No.501865[Last 50 Posts]
Let's mantain the civil discussion we were having in the last thread.
Last thread got full.
Fizzle or Sizzle - you decide.
TO WATCH FOR NEWS:
https://liveuamap.com/Live updates from Texan commie boomer in Donbass:
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTexacFor Russiabros, analysis from Boris Rozhin:
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ (has a telegram, lots of cool stuff there too)
No.501867
>>761156
>slavs
>white
No.501868
GUYS TURN ON CNN MACRON JUST INVADED RUSSIA
No.501870
WIDE PUTLER 😳
No.501872
It's over. Stop posting
No.501877
MY ROOMMATE JUST ATE A MACARON
No.501878
Reposting
>>761104Found some somewhat corroborating "sources" on Mariupol breakthrough
>Feroces combates entre las milicias de la RPD y el ejército Ucraniano cerca de Mariupol. Video de posiciones ucranianas"https://nitter.net/DOGDEGA/status/1495585700422598656#mThis one apparently from DPR channel
>Massive bombardment by Ukraine, internet keeps cutting out, he talked to some of the people he knows who are stationed near Mariupol front, they say that Ukraine has made a breakthrough in the frontline.https://nitter.net/Archb98/status/1495590607384989699#m No.501879
>>501868Will he face Bonaparte's fate?
No.501881
US President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin have agreed in principle to a summit over Ukraine, the office of French President Emmanuel Macron said, provided Russia does not invade its neighbor.
In a statement released early Monday, the Elysee Palace said Macron had pitched both leaders on a summit over "security and strategic stability in Europe.”
"Presidents Biden and Putin have both accepted the principle of such a summit," the statement said, before adding that such a meeting would be impossible if Russia invaded Ukraine as Western nations fear it plans to.
The White House did not immediately return a message seeking comment.
The announcement - released after a volley of phone calls between Macron and leaders on both sides of the Atlantic - comes after a week of heightened tensions spurred by Russia's military buildup up and down the Ukrainian border.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-temporarily-closes-checkpoint-donbass-due-shelling-2022-02-20/ No.501884
>>501878DPR bros pls dont get shafted…
No.501886
>>501878calling bullshit right now tbh
No.501887
VLADIMOLF JUST INVADED MY COLON
INTERMITTENT SHIDDING AND FARDING HEARD AT LINE OF CONTACT
No.501888
>>501869How soon is ASAP, and what the fuck new could US bring to the negotiating table?
>Zelensky not invitedsubtle
No.501889
>>761236
UIGHUR UIGHUR UIGHUR UIGHUR UIGHUR
I DONT LIKE PEOPLE FROM XINJIANG AND THEIR ETHNIC PERSUASION
BECAUSE THEY START WITH U AND UKRAINE STARTS WITH U TOO
No.501890
>>761236This is Marxism
>>501882Josimir Statin
No.501891
>>501869That's a hamburger, not a macaroon.
No.501892
Posting in epic retard shitposting thread
No.501893
>>501892News, but its joker-pilled
No.501894
>>501883I wonder what the US would think if they had a civil war 20 miles from the border and one side just starts pushing down the very obvious main highway with fuck-all other than farmland between you.
Ukraine looking sus. Any steps Russians take would be justified by any sane standard. Is this how it begins?
No.501895
>>501892Welcome fellow Zioputlerist
No.501896
>>501894There already were reports of Ukrainian shells being sent into Russia proper. We're kind of past that.
No.501898
>>501865This Happooner shit is so Lame it’s not even funny, 😂.
No.501899
>>501896it was literally a handful that fell into empty fields lel, it was a clear staged incident. you don't have to be a NATOfag to see that Russia is literally putting in minimum effort with the false flags, like even a /pol/yp could do better.
No.501902
>>501900Macronaparte + Putler = communism
No.501903
>>501878So the Russians could be faking a Ukrainian assault now after which they'll have reason to invade. The 21st is the day some Duma leaders predicted a "Ukrainian" assault to begin.
No.501904
>>501900What's the French angle in all this, anyway? Need help with Mali?
No.501905
>>761236
FERDINAND LASALLE, THE-
No.501906
ITS OVER YOU DOOMPILLED SCHIZO HAPPENING FAGGOTS
IT WAS ALWAYS OVER
No.501909
>>761236
Ferdinand Lassalle is already dead, anon
No.501911
How much until the west starts talking about holodomor 2.0?
No.501912
Plus it's like 5-6 am over there, if anything is happening it'll happen now.
No.501913
>>501903Could be, of course. Fog of war et cetera
>>501904Idk but Die Linke MP suggested that "private side of French army" (FFL?) Is already in Ukraine
No.501914
>>501908there's no way Ukraine is going to attack, it's Russian propaganda even more retarded than the American bullshit.
No.501915
>>501914DPR/LPR have not been recognized by the Duma
No.501916
>>501914Battle of Ilovaysk moment - the ukrops are deranged
No.501917
>>501914I agree it's probably Russian propaganda but it's less insane if you're as convinced as I am that Russia will not occupy the republics with official troops/missiles
No.501919
>>501882Does anyone remember that weird guy on twitter who claimed the USSR was coming back as a union between Russia and Ukraine?
No.501920
Josimir Statin moment
No.501921
>>501918Holy shit do you work for the State Department?
No.501923
>>501922There was a similar vid, supposedly from Kursk yesterday. Tanks rolling down highway, not worth finding again
No.501925
>>501922Kinda makes you wonder what kind of traitor would film their own military making moves and then link it to foreign social media.
American police would kill you for filming less sensitive material.
No.501926
>>501925I know what you mean but the military does not appear too guarded over it. Even western analyst are surprised by it
It could be that they actually do want it recorded to show how powerful their arsenal is. Just theory
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1493150061714366465?s=20&t=6hEpo8TMlSnZby2YUeFPDw No.501927
Nothingborscht of a country continues to try to play their NATO masters while admitting the obvious:
>Ukrainian defence minister Oleksiy Reznikov says Russia hasn’t formed a single battle-ready group along the Ukrainian border yet. “So talking about an attack happening tomorrow or day after tomorrow is inappropriate. But it doesn’t mean low risks”. (Give us more weapons anyways)He also said:
>Reznikov said he was expecting that Ukraine-themed Duma session on Feb 22 would result in Russia withdrawing from Minsk agreements. I assume he means recognition of the “republics”.Why the fuck would they do that lol
https://nitter.net/leonidragozin/status/1495490182069600265#m No.501930
>>501927I mean if you watch the amount equipment Russia has laid out if they really did want to attack they would have the capacity already.
The disagreement here is that don't believe they have that intent to attack. This guy responded to that ukranian officials claim.
Given he's just a literal who but i don't think he is wrong
No.501931
>>501930But paired with his other statement about Russia not hiding anything from normal people, they are willing to allow Ukraine the maximum amount of preparation? I think it is impossible that Ukraine gov't doesn't know what ex-USMC @RALee85 knows, but they might know that Russia will not invade and don't want to admit it because the threat benefits them with aid.
No.501934
>>501933That would be epic
No.501935
>>501933The funniest thing about this would be that ZERO angloids would learn about anything besides Zelensky's sudden plans to invade Poland
No.501938
>>501937I hope he kills himself after the war doesn't happen and he doesn't get to see the burning chinaman flesh he so craves to witness
No.501939
>>501937Agent Kochinski is like the opposite of Aimee terese
He tried to be so contrarian against muh "tankies" that he came a picture perfect Hillary supporter.
Aimee tried so hard to be against muh wokes that she became female Ben Shapiro
No.501942
>>501938I hope the war does happen and he actually "survives" on the edge of a nuclear blast, so he can die slower.
No.501943
>>501941
Based JVPTER is stopping the war from happening.
Expect more Atlantic council money to Zemmur campaign
No.501944
>>501937Why can't this fat faggot just shut his mouth and be rich? his dad is a hollywood executive, he could quit being a youtuber and do nothing for the rest of his life.
No.501945
>>501943>>501941Zemmour opinion Russia Ukraine is better than macron. Atlantic council would not fund this
https://www.lesechos.fr/elections/presidentielle/ukraine-eric-zemmour-ne-croit-pas-a-une-invasion-russe-1388350Fears of a conflict have probably never been so strong, but Eric Zemmour wants to be optimistic. Guest of the Grand rendez-vous Europe 1 - CNews - "Les Echos", the presidential candidate said he was "skeptical" about a possible invasion of Ukraine by Russia. "I confess to you that I don't believe it, but I could be wrong," he said, because "there is a lot of propaganda" from the United States and Russia.
For the polemicist, the diplomatic efforts of the French presidency are commendable but vain. “I think Emmanuel Macron is trying to avoid war. He is basically right but I think his approach is doomed to failure, he said. We are seen by the Russians as the little telegraphers from Washington who will report to the boss, who is Joe Biden. Our word is worth nothing. »
While defending the idea of a “peaceful” relationship with Moscow, Eric Zemmour nevertheless wants “the borders and national sovereignty of each country” to be respected. But considers that the extension of NATO constitutes a "major geopolitical problem" and is "seen as an aggression by Russia". Consequently, the candidate advocates the signing of a “great European pacification treaty”. It would require the Russians to respect Ukrainian borders and would require Westerners never to integrate Ukraine into NATO.
