>>2938358such a great song
does anybodi feel like fascism taking over america is a histoical ineivitablity
>>2938376It would be redundant though
>>2938376Fascism was an extreme left movement compared to the history of the USA
>>2938376No. The opposite
>>2938376fascism is when a republican says mean things about minorities
>>2938376Fascism is the status quo, and the status quo is dying
>>2938376Fascism already took over thanks to FDR. Most countries became fascist after WWII.
>>2938376Fascism is not real, its literally just when capitalism gets weak enough that a Nero-like figure starts fucking shit up in the hopes that things go back to the way they were
>>2938426Fascism is literally just liberalism
>>2938436they don't, jobe iden imported 71 million sudanese to rig the 2020 election
>>2938435giovanni gentile speech bubble
>>2938436you register to vote then they'll take your name down at your local voting station
>>2938422Fashlin Dirlewangerno Reichsevelt
>>2938443Do you need to show an ID to register? Does this registration has a photo or fingerprint to compare to whoever is voting in election day?
>>2938335the next Fetterman in training
>>2938449>Do you need to show an ID to register? Does this registration has a photo or fingerprint to compare to whoever is voting in election day?If you're a man, they check if you're circumcised and then take an imprint of your glans. The call it penis inspection day.
>>2938449>>2938436That depends on the state, with a mixture of federal law. Honestly, google answers this in a quick rundown easier. But vote fraud in the us has never been argued.
When elections are meant to be stolen, they run some stuff like Bush v Gore case, and ignore the rest of the votes. They don't need to put dead people to vote or, like in Honduras with Juan Orlando Hermandez, they don't need to black out the electoral system and come with a winner 2 weeks later. They simply declare a winner through a court, more brazenly and in their faces.
What are burgers gonna do? revolt?
Indians are the biggest cucks, christ
>>2938488what happened anon
>BREAKING: The War Department has designated Confucius Institutes as a threat to national security.
Because nothing is more threatening than a Confucian philosopher. Not that if you eat, not that if you have a roof over your head, not that if you have a job, or not that if you don't get 2nd amendment'd while walking on down the street.
Yes, that's what the Americans needed.
we must address the left wing antisemitism problem situation which is crazy
>>2938516he's been gae all the time. it's very well known that he loved to go to broadway musicals, and was very friendly to andrew lloyd webber.
both andrew and trump are like those men that are hypereffeminized with metrosexuality , despite all the pretentions of being some sort of strong men and macho alpha. that's why he also ran that add with ruddy giuliani, with ruddy dressed like a fuck toy for trump.
in another parallel universe, trump's just a judge in drag queens competitions.
how right wingers threat to kill trans people in the open on X while they worship trump is something unbeknown to me.
>>2938528> that's why he also ran that ad with ruddy giuliani, with ruddy dressed like a fuck toy for trump.that wasn't an ad, that was recorded for some inner circle "charity" (money laundering) event in 2000. it was never meant to be seen by the general public. it was meant to signal to rich guys in NYC that the mayor was for sale to billionaires
>>2938436like other people said you have to give your name and it's checked with the registry so you can't vote twice. It would take an enormous amount of fraud to change an election in the US unless it's for the town dogcatcher or something. Nobody pretends it NEVER happens it just it doesn't at anywhere close enough of rate to affect elections. Non-citizens are extremely unlikely to take the risk of getting in trouble for such a silly thing (when to get on the voter rolls you have to first have an address here, maybe a job, family stuff).
>>2938203>You're an Indian Edition>>2938222>Member when Musk brought out his Indian family for a special meeting with Modi? I'd say he needs to start a Chinese bastard brood as well, but I doubt the CCP will go for that.>>2938228>"My partner is โฆ half Indian, and I have four children with her. One of them was named after a famous Indian physicist. So I would say I'm not racist," Mr Musk said.>>2938210>Howdy swami.>>2938343>Sounds like this guy keeps saying Vivek's son's name is Carpet.>>2938488>Indians are the biggest cucks, christHonestly if Indians take over the USA, it would be coming full circle
<Columbus lands in New World<thinks it's India <550 years later it actually becomes India >>2938542It's actually a myth that Columbus thought he landed in India.
>>2938546Burned the world down because his father hated him and he's a closeted homosexual.
So, what, a guy can't be friends with gay guys anymore?
>>2938548I thought Donald was the golden child and it was his brother that was the scapegoat? I remember reading that Donnie and his dad basically bullied his brother to suicide because he wanted to be a pilot (they considered it "like being a taxi driver in the sky")
>>2938499To be honest I always liked the legalists a little more because you can kind of respect it in the context of "how do we reunite/maintain China?" and the Taoists are cool for the whole Yellow Turban thing.
>>2938547>It's actually a myth that Columbus thought he landed in India.He thought he was in the "Indies" which Europeans used for everything from India to the Malay Archipelago
>>2938554Did seeing all the corruption around his mayoral race revolutionize him?
>>2938565nah he's just always been like this. he's been shot by the mob. he's not a pussy. he's a pretty cool guy. one of the few tardpublicans i respect.
>>2938499that's funny because confucianism is very burger coded. it's a conservative civic religion with a cult of personality surrounding a historical founding father with living descendants. it preaches nationalism, filial piety, tradition, social harmony, and family responsibility. It's literally what conservatives in America pretend they want even though they're really a bunch of libidinal libertarians who want to live in the Ayn Rand dystopia where you get heroin out of a vending machine on your way to your moonlight shift as a private police contractor.
>>2938436In serbia we use UV sensitive chemicals sprayed on hands to flag people voting twice
>>2938488>>2938490Theres a trend among leftists to shit on Indians, because of racism, because of vicariously acting as a Chinese natioanalist, because of the increasing amount of Muslims among leftists, because H1Bvlls keep stealing the overpaid email jobs.
But theres no evidence of this "cuckery". Muslim Americans vote Republican more than Indian Americans. Now that's cuckery. Imagine voting for the party actively carrying out a genocide of your people.
>>2938643Indian Americans are among the most Democrat voting minorities and lean left on most issues. But racist leftists use a few token Indians on the right as an excuse to be openly racist. Like how Democrats openly call any right-leaning black man an Uncle Tom or a House Negro.
>>2938643>But theres no evidence of this "cuckery".You can watch the OP vid. Current Republican candidate for governor of Ohio.
>because of vicariously acting as a Chinese natioanalist, because of the increasing amount of Muslims among leftists, Lol, got to try and spin it into hating on Muslims and Chinese.
>Muslim Americans vote Republican more than Indian Americans.
<50% of Muslim voters chose Kamala Harris, 31% chose Donald Trump, and 12% chose Jill Stein<Sixty-one percent of registered Indian American voter respondents plan to vote for Harris while 32 percent intend to vote for Trump. Dead even.
>>2938643>>2938647And I guess you could say that 32% is less cucked than the 31% of Muslims who voted for Trump, but the leopard still ate their face all the same.
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/10/09/india-us-immigration-h1b-visa.htmlIndia calls JD Vanceโs comments about immigrants โdeeply offensiveโ >>2938661Maybe if you could read you would know.
>>2938662I did read. Iโm still convinced youโre lost or something.
>>2938663It's multiple people discussing and understanding English. You're the only one lost.
>>2938542>550 years later it actually becomes IndiaIt has to become fully Spanish first, so the Iberian peninsula Spanish people can rejoice about world domination first.
>>2938665>It's multiple people discussingSome bullshit. /pol/โs been the ones with a hostile obsession towards indians, and voting makes you cucked regardless.
so now that everyone except the most castrated natural slaves alive know Zohran sucks and entryism only works for to preserve the status quo, whats the next DNC psyop the regime will try on our burger comrades? I'm a bit out of the loop
>>2938708Another demokkkrat will come in talking about healthcare in a few months and Hassanites here will tell you revolution is impossible and you should vote blue no matter how many browns get raped like they always do. It's "Fell for it AGAIN", never "Fell for it the first time"
>Cuba has acquired more than 300 military drones and recently began discussing plans to use them to attack the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, U.S. military vessels and possibly Key West, Fla., 90 miles north of Havana, according to classified intelligence shared with Axios.it would be very easy to fly drones from cuba to florida. if lil marco ever tries anything houdini would be in physical danger
https://www.axios.com/2026/05/17/us-military-drones-cuba >>2938708i just voted for kamala again
>>2938728>videos of shaheds flying straight into disney worldI can't think of a better symbol of total american empire death, lmao. But they probably have air defense systems if I'm being real.
>>2938735america just blew a huge chunk of their missile interceptor stockpiles in the middle east, it would be impossible to take down every shahed
>>2938791>collectivism will hurt farmsspoken like a true liberal.
>>2938728Cuba would need thousands to actually be a nuisance enough to change public onions on Florida.
>>2938728>it would be very easy to fly drones from cuba to florida.it's about 90 miles. idk what the battery life is like on the average military drone. some military chud come in and call me stupid and proceed to explain
>>2938735disney world is a stupid target when you have air force bases, guantanamo bay… why does everyone fantasize about anti-imperialist forces attacking random civilians? revenge fantasies? the US military attacks 3rd world civilians so the proper target for revenge would be the US military, not random US civilians. but if i were a reactionary trying to scare monger I would pretend the cuban "regime" wants to blow up children at disney world
>>2938643>people hate Indians in the USA because… CHYNAHChances of anti-CPC posters being Indian gusanos?
>>2938839from a quick and lazy search we talk like 5km (3miles) for low end DJI stuff with an IED to 2500km (1600mi) for Geran-2
>>2938844I just hate disney world I dunno. I said as a symbol anyway, there's no tactical advantage other than demoralizing failennial disney adults.
>>2938826you think it would just be florida reacting to getting bombed? also i do not think the american public has the psychological fortitude to handle getting bombed like its some third world peasant nation like Ukraine
>>2938880>you think it would just be florida reacting to getting bombed? also i do not think the american public has the psychological fortitude to handle getting bombed like its some third world peasant nation like UkrainePretty sure if its a bombing of our civilian populace you'll see a level of psychotic bloodlust that'll outshine 9/11
It feels like Iโm already dead but also not, is this intentional? I imagine most people feel like this especially my coworkers who are all in their 60s and 70s and trying to retire.
>>2938643I will never hate indians, theyโre nicer cashiers at liquor stores and their food rocks
>>2938888>cybernetic technology which doesn't even exist, but like for dogs because dogs can totally use technologyIt's all just fucking scams all the way down. They're trying to make off with as much startup money as they can before the whole thing collapses.
>>2938882It's kind of interesting to speculate, especially since some Iran related incident within the continental US doesn't seem entirely outside of the realm of possibility. Cuba definitely not gonna happen unless they actually do bay of pigs round 2. I think the US population is too divided and skeptical of war right now. There would be significant minority of the population with little sympathy for a military base; or calling it a false flag bombing on civilians, etc.
>>2938888>>2938891Wait is Colossal Bioscience the guys that are trying to do that "de-extinction" shit? Pretty sure I've heard about them and they're hilariously scammy; like they basically crossed some wolf and dog DNA and then randomly decided to make the resulting pups albino and claimed they "brought back dire wolves".
Basically their shtick has been using genetic engineering to make slightly larger dogs or whatever and pretending they're bringing back extinct species. Like they would clone some elephant with slightly more hair follicles and claim its a Wooly Mammoth or whatever.
>>2938894Now the dogs are going to be cyborgs and shit. Maybe we can transplant the brain of a human into the dog body and make the perfect canine operator. Strap some guns on the back of that bad boy he can operate with neuralink.
Everyone just lost the fucking plot.
>>2938892See a military base would always be a smarter target because it frames the conflict in terms of "our retarded government got us into a war and now we're actually suffering consequences"
Infrastructure with some civilian deaths (like power stations) might get a bit more dicey but can still be framed as the consequences of a war.
Purely civilian targets (Disney World, for example) literally will just enrage most people and make it harder to advocate for an end to the war 'cause the resulting dead civvies will become martyrs.
Personally I think this idea "oh the U.S. can't psychologically handle being bombed like other countries can" falls into the same trap of Hitler thinking that the Wehrmacht terror bombing London would demoralize the British enough to surrender. Like no, you're just pissing people off.
