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CNN:
https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.htmlMSNBC:
https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.htmlFOX:
https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.htmlBloomberg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFEegalitarianism No.988945
disregarding the moralism and idealism that conspiracy theories necessitate you to believe in, theres also the fact that even just using them as pseudo-metaphors to attract people to the left will only get you idiots who blame cartoon frogs or rainbow flags for everything thats "evil" in this country
No.988949
>>988945This is why communism needs dialectical-material analysis, otherwise you end up with retards pattern-noticing their way into Qtard land
No.988951
>>988941sure, but these spectacles are not equivalent to the hundreds of other shootings that might be ultimately influenced by them. and the ones like this would be the most profitable for psychological operation purposes
>>988944>Show me the video of this shooting.might not be this shooter specifically, but com'on man. all this chinlets with their manifestoss and shit always look the same too
No.988952
>>988950 sorry for the fucked up tags
No.988953
>>988945Exactly. If we run with 'black helicopters and MKULTRA', the right have a huge head start. If we're just gonna be diet rightists then why wouldn't people just be right wing.
No.988954
>>988929Were they before or after Stephen Paddock? Either way, I think my point still stands that mass murder is no longer a reliable way to become famous, news cycle is too fast and people don't have (or want) the memory
No.988955
>>988951well nobody cares about some black people shooting each other over gang stuff, but someone with memes on their AR-15 shooting random people at the store or school is obviously more interesting to most people
No.988956
>>988924that's because in that case they just want general statistics justify their effectiveness as an institution. they aren't trying to shoot for more radical policy changes
No.988958
>>988924Yeah, they'd never do that, especially when they're literally on-site with them as they're about to fucking commence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack>the undercover FBI agent "was dressed in Middle Eastern attire and police almost killed him, but he saved his life by claiming to be an FBI agentThis is the funniest part:
<In that testimony the agent said he had no advance knowledge of the Garland attack and was surprised when the attackers opened fire. No.988959
>>988951>might not be this shooter specifically, but com'on man. all this chinlets with their manifestoss and shit always look the same tooBecause they are all Nazis? Can't really re-invent the wheel.
No.988960
>>988955Even the latter has been normalized
No.988962
>>988960it's not that unusual sure but the point is, poltards get off on it so it gets shared
No.988963
Salvador Ramos? Lmao the feds are so bad at coming up with creative names. Who's next, Bob Green? Li Ming?
No.988965
>>988891>Except what the feds have actually organized is drug trading?the fed program of manufacturing and entrapping terrorists in sting operations is well documented. it's also well documented just how many of these mass shooter fucks (the buffalo guy for instance) are known to the fbi before they commit their crimes.
>can you make a non-schizophrenic argument as to why the feds want the US to be the leading capital of mass shootings in the world?i don't have to. that's beside the point. they don't have to want conditions to be as they are to exploit them towards their own contingent ends. the argument is not that mass shooter culture as such is intentionally designed, but rather that at least some mass shootings are.
>The problem with people like you is that you’re aware enough to recognize that the American government is evil, but still so deep in the idealist swamp you think it is evil for the sake of being evili'm sure they have reasons, probably very specific reasons in some cases. i could guess at them: graft generation, political expediency, corruption, even assassination is a plausible motive for inciting mass violence. of course they don't, strictly speaking, need this means to achieves those ends, but it's still not out of the question prima facie.
No.988967
>>988746>allowing someone to do something absolves that person of guilt>>988809yup
No.988969
>>988965> it's also well documented just how many of these mass shooter fucks (the buffalo guy for instance) are known to the fbi before they commit their crimes.I'm sure you are known to the FBI too. It is a meaningless thing because they NOTICE everyone.
No.988970
>>988958>Failed terrorist attack<This is the proofs!Conspiratards literally BTFO themselves
>>988956Why tf do they need to justify themselves? Who in the American government was discussing either defunding or disbanding the FBI for this move to be necessary?
Shit like this also literally disproves the effectiveness of the FBI, if they entrap people who then go on a mass murder they fail to prevent
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>>988968
Opp is a common rap slang you fucking cracker
No.988973
>>988965Marxist Blogger Guy whose mom has to hide his antipsychotics by crushing them up in his Arbys: Are you Seriously believing the Narrative right now? Maybe you should read this 700 page document that’s 80% redacted and maybe you’ll change your tune.
No.988975
>>988955yes. i dont see how this goes against what im saying
>>988959im referring to this. maybe this is too schizo though a point. still the other formal aspects of these shootings that indicate that they are clearly meant to be a spectacle is different than the average random one that's not as massaged into being a spectacle
No.988977
>>988972Uh oh, looks like they forgot to delete the proof of a staged incident!
No.988979
>>988972>training for a mass shooter with a revolverlol as if, what is this the wild west?
No.988980
>>988970>>Failed terrorist attack><This is the proofs!So you are just baiting and realize what you are saying is incorrect, right?
No.988981
>>988975White people look the same.
They wear glasses and have weak genetics.
They are unattractive which angers them.
Anger leads to hatred.
A sample size of 5 isn't enough to establish a pattern. There have been plenty shooters who don't look like this.
No.988982
>>988969These schizos think real life is like a movie
Like minority report or some shit where the FBI know your every move and can predict exactly what you're going to do
No.988983
>>988980The attack you posted literally debunks your own point
No.988984
>>988982Idealist brainworms dressed up in leftist speak
No.988985
>>988970>Who in the American government was discussing either defunding or disbanding the FBI for this move to be necessary?im guessing it's preemptive. also i am suggesting this because i can't think of any other reason why these fucks are honeypotting random people and artificially inflating the amount of potential terrorists
No.988987
>>988985>i can't think of any other reason why these fucks are honeypotting random people and artificially inflating the amount of potential terroristscould it be that, shock horror, they are not actively doing that?
No.988988
>>988969we know that's not true because many mass shooters are not known to the fbi beforehand. if they noticed everyone, you'd think this kid for instance would have been on their radar.
>>988973>700 page document that’s 80% redactedtry a google search and a short news article. here's just two on the phenomena i am describing:
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/aby-rayyan-fbi-terror-sting-pizza-man/index.htmlhttps://reason.com/2017/03/29/that-time-an-undercover-fbi-agent-told-o/ No.988989
>>988981true there was the charlestown spectacle shooter who didn't have the same physiognomy. that's why i said it's probably just schizo
No.988991
>>988982No but if you right a detalied plan about how you are going to commit a mass shooting and leave it up on a fbi.gov server for months that gets reported then something is up. There was a fucking woman in the UK that had her house raided by swat because she ordered a backpack and a pressure cooker on ebay after a terrorist attack
No.988992
The “no bitches” meme but it says “no manifesto”
No.988996
>>988994He’s pretty good…
No.988997
>>988987but that's literally what they are literally doing? or maybe you are objecting to the idea that it's to inflate numbers?
No.988998
>>988993>do not know how you can consider yourself a marxist if your position is that recent history is determined not through struggle but a series of psyops devised by a cabal of evil pedophiles.No one said that.
No.988999
>>988991Do you seriously think the FBI can detect a random chatroom and automatically analyze it in a way that finds out it is Attack X on Day Y? You are vastly overestimating the technological capabilities
>There was a fucking woman in the UK that had her house raided by swat because she ordered a backpack and a pressure cooker on ebay after a terrorist attackIn no way comparable to an empty server on a video game chat room with a generic check-list that has to be checked by a human knowing the context of what he is talking about
No.989002
>>988990i wanna fuck the two asians
No.989004
>>988993>do not know how you can consider yourself a marxist if your position is that recent history is determined not through struggle but a series of psyops devised by a cabal of evil pedophiles.see:
>>988843 No.989006
>>988998>>989004autism or disingenuous? ill let you decide
No.989009
>>988998>>989004Stop making fun of me by comparing me to qtards, I'm not talking about evil pedophiles I'm talking about evil feds with lots of time, big difference!
No.989010
>>988999>Do you seriously think the FBI can detect a random chatroom and automatically analyze it in a way that finds out it is Attack X on Day Y?Yes. fbi.gov already collects this kind of data. But that's not what happened, to my knowledge the server was reported to police and then the feds.
>In no way comparable to an empty server on a video game chat room with a generic check-list that has to be checked by a human knowing the context of what he is talking aboutHe made a detailed plan about when, how, where, and with what weapons he was going to carry out the attack.
No.989012
>>989010I read the chats and without context you wouldn't know what he was talking about. Stop lying. Especially an AI wouldn't "know".
