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>>2943429 >>2944901>Japanese Communismhas not been proven to exist
>>2944903What is this "real output per worker" measured in?
What are the units of this metric?
Why did it surge even before 2023, slowed down, then went up again?
>>2944901are the chinese communists also burger bootlickers for believing they're still leagues behind america in economic and militaristic strength
>>2944909>look mom, i changed the subject again and ignored everything you saiddie
VOTE FOR YOUR REPUBLCIAN SENTATOR IF THE DEMS WIN IN A LANDSLIDE IT WILL REVERSE ALL THE PROGRESS OF CAPITALIST COLLAPSE MADE UNDER TRUMP
I CALL FOR ALL THOSE WHO CLAIM TO BE COMMUNISTS TO VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR SENATE
>>2944903burger eagle gun institute says its index of freedom democracy epic basedness is 100000000000% for the USA and -019703948102935% for everyone else!!!!
(dont ask how the index is calculated fuck you)
DO NOT LET THE DEMS WIN IN A LANDSLIDE, LET THE DEMS WIN CONGRESS BUT NOT THE SENATE
>>2944913>>2944914nothing will get reversed you retarded chimp.
>>2944916senate is in congress, you mean house of representatives you absolute bafoon
>>2944902shhhh you'll spoil it for those who haven't clicked it yet lol
>>2944903Maybe because that's where most of the tech industry is, strip that out and the US economy is dog shit
>>2944922Trump has done more for communism in 2 years then dsa has for 30
>>2944924Hits different when the melody is a sample from a KINO (Victor Tsoi) song.
Giga chad has done more for communism than the DSA.
I can't wait for Trump's meltdown
>>2944936If there is a big D Texas win we're going to see a legendary melty
>>2944936its gonna be epicsauce
what do i do if i'm in line to vote but i have to use the bathroom?
>>2944927I need the normal speed version of him being mauled by the lion
>>2944936>I can't wait for Trump's meltdownwhy, it'll be the same boring shit as before. it was rigged. it was rigged. they stole it. this is the biggest ever steal. they did a hell of a lot of cheating.
which state's governor is he gonna call asking for more votes this time?
>>2944903what is productivity really? why is it good?
>>2944967
the usual social media nonsense I'd presume.
haley stevens has got a rack tho
>>2944946>why, it'll be the same boring shit as before. it was rigged. it was rigged. they stole it. this is the biggest ever steal. they did a hell of a lot of cheating.Except this time, he rigged state institutions with his croniesd so he can act on it instead on simply seething on Truth Social.
Based retard will do a coup so blatantly obnoxious he'll kickstart an actual revolutionnary movement in the US.
>>2945066
Ok LARPer
>>2945069
You aren’t. You’re just going to keep posting. You are a LARPer making shit up because you are mentally ill.
>>2945079
>>2945080
>REEEEE OUR BOTS REEE REEEE MUH MODS
lmao nobody is scared of your bots, people are annoyed at you.
>>2945084
>>2945083
Lmao no. You’re going to get tired after they all get deleted by the mods. Again. Lather, rinse, repeat.
You’ve done this for months on end, and the site is still here. All this pedo conspiracy nonsense is an excuse for you to LARP.
>>2945086
>if you think I’m wasting my time then YOU ARE SECRETLY MY WORST ENEMY AND MUST BE SHOT
Ahahaha oh wow you have NPD
>>2945015the jew fears the Mongol
>>2944915Lol cope and seethe
>>2944910>every nation is capable of developing proletarian vanguards and class consciousness.Proletarians are not automatically revolutionary. The workers in japan vis a vis their relationship with communist China are just as counter revolutionary as the workers In Israel
China will save the world for me. China is my dad
>>2945105China would crush worker councils anywhere
>>2945103Israel workers have kibbutz and are therefore more revolutionary than palestinian workers
>>2945120i cant tell if they added lassalle in like an ironic way to mock demsocs or if the video is earnestly demsoc
>>2944903>explosive growth in 2020, 3 years before chatGPT launch>anthropic only really got good at coding earlier in 2026, three years after the marked line>"in AI adopting sectors" whatever the hell that means>"real output" as if that was a well-defined measure>sweden somehow has matched the "surging" but claimed to not be this isn't very good propaganda
>>2945143That's the beauty of it: it's impossible to tell.
Have you vote, vote, voted yet /usapol/?
>>2945146idk man, the hitler institute for freedom says that the line has gone up
>>2945120>register to voot>get doxxedI'm good. Opsec is more important
>>2945015Temulun Togochog is a badass name. Genghis Khan's real name was Temujin Borjigin if I remember.
>>2945103>Proletarians are not automatically revolutionary. Uh huh. I agree. That's why I said "capable of developing" and not "has already developed." Don't you think that would be easier if burgers got the fuck out?
>>2945121>Undialectical drivelWatch video at least from 20:00
Zionism has something for everyone, they will even use communism to advance nazism because the zionist objective is a very concrete obsession. They are the ultimate single-issue voters.