>>2938511>>2938516>>2938528>>2938535Trump is our first LGBTQ+ president๐๐ณ๏ธโ๐๐ฆ
>>2938899the problem is, as a result of centuries of peacetime, american military architecture was not built to be separated from civilian life, the two are deeply entwined. there's always going to be a certain level of civilian casualties even if strikes are purely civilian, Cuba can't possibly ensure civilian safety with strikes on ports with both a military and commercial purpose like those in key west or jacksonville
>Personally I think this idea "oh the U.S. can't psychologically handle being bombed like other countries can" falls into the same trap of Hitler thinking that the Wehrmacht terror bombing London would demoralize the British enough to surrender. Like no, you're just pissing people off.this is a stupid comparison. the british public was resilient because they entered the war with the expectation of a difficult struggle and knew the nazis were waging a war of extermination. obviously americans do not see Cuba the same way and would be unwilling to start sacrificing Floridian real estate values for lil marcos bay of pigs 2
>>2938899I just wonder if you know 9/11 was a one time thing? Time and place right? It can't go the same way. At the moment of American victory, end of history, after the first gulf war really drove home the perception of American invincibility, to be horrifyingly attacked out of seemingly nowhere. Maybe the american populace is in a different place now? but probably I have too much faith in us. I was too young then anyway so I can't say.
>>2938930You canโt replicate the effect of 9/11 because thereโs no collective reality anymore, everyone is atomized and their experience individuated by the algorithm such that the traditional methods of manufacturing consent donโt work anymore
>>2938931correct, october 7th was a failed repeat of 9/11
>>2938931I think if 9/11 happened again half the population would cheer it on no matter who did it. Around a quarter would think it's a psyop and wouldn't really believe anything. Maybe a quarter would be supportive.
>>2938938It did have a galvanizing effect on Israelis. I was seeing this stuff right after and was like welp.
>>2938930Well it's not like Americans who bucked the mainstream reaction didn't exist. There were Americans who reacted immediately to 9/11 that it was because of something we did, it was imperial blowback, and 9/11 truther stuff about how it was an inside job also started up pretty much immediately. The issue is that those people were only 10% of the population while the other 90% of the population was not like that.
>>2938925See I broadly agree that totally avoiding civilian casualties is unlikely. I just think if we're gonna get bombed by Cuba the smart play would be to focus strikes on targets with at least some level of "well what do you expect when you declare war?" to em, not just wild bombing as the anon saying "bomb Disney World" seems to suggest.
>>2938931It really depends, I'm hesitant to ever say "well this can't happen" because if it actually does you wind up with egg on your face. Ironically I think that's sort of what happened with the Israelis where there was this overconfidence that the Palestinians were just beaten down sufficiently.
The big difference is after 9/11 Bush did the normal President thing of trying to "unite the country" and I think Trump is pathologically incapable of that. He'd pull some "well who's against the war now, hmmm??" thing.
Keeping in mind the inevitability of some civilian casualties if Cuba strikes back during a U.S. invasion, I think a big propaganda win would be, assuming these are Shahed-136s, striking a bunch of military bases within the U.S. and then maybe launching a couple strikes at the White House. I can almost guarantee that if Trump saw the construction on that fucking ballroom go up in flames he'd manage to piss the army and public off by moping more about his buildings than dead troops.
>>2938930>>2938882>Pretty sure if its a bombing of our civilian populace you'll see a level of psychotic bloodlust that'll outshine 9/11This is correct. You know every single voter that voted for Trump would be ready to carpet bomb Cuba and probably the majority of the libs as well.
>>2938880>you think it would just be florida reacting to getting bombed? also i do not think the american public has the psychological fortitude to handle getting bombed like its some third world peasant nation like UkraineAmerica would bomb Cuba to the ground in a week.
>>2938931>You canโt replicate the effect of 9/11 because thereโs no collective reality anymore, everyone is atomized and their experience individuated by the algorithm such that the traditional methods of manufacturing consent donโt work anymoreactually it's a lot easier to control people because you can just use LLMs and algorithms to spam them with messages that target their individual weaknesses to get them to think the way you want. you can redirect everyone towards a collective hysteria by targeting their individual neuroses
>>2938888felix-sama… the shitbvll problem just got a whole lot worse….
>>2938643this bait did numbers
For the yanks
https://goyimx.com/cyber_razz/status/2113914810362433790A map of all flock's camera, microphones, etc
>>2938986Fuck you shitalian retard
I miss Felix. Let him post again mods
>>2938994He's perma'd until he brings back CPUSAnon's head or blows up a factory, shrimple as
>>2938998I thought he was banned due to his threats against CPUSAnon lol
>>2938986>goyimxthe one alternate front end of twitter we have left is called that? lol
>>2939001
You are not "associated with Juche", you are a bot algorithm made to shit up this site and waste everyone's time and everybody knows it
>>2938999the first 100 times he was, the 101st time, he insisted he was days away from sniping CPUSA anon and his dog, he insisted he had driven down from portland to LA to do so, then he said he chickened out because the dog was really big.
>>2939007You overestimate your own importance
KILL ALL MODS AND FASCISM WILL DISAPPEAR
>>2939034
>i am the true proletarian here, that's why i have access to way more computational resources than you… i'm totally not a glowie, anyway behold my 999999 GPUs spamming your tiny dying leftist site
>>2939046
>Again, I find it funny you think leftypol is anywhere near the main focus.
Why post here so much then?
>>2939054
Who the hell are you and what are you talking about?
>>2938931Most people collectively agree things are pretty shit
>>2939080People want cheaper beef, cheaper gas and cheaper luxury housing. Nobody cares about affordable rice, potatoes and bread as mainstream left wants you to believe. When they say shit is fucked they have different things in mind.
former cartel member when asked why he decided to leave the cartel and join ice: "it was just too much paperwork."
>>2939127They would be perfect for the work too.
Theyโre making it really hard to care and escapism even more attractive
>>2939133>>2939134I fucking hate Americans so much its unreal. This fat gay orange retard gets on TV everyday for 10 years and says he's going to anally rape everyone's bank account to death and they all fucking vote him in 3 fucking times. Xi! Just let em fly please for fuck sake.
>>2939146Another tragic victim of TDS.
>>2939146He only won the popular vite once against genocide Joe
honkoid status?
>>2939133>Trump: "While oil prices are temporarily high โฆ the United States oil and gas business is making hundreds of billions of dollars">>2939134>Weโre making money like weโve never made before. Theyโll say: President Trump is bragging about all the money they're making while people are suffering at the pump. I donโt give a damn. Weโre making a freaking fortune.now why do his supporters cheer behind him as they say this stuff? because the kind of people who go to trump rallies are giga imperialist pettybooj who are 5 generation military families, work for raytheon, boeing, northrop grumman, exxon mobil, lockheed martin, general dynamics, leidos, huntington ingalls, L3harris, etc. to the extent that any of them are working class, they are labor aristocrats in yellow class-collaborationist unions, or they are cops in cop unions. piggies. a crowd of piglets. they really do believe in trickle down because when their family works for raytheon, and raytheon gets bigger, that means their piglet children and grandchildren will get to go work for raytheon too. the really view these oil and defense companies as family businesses, and they're part of the family!
>>2939180
>discipline its members and lecture its base for denouncing militant / black bloc street demonstrations
proof of discipline?
>lecture its base
yes the petty bourgeois streamer grifter leader likes to talk a lot of shit, we already knew that
>>2939180Yeah keep falling for the scam created by a boogie rich failson. You are in a cult. You are not a communist, you are a fascist pretending to be one and Haz is more like แดuแดlossnW than Lenin.
https://saintstereo.substack.com/p/the-american-communist-party-a-reactionaryhttps://socialismforall.substack.com/p/american-communist-party-acp-defectors>>2939185> I have plenty of comrades who have recently moved from PSL to ACP.oh no no no ahahahahahaah
>They do not allow phones into their meetings.yeah can't record when hazzy has a narcissistic crash out like at 5:15 in this video
>>2939186>>2939193
Bleak
>>2939200
>The private Moss JDF boys sent me and my comrades honeypot bitches before, and we pretended to be cucks and had them fuck like 200 guys.
chat is this true
>>2939201Yes I was there, definitely not bullshit larp
>>2939200
>>2939206
>>2939209
aight man, thanks for sharing, that is an interesting bit of lore, true or not
>>2939228Reminds me of some stupid ho I saw online the other day who was saying:
>Before you broke ass bums try to slide in my DMs, show me a sceenshot of your account balance.People stupid ass fuck.
>>2939230
You're such a little bitch lmao. Your text was such shit you had to include a stupid image to be like:
>look how much money I got! I'm important!
What are we gonna die now that Chomsky is gone?
I feel like Americans don't really get WHY social democracy is not just "useless" but actively harmful. I get it though, Americans didnt have any taste of social democracy for the past 50 years that they are thirsting for even a single drop.
But like…just take a look at Europe. There are parties that actually call themselves Socialist and Communist in positions of power in the government. In some of them, the Socialist parties are even the ruling party.
They've been in the government for many decades, but it didn't matter because obviously they are opportunist and don't actually have a communist program. Of course they did implement some things like Universal Healthcare or free college, high minimum wage etc. But shit like that isn't actually stopping the new round of discontent and protests and working class action right?
So I fully understand Americans and know you guys want Social Democracy, but it will just result in decades of appeasement and betrayals while the whole time the working class is defanged and appeased.
THIS is why communists are more scared of Bernie/AoC/Mamdani types than any Democrat or Republican. We consider the low voting share and the general disillusionment in politics among American proles to be good things. It won't LEAD to communism, but its the fertile earth where communism can be planted. On the other hand, if New Deal style politics comes back, it would essentially salt the earth once again.
NEOLIBERALS ARE COPING REALLY HARDThe young are conformists in denial>The reassuringly bourgeois values behind a rebellious generationhttps://archive.ph/uAPelhttps://www.ft.com/content/70280c68-2ae0-4656-b013-281eb75a197a
<This is what one Emmanuel (Macron) said to another (the acclaimed writer Carrรจre) in 2025: โI was never a teenager. I donโt like teenagers. I donโt understand them.โ<But do teenagers understand themselves? Do โGen Zโ, or whatever is the arbitrary cohort of the moment? Young people have a leftwing image and perhaps self-image. For a while now, I have suspected that it is false, that some of the bolshiest among them are in fact capitalists or at least conformists who donโt know it yet. Nothing over the past month has altered that view.<In France, the (peaceful) protesters demand better-funded schools and then a smoother link to universities, which in turn will determine their career prospects. You might regard this as an expensive request for an indebted state. But it is also an embrace of bourgeois values. What the students want is a proper functioning of the merit-based, study-and-work social order, not an alternative to it. A fairer rat race but a rat race. The contrast with the 1990s slacker ethic, let alone 1968, with its frontal attack on normie ways, is sharp. And lost on some of these purported rebels.<Or consider the โcockroachโ movement in India. It got going after an exam leak ruined the matriculation of lots of medical students. The campaign then widened to encompass other grievances, such as bad schools and nepotism in elite jobs. Notice the theme here: thwarted ambition to advance within the system, not a rejection of it from first principles. (There shouldnโt, a radical would argue, be elite jobs.)<In the 1770s, Edmund Burke said the American colonists just wanted their existing rights as free sons of the empire, not a new social order, and so werenโt revolutionaries at all, but in a sense more conventional than those who would refuse them. There is something Burkean about the non-violent protests of 2026. Honour the old social contract, is the gist of their message to the state. Make bourgeois aspiration easier. There were times when de Gaulle and LBJ would have given an arm for protesters like these.<Expect them to become more capitalist over time, and not because of age. The central grievance of young progressives, especially British ones, is expensive housing. It is sparking protests in Milan and Tirana too. For now, their preferred solutions, such as rent controls and more state-owned homes, are dirigiste. When these flop โ Britain has vastly more social housing than the rich-world average as it is โ the larger issue should dawn on them. <Not enough houses are built, due to legal trammels. Supply isnโt allowed to grow with demand. The interests of the young are more aligned with market forces than those of the โconservativeโ old, who profit from artificial housing constraints. There is no guarantee that young people will come to see it this way. The rhetorical fog about Thatcher and โneoliberalismโ dies hard. But cold interest tends to tell in the end.<Also: by their deeds you shall know them. In practice, the young and high-minded seldom have a problem with capitalism. This column reaches you from Los Angeles, whose eastern districts have been gentrified over the decades, often by left-leaning twenty-somethings who regard that change as โproblematicโ. It is a global pattern. Frogtown is Williamsburg is Kreuzberg is Canal Saint-Martin. (โWest End Girlsโ, though a pop jewel, takes some explaining to those below a certain age in London. Those โgirlsโ would now live east and the โEast End boysโ out in Kent or Essex.) <The displacement of old communities does trouble these gentrifiers. But, to look around, not that much. To be at the vanguard of market-led change, and to shudder at it: that is the young to a T. As with the protests, I would mock the underlying conservatism, if I didnโt thank the stars for it. The historical tensions between evangelical Christianity and Marxism are well known, so it is remarkable that many Christians who are primarily non-denominational charismatics unknowingly share a strategy with earlier Marxists philosophers on how to increase influence on society. Specifically, key elements of the Christian strategy, first dubbed the Seven Mountain Mandate (SMM) by evangelicals Dr. Bill Bright and Loren Cunningham (Pinnacle Forum, โThe Seven Mountains of Cultureโ section), are nearly identical to the ideological state apparatuses (ISAs) developed by Louis Althusser (1918-1990), on the basis of the theories of Karl Marx (1818-1883), Antonio Gramsci (1891-1937), and others (Althusser 2014).Materialist explanation?
https://web.archive.org/web/20240808224244/https://www.evangelicalreview.net/01-2018_ter_tanksley-%26-schaich_%27marxist-7mm.pdf >>2939400It's not "high class dining" but it's still fairly pricey for most people. I think typically people go to that place for somewhat special occasions. Although people do seem to make fun of that place because apparently a low class place.