No.989015
>>989010> But that's not what happened, to my knowledge the server was reported to police and then the feds.Also false, it was only detected after the shooting
No.989016
>>989009why did you reply to my post three times?
No.989019
>>989010>Yes. fbi.gov already collects this kind of datathats different from
parsing and
analyzing that data you troglodyte
No.989020
>>988993>recent history is determined not through struggle but a series of psyops devised by a cabal of evil pedophiles.literally no one claimed this. you people go so far in the direction of rejecting conspiracism that you come a ball hair away from reject the notion that psyops or intentional action on the part of the powerful not only never explain broad systems, but can never explain the occurrence of any event, ever.
>In the end it just glorifies the good, abstinent capitalistsno it doesn't. that's just a non-sequitur. like saying it glorifies normal rapists to point out some rapists assault children.
No.989021
>>988736It seems like he was just a psycho
No.989022
<TheGreatestOpp>OHMAGERD THE FEDS ARE TAUNTING USOpp means enemy in rap songs
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oppSome of you guys are retards for real
No.989023
>>989020>gets angry and cant process an analogy as an analogy<ends post with an even dumber analogylmao
No.989024
>>989012>>989015Well then in this particular instance I heard wrong amd the feds did not have that knowledge. Stop disingeniously calling people qtards
No.989026
>>989020>literally no one claimed this.They did in this very thread, lmfao
STFU schizo
No.989028
>>988761I think I saw time stamps for the pics and they were from April 28th
No.989032
>>989000i gave a possible reason why though. maybe i shouldn't have leapt to the conclusion that the inflation itself is intentional, but if it wasn't idk why they would go out of their way to honeypot random people
>>989009>>989006you are the one being disingenuous though. no one talked about a cabal of evil elites. obviously they have their own rational self-interest, and moreover the feds are an institution, not just people who are fucking people over because it gives them an erection
No.989033
>>989022are you retarded? you are replying to bait/satire as if it were real
No.989034
>>989025>lumpenmusikJust say the n-word, i know you want to.
No, the retards are those jumping to conclusion without having done the proper investigation.
No investigation, no right to talk.
Conspiratards will get the fucking wall or at least some very intense re-education to drive out the fucking idealist brainworms out of their thick skulls.
No.989036
>>989033>everything that embarrasses my side is baitSTFU schizo
No.989037
So what the fuck happened! Why’d he do it?
No.989038
>>989020>literally no one claimed this>>989032>no one talked about a cabal of evil elitesIs every autist going to exclusively going to focus on the least important part of that post? The absolute state of pattern detectors.
No.989039
>>989037Violent American culture + CIA grooming
No.989040
>>989039>CIA groomingCitation needed
No.989041
>>989036as far as I know it's you samefagging you little bitch, clearly that guy was baiting or doing the same thing you are
No.989043
>tfw TheThingNoticer won by raising a new generation of retarded monkey-brained pattern noticers
No.989044
>>989023>no arguments>doesn't know what an analogy is>>989026show me a single poster advocating for the obviously false position that literally everything is caused by glowie mind control conscpiracy.
>>989038don't attack strawmen and you won't be attacked for it.
No.989046
>>989041Now the schizo goes on to accusations of samefagging. Are those samefags in the room with you right now?
No.989048
>>988567Nice idea but
>you – the slave, arguably, will always will confrontwat
>>988650bruuuuuuuuuuuh
>>988680On that note, over 98% of convictions in America don't even go to trial.
>>988681>Will leftypol choose the noble, majestic wolf of rationality or the emaciated shit covered rabid coyote of schizophrenia?kek
>>988827Dios mio… Save for the hair, he's the perfect poljak.
No.989049
>>989044stop strawmanning me by comparing me to qtards with my constant delusions about feds being major agents in everything :(
No.989050
>>988983Try reading more than 6 words into the article. It debunks yours.
No.989051
>>989044>show me a single poster advocating for the obviously false position that literally everything is caused by glowie mind control conscpiracy.Learn about rhetoric you autist
No.989053
>>989049Now he will claim you're strawmanning him again. See, he doesn't believe feds aren't involved in everything, only… most if not all mass shootings in the latest decades.
No.989055
>>989052<when the feds entrap people, particularly potential mass murderers, they don’t actually let the individual go through with the act>individuals go through with the act right in front of a fucking federal agentRetard
No.989056
hey you know conspiracy theories? terminally smallminded middle class paranoia elevated to a worldview? anyway we need that but 'Marxist'
No.989057
>>989038>the least important part of that postwhat is the main point of the post then?
No.989058
Heh…did you know [insert declassified CIA psy-op in the context of Cold War] happened? This must mean [insert random small-time crime] is a CIA op too!
No.989060
>>988406the US govt is incapable of confiscating guns. The very people who they would expect to carry out gun confiscation would be the people most likely to be against gun confiscation. If they really wanted to confiscate guns it would be more productive to do a taxpayer subsidized buyback program.
Besides, you can 3D print guns these days. The govt can never find them all.
No.989061
>>989043That implies that anyone took TheThingNoticer seriously to begin with.
Spoiler alert: No one did.
No.989062
>>989044>show me a single poster advocating for the obviously false position that literally everything is caused by glowie mind control conscpiracy.there isn't any, it's retarded strawmanning
No.989063
>>988406>The point is gun confiscationthis will NEVER fucking happen lmaoooooo
No.989064
REEE NOBODY SAYS IT IS ABOUT BANNING GUNS
Meanwhile:
>>988406 No.989066
>>989061Well apparently his methods live on because there a lot of fucking retard Thing Noticers ITT right now
No.989067
>>989051the rhetoric understander. this is like that guy who was screeching about how we shouldn't call capitalists parasites because it is the same rhetoric used by fascists
No.989068
>>989067>this is like that guy who was screeching about how we shouldn't call capitalists parasites because it is the same rhetoric used by fascistsyou mean all the posts whining about "strawmanning"?
No.989070
>>989067>this is like that guy who was screeching about how we shouldn't call capitalists parasites because it is the same rhetoric used by fascistsno its not
No.989072
>>989063it already did in many countries and to some extent in America
No.989073
>>989069The P didn't stand for 'pass'
No.989074
>>989069The shooting was organized by the Ken Paxton Organization to surpress the vote
No.989075
>>989072were those countries as militarized as america and also had over 1 gun per capita before gun control started?
No.989077
>>989069The Crook vs. the Cuck
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>>989068i can't see the comparison
>>989070yes it is. bringing up fucking rhetoric is basically
saying "well you might not explicitly claim that, but because of the way you word things…" as though your extrapolations from people mentioning feds matters to what has actually been said
No.989079
>>989072In some overly blue states like connecticut and california, but it won't happen on a national level, the NRA is just as if not more influential than the Isreal lobby
No.989080
>>989078wow the conspiracy theorists itt truly are autistic, like clinically
No.989084
>>989055The attack literally didnt happen the way it was planned lol
No.989085
>>989053i didn't say "most" much less "if not all". i said "some". apparently it is beyond the pale for you to consider that "some" mass shootings are done with the implicit or explicit support of the security apparatus.
>>989064hey, someone actually found an example. good work. this is a retard is sincere, and i don't agree with him.
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>>989083The organization his father was head of certainly did.
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>>989080>NOOOO you don't understand because you are autistic. i know your positions better than you based on the way you worded things!didn't know you could gaslight people by calling people autistic till this day
No.989090
I still remember how disturbed everyone was in the days after sandy hook. That was truly incomprehensible. Everyone talked with each other about it. But this one? I don’t think anyone is even going to mention it, offline. Of course, barely anyone talks anything anymore, it seems.
No.989091
In my country there's strict gun control laws but gangs are more or less constantly killing each other with firearms. There's been constant cases of cops smuggling weapons too, but for some reason only immigrants get blamed for the increase in gun fights, I've even heard Venezuela getting blamed for it by conspiracytards lmao
No.989092
>>989090I feel like we're too worn out from Buffalo shooter. Also this was Mexican on Mexican crime. No fun narratives.
No.989093
>>989091Colombia? Brazil?
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>>989091>I've even heard Venezuela getting blamed for it by conspiracytards lmaoConspiracytards deserve to hang from a tree
No.989095
>>989090I've checked my favorite Left Twitter(tm) accounts for any discourse and nobody is talking about it. I guess a mass shooting without a memefesto is irrelevant.
No.989096
>>989054The ayylien who find the remains of human civilization in this lifeless ball of dirt in the
very near future will have a really, really tough time sorting through the archeological record.
No.989097
>>989094For real, like the source of all these illegal guns couldn't be more in your face but let's blame the poors for it. There was even a campaign to hand in your gun and, you guessed it, some cops in charge of it were found selling those guns later.
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>>98909818 dead now? jesus
No.989102
>>989084No shit, but not because epic langley bros did a heckin suppression before things got out of hand. They got BTFO by a cop as they started their shooting because the whole event was packed to the gills with law enforcement. This does NOT change the fact that the fucking glowie on scene not only let them start shooting but did jack shit to stop them and straight up fled from the scene.
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>>98909918 kids 3 adults.
No.989104
>>989102Ok so what is the correlation to this particular shooting lmao
No.989105
is there any saving the us? i just hope china nukes it at some point
No.989106
>>989075I am not sure, probably some of them had more than one civilian gun per civilian. Even in America many states have extremely cucked gun laws where guns have to be ergonomically retarded and only hold like 5 or 10 rounds. Even a supressor is restricter, and that only barely muffles a gunshot to the point that it won't give you permanent hearing damage without ear protections. There is new gun laws being passed every time there is a mass shooting and it is even worse in countries like Canada that just implemented a gun registry again, after the mass shooting that was pulled by an RCMP (federal police) asset in an RCMP car targeting other RCMP informants. Revolutionaries benefit from laisez faire gun ownership, as the proletariat can arm and train itself. The rightwing extremists are all but condoned by the state as long as they toe the line so this legislation disproportionately does not inconvenince them.
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>>989104no you are right margret thatcher events are isolated and have no correlation with each other
No.989112
>>989105back to chapo traphpuse crakkker
No.989113
>>989109Oh— hold on. Mr. Xi, recall the nukes. They don’t want to be nuked now.
No.989114
>>988998>>989004>>989020Ok since you guys simply will not address the main point of the post maybe this will be more clear to you?
Do powerful people act maliciously? Yes of course, but those acts aren't purely self-willed, nor do they automatically coincide with the logic of capital. Often times they express one side of some contradiction internal to the capitalist class, e.g. a failure of the bourgeois state to mediate labor on behalf of capitalist class (as a whole) by any other means.
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>>989102and dressed up as muslim lmao
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>>989111Name the correlation then schizo
No.989119
>>989105Tecumseh was our last real chance
No.989120
>>989090The U.S. is on an unsustainable trajectory but reforms are structurally blocked so people feel like they can't do anything.
>"To conclude, the Soviet system is not likely to last, not likely to change fundamentally by evolution, and not likely to be overthrown a revolution. History, to be sure, has a way of advancing even when that means leaving historians behind."– Nicolas Riasnovsky (1984)
No.989121
>>989110this one was wild
No.989122
Man, if he just held out to see this months inflation numbers. The FED might only raise rates by 50 basis points which would have been great for the market.
No.989123
>>989117Lol, that monkey is pickier than me. I don't bother peeling off those stringy bits.
No.989125
>>989123Based, more potassium for you sir
No.989126
Stay in Mexico and get shot by the narcos or move to the USA and get shot by some psychopath.
There is no salvation or hope if you were born poor and south of the border!!
No.989127
>>989114why did you reply to my post 4 times?
>course, but those acts aren't purely self-willed, nor do they automatically coincide with the logic of capital. Often times they express one side of some contradiction internal to the capitalist class, e.g. a failure of the bourgeois state to mediate labor on behalf of capitalist class (as a whole) by any other means.Someone already said this and you called them a retard:
>>989032 No.989133
>>989118That feds are often involved in mass shootings, so it's reasonable for a suspicion to arise, it is not necessarily the case for the latest shooting, I haven't seen enough information to make any kind of judgement and I wouldn't claim feds are involved unless there is evidence they were
No.989134
>>989133>it's reasonable for a suspicion to ariseironically the environment is a more concrete thing to focus on than potential "fed encouragement"
No.989136
>>989104I didn't intend for there to be. I was merely responding to the argument that glowies NEVER allow their targets to start shit. It's fine to have skepticism towards conspiratorial thinking but you don't have to run to the opposite end and deny glowshit that's actually documented to own the schizos.
No.989138
>>989119Do you mean tecumseh the leader of the iroquois confederacy? True, he was the last chance to save north america from the USA.
No.989139
More Americans should play elden ring. They they will see that even after your society had been destroyed in a cataclysm you can still continue making an honest living as a cursed spirit, plague beast, blood cultist etc.
No.989144
>>989136No communist will deny federal intelligence involvmenet since we all know about COINTELPRO. However, there is a distinct overemphasis on conspiracies ever since the pandemic hit, peoples minds are fucking broken and it affects leftists too.
No.989145
>>989131i wanna move to canada to avoid climate collapse :(
No.989147
>>988990But these women are hot though?
No.989152
>>989126>>989126>south of the borderim very, very south of the border (south america) and things seem to be a bit better here
No.989154
>>989148Everyone who disagrees with me is the same person especially in the most active thread right now.
No.989162
>>989156There will always be mass shooterinos anon. Just buy ammo now because it won't get cheaper.
No.989163
>>989090That one was 20 first graders and six teachers. This is still within the upper bound of normal.
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>>989107got the whole squad laughing
No.989165
>>989114>Do powerful people act maliciously? Yes of course, but those acts aren't purely self-willed, nor do they automatically coincide with the logic of capital. Often times they express one side of some contradiction internal to the capitalist class, e.g. a failure of the bourgeois state to mediate labor on behalf of capitalist class (as a whole) by any other means.this is all uncontroversial to the point of tedium and does not tell us anything about the validity or utility of conspiracy theory as a mode of analysis. it can be the case that even the intentions of conspirators are overdetermined by material conditions (i would think most marxist proponents of conspiracy theories accept this) while not foreclosing on the potential utility of exposing said intentions of conspiracy.
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>>989163Not really. 18 children and 3 adults so far, children being elementary schoolers.
No.989168
>>989152There's an old Irish phrase "England's problems are Ireland's opportunities", I think you can say "US' problems are Latin America's opportunities"
No.989171
>>989165It all falls apart in this shooting unless you can adequately show the intentions of said conspiracy. What are the intentions of a school shooting? Every reason I have read here was fucking bullshit.
No.989173
were adding metal detectors to school, maybe need children to take off their shoes before entering too
No.989174
>>989171Because….because the feds are evil, okay?
No.989177
>>989173There's a bunch of schools that already force clear plastic backpacks and metal detectors on kids, these aren't alternative schools for druggies and fuckups either
No.989178
>>989171>It all falls apart in this shootingsure. i don't disagree. from what little i've seen it seems unlikely in this case. but we aren't talking about merely this specific case. the post we're concerned with here (>>988993) is concerned with conspiracism and its efficacy writ large.
No.989179
>>989156look into reloading
there is a thread here somewhere
No.989181
>>989177>The school district reportedly had multiple security measures in place, including four officers within the school district and a security staff that patrolled door entrances and parking lots at secondary campuses. Many other measures were utilized as well.lol this is from the current shooting. security theater being useless as usual
No.989182
>>989178Perhaps you should do an effortpost in a new thread then, because people here will talk about the new shooting that has occurred primarily
No.989183
>>989182i'm just responding to what's put in front of me, pal. take it up with the guy that made the argument in the first place.
No.989185
>>989183I've been arguing here for a while now. The original post is already gone. The guy said all shootings are orchestrated by the FBI. That was the basis.
No.989189
>>989185these are the posts i was responding to:
>>988993 and
>>989114 No.989192
>>989189Look I dont deny that the rich engage in conspiracies (secret planes), of course they do, but dialectical materialism shows us that the bourgeoisie is also subject to history and capitalism the same way we are, whereas idealists like to portray them as if they are above the system (think George Soros schizo talk)
No.989193
>>989098glowies need to let us know they're equal-opportunity terrorism promoters
>>989109I have seen better trolls than you in special ed classes.
No.989195
>>989192well then it sounds to me as though we are in agreement
No.989199
almost 20 children dead and i have to wonder how many of those are due to police crossfire considering the shooter engaged with them outside
No.989200
>>989196Good chance Salvador has watched a
lot of anime.
No.989201
>>989199https://nitter.snopyta.org/NatashaBertrand/status/1529255082914725888
>Sgt. Erick Estrada of the Texas Dept of Public Safety tells @andersoncooper the shooter crashed his car near the school, got out with a gun and wearing body armor, was engaged by law enforcement, but made his way into the school anyway and went classroom to classroom shooting.mmm
No.989202
>>989196He killed his grandma first. Maybe that was the trigger to go on a rampage?
No.989203
>>989199if you speculate about police wrongdoing without any evidence you are a schizo
No.989205
>>989203Police wrongdoing =/= FBI mind control
No.989207
>>989204im talking about children killed by cops accidentally :(
>>989203wow youre hilarious
No.989209
>>989207Yeah they probably got some kids too.
No.989210
>>989199Conspiratard stfu
No.989211
>>989199>>989201We only need a good guy with a gun to stop mass shooters, and since the cops aren't good, well………
No.989214
>>989205fbi allows with foreknowledge and organizes mass violence =/= fbi mind control is behind everything that has ever happened.
No.989217
>>989214Show anything that indicates the FBI let this random small town killing spree happen
No.989220
>>989211unifonically yes lol
No.989221
>>989217i won't because i didn't claim as such.
No.989222
>>989220time to arm teachers
No.989223
>>989214Those two things really aren't that far apart. The role of that organization is still malicious/neglectful and pervasive. Unlike what some here say, that it has little or no effect on these kinds of events.
No.989225
>>989223Then present ur case to us.0
No.989226
>>989223what effect did the fbi have on some teenager going ape mode on his grandma
No.989227
>>989223>Those two things really aren't that far apart.yes they are. the former is a concrete allegation of malfeasance, while the latter is fantastical nonsense intentionally stated with the veneer of paranormal woo.
No.989229
no memefesto == dead thread btw
we already exhausted all dunking on conspiracytards so were going to keep going in circles as those kind of people love repeating their points until everyone else gets too tired to keep replying
No.989236
>>989222okay maybe. kids should feel safe at school though.
No.989239
>>989229you are tilting at windows and nobody is saying the things you are claiming
No.989243
>>989239bold assumptions to get from a single post
No.989247
>>989239You're so horny to deny that your post makes no sense, did you mean to reply to someone else?
No.989254
AH I'M DEBOOOOOOOOOONKING
No.989284
>>989120I told you guys it’s gonna be like the USSR. We’re probably going to get our version of Gorbachev (probably AOC). They’ll nearly get overthrown by the DP + GOP and it will signal a dysfunction of the empire.
1. All 800 military bases overseas will close down
2. Major industries which are used do getting government funding will no longer function (Ford, GM, Chrysler, + oil conglomerates)
3. Outlining territories and states become independent, Eg. American Samoa, Puerto Rico, Guam + possibly Hawaii and Alaska
No.989291
>>988990Why do they look the same? Wtf?
No.989311
>>988975I don’t get how they’re called chinlets here. A couple of them have obvious chins.
No.989328
>>988823Japan does the same thing. No shootings there.
No.989351
"people point to Switzerland as a country with a lot of guns but no mass shootings, but there are plenty of countries with a lot of gun violence who also don't have these random lone wolf shootings. there's just something fundamentally wrong about American society that induces it
Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, they have plenty of gun violence, not many lone wolf mass shootings. something about America, specifically, breeds an alienated disregard for human beings"
No.989354
>>989328they don't have access to guns so they kill themselves.
No.989357
>>989328They gas trains or burn buildings
No.989364
>>989222Teachers will just shoot kids. Have you interacted with children?
No.989365
>>989328Japan only has some form of "cutthroat competition" in high school, when you're a wage slave only wasting all your life on the same corporation so you're a senior to everyone else matters after that. I don't even know where you get that Japan is militarized these days, they've memory-holed everything before the end of WWII besides their hatred of other Asian countries, so nowadays they just hate them in a vacuum.
No.989366
>>989361source for ice being on the scene?
No.989368
shootings is imperialism come back home to roost, cant feel too bad when kids are starving to death in afghanistan
yanks are the most cuckolded, whipped, cowardly, bootlicking, servile population in this fucking planet
No.989371
>>989367>list of articles on fedpediawell no shit lololol
No.989372
>>989367lmao all these places except the usa were acts of ethnic/religious terror or warfare, not children shooting up their school because they get ostracized
No.989373
>>989367Damn, rampage killers every decade or so. Wow!
No.989376
>>989367>>989371I'm sorry it's probably missing all the secret spree killings.
>>989372No they weren't lol.
>The Shijiazhuang bombings (Chinese: 靳如超爆炸案 or 石家庄“3·16”特大爆炸案), also known as Jin Ruchao bombings and March 16 bombings, were a series of bomb blasts that took place on March 16, 2001 in Shijiazhuang, the capital of Hebei province in North China. A total of 108 people were killed,[1] and 38 others injured when within a short period of time several bombs exploded near four apartment buildings.[2] Investigations found that Jin was motivated by hatred for his ex-wife, ex-mother-in-law and a lover;[3][4] he had previously threatened to blow up their buildings.[3]America wouldn't even be on the top scoreboard globally.
No.989377
>>989375He-he just wanted to know if Annie was ok.
No.989379
>>989376youre gonna compare one-off events to amerika where this shit happens
more than once a month?
No.989383
>>989379>youre gonna compare one-off events to amerika where this shit happens more than once a month?Ever heard of copy cat killers? These things always come in waves.
No.989384
>>989376>I'm sorry it's probably missing all the secret spree killingsI know you are baiting and I Will say this again. The mass murders wikipedia.org has categorized by country is not a representation of how many mass murders there have been or what country has had the most.
No.989389
>>989383is that why your own source only shows around a decade of nothing between each "mass killing" for each country in the list
No.989391
>>989389It's organized by number of kills dipshit.
No.989393
>>989391you can sort lists on wikipedia by clicking on the column header my friend
No.989396
>>989375He got called a "Latinx" way too many times.
No.989397
>>989393Which I did for that confused anon who was confused about the gaps in time between the items on the list. See:
>>989392 No.989398
>>989392now show countries that dont have 4.35 times the population of america.
No.989403
>>989110Sushi dinners. COMPED
No.989413
>>989412>>989409taking this post with any seriousness<
No.989414
>>989375idk I just get suicideboys columbine worshipper edgy schizo vibes from him
No.989416
>>989375What's his favorite post-punk album?
No.989417
>>989369Isn't Gosar the same guy who was friends with a Mexican catboy?
No.989421
i'm so happy more amerikans are getting killed by random acts of violence, more white kids should shoot other white kids
No.989422
>>989421But it was mexican on mexican crime?
No.989423
>>988846Umm I think you mean Salvadxr Ramxs.
No.989426
>>989412That's sort of the contradiction in Burger rightoids praising Switzerland for its relatively lax gun laws (with low crime) and being shocked at the Davos police paying a visit to that fascist tabloid journalist and seeing him as a tad suspicious (the Swiss intelligence services surveilled at least 1 in 3 foreigners during the Cold War). The militia culture + culture of snitching to the authorities kinda work together. There are reasons why that country kept its neutrality.
No.989427
>>989409>>989426what about sweden
No.989434
What a coincidence that once the shooter was found out to be from North Dakota, the rhetoric shifted from illegal immigrant' to transwoman in an instant.
No.989440
Another school shooting? This is even more proof that school is an oppressive hierarchy and must be abolished.
No.989441
Did xir make a video of the shooting?
No.989444
>>989434What's a Mexibro doing on those latitudes? We definitely CANNOT handle cold temperatures.
No.989449
>>989426>Burger rightoids praising Switzerland for its relatively lax gun laws I thought they were actually super strict and the only reason there are so many guns is because they actually have a militia like we were supposed to.
No.989451
>>989449They're cool with that. They get wet at the idea of having a full auto in their house. I think Switzerland also has lax laws for gun ownership as well as the loaned gun they give you. But like I said with, the loaned gun, they get to have a full auto in the home.
No.989454
>>989451Yeah but the rightoids would call it a commie gun grab if we tried anything similar.
No.989459
>>989454No they wouldn't.
No.989473
>>989469Actually true, because their violence serves a direct business purpose (take out their competition, intimidate governments, etc), there's no incentive to kill schoolchildren. Americans who do that are just retarded incel psychopaths.
No.989478
>>989469Yeah, cartels would never shoot kids, they just send the army to do their work.
No.989480
>>989479They were murdered anon (their bodies disappeared), and it was the army or police who shot at them and took them away.
No.989490
>>989434He was an illegal Canadian!
No.989491
>>989469>>989473did you never see the news of two school buses with 43 children that got "disappeared" by narcos lol
>>989479beat me to it
>>989480>it was the army or police who shot at them and took them awayum yes the federal police who are in cahoots with narcos… the story so far is that thoses buses were carrying heroin unbeknownst to the school
No.989492
>>989486What in the fuck happened to him?
No.989495
>>989491Yes, the army, the police, the government, and narcos all work with each other
No.989496
>>989495It gets mislabeled as a "drug war" when really it's a civil war, the narcos are an informal extension of various Mexican state governments
No.989497
>>989492opened his third eye, obviously.
No.989500
>>989492>>989497The banana went too far up there
No.989503
>>989409That's funny, i'm half swiss, part german and polish. I'd say Swiss are more misers, hate government, like making money, some of them are tightly wound up.
No.989504
>>989456good question. hope people dont ignore it
No.989505
>>989456Depending on your perspective they already went revisionist under Earl Browder
No.989513
>>989505i get that - the question was probably improperly phrased - "disbanded" is the key term I was getting at. For instance the Communist party of Australia disbanded and rebranded as the "Search Foundation," the Mongolian Revolutionary People's Party gave up Marxism-Leninism and rebranded as the "Mongolian Peoples Party," the League of Communists of Yugoslavia all disbanded, and so on. How did the CPUSA resist the tide?
No.989516
what was the name of that song again. in the video with the leftcom catgirl
No.989518
>>989513I mean they basically did go through the process you were describing, but in the 40s and 50s instead of 80s and 90s
No.989521
Let me get this straight! During the end of Obama and during trump we were oil independent. During trump keystone wasn't done. We have the same compacity right now. They are purposely not pumping as much as they could correct?
No.989522
>>989434We need to shut down the dakotas until we figure out what’s going on.
No.989531
These fucking zoomer text logs are melting my brain. I can’t believe this is what kids talk like these days. Fr fr.
No.989532
>>989518why didn't they disband?
No.989533
>>989220>Trog think stronk good guy wif gun do stob mass shootahsAlthough I own multiple firearms, or because of it, and am pro gun ownership. This is bullshit. There were several armed officers on the scene of this last mass shooting (also a barricade), the one before it in Buffalo, and many others in years past. They don’t do shit at best, and often run the fuck away until back up arrives. There ain’t shit the best of good guys can do until after the first shot is fired, and a mass shooter with any sense of self preservation or a desire for high kill counts will wait to start shooting until they reduce the possibility of return fire. A good guy with a gun ain’t doing shit until it’s far too late, and usually they’re just going to shit their pants because 95% of people who conceal carry do so out of fear.
No.989537
>>989531He tagged some random chick on instagram with his pics and told her he was going to do something in an hour and she has to respond to his dm at that time. She did not respond and several hours later people are screaming at her because he intimated she was is girlfriend on somehow.
No.989538
>>989537*she was his girlfriend, on some platform somehow
Anyway that girl is probably gunna need some therapy.
No.989542
>>989532I guess they couldn't fall any further than they already did
No.989549
>>989117>tfw you will never eat a giant bananano homo
No.989556
>>989551>creepy stranger tags her in a picture of a bunch of guns>tells her he's "about to" do something but won't tell her what>says he'll tell her but she has to respond in an hour>"uh yeah sure but I'm probably gonna take a nap so idk">doesn't think to report any of this to authorities just in caseI'm sorry she has to live with this guilt because it's really not her fault, but what the fuck, why was she so casual about this
No.989559
>>989556my first response would be "who the fuck are you?" and immediately block them
No.989563
>>989560Noooooooo u dont get it sex slavery is ok if their government is bad like how former soviet girls were trafficked after the collapse
No.989565
What's up with all these 18 year olds killing people?
No.989567
>>989565Zoomers will own nothing and we will be happy
No.989569
I'm sick of people saying JFK was assassinated, I've even seen it on this board. People will say with a straight face that JFK was shot in the head by either one or multiple assassins. They'll make convoluted arguments for why it was this conspiracy or that one. A middle-aged man under the pressures of the presidency and navigating the Cold War, a war veteran with Addison's disease, can't die without it being some James Bond plotline where that super sleuth gets to be the smartest person in the room for uncovering the plot.
<#1. If JFK was shot, why is the only official theory as to how using a magical bullet trajectory?
<#2. If JFK was assassinated by multiple people, do you expect a group to keep a secret that long when it'd make a celebrity out of the whistleblower? If it was by one person, do you think it meets the legal standard of credibility when the only man accused of the crime was lynched before presenting his side beyond stating "I'm a patsy"?
<#3. Did that same office not coordinate hiding the health issues of FDR and Reagan?
You insult his grieving family when you still insist after all these years that he was shot. Shame on you.
No.989570
>>989565kids with guns
kids with guns
takin over
they won't be long
they're mesmirized
skeletons
kids with guns
kids with guns
WELL THEY'RE TURNIN US INTO MONSTERS
TURNIN US INTO FIRE
TURNIN US INTO MONSTERS
No.989576
>>989569Have people considered he might have just sneezed really hard instead of making up convoluted conspiracies about it?
No.989577
>>989576Big Sneeze Theory
No.989585
>>989492Alan Moore ancient wizard energy
I can respect it
No.989595
>>989577Don't hold in a sneeze kids
No.989602
>>989569conspiracy theorists have this weird tendency to get hung up on the dumbest most easily explainable aspect of any event. like jfk assasination guys who think lee harvey oswald wasn't the shooter
No.989604
>>989574How reliable is TruePundit? The one saying the FBI covered up his running guns is from there.
No.989608
>>989602Lmao this guy believes the Oswald-did-it conspiracy theory!
No.989609
>>989604>How reliable is xWell did you check his sources?
No.989610
>>989608if the government or anyone involved in government has ever studied or proposed studying something, that is sufficient evidence that either the hypothesis being studied is true, or there is a conspiracy to suppress the truth.
No.989611
>>989565They've lived most of their lives in a system that doesn't treat them as a social creature or even as human. Every moment of their life has been in an era of extended crisis with only the promise of more horrors ahead.
People in the third world cope with the horrors of capitalism by turning to their friends, family, and social bonds. People in the first world, having been stripped of even this, are incapable of seeing others as human, and so can only become monsters themselves.
No.989612
>>989609Alright, I checked the article and it's working with the same email pieces cited earlier, but the headline is doing a lot of the legwork there. The actual info isn't so explicit. Still looks sketchy tho.
No.989632
>>989560well maybe they wouldn't get creeps all the time if only they wore veils
food 4 thought
No.989646
>>989569his head just did that
No.989662
>>989513CPUSA should rename itself Liberal Party USA and let Haz have the name, thereby ending the entryist plot.
No.989670
>>988494I know this is slightly different as it isn't the sort of random lone-wolf acts of violence that America has, but there was this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attackShit like this is why they implemented their Xinjiang policy, but the state department doesn't want you to know about that.
No.989683
>>989670>xinjiang policy is justified because terrorismkill. yourself.
No.989684
<There is no America without mass shootings, because the United States was founded on mass shootings (of Injuns and nigs)
No.989686
>School district superintendent Hal Harrell announced that night in a letter sent to parents that the school year had concluded for the entire district, including a planned graduation ceremony. The school year had been previously scheduled to end that Thursday.
damn… the kids would have had summer starting thursday
No.989692
>>989648NA is the culmination of a society driven by socially Darwinian, hyper-competitive individualism; it produces an unprecedented degree of social atomization and a lack of social commonality, and by extension less empathy.
I'm not one to appeal to 'empathy' as the issue, however, as I believe that its absence is merely a byproduct of everything else and not the primary, or foremost, driving force, BUT, when this absence of empathy is read as a symptom of something bigger, such a lack indicates a disconnect from each & every one human to another that extends beyond the basic alienation of personhood and instead relates to an alienation from society which is paradoxically conditioned within society itself. In other words, people don't feel 'apart' of the very same society which produces them, and as a consequence everyone scorns everyone else without any second consideration.
The final outcome of all this is an all-permeating attitude which effectively dehumanizes each real person found behind the function of their labor, and so, each individual is recognized only in a decontextualized sense, one which only concerns their labor power, like meat-machines relating solely to the ultimate purpose of provisionary utility.
The most disturbing, eschatological implication of this, then, is that even sectors such as 'therapy' etc. don't actually give a shit about you or anyone else when it comes to your deepest ends, rather, the interest is rendered under a purely economizing framework, devoid of fundamental co-humanity; 'getting better' = productive functionality, psychiatrically administered meds = zombifying the physical body as if it were one's whole being so that the subject can produce, so that it can work, without any concern for the socially mediated context in which said labor occurs. It is extraction. Theoretically, there's nothing wrong with this 'fixation' on labor, but the problem is that the operations herein are socially devoid and that they estrange each person from each other person to a degree that exceeds and accentuates the basic alienation we already enter into the world with. Thus, America has no coherent sense of community, in its vacuous stead, it feigns the appearance of meaningful relations only through various disintegrating niches, polarities of consumer-microcosmic-reified identity–any 'real' community is indeed very real, and this is where the 'society of the spectacle' type thinking gets everything wrong in assuming otherwise. The reality of such bonds, though, is that they exist only as a part of a diaspora, they do not relate to any broader totalizing collective, they mediate further individuation vis a vis their standing as yet another polarity amidst the sea, and the deepest bonds people get to experience, for example, marriage/love/sex etc. are still economized, cut off from an ethos which respects the society at large responsible for the production and participation of any two individuals who come together under it. So, there's an irony here, whereby even couples are still individualistic in their perception, in that they are self-abstracted from the broader belonging to which they are a comprised unit of, because any such broader belonging has yet to be coherently united or expressed as a totality. American nationalism, for instance, isn't even nationalism, it's an appeal to a specific and exclusionary subset of something which, in its historical formation, was always already a continual diaspora, so even here, you have more of an appeal to secession and the building of enclaves than a properly collectivizing recognition or resonance of each and every fellow man under one banner. So, in its contemporaneity, America, while still very much conducive to history at large, is a stranger to the realization of its own historicity, with most of its individuals recognizing that they do nonetheless contribute towards a real movement, but without the necessary understanding that any such movement is indebted to a deeper collective context: that of the people. The failure of recognition here impresses one with the misconception that there are only floating 'I' humans, no 'We'. This is how you end up with fatalist misreadings of the state of affairs like Fukayama's end of history. The prospect which still implies a potentially exploitable rift of hope here, however, is that most Americans don't resonate with Fukayama's message! His is still reserved only for those most divorced from societal participation at large, trust-fund kiddies and the like. The problem is, again, a confusion of recognition: It is not that Americans possess an inability to see history in all things, to see their own movement as generative of history too, but rather, that they do not collectivize the property of this phenomenon, they think of its occurrence and dynamism only in selfish and individually-heroic terms.
The last consequence of all of this 'disharmony' as it might be called, or disunity, is the social disarray of atomization. There has never been a single society in all of human history as atomized as current America, so of course you have mental illness and drug addiction running rampant: it's the decay of an economy which does not self-relate to the totality of those responsible for its sustenance and functionality, and thus whittles both itself and its constituents towards destitution. 'Fuck you, got mine', is the attitude of each crab in the bucket, each left alone even when together. Any help which may be received, is, again, therefore only ever an intervention set to reorient someone towards the same problematic perpetuity which originally sickened them, never intending upon systemic correction. The diaspora at hand, then, is not a strengthened 'diversity' but a pluralistic cacophony extending from hyper-individualistic identity-mongering, all to distract from the claim to a nation which knows the context of its own labor, and in so doing, prioritizes the people and the workers towards their own ends from within their own ends, materially satisfying them and thereby setting forth the precondition for the dissolution of atomization, bringing people together under a sense of commonality as per their engagement as workers proper. When history is known as made by the many, led by whomever represents & embodies them, only then does it assert itself without internal estrangement, possessing some self-articulative capacity. Again, the problem is not that America doesn't have history, for it does; instead the problem is that America sees its current history as very real, yet the nature of its reality assumes a plethora of technically separate atoms suspended in an economized (exploited economization, that is, the utilitarian social darwinist model derived from the alienation of labor, that which is operative without the collective spirit and the understanding of the driving force within human activity behind itself: the real economy of a totalized humanity) chaos.
No.989696
>>989000It has been well established that the FBI honeypots young Muslim men into planning or carrying out acts of terror, I thought this was common knowledge here. I'm not saying that that is what is happening with these mass shooters, but what I along with other people mentioned is well documented. If you don't believe me, I can find articles for you.
No.989702
>>989551>zoomers actually talk like this wtf the memes were real
No.989713
>>989700>Luke RudkowskiWho?
No.989763
>>989456>>989513CPUSA has been stuck in a Popular Front with the Democrats since the 30s, only until very recently did they stop explicitly endorsing Democrats in presidential elections.
The communist parties in Europe were much closer to the USSR and had more political stake in their respective governments, so felt more pressure to 'change with the times' and go socdem.
No.989765
>>989702t. has never interacted with a black person in his life
No.989793
>>989513Probably Gus Hall. I think in the CPUSA case, the people who wanted to shut the whole thing down and do something else left en masse in the early 90s. That's when Angela Davis and others left.
New York Times obituary in 2000 laffo:
>As long as the cold war raged, however, Mr. Hall's Soviet sponsors delighted in the presence of this unmistakably American comrade, an authentic product of the working class, nearer in spirit to Joe Sixpack, it seemed, than to Joe Stalin. A rock-jawed, barrel-chested six-footer, Mr. Hall weighed more than 200 pounds and had the powerful hands of the lumberjack and steelworker he had been in his youth. Simple in his tastes and habits, he was married to one woman, Elizabeth Turner, for 65 years, living with her in the three-bedroom house they bought in a middle-class neighborhood in Yonkers in 1962. She survives him, as do his two children, Barbara and Arvo, and three grandchildren.
>To his adversaries, Mr. Hall's rough-and-ready manner was a cynical pose that concealed a dedicated apparatchik. Even political associates sometimes found Mr. Hall's obeisance to the Soviet Union excessive, and they grumbled, especially in his later years, that his inflexible views and dictatorial personality were hampering the party and isolating it from the wider political world.
>I told Gus 10 years ago that he should be grooming new leadership, but he would have none of it, Carl Bloice, a former colleague, said in 1993. He sees himself as a man on a mission, the last holdout.[…]
>In 1991, as the Soviet Union was crumbling, Mr. Hall conducted a news conference at the party's Manhattan office, warning of a new wave of witch hunts and McCarthyism, but this time in the Soviet Union, which he had visited only a few months earlier.
>Asked if he had plans to visit again in the near future, he said no. Instead, he pointed to the world's last bastion of Stalinism.
>The world should see what North Korea has done, Mr. Hall said. ''In some ways it's a miracle.
>If you want to take a nice vacation, take it in North Korea. No.989799
i wonder how many channer who spaz out over AAVE are also the ones that babble on about the “rainbow fascists” policing speech
No.989802
>>989793>The world should see what North Korea has done, Mr. Hall said. ''In some ways, it's a miracle.If you want to take a nice vacation, take it in North Korea".
God, I miss Uncle Gus, he's 100000% times better than the current Gorbachevite scum who are running the CPUSA today.
No.989815
>>989799linguistic prescriptivism, not even once
No.989830
>>989692nice effortpost, good analysis
No.989841
>>989793I would love to read those transcripts of that 1991 conference. Gus really was a larger than life figure, every line i read about him my respect of him increases
No.989849
>>989793oh boy, 1991 would have been a bad fucking time to take a trip to the North
No.989866
Why can't these dumb ass shooters light up places that deserve it more than elementary schools?
No.989868
>>989866cause those places aren't soft targets which allow you to rack up an easy score
No.989869
>>989866kids can't fight back, i guess
No.989883
>>989866>that deserve it more than elementary schoolsThe way this is worded implies that elementary schools are at least somewhat deserving of a mass shooting
No.989894
>>989883My bad.
One part of me likes seeing America fall apart slowly.
Another part of me empathisizes with innocent proletarians
No.989909
The combined House/Senate vote total on Biden's $40 billion war package to Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and CIA "for Ukraine":
DEMS: 266-0
GOP: 198-68
INDEPENDENTS: 2-0
All dissent is from the GOP. Every last Dem (plus Sanders) voted YES. Not even one token NO vote for the left.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1529180698409680901?s=20&t=WXp1xMksyBagv3JiqrJjrQ No.989914
>>989909>dems>the leftThe opposition from the Reps is fake anyway, if the president was a Republican they would vote party line and there would be some token opposition from the Dems instead.
No.989918
>>989912The point is the misspelling you retard
No.989920
>>989918What misspelling? The tweet he replied to is spelled correctly.
No.989927
>>989918Learn to read before you call others retarded
No.989932
>>989804The second image is unironically correct though
No.989935
>>989918>>989920Okay you guys were right. Touché
No.989941
>>989932almost, but it’s rendered moot by the fact that its argument against military tech also applies to firearms
a well-armed militia can still be easily dismantled by police too
No.989965
>>989941this will never happen to /theirguys/ so it doesn't worry them
No.990037
>>989683The Chinese literally call it the People's War on Terror. Anyways, what's so bad about raising the material conditions of Uyghurs? Unless you believe the atrocity propaganda?
No.990041
>>990037I have no horse in this race, I just like the fact that I can't tell if you actually wrote Uygur or the n-word
No.990065
>>989683Xinjiang was going to turn into a warzone where the ethnat fundies were going to try and murder out the rest of the pop tbh. Situation was extremely dangerous and they were killing all the moderates and they attempted to assassinate the president lol
No.990066
>>990065I know a lot of leftoids believe terrorism and ethnat religious extremism is fine if the people doing it are relatively smol. But they’re wrong.
No.990068
>>989777>FAM KNOW WHAT IM SAYIN*Nah mean
No.990073
>>989692>sectors such as 'therapy' etc. don't actually give a shit about you or anyone elsei've been reading this book which makes that case really well. the author talks about it in the UK, but the mass adoption of CBT (i.e. it's all in your head, real issues should not be able to create depression) was motivated as a financial investment from the governments only because it got people back into the office and provided a return on investment.
another thing that has driven me insane recently is how Ketamine treatment for depression has been ruined through its regulation. it's an extremely cheap street drug but pharma's iteration of it (Spravado or some shit) is much less effective, difficult to access and extremely expensive with or without insurance. i think in most places in the US you WILL be given a bill if you try and fail to kill yourself and are confined to a mental hospital.
starting to think that because gun control is so unrealistic that social media hawking is going to be the main deterrent aimed at preventing this kind of stuff and overreach to extend control over the population. platforms would bend the knee so quickly.
it's cliched, but still i think there is still something to be said about just how poisonous social media can be on the brain that can only partially be understood with the typical leftist interpretations you would expect. this study out of germany talks about how teenagers on tiktok started going to doctors with legitimate Tourette's syndome symptoms, but nearly all of them obtained them by engaging with those communities on tiktok. the thing is, though, that they weren't necessarily faking it; it became a real mental illness that would actually torment them on it's own.
https://academic.oup.com/brain/article/145/2/476/6356504these sorts of things are always talked about with such astonishment by the 'experts' but really it's what happens when there's no intervention into these kind of platforms and their incentives are so fucked. i'm googling information like everybody else, but it's sickening to think about the economy around events like school shootings. i wonder how much ad revenue this latinx michael jackson creep made for CNN in the last 24 hours?
No.990078
>>990073More like Cock and Ball Torture
No.990097
Anyone know of an analysis of the psychology that causes an 18 year old to do a shooting? I'm trying to understand and it's really hard for me to understand how a child could do something like that. I can see it easier with an adult getting beaten down by life, but 18 years old, damn. I was just smoking weed and jerking off all day.
No.990105
>>990073That book is retarded. Therapy does work but the issue comes when certain therapeutic practices like CBT. ACT, DBT etc are applied to the wrong disorders and conditions. There is no guidelines as to what type of therapies people should take so they end up with the wrong treatment most of the time.
CBT is useful and works 100% for anxiety disorders, but it cannot be said the same for schizophrenia or depression or bipolar disorder and there really needs to be some sort of regulation or guidelines. This is why you get these "therapy doesn't work" schizos.
No.990116
>>990110Where are the fucking labels, how does he expect me to understand this image with no labels!?!?!?
No.990117
>>990110Literally WHAT did he mean by this??
No.990123
>>990116The one time he doesn't fill the image with labels and it's the time I feel like I need them. Maybe I was a retard all along and always needed the labels.
No.990125
>>990122Didn't the Republican incumbent basically rig the last election there?
No.990129
>>990105>CBT is useful and works 100% for anxiety disordershard disagree from personal experience
the only thing that even vaguely helped was exposure and meds
No.990130
>>990110the glowie trollface makes me think this is an edit
No.990131
>>990122>that George quoteGod I need to finish Progress and Poverty… George is amazing. I don't even really care about politics anymore, but still looking at that and then looking at the path the US actually went with is both breathtaking and depressing. It could have been so much better…
No.990137
>>990122Also I'm not bothering voting. If you're interested, gimme a lowdown on independent, third party, and write-in candidates though. I feel like Georgia has a left-libertarian undercurrent and I don't know if that's still going or not and I'm too lazy to bother looking myself.
No.990138
>>990125What do you mean anon?
Also forgot to mention that MTG is still the republican candidate. She won against the other repubs.
>Greene called Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell one of Congress’ “failed leaders” and said to loud applause that she’s part of a “majority who even now wants to see Hillary Clinton in jail.”>“Sending me back to Washington will send a message to the bloodsucking establishment: It is we who will set the policy agenda for the next decade and not them,” Greene said. She added: “We’re going to start speaking the truth more forcefully and more loudly than ever before.” No.990139
>>990134lmao it's a fucking advert for a right wing propaganda musical, no wonder it's incomprehensible
>Special Guest Post
>“Elephant in the Room”
>In an age of increasing political division, a woman has produced a unique musical that ties everything together. Scarlett Evans a young playwright and composer. She wrote “Elephant in the Room” as well as the musical score. She also stars in a leading role. It was my privilege to produce a promotional cartoon for the event. Here is her story:
>“Elephant in the Room” is a new and original musical comedy about achieving freedom of thought and navigating relationships, set to a backdrop of 2019 politics. It follows Kayla, a student at fictitious Eugene State College who struggles to identify truth and finally wins the fight to think for herself. As a free thinker, Kayla sides with the Right.
>The play has a surreal nature to it and symbolism is key. For example, the internet is personified. “Internet Troll” sews chaos and relishes in it. He incessantly trolls, influences, and pokes fun at any- and everyone, yet remains unacknowledged. The political spectrum is divided into 4 parts: Extreme Left (ANTIFA), Moderate Left, Moderate Right, and Extreme Right (the White Nationalists). The characters all wear hats and propagandistic clothes corresponding to their political affiliations, and, except for the two protagonists, the characters are called by their titles rather than names (“Homeless,” “Antifa Leader,” “White Nationalist Number 2,” “Feminist,” etc.).
>This piece is unique in that it does not portray the Right in a one-dimensionally-evil way; in fact, it presents the Right in a respectful manner. While each perspective is explored with sincerity, both are also equally made fun of!
>I intend to present an eye-opening snapshot of today’s society and encourage audiences to laugh at its ridiculousness, which will hopefully spark conversation and positive action.
>My own political journey unfolded as I researched and wrote this musical. I had avoided politics like a liberal trying to avoid Covid-19, but then decided to face it and find out what was true. That’s led me to stand firmly by the values which I hold today.
>I’m a recent college graduate with a background in music. I grew up classically trained and studied commercial music in college. After writing the book, music, and lyrics to “Elephant in the Room,” and now playing the role of “Kayla,” my background includes theater, as well! I’m thrilled to share this work with you and hope you find it meaningful.
>— Scarlett Evans
>To get your free tickets, go to the website ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM – Musical (elephantmusical.com). No.990141
>>990139>>The play has a surreal nature to it and symbolism is key. For example, the internet is personified. “Internet Troll” sews chaos and relishes in it. He incessantly trolls, influences, and pokes fun at any- and everyone, yet remains unacknowledged. The political spectrum is divided into 4 parts: Extreme Left (ANTIFA), Moderate Left, Moderate Right, and Extreme Right (the White Nationalists). The characters all wear hats and propagandistic clothes corresponding to their political affiliations, and, except for the two protagonists, the characters are called by their titles rather than names (“Homeless,” “Antifa Leader,” “White Nationalist Number 2,” “Feminist,” etc.).no wonder Ben likes it fucking kek
No.990143
Can someone explain the idea the feds instigate mass shootings to grab guns?
shouldn't they have grabbed the guns long time ago then?
what's stopping them?
No.990148
>>990110what's the papist doing up there in the right corner?
No.990149
>>990129CBT is a form of exposure though and there is scientific evidence that it has worked for many. Sorry to hear it didn't work for you, but for many others including myself who had the OG of anxiety disorders (panic disorder) it does work.
No.990150
>>990144The message is just 'Biden's destroying America.' He's just combining the gas pump sticker thing with the ending of Planet of The Apes.
No.990154
>>990137God, dude, i have no idea who the third oarty people even are. I signed up as a nonpartisan voter yesterday and there were only people running for courtroom justice positions. None of them were running for governor, senator, secstate or anything of the sort. ALSO the shit is straight RIGGED. I switched party preference before i voted, and i realized that third party voters cant vote for who is running for the two party's positions in government, but if you identify as one of the two parties you can vote for any of the third party candidates you want. It gives no incentive whatsoever to identify as nonpartisan. Maybe im low autism score but nonpartisans not being able to choose the republicans or democrats who run for governor? Bullshit!
Anyway yeah the shit's rigged.
No.990155
>>990122Also, if there's any question (lol) Kemp is probably going to win. Abrams may or may not have been robbed in the last governor's race (something sketchy was probably going on, but it's unlikely she would have won anyway), but she doesn't have as much momentum as before outside of the party loyals. Kemp generated a lot of momentum against him in his initial run with his weird inbred hillbilly shotgun wedding ads, but those were mostly an act.
No.990156
>>990144Not really. The conservative pathology is projected fear and perpetual victim-hood. That which they complain about is their deepest fear about themselves through the lens of their own denial. (Every conservative complaint is a self-report)
Humanity ends the world, fails to produce peace/fails to prevent war? Other guy did it. Not me. Strong men don't make mistakes and don't allow the world to go to shit. World goes to shit? Local or Globally? Other guy, not me. Individualism. All men are islands isolated from the universe entirely in solipsistic wonderland(s).
Do it to Julia! Not ME!
https://youtu.be/_mxGA05qPeo?t=285by contrast.
If you are looking for the guilty, you need only look in the mirror. Some are more guilty than others, but you allowed yourself to listen to those who told you to be afraid.
https://youtu.be/dKnjxT5HRJQ No.990157
>>990154Also most of the third party candidates are libertarian. Probably because republicans and democrats are allowed to choose who runs for third party positions.
No.990158
>>990154iirc if you're an registered independent, you can participate in the Democratic primaries, but not the Republican.
No.990159
>>990154Wait you vote in GA or are you just talking about your state?
No.990161
>>990156>Humanity ends the world, fails to produce peace/fails to prevent war? Other guy did it. Not me. Strong men don't make mistakes and don't allow the world to go to shit. World goes to shit? Local or Globally? Other guy, not me. Individualism. All men are islands isolated from the universe entirely in solipsistic wonderland(s).Great man theory and it's consequences. Grand historical forces are scary and make me feel unmanly.
No.990168
>>990159Yeah i voot. Mostly cuz georgia is a purple state, battleground state. I want to help the republican southern strategy collapse.
No.990175
>>990168But do you live here tho?
No.990177
Also would u like to sit in my lap?
No.990190
>>990188Nevermind then lmao
I guess it's a funny coincidence since 12 Monkeys is also about a pandemic
No.990193
>>990188>>990190in the accompanying rant he brings up the movie
No.990194
>>990170we also have to address the power of money in all of these situations, the older generations will have more by default thus more power.
it's not enough to just get rid of biden to just replace him with a fresh cuck like Buttigieg
No.990196
>>990184You wanna sit in my lap tho?
No.990198
>>990105>>990149>That book is retardeddamn you're a fast reader
>CBT. ACT, DBTthe last two are essentially just second/third wave CBT
>are applied to the wrong disorders and conditionsthat author of that book talks a bit about how actually in the studies used to deem the efficacy of therapy treatments and drugs that co-morbid psychological issues are often excluded. so if they are researching if it helps somebody with depression, they may not include participants with serious anxiety disorders, substance abuse issues, etc. some studies on depression will not include patients who are simply too depressed to show up consistently or patients who are too old and who may have health issues in the long term. the study groups are very specific and unrealistic and these studies assume every 'disorder' can be neatly and clearly parced out. but the key clinical data-driven-autism evidence does go to great lengths to make sure everybody is in a specific disorder category.
not trying to suggest that therapy is useless but that it 1. is driven more so by a desire to make money than to help people and 2. is not nearly as effective as it claims to be. it's true that the CBT and CBT-derivative stuff is over-applied to people with other disorders, but good luck finding a therapist who is trained to think outside of those terms. i think the "therapy doesn't work schizos" have a pretty good case
don't you think it's kind of odd the sway towards 'mental health awareness' for millennials and especially zoomers is occurring simultaneously with rises in suicides, depression, mass killings, etc?
No.990204
>>990196Sorry bro im too ugly cuz im mtftm detransitioner gigahon 41%er its over legit you would prolly just puke if u saw me
No.990205
>>990184What happened between 1960-1970? Is that the effect of suburbia and cars?
No.990212
>>990204Nah, that sounds like my type. Wanna hit me up?
No.990216
>>990205I'd guess cleaning up/taking care of "obsolescense" after the Eisenhower highways were built
No.990223
>>990220There was a conspiracy to downplay the severe effects of lead for over a century
one to hide the effects of chemical poisoning
a fruit company told the government to coup an independent government
No.990270
>>990223>a fruit company told the government to coup an independent governmenttbf CIA director Allen Dulles had a strong incentive to go along with it because he was invested in United Fruit
the pathetic thing is, Jacobo Arbenz wasn't even doing anything particularly revolutionary. He was seizing *unused* United Fruit land. 200,000 acres of undeveloped land that they weren't paying property taxes on. In exchange for the land seizure he waived their unpaid taxes. They couped him over what was a pretty fair deal even by capitalist standards.
No.990315
>>990312
OOF
No.990330
>>990327Artichoke: Spree shootings are advertisements for AR-15s
No.990334
>>990330The Buffalo grocery store shooting legit looks like an ad for an FPS.
No.990336
>>990327 I wonder if you get ragged on in the spree killer community if you use a different gun. Like you a guy with an AK-47 would be a hipster.
No.990340
>>990336>the spree killer community Normal country things
No.990350
>>990327I’m on board with the “it’s the AR-15” theory. All this meaningless soul searching and complaining about American malaise is getting nowhere. Let’s take away all the AR-15s and see what happens.
No.990354
>>990336The spree shooting community is going wild with the latest trendsetting kindergarten massacre committed with a HK416
No.990360
>>990166Why's his right eye jaundiced?
No.990363
These shootings are just the price we have to pay for my insane fantasy where black and indigenious union workers fight off pinkertons or something outside the Amazon warehouses
No.990369
>>990073If we just made street ket legal as used though we would have even more trouble around abuse and long term kidney damage under the guise of self-medicating depression (which is not going to work).
Ketamine in the therapeutic sense should absolutely be through proper medical experts and street-ket usage for these reasons should be discouraged.
No.990379
>>990316i mean its always gun free zones where shootings happen
No.990381
>>990379Didn't the elementary school where this guy's daughter died have armed guards though?
No.990402
>>990316This guy's daughter was shot at Parkland. By this guy.
School shooters don't seem to care about the victims' political alignment too much.
No.990403
>>990316yeah he's just gonna double down on that posture, probably even resent people that use this to advance gun regulation, because the idea that guns are a deterrent against shooters is practically magical thinking. i'm sorry for him regardless.
No.990406
>>990396obviously garbage comic but Biden's empty thought bubble is really getting me
No.990408
>>990402It's GOD's will brudder let HIM sort em out. Murica!
US pastor, who believes floods are God's punishment, flees flooded home
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-37116661 No.990410
>>990392But at least the armed good guys saved the school though.
No.990411
>>990408>US pastor, who believes floods are God's punishment, flees flooded homekek
No.990414
>>990368pretty sure 4chan /k/ is a thing already
No.990415
Don't know about you guys but I'm convinced that the US is finally collapsing
No.990416
>>990415you mean because of this recent shootings? i'm way too desensitized to understand the impact it's having.
No.990417
>>990415It's about time, honestly. Did the fall of the USSR look like this?
No.990420
>>990417Gerontocracy, check
No.990422
>>990396the 2020 primaries made it clear the DNC will NEVAH EVAH let another Bernie happen, from now on it's nothing but ghouls even at the lowest levels of the apparatus
No.990428
>>990396Cisneros down to 175 vote gap and closing. Recount expected. Cuellar in Trumpian/Buttigieg fashion declares victory without formal call from authorities.
Cuellar declares victory as race remains too close for official call
https://www.lmtonline.com/local/article/Cuellar-declares-victory-as-race-remains-too-17197166.php“Dr. Oz should declare victory. It makes it much harder for them to cheat with the ballots that they ‘just happened to find,’” Trump said on Truth Social, the social media platform that he helped found.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/18/trump-dr-oz-should-declare-victory-pennsylvania-00033420Pete Buttigieg claims victory in Iowa before the results are in
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/4/21122122/pete-buttigieg-iowa-victory-speech No.990431
>>990428as the crisis of class conflict deepens, the bourgeoisie begin to abandon democracy before they even think about abandoning capitalism
No.990437
>>990417gorbachev literally said "make ussr great again" [wid my reform uygha]
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