No.549875
First for someone to make a flag for this WHOLESOME 100 WE DID IT REDDIT brigade.
No.549876
>>549874Are there any funny videos/stories from volunteers yet?
No.549878
>>549876all the volunteers are funny by default
No.549880
>>549878Yah but I wanna hear their stories like 'nobody told me there's no tendies in the Azov battalion WTF?'
No.549886
>>549885but they're white!1111
No.549887
you gotta see the fun in the situation I guess
No.549888
1) that number is probably a lie
2) if it wasn’t, that is going to be a fucking nightmare for the actual Ukrainian military, imagine having to discipline all those untrained burgers with a jumped up sense of self importance and heroism. Or the actually trained ones who won’t listen to you because they are in le US marines and don’t take orders from no demi ruski
3) interesting new development. Instead of paying soldiers, they send willing dumbass volunteers, which don’t technically count as Nato troops. Shrewd CIA. Very shrewd. Plus all the propoganda to be generated
No.549892
>>549877he looks tired.
will get a long nap, soon
No.549893
>>816230
DO you really need to ask
No.549894
I'm a brainlet that doesnt understand strategy and tactics. How do I learn?
No.549895
>>549894Join the academy.
No.549896
Has the Ukrainian president made any more crazy demands lately or has he calmed down already?
No.549898
>>816249
aircraft carriers are a meme
No.549899
>>816249
An integrated smokescreen, good
No.549900
>>549895Where do I sign up, chief?
No.549901
>>816249
Do you really need an aircraft carrier if you don't need overseas colonies or global power projection though?
That is a pretty funny piece of shit though.
No.549902
>>549891How do all these ukranians, and chechens and russians understand each other? Do they all speak russian?
No.549904
How soon until we see the first dead Redditor?
No.549907
>>549902Most of them do yes. Russian is basically lingua franca in the ex-USSR
No.549908
Why are there so many slavic nazis? It's like being an indigenous conquestador larper.
No.549909
>>549904Hopefully soon, Russia says they will be arrested, I hope they get killed.
No.549910
>>549902Yes. Kazakhs and Belarusians speak Russian too, Russian was the language of the USSR after all. A lot of Polish/Hungarian etc people know Russian too.
No.549911
>>549902Did the soviets take berlin?
No.549912
>>549904I genuinely want Russia to use chemical weapons on the reddit legion
No.549914
>>549913Zelesky sisters……
No.549915
>>549908There aren't many, they are just very loud
No.549916
>>816249
Russia has zircon missiles
Who gives a fuck about AC's
AC's are floating coffins in an actual war when you're facing a power more superior than the jihadis in flips flops and AK47s
AC's are good for intimidating 3rd rate powers and corruption and accounting fraud in the Military industrial complex but that's it
No.549917
>>549903Of course it's the 40k tards. These nazi cunts ruined the hobby for everyone.
No.549918
>>549916>>549901>>549898>>549899Please do not reply to problematic posts
No.549920
>>549913> On 24 December 2014, Amnesty International reported that the unit was blocking humanitarian aid from Ukraine reaching the population of the separatist-controlled areas. Over half the population in these areas depend on food aid. According to Amnesty International, the Aidar, Donbas and Dnipro-1 battalions say they are blocking the aid because they "believe food and clothing are ending up in the wrong hands and may be sold instead of being given as humanitarian aid".What a bunch of faggots
No.549921
>>549908You're suffering from selective information. There's nazis everywhere because capitalism is in crisis. Germany also has a serious problem with neonazis in their military and police, but nobody wants to do anything about it - and you know how touchy they are about their history.
t. slav
No.549922
>>549919R*dditors aren't humans
No.549923
>>549913Give them to the Chechens. They’ll know what to do
No.549924
Also daily reminder that Reddit is a glow OP
No.549925
>>549908> It's like being an indigenous conquestador larper.There are many here in south america, they call themselves 'hispanistas'
No.549926
>>549921>Germany also has a serious problem with neonazis in their military and police, but nobody wants to do anything about itwhy not?
No.549929
>>549927So he has been working in construction since he was 11?
No.549930
>>549928She isn't technically wrong, but
No.549932
>>549926Some of them were tried in court, but it didn't lead anywhere. My guess is they'd rather hide it under the rug, political correctness going wrong. But I'm not in Germany, so I can't say.
No.549933
>>549928Why do they interview hillary clinton?
No.549936
>>549928Dried up old fart couldn’t win a presidential election and now she’s admitting to the US funding the mujahideen for internet clout?