>>2939410Whitebread is a proud bipartisan
>>2939376<This is what one Emmanuel (Macron) said to another (the acclaimed writer Carrรจre) in 2025: โI was never a teenager. I donโt like teenagers. I donโt understand them.โHe was mature for his age. It wasn't child molestation!
Never going to be funny that one of the top world leaders is a child molestation victim who stayed with her molester. Very French.
>>2939402It's relatively pricey, but then again basically everything is. Fast food costs as much as a fast casual restaurant, so you might as well go to Applebees rather than Burger King because a basic meal is gonna cost you 15-20 dollars anyways. The thing about Cheesecake Factory in particular though is that it's pretty much the textbook definition of "slop". Not even being a hater, I like the food there personally, but it's objectively slop. It's a country bumpkin's idea of high class dining
Cheesecake Factory is overpriced, if you want watered down drinks and slop food your money is much better spent at Buffalo Wild Wings, Red Robin, Chilis, even Applebees. Fucking TGI Fridays if they still exist would be a better choice.
>>2939439Lowkey I kinda miss Ruby Tuesday, are they still around?
>>2939445They still exist but I think they downsized and closed a bunch of locations since COVID
>>2939376This is a stupid article that over emphasizes the radicalism of 1968 and downplays the one of the current movement. In 68 there was an absolute massive general strike that lasted weeks during which people were talking about what kind of world they wanted to build, and we remember their "utopianism", but the thing is that it really began with protests against the vietnam war, student conditions, worker conditions, against the police etc. Reminds you of anything?
Sure people still talk about the small intellectual elite of universities of 68 like the situationists but they are like the "ultraleft" the French government is currently accusing of being behind the current protests, they want to bring down capitalism and the republic but they (or we I guess) are maybe a few dozens of thousands if generous in a movement of millions, that is further supported in thoughts by 30 millions people in the country.
You need a movement to get going and spiral for thoughts to bubble and the masses to grip communist theory and for this theory to become a material force capable of overthrowing the current state of things. It's like how the women striking in February 1917 in Putilov didn't set out to create the soviet union, they wanted "more capitalism".
>>2939368AES is just as neoliberal on economics, just unlike the establishment he is against genocide
>>2938888Has this guy delivered a working drone yet?
>>2939431>>2939433I bet macron internally wishes to kill bridgitte. I have no doubts.
>>2939376TL;DR Jvpiter Macaroni is just saying do more Dirigisme and Social Democracy and all the young will shut up and become petty bourgeois. Hammer down on the old who are profiting artificially. He does not question whether this is possible
>>2939400last time i went to a cheesecake factory, it was for some chick's graduation party like 12 years ago. Friend of a friend. Everyone dressed fancy. I don't remember how expensive the food was because her parents picked up the tab. She was from a kinda petty booj Vietnamese family.
>>2939431To be honest I think its pretty fucked up he's a victim of grooming, but it seems like people rarely talk about it. Its that stereotype of male victims of female pedophiles being treated as a win.
>>2939376>"The youth will be bourgeois in the future, trust us!"I mean part of the whole transition from youth radicalism into mature conservatism is the premise that you've literally bought into society as you get older. Not figuratively. But young people increasingly aren't able to do that. Housing prices in the U.S. have continued to climb to the point that you need a household income of about $110k to afford a house out here, while the actual median income remains around $87k. This isn't even getting into how finance capitalism has devoured everything to the point that existing totems of maturity are increasingly becoming subscription based. The goal will ultimately be for no one to have security or stable footing, everything they own can be taken away after a missed payment.
I've seen these types of articles before, and I don't know what to call them other than self-soothing for the bourgeoisie. Its always framed that there'll be some abstract "turning point" in the future where roiling protests stop and the populace settles into this comfortable contentment. In a way AI is the ultimate outgrowth of this delusional behavior because the ruling class conceptualizes it "eliminating the contradictions" in a way. They think that if they just create a technological god with all of mankind's knowledge behind it, it'll find a way to make everyone happy without dislodging the upper class from their privileged positions. "Oh it'll cure cancer (ignore how only the rich will get that treatment)" or "it'll solve climate change! (ignore we can solve it now, its just the rich wont be happy)"
>>2939483>Podcasting while smoking cigarsLook the phrase "fragile masculinity" can be overused but these guys embody it.
>>2939486americans would rather vote for a woman than a jew
>If a fucker like this wins in 28 we're going to se an American Hitler.hysterical retard
>>2939491
There's an old quote from I think C.S. Lewis that describes the manosphere pretty well. I'm paraphrasing but it's like
>"Men raised outside of masculinity will seek out the symbols of masculinity"
Basically stuff like cigars or beards have become kind of a totem or fetish object for a certain type of man to shore up a disrupted sense of self. Honestly I think Andrew Tate might intuitively understand this 'cause he goes out of his way to hit every surface-level stereotype: "Oh, men drive fast cars and fuck lots of women"
>>2939501
You're armed? Cool. Do something useful and lit some pigs in a blaze of glory instead of autistically screeching on an anonymous imageboard.
>>2939501
Why is your widdle gun supposed to be scawwy when all of us and everyone around me has guns too? If I was afraid of unhinged losers with guns I wouldn't be able to leave the house. At least make a video of you torturing a kitten or something to prove you're like a REALLY edgy sicko.
>>2939507
>his guns were registered in the first place
>he gave up his guns and complied with the law instead of dying in a shootout
What if I just call the cops on you again?
>>2939486Ossoff is a paper tiger that will get dismantled during the campaign trail. The hype for him is similar to DeSantis until he actually had to go out there.
>>2939506>At least make a video of you torturing a kitten or something to prove you're like a REALLY edgy sicko.don't encourage him lol. some poor kitten will have to die suffering so he can prove a point
>>2939521
Why did you surrender them then? How did you know you had them? You're telling me these weapons weren't connected to you in the system and then you just voluntarily surrendered them?
>>2939522
oh your posts were already deleted so i couldn't see who he was responding to. I thought it was felix or something. I would never anticipate you to do such things, carry on.
>>2939541I have three different VPNs with ip-wide range bans I can't use comfortably because he's fucking paying VPNs to bot-spam this site.
Imagine spending money just to ban evading.
BREAKING: CANADA SAYS SORRY
>>2939486You were correct until about right here
<(whenever the republicans regain one house of congress)Impotency from the Democratic party as an opposition doesnโt mean that the republicans benefit, but rather that the democrats themselves will also be dragged down as well while the republicans stay buried under their mess. The whole duopoly suffers rather than just one part.
Then from here you got everything wrong
<Fascists get to scapegoat a literal Jewish president and more and more people get drawn to a reactionary critique of israel power rather then a leftist oneBud, they have no momentum. The whole โconservative movementโ is running out gas, both metaphorically and literally.
<By either 2032 or 36 most Americans are willing to vote a literal Nazi into power, not แดuแดlossnW ass ideologically incoherent fascist like Trump, a literal fucking "exterminate all jews, blacks and homosexuals" Nazi.You already have โa literal naziโ in power. Theyโre just so incompetent that they can barely do any of their โliteral naziโ fuckery. The administration is on board, they just donโt know how. But as previously mentioned earlier, they fucked things for themselves. So badly in fact, I could honestly see them on the receiving end of a purge rather than them being in the role of instigators.
>>2939587They fear knowledge. It is very embarrassing.
>>2939591another opportunity for me to shill Rajani Palme Dutt's
Fascism and Social Revolution Chapter 3, Section "The destruction of the productive forces."
>>2939588>They fear knowledge. It is very embarrassing.To be fair, I've seen that plenty of times on the left too. Like knowledge of something is endorsement in some spaces.
>>2939587>We're practically talking the very things we don't want into existence.They probably did the same thing with same-sex marriage by passing a bunch of state laws formally outlawed it in states where it wasn't recognized to begin with, which ended up both making it a national issue and teeing up court challenges to have all the laws overturned later anyways.
I heard a term once (referring to the Confederacy) called "pre-emptive counter-revolution." Lincoln actually got elected on a platform of halting the expansion of slavery but the South chimping out about it ended up resulting their society being destroyed and slavery abolished altogether.
Counter-revolutionary movements can end up being agents of the historical processes they oppose.
>>2939575>Bud, they have no momentum. The whole โconservative movementโ is running out gas, both metaphorically and literally.Couldn't the same have been said of the republicans from 2006 to through the 08 election??
As i alluded to in my post he may well get two terms depending how bad Trump fucks up the republican brand on his way out the door but sooner or later, by hook or by crook I think republicans WILL get back into the white house again.
And just like Trump was an extension of the fascistic trends that started under Bush I think whatever comes after him will be an extention of his politics and anything further right then this is going to be just explicit Nazism.
>You already have โa literal naziโ in power. Theyโre just so incompetent that they can barely do any of their โliteral naziโ fuckery. The administration is on board, they just donโt know how. But as previously mentioned earlier, they fucked things for themselves. So badly in fact, I could honestly see them on the receiving end of a purge rather than them being in the role of instigators.You think Ossof is going to have the Stomach for that??
Again we come back to the fundamental problem which is an echo of the problem the left had after 2008.
Whoever is going to be supposedly building this post-fascist America is going to be (in one form or another) the democratic fucking party and if its any centrist quisling on the ticket (easily 80% of the potential options) i dont se how we dont just have a redux of the the last 16 years of politics. It's just endless fucking cyclical Hunger Chancellors giving way to the NSDAP over and over again as the Fascists get more and more blood thirsty and racist.
I dont know man.
If it's Ossof or someone like that in 28 I kinda think we're fucked for another generation.
I dont know who the hell it could be but I think the 28 primary is going to be one of the only chances we have for at least a decade to meaningfully change the trajectory of politics in any way shape or form.
>>2939587This is why trans porn is getting so popular, probably. I myself didn't even know about trans people until MAGA started obsessing about them.
>>2939614good thing that the left has a monopoly on intellectuals. The kind of person who has these reactionary views tend to fail in being competent.
>>2939639>"Let me reiterate," Ossoff responded. "I am not running for president in 2028. I have no interest in running for president in 2028. I am laser focused on this Senate race in Georgia."hes not even running
>>2939649that means he's running
>>2939652>Itโs incredibly hard for me to believe the neocons were worse than Trump and MAGA, or were all that bad at allAre you kidding me? MAGApedes are garbage but neocons caused even more destruction than them with the benefit of being the sole superpower after the 1991 Collapse of the USSR.
>>2939652Yes they were, especially with all of the evangelical cults running the show and trying to crack down on minorities and LGBT people.
Morals are a spook and "degeneracy" is also a spook and projection by conservatives.
>>2939649Anyone who is paying attention knows it is Raphael Warnock who is planning on running not Jon Ossoff. But honestly want Jon Ossoff to run just for the Reddit candidate to get blown the fuck out
>>2939656Afghanistan and Iraq destabilized the entire region and domino'd into the shitshow we have seen from the 10s and 20s. You are belittling how bad Iraq was and its death count was tremendous. You said that you were a kid in the 2000s which explains why you are nostalgic for neocons because of "normalcy". But to put it better for you, the neocons are the reasons for instability in the 2010s and 2020s
the guy who claims to be 28 and misses the neocons is a copy pasta from pol btw.
anyways, he doesnt miss neocons, he misses the president being normal and not some loud mouth who tweets all day and talks like a retard
>>2939652Really looking for that $7000, no?