No.501946
>>501866okay this is starting to get ridiculous
No.501947
>>501944Holy shit it's actually true. Väush grew up in Beverly Hills and his parents are millionaires. Agent Kochinskilore is the gift that keeps on giving.
No.501948
>>501945Amazingly, the right wingers have been more antiwar in their rhetoric than liberals, at least in Burgeria. I think it is all cynical and fake, e.g. I think Trump droned even more people than Obama, but they aren't afraid to call out liberal warmongering. They are coopting much of the public space for antiwar speech usually inhabited by lefty types. Idk about France though.
No.501949
>>501947>a fucking literal 90210God I wish I saved that post which just absolutely btfo's anarchism by examining how and why upper class dipshits get attracted to it.
No.501950
>>501918based numerologist
No.501952
>>501944The urge to grift is genetic and instinctual
No.501954
>>501951Based Slav tiktok
No.501955
>>501951i wasn't aware people were accusing belarus of getting involved.
No.501957
>>501951Lukashenko: "Chill out bro, go back to your continent, we'll handle this."
Zemmour: "I don't think Russia will invade. I could be wrong maybe, but meh, whatever."
Putin: "We don't want Donbass. Ukrainian territorial sovereignty should be respected."
American political class:
AAAAAAAHHHHHHH OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA No.501959
>>761559
>this might be the first time in history an entire sequence of events is fabricated and then treated as historical fact.
No, it's very common for that to happen.
No.501960
>>501948>Amazingly, the right wingers have been more antiwar in their rhetoric than liberals, at least in Burgeria. I think it is all cynical and fake, e.g. I think Trump droned even more people than Obama, but they aren't afraid to call out liberal warmongering.Yeah it's pretty cynical. There are a few Ron Paul-esque libertarians like Justin Amash but the Republicans like to play this double game where they'll use antiwar rhetoric for one audience while declaring that Democrats are weak against our "enemies" on the other hand. Remember that George W. Bush used "antiwar" rhetoric in 2000. The Democratic Party's base is much more open to idea of the U.S. striking a deal with Russia to avoid war.
This is why it's a mistake to confuse what politicians say with their voters. This is why I think the "patsocs" won't get very far because they confuse that cynical political rhetoric with the actual opinion of MAGA country. To be sure, MAGA country is a mix of opinions too but I think communists would have more success with tailored messages to the 31% of strong Democrat voters here saying "you don't like Nazis but did you know the U.S. is arming Nazis in Ukraine?" Introduce that contradiction.
>>501949>God I wish I saved that post which just absolutely btfo's anarchism by examining how and why upper class dipshits get attracted to it.I think anarchism's preference for individualism and small groups appeals to petit-bourgeois types who don't have experience being a cog in a very large organization (like, say, an Amazon warehouse).
No.501961
>>501957Wtf, Zemmour? I meant Zelensky.
No.501962
>>501960>much more open to idea of the U.S. striking a deal You forget the libs have 6 years of russiagate brainwashing
No.501963
>>501958
At least that had some legitimacy because the US gave chemical weapons to Hussein in the 80s, lol. The Putler meme has only Russiagate-inspired neo-Mccarthysm to stand on.
No.501964
>>501960>This is why I think the "patsocs" won't get very far because they confuse that cynical political rhetoric with the actual opinion of MAGA country. There is no such thing as an actual opinion held by the republican political base. I'm related to some of these people. I see their opinions change 180 degrees on a dime every 4 years, as though Invasion of the Body Snatchers happened, once "Le Based Man" steps out of office and "Le Cringe Man" steps in, and the narrative on Fox News changes.
No.501965
>>501960Yeah but Tucker Carlson has had Aaron Mate and Jimmy Dore on to talk about US warmongering. (Not a fan of Dore). Can't imagine liberal media ever doing anything like that. The voters have no idea what's really going on and will do whatever they're told, but this is more than just forgotten claims of politicians, this new Trump-inspired "isolationism" (never actually a coherent concept, even during Woodrow Wilson) has real staying power in the rightist media.
No.501966
>>501953I envy your ignorance of Agent Kochinski. I try to actively avoid him, and still am exposed to his horseshit too much.
I'll let someone else ruin your day by posting that
>As an Anarchist - "Fuck the FBI." But…clip.
No.501968
>>501967If seems DPR forces are reporting that a Ukrainian group blew up a depot filled with artillery rockets.
No.501969
>>501959I want to use this opportunity to remind people that Stalin did not purge 700k people to death, it's a pure fabrication treated as a historical fact.
No.501970
>>501882>USSR had lists of undesireables for Poland and Baltics in 1939-45Lolwut
No.501971
What's the name of that list the ukrops keep of pro russian people?
No.501972
>>501970Katyn massacre for one. Whether you believe it was justified or not is a different matter.
No.501973
>>501970>Vaps>Iron Wolf>PērkonkrustsI'd
hope they had lists.
No.501975
You know, sometimes I wish someones slipped a catastrophic number of times and caused nuclear Armageddon.
No.501976
>>501970I’m willing to bet that it’s lists of nazis and other reactionary elements
No.501978
>>501977if you're quiet you can hear a low, faint sizzling
No.501979
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1495672418911891457?cxt=HHwWgsC92f-I2cEpAAAA
>LPR reports that more than 400 volunteers from Russia came to LPR and joined their forces & volunteers from other countries of the former USSR are coming.
<People from the USSR reuniting to fight fascistsWhy am I crying at the uni right now?
No.501982
WTF TURN ON THE NEWS THE EVIL AND DASTARDLY VLADOLF PUTLER JUST NUKED NAIROBI (Ukraine capital I think) WTF WTF I'M CRYING AND SHAKING RIGHT NOW BROS HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
No.501983
AAAAAAAAAAA IT'S HAPPENING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No.501986
HOLY SHIT, I INVITED PUTLER OVER FOR A SMOKE, AND HE WON'T PASS THE BLUNT
No.501987
>>501985>>501982DUse making the same shit joke again and again isn't actually very funny and only makes it extremely difficult for anyone to actually follow what's going on, please stop or at least take the meme shit to Siberia so the rest of us can follow the
nothabbening.
No.501988
>>501984>>501981Where do these updates come from? Post link pls.
No.501993
>>501984>clashes reached border of Russia>looks at mapSo the Ukrainians really broke through? how come the Rebels held on for years and are now folding in an instant? is there something I am missing? This must be the biggest Ukrainian territorial gain in like … 5 years?
No.501997
DPR declares a state of emergency
No.501998
>>501960I hate people like you more than any Republican demcorat anything. You try to manipulate people into your belief that democrats are this anti war group.
Every indication today has shown how things have flipped and Democrats push for war way more
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3835 No.501999
>>501998nta but what does it matter if the partisan politicsalign one way or the other? Like, republicans were seething Afghanistan wasn't razed to the ground before leaving. Maybe are support for a particular imperialist enterprise is just a matter of who's in power and who's in the opposition at the time.
Like if it was the republican party starting this shit, as they will no doubt do after the change of turn, wouldn't the repoublican base be totally a-ok with
their war?
No.502000
>>501987>noooo my habbeding threadjust go look for the news yourself
No.502001
>>501999Here is a lot more data. Republicans favor leaving NATO more, support stopping Ukraine from joining NATO more, are more against troops being sent to help ukraine, more against financial aid to Ukraine, more against weapons to Ukraine etc. Read it over
Some cannot let go that the Republican party today is not the same party of George bush
No.502003
>>501998>>762047>>502001>>502002Review these 4 post with data and you'll see Republicans are more against conflict today than Democrats
No.502004
>muh red vs blue
blue man wants to fuck with russia
red man would rather fuck with china
simple as
No.502005
>>502003Republicans only oppose war when a Democrat is in the white house
No.502006
>>502002Oh yeah? Here are the based antiwar republicans on Afghanistan from 2021(same site):
https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/3gw2x4kv4w/econTabReport.pdfRepublicans support both fighting the Afghanistan war, in the present, and remaining there.
Also, as it turns out both parties voters equally supported with ~50%:
<These days, do you think the United States has a responsibility to give military assistance in trouble spots around the world when it is asked to by its allies, or don’t you think the United States has that responsibility?Again, partisan politics. both parties are pro war, pro military spending, against social benefits and pro imperialism. It's just a matter of playing with when and what they support at a given time in the USA's domestic politics.
No.502007
Looks like the DPR is asking russia for financial and military assistance.
No.502009
>>502008So wait, now the Rebels are attacking government positions?
No.502010
>>502009Might be some sort of counter-attack.
No.502011
>>502004lol imagine supporting either party on a chinese communist cartoon forum
No.502012
Russia MoD reports Ukrainian shell hit Russian border post in Rostov.