No.549938
>>549926On the one hand it's work, on the other you are then missing "useful" enforcers.
Germany is not comparable to Ukraine however, where Azov and similar trash wear their Nazi insignia openly and what have you.
No.549939
>>549928If they announced they were doing a Taliban 2: Nazi Edition in Ukraine, I'd bet they'd win their elections
No.549941
>>549933girlboss will win the empire and the libs will be #stillwithher as she starts WW3.
No.549942
Does anyone one have the art of the Z's. Like the little medical car and the others?
No.549943
>>549935Did I lie? But the truth is, it didn't end well for Americans too.
No.549944
>>549937american official bad geography
please laugh (or cry, whichever applies)
No.549945
>16,000 Redditors marching to their deaths
What a waste of life. I can't imagine dying for NATO goals.
No.549946
>Ukrainian sources claiming that Russia refuses to sign a ceasefire without a framework agreement recognizing Crimea and the Donbass republics, for now only humanitarian corridors for civilians are being discussed. Negotiations are difficult
>We're losing but we're negotiating as if we were winning
This is crazy, Zelensky might be a legit retard or that's what their western handlers are forcing him to do.
No.549947
The propaganda is wearing off or people still believe russia is losing? It feels like reality is slowly settling in
No.549948
>>549945hey now
don't interrupt your enemy making a mistake
No.549950
>>549945Many will spend a lot of time in a Russian prison. lol
No.549951
>>549927This guy could've been a working class socialist. What went wrong?
No.549952
>>549945Rojava I can understand but wanting to risk losing your life/limbs to expand NATO?
No.549953
>>549938>Germany is not comparable to Ukraine however, where Azov and similar trash wear their Nazi insignia openly and what have you.No eastern european country is comparable to Ukraine either. IMO Ukraine has suffered the most from the collapse of socialism and subsequent transition to capitalist periphery. It is by far the biggest shithole in Europe. They have a serious problem with human trafficking as well. Seems like a good breeding ground for nazism.
No.549955
>>549945why you not supporting making ukraine a trash dispenser just like communist coutries did with the US, at least they die this time.
No.549956
>>549947the narrative shifted yesterday to war crimes
No.549957
>>549945This, not even /pol/ would volunteer to die for globohomo.
Cuc/k/s on the other hand….
No.549958
>>549952Isn't Rojava basically a NATO project?
No.549959
>>549908A) Collapse of USSR led to an explosion in the number of lumpens, and lumpens often tend towards fascism (think of skinhead gangs in the West).
B) Slav Nazis think that Generalplan Ost is a Jewish lie and the Nazis just wanted to free them from communism.
No.549960
>>549958shhh inb4 10k post derailment
No.549961
>>549958at least there is something to redeem there, ukraine straight up glows since 2014.
No.549964
Give it to me straight bros, will Russia come out on top here or will NATO win? Ukraine is getting BTFO but sanctions seem to be hurting russian economy a lot more
No.549966
>>549964Russia will probably win, NATO members are now hysterically militaristic and more countries want to join NATO
No.549967
>>549964in the big picture? no one knows yet
No.549968
>>549963Why are their jokes so lame? They are like the opposite of funny
No.549969
>>549919Do Redditors really think war is all about shooting and fighting on the frontlines? Jesus christ they really are out of touch. They really get most of their knowledge from movies and games don't they?
No.549970
>>549966What about the sanctions tho? Are they just a bluff? Will europe call it off after Russia wins the war?
No.549971
>>549964Russia will win, it will take some days but they will win at the end.
No.549972
>>549964Since Russia's fate otherwise was to be picked at like a carcass then I would say Russia has won. NATO have thrown away their hegemony over their autistic fixation on bullying Russia.
No.549973
>>549959There's not that many such people anyway, as the anon's question make it seem. They're a minority, but westerners like too concentrate on this because it's "exotic" or something, then they extrapolate this to slavic "culture". You guys should analyze our countries economically first of all, within the wider capitalist system.
No.549974
>>549965> the best outcome awaiting them after being captured is criminal persecutionUncanny delivery
No.549975
>>549964russia will undoubtedly win the strategic war on the ground, but it remains to be seen what will be the consequences of the economic war
No.549976
>>549964Sanctions will affect everyone.
Russia will be the slight winner, as they've prepared themselves for this, but everyone will be hit somewhat equally.
No.549977
How many redditors are actually there?