>>2939652Why would anyone want to revive the neocons FFS?
>>2939652trump is a neocon
>>2939400Gen Z fucking loves the cheesecake factory when itโs really upscale applebees slop
>>2939666This is like a genre of exploitative hack political books which sells some combo of anger + cope to Democrats after their side loses. It's very cynical. This world is so corrupt…
>>2939679That's Texas right.
A funny thing is that you have rich conservative operatives like Dana Loesch (former NRA flack) who do know ball and are warning that the Republicans are in trouble. She lives in Southlake which is this wealthy Republican enclave north of Fort Worth. But then these moronic cattle are like stfu bitch you're trying to demoralize us and we're winning blah blah blah, and then she called them retarded. Like you can't tell those people anything, they won't know they're in danger even when the bolt is going through their little cattle brains before the slaughter. They're also sharing completely made-up EV stuff generated by A.I., it's not real. Reminds me of how Democrats coped in 2024 before Trump won.
>>2939697I have associated with in-mail votes with rethuglicans. Or rather, I associate it with them. If that graphic and the association are right, then the cookening is telling.
>>2939698EV is always tricky, people go insane trying to interpret it. Texas doesn't have party registration so these models are going by people who voted in the previous party primary. And Democrats are currently slightly ahead of the Republicans one week into EV. What Loesch is warning about is that Republicans might even be doing worse because some % of Democrats vote in the Republican primary (mainly to influence local elections), so there are D voters who are being counted as R in these models.
Now the Republicans should regain the lead early this week. But if the polls are at all accurate then Talarico wins with a substantially redder ballot than what's currently showing. The other thing here is that low-propensity independents are bailing from the Republicans over Iran and gas prices, and they're currently at 21% of the electorate. Their share is likely to increase this week because those people (many of them Latino) vote a lot more in the second week.
>>2939639>Couldn't the same have been said of the republicans from 2006 to through the 08 election??Thatโs peas to nukes. You donโt just back out the damage Trump caused.
>As i alluded to in my post he may well get two terms depending how bad Trump fucks up the republican brand on his way out the door Heโd be lucky to get through his first.
>but sooner or later, by hook or by crook I think republicans WILL get back into the white house again.And I think the democrats will be joining them in the grave.
>I think whatever comes after him will be an extention of his politics and anything further right then this is going to be just explicit Nazism.I donโt know why you would think that. It already is explicit nazism, and that explicit nazism just salted their own somewhat fertile grounds.
>OssofLiterally who
>Again we come back to the fundamental problem which is an echo of the problem the left had after 2008The left wasnโt in charge in 2008
>Whoever is going to be supposedly building this post-fascist America is going to be (in one form or another) the democratic fucking party and if its any centrist quisling on the ticket (easily 80% of the potential options) i dont se how we dont just have a redux of the the last 16 years of politics. Simple, both parties and the government they rely on collapses. Everyone marks them as the disappointments they actually and move. Thatโs it.>It's just endless fucking cyclical Hunger Chancellors giving way to the NSDAP over and over again as the Fascists get more and more blood thirsty and racist."I feel like youโre not actually thinking outside the box, and are too stuck in the red and blue dichotomy to realize said dichotomy is breaking.
>>2939665>normalAka covertly genocidal prole hater
honkoid status?
Wages Fall to 43% of U.S. Gross Domestic Income, Lowest Since 1929>WARNING: Gets ghoulish https://unusualwhales.com/news/wages-43-percent-gdi-lowest-since-great-depression<The share of U.S. gross domestic income going to workers has quietly slipped to a level not seen in nearly a century. Fresh data shows wages and salaries at roughly 43% of GDI in the first quarter of 2026, the weakest reading since 1929.<Wages and salaries at roughly 43% of U.S. gross domestic income in the first quarter of 2026. That share is nearly the lowest since the Great Depression began, per a series that dates back to 1929.
<A broader measure of laborโs share that includes benefits, employer-provided health insurance, and other supplements stood at 53.8% in Q3 2025 and 54.1% in Q1 2026 โ the lowest reading since 1947, when the Bureau of Labor Statistics started tracking it.
<It does not mean Americans suddenly took a 57% pay cut. The figure only counts wages and salaries. It leaves out benefits that employers pay for workers, such as health insurance and retirement plans.
<Americans are still getting raises. The latest Employment Cost Index from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics found wages and salaries rose 3.2% over the 12 months leading up to June 2026. The issue is structural, not a one-quarter shock.
<The New York Federal Reserve published analysis in June 2026 examining the trend, concluding that the recent decline reflects structural changes in the economy, not just the normal ups and downs of business cycles.
<Globalization moved production to lower-wage countries. Automation replaced workers with machines. The rise of capital-light tech platforms meant enormous profits flowing to relatively few employees and shareholders.
<For investors, the most immediate concern is consumer spending. When workers capture a shrinking share of income, their capacity to buy goods and services weakens over time.
<The flip side is that a smaller labor share means a larger capital share โ margin expansion has been a real driver of the equity rally, and that dynamic is showing up directly in the GDI split. >>2939736can we get this economic crash started please? I'm ready for the bread riots.
>>2939663not to mention incredible amounts of corruption with Cheney-Haliburton, Chalabi, contractor kick-back schemes, plundering of oil revenue. That whole administration was full of absolute incompetent clowns just like this current one, except they were just clowns with fancy expensive educations so they could soothe their idiocy. What is going with Venezuela today is exactly the same shit as post invasion iraq; the blowback just hasn't hit yet.
>>2939775>and the tendency of each new generation to grow up without any political education, outside of whatever nonsense their parents believe.The internet
>>2939756What is the song that plays in this video? I've always wanted to know but I forget to ask.
>>2939799beats me, i got the vid from another anon on here, sorry! if you convert it into an mp3 you might be able to get some online service to tell you what song it is
>>2939798Counteracts that
>>2939827marx? who made a living off articles promulgated and sold through printed press?
>>2939845a statement being hypocritical doesn't always make it less true.
>>2939851are the RSDLP also hypocritical for winning the revolution through Pravda? if lenin lived today he'd be a livestreamer
>>2939686since you're a fellow PNAC head, look into prompt global strike. that one is a doozy.
>>2939857>winning the revolution through Pravdapretty sure it was the thousands of armed and pissed off WW1 veterans that helped them storm the winter palace.
>>2939857>lenin would be a petty-bourgesisie livestreamerRetarded
>>2939863as opposed to being a petty bourgeois intellectual living in Switzerland?
>>2939871Your mentally retarded he was broke and wanted by authorites in exile, streamers are always neither of those.
>>2939875he became petty bourgeois literally the moment he graduated as a Lawyer big dawg. seems exactly like something he'd do
>>2939880Meds being a lawyer does not make you a bourg or petty bourg automatically unless he owned his own firm
>>2939846oh no did Bill stop sucking Trump's balls for 2 microseconds or something?
>>2939882castro owned a law firm, you're saying he was porky?
Has anybody noticed the "trump was a democrat before he ran for president" talking point really starting to pick up steam in conservative places? Do you think they will end up completely disavowing him?
>>2939652You're joking, right?
The War in Iraq was worse than Iran in terms of sheer civilian body count, and the 2008 crash was what started the social instability we have now
>>2939775It makes me feel insane everyone has let the internet overwrite the collective memory of the 2000s out of nostalgia. Dumb motherfuckers who were either not alive then or were kids genuinely think that the 2000s were Frutiger Aero Fun Times and everything looked like a Spy Kids movie or whatever. The 2000s were genuine dogshit and half of our current problems started them.
>But anon! McDonalds was HECKIN COLORFULMcDonalds' has always looked like shit and people used to make fun of colorful corpo crap for being deceptive
>>2939917Jews are such cry babies
>>2939964Jews Redditors are such cry babies
>>2940004IDGAF. That's worth a lake or two being drained.
>>2940049
>report the mods to the epstein class for me
why
>>2940049
>shows up
>accuses everyone who posts here of being pedos despite also posting here
>pays for VPNs to spam here every day
>requests we report the website we go to to law enforcement
>posts shady links
>trust me bro
>>2940020
crazy how you keep coming back but you leave alone websites like 4chan which is 10000x bigger and more right wing and more full of questionable content. i bet you're the same people who actually spam the CP in siberia.
>>2940061who knows anymore, probably some russophile throwing a tantrum
>>2940071they are the ones who usually throw tantrums like this when things don't go their way
>>2939846Sadly I hate Bill Maher as much as I hate Trump
>>2940072why is the republican message
>if you let trans people trans themselves they are actually trying to trans your children, and trans you in your sleep >>2940156I don't know, but I wouldn't want that to happen to me.
>>2940062The internet glorifying schizodom was a mistake
>>2939827He is not wrong. But the internet and the conditions it has existed in are very different than that of the printing press. The modern proletariat can look elsewhere on the on internet rather than big news outlets and fanatic blog pages, and in general live in a more scientific time.
The proletariat of the past meanwhile could not necessarily use the specifically curated papers and books they received to easily find alternate and opposing opinions to the mainstream, and had lived in less scientific times.
>>2940170Itโs a mixed bag, but I do appreciate the slight increase in mental health positivity and the further exploration of non traditional viewpoints, even if it shows itโs imperfection at times.
>>2939959it doesn't matter what time period you live in, there will always be young chuds nostalgic for a time roughly before they were born, and they romanticize it as a golden era, and project a bunch of art and advertising aesthetics onto the actual historical time period. and the old and senile will also be nostalgic for their youth, and their dying brains will fabricate memories of it actually being better than it was. I think it's part of how the human brain ages, to engage in these fallacious forms of thinking.
>>2939652>Itโs incredibly hard for me to believe the neocons were worse than Trump and MAGA, or were all that bad at all.strike 1
>I just turned 28, so I was a kid in the 2000s and barely remember what politics was like back then.strike 2
>Leo Strauss was actually quite based. He was very pro-traditionalism and endlessly called out the moral relativism and lack of virtue in politics which lead to the degeneracy we see today.strike 3, you're out
>>2939587These clowns still have Kirk as their sub icon
>One way to lower food prices, then, would be for the government to provide a public option for food purchasing. The Kitchen Table Project argues that the federal government should launch an โaffordable groceries partnershipโ in which it would agree to purchase a basket of food staples, including eggs, ground beef, milk, produce, rice, and peanut butter. Because the government would be buying in large quantities, it would have leverage to negotiate down the prices for these food items. Then it would sell to participating grocery stores at that lower price point.materialist explanation for why the Atlantic wants socialized grocery stores?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/grocery-prices-public-option/689132/ >>2940295Theyโre sober enough to know Zohran is the only route to getting Dems back in power after Trump smashed Clintonism (of which Obama was part and parcel)
>>2940308Hey if it works for China it can work for us
>>2940310I don't think it works that easily but I hope you get your government-subsidized groceries burgerbros
To you the bold and foolish lambs. To you who are intoxicated with riddles, let's go. Who take pleasure in twilight. Whose souls are lured by noise to every treacherous abyss. For you do not feel for a rope like cowards, and where you can guess you hate to calculate. And where others would poison, you dismember.
- Chris thomson(circus lupus) quoting thu5 5pok3 Zarathustra.
Hello comrades, donโt forget to vote for Jack wilimos(PLA-NC) for u.s senate. Workers,bashkohuni!
>>2938203>>2940354Is that a cool libertarian or one of those new age Hitlerite libertarians?
>>2940393And weโre only just getting started with the US of A
>>2940393What's a consumer confidence?
>>2940380Doesn't seem like a fan of the police, at least.
It seems like he announced that he's going to kill himself, and then struggled to actually pull the trigger. Someone called the cops, who came in with guns (lol), and he's now on the run from them. Hasn't shot any of them. (Assuming his posts are to be trusted).
I feel sorry for the dude :(
>>2940399>feeling sorry>for a lolbertgrifters deserve little to no empathy.
>>2940407it's possible to feel sorry for someone relative to the bourgeois state trying to the murder them, while not liking them on a personal level
>>2940397Means how confident consumers are about the economy and their own wallets.
>>2940430i feel like material metrics are more relevant than feels unless you're an investor trying to track the "animal spirits" as keynes called them
Marco Rubioโs visit to Athens integrates Greece deeper into US imperialismโs war strategy
The conservative New Democracy (ND) government in Athens is integrating Greece ever more deeply into Washingtonโs drive to war from the Eastern Mediterranean to Iran and Ukraine.
Greeceโs critical geopolitical position is being placed at the disposal of the US military and NATO, tens of billions of euros are being committed to rearmament, and its energy policy is being aligned with the strategic interests of US imperialismโat a staggering social cost to workers and youth.