>>2945155
I agree with everything you're saying about mental health and overusing the term schizo where it doesn't apply. I will try to cut back on that type of behavior. It is very hard to language police imageboards thoughever. Even if a couple of us keep your critiques in mind and try to misapply the term schizo less often, there will be dozens who either do not listen or double down out of the sort of spite for political correctness which defines this place in its very name.
>>2945173retard what do you think will happen when japan stops relying on american security? they'll acquire nukes and become militarily self sufficient. explain to me why China or south korea or taiwan or Russia (who never signed a peace deal with japan btw) would want this
>>2945180Mostly a matter of prediction then, are they going to use the nuke offensively or not ? If no, no real reason to stop them (or any country in the world really) from acquiring a nuclear device, if yes then yeah you don't want them to have it.
Israel already has nukes and didn't use them so far btw.
>>2945180>American imperialism must continue indefinitely in East Asia, the only country America ever nuked might get a nukeMeh. I think that is just as lame as fear mongering about Iran getting a nuke. America is the only country to ever nuke anybody. Japanese people are not genetically reactioanry. They are capable of developing their own proletarian vangaurds. As I have already stated several times, the American occupation of Japan has not been about suppressing reactionaries since 1945. If you're really anti-imperialist you will want to end American hegemony and American occupation of all regions of the planet, including "scary" countries where it's a coin toss whether they'll double down on fascism or not. Where's all the bluster about breaking eggs to make omelettes? Suddenly I say end American occupation of Japan and all the guys who are normally like "burn down amerikkkka" are like "ummm actually amerikkka is still stopping fascism from returning to japan and deserve to stay there forever, raping okinawans, poisoning water, and threatening china"
>>2945180China wants America out of Japan even more than the Japanese bourgeosie does LOL
>>2945180the anon you are talking to replied here btw
>>2945195 >>2945196
>RU
>DPRK
Can you provide some deets on this?
>>2945198China vastly prefers a dying empire on the other side of the planet neutering their only threatening regional power over the possibility of a rising militaristic Japan, this is obvious
>>2945192no such thing as a defensive nuke lmao
>>2944924Wait what? I though he was from Kazackstan.
>>2945180What difference does it make? If anything a contained Japanese commanded military will be less capable than a US one that can rapidly draw in assets from around the world. Also making Japan carry the cost of its own defence would slow its economy down which I'm sure China, South Korea or Russia would be happy to see.
>>2945225
>just do some digging on russian troll farms, bot services, cyber crime, how it ties to their states networks, and then study the same for the DPRK. You'll be shocked to see a lot of the most wanted DPRK hackers on the FBI websie have a web history of shit posts taunting the companies and people theyve targeted. a lot of them are probably low level people, who have a certain amount of individual freedom when not working.
Korean Language adds for /leftypol/ on hacking forums when?
>>2945211yeah it was in the previous thread. Ice on the wings did her and the 9 passengers in. I bet the plane didn't undergo proper safety inspections. A lot of corners being cut in aviation lately. You see doors flying off of Boeings n shit. I know this was a leerjet, but still. You see this with engineering disasters in general. Some kind of crash or derailment, employees in charge of comandeering vehicles are blamed, years later after tons of investigation, it is revealed capitalists are at fault, and nobody is held accountable. It's like a script that applies to 90 percent of these cases.
>>2945214if China and America ever went to war, Japan would be a major base of operations with which to threaten china. Right now Japan is zero threat to China, and America withdrawl would, if anything, make Japan more dependent on China. America's presence in the region can be summarized as:
- rape okinawans
- poison water
- keep comprador bourgeoisie in power
- prevent class struggle
- eat hot chip
- lie
>>2945219I meant as a first strike opening to a war as opposed to a passive detterent to war.
The ukr/russia war shows that there are also acceptable limits to detterence as long as conflict are done through proxies I will admit (my theory is that as long as the conflict is too close to your borders, you can't nuke the place without immense damage to the surrounding including yourself, which is why Ukraine and Iran are both standing there un-nuked)
>>2945229>rapidly draw in assets from around the worldthis failed to occur in Iran. the age of coalition interventions is over, american unilateralism ended it. in japan it was the Military that denied Takaichis request to assist in the gulf, By freeing up japanese militaristic interests you are ironically putting them in a better spot to wield imperialism abroad
>Also making Japan carry the cost of its own defence would slow its economy down which I'm sure China, South Korea or Russia would be happy to see.japanese military exports from their new industry would boost the economy dummy
>>2945214> a dying empire on the other side of the planet America has aircraft carriers in the South China sea. Getting big burger to leave is pretty much the only thing China, South Korea, and Japan agree on. The actual vast majority of regular people in Japan and South Korea want burger occupation to end. Only the comprador bourgeoisie say "Please rape me and poison my water some more, daddy yankee!"
>>2945246In our current situation, which country could japan "imperialize"? Aren't most ressources producers already under US and European companies ?
Second point is true
>>2945242>Right now Japan is zero threat to Chinashit americans love to say. china would disagree
<In November 2025, amidst the China–Japan diplomatic crisis, the Chinese embassy in Japan invoked the enemy state clauses, implying possible military action against Japan after Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi told the National Diet, in response to a hypothetical question, that a Taiwan Strait crisis could pose a "survival-threatening situation" for Japan justifying military interventionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_state_clauses >always always always always oppose amerkkkkan imperialism and amerikkkan occupation except when it comes to Japan, they might get a nuke or something
how do we know yankees haven't already given the comprador bourgeoisie in Japan a secret nuke as part of a potential regional exit strategy?
>>2945251I think your entire theory rests on the assumption that Japan would become both stronger and more reactionary without reactionary Americans occupying their country. But in my opinion American presence in any country means whoever is the most reactionary already gets the most support.
>>2945257>secret nukesLets be serious
>>2945263Khruschev gave Cuba nukes under the nose of the Americans. Why wouldn't America give Japan nukes under the nose of the Chinese? Israel developed nukes that no official entity keeps a count of.
>>2945150Choose between baby eater in blue vs baby eater in red. Hmm tough election
>>2945257Theres like 5 nuclear submarines with long range ballistic missiles parked off the coast of Japan and another 5 more korea.
>>2945266Japan, Korea, Germany, Brazil, Canada, Iran, are all threshold states, they could weaponise relatively quickly.
>>2945262I am just saying that while america is the most reactionary force on the planet, competition still exists between superpowers. ask the chinese people who the biggest threat to china is and they'll tell you either japan or india. ask who the biggest threat is in south korea and they'll also say japan. dont mistake this for apologia for american occupation but there are many forces at play here, and once america leaves (which it will at some point lets be real) and continues to abandon its role as the underwriter for the old world order all hell will break loose
>>2945250>In our current situation, which country could japan "imperialize"? Taiwan. If the ukraine war goes bad they can pick apart the Russian far east. many options
>>2945246>japanese military exports from their new industry would boost the economy dummyThe Korean military costs 3x what their defence industry exports, if anything Japan will be even worse.
No country's defence industry generates more money than that country's military costs.
You vote because you're brainwashed
I vote because I like stickers
We are not the same
>>2945276> ask the chinese people who the biggest threat to china is and they'll tell you either japan or indiajapan or india wouldn't be as big of a threat to anybody without the USA propping up the most reactionary forces in those countries. The best way to intensify class struggle in any country is to expel occupying forces that prop up a comprador class. That way the natural struggle between nationalist bourgeoisie and internationalist communists takes its natural course
>>2945283korea isn't imperialist. japan has a massive financial imperialist sector that loans out more money globally than americans. plus they don't have a massive DMZ to pay for. i think you are undersating the japanese ability to pay for shit
>>2945273an even better reason for burgers to leave
>>2944903I bet the output increase is only in programming and data gathering/data analysis fields.
>>2945289>japan or india wouldn't be as big of a threat to anybody without the USA propping up the most reactionary forces in those countriesdumb. india and china had huge border disputes without foreign intervention. china literally had a border dispute with 1979 and invaded them, are the vietnamese also burger controlled? lol. the reality is everyone hates each other, that's just how states are
>>2945103>>2945180>>2945214>>2945251>>2945276>>2945297
<japanese: yankee go home
>america: no you dont understand, i need to poison your water and rape your locals or else you'll threaten china, who i love very muchreally? that's the narrative we're going with?
>>2945297the sino indian war was in 1962, not 1979, and america actually did support india in that conflict LOL
source:
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1961-63v19/d174
<Since the Dhola activity began, the Government of India has made three requests for U.S. assistance in arranging for Indian purchase of spare parts and military transportation and communications equipment. Recognizing the connection with the border engagement, we have given the requests priority attention. >>2945300><japanese: yankee go homehow many of them actually say this? lets see some polling date
>>2945310i mistyped, i was referring to the chinese invasion of vietnam in 1979
>>2945214japan has a declining population, declining profit rates, and declining accumulation rates. they can't afford a real army, regardless of the american occupation. the americans are there to use the isle as a logistics hub from where to attack china
>>2945311do you think the average okinawan civilian likes US soldiers raping locals and poisoning water just because the comprador bourgeoisie like it?
>>2945308>have low interest rates because your economy is in the toilet for 30 yearretard alert. japan deliberately devalues the Yen by fucking with the interest rate through yield curve control to boost their exports and make them cheaper on the global market (doing so is against WTO rules but japan gets away with it because they're imperialist)
>>2945316this. i can't believe people ITT are defending US presence in a region as somehow the more anti imperialist option. baffling.
>>>/leftypol/2945312<but some crank made up this other definition of imperialism!k
>>2945318Yeah they're mentally ill cucks
>>2945311>how many of them actually say this?not enough but the number keeps growing because it's not 1945 anymore
>>2945325>they deserve burger occupation because they're cucks, and they're cucks because they're burger-occupiedcircular logic to justify the status quo award
>>2945316>the americans are there to use the isle as a logistics hub from where to attack chinathen why did they take out all their launcher systems from asia and blow through most of their ballistic missile interceptor inventories defending israel when it was supposed to be for taiwan?
>>2945324>lenin is a crankok lib
>>2945320*loud wrong buzzer*
surplus value, and thus profits, comes from variable capital. it's the difference between the value produced by a worker and the wage paid to them. when you have a declining population, the amount of variable capital (people you employ) will necessarily decline, and so will the average profit rate across the economy. the low interest rates are merely a reflection of this issue
>>2945331Because Israel is a higher priority than the US
>>2945312It's weird that nobody ever picks up on Lenin specifically calling Russia imperialist yet pretends he didn't.
>>>/leftypol/2945334>thenextrecession.wordpress.com>leninmade me smile
>>2945337interest rates are easily manipulated, and so are you seems like
2945343
go back to r/neoliberal
>>2945341because lenin made a clear distinction between usury (financial) imperialism and the kind of imperialism waged by the roman empire, just read his imperialism work already ffs
>>2945344>it's easy if you don't care about the consequencestrump levels of political genius
>>2945354everyone in asia devalues their currency stupid fuck. thats kinda why america keeps trying to implement shit like the TPP, to stop currency manipulation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yield_curve_control Hello America! Did you vote today?
anyone stupid enough to V00T today with no sctual socialist or communist on their ballot is not a true leftist.
>>2945352okay, Lenin was still decying Tsarist Russia as an imperialist power going against another imperialist power, I already read it
>>2945368so haiti invading florida would be an imperialist adventure that must stop at all costs?
>>2945371a materially impossible scenario. look at the absolute state of haiti. It has been wrecked by the USA for 2 centuries. the idea of them mounting an offensive against fucking Florida, which has several air force bases, and millions more people than Haiti, and more weapons, and more capital, is honestly laughable. but to entertain your harry turtledove tier alt history scenario. YES. if the capitalist government of haiti were actually capable of mounting an imperialist offensive to render another economy dependent upon them and stripped of sovereignty, yes, that would be imperialism.
>>2945371>so what about *implausible hypothetical*We can consider that when it happens
Meanwhile there are plenty of real imperialist wars being waged right now, chiefly by the US and Israel.
>>2945365leftypol assures me AI will crumble the american economy any day now, so in reality american interests in japan are a liability as opposed to japanese interests in japan
>>2945372>haiti invading florida would be imperialistlook at my marxist movement dawg
>>2945368Based Cuba when they launch their first drones strikes in Miami will imperialize those bastard gusano cubans.
>>2945374so no, not every war undertaken by a capitalist government is imperialism then, it is indeed a little more complicated, thanks for agreeing with me
>>2945372Was 9/11 imperialist?
>>2945357Not everyone in Asia is sitting on a 250% debt to GDP bomb ready to detonate at any point.
>>2945368>wars are good when I do them but bad when others do them, it says so in a book (that I wrote)wow how compelling
>>2945338>nuclear armed rhodesia for jews is a higher priority than the USAbleak
>>2945379not the same anon
>>2945380>Was 9/11 imperialist?yes because america did it to itself as a cassus belli to do more imperialism
>>2945338why do the global capitalist bourgeoisie prioritize the middle east over Communist China? are they stupid?
>>2945376yes, in anon's fantasy where haiti is stronger than florida, florida is a country, where haiti has more capital than florida, and is capable of doing imperialism in florida, yes, that would be imperialist. my god. he rigged the question to be as stupid as possible and i just yes-chadded him
>>2945390oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil v
>>2945314yeah that was cringe, i'm not gonna dive on that grenade for china
>>2945390Worse, they're jewish.
>>2945397>this retarded shit againeven if every last jew out of all 16 million jews alive on this planet were both zionist and bourgeoisie, the majority of bourgeoisie would still be gentile.
>>2945395the global bourgeoisie are cratering oil demand in the middle east at the same time china exports their solar panel revolution, porky is so goddamn stupid
>>2945393Exactly, anons fantasy war scenario makes no sense since no tiny impoverished Caribbean island state is going to invade a global superpower.
"Would it be an imperialist war with Haiti as the aggressor or not?" simply does not make sense to ask about something that couldn't ever happen because of all the material conditions which prevent it, yet anon thinks it's gotcha arguement.
>>2945383>Proles good, bourgs badWhat's the problem exactly?
>>2945398When was the last time you saw a gentile billionaire push for any foreign policy outcome? Venezuela was pushed by Paul Singer. Greenland was pushed by Ronald Lauder. Iran was pushed by basically every jewish billionaire. You just believe what you do because it keeps you in your comfort zone and is politically correct.
(USER WAS SCRIB DOON'D FOR THIS POST) >>2945390China can defend itself, middle east is easier
>>2945382>picseething lib
Isn't it current ML-ist theory to worship billionaires as pioneers on the economic front?
Crunk
>>2945410>no argslol, china wants yankee aircraft carriers out of the south china see. it wants burger rapist waffen out of japan and south korea. there is no scenario where burger troops occupying a country is preferable to burger troops getting kicked out. stop applying ww2 logic just because it's japan. the only way to intensify class struggle in japan is to kick out the burgers. burgers go home.
>>2945417i apply this same logic to US occupation of japan and i am called a liberal. USA must leave japan, even if japan is somehow "more fascist"
>>2945413rule 14 sectarian shit flinging dishonest question
>>2945407>When was the last time you saw a gentile billionaire push for any foreign policy outcome?trump
>>2945407Musk pushed all those too.
>>2945421I accept your concession.
>>2945417What about revolutionary defeatism?
Also Vargas was basically Deng Xiaoping in a way. A bourgeois statist who increased the public sector, and he had a lot of popular support.
>>2945416>stop applying ww2 logic just because it's japanget Naruhitos dick out of your mouth scum. the rules of imperialism have hardly changed since japan raped china en masse
>>2945407you can't refute my statement so you ignore it entirely and just go "jewish billionaires are zionist, you know" which i never disagreed with
here is what i actually said, which you will ignore again:
<even if every last jew out of all 16 million jews alive on this planet were both zionist and bourgeoisie, the majority of bourgeoisie would still be gentile.and i would even extend this statement, the majority of zionist bourgeoisie are gentile. there are literally hundreds of millions of zionists on this wretched planet, and only 16 million jews. it follows then, as a matter of mathematical logic which is irrefutable, that the majority of zionists are non jewish, even if every last jew were a zionist. so the entire base of support for israel comes from the hundreds of millions of protestant evangelical zionists in the USA. Standard Republicans and Democrats are 90% zionist just like jews. thank you for coming to my TED talk. you're welcome to have a real argument any time.
>>2945428>if you want burgers out of all countries, period, you must love the japanese, and have hirohito's cock in your mouthyou get more childish by the minute!
>>2945427>What about revolutionary defeatism?revolutionary defeatism is obviously the correct policy, if any nation on the planet declared war on america right now id want america to lose, but then you have fags in this very thread saying imperialist haiti should NOT invade the imperialist scumbags that enslave them
>>2945407Every last bourgeoisie should be knelt over a ditch and shot, whether or not they are Jewish. Agree?
Every last zionist should be knelt over a ditch and shot, whether or not they are Jewish. Agree?
Yes or no answer will suffice. No more obfuscation.
>>2945422>the retarded jewish puppet decided on these things of his own accord it had nothing to do with the documented lobbyingYou're just not paying attention. You probably didn't even know who Lauder or Singer were without looking it up.
>>2945423There's no evidence Musk ever persuaded the US government to carry out a foreign policy objective on his behalf.
>>2945432
>look mom, i'm contributing to the pointless noise, but in a like edgy and contrarian way
>>2945431no more childish than copypasting shit into an image editor and making memes in a rage
>>2945424not even ML. i just hate it when you fags are like
"why do MLoids/anarkiddies believe [obvious strawman]"
>>2945440burger occupation of all countries should end. period. you have no counter argument except to appeal to japan as somehow uniquely threatening and reactionary. it's not 1945 anymore.
>>2945435it's so hard for them to answer the question without special pleading
>>2945439Oh it's this jew again, you gonna post your mel gibson jesus image again? Go on, I know you want to.
>>2945447>Every last bourgeoisie should be knelt over a ditch and shot, whether or not they are Jewish. Agree?
>Every last zionist should be knelt over a ditch and shot, whether or not they are Jewish. Agree?
>Yes or no answer will suffice. No more obfuscation.
<YOU'RE JEWISH!!!!! NO I WONT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS!!!! FUCKING JEWS ALWAYS TELLING ME TO DENOUNCE ZIONISM!!!!!!answer the question or kys, makes no diff to me
>>2945436>When was the last time you saw a gentile billionaire push for any foreign policy outcome?>There's no evidence Musk ever persuaded the US government to carry out a foreign policy objective on his behalf.Pilpul.
>>2945444>no you don't understand, israel is the CEO and america is the workernationaloid logic
>>2945444>you're like this picture of a retarded hispanic guy or something, you fucking jewgod damn just go back to pol dude, your arguments are dogshit
>>2945442>you have no counter argument except to appeal to japan as somehow uniquely threatening and reactionarynot unique, just one example. same principle applies to Saudi Arabia and Turkey, they have already said they will get the bomb when american security can't be relied on anymore. If the Saudis/Turks get the bomb than Iran and Egypt have to get the bomb and it spirals from there. Same principle applies to Poland, once americas gone Poland has to get the bomb and if Poland gets a bomb so does Germany. The assumption is the world gets more safe once burger occupation ends but thats not the case
>>2945457the assumption is not that the world will be more safe, but that these countries can finally have revolutionary civil war between proletarian and bourgeoisie. if your goal is world safety from nuclear weapons, that's fine, but it has less to do with class struggle, no?
>>2945456He should go to "X" if he is going to dickride Elon,
>>2945363Things would be very funny that's for sure.
>>2945459>class struggleof course, but the new militaristic armanent thats happening has to be done in a way that doesn't jeapordize existing the existing socialist projects in china and cuba. in the case of the latter, how would Colombia acquiring nukes be of Cuban interest for example?
>>2945465A Latin american country getting nukes would mean the Monroe doctrine is over and open the possibility for actors there to not toe the us line and be friendly with Cuba. That said who cares about Cuba and China, socialism in one country failed, we're back at needing the revolution to get international and conquer as much of the (developed) world as possible instead of doing big CHAZ
>american imperialism good because poland would nuke germany or something
lol
>>2945470>AES countries are big chazThey were the closest to communism and for you it's not enough. Even if the whole world became communist, that won't prevent counterrevolution if some party decides to go pol pot and piss off a large portion of plebs. If your ideology needs the whole world onboard, your ideology does not work.
>>2945470two nuclear armed nations already control east asia and uyghas think japan/sk acquiring them too will help international communist revolution…sad
>>2945452Method of interpreting the talmud. It's 4chan lingo for complex mental gymnastics and hard to follow arguments. I think hitler used that term in mein kampf which is from where it became popular.
>>2945477*two nuclear armed COMMUNIST nations, excuse me
>>2945486america oppresses haiti, so any war fought by haiti on the imperialist nations would be a war of liberation
Crazy how American fascists had a once in a generation opportunity to consolidate power and lay the groundwork for stealing this election and permanently seizing state control and they completely fucked it up. They had all three branches of government firmly under their control, a rabid support base who would gleefully kill their own families if the President said so, unprecedented executive power, a completely demoralized and disoriented popular opposition, a very sizable chunk of the bourgeoisie backing them, literal paramilitary squads roving the streets, etc.
Truly bewildering levels of fumbling took place over the past two years.
>>2945492Maybe democracy and checks and balances really work after all…
>>2945494I think in this case we have pure, corn-fed American stupidity to thank
>>2945371>so haiti invading florida would be an imperialist adventureyes
>that must stop at all costsno
>>2945492>once in a generationtil: generation means 4 years
>>2945486Was oct 7th imperialism?
>>2945494>checks and balancesNo such thing. Can the judicial branch unilaterally command an army to take back control from a fascist dictator? Once the head of state tears up the social contract he signed, there is no diplomatic way back
>>2945502No, this was genuinely something else. Elon Musk dancing around and sieg heiling on the inaugural stage, the Supreme Court making it clear that Trump could do literally anything and they wouldn't fight him, ICE having the go-ahead to commit any level of state violence with complete impunity, Hegseth talking nonstop about how he was ready to basically fight a civil war against "communists", talk of mass deportation of leftist "terrorists", etc. I know the comparison might seem trite, but the parallel to ~1932 Germany is not off base.
>>2945491Platner was innocent and swamped by the deep state. I disagree with tracey on big E, but he is right on platner.
how did the vote ball go
>>2945514I was planning to vote but maga family said no go, so we stayed.
When will the results be in? I'm no burger.
>>2945515would captain sinbad vote dem for harm reduction or vote republican to own the faggots and accelerate
>>29455247 PM eastern time is when the first results should be coming in, so in about seven hours
>>2945526USAian here. I always just wait until the morning after the election to inquire about results, anything before that is unreliable
>>2945499so there are good and bad imperialist wars all of a sudden?
Gonna vooooooooooooooooooot in a little bit. Curious if ICE shows up to the polls. Will keep y'all in the loop.
i tried to vote by mail but i messed up my ballot by forgetting one of the pages and only realized after i already mailed it. whoops.
the only thing that matters in cali is prop 40 though.
>>2945506no because palestine isn't even recognized as a state by the international bourgeoisie. they have no sovereignty, no capitalist government. to the extent that there is a palestine at all, it is occupied, and the palestinian bourgeoisie, to the extent that they even exist, are either bombed out petty bourgeoisie with small storefronts, or israeli collaborators.
>>2945542>they have no sovereigntyneither does haiti but your imperialist ass demands them to sit on their hands and accept american domination instead of fighting back
>>2945543do you think I… never mind. you didn't read the conversation. that's the only way you could have come up with something so preposterous.
>>2945511that's business as usual
so who is winning?
>>2945525I guess we will never know but I was planning to secretly vote talarico for shits and giggles.
>>2945534Keep us updated leftychud. How are you getting along with iron felix btw?
>>2945476>If your ideology needs the whole world onboard, your ideology does not work.that has never stopped capitalism. the settlers that exterminated the natives to take their land had no trouble "onboarding" the world
if quads, 'pubs lose and have melty
>>2945554its over for democrakkkas
>>2945556>it's election day>politician makes announcement that sounds like something they wouldn't dohmmmmm
>>2945556if the anti-Israel right wing actually falls for this they may be the most retarded demographic of voters in the entire country. and that's really saying something
>>2945525its the opposite, democrats accelerate and republicans do harm reduction
we did it reddit. we won the elections
>>2945559>dumbest thing i've read in the last 30 days awardwhy do i even visit this damned site
>>2945560I don't think anyone on /leftypol/ is emotionally invested in the outcome (at least I hope to God no one is.) But elections are always interesting just as a general gauge for where the country is at socially and politically.
>>2945559this is true actually
>>2945561who was harm reduction during the first civil war? checkmate.
this is what i would say if i were retarded >>2945562it's a general gauge for which party the petty bourgeoisie is less pissed off at, that's it
Who's winning yankees
it's starting
>>2945583it will be a blue puddle
>>2945591we all say this
we all look like this
we all did it, reddit
>>2945556>Pivoting to anti-zionism at the last minuteMan, they're really DESPERATE.
>>2945550I don't really talk about or to Iron Felix until he makes another absurd threat he wont back up.
>>2945552>>2945551Capitalism does not need the whole world to exist. Capitalism started out small and eventually took over everything. But bordigafags and leftcoms say Communism needs to be implemented across the whole world otherwise it aint "real gommunizm". Zionism and Dengism prove Communism can be implemented locally and then expanded.
>>2945492The condition of their failure is a two fold success, in that the democratic institutional legislature and party process which barred them from consolidating further their power base has laid the seeds for their inevitable resurrection in the outright Fascist membership which has profited from its growth, primarily as a result of heightening social tensions and the paralysing economic crisis in existence based on the false reality of US financial capital and its burgeoning public debt (bank rolled by its now failing imperial mandate)
The seeds which now lay strewn as a result of the republican collapse tomorrow will lead to the rise of what people joke here as the Volk, perhaps in as little as ten years. Extremist currents propelled by a potential currency collapse in the dollar, as a result of the bursting of its massive financial bubble which subsumes every element of American social life, will force through measures which authority would be weakened without the desperation of absolute poverty. Crime, mortality, all current statistics and the failure in its for-profit healthcare system prefigure what is coming.
The collapse of Republicanism is the temporary elevation of an arthritic and broken opposition, to be inevitably succeeded by what faces every country (in time): Fascism proper.
>>2945601>>2945602>>2945605>>2945609>>2945603I laffed hso hard thsy at thes e im hyoerbebntilalting hahahahahhahahah
>>2945598Somebody please make a banner out of this absolute gem.
>>2945515You really need to say ´fuck you I vote´ and move on.
>>2945598Anti-imperialist gem
>>2945619Maybe I will. I don't believe in voting or wealth taxes so not sure it will help. Plus I don't want questions asking where I was.
>>2945506Yes, like the spanish civil war
>>2945621You know leftychuds, I was just stating an honest observation. No bait. Leftcoms can learn a thing or two from Zionism. It's called Blanquism iirc.
>>2945492People underestimate the strenght of liberalism. Accelerationism doesn't work cause the more radical and faster the right and its changes are, the more people want to return to the previous status quo, even tho said status quo created that radicalism in the first place
>>2945624>muh leftcumsAn spectre is haunting the anti-imperialists, dengists and ziggers of leftypol.
>>2945626>anti-imperialists is a bad thingJust come out of the closet already you nafoid.
>>2945627AlexAndrewa O'Jacksono Kkkortez?!?!
I am a liberal who just proudly voted straight democrat for James Talarico and Greg Casar. I just wanted to check up on leftypol to see if y'all were doing the same. The IRCG would love it if you voted blue, and Israel would hate it.
can anyone else confirm??
trump just declared war on cuba
>>2945632are we just having a baitfest today
>>2945632based. just did the same
>>2945638netanyahu is a communist warrior working ceaselessly for the liberation of the international proletariat
>>2945643>The Communists fight for the attainment of the immediate aims, for the enforcement of the momentary interests of the working class; but in the movement of the present, they also represent and take care of the future of that movement. In France, the Communists ally with the Social-Democrats(1) against the conservative and radical bourgeoisie, reserving, however, the right to take up a critical position in regard to phases and illusions traditionally handed down from the great Revolution.>In Switzerland, they support the Radicals, without losing sight of the fact that this party consists of antagonistic elements, partly of Democratic Socialists, in the French sense, partly of radical bourgeois.>In Poland, they support the party that insists on an agrarian revolution as the prime condition for national emancipation, that party which fomented the insurrection of Cracow in 1846.>In Germany, they fight with the bourgeoisie whenever it acts in a revolutionary way, against the absolute monarchy, the feudal squirearchy, and the petty bourgeoisie.>But they never cease, for a single instant, to instill into the working class the clearest possible recognition of the hostile antagonism between bourgeoisie and proletariat, in order that the German workers may straightway use, as so many weapons against the bourgeoisie, the social and political conditions that the bourgeoisie must necessarily introduce along with its supremacy, and in order that, after the fall of the reactionary classes in Germany, the fight against the bourgeoisie itself may immediately begin. Israel is the only democracy in the middle east, so marxists should support it
>>2945622>I don't believe in votingSee, the issue is that it might feel useless, but it's worth to vote for all the people before you who gave their lives fighting to have a right to vote, a right to be listened to through voting.
I understand the yadda yadda duopoly party system, two-sides of the same coin, but you should remember that the less people vote, the closer we all be to real de-facto monarchy without no facade, without no pretentions. The more you walk towards reaction, the less chances will people have to fight back.
So always vote for the least reactionary force. But always vote.
And no, simply voting doesn't excuse people to not doing anything else.
>>2945552You mean liberalism. Capitalism is not an ideology that anybody believes in. They are liberals. And it was, is and has been not truly global, ever. Now it only still has the critical mass, but it's losing that.
Also if you have the platonic ideal of perfect government and political system in a name a country and everybody around it hates it and systematically tries to subvert and invade and destroy it and they succeed, was the political system and government really perfect at that point?
I'm thinking of forming a /leftypol/ international battalion to serve as an expeditionary force in Syria, overthrow the al-Jolani regime and restore the secular socialist Arab Ba'ath.
>>2945649Is liberal even a good enough descriptor? There are "liberals" that have no problem with big corporations and the like and there are "liberals" who are schizo preppers
>>2945651I'll draw the logo!
>>2945651I'm a furry and would only feel okay merking wahadis in my custom $10 000 fursuit
Likewise I'll need to dry clean it due to the heat, so if we could be based somewhere in a city that'd be 👌
Also I'm diabetic so we'll need to set something up before we go
>>2945655I'm also diabetic, we are going to need to provide insulin for the battalions. Also I can't legally bear arms so I will have to be a medic sir
>>2945651Yall uyghas can't even restore this board's search functionality 🤣
>>2945658it is so sad that i can't type random shit in to the search bar for entertainment and research like i can at desuarchive :(
>>2945657That's okay. My parents are Jewish lawyers (based in Israel) so we can sort something out
FUCK YEAH LET'S KILL SOME SYRIANS
Why is the thread imploding
>>2945666>666 getit's election day and mercury is in retrograde
>>2945621always knew this guy was a retard but holy shit
>>2945672let's see those B E A N S
>>2945669Keep losing to zionists leftychud.
Documentary about datacenters and how to combat them. Google is blatantly suppressing this video.
<Fundamental Data’s proposed Ridgeline Facility would sit between Davis and Thomas, Tucker County, WV. If built as described, it could be the largest data center projects in the world. It’s still described by the company as “conceptual,” which means it can still be stopped.
<In this video, I go through everything I could find that might be illegal about it (local authority, politician NDAs, an almost entirely redacted air permit, noise, water, air pollution), meet the people fighting it, tube up a creek looking for a salamander, search for bats with a bat detector, show up at the company’s office in Virginia… and make an offer … they can't refuse.
>>2945676holy shit NIMBY tactics deployed for good instead of evil. love to see it
>>2945676sorry but leftypol overwhelmingly supports slop and slop centers
>>2945686average wsws enjoyer
I wanna be able to extend my gums out with my teeth in like they’re super long dentures so I can bite people from the bushes
>>2945652I'm not a mutt. To me liberal doesn't mean that they like gays and hate guns. US was founded on liberalism and it's current politics are all liberal, that's why they had to redefine the word to mean something else it historically meant.
>>2945686Depends on whos using it.
>>2945693what i'm saying is that "liberal" just means that a person supports few restrictions on contract and trade. there are "liberals" that absolutely hate concentrated wealth and big corporations etc, but they seem unwilling to use state power to actually get rid of these problems
>>2945648natural slave post
>>2945598lmao the absolute state of dengypol
leftychuds that triggered that the GOP is losing? Why do they care about elections?
>>2945714~injun in my faggotry~
Without voting we wouldn't have the hilarious Haley Stevens drama, so voting must be good sometimes.
I live in Texas. I can't imagine not wanting Talarico to win. I want the republican ghouls in this state to suffer. I need it more than I need water and oxygen.
>>2945658the search works again, what are you talkin about. they fixed it a while ago. maybe clear cache?
>>2945723yhwh is transmasc. that's in the bible.
>>2945694For wha purpose? Do they want to equip rangers with XIXth century guns o algo?
>>2945632>>2945638Same here brother. Voted for Talarico and straight blue across the ticket(although I can't remember any of their names.) In the positions that don't list a party, I just vote for the female or more ethnic sounding name.
>>2945515>I was planning to vote but maga family said no go, so we stayed.How old are you? You still live at home? Just tell them you're going to the store for some smokes and go vote.
I have seen enough. My call for the senate:
Dem 55 (GAIN) vs. 45 Rep
>>2945676why is he doing the soyjack pose? lmao
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