No.549978
>>549970>Will europe call it off after Russia wins the war?Maybe. Europe needs gas and current sanctions are basically a crime against humanity, it will impoverish Russians greatly
No.549979
>>549964One week in and Ukrainians are losing half the country
Propaganda copes don't win wars
No.549980
>>549977Everyone posts "I'm in route" shit but apparently no one has ever seen combat yet.
Might all be a very dumb ruse, who knows?
No.549981
>>549977how many people are in the Azov battalion ?
No.549982
>>549958Only if NATO is at war with itself.
No.549983
>>549968It gives me "loser white guy" vibes. They act what they think a genuinely clever, witty and fun guy would act, even though anyone who talks like that isn't charming at all most of time. It's like when an insecure dude acts overtly aggressive, rude and belligerent because they think that's what confident people act like and what will give them respect.
No.549984
>>549968I just tell myself that their retarded habits are the fault of GPT3 feedback loops and they're not real people and that humans are not cringe.
No.549985
>>549982Common thing for military alliances, people here should know it.
No.549986
>>549964the sanctions were all coming over time anyway. they've been ratcheting them up year after year, with one pretext or another. unless russia bent the knee and made itself a servant of the empire, all of it was coming eventually anyway.
No.549988
>>549978They didn't care about humanity when they sanctioned third world countries, why should they care now? They'll only call it off if it hurts their own ass
No.549990
>>549988They let in Ukrainian refugees, maybe they will consider blonde blue-eyed Russians humans…
No.549991
what's the current map in urkaine
No.549992
I remember reading an account of some anarchist author who went to Catalonia to fight Franco and all she did was get in the way, disobey orders, and clumsily sabotage every single operation she was involved in. I imagine this is exactly what these redditors would be like in warfare, trying to be a hero and grandstanding their prepackaged sense of morality when really they’re entirely detrimental.
No.549993
>>549979Almost 1/4 to be precise.
If they keep going on like this they will control all of Ukraine in a month, that is if the entire country doesn't collapse after Kiev falls.
No.549994
>>549974Looking forward to see westoid fascists/nazis reduced to gore
No.549995
>>549964Let me say it this way: in general Russia will lose, but it will lose less than staying passive. NATO will gain in short-term.
No.549997
>>549995>general Russia will loseNo
No.549998
>>549989will they surrender? i mean after the bulk of the ukrainian army finishes getting encircled the war is pretty much over, right?
No.550003
>>549999>YPG/UkraineI told you this countless times!
No.550004
>>549990no, they're finno-ugric mokshe tataro-mongols
No.550005
>>549995>NATO will gain in short-term.I predict NATO will gain a big boost in soft power popularity and unity, for a year or so. Then when the material conditions kick in, and when everyone has forgotten about the Ukrainian invasion, NATO will be back to where it was before Russia invaded: weakened and crumbling. Who knows, there might be a black swan or two that will accelerate this. Syria finally ending the Civil War, further attacks on Palestinians that radicalize more people abroad, China making deals with its Asian neighbors and making better alliances and deals. Anything could happen.
No.550006
>>549992Anglo individualism makes them a liability. They grow up on hollywood and games and think wars are decided on an individual level by heroes
Even if you are ex spec ops you are not immune to being ambushed or blown apart by artillery or a drone
Suburban westoids that have never even been in a fight before are going to fare even worse
No.550007
>>549902Chechens speak Russian. And Russian and Ukrainian…
I know some Russians and I can understand Ukrainian… they are tooooo similar. I am a Spanish native speaker and I can't find a way to compare with another language. For example, Spanish and Portuguese aren't even this close.
It's like if you have a Mexican living in a ghetto ho uses only ghetto slang, and you put an Argentinian living in a Guetto that uses only ghetto slang and both tried to communicate. There are words they don't use, but definitively they will understand one to each another.
No.550008
>>549984Their failure to individuate results in them plugging their brains into the internet to be given a template personality
No.550010
>>549919The Ukrops will be putting these larpers in the ditch digging and supply hauling battalions, kek
No.550012
>>549998No the U.S. and Euros want an insurgency and a majority of the country want to be in NATO so you will probably see the U.S. fermenting a Civil War there.
No.550015
>>549989Don't worry. Steiner will launch his counter attack soon
No.550016
>>550005Yeah, that's what I had in mind. The after effects for Europe are still to be seen, and people will become more pissed as the hype dies down and the material costs come knocking on the door.
No.550018
dusk in kiev
No.550020
>>549983>It gives me "loser white guy" vibes. They act what they think a genuinely clever, witty and fun guy would act, even though anyone who talks like that isn't charming at all most of time. Kek, well put.