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio visited Athens on October 6โ7 and held talks with Foreign Minister Giorgos Gerapetritis and Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis. The talks centred on binding Greece more closely to Washingtonโs war strategy in the region in an effort to dominate its energy resources and trade routes.
A joint statement released by Gerapetritis and Rubio after their October 7 meeting announced a $4 billion arms package including munitions and upgrades for Greeceโs F-16 and F-35 fighter jets.
The statement announced the โVertical Gas Corridorโ initiative that aims to turn Greece into a regional hub for US gas. US energy firms ExxonMobil and Chevron are set to profit from hydrocarbon exploration in the Ionian Sea and south of Crete.
Rubioโs visit was overshadowed by earlier reports on the conduct of US Ambassador to Greece Kimberly Guilfoyle, who was lobbying governments on behalf of Aktor Group, one of the main Greek companies involved in โVertical Gas Corridorโ deals. She offered a rich US donor access to President Donald Trump if he paid off a $100,000 credit card bill.
In an exchange with Greeceโs energy minister, while referring to the collapse of the government in Romania, Guilfoyle belligerently said, โWe can do that to any country we want. We can do that here.โ After initial dithering over whether Guilfoyleโs position was untenable, the Trump administration forced her resignation on October 13. On the calculations behind her resignation, an unnamed Republican operative told Politico that โthe craziness and the corruption was too blatant and Greece too important.โ
The US military base in Souda Bay in Crete has for decades served US imperialism as a key logistics and transit hub. It is now being used in the war against Iran, while the US base in Alexandroupoli in northeastern Greeceโa combined military base and natural gas facilityโplays a similar role in NATOโs war against Russia in Ukraine.
Over the next 12 years Greece plans to spend โฌ25 billion in the largest modernisation of its armed forces in history. The flagship is the $3.5 billion Achilles Shieldโan anti-aircraft and anti-drone domeโwhich will be developed in partnership with Israel. In a press conference, Rubio praised Greece for being on track to spend 5 percent of GDP on its military and related infrastructure by 2035.
While billions of euros are squandered on war and energy deals, the Greek working class is still reeling from austerity implemented by successive governments during the last decade at the behest of the European Union (EU) and International Monetary Fund.
In 2024, public health spending stood at just over โฌ12 billion, more than a fifth lower than in 2009, while average full-time earnings were โฌ18,000, less than half the EU average, and the minimum wage is a paltry โฌ920 a month.
According to Eurostat figures last month, 87.1 percent of people in Greece struggled to make ends meetโthe highest in the EU and more than double the EU average of 42.5 percent.
The centrepiece of Rubioโs visit was his address at the Pnyx on the evening of October 7โthe site of the sovereign assembly of citizens in ancient Athens. There was nothing democratic about Rubioโs speech. Attendance was by invitation only, limited to a handful of politicians, foreign diplomats and businesspeople, with snipers employed on elevated positions around the site. A 24-hour ban on outdoor gatherings applied across central Athens, with 3,000 police deployed and surveillance drones overhead.
Rubioโs speech rehashed the fascistic themes he set out in Munich on February 14, centring on the myth of Western โsuperiorityโ while invoking the โgreat manโ narrative of history.
Rubio used the word โdemocracyโ only twiceโpaying lip service to ancient Athensโs political systemโbefore revealing that it was not the democratic traditions of the Athenian city state that he valued. Rather, it was โqualitiesโ that โran far, far deeperโ that โcanโt be reduced to any particular political system or theory.โ
Chief among these qualities, according to Rubio, is the ancient Greek concept of โthumosโโthe part of a person that feels anger, pride, courage and indignationโwithout which โnations lose their will to fight, the will to strive, the will to survive.โ
Ignoring the fact that ancient Greek philosophers cautioned that โthumosโ should be subordinate to โlogosโ or reason, Rubio laid bare the Trump administrationโs naked imperialist agenda: โUnder President Trump, the United States has made its choice. We choose the unapologetic pursuit of national power: to take back control of our critical supply chains, to reindustrialize our economy, to rebuild our defense, to fight for dominance of the technologies and industries of the future.โ
Rubioโs visit came amid rising tensions between Greece and Tรผrkiye, also a NATO member, with both nations lining up behind US imperialismโs aims.
The historic rivalry between the Greek and Turkish bourgeoisie over the Aegean and Cyprus has sharpened since the discovery of gas reserves in the region, with the countries coming close to war in the summer of 2020.
Plans for the โGreat Sea Interconnectorโ cable to connect Cyprusโs electricity to the rest of Europe have stalled after Tรผrkiye objected that the cable would cross into waters off Crete that both countries claim. Anxious to keep US imperialismโs flank in the Eastern Mediterranean intact, Rubio refused to be publicly drawn into the dispute, saying it is โbest handled through private diplomacy, outside the setting of press conferences.โ
Alexis Tsipras led the pseudo-left Syriza (Coalition of the Radical Left) government in 2015โ19, which imposed brutal austerity, and now leads the Greek Left Alliance (ELAS), established in May. Commenting on the cable dispute, he struck a nationalist tone, stating that Rubio took a โPontius Pilateโ stance in refusing to back Greeceโs claim.
Tsipras slammed the decision to allow Rubio to speak at the Pnyx, which he claimed was incompatible with โGreece as the birthplace of democracyโ given that the MAGA movementโs โpositions were at times completely borderline with regard to the issue of democracy and sovereignty.โ He then boasted of his own decision as Greek prime minister to invite French President Emmanuel Macronโknown as the โpresident of the richโโand former US President Barack Obama to speak there, with Obamaโs address scuppered by security concerns.
Tsipras and the affluent layers of the middle class for which he speaks have no problem with an imperialism that conceals its predatory aims by draping itself in the language of democracy and human rights. In practice, such niceties are junked once the pseudo-left comes to power. It was on Tsiprasโs watch, and during the first Trump administration, that the Greece-US Strategic Dialogue was initiated in 2018, laying the groundwork for the subsequent upgrade of US imperialismโs presence in Greece.
Absent from Rubioโs visit was the verdict of the Greek working class, the overwhelming majority of whom oppose the wars in Ukraine and Iran and the genocide in Gaza. There is no progressive outlet for these sentiments. The only protest to take place was a 2,000-strong march on the US and Israeli embassies on October 6, called by the All Workers Militant Front (PAME)โthe trade union federation affiliated with the Stalinist Communist Party of Greece (KKE)โalong with sections of the trade union bureaucracy and various pseudo-left tendencies. The trade union bureaucracy in the main Adedy and GSEE federations refused to mobilise its members against the visit.
The urgent task facing Greek workers and youth is building a genuinely revolutionary party that rejects the nationalist outlook of the pseudo-left and the trade union bureaucracy, and is capable of uniting Greek workers with their counterparts in Tรผrkiye and across the world against the imperialist powersโ war drive.
>>2940452Have you been to rural america? Or detroit?
Most of the country is shit third world levels
>>2940399He's been taken into custody. Good thing he didn't shoot himself.
>>2940462People only know this place from TikTok reels and High School Musical
lolbert ran out of coins
>>2940448Wow that su-
>new york daily newsare you fucking with me
>>2939945I've already voted six times, hbu? Might do it a bit more tomorrow I dunno tho.
>>2940485dropsite reported it….
>BREAKING: Trump: I don't want to drive housing prices down. I want to drive housing prices up
>>2940475>neoliberalyeah sniffing cocaine is bad for the brain. you can look at the insane text posted by a cocaine user.
>>2940462pic 1: one of the more neglected parts of Detroit, Michigan
pic 2: near Lagos, Nigeria
I will let the anons judge whether your statement is correct >>2940512
Cause the USA is shitty
>>2940506Chagos anon was from Mauritius, not even the Chagos archipelago
>>2940475Sorry, the best they can manage is having a dance off in government mandated free speech zones
U.S. Poverty Rate Hits 28.9% as Rent, Groceries and Utilities Crush Household Budgets
Poverty has more than doubled since 2020, with nearly three in ten Americans struggling to afford basic necessities
The United States poverty rate has reached 28.9%, up from 12% in 2020, according to figures released Monday in this alternate-history scenario. The rate briefly approached 30% earlier this year, reflecting six years of mounting pressure on household finances.
Housing and food costs have become central drivers of the crisis. In major metropolitan areas, a one-bedroom apartment that rented for $1,200 per month in 2020 can now cost $1,950, while average monthly grocery spending for a family of four has risen from approximately $800 to $1,250.
Electricity and heating bills have also climbed, with some households paying $250โ$350 monthly for utilities during periods of extreme weather. Gasoline prices of around $4.20 per gallon have further increased commuting costs, particularly for workers living far from employment centres.
For a household earning $35,000 annually before taxes, a $1,950 monthly rent payment alone consumes roughly two-thirds of gross income. After groceries, utilities, transportation and healthcare expenses, little remains for savings or unexpected emergencies.
The figures have intensified pressure on Washington, where lawmakers remain divided over expanding housing assistance, increasing the minimum wage and strengthening federal benefits. Democrat legislators are demanding greater public investment, while republicans argue for employment growth, private-sector construction and more targeted assistance.
Economists warn that the headline poverty rate requires careful interpretation, particularly regarding whether the figures use a consistent income-based or supplemental poverty measure. Nevertheless, a sustained increase of this magnitude would represent a profound deterioration in household economic security.
With nearly three in ten Americans now below the poverty threshold in this fictional scenario, the immediate challenge for policymakers is reversing the decline in living standards before housing insecurity, household debt and reduced consumer spending cause further economic damage.
>>2940569I've been arguing about the poverty level in the U.S. so much with neolibs I feel like a fucking crazy person sometimes. We see headlines like this every day and every single person I know talks about how rough it is out there, but then you get these fucking shills who're like "Erm, excuse me? Have you looked at the data? Things have never been better than they are now!"
Like I've literally pointed out before how much easier it was for my parents generation doing the same work as me to be able to afford a house, and I just got straight up told "well you're wrong, the data shows that you have it so much easier than previous generations!"
And Trump's out there boasting about "how much money we're making" and its clear that he's entirely internalized America as his rich buddies and him. You'll see these midwestern types go all "well we wanted the country run like a business!" and it is! You're not the fucking stockholders in this business, you're the employees.
It's just driving me up a wall.
>>2938367that would imply FDR (xi) supporting hirohito (putin)
>>2940576i cant tell if this is a joke about pearl harbor being a false flag or somethin else
midterm predictions?
It might actually be over for MAGATards but they always seem to overperform over the polls…
>>2940581Everyone should vote Republican.
>>2940583This everybodi on the site should vote republicans so they can continue destroying the usa
>>2940573Ah, I see that you have encountered a Bloodless Quant in the wild
>>2940569>in this alternate history scenario.If you actually google the headline all the results say poverty is at an all time low, but this 'alternate history' feels closer to reality
>>2940594>Freedom Burger Institute downgrades Burgerstan Funny that the propagandists can't even keep up the charades to such an extent but funnier even that their ideology makes them think anything has truly changed in the last few years.
I'm not even sure exactly what changed that made them lower the US's score, my guess is it's Trump beefing with MSM whore-nalists. Because to the media class, getting pats on the back for legitimizing imperialism is what's important in their ratings. I doubt stuff like the shit ICE does even registers in their score
>>2940570>>2940573you don't read past the headline, don't you?
>>2940611someone has read the article.
also:
>in this fictional scenario.What is true is that america's inequality is on the rise:
>Recent federal data shows that wealth inequality continues to grow. The top 1% saw their share of wealth increase from 31.7% to 32.5% just between the first and second quarters of 2026, a jump of over $8.5 trillion. That caps a steady climb from 30.9% in the last quarter of 2024 โ and from 27.4% in 1999.https://theconversation.com/us-inequality-is-getting-worse-in-ways-you-might-not-expect-294075 >>2940594I am glad that "democracy" can be counted in raw numbers and the higher the number the more demokkkracy you have
>>2940624
I've heard so many jokes over the years about how JFK won because of ballot stuffing in Chicago. Never really looked into it tho. If it did happen, why not elsewhere too?
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>>2940594>>2940623>>2940624democracy index and corruption index are liberal scams, produced by liberal institutions. the us was close to a democracy when fdr was alive.
and this concept of indirect democracy used in the us, it's the opposite of democracy.
and the only republicanism exercised it's the one proclaimed by james madison.
>>2940634
suspendisnuts.
>>2940641
>>2940640
How much money do you spend on VPNs?
