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>>>/leftypol_archive/489758>>>/leftypol_archive/490907>Protests started for gas prices raise two days ago>Rapidly became widespread>Government resigned few hours ago<Protestors started storming palaces of government and institutions all around the country>CSTO called in, effect unclear yet>no response yet from the westOld thread full, continue discussion here
No.491984
>>677933
New thread Once this one hits 600 posts
No.491985
>>491592>socialist metaphysicsLMAO
>>491733Based. Assuming dogmatic retards need to check themselves and refrain from jumping to conclusions. Materialist analysis must be upheld.
>>491813Great post.
No.491986
>>491982Here's hoping. At least they can use the unrest as a lesson in class consciousness for the Kazahkstan working class.
No.491988
>>491987>pause at the end to slide down the hill a bitlmao how whimsical
No.491989
>>491800No the point is that this vulgar position that if it's muh workers doing it, it must automatically be good and you don't have to take anything else into account.
No.491990
>>491985China is also imperialist, in fact they will be the new imperialist superpower that needs to be beaten back by the international proletariat unless they return to a socialist line of development and reject national chauvinism
No.491993
>>491991(you): *supports Nazi Germany and imperialist Japan*
No.491994
>>491990In current conditions, China is incapable of being imperialist. The United States absorbed the European imperialist apparatus that was left in tatters after the second World War creating a single, super-imperialist entity which basically holds a monopoly on imperialism. All the major imperialist institutions are now under one umbrella and international law basically only allows for US-NATO imperialism. Wannabe imperialist institutions cannot grow because they're muscled out by US-NATO and cannot be enforced because they'd come into conflict with US-NATO and would immediately lose, and lose in such a way that would be several times worse than whatever they were trying to gain by enforcing their imperialism.
No.491995
>>491982Check this out comrade, courtesy of based news anon: Statement by the Socialist Movement of Kazakhstan on the situation in the country
In a statement about the large-scale mobilizations and protests in the country, the Socialist Movement of Kazakhstan calls for international solidarity to the demonstrators and demands the withdrawal of troops from the cities, the resignation of all Nazarbayev officials, the release of all political prisoners and detainees, the legalization of the Communist Party and trade unions, as well as the nationalization of Kazakhstan's entire extractive and large-scale industry.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2022/01/statement-by-socialist-movement-of-kazakhstan-on-the-situation-in-the-country.htmlhttps://archive.is/WOmYK No.491996
>>491990Communist countries cant be imperialist
No.491997
Anti imperialist UK stands in solidarity against violent terrorist rioters challenging the Kazakhstan revolutionary government.
We must follow the party line and call for the Russian troops to put down these hooligans and restore LAW AND ORDER!
https://twitter.com/patrickwintour/status/1479169654551724039?s=20 No.491998
>>491994Imperialism does not require gunboat diplomacy. China can just outbid the west for market share in the comprador regimes, as they are doing now.
No.492000
>>491996I agree. They are not communist or socialist.
No.492001
>>491999Not true. Example: France in Africa.
No.492002
>>491996>China<CommunistNot even the CPC themselves says they are communist, they say they are in the early stages of socialism.
No.492003
>>491995Based.
I will say it again:
I WANT TO BELIEVE!
No.492004
>>491998>comprador regimesI don't see the Chinese overthrowing governments. Nor do I see their version of the NED.
No.492005
>>492004I haven't see it either but they do utilize and fund comprador regimes like in the Philippines
No.492006
>>492004> they do utilize and fund comprador regimesThe Philippines is funded by China? Really?
No.492007
>>492001France is a part of NATO, the American imperialist bloc.
No.492010
>>492006They also sell arms to India. Actually they make deals or outright collaborate with many states that are killing maoists.
No.492012
>>492008Kautsky lived before WWII. If he said something like that, it was wrong for the time he lived in, but came true after WWII. Things change, you see. It's wrong to read theory like the Bible and assume that imperialism is and will always be like how Lenin described it in 1917.
No.492013
>>492012Just like it's wrong to assume that the conditions which predominates in the immediate postwar conditions apply today.
No.492014
>>491823>give citizenship (and therefore rights) to migrant laborers from KazakhstanYeah, not gonna happen
No.492015
>>492013The only significant thing that changed after the postwar period is the collapse of the USSR, which massively strengthened the position of the US-NATO imperialist bloc. US-NATO is *stronger* and *more hegemonic* than it was in the postwar period.
No.492016
>>491825Lenin had a party, these guys have a book club.
What they're saying in the post is that they don't currently have an organization sufficient to do shit about the protests one way or another.
No.492017
China
No.492018
where is the riot kino
No.492019
>>491958>Why can’t burgers do this?Something something the poor something something something temporarily embarrassed gorillionaires…
t. Steinbeck
maybe No.492020
"The US holds a monopoly on imperialism"
>Israel has entered the chat
>Saudi Arabia has entered the chat
>Turkey has entered the chat
>Iran has entered the chat
And that's just MENA. And I'm probably forgetting some country too.
No.492021
>>492020Iran is not on the same level as first three.
No.492026
>>492025I'm saying it's not good to make that equivalency.
No.492027
>>491960Things are shaky right now so they are playing it safe, at least with their families.
But it shows that this is more than the sunday protest, and more than some gilets jaunes.
what is the current info on the bloc intervention?
No.492029
>>491978Meanwhile, which communist party is not supporting it? That's right, CPUSA lmao.
No.492030
Unlock the fourth thread uyghur jannies
No.492031
>>492029right now the KKE is the only major ML party officialy supporting this i think the other parties are still debating
No.492032
>>492031when I said not supporting I mean supporting the Kazakhstan government, sorry
No.492033
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