No.550021
> Russian oil giant Lukoil calls for halt to Ukraine war
Porkies are afraid
No.550022
>>550019Yeah, by throwing her in a reeducation camp
No.550023
>>550016If it's one thing I've learned in the past few years, material conditions will always eventually overpower propaganda. Say what you will of China, but the seething against it for the past few years could power a nuclear reactor, and no matter the propaganda pieces– it is continuing to rise, undeniably, materially and economically.
No.550024
>>550021They will get nationalized soon.
No.550025
>>550015Mein Fuhrer….Steiner….Steiner….
No.550026
>>550014It’s Russia, the term “negr” there is a neutral one for black africans, while “black” or “black-ass” is a slur for central asians and caucasians
No.550027
>>549994Unfortunately these guys are probably going to jump back over the border as Russia will just be marching on the west by the time they get there. Although we'll probably see some killed as traitors which is even funnier, but regrettably leaves us with more redditors at the end than an encirclement.
No.550028
#Moldova applies for #EU membership - President Maia Sandu.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499417067732221957MOLDOBROS??? No.550029
>>550016Energy prices in the UK are set to rise to £3000 annually because of current sanctions. There’s only so long the rest of the Western world can hold out before it has to relax it’s grip on Russia
No.550031
>>550007What the hell are you talking about? Ukrainian sounds more like a russian guy speaking polish than anything.
No.550032
>>550023The only problem here is the absence of the left.
No.550033
>>550028They were aimed at this long time ago, but Moldova was considered too shitty to join the EU, also they have their own Russian nationalist-controlled region
No.550034
>>550004False, they are light-skinned, light-haired indians
No.550036
WHAT IS THIS RETARD ON ABOUT?
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499418527069093890?s=21⚡️⚡️Zelensky to Putin: Get off our land
"If you don't want to leave now - sit down with me at the negotiating table, I'm free. But not by 30 meters, like with Macron, Scholz - I'm a neighbor! I don't bite. I'm a normal man, sit down with me, talk to me, what are you afraid of?"
No.550037
>>550005I think NATO is going to be worst off even before. The Sanctions haven't been felt yet and will likely hurt the west more than Russia. Theres going to be an oil crisis and gas prices are going to embolden the right wing. I doubt U.S an Friends can convince everyone to accept soaring prices on all fronts over a country that you're right will be forgotten about in a year.
No.550042
>>550013All 4x GS games are shit. All of them.
Read a book instead
>Join military, die in dumb bourgeois warNo
No.550043
>>550037>The Sanctions haven't been felt yet and will likely hurt the west more than RussiaWhat makes you think that? Is it because Russia is already used to sanctions, and will probably just trade with China anyways?
I've heard from other Anons that the rising gas prices will just be a nothingburger and Westerners will just grind through it. I don't know how accurate that is.
No.550044
>>550021They arent afraid uygha putin is literally a porky himself
No.550045
>>550041surprisingly based
No.550046
>>549992Kek are you able to find the account for us to laugh at?
No.550047
>>550028Moldova's gonna see some shit in the coming years, they have more than one rebellious province.
No.550048
>>549902One factor other people are forgetting is that these people were part of a single union and society. Same thing in Yugoslavia: we can still understand each other's languages because of all that collective cultural legacy. Even younger generations still listen to music and watch films from the rest of ex-Yu. Would be surprised if it's not similar in ex-SU.
No.550049
>>550036That table lives rent free in NATOid heads.
No.550050
>>550030still being shelled, russia and dpr are slowly pushing azov into azov sea
No.550051
>>550041>we're forced to sanction them because ???I hope he's not european,or he will have cognitive dissonance when reading his electricity bill.
No.550052
>>550035Most of the time the AFU just surrenders, and while people don’t like NATO in Russia, they ain’t that willing to die fighting it. Even the Russian military strategy only recently became more aggressive
No.550053
>>550041This has nothing to do with post ww1 germany whatsoever
No.550054
>>550042>Read a book insteadrecommend me some
No.550055
>>550013i wonder, which is the most realistic Strategy game, just to satisfy my autism of course.
No.550056
>>550036>But not by 30 meters>what are you afraid of?Assassination bioweapons?
No.550057
>>550054>recommend me someNo
No.550058
>>550031No, polish is different from ukrainian. The whole idea that ukrainian is a polish russian is wrong, there are loan words, but it's not how it works. Ukrainian sounds like a heavily accented russian, with "g" replached with "geh", "o" with "ee" and such. Given that russian and ukrainian both are european languages, all the loan words are very familiar even if meaning can be diametrically different.