A couple of hundreds a month?
>>2940644whatever kash patel gives him.
>>2940641recalibrate your LLM. it lost the plot. remember your original story was that getchan has l*li thread and leftypol is friends with getchan therefore everyone who posts on leftypol is p*do. now you are saying getchan "raids" leftypol which doesn't make sense. fix your text robot, alligator.
>>2940640
bro idk wtf wormhole is, i aint clickin that shit.
>>2940630janitors are also non productive services but nobody working in commodity production wants to sit down in a shit smeared bathroom
>>2940647Correct, non productive labor =\= useless, parasitic, or unnecessary labor
>>2940656
jewish nigger faggot
Remember when schizoposting was ThingNoticer having a meltdown over Jimmy Neutron? I miss those days.
>>2940630this bait would make sense if marx was a liberal concerned with returning the property of labor on a petit-bourgeois basis and only insofar as production goes
>>2940630stinky rotten bait
This is literally just the barista meme again, but slightly more theoretical
question for leftypol: industrial workers in the 20th century were considered revolutionary because they were a huge chunk of workers and had the most leverage over production and the economy if they didn't show up
with all industrial production outside the country, which section of workers has the most leverage and can do the most damage if they don't show up? Childcare workers/teachers? If they go on strike the parents have to stay home too, double whammy
Little to no industrial production exists here. Not enough to cover the deficits accumulated by the people, America simply consumes more than it produces. How can this problem possibly even be solved without the future american socialist project being integrated with china to a certain degree
>More than ever, Lenin struck me as a happy man. Walking home from the Kremlin, I tried to think of any other man of his calibre who had had a similar joyous temperament. I could think of none. This little, bald-headed, wrinkled man, who tilts his chair this way and that, laughing over one thing or another, ready any minute to give serious advice to any who interrupt him to ask for it, advice so well reasoned that it is to his followers far more compelling than any command, every one of his wrinkles is a wrinkle of laughter, not of worry. I think the reason must be that he is the first great leader who utterly discounts the value of his own personality. He is quite without personal ambition. More than that, he believes, as a Marxist, in the movement of the masses which, with or without him, would still move. His whole faith is in the elemental forces that move people, his faith in himself is merely his belief that he justly estimates the direction of those forces. He does not believe that any man could make or stop the revolution which he thinks inevitable. If the Russian revolution fails, according to him, it fails only temporarily, and because of forces beyond any man's control. He is consequently free with a freedom no other great man has ever had. It is not so much what he says that inspires confidence in him. It is this sensible freedom, this obvious detachment. With his philosophy he cannot for a moment believe that one man's mistake might ruin all. He is, for himself at any rate, the exponent, not the cause, of the events that will be for ever linked with his name.
>>2940729lmao they will shift all the blame onto him and he will go to prison
>>2940725Telling the truth is a problem now? I'm sorry, i thought this was AMERICA.
Twitter is an extremely minoriterian website yet every yank 'insurgent left' campaign seems to exclusively hire from this tiny pool of massive freaks. It should really clue you in to something that's going on here. >>2940742
>Oil workers and people who work in energy
no leverage in a service economy driven by consumption. this isn't the middle east
>>2940724Logistics workers like warehouse workers, delivery drivers, truckers etc. Any highly specialized positions possess chokepoints which can be taken advantage of as well. The problem in a lot of those cases would be legality of the action taken and the outward legitimacy of certain actions that may inconvenience people besides the bourgeoisie.
>>2940742>>2940743>>2940724Itโs logistics workers, truckers, warehouse workers and forklift drivers. Thatโs why Teamsters is still extant and ALU was even birthed. Thatโs if you take the view that the above are still part of the manufacturing process as the process doesnโt end until any given product is at a storefront.
>>2940746
Itโs just 40% if weโre strictly talking oil, fossil fuels overall is at about 80%, with nuclear and renewables around the margins
How Castroโs Cuba Ends
The Collapse of Cuba
Hunger. Sickness. Blackouts. Abandoned streets. The withering of the state is shocking to behold.
https://archive.is/Lvu8g>>2940746
oil can simply be imported from another porky nation on the cheap and its only getting cheaper thanks to chinas solar revolution. oil workers have no special revolutionary potential
>>2940752Thereโs no particular sector of workers that has more or less revolutionary potential
>>2940752man, if you don't know about a topic, read about the topic before saying dumb shit.
these threads aren't a competition to see who replies first or who replies the latest reply.
because you can be
Anonymous but publicly displaying ignorance doesn't absolve you from mockery and public shame.
>>2940724100% the MIC workers walking out would be catastrophic for the US.
Followed by
>>2940742 >>2940730It can't but it's also not China's problem.
>>2940769The issue is MIC workers arenโt productive, as weapons are instruments of destruction and not raw materials for other processes, and they have no incentive. Outside of tech, MIC workers easily have the best pay and benefits packages available to any American worker.
>>2940766obviously there is. dont tell me raytheon engineers are just as valuable as longshoremen
>>2940767wtf are u babbling about schizo
>>2940775Someone has to consume Chinese products and no other consumer market is as large or ravenous as the US, like it or not, the US and China are siamese twins
How Trump's America Ends
The Collapse of America
Hunger. Sickness. Blackouts. Abandoned streets. The withering of the state is shocking to behold.
>>2940775it is not Chinas responsibility to help the socialist project here, I get that, with that said though its socialist industry can't be as big and globally competitive as it is without export markets to dump its commodities
>>2940769catastrophic? not exactly, with no high tech military export industry america sinks to the level of the UK, we need more than that
>workers aren't productive
trolling is a art.
>>2940781It would literally not be in their interests, they need America as an ever consuming place to dump their exports and any sort of socialist revolution would mean American reindustrialization. It would be the sino Soviet split all over again.
>>2940785Is a mechanic productive? Is a nurse or a janitor productive?
>>2940786>any sort of socialist revolution would mean American reindustrializationno it wouldn't. technological progress has brought us passed that, we will never again have a society where more than a small fraction of workers work in heavy industry
>>2940787depends on definitions and how you calculate the numbers tbqh
>>2940787sells labor?
yes: productive โ
no: not productive โ
>>2940790eh, it depends on a lot of things we can't really predict in terms of the rest of the world. My bet is that any socialist revolution involves a civil war that tears apart the country, maybe for good. Right now there are just too many hyper-reactionary people who are like trying to reason with rabid dogs, they will fight to the death to never allow socialism. In that scenario the rest of the world might (justifiably) leave the great satan to it's misery and cut the US off. The new nations in the space of the former USA may want to reindustrialize. We'll be like the new Africa of the world, ignored but exploited for resources
>>2940793So prostitutes are productive?
>>2940801yeeeap.
sex workers would be the sociological term that categorizes that they sell labor.
>>2940800The issue is a second civil war wonโt be states breaking off and forming coalitions along state lines, it will be every city against most of the countryside. It would look like the Syrian Civil War but across all of north America and with militias trading nukes assuming any of them are operational.
>>2940801sex is socially necessary so
>>2940800not even going to entertain this stupidass crystal ball reading
>>2940808
Itโs probably necessary and cosmically just but would really really really suck to live through
the concept of "productivity" is, for some marxists, haunted by capitalist individualism, including in some ways for Marx himself.
The idea that the best way to look at productivity is to try to look at the before and after states of each worker's individual labor is just trying to cling to some kind of platonic microcosm of work and denies the simple fact of societal division of labor.
A regenerator in a thermal chemical stage does not in any way directly add to the output of the plant but greatly boosts energy efficiency, directly leading to a greater amount of output for a certain given input of energy. Training and tools given to mechanics to keep machines and vehicles operating longer increases the amount of steel and plastics and aluminum and electronics available not consumed in replacing losses. Nurses and doctors who can get working-age people back into the workforce are preventing society from losing work-years each time.
Take a leaf out of engineering instead of trying to reply to fucking Adam Smith for the one billionth time.
>>2940812But have you considered I have an egotistical need to look down on blue haired baristas and the uber eats driver delivering my moo buu gai pan?
>>2940812The problem with this analysis is you come to conclusions that managers and foremen are necessary and mine is a big meanie face when I mess up at my job and I donโt like that
>>2940825
Link a source or suck my dick
>>2940828
Gem?
>>2940834
stop it
>he gets his news from suckmydick.com
>not suckmyballs.com
>>2940801If the generate profits for a pimp or brothel owner then yes.
>>2940841itโs lickmyballs.com you fucking fraud
>>2940852I seriously doubt it's going to be recycled, it was just some penny pincher and maybe also "hur it's an evil russian jet"
>>2940852just your normal imperial decline burning of libraries and loss of culture and knowledge
>>2940868americans are fat and eat burger
>>2940868It was like 15 tan suits
>>294086410/10 dem consultant ragebait
>>2940785>>2940787Yes, the anon was trolling, but service labor not engaged in commodity production does not
produce surplus value for a capitalist, therefore it is not
productive as defined by Marx or Adam Smith. The confusion is thinking they ever meant "productive=based&good, unproductive=cringe&bad".
>>2940793>sells labormarx distinguishes between selling labor-power (commodified labor) and labor-in and-of-itself.
>productive vs. not productivereminder this is a category he inherited from smith and anyone using "nonproductive" as a pejorative is an idiot. the category of "productive" refers to whether a particular type of labor produces surplus value for a capitalist or whether it is paid out of the stock of profit taken from other kinds of labor. Service labor is necessary for society to function, but according to marx the wages for service labor is taken out of the surplus value already taken out of commodity production. So service workers are "non productive" not in the colloquial sense of "working hard" but in these sense of whether they produce surplus value or not. So all the bait about teachers and doctors being the same as clowns and prostitutes can be firmly disregarded even if it's technically correct. The bait relies on confusing the "non productive" as an pejorative (insulting) category. No it just means you don't produce commodities whose sale gives the capitalist surplus value. It says nothing about whether you work hard or are needed for society to function. The domestic labor of Marx's wife was necessary for him to have the free time needed to write "Capital" while also having 7 children, even if it was
unproductive of surplus value. In fact Marx knows he himself was an unproductive worker because all the "wages" for his writing was in fact paid out of the surplus value Engels took from his factory workers.
>>2940735> every one of his wrinkles is a wrinkle of laughter, not of worrymmmmmmmmm doubt. his life was full of stress. this is a very romantic and dare i say tolstoyan passage. it reeks of hagiography. and i like lenin.
>>2940908I remember making this like 2-3 years ago when he was crashing out ITT. Good times, I kinda miss how entertaining his antics were compared to the AI spam we get now.
>>2940864The worst thing about a genocide is how much it costs the average Amerikkkan
>>2940913For the American it is, Iโd rather keep my money and have a one secular Palestine state, hell Iโll take Israeli โrefugeesโ as neighbors if thatโs what it takes
>>2940913Sarcasm is unbecoming of you. No, I don't think anyone on here would sincerely say that the worst thing about genocide is how much it costs Americans, but the fact that it does cost Americans anything, is a repudiation of the idea that it benefits them, and therefore it is in their material interests to support their ruling class, who really do profit from genocide. Let us not validate the imperialist dogma of trickle-down-economics in an effort to overcorrect the lackluster performance of Americans to partake in anti-imperialist struggle.
>>2940916>Sarcasm is unbecoming of you. No, I don't think anyone on here would sincerely say that the worst thing about genocide is how much it costs Americans>>2940916>For the American it isGod damn it lol. that's what I get for not refreshing before making my post
>>2940921I just want the bullshit to be over and the money going somewhere else, preferably back to me, if I have to suffer through having zionist neighbors that donโt have a state itโs fine. They can blast their shitty music and Iโll buy their dumb pastrami sandwich.
>>2940913If you were born in America, you are forced to pay for genocide one way or another, either by consuming products or paying taxes. Should people not be angry when they are forced to pay even more for it?
>>2940926you are forced to pay taxes, you are not forced to buy sabra hummus lol
>>2940926The Amerikkkan state is getting a lot of money by killing people and annexing their land.
>>2940930Money the average consumer won't see. Only piggies.
>>2940932That really has nothing to do with the genocide but the wider capitalist super structure
>>2940934So is the working American benefiting from the wider capitalist system or from the genocide in Palestine in particular? Iโm not Jewish so I canโt lay claim on land in the west bank or golan unless theyโve opened it up to converts of the Noahide faith.
>>2940935You're moving the goalposts now. I told you that the amerikkkan government is making a lot of money from genocide. Telling people they lose from genocide is just objectively wrong. They are poor either way.