No.502013
>>501998>>762047Silly anon, Democrats want war with Russia and Republicans want war with China, get it together
No.502014
>>502011It's not about supporting it's about recognizing where we are with the population of the voters today
Republicans are also far less likely to support the FBI CIA etc today + news
When these data points are brought up those that inside do prefer Democrats but want to keep saying "ha I'm a communist hate both" get really defensive over democrata
https://news.gallup.com/poll/355130/job-ratings-key-federal-agencies-decline.aspxhttps://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/08/30/partisan-divides-in-media-trust-widen-driven-by-a-decline-among-republicans/ No.502017
>>502016>Usa population support for a war that is in the works is off topic when U.S hegemony is what controls what action is taken right now No
No.502018
The thing about Republicans is that they'll suddenly be a-ok with all of these things as soon as their guy is doing them.
No.502019
>>501941
Fizzlegang will prevail.
No.502020
>>501994you cant just go home when war starts - the opposite is true, you will have to work extra hours with being guarded by soldiers cause the war needs you, tovarich.
For real war is pretty bad.
No.502021
>>502014>When these data points are brought up those that inside do prefer Democrats but want to keep saying "ha I'm a communist hate both" get really defensive over democrataBecause "noooo you have to support the based anti-imperialist GOP" gets old even faster than VOOT BLUU to save democracy.
No.502022
This is probably really unpopular here to say but today I don't disbelieve the theory that Tulsi Gabbard does have ties to Russia in some manner
Her commitment to incessantly defend Russia in this conflict day in day out on her twitter since the beginning is suspect.
I know to many here that is favorable and good which is fine but it is weird and the RT editor in chief had big praise for her other day
https://mobile.twitter.com/TulsiGabbardhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-interview-with-putin-demanded-by-margarita-simonyan No.502023
>>502005cope. We had Trump and it was the NYT and consorts crying the loudest for him to shoot more missiles.
While covering the fact about his drone bombings since they were not wanting them to be disrupted
No.502024
>>502022Wasn't it confirmed that she had ties to the Syrian government? This would not surprise me tbh.
But tbf skimming through her tweets, I dont see some incessant defense of Russia unless you see "uh guys, maybe Ukraine isnt the shining example of liberal democracy? Maybe intervention… bad?" as being a telltale sign of being a russian shill.
>Russia’s Top Propagandists Beg for a Putin Interview with Tucker Carlsonthis would be peak Kino, I hope they do it
No.502026
>>502022hello mr federal agent. No, not wanting a costly and lost war that could trigger ww3 is not being "tied to russia" you absolute fucking glowie. Not constantly provoking a nuclear power because you wanna rule the world is UNQUESTIONABLY GOOD YOU FUCK.
No.502027
>>502025This is even more retarded than Gleiwitz
No.502030
>>502029Oh no! Voldemort Putler, regular violence wasn't good enough for you? Now you need to upgrade to
extreme violence? Just goes to show that you can't trust slytherins.
No.502031
5
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MINUTES
No.502032
>>502028So waging war inwards. Classic fascism.
No.502038
>>502037so the story is from what I can piece together
>Ukrainian group in LPR attempts to cross the LoC, gets under fire>to escape they cross over into Russia and get under fire there>two BMPs cross the border to evac the group>both get destroyed by Russian military, 5 dead Ukrainians and 2 captured No.502040
peace to folks
No.502041
>>501995The Ukraine Invasion Did Not Take Place
No.502043
>>502042summation so far
>probable recognition of the LNR and DPR>West has refused to consider a security arrangement >Ukraine refuses to abide by Minsk agreements No.502044
>>501932I want more Adventures of Stepan and Andriy!
No.502047
>>501877Synchronicity, the cosmos is shitposting irl
No.502048
>>502045Lol this one is awful, I don't know why they do this
No.502049
seems like intervention is about to get announced under humanitarian grounds a la Yugoslavia, Shoigu is talking about how 2/3rd of the population in the DPR/LNR no longer have access to water
No.502050
>>502048it's for domestic Russian consumption, it's not for us. most normies anywhere don't pay attention to the news.
No.502052
Do we all seriously have to put up with more larping for literal months at this point?
No.502053
Recognition of DPR and LNR is going to happen
No.502054
>BREAKING: DPR HEAD SAYS SITUATION GREATLY ESCALATED— BATTLE ONGOING NEAR RUSSIAN BORDER WITH UKRAINIAN MILITARY & DPR. CALLS FOR ALL MEN CAPABLE OF BEARING ARMS TO COME DEFEND THEIR FAMILIES AND FATHERLANDhttps://nitter.net/ASBMilitary/status/1495692731234111492#m
>The US Embassy in Moscow issued a warning to Americans about possible terrorist attacks in Russia.https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary/status/1495487005962248200#m>>502050Yeah but are Russians convinced by that lol
No.502056
>>502054>Yeah but are Russians convinced by that lolThe ones who support United Russia probably will be.
Honestly if this shitshow merely comes down to Ukrainians and separatists killing each other en masse in Donbass it's just over. Putin is a cockgobbling faggot who literally played with the lives of all Donbass residents.
Now it seems like the Russians were never planning on a big deployment of troops, they're going to use a bunch of hastily drawn up conscripts from Donbass who nobody will care about when they get killed aside from their families, and the poor bastards' families are now being sent into Russia proper where who the fuck knows what will happen to them. Probably a little bit of human trafficking will happen.
Fuck these kinds of conflicts, no leftist should be proclaiming support for any side.
No.502057
>LNR and DPR to be recognized
>Russian troops will move in along the LoC as a peacekeeping force
calling it, no actual "invasion" unless the Ukrainians fire on Russian troops
No.502058
>>502057This would be an happening even if a small one.
Also I wouldn't exclude Ukrainians chimping out.
No.502059
>>502058if they don't fire on Russian troops, then Right Sector and Azov will probably overthrow the current government with support from security services
No.502060
>>502055Biden finally gets to play the "Retired general brought back to reign in peace time wusses"(because his entire past has been memoryholed up to 2016) and he can retire as the American Hero who saved the US from Fwascism, restored the bipartisan trust and stood up to Putin.
I sure hope they don't intend to keep behaving like a rowdy nuclear drunktard until 2024.
No.502063
>>502059And that would only be jet fuel on everything.
I'm getting hopeful.
50% probability of a happening.
No.502065
>>Interior Minister Kolokoltsev: we are talking about recognizing the independence of Donbass within the borders established before the occupation by Ukraine
guess I was wrong
rip autonomous oblast of ukraine
No.502066
>>501987Furthermore /siberia/
need thoses posts for a matter of utmost importance
No.502068
POST 0 IF YOU THINK PUTIN WILL CUCK OUT
POST 1 IF YOU THINK PUTIN WILL BECOME JOSIMIR STATIN AND ACTUALLY NOT CUCK OUT
No.502069
>>5020680.5, he will let DPR and LNR men die
No.502071
>>5020680 because nothing good ever happens.
No.502072
>>502067Finally, a decision on sizzle or fizzle from our great premier.
No.502073
>>502070ok
POST 0 IF YOU THINK PUTIN WILL CUCK OUTPOST 1 IF YOU THINK PUTIN WILL BECOME JOSIMIR STATIN AND ACTUALLY NOT CUCK OUTPOST 2 IF YOU THINK UKRAINE WILL ATTACK FIRST OUT OF SERVING THE US No.502074
>>502069as opposed to killing many more in a war?
No.502075
>>502073rollan because i can't decide
No.502076
>>502070I think both sides will accuse the other of attacking first.
No.502078
>>502076that has basically already happened
No.502079
>>502067This is huge geopolitically, but is also a fizzle strategy.
No.502080
>>5020680and then some crap about respecting Ukrainian territorial sovereignty
No.502081
>>5020681 because I want some epic Putler posts
No.502082
UKRAINE'S FOREIGN MINISTER KULEBA SAYS REQUESTS UN SECURITY COUNCIL TO IMMEDIATELY HOLD CONSULTATIONS ON UKRAINE
https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1495786779353694211?cxt=HHwWhoDSsdOJjcIpAAAA
<They're already seethingTaking this as a good sign
No.502085
>>502082Consultation:
>Did you guys do the Minsk 2 thing we talked about? No? K.>>502083inhales No.502086
>>502067>BROS>THIS IS ITThere already is fog of war, you can't assume anything anymore. Russia might be baiting Ukrainian nazi mercenaries into a trap, recent days have seen a lot of population movement on the front line with civilians evacuating and that could have obfuscated a Russian deployment of uniform-off special forces posing as local liberation fighters. Azov nazis might be walking into a spetznas nest and getting a really bloody nose.
No.502087
>>502084Wtf was the artist doing here
No.502089
>>502059Azov/right sector are not nearly powerful enough for that, despite whatever english propaganda videos you might have seen on youtube from them. If anything this will happen in amerikkka, you just had a attempted coup by those types on January 6
No.502090
>>502089Yeah it's like ISIS. Rightoid militias are good for being the most fanatical soldiers, but not good for governance. The second they have administrative aspirations is when the Western weapons gravy train stops running.
