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I seen some leftists claiming that Friedrich Engels of distorting or simplifying Marx’s philosophy in several ways such as in Anti-Dühring when he applied dialectical materialism to a broader scope that what Marx originally used it for, making communism be deterministic and other stuff.

Did Engels really did that or is it just leftcom cope?

Anti-Dühring:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/

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Engels was wrong on the origins of the family. Anthropology has demonstrated the institution of marriage even in primitive communist societies that share economic resources. Engels to Marx is what Hinkle is to Haz. And Hinkle is very much like Engels.

>>2955462
>Engels to Marx is what Hinkle is to Haz. And Hinkle is very much like Engels.
I don’t think it is a fair comparison because unlike those two Engels actually wrote independent works that weren’t just rehashing what Marx previously wrote

I don't know about the Anti-Dühring, but I would say Dialectics of Nature aged very very badly.
I would say Engels started an obsession among some Marxists to apply dialectics to everything, which end up with some of them spouting pseudoscientific mumbo-jumbo while confidently saying this is le actual trve science and academic science is fake and capitalist and so on.
Most Marxists don't do this, and most of what I've read by Engels was good, like Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, but I feel like Marx was more cautious in his writings and assertions than Engels.

>>2955482
dialectics of nature is 100% correct

without it you get crypto kantianism like the frankfurt school

>>2955484
How's Adorno Kantian?

>>2955462
>Anthropology has demonstrated the institution of marriage even in primitive communist societies
No it hasn't lmao

>>2955482
Yeah, I think there is a middle ground between "marxist sociology" in academia and "marxists everythingologists", sticking to political economy.

>>2955482
To be honest Goethe did a similar thing to plants before him

>>2955484
>hmmm, today I'm gonna read Dialectical and Historical Materialism by Joseph Stalin
>"dialectical materialism is not metaphysical like bourgeois Kantian philosophy"
<implies 3 pages later that dialectics is the ultimate underlying principle of nature and how everything develops in the world
>"dialectical materialism is a science that develops with time"
<2 pages later, states the Soviet communist party has reached the ultimate stage of dialectical materialism
Yeah…I think Kant was honestly less metaphysical than this, in fact Kant is the one who originally destroyed metaphysics as a discipline, and all this dialectical mumbojumbo is a return to metaphysics.
It's too bad because there is a good example of relevant dialectical thinking in Marx's works: The first chapter of Capital.

>>2955482
Diamat applied to math, biology is ok. Physics? Not ao much.

>>2955486
he ontologizes the non-identical, elevating the mere negative moment in the dialectic to the level of the transcendental, and the source of all immanent development. the failure of the concept to capture the object is the sublime, notice how this just reproduces the kantian gap.
his cultural critique, pesssimism and anticommunism is downstream from this: if object and concept can't be reconciled, then anything that emerges out of the existing society is always already captured by the totally administered world, compromised (like jazz, working class movements, AES). only a radical break can be authentic

typical petty bourgeois romantic idealism, the desire to escape to an untainted enclave of pure authenticity


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