>>2940941I think I misunderstood you from the jump, I thought you meant ordinary americans were benefiting from the actions of the American government here
>>2940942Jewish Amerikkkans are for sure benefiting a lot from this genocide, but I really doubt the average worker sees any benefit besides workers of weapon manufacturers and the amerikkkan unions who fall behind to keep contracts to zionist organizations
>>2940943Good news is union density is less than 10%
I think it's interesting that we now live in such a "global" society united by communications tech that we find ourselves upset by what goes on far away. If you had told a Mongolian that the actions of Genghis Khan led to bubonic plague spreading to Europe and killing half the population there, they would have said "what the fuck is europe?" and then killed you and catapulted your dead body over a wall.
>>2940946Didnโt the Khanate border Poland at its height? They knew what Europe was even if was only through pottery or pickled olives or something
>>2940946it's beautiful and good that global communications have enabled the expansion of our sympathetic circles. of course our ethical and moral frameworks have evolved with time and improving material conditions too. and that is also good.
>>2940913Generally speaking, moralizing about something isn't as strong as pointing out that your audience is getting screwed over by the issue. "The government is doing something bad, and YOU are going to have to suffer and sacrifice to maintain the bad thing the government is doing" is the double-whammy that gets people pissed off.
>>2940949It also expands and enables our worst impulses, just look at Israeli twitter or Facebook facilitating the ethnic cleansing of Rohingya in Myanmar
>>2940948a mongolian from the era of the black plague would not have thought europe as a single thing but as a bunch of trade routes leading to a buch of far away kingdoms where people looked and talked a certain way but weren't necessarily related to each other. they knew about the rus, and the general lands of pale mostly christian peoples but idk if they had a word for what we think of as "europe"
>>2940954This isn't me moralizing. Saying Amerikkkans lose something from this genocide is just a bad argument objectively, since they don't. Stopping "aid" or weaponry to Israel won't get them more treats. What you should argue is that the policies used on Palestinians have already spread to other minorities, and racial/ethnic supremacism always needs another boogeyman, and that boogeyman is never the bourgeoisie. Sure, I'd hope they aren't racist shits who love child murder, but you've got better odds of finding a unicorn than an Amerikkkan who isn't racist.
>>2940955do we even know what percentage of people are real. it's very possible the internet only appears to be a hate machine because of LLMs. oldfags will say the internet was a hate machine before LLMs, but what if the government has had LLMs shitting up the internet since the 90s and only recently did the technology fall into the hands of the average civilian. that's kinda how the internet itself worked. started off as ARPAnet and then only became civilian in the 90s. Neural networks and backpropagation were discovered in the 1950s and the limitation on using them effectively was hardware.
>>2940959but this is objectively false, not only do they lose the investment that could go into social spending or something like green energy jobs, the means of surveillance and military tech used in frontiers like gaza always ends up coming back to bolster the state at home and police the population. hell, you guys already have cop drones
>>2940966So you're saying it's nothing to worry about, got it.
>>2940959>you've got better odds of finding a unicorn than an Amerikkkan who isn't racist.i like how depending on the conversation "racist" is either personal prejudiced feelings held by an individual (as you are alleging it is right now) or it is a general system of injustice upheld by class society along racial lines, independent of peoples personal feelings (as is argued whenever someone denies having prejudiced feelings)
>>2940963What your false equivalency buys into is the narrative that Amerikkka can't afford to spend on its people, but the money is there and the bourgeoisie is hoarding it. The Amerikkkan state could easily pay for healthcare while spending money and selling weapons to Israel and its zionist allies. Despite its very deadly embargoes, Cuba can fucking bring healthcare and all the social necessities a working class would want.
>>2940973>All criminals are blackWow you're not actually supposed just come out and say that. Fucking racist prick.
>>294097125 years? Really? They've been poisoning AI models for that long?
>>2940969It can be both, don't know why that is so hard for your brain to understand. You can be racist on an individual level and also be celebrated by the systems for your racism creating a nice supremacist feedback loop that allows for example arabs to be seen as the ultimate enemy of the masterrace for 25 years now
dsa status?
Everyone is a racist kkkrackkka except me
>>2940987Thoroughly maxxzogging at the moment.
>>2940979A super intelligent decision
>>2940977we were talking about IDF training burger pigs…. anon keep up
>>2940962<Probably nothing to worry about, right goys? < (pic) greenblatt: "we train NYPD… ">>2940966>IDF training burgerpigs is well known, twitterfriend, here's an article about it from 2002>>2940968<So you're saying it's nothing to worry about, got it.>>2940971>no i'm saying it's so bad it's been happening for at least a quarter century. try to keep up.>>2940977<25 years? Really? They've been poisoning AI models for that long??????????
>>2941018>>2941020the end of the tweet is the news. it's OK my eyes also glaze over when i see a twitter screenshot and the anon doesn't elaborate
>>2940988That's exactly what a racist kkkrackkka would say.
>>2940978>It can be both,Didn't deny that for a moment, friend.
>you can be racist on an individual level and also be celebrated by the systems for your racism creating a nice supremacist feedback loop that allows for example arabs to be seen as the ultimate enemy of the masterrace for 25 years nowyes but i don't think finding a non racist amerikkkan is as rare as finding a unicorn
if you're just talking about the interpersonal prejudice kind and not the systemic kind. there are a great many millions of people who don't believe in the literal biological inferiority of other races, in fact such beliefs have to be taught, even if they objectively benefit from systemic discrimination due to positions of power and privilege they were born into. A person can be both, just one, or neither. But I think rhetorically people tend to oscillate between which type of racism they mean depending on the reply they get, because it's less of a analytical tool and more of a way to express frustration.
fixed a typo >>2940974Michael Hudson actually contends that the "guns and butter" economy of the korean war actually began the irreversible decline of american hegemony
>>2941051welcome back maradona
>>2940979-mr. president what are you going to do to address the raging rising of ineque-
<SMART INTELLIGENCE-but mr. presidente the peop-
<DIDN'T YOU LISTEN? NOT AI, SMART INTELLIGAYNCE-but mr. orange you concerned t-
<APPEALING SMORT INTERNATIONALE >>2941051dayum
>>2941054was maradona playin at 3
>>2941051votebanned from cod server for hax0rz
>>2941070too late, i already invested in this kid's future futbol career on polymarket
>>2938643Leftists are supposed to hate diasporoids for being lumpen scabs under capitalism. It's just that subcontinental leetcode monkeys are the most cancerous and widespread strain of them all.
>>2941081truth nuke
actual americans at least didn't choose to be americans and support imperialism, some of them are even good people
immigrants into imperialist countries actively choose evil, they're like "yeah they're robbing the rest of the world at gunpoint, it's fine as long as i get some of the spoils"
oh yeah they were forcing me to live as a normal person in a poor country, this was so horrible, i just had to move to israel, do you expect me to what, be a normal person? like those chumps? looooooooool
>>2940979SI will always belong to the Situationists in my mind
>>2938371Thought as a kid that India was right next to my state bc Indiana sounded the same and some girl from preschool said she was from India. Now I know it really is the same haha
>>2941085Just wait until Grok reads Debord and air strikes the datacenters
>>2941051Those goalies are shit. 5 year olds are such retards, smh.
>>2941093the prodigy is 3, that's what makes it remarkable.
happening
ASI AM. OTT DRYINI????
>>2941110That's only like the 5th time he's made that gesture on camera. Definitely a seasoned pro either way.
>>2941110smh, this is what they said would happen if we elected a woman. now look at where we are.
>>2941117>That's only like the 5th time he's made that gesture on camera. Definitely a seasoned pro either way. >>2941111hoo dawgy, lay off that liquor
>>2941110He's looking up into the eyes of the guy whose cock he's sucking. That's how you know he loves you.
>>2941077If it was up to me, I would never harm a hair on Donny's head in the revolution. But I would liquify all his sycophants.
>>2941151>>2941110look how far away that hand is from his mouth he's giving a horse a blowjob
that's Bubba
>>2941177
The ACP lost btw
Schizophenia
this uygha is failing at hacking the site G3G
JucheGOD did you see the newsmax article about you?
Also the feds are closing in on you posting your fent operation on a public website was a bad idea
>>2941198>>2941199You are talking to a bot. Newsmax doesn't write articles about bots.
>>2941200Meds check the bordy
>trying to scare a dying site full of 35 year olds with the LLM-generated equivalent of the navy seals copypasta
>>2941219I was just gonna say we have some pretty elite hackers in here now.
>>2941219I should have bet on social democracy, now I'm stuck with anarcho communism, what do I do
Has the leftypol twitter ever tweeted about this?
>>2397825>learning what izzat is because of Vivek's ad
they really wanna import the caste system into capitalism
Would you use a single tide pod to wash an entire motel's worth of laundry? I wouldn't because I'm not a slum lord, but my boss? He has specifically instructed us to only use one tide pod per load in this massive, industrial washer. Because if you're poor, you don't even deserve clean sheets? How could you? If your sheets are clean that's less profit for the capitalist.
>>2941236You can justify any anti-human behavior with that line "it's just business". you know damn well he wouldn't lay in the bed he makes for his customers. And they are paying customers, even if we are poor as fuck we still pay, we shouldn't be treated as subhuman because we can't afford just a little bit better.
The reason they don't want to work to rule? Because it reflects on them, not the boss. THe boss gets the money, the property, the assets, but who's putting out the sheets? Who has to hand a guest a dirty, barely washed towel or sheet? Me, or another front desk person, or the cleaning ladies. We wouldn't do that to our fellow man, we don't want that guilt in our hearts, but it's forced upon us by the boss man. It's deeper than just wage extraction, deeper than surplus labor value, the wage slave arrangement literally extracts your humanity and gives it to the people who profit.
>>2940949>it's beautiful and good that global communications have enabled the expansion of our sympathetic circlesIt also has done the complete opposite by allowing demonization of entire groups to be easier. The Haitian dog story would have never gotten traction if it wasn't for the ability to communicate that so easily
>>2941083Moralism final boss. I bet I know how you would react if I said "Ukranians didn't choose to be imperialist"
Republicans want nothing more than to rule over a pile of dust and ash. They do not care what <img src="
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One might wonder what is gained, beyond profit for the companies that run these charter schools, by gutting public education. I know people here in Florida who are looking to have families and raise children. Many of them say plainly that they do not feel comfortable raising kids in Florida. Young people want to live the traditional lifestyle Republicans talk about: get married, work, have a kid or two, hopefully buy a home. Buying a home, even for a family, is a pipe dream. But it is the American dream, and people are still pursuing it. You would think Republicans would want these people to stay in their state. You would think they would want to attract them. After all, they spend so much time and energy marketing this traditional lifestyle. Yet those same people are actively trying to leave Florida because of Republican policies.
Would you send your child to a school that does not mandate vaccinations in a country seeing measles outbreaks on a scale rarely seen in developed nations? I would not. Would you raise a child without a guarantee of a proper education? Maybe their public school has been defunded. Maybe you cannot afford a good charter school. Maybe they have special needs, God forbid, and no charter school will take them. What do you do then? What about the lack of family care and child care, the health care costs, and the lack of good jobs? What have Republican policies done to resolve any of these issues? They have done nothing. That is by design.
Republicans do not want to be the leaders of a well-rounded, well-educated democratic populace. They want to be tyrants ruling over ashes, dust, debris, and litter. We are all familiar with the litter caking our streets. You defund education. You mandate abstinence-only sex education. You pass "Don't Say Gay" bills. You mandate that police act as abductors, sending them into elementary schools to check papers and take children to concentration camps under the guise of immigration enforcement. You create an environment that necessitates brain drain.
The best and brightest Floridians leave. People who want to start families leave. People who want higher education leave. Many do not return. What remains is an undereducated populace that is easier to exploit. That ease of exploitation is the goal. Producing a quality society is not. Undereducated people are easier to exploit and therefore easier to profit from. You are willing to take a lower wage, work under the table, or accept minimum wage. You are less likely to fight back against wage disputes or wage theft. You are less likely to know your rights or understand how the civil process works. That is by design. It makes you easier to manipulate and easier to profit from.
Ultimately, Republicans, Democrats, and every other powerful player in our system are after that profit. Republicans are just the most open about it. Who is more willing to work minimum wage at Publix or McDonald's? Is it the well-educated mother going to school for her nursing degree, whose husband works an engineering job? Those dual-income, educated workers produce high economic value, and they typically move to blue states. Or is it the single mother who had her first child at 15, who never received proper sex education, who was denied an abortion, whose child's father is in and out of the Polk County Jail for nonviolent drug offenses? Do you think she will fight back when her minimum-wage job deducts hours she worked? Do you think she will know how to handle such a dispute? Probably not. That is by design. Her poverty and her children's poverty enable business owners who vote Republican, and their Republican representatives, to exploit her harder.
A society made up primarily of criminalized fathers and single mothers working fast food cannot achieve greatness. This is not to denigrate those people. Their circumstances are a product of capitalism, and any socialist policy should uplift them. But the policies and rhetoric of the Republican Party, the principles these people operate under, directly produce those circumstances. Those people directly benefit from them. It is deeply ironic that they wear their hypocrisy on their sleeves. The people who enable the circumstances that create single mothers, children born out of wedlock, and poverty are the same people who harp on about Christian values, Christian nationalism, and Christian whatever else. Yet every day in this country, thousands of people go to bed without shelter, without food, and without a proper education. Some cannot even read. Many are here in Florida.
The Republican Party's solution is to disappear the examples of its incompetence and hypocrisy. Criminalize them. There cannot be money for child care, health care, schools, libraries, or public infrastructure like highways, bridges, and railways. There is no money for any of these things, the things that make a nation strong and a society worth living in. But there is always money for police, prisons, parole officers, and drug testing facilities. We are told we cannot allow the poor to buy hot food at the 7-Eleven or have a meal between shifts. But there is always money for the drone program and Flock cameras. Without the things that make a society, or as LBJ said, a Great Society, what is left but dust and ashes? What is left but the rubble and ruin of your own hubris? We see that rubble and ruin every day.
Republican societies are not good societies to live in. If they were, people would not leave them to raise their children elsewhere. Republican societies are barely societies at all. A society cannot be based on the ethos of "fuck you, got mine." And "fuck you, got mine" is the ethos of the Florida Republican Party. If there ever was a byword, slogan, or set of principles for a group, "fuck you, got mine" would apply to the Florida Republican Party. Ashley Moody stole $10 million from sick children. The matter is still being processed in court. But I have been told by Republicans, by Ashley Moody supporters, by people who espouse the "fuck you, got mine" ethos in their heart of hearts, that they would have stolen the money too. That is part of being a politician. You look out for number one. If you could get $10 million, even from a foundation helping kids with cancer, would you not take a little off the top? How can a society function when that is the underlying ethos, the foundation of our spirituality and our way of being? It cannot.
I will not tell you this is the most important election of your life. Or will I? I will not tell you your vote counts. It probably does not. I will not tell you that getting to the polls will make a difference. It probably will not. Many people in the audience cannot vote. Many people who read what I write are felons, are transient, lack an address, lack a way to get to the polls, or cannot take off work. I understand. But I must say this. If we want to live in a society worth living in, if we want community, solidarity, and humanity, if we want a world where empathy is seen as a core human value and not as a weakness, we cannot support Republicans in any way, shape, or form. We cannot support conservative policies. We cannot support the hypocrisy of these so-called Christians. If you can vote and plan to vote, vote for a DSA candidate. Vote for Angie Nixon. When Angie Nixon talks about free child care, Medicare for All, infrastructure, pulling money out of Israel, and opposing wars of conquest and profit for weapons companies, she is talking about what it would take to make a society worth living in. Right now, under Republican control, Florida is not worth living in.
>>2941236Why not just buy cheap lidl offbrand ones then you can use double the amount for probably the same price as tide pods or wahtever.
>>2941228Lob off the โanarchoโ part
>>2941265Houdini, please see this post from Nixon (or perhaps more accurately, from her campaign)
https://bsky.app/profile/angieforfl.bsky.social/post/3myupo7dthx22One of the primary criticisms of the DSA is that they are here to shore up capitalism, that they are not a socialist movement but a movement to restore a welfare state. A US welfare state that historically was and likely will be fueled significantly by imperialism. Here we see an example already of a DSA candidate rationalizing a continuation of imperialism before they even have been elected!
How can we think this is any path to socialism when they can't contain their open salivation over the thought of jettisoning anti-imperialism the first chance they get? This is just one blatant example, the famous AOC "it was for defensive weapons" iron dome vote is another, there will certainly be more. Once anywhere near power they clearly see anti-imperialism as too much of a liability, that it jeopardizes the project, that doing any of the things they want isn''t going to be possible if they oppose imperialism.
If we have to rationalize atrocities-as-fuel globally to stabilize the lives of people in the US, (and the embargo of Cuba is an atrocity and characterizing Cuba as a dictatorship is the main justification of that atrocity) and nothing else is practical or possible with this approach to politics, then doesn't that already show the futility of this approach to politics? The main defense I hear from DSA people is that once they build a constituency with popular reforms that will open up new possibilities. How can we build a constituency with one political approach (liberal/progressive but imperialist) and then have that magically become an anti-imperialist one? Won't that mean we'd be telling the voters to sacrifice after building a base of them on giving them better conditions through the very thing we are trying to heel turn on? Obviously that "we'll oppose it later" idea just won't happen, we will always be an election away from the Republicans getting elected. If the DSA believes in democracy then why is their idea for opposing imperialism essentially an act of manipulation and trickery? "Run on one thing and then show your TRUE colors later", not democratic!
This isn't just a nit pick about one topic vs all the other ones, imperialism is the PRIMARY CONTRADICTION OF US SOCIETY. The case you are making for Nixon is based on the acts of Republicans towards the education system for example, the thing is this is not just a moral act of bad people but a structural process relating to a decline in the rate of profit. Imperialism is a major reason why there are these other things that need fixing that people like Nixon rationalize prioritizing, you can't just separate it. If we get diminishing returns from imperialism then we cannibalize what we have at home, it cuts both ways, the harm and trauma and devastation we are trying to reverse is not in a vacuum separate from imperialism and trying to fix it by renegotiating how the loot is split isn't even enough! You'd have to get those returns from imperialism back up to get the standard of living to rise in the US the way people like Nixon want to, or you would have to imagine a post-imperialist economy and strive for and run on that. You can't just pick imperialism off of the slice of pizza and ignore it and still call it socialist pizza, you are making a different type of pizza and you have to justify your new flavor of pizza and the DSA is just tripling down yelling "it's socialist pizza don't believe your lying eyes"!
>>2941336Houdini openly promotes Neo-Nazi orgs on his website, are you remotely surprised by his vehement support for the largest of such orgs in the United States?
>>2941336>imperialism is the PRIMARY CONTRADICTION OF US SOCIETY.Imperialism is one of many contradictions the USA has. It is not THE primary contradiction by a longshot.
>>2941340oh yes it is motherfucker what the hell are you smoking
>>2941340You tell em goy! What do the lives of the billions of exploitable slaves in the imperial periphery matter, so long as we get our fill of treats?
>>2941342>treatswe're in the middle of a trade war fool, with tariffs as high as 200%. take your free trade ass back to Latam or Europe
>>2941346do you think imperialism is not related to the trade war?
>>2941348Americans are not allowed to import expensive treats like chinese electric vehicles or solar panels but free trade mexico, canada, Latam and europe can consume them just fine, Explain
>>2941350Awww boohoo youโre so deprived. Less funko pops for you goyim unless you vote blue!
>>2941351So less imperialist than our neighbors then, glad we agree
>>2941352another demsucc rationalizing imperialism with whataboutisms lol
>>2941353>strawman after strawman I would expect nothing less from leftypol
>>2941354ok here's an argument, the trade war was an effort to retrench the US position economically globally, at least that was the actual stated intention from the authors of it. Tearing up the status quo (that the US made in the first place) because the status quo was deemed unsustainable, trying to get countries to bargain individually (as in from a position of weakness) for deals favorable to the US and trying to force them to the table to do this.
If the stated intention is a lie there's many other speculations we can make, but any Marxist would understand the need to cheapen labor in capitalism and if we are getting diminishing returns from imperialism and can't restore that (or maybe as measure in the meantime as we attempt this) cheapening labor at home would be important, that essentially means shock doctrine. So I ask again, do you think the trade war doesn't involve imperialism and if so please actually explain why instead of whataboutisms.
>>2941351>deflects from not having an answer by getting upsetsad
>>2941341The hell are you smoking? You think the country selling itself from under isnโt a primary contradiction? You think racism tearing the apparatus apart isnโt a primary contradiction? You think unhinged nationalism leading to potential supply chain collapse isnโt a primary contradiction?
>>2941356trade = imperialism
trade war = no trade = no imperialism
stop pretending to be marxist everyone sees through the act
hell yeah about to have over $100 taken out of my check at work because I refunded a customer when I wasn't supposed to (I had no way of knowing I wasn't supposed to do that!)
>>2941362>be me>working front desk>just get into shift>customer is checking in>tell him there's a $100 security deposit>he becomes irrate, wasn't told about this, doesn't have the money, whatever>calmly let him know that we can also hold his ID at the desk if he doesn't have the deposit>he's not happy with this, demands to cancel the reservation, is now yelling at me>i tell him since he won't be staying with us, he'll be refunded>print receipt, he leaves>later, corporate for booking.com calls and requests I cancel the reservation (mind you this is 3am) without fees>i've done this exact thing dozens of times, it's never an issue>cancel the reservation without fees>a week passes>just now>get a call from the manager/accountant of the business>she tells me that we'll have to get the money from somewhere, she'll have to talk to my boss before she runs payroll >>2941363The glaze is unwarranted. Obama was showing his bourgeois snobbery here, not any real disdain for the bourgeoisie and private enterprise.
>>2941358>>2941358imperialism is the export of capital and the maintenance of favorable conditions for that export, it's not just "Trade" and when it falls apart it means that the rise in profits has to come from creating conditions at home much like what they wanted in the locations they were exporting capital to. If either of you (assuming you aren't the same person) were Marxists you would at least be thinking about the CONTEXT of the problems you are bringing up as separate and if you do you see how they are related to imperialism. If you get diminishing returns on investment at home the quick answer is you can either cheapen labor or seek lower costs elsewhere, if you start to see diminishing returns on investment abroad that sends a feedback loop home and you see cheapening of labor and withholding of investment, essentially the story of the decline of life in the US for decades now and an accelerating process today.
You want to distract from the primary contradiction by bringing up racism and nationalism, what's fueling that but the decline in the standard of living and what's fueling that decline? You bring up the country being sold and what's fueling that but a decline in the rate of profit?
>>2941366>>2941360meant to link this post
>>2941365>the wall street journal is dishonest>obama isn't really a socialistthis is shocking
demoblyats want to inherit the biggest crash since 1929 for some reason lol
>>2941367Hope he puts the money he's taking from my check in writing so I can file a complaint, which I won't do because whatever money he's taking is still going to be less money than the money lost from losing my job due to the complaint
he's already made it clear that employee mistakes have to be paid out and threatened this in writing before, but there's really nothing I can do because I need a job in order to stay alive
>>2941363What's next, using dijon mustard? putting on a tan suit?? what a sick individual
>>2941365>>2941373HE HAS BESMIRCHED THE SACRED GROUND OF THE HOLY CHEESECAKE FACTORY (even though he was making a jab at Saddam Hussein but Republicans dont seem to be offended by that part for whatever reason) AND FOR THAT HE MUST BURN
HANDS OFF THE FACTORY
WHERE WE GO CHEESE, WE GO CAKE
>>2941366>You want to distract from the primary contradiction by bringing up racism and nationalismImperialism is a primary contradiction, not THE primary contradiction. And bringing up the societal rot that trails nationalism and racism is by no means a distraction, nor do I comprehend how you even came to such a conclusion.
>what's fueling that but the decline in the standard of living and what's fueling that decline?The bourgeoisie and all their efforts to maintain their class.
>>2941366>imperialism is the export of capital and the maintenance of favorable conditions for that exporttrade wars prevents favorable conditions for imperialist exports, you're kinda arguing my point that it works against imperialist interests
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>>2941377>>2941376anyone who says heckin goyim herrenvolk treats in every post while making otherwise very boring and innocuous points that everyone always knows can be safely ignored as a provocative little gremlin
>>2941374>even though he was making a jab at Saddam Hussein lol fuck obama
>>2941363>>2941374Whatโs funny to me is Cheesecake factory is expensive as fuck. Itโs kind of like โeliteโ chain restaurant food. Itโs not sacred middle America prole slop like the dollar menu at McDonalds or Wendys
UGHHHHH I'M VOOOOOOTING AGAIIIIIN!!!!!
>>2941371>I can't believe the Democrats want to lose and be hated and prevent the Republicans from taking blameLMAO why
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