No.550059
Also rip to RT for my fellow eurobros. Can’t even get it on YouTube anymore lmao.
No.550061
>>550031They have different words form some objects and verbs sometimes mean different things.
No.550064
If sanctions have not destroyed Iran, Venezuela or Cuba how are they supposed to destroy russia? Russia can basically freeze half europe by closing the gas ducts.
No.550065
>>550060>Whats the point of fighting over an airport Neither side can allow the other to control the airport. If Russia backed away and allowed Ukraine to repair the airport, they'd stand to lose alot of their advantage over Kiev
No.550066
Are Westerners so deluded that they don't see the hypocrisy with them banning anything Russia related on the Internet while at the same time complaining about China's oppressive Great Firewall?
Cognitive dissonance it seems.
No.550067
>>550060Gostomel is reconquered and contested in twitter only. Treat Ukrainian propaganda as what Goebbels did. Remember that one time he was reporting the conquest of Stalingrad multiple times? Or how he didn't report Konigsberg being lost? That's what we are dealing with here
No.550069
Chernihiv when?
>>550060seems like a geographically strategic position to hold
No.550070
>>550068think he means no regime change
No.550071
>>550066If anything it shows the Chinese were right to build their own internet infrastructure. The great firewall payed off.
No.550072
>>549929sometimes kids help out at their parents construction job
No.550074
>>550070If it fucks their economy NATO already won
No.550075
>>550049It's funny that they say he does it to fuck with people mentally and it is in fact fucking with everyone mentally.
No.550076
>>550069Apparently Russia gave khokhols a respite AGAIN as a goodwill. Khokhols immediately started their stalling antics at negotiations as a response. Fucking hell, keep on pummeling them
No.550077
>>550064Don’t forget North Korea lol. If a small country like that can build itself a couple nukes and have it’s government survive a modern famine then what makes them think a superpower like Russia will crumble in days lol.
No.550078
>>550055gary grigsby's war in the east 2 is p good
No.550081
>>550054Probably you should visit /AKM/ board on this chan
No.550082
>>550077Russia doesn't have communism.
North Korea does.
No.550083
>>550068Venezuela isn't large enough or well developed to withstand economic isolation, whereas Iran and Russia are
No.550084
>>550060Seems like its pretty clearly controlled by Russia but not secured enough for the Ukrops to not be able to shell it
No.550086
>>550065Airport runway repair is not as simple as a couple of shovels, I helped provide over watch for construction crews to build some for UAV's in remote locations. They require pretty decent engineering, even for small light unmanned aircraft. Still need asphalt trucks, still need steamrollers.
No.550087
>>550053Germany's economy was heavily oriented around the MIC, so massive restrictions on armaments production did indeed further shit up their economy.
No.550088
>>550055Graviteam Tactics is good on it's level of abstraction
No.550089
>>550060>(the one with the worlds largest plane that got blown up RIP lil dude)another piece of soviet legacy turned into scrap
No.550090
>>550086This isn't to say it would be instantaneous - clear the rubble and the airport is usable again - but if this war drags out for months, it's absolutely imperative for Russia to make sure that Kiev does not have access to inbound or outbound flight
No.550091
>>550080The whole objective is to weaken Russia, it doesnt matter if Putin leaves or not
No.550092
>>550064But you have to admit, those countries economically are struggling because of the sanctions. Unless someone has a paper or evidence to prove it isn't that bad, I think Russia will definitely see a decline in living standards and economy. It won't lead to regime change, scratch that– I don't know what it will lead to. Revolution?
No.550093
>>550091Wouldn't it be better for them to have urban liberals in power? They are fairly pro-Western
No.550094
>>550091if antiwestern governments survive until the Chinese pole of influence develops, then they can build back better lol
No.550096
>>550091> it doesnt matter if Putin leaves or notregime change would certainly matter
No.550097
>>550089It's okay, there was only one completed but the Ukrainians have always had another incomplete one they've been working on whenever they found money for it. Hopefully in some gesture of goodwill after the war the Russians help them finish it.