No.502091
>>502088Stop making me question my sexuality on the HABBENING-thread!
No.502092
>>502084Vladolf Putler then went on to attack an Antarctic research station.
No.502093
>>502083>>502088>horny postingin the happening thread ?
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>>502087>Wtf was the artist doing herefailing at propaganda ?
it suggests that Hitler and Stalin are still alive and have surrounded Putin like they were representing 2 countries encircling a third, makes no sense.
No.502094
>>502090Yes exactly
But also anybody in thread actually thinking rightoid happening is possible in ukraina should check Svoboda results from 2019 elections
No.502095
HOLY SHIT, VLADOLF PUTLER JUST RIPPED HIS SHIRT OFF AND IT'S TALKING ABOUT MEMES TO A CYBORG
No.502096
>>502094I think after Zelensky turned out to also be a bootlicker, people arent even that much against Russia bringing back ye olde days.
No.502097
hello you have reached the based department, please leave a message after the tone
>So I used to be a Ukrainophile Rusyn, and initially I shamefully supported the Maidan in 2014…https://nitter.net/NarKomNats96/status/1495606227837067267#m No.502100
>>502088That's it I support NATO now, I cannot in good conscience keep rooting for Vladolf Putler if he conscripts and deploys this cutie to the frontlines.
No.502101
>>502033This is a clear provocation, clear and present danger. Putin has no nuts his oligarch Yeltsinite handlers want to keep receiving the gas munnies.
Russia needs an immediate communist revolution and every one of those snakes should be shot in public.
No.502102
>>502100FLA (Femboy Liberation Army)
No.502103
>>502101>This is a clear provocation, clear and present danger.No it's a retarded false flag. Quit it with the LARP.
No.502104
>>502101inb4 FSB silovik coup dressed up as KPRF
No.502105
>>502100>>502102Femboy communism is an ancient ukrainian tradition.
>>502101All according to plan, we are coming to spread the gay in your country moskal
No.502106
>>502103I think you took a wrong turn at Reddit friend.
>l-look it's marked as evil russia borbaganda, they even used the scare quotes on saboteurs! downboated! No.502107
>>502067>7:35 pm Moscow time>still not announcedLow energy Vlad
No.502109
Russia stock market down 10% today
https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/stock-market
>The MOEX Russia Index (Russian: Индекс МосБиржи), formerly MICEX Index, is the main ruble-denominated benchmark of the Russian stock market.[1] The index was established on 22 September 1997,[2] and has the same composition as the dollar-denominated RTS Index.[3]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOEX_Russia_IndexUSA market only down .6%
No.502111
>>502104KPRF is controlled oppo anyway. I'll be on board if they actually shoot the billionaires and mafia bosses.
No.502112
>>502109Unsurprising. Look at Turkish lira after Erdogay tried invading Syria 2019
No.502113
>>502106You don't have to pretend like the false flag is real because you think this is a sports game. Russia is purposefully using the American tactic of "there is genocide therefore we must invade" which is pretty funny and anybody who thinks it's real is a fucking retard.
No.502114
>>502113Ukrainian troops infiltrating Russian territory isn't genocide, it's just straight up an act of war.
No.502115
>>502113I am more on your side than not but I think wed all do better would we admit that we dont have the info to proof whats true and not and can just make assumptions that are more or less likely
No.502116
>>502113I hope they capture the next group, parade the vehicles through downtown Rostov, and make them sing the Ukrainian national anthem on live TV.
No.502117
bros I have to do shit so I'm gonna be offline for like five hours, don't start WWIII without me
No.502118
>>502117sorry bro but it's already
HAPPENING No.502121
>>502117Five hours? Obviously you will miss the start as it's in just five minutes.
No.502122
>>502113I mean this isn't a false flag, unless they found some dead homeless guy nobody cares about and blew him up
>>502046 No.502123
>>502114let's Occam's razor this
>russia will invade ukraine because it can, for economic reasons (the coal situation) just like any other capitalist country (USA and vietnam, Iran and iraq, turkey and syria, saudi and yemen)OR
>russia 'doesn't want to go to war'>russia will only go to war if provoked>russia will only be invading ukraine to get rid of nazis and accomplish [something good] (just like the US invades vietnam for "democracy", just like iran occupies iraq to keep it "safe" from westerners, just like turkey invades/occupies syria to make it "safe" for refugees lol)>russia claims ukraine, a country with a lot less power weapons and money, has already provoked it<implying ukraine would even have a motive to start a war, what with a GDP per capita that is half of belarusWhat seems more simple?
No.502124
>>502123>let's Occam's razor thisLet's not. Don't think I've ever seen a good post anywhere on the internet with this phrase.
No.502126
PUTLER JUST LAUNCHED A NUKE ITS OVER
No.502127
>>502126one? quadrillions of them!
No.502128
>>502124nobody on this board is immune to propaganda. russia ain't even socialist or even left-leaning anymore and leftypol still toeing the line
No.502129
>>502123>russia will invade ukraine because it can, for economic reasons (the coal situation)You are dumb. Russia's deal in Ukraine is that gas flows through it, and USA's as well - USA wants to supply gas to Europe, but it can't compete with Russia economically in this regard. That's the whole thing. Russia doesn't fucking want Ukraine, it's a dead weight. Russia wants ukrainian migrants, maybe, just like Europe wants, but not ukrainian territory.
No.502130
>>501981no they didn't. it clearly says right in your posted image that this is propaganda
No.502131
>>502128read the last chapter of the manifest. Pls.
No.502132
>>502130Russia imprisoned one ukr attacker. Imagine your and USA and Ukraine's faces when they show footage of that POW saying on camera who he is and what he was doing, lol
No.502133
>>502132>look at this forced testimony haha leftypol btfo!!do putlerites really
No.502134
>>502123>let's Occam's razor this>>Sadam Hussein is building Weapons of mass destruction, just like any other emerging power (they already used gas on their kurdish population)>OR>>Sadam Hussein "doesnt want to have WMDs">>All the experts from several countries proving it are all colluding with the US>>US will invade a country in the other side of the world for shits and giggles>what seems more simple?sometimes the simple answer isnt the correct one
No.502136
>>502129You are correct that USA can't compete with Russia with natural gas in Europe but:
>implying EU hasn't been trying to fix this with ukrainian coal>implying the reason this crisis has ramped up isn't the fact that the russians will do anything to keep selling EU gas>implying russia wants ukrainian migrants when they have plenty of central asian ones already (who they are very racist against by the way)There's a lot more to this than you think
No.502137
>>502128Occam's razor is propaganda along with its buddy whataboutism
No.502138
>>502135wrong thread dude
No.502139
>>502133>forced testimonyLol'd, you don't get it? The very FACT that Russia has an ukr POW caught in Russia is going to murder US and Ukraine's diplomatic options. Who cares what that guy has to say? Russia just has to prove that it is, in fact, ukrainian soldier or whatever. There's video of them getting killed and caught already.
No.502141
>>502139>video of them getting killed and caught already.source?
No.502142
>>502137>everything is proooopaganda i love totally communist russia Go try being gay in moskalistan, westoid
Try growing your hair a little long and paint your nails
Russian leftists like putin will love you
No.502144
Putin is about to make a national address
No.502145
this is it. the moment of truth.
Cytube?
No.502146
>>502114the only way they would do that is if they were 100% certain that russia is totally bluffing
No.502147
>>502143Distrusting western media then uncritically accepting Russian state media isn't progress
No.502148
>>502143you don't need talking points bruh, go watch the footage the Russians have released themselves. it's so poorly done. the only thing i can say about it is that maybe Putin has gone soft because they didn't need to kill hundreds of sleeping civilians like in 1999. now they can get some crisis actors to run around next to IFVs.
No.502149
>>502142Why would I need to go to Moskalistan to be gay when we have you being gay all over the thread already
No.502150
>>502143>implying I don't already do thatfuck Azov, YOU funded them you fucking westoid
No.502152
OHHHHHH I'M GONNA SUPPOOOOOOOORT OR OPPOOOOOSE UHHHHWHHWHHAHAHHUHH
No.502153
>>502144>>502145Come on guys we need to find a link
No.502154
HE JUST ANNOUNCED SOVIET UNION 2
No.502156
>>502149I just want you to see how tolerant and pro-communist and anti-homophobia Putin is
You would love russia
No.502160
>>502154Putin was merely pretending to be a neolib retard the last ten years, ultimate redemption arc
No.502161
>>502158It doesn't. Be critical of both. Both lie
No.502162
>>502158Literally nobody is saying that
No.502163
>>502156>BUT WHAT ABOUT COCKS IN MY ANOOS!?!?!Average liberal response
No.502164
The 90's proved that Russia's struggle against the west is an anti-colonial struggle
No.502166
>>502148>the russians actually bombed their own people>muh crisis actors!>Every atrocity committed to my countries enemies is actually fake!!go back to /pol/ shizo
No.502167
>>502164Maoist national bourg oligarchs when
No.502169
>hey this false flag looks pretty sloppily done
<NO UR A LIB WTF YOU LOVE NATO HOLY SHIT
why are some people like this
No.502170
>>502166Are you being forreal? Russia claims during Syria war was the same. That attacks were staged.
Why is it beyond reproach and reasonable when they state it?
No.502171
>>502166cope, i've been shit talking the burger psyop campaign this entire time. and now the Russian psyop comes and nobody is allowed to question it? some of you are hopeless
No.502173
Come on Putin, announce Soviet Union 2.0
No.502174
>>502169everyone on the whole internet assumes a lot about the meaning behind every statement and turns them into binaries that imply other things not explicitly said. sometimes good, sometimes pure autism
No.502175
>>502161sadly not too many people here are doing that
>>502162>Literally nobody is saying that>"How could you even QUESTION that this is a false flag????">"You must be a RUSSIAN BOT who believes Putin is a communist!!!" No.502177
There are explosions all over Donbass, I really don't think that these are all false flags. Ukraine is admitting some soldiers died this morning too
No.502179
>>762581
wtf there are racist people in russia? i renounce materialism
No.502180
>>502174>sometimes good, sometimes pure autismtrue. internet discussion is 30% good, 70% bad.
No.502182
>>762581
There are racist russians?
This changes everything.
No.502183
>>762581>>502179If you type in Cyrillic, you're cancelled. #SlavsAreOverParty
No.502184
>>762581
translation?
No.502185
>>762581
I don't speak russian but I can tell the word "racist" when written in the cyrillic alphabet. That looks pretty racist, which is par for the course for the dominant right wing tendency in power in Russia.
Russia still won't invade Ukraine though, and the illegal and imperialist collapse of the Soviet Union is still not justified, and was in fact responsible for right wing thought becoming dominant in Russia.
No.502186
>>502181well that's the thing. the false flags are so poorly executed by both sides its easy to dismiss the events with near certainty, both with this "IFV attack" and the kindergarten thing.
No.502187
>>502177They are definitely not, AFAIK they have never completely stopped since 2014. The claims that are dubious are the ones about deliberate attacks on Russian territory. I can believe that an errant shell made its way to Russia, but hard to believe that a Ukrop would do it on purpose
No.502188
>>502186Explain this guy blown to pieces
>>502046 No.502189
>>762581
Are you surprised such memes from a country that literally funds nazi parties across Europe?
No.502190
>>502189the US? A shame indeed. Google GLADIO
No.502191
>>502188That twitter account has no connection to anyone, no identity, no website and constantly post very favorable material to Russia
How about you find a supporting source for this claim besides them uploading a random video and making a title?
No.502192
>>502191Disprove it with snopes then :^)
No.502193
>>502189>>502185>>762581>Racist memes in Cyrillic<I have now made up my opinion about all Russian peoplewhy are people like this?
No.502194
>>502192There is nothing to disprove it's on you to prove what the video is. There is millions of videos online of people dying.
Go provide a supporting source with what the tweet states. Should be easy enough
No.502195
>>502191If had a connection to explicitly pro-Russian media you would just deny it immediately. also the body parts look pretty good imo
No.502197
>>502195Nope i won't do that. Provide a Russian media source about it. That's perfectly fine.
No.502198
>>762609
Calm down Ukrop
No.502199
>>502188I'm separating official Russian false flags from the failed DPR and LNR ones, and right now official Russian organizations are promoting the IFV attack.
No.502200
>>502158Glowies prefer to use facts, just like normal people, to push their narrative. Russia has facts on her side, so her glowies can be trusted on these issues.
You can see this clearly from the month long retardation US and Ukraine pulled the whole world through with their "Russia's gonna invade!!!1" There's no credibility to "CIA and Azov" talking points while Russia's talking points were backed by the reality we experienced. So, logically speaking, you have to trust Russia over US and Ukraine.
Why do I have to explain this, even? It's kindergarten-level stuff
No.502201
>>502199 (me)
BUT ANYWAYS it seems like Putin is going to give an announcement in 10 minutes
No.502202
>>762618
stop derailing the thread
reported
No.502203
>>502197I don't have one but I'm not sure how that would change anything. It's possible that somebody blew up a corpse just for the video but that seems like a ton of effort for something that didn't even make it to mass media
No.502206
>>502193dude, yeah Russians are racist. Against Central Asians. Blacks are a curiosity, black ppl in Russia were almost always like chemics Professors from Nigeria
Pls argue further in the Nazi thread
No.502207
>>502194>There is millions of videos online of people dying. 1) The sign he is holding is dated today
2) The man can be seen in front of a window with an ornamental ironwork grille and a smashed window
3) Another shot clearly shows gore and the smashed window
4) The gore some metres away is clearly in the same location due to the same grilles being used on the gate
No.502209
>>502205to be fair, i've been on other places and leftypol is rather tame. the things i've read on reddit and 4/pol/ have made me cringe out of my skin these past few days.
No.502210
>>762609
И что? Никогда не буду встречать русских, ихний предположительный расизм меня не затронет.
No.502211
>>762634
but you putting all 200 million Russians under one hat isnt. Stop derailing, Fed
No.502212
>>502205PICK A SIDE, ARMCHAIR. IT'S PUTLER VS. THE NATO NAZIS AND YOU MUST CHOOSE COMMUNISM
No.502213
>>502201Putin is a pussy, he doesn’t have the balls to recognize his DPR/LPR puppets as that would be tantamount to a shredding of the Minsk II agreement and the beginning of open conflict with Ukraine that would culminate in Putin and his fellow Oligarchs loosing their entire illicit wealth due to Sanctions, LOL.
No.502214
>>502206it reminds me of when I lived in Mari El, and the Mari people hated the Chuvash but were fine with Tatars and I could never understand lol
No.502215
Putin, two minutes from giving his announcement, still hasn't made up his mind. He's flipping a coin right now backstage to decide whether or not he'll recognize the breakaway republics
No.502216
>>502206>German Flag>"Genossen! Ze Russian slavic Untermensch is inherently inferior and RACIST, it is in his genes!!"KEK
No.502217
>>502213what good would annexing parts of Ukraine do for Russia? what they want is a buffer zone between them and NATO, not larger Russia. (Crimea is a different case because it's a military base on the sea)
No.502218
>>502214I dont hate one people but the Anglos
No.502219
>>502213That's also my vibe to be honest.
No.502220
Someone get a stream up. Putin should be speaking any moment soon
No.502221
>>762618
Eh, my partner’s russian. I’m an indian, fwiw, so it likely is different
No.502222
>>502216I think this gdr flag’s a russophone
No.502223
>>502213I don't know man, the whole Russian narrative has been how Ukraine doesn't follow the agreement anyway. Seems like exact justification for this
No.502224
>>502221>folga wolga iwooga wompcome on man
No.502226
OMG VLADIMIR PUTIN JUST REPOSTED A STONETOSS COMIC ONTO 4CHAN
No.502227
>>762654
Будучи индусом с русской девушкой, не верится, что каждый русский—такой
No.502229
>>502216Dude I was in Moscow literally last week. I am still homesick for that city. Theres no nation that I respect more greatly than the Soviet Union. Theres racism against some Central for Asian people for economic reasons, which is sad but as a German Ill surely not throw the first stone. Lets just end it as that ok?
No.502230
>>502221>thinking you know everything about russia and ukraine because your gf is russianwestoid
No.502231
>>502229ruhig Brauner, war ja nur ein Scherz
No.502232
>>762654
>russkie liberals and conservatards both associate themselves with hwites in US
>hence the hate for blacks from both liberals and conservatards
<meanwhile, ordinary russians sympathize with blacks, because everyone from their cribs watched Soviet movies and read Soviet books mentioning US racism
Funny how that works
No.502233
>>502231ok Genosse :). Kp ist ne harte Zeit hab mir das Scherzen abgewöhnt. Lass uns hier auf Donbas konzentrieren aber ich wünsch nen schönen Abend
No.502234
>>502232>implying russian government fights for "ordinary russians"Mistake
No.502235
>>502224I have no idea what this means, but even then, it’s not like the russians imperialized africa or participated much in the slave trade. Very few black people are there and would have to associate with all of these people. And it still don’t change the fact that NATO’s trying to bully one of the countries who might present a real threat to their imperial hegemony.
No.502237
>>502235relax man, I wasn't disagreeing with your point, I was making fun of your use of the obscure acronym "fwiw"
No.502238
>>502217As I’ve said many times, Crimea is majority ethnic Russian and thus belongs in Russia, while Donbass is majority ethnic Ukrainian and thus belongs in Ukraine. Thus, I support Ukraine (and it’s Western Allies) recognizing Crimea as part of Russia in exchange for both sides implementing the Minsk II agreements. The reason I’m calling Putin a Pussy for not recognizing DPR/LPR is because I know that’s what Dengist/Duginist Happooner Schizos think will happen and I think it will be funny when their disappointed, 🤣.
No.502240
March soon lol.
No.502241
>>502234Your fucking argument hinges on MEMES, for fuck's sake. Are you implying that it's RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT that made that MEME? State-sponsored anti-black/pro-hwite meme, seriously?
No.502242
>>502237>obscure acronym "fwiw"this is an incredibly common acronym
No.502243
HOLY SHIT
No.502246
>>502244thats it for a few days. See you then
No.502247
>>502230I know the USSR kept close relations with India that lasted into modern day Russia after the collapse. I know that Brezhnev sent an atomic sub into the bay of Bengal in 1971 to chase out the US who were trying to intervene in the liberation war. I know plenty
No.502248
>>762671
Как-то не боюсь
No.502250
>>502234>>502241Oh, and by the way, as a person who watched all the official Russian TV channels at the time, offcial, "neutral", stance was "blacks do be disproportionately criminals, but policemen are insane to do that to criminals. We don't do that, here's a video of our policeman shooting attackers in the legs and doing multiple shots in the air while said attackers tried to stab them with a knife and walking towards them menacingly!" It clearly favored anti-US-police messaging, and called riots a mismanagement on epic scale, caused by police brutality, not because blacks are bad or something. Russia's official position on the issue was sane (for a capitalist country)
No.502251
>>502247youre a good dude. The farmers victory was pretty stunning
No.502253
>>502229Moscow isn’t the capital of the USSR anymore, it’s a Capitalist shithole full of Hookers now, LOL.
No.502254
>>502244king lear on suicide watch
No.502256
>>502244>>502244Ukrop glowposters posters btfo
No.502257
>>502244Is this basically annexation? I don't understand why they would do it. Now the rest of Ukraine will eventually join NATO. Unless they are betting on Ukraine remaining too corrupt (and corrupt
ed) to ever be allowed in by France/Germany. Probably a safe bet, lol
No.502258
>>502257War.
Ukraine will respond with all out war.
No.502260
>>502237I dunno if it’s that obscure. But I guess I mean to say there afw plenty of racist Indians, Chinese and other groups who have never interacted with an African in their life and are racist to each other as well. That doesn’t mean some cynical ploy to make me turn my back on them is gonna stop me from knowing who are actually causing net harm to black people everywhere across the world
No.502261
>>502257NATO doesn't admit countries with border issues and such - because NATO doesn't want to go to war over it's new members bullshit.
No.502263
>>502244This is FAKE NEWS until confirmed by official sources.
No.502264
>>502256Great maybe they will stop shelling and killing civilians now
No.502265
>>502251It was, but I’m still sad about how the CPI in West Bengal has basically gone dormant because of a local anticommunist liberal party called Tiramool displacing them in 2011, with the BJP reactionary neolibs sucking up former CPI members. The party’s internal decay after Jyoti Basu stepped down in the early 200s likely contributed to the situation, but still. As for the Naxals, I refuse to condemn them, but I dunno how much progress they’re making
No.502266
>>502261I thought this was ending the border dispute lol. I guess Ukraine has to recognize them as independent too, and they still haven't done that with Crimea. So I guess still no NATO. Putler wins again
>>502258I still doubt it, but maybe
No.502267
>>762717
Russia supported both Podemos in Spain and Syriza in Greece
Maybe, just maybe, they're supporting these parties because it weakens the EU, not because of political allegiance.
No.502268
>>502238>>502223Ukraine hasn't let DPR carry out elections for 5 years and blocks international observers from landing in the country at the direction of the USA because they know they would lose in a referendum and they can claim the elections were rigged because no international observers were there.
While only 38% of people are ethnic Russian, more than 70% speak Russian and want federated independence, while remaining part of Ukraine because both they, and Russia consider, them to be part of Ukraine.
NATO couped Ukraine and is cockblocking them with propaganda and intimidation. Approximately 51% of Ukrainians overall do not want to join NATO but Right Sector terrorizes people at voting locations with USA weapons and kills trade unionists and shelling civilians. Now Ukraine has a list of left leaning and union people that they are looking to massacre, and the USA instead is reporting that Russia has a list too and they are going to arrest Nazi war criminals, which is very bad and muh both sides some how.
No.502269
Is there any chance this will fuck up the rest of europe?
No.502270
>>502269Yes, a 1 in 1 chance
No.502271
>>502269Granny Freida is going to freeze because of Scholz and the Greens
No.502272
>>502265youre still in a much better situation than the imperialist core and history has shown that - not a third worldist but both China and Russia were not number 1 on Marx' revolution propability. Keep on the good work. I think the Naxalites are misguided but not enemies
No.502273
>>502269no, Ukraine will just throw some troops into Russian missiles and scream "war crime!"
No.502274
>>50226950% of German manufacturing runs on Russian Gas
Either the German economy breaks or NATO.
No.502275
>>502268>Right sector terrorizes people at voting locations like the KKK did to black people>american leftists actually believe thisThis thread is the most schizophrenic westoid shit I've ever read, don't know to laugh or cry
>right sector kills trade unionistsI'd like to see some evidence i am generally curious because they are not that strong
No.502276
>>502269europe will feel what its like 1% of the embargos against Cuba and Korea, and no, they will learn nothing, liberals are immune to learning.
No.502277
>>>502274>>502274Germany is the workhouse of Europe.
Germany collapses, everyone collapses.
/CRISIS/ chads win again.
No.502282
>Ukraine has declared martial law across all territories
No.502284
Just noting that after all the obvious psyops about Russian false flags, it seems the actual legitimate basis by which Russian troops would be activated is Responsibility to Protect to rescue ethnic Russians in regions that would invite Russia in.
No.502285
>>502250По Центральному Телевидению (НТВ) пару месяцев назад лизали зад Риттенхаусу, но в целом я согласен с твоим описанием. Проскакивает по России 24 периодически "БЕЛОЕ НАСЕЛЕНИЕ В СТРАХЕ ПЕРЕД ЧЕРНЫМ РАСИЗМОМ, ИХ СЧИТАЮТ АПРИОРИ РАСИСТАМИ ЗА ЦВЕТ КОЖИ", цитируя ФоксНьюз, и всё еще Трампу подсасывют. Но основной посыл российского ТВ это скорее не УУУУУУХХХХХХ ЭТИ НЕГРЫ НЕГОДЯИ, а "не раскачивать лодку, революции это большие потрясения, нам это не нужно, мы научены" - протесты в Париже освещаются аналогичным образом. Потому Путин одновременно говорит что "мы всегда с симпатией относились к борьбе афроамеракинцев за свои права", но и "мол в США теперь пытаются делать как большевики". Либерализм и антисоветчина, конечно, но не такого разлива еще. Реальный расизм, как калька американского, в 2020 исходил от от фашни с Двача, пабликов типа Мужского Государства, и либероидной публики: комментаторы с Эхи тогда чуть ли не Stormfront цитировали, Собчачка плакала о разграблении Luis Vuitton lol
No.502288
>>502250NTA, but Konstantin Syomin during the Polish Border Crisis last year did talk about how the Russian Media (rightfully) attacked the EU’s response to them, but also antagonizes and demonizes its own migrant and even just minority population.
Syomin’s a good journalist and easily my favorite Russian Left Media figure.
No.502289
>>502278This is an incident from 8 years ago, can you find anything more recent that right sector has been involved in to prove that this is anything more than the result of inflamed maiden tensions?
Check the 2019 elections results for Svoboda. Right sector is not that powerful anymore. I doubt they have done anything since then
Also the sources you gave failed to mention rayevsky, pro-russian NAZI leader who was organizing for russian military intervention and was kicked out of odessa in March before the rioting
So let's not assume here that the novorossiyans are anti-nazi and pro-worker
No.502291
>>502289>So let's not assume here that the novorossiyans are anti-nazi and pro-workeryeah, good, ok
bridge off mate
No.502292
>>502285don't expect a reply soon, he needs his gf to translate it for him
No.502294
>>502275>>right sector kills trade unionists>I'd like to see some evidenceReally uyghur
No.502295
US is currently discussing evacuating the Ukrainian government and forming a "Ukrainian government in exile" based out of Brussels
No.502297
>>502295Instant Russian coup in Kekraine
No.502298
>>502289<oh is that proofs?<well you haven't provided more proofs<i don't like the source of your proofs<um actually sweatygo back to v*ushes d*scord
No.502299
>>502292>>502285>>502250Я русский и свободно читаю и пишу по-русски. Хуй знает про какого анона с гёрлфрендой ты говоришь
No.502301
>>502295…so they're basically abandoning Ukraine and leave a powerless and meaningless gov in exile?
No.502302
>>502295Whew, what a winning strategy
No.502303
>>502295>Invasion hasn't even started.>Already making goverments in exile.Lmao
No.502306
>>502304youre dying for the cause, brother
No.502308
>>502299>>502285 - мой единственный пост. Кажись он имеет ввиду индийского анона с русской подружкой, но тот анон говорил в другом треде что он умеет по-русски (и по-польски еще тож).
No.502310
>>502307based communist putlerism, obviously
No.502311
>>502304You're probably fine. Or maybe you're not. One thing I've observed from reading histories and watching history unfold is that during a crisis people will mill about, acting as if nothing is happening, right until the bombs start landing on their heads.
No.502312
>>502292Да ладно тебе. На русских медиа говорили “не поступай по-большевистски”. И что? Таковую хуйню всегда несут власти. Никого не поражает.
No.502313
>>502303That would be the most hilarious thing.
No.502314
>>502289>Check the 2019 elections results for Svoboda. Right sector is not that powerful anymore.neither of them were super popular except for western parts of Ukraine used to belong to Poland (and Austria-Hungary respectively)
but that's not really the point. most of the pro-maidan political movements were pushing nationalist bullcrap and supporting or at least tolerating rehabilitation of nazi collaborators
No.502316
There's a limit to US fuckery.
If the US fucks up the EU, then it fucks its strongest ally and hence weakens the US. The US does stupid shit all the time, so it might happen that they are well on their way to doing this.
It has already set a strong precedent in German politics stating that US interests go above German interests. The German government has always played obedient dog with US since the war, but it was also a mutually beneficial relationship. Now, it is unclear if it will continue being a beneficial relationship.
Alliances are already shifting in the ME. The belt road initiative will be America's next target. The US played itself.
No.502317
dude putler uses windows XP lol
No.502318
>>502316There is 0. ZERO change that the EU blames on this on the US. They will blame it on China.
No.502321
I'm gonna miss cheap russian gas
No.502322
>>502320It's not going to be russian civilians dying in this one, chief
No.502323
Nothing has happened. Stop squealing.
No.502324
>>502316you seen to forgets something, the US for the liberal establishment is the same thing as Israel for the neocons, they can't do nothing wrong does not matter if they Nuke them, because the US already did everything else against them, spying their leaders and tampering with their elections.
No.502326
>>502325What are you trying to say? I don't even know what I'm arguing anymore. I just don't think russia should invade
No.502327
>>502292Человече, хоть не говорю по-родному, все таки свободно владею русским. Язык не сложен, мне похож немножечко на мой родной бенгальский. Если что, лексикон славянских языков чаще похож на индоарийские языки, чем на лексикон других индоевропейских языков
No.502328
Putin is off the rails lol
No.502329
Putin is on TV saying that Lenin created Ukraine and that if Ukraine wants to decommunize so much then he will happily assist lmao
No.502330
>>502323Eh, there's gunna be war now. You can't declare regions are independent without triggering war. Would happen in every case, and is likely how the war with China will occur, by other countries amassing military around China then declaring Taiwan to be independent.
No.502331
Putin is owning teh libs epic style
No.502332
>>502329powerful shitposting abilities
No.502333
>>502329How anti imperialist of him
No.502334
>>502329even 90 years after his death lenin makes the booj tremble in fear
No.502335
>>502323This. Putin knows that any Invasion means him and his Oligarchs go broke from Sanctions, LOL.
No.502336
>>502329damn putin goin for the thrussy of the Ukranians.
No.502337
>>502329And people here cheer him on. His ideology is that of any barking white guardist.
No.502338
>>502329The manlet is shitting on USSR.
No.502340
Fuck putin. What a shithead.
No.502341
SIZZLEGANG ALWAYS WINS
No.502342
Has Putin been playing 4d chess this whole time to restore the USSR
No.502344
>>502337No no leninhat, Putin is the most communist president there is which is why we need to support everything he does
No.502345
>>762813
<Get blown the fuck out
>Change the subject
No.502346
>>502329lmao, and what did you people expect he said this shit many times before
No.502347
>>502340Daddy anti imperialist let you down again?
No.502348
>>502330The western imperialists unilaterally declared west Germany "independent" in 1948 without a war.
Also there's Transnistria which isnt a war zone.
No.502349
>>502329Yup I've noticed this shift in Russian attitudes myself just from talking to Russian friends online… definitely a move towards a more negative view of Lenin due to a revitalized belief in the importance of Russian nationalism.
No.502350
>>502344capitalism is a small price to pay to have lenin's statues returned
No.502351
>>502326>I just don't think russia should invadecry harder about it
No.502352
>>502318>>502324What I'm saying is, once the US fucks EU porky profit, it is hurting itself and the EU will look to distance itself because money is king.
No.502353
>>502337>>502338The subtext is also that the logical conclusion to the Ukraine undoing the USSR then the Ukraine should go too.
No.502354
>>502349Lenin has always been absolutely hated by Russian bourgeois nationalists.
No.502355
>>502351i'm not crying, i'm confused…
No.502356
>>502347Who's anti-imperialist? Putin? L to the mao. I live in russia, btw
No.502357
Are you all illiterate?
No.502358
>>502348Perhaps you are right and nothing will happen. I think odds of war have dramatically increased though following this declaration.
No.502359
>>502356>I live in russia, btwSorry for your loss
No.502361
>>502354That is definitely true, I'm just observing that I've seen people who I've known for 10 years (from the internet) or so change their minds on this issue.
No.502362
>>502339They always did strike me as white Indians.
But the similarities in national character are more the product of similar histories of impoverishment, foreign rule if not out right being imperial subjects and the internecine violence in their often multiethnic communities. Your pogroms are over, in India they still happen. My grandparents were expelled from Bangladesh after the partition in 1947 and my parents lived through a religious riot, where hindus and muslims were lighting their neighbor’s houses on fire.
No.502363
>>502329Timeline in which Us funds Russian Leninists after this rant
No.502364
>>502362>your pogroms are overCaucasus?
No.502365
based putin, fuck lenin and khruschev for creating "ukraine"
No.502366
<my side is better than yours
The proletarian position must always be revolutionary communism independent of the bourgeoisie.
No.502367
>>502366based leninhat post
No.502369
u crane?
No.502371
>>502329Listening to the midget Anti-Communist Bourgeois Imperialist Fascist faggot Putin bitch about “Muh evil Jude-Bolshevik” Lenin creating the Ukrainian SSR and breaking up “Muh holy Russian Empire”, makes me want to hold my nose and support the Ukrainian side if I am wrong and Putin really Invades the entire country. I supported the annexation of Crimea, but the wholesale destruction of Ukrainian sovereignty under Anti-Communist pretexts is a violation of the Leninist principle of Self-Determination of Oppressed Nations that I as a proud Marxist-Leninist-Maoist cannot stand for.
No.502372
>>502366But it's relatively better to support Russia in this conflict if a proletarian revolution won't happen
No.502373
>>502371Ukraine will stand, its just Donbass.
No.502374
Putin recognizing that lenin created ukraine basically forces ukrainians into a corner of choosing between either leninism or cucking to russia. Good news for us.
No.502375
>>502374It just gives way to extreme anti-communism and russophobia
No.502377
>>502366true, but if this fucks the west hegemon i will support russia.
No.502378
>>502364Touché. Произошла в Чечне настоящая мясорубка.
No.502379
>>502374No cos it's bullshit, Lenin didn't create Ukraine.
Russian and Ukrainian bourgeois nationalists both hate Lenin cos he's a communist, that's it.
No.502380
>>502371>Listening to the midget Anti-Communist Bourgeois Imperialist Fascist faggot Putin bitch about “Muh evil Jude-Bolshevik” it's not the first time he said this kind of shit, dude
No.502381
>>502377If Putin just takes Donbass its more about the sanctions impact then the fact in itself.
No.502382
>>502371>if I am wrong and Putin really Invades the entire countryWhat if he invades and then invites international peacekeepers to hold an election and maintains its independence? In all these announcements he says DPR and LPR are Ukrainian. It seems that this idea that he would recognize them is to push Kiev to recognize their autonomy, not to annex them.
No.502383
>>502378Russia aint always that great. try talking to some chechens or georgians my indian friend
No.502385
Невозможно слушать эту хуйню, он говорит и говорит о рандомных вещах.
No.502386
>>502379Regardless, the true oppressed nation here is novorossiya. They want independence but not to be part of russia. Donbass must be independent.
No.502387
>boomer rambling about history shit nobody cares about
VLADOLF PUTLER MOMENT
No.502388
>>502385parkinson's? what do you think
No.502390
>>502386>independence but not to be part of russiaOh sure that's what they'll get just like Chechnya
No.502391
>>502379No he didn't create the nation of Ukraine but Ukraine became an internationally recognized republic thanks to the soviets. The Whites were chauvinists who wanted it to be part of Russia and the Ukranian nationalists sold out to foreign armies, so in the end it was the communists who made Ukraine.
No.502392
>>502388He's obviously reading from a prompter. Just a tactic where he talks for 100 hours and then acts like it all made sense and supports what he wants to do.
No.502394
>putin talking about how western alligned comprador elites destroyed soviet industrial legacy in ukraine
based?
No.502396
if the US can recognise Kosovo, Russia can recognise Luhansk and Donetsk.
No.502399
>>502392great. so another 10 years of shithead. Wish his mental health really was going down the shitter
No.502400
Lmao what's this Putler meme now? Is it ironic or what? I haven't lurked in a couple of weeks
No.502401
RUNDOWN ?
No.502402
>>502400It is both ironic and unironic as leftypol slowly but finally realizes Putin is not a leftist
No.502403
>>502380And yet we still get cryptofash on here supporting him.
No.502404
>>502401He's giving a bourgeois history lesson on Ukraine and honestly will probably declare total war at the end
No.502405
>>502401Still talks about how ukraine bad and accuses it of things russia itself is guilty of, like corruption. Claims ukraine is not a real country and was artificially created by lenin in 1920s
No.502406
>>502404Imagine if he cartoonishly pulled a big red button from the side and launched the nukes right there and then
No.502407
>>502390The communist position is that russia should invade ukraine and partition the country between belarus, transdniester and novorossiya. This is the best outcome for the country of ukraine.
No.502409
Oh my god, he's using nuclear weapons as a justification to potentially invade ukraine. Bush much?
No.502411
>If Ukraine wants de-communisation, we will show them what real de-communization looks like
HOLY SHIT THIS IS INSANE
No.502412
>>502407And Turkey should be divided into armenia and kurdistan. Best outcome
No.502413
>>502406Honestly, it would sell me on the Putin-train
No.502416
>>502411Yeah Putin admitted to being a full communist this is crazy
No.502417
>>502415Advance the dialectic, my dudes
No.502418
Is it just me or he's kinda rambling? Reminds me of Zizek
No.502419
he's talking about the crimean war now or some shit?
No.502420
He just declared war
No.502422
>>502421vladolf putler is actually a series of cyborgs.
No.502423
>>502411>omg Putin is anti-communistdid you guys seriously think that he was secretly Stalin 2.0 who will bring back the USSR?
No.502424
>>502421>mukhinNo sorry, i only trust alexei Dugin conspiracy theories
No.502426
>>502421Because it's a schizo theory. Wow, people look different as they get older and maybe fatter and get shit like botox (which putin clearly has)? Insane
No.502427
>>502391No more than communists made the Russian Federation.
No.502428
>>502423This, these mf's got rich off the fall of the USSR, why the fuck would they be pro-communist?
No.502429
Thanks Putin for clarifying ONCE AGAIN that literally NO ONE in this conflict is even remotely "our guy".
No.502430
He's declaring war
DO SOMETHING BIDEN
No.502431
>>502423Yes, they did. Since 2014, whenever I tried to start a thread on Crimea it becomes very pro-putin very fast
No.502432
>>502425This guy just got a facelift and now looks kinda fucked up, it was more evident a couple years ago when he was fatter.
The 'peasanty' putin is probably a different guy tho
No.502433
>>502429We must critically support Ukraine
No.502434
He's a Hitler
BIDEN YOU OLD FUCK DO SOMETHING
No.502436
>>502433critical support for the azov battalion
No.502437
>>502423no. why would anyone think yeltsin's literal protegee is a communist?
No.502438
>>502425Saddam hussein had body doubles I dont see why not
No.502439
HE'S DOING A HITLERINO ON HECKLIN UKRAINERINO WTF
No.502440
he's just ranting?
No.502441
schizoposting putin
>schizoposting putin
schizoposting putin
>schizoposting putin
schizoposting putin
>schizoposting putin
schizoposting putin
>schizoposting putin
schizoposting putin
>schizoposting putin
No.502442
>decommunization
HAHAHAHAHA
No.502443
Zizek - Putin debate of the century when
No.502444
>>502440That's how his every speech goes. Even for mundane shit like some peasant asking for the material help from the government.
No.502445
what if he just rants about ukraine for 2 hours and at the very end announces he's withdrawing troops
No.502447
What is he even suggesting now? I'm not getting it
No.502449
DO SOMETHING BIDEN
No.502450
HE JUST SAID THE US IS THE ENEMY
No.502452
I love putin rants because of how absolutely rambling and insane they are. It’s like watching some AI in a robot fail
No.502453
>>502445That's what's gonna happen.
No.502454
>>502451Biden’s gonna respond with his own rant. Battle of the Sundowners
No.502455
post truth world in action
state leader rambling about the most random shit while journalists "translate" it and NPCs take it at face value
language loses all meaning in this hellscape
No.502456
5 MORE MINUTES AND HE'S GONNA DO IT
No.502457
DO SOMETHING BIDEN
No.502459
>>502457TURN ON CNN BIDEN JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE IN A JETPACK
No.502461
is puttler on drugs?
No.502462
This will cause a nuclear war
No.502463
>>502461He's been hypnotized by the US. He's the Michiganian Candidate
No.502464
Putin is such a shitposter honestly the US wishes a european country would speak this candidly and surly about their official enemies. It's got great double sided propaganda power galvanizing supporters and opponents.
No.502465
>this speech
Ukraine is going to be fully dismembered, this ain't just Donbass now
No.502466
Why now everybody is against putin? Have all gone glow on me?
No.502468
Biden just announced Hitler 2. Putler is seething!
No.502469
>>502414Putin is saying this to undermine the right-wing in Ukraine. It's taking away their national pride origin story. They made such a big deal about undoing Soviet legacy, like removing Lenin statues. If this de-communizing meme catches on and deligitimizes Ukrainian nationalism, the ukrazis might have to rehabilitate Lenin as a founding father. It's a pretty low chance, but it would get very strange.
No.502470
>demanding nato revert its state to 1997
GO ON PUTTY BOY
YOU TELL EM
No.502472
>>502466Nobody was ever FOR Putin, we all just hate Ukraine.
And now that he's gone full mask-off, even the retards can't try to support him.
No.502473
Ultimatum moment
No.502474
Where's the stream? retard here
No.502478
>>502472Not for putin but how sticking it up the ass to Nato and Eu is a bad thing?
No.502479
HE DID IT
No.502480
IT'S HAPPENING
No.502481
HE RECOGNIZED DONBASS
No.502482
whats heppning i just came back
No.502483
ITS OVER……..
No.502484
>RT throwing shade at putin for rambling
No.502485
is war
going to happen
No.502487
This all seem so based to me.
No.502488
AAAAAAAAAAA
FIZZLEBROS, WHY?
No.502490
HAHA KNEW IT
No.502493
Cool speech of great historical importance. I like how it was almost entirely made of listing an accumulation of small grievances and complaints about historical narratives ultimate that somehow justify an effective declaration of donbass independence. The angel of history stands astride as another 18 wheeler slams into the wreckage of history.
No.502494
Honestly he's right about donbass and luhansk
No.502495
>>502493Any link ? Couldnt see it
No.502496
So is he gonna invade Ukraine?
No.502498
>>502493Beautifully worded.
No.502499
>>502497Well, they signed friendship and cooperation agreements. If Ukraine attacks, Russia may decide to intervene
No.502501
Ok, srsly tho how long until USSR 2.0 now?
No.502502
Based now i want war
No.502506
>>502498>not noticing how fucked up the sentences arethank you.
No.502508
>>502466He’s a fash and anti-communist, attacked the Bolsheviks even in this speech
No.502510
>>502501Socialism is dead
No.502512
>>502466Putin killed the USSR you shitbrained moron. Fuck putin, but if he gives a black eye to NATO thats the only good thing he can ever do.
No.502513
New Thread
>>763082
>>763082
>>763082
No.502514
>>502509>>502503>>502508No shit he's a fascist and a war is literally gonna destroy europe. That's what should any serious leftist who's not a lenincel should aim at. When everything is destroyed then we rebuild.
No.502515
>>502501Most people want it back so why won’t they form it?
No.502517
Putin negotiated a diplomatic deal with the leaders of the Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics to officially recognize them as independent states. That was a really important event. I wonder what new geopolitical situations will come from this.
Personally, I think more multi-polarity and less US/NATO hegemony is a good thing so I see this as a net positive.
No.502518
>>502517Immediate annexation, probably.
No.502519
>>502466>Why now everybody is against putin? Have all gone glow on me?We would side with Putin taking the Donbass region, because that means the low intensity war would end and the people living there could go back to living like people, without sporadic mortar attacks or ethnic discrimination. And all the people that supported the euromaidan color revolution have no basis for complaining because that started this proxy war, and they would be taking sides with ethno nationalists.
But If Putin did a larger attack for completely dismantling Ukraine it would mean a conflict that kills at least 500k people, and that's not worth it.
Of course Putin hasn't actually done anything, other than have a big troop exercise near the boarder of the Ukraine, and accept the Crimean region into the Russian Federation. Which wasn't his doing, the US puppet regime in Kiev alienated these people into joining Russia, it's US foreign policy blowback.
No.502520
>>502515Fuckin right?
>>502516ULTRA BASED No.502522
>>502371The good news is that a war between Russia and Ukraine could galvanize the communist movement in a big way in both countries, especially if escalates to an east west conflict.
Gotta take the red-blackpill: Imperialist war is inevitable under capitalism, but so to is inevitable the communist sentiment that it will result in.
Our task to prep as many people as possible for this inevitability through our organizing and agitprop.
No.502523
>>502516why the hell is this image so squished
No.502524
>>502515>why don't bourgeois governments bring back the USSRBreh why do you think
No.502527
>>502526
dubs for war
No.502528
>>502526
trips for war
No.502532
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