No.550712
>>550708>Ukraine goodNot my position. I think a Russian victory would be preferable, even though I think the invasion should not have happened.
No.550714
>>550708Russia Bad, Ukraine bad, Azov bad because Black Sea infrastructure is much more developed
No.550716
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No.550717
>>550603And read why Apple took their manufacturing to China
They said nmthey had a serious problem with a piece of the phone and needed to make an adjustment. In the same day the factory managing Apple products took it down the road to another factory the size of a small city and re-tooled the widget they needed and were mass producing it by end of day
US cant do anything close to that
No.550718
>>550703>Certainly it's rididiculous to call all the parties that denounced the war "CIA" lmao.Those parties denounce a country boxed into a corner as an aggressor. Fuck you, seriously. I bet you also fucked up enough to think that DPRK's war against USA's puppet regime wasn't justified.
No.550719
>>550235>last picthese people are fucking psychotic
No.550720
>>550702Yes I agree. I said similar in 2015 too. Imo the socialist position is
1. Peace settlement and autonomy for Donbas and Galicia, one neutral and federalized Ukraine
2. Unity of Ukrainians and Russian proles against the imperialism that exploits their historical divisions. No more small nation enmity and great nation chauvinism
3. Korenization of one socialist Ukraine, the east becomes Ukrainian and the west repudiates nationalism
No.550721
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No.550722
>>550708im slightly with russian only for ending the donbass war, it's been going for 7 years now and I think they deserve some peace in their time.
No.550723
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Even though this war is getting boring
No.550724
Sabby x shay when?
No.550725
>>550703>Certainly it's rididiculous to call all the parties that denounced the war "CIA" lmao.It is but it is accurate to call Zelensky, Right Sector, Azov, Svoboda, Ukrainian World Coordinating Council, Ukrainian Supreme Liberation Council, Ukrainian Congress Committee of America etc CIA, because they are.
No.550726
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No.550727
>>550718>Those parties denounce a country boxed into a corner as an aggressor.No they don't. In fact the only time the statement mentions aggression is in relation to NATO.
>I bet you also fucked up enough to think that DPRK's war against USA's puppet regime wasn't justified.You'd be wrong then.
No.550728
>>550725I never said they weren't.
No.550729
>>550722>im slightly with russian only for ending the donbass war, it's been going for 7 years now and I think they deserve some peace in their time.Overall the violence escalated insanely, conflict was nearly frozen since Minsk, was it worth it?
No.550730
>>550717>US cant do anything close to thatYES, THEY, CAN.
It's China that can't build a ton of stuff that the US can. The only reason why the US builds things in China is lax environmental regulation and labor protections. That's it. And the US has far and away greater construction capacity than China. It would not take long at all to build "city sized factories" here in the US.
No.550731
>>550730>It would not take long at all to build "city sized factories" here in the USyou are both clueless and delusional
No.550732
>>550730>labor protectionsAren't unions in charge of labor protections?
No.550733
>>550664>Every product in the first world is from a Anglo corpDelusional, seek help or a treatment with 9g of lead.
No.550734
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No.550735
>>550731No, it's you that thinks that building factories is beyond the largest economy on earth.
>>550732Regardless, labor costs more in the 1st world than it does in China.
No.550738
>>550737also check those filename digits
No.550739
>>550729it was not worth it and this war should never happen and yet here we are. I just hope this conflict end sooner rather than none
No.550741
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No.550742
>>550733It's a generalization dumb dumb. And it's true, I can't even think of a major Chinese brand. But the average person could think of several Japanese and European brands, that because those two have real manufacturing bases and aren't just wards to another power.
No.550743
>>550700>How do you feel that your brothers in the global south think that you're an idiot for supporting the peopleOh, the Ukrainians did that?
The Ukrainians were more scared of Russia than they were NATO. That doesn't make NATO good, but
given what Russia is doing right now it at least makes Ukraine's position understandable. They aren't in a position to hold NATO morally accountable when Russia is an eminent threat. From where I'm sitting Russia and NATO are both bad, but if I was a Ukrainian I would probably feel differently.
No.550744
>>550570>>550566 based nazbol alternative history
No.550746
>>550743>The Ukrainians were more scared of Russia than they were NATO. maybe the gov, after all they were prompt up to accept Nato.
No.550747
>>550742Fuck off you shill, nobody is fooled. Posted from a xiaomi phone while drinking a beer from my haier fridge sitting in front of a lenovo laptop.
No.550748
>>550736 i thought Pistoletov was a pornstar
No.550750
>>550708Fuck Russia, Fuck Ukraine, Fuck Azov, Fuck NATO
No.550751
>>550570 oh no shaytan can time travel
No.550752
>>550603>If China could build world competitive commodities without the US they would be doing it already.Huawei Phones are technologically competitive with Samsung and Apple phones. Massive quantities of low quality crap is manufactured in China but that's not all they do, they also do very high end stuff as well.
>>550717>And read why Apple took their manufacturing to China>They said nmthey had a serious problem with a piece of the phone and needed to make an adjustment. In the same day the factory managing Apple products took it down the road to another factory the size of a small city and re-tooled the widget they needed and were mass producing it by end of day >US cant do anything close to thatThe US could achieve such industrial integration as well, not right away but over some time that would be possible. I think this is more a problem of attitude than ability. The US is not willing to look at China as a place that can innovate or people you can learn from. There is a burned in opinion that Chinese people are bugmen whose only successes are derived from copying American greatness and that's that. It's the people that make knockoffs and nothing else.
No.550754
>>549874Blue: Countries supporting Ukraine
Yellow: not offiicially supporting either side but has condemned the invasion somewhat
Orange: supporting Russia
Russiabros, it seems most of the world is against you. Why is this?
No.550755
This is not a football match where you support one team or the other without nuance.
A certain action of Russia was not supported, that doesn't mean all of these countries support Ukraine.
No.550756
>>550754They probably could have done better if they paused in Donbass and run a propaganda campaign while goading Ukraine to force them to continue
No.550757
>>550754>Most of the world sides against RussiaIn this map the majority of the world population is in areas that are red yellow or grey, so even your own map contradicts your statement.
Your map is also wrong, because people in countries like Brazil and India side more with Russia.
Most people in the blue countries are being misinformed by a propaganda blitz, people don't support arming Ukrainian neonazis and they don't supports attempts of aggressive military encirclement. No body is expressing consent for the things that the US is actually doing, and they are expressing opposition to a fictional version of Russia that only exists in this insane propaganda parallel universe.
The question you have to ask your self is how far can you go with separating the narrative from material reality, until this shit backfires against you.
The US is already talking about sanctioning India for not towing the line hard enough. If you look at the rate, the US is kicking countries out of the global financial system that they control, how long will it take until it's not a global system anymore because the US is the only one left that's in it.
No.550758
>>550680And kekraine will be free and independent if they win this war, are they?
No.550759
>>550757Most of the world is in yellow and yellow isnt exactly pro-russian here
No.550760
>>550758>And kekraine will be free and independent if they win this war, are they?Russia is most likely going to win. They will probably absorb the Russian speaking regions into the Russian Federation and make a neutral Ukraine out of the rest of the Country. That new country will be more independent and free than before, but they will still be a small country stuck in between big blocks, and they will get locked into geopolitical non-alignment politics.
>>550759kek, here comes the back paddling
your first post : who against Russia
your second post : who for Russia
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