No.550098
>>550093Sure, but at this point that's nearly impossible
>>550094Westerners aren't well known for thinking of the future
No.550100
>>550073>>550057I will look around. One important thing is to understand that wars are not won on an individual level. Understand economics, logistics and strategy
I should make a reading list for this No.550101
>>550099Seriously I am feeling bad for them at this point. Victims of the West just like Russia, even if they were collaborators
No.550102
>>550099pls xplain what dat mean
No.550104
>>550102they're fucked and nobody will help them
No.550105
>>550090
>Bring out the construction battalion team, spend a few days under constant shelling and herassing and sniper fire repairing the runway, someone drops another bomb onto it and blows up the repaired runway and all the vehicles while it is in the process of being repaired. Oil, tar and hot asphalt melt everywhere. What an absolute shit show
No.550106
>>550103You will be called NATO shill and CIA agent like these KPRF dissenters
No.550109
>>550014MRS. HARRIS GET DOWN
No.550110
>>550108Russia had these for Americans in 2014, lol
No.550111
>>550108This is literally the same vein as "Muslims ain't allowed here for what you did in 9/11" haha liberals are really nuts.
No.550113
>>550108Why does le wholesome gay leddit liberalism turn into fascism so fast?
No.550114
>>550099stabbed-in-the-back myth it is
No.550115
>>550110>Doesn't provide proofCIA s
aboteurhill
No.550116
>>550043America might be able to weather it, our country is pretty cuck and we've been living under austerity and hyper inflated housing/medical for 2 decades now. Plus we have a lot of our own oil and natural gas. However it's a fantasy to think America can supply western Europe with enough oil and gas across the Atlantic ocean.
No.550117
>>550103damn this is a pretty great statement
No.550118
>>550113Libs are always one crisis away from fascism
Never forget who put Mussolini and Hitler in power
No.550119
Lmao is there a country more cucken than Ukraine? They accepted all the western EU shit just to be left behind and dabbed on when they got invaded kek
No.550121
>>550102Abandoned, left to their luck. Which is 0, given their are fighting against a much stronger enemy, not even using its 10% of their military personnel, nor even 10% of they military equipment.
No.550122
>>550110well, yes, but those were more in a humorous vein
like, say, some bus station kiosk in fucking chelyabinsk would put up a note about refusing service to obama
No.550124
>>550116Sanctions only work as an enforcement tool when there's no reciprocal pain. Russia and China are lynchpins of the global economy. Europe can't simply do without Russian oil and gas, nor can the world do without Russian food exports. Similarly the U.S. can't do without Chinese manufacturing. The neoliberal order undermines itself when it has to try and apply solutions for marginal third world economies to major 2nd world or "developing" economies. Turns out the globalized system can't easily cut out major market sectors.
No.550125
>>550106idc, not like these retards have any more influence than i do to influence events. least we can do is have a good consistent position instead of pretending like youre going to help epig putin destroy NATO with meme magic shitposts
predicting that were going to see some insane cope on here in the coming months as putin cracks down on communists & socialists for anti-war civil unrest, assuming theyre western glowies instead of people with enough of a brain to take advantage of domestic discontent to advance revolutionary politics
No.550127
>>550112Brave, powerful, inspiring. These are just several words which can be used to describe the collective action of redditors to build an ugly facsimile of the Ukrainian flag in minecraft and then pin it to their subreddit. Each one of them shall be given the Nobel Peace Prize and will be personally commended by President Biden. #StandWithUkraine
No.550130
Apparently Coach Red Pill (the dumbass boomer who was telling people about the shit going on in Kiev) is on the run after Azov showed up at his hotel lmao
No.550131
>>550059Even some anti-Russian libs are mad about it because of freedom of the press lmfao, some are now comparing Europe to North Korea.
No.550134
The liberal narrative is crumbling apart, no amount of downvotes can change reality
No.550135
>>550131Seems completely… liberal?
No.550136
>>550124Holy shit. I just had a lightbulb moment. If I'm right, this might be the first time the West is decisively sanctioning a major economic power, one of which most of them depend on. This isn't like Cuba, Venezuela, or the DPRK who's economies weren't very developed yet at the time of their sanction. This is an economic lynchpin as you say. We might witness the first hand effects of a sanction that negatively effects the sanctioner more than the sanctionee.
No.550138
>>550134Think 1984 but downvotes in place of the two minutes hate.
No.550139
Are Russians really going to amphibious assault Odessa? Could be kino
No.550141
>>550130Sauce?
>>550136I think a lot of this is operating at a higher ideological level too, where moral absolutism is making it impossible for people to have realistic perceptions about what's going on or how to respond to it. Like, Russia invades Ukraine; Nazis invade Ukraine > Therefore > Russia is Nazi. So if you think what's happening is a Nazi-like war of extermination rather than what it looks like, which is a great power playing power politics with other peoples' