/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

I think we should vibe economy instead.

>>2953107
What was the guy who made this meme smoking?
>The Great Depression was a severe global economic downturn from 1929 to 1939.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930%E2%80%931933
> It is estimated that 5.7 to 8.7million people died from starvation across the Soviet Union

Hehe, can't have breadlines if you don't have bread. Checkmate capitalists.

>>2953109
INB4 you at me about the blah blah whatever reasons for the famines. We are not denying they happened right? I'm just laughing at this meme somehow celebrating the good time that was being had in the USSR during the Great Depression period. Like, c'mon, wtf.

only good time in soviet union was somewhere between mid 70s and mid 80s

>>2953107
>>2953108
>>2953109
>>2953110
>>2953113
soviet union achieved one of the highest growth rates in the world using central planning, many countries tried to replicate it and either failed (because in cases like India they didnt want to go all the way) or succeded like in the asian tigers, of course modified to their own specific circumstances. Also I remember when everyone claimed that the Soviet Union had famine and gulag deaths in excess of 20 million and now most sources state they are in range of 5 to 10 million (still way to high but its a start). Also starting at a certain range the numbers literally dont make sense anymore, for example, for the famine in China the range alone is like 20 to 30 million, like millions of people that might or (in most cases) never existed, for what? Kinda funny how communists are often approached to use statistics as weapons but they throw numbers at you like its nothing.

>>2953129
I said INB4 and you didn't contradict me but you still couldn't help yourself. Pathological.

>>2953132
>I said INB4 and you didn't contradict me but you still couldn't help yourself. Pathological.
For being correct?

>>2953110
Millions of people died because they failed to collectivize actually plan the economy, instead of looking for what was wrong and correcting course they accused the kulaks and washed their hands of responsibility. The great leap forward was also like this but worse. But to be fair the Soviet union was spared from the great depression… because they were isolated from the global market and had a comparatively backward and undeveloped economy despite the efforts of US and German companies to build up its industry.

>>2953107
I think economic planning is a fetish object. I found myself at peace when I realized you can do whatever you want with the economy and then stick an impotent "economic planning agency" with no real power on top so that the fantasy of having nice benevolent planners can be decoupled from the reality that planning is more trouble than it's worth

What happens economic policy wise will happen based on material conditions, not on the fantasies of people who will never, ever have the capacity to implement them. "Would the plan work?" Doesn't even enter into the equation. Perhaps I've personally designed a wonderful mars rocket in my garage - so what, I'm not going to build it, much less operate it, so who cares? May as well have just drawn a picture.

>>2953140
I just said you didn't contradict me and you just now didn't dispute that. I made my point, you didn't contradict that, but you acted just as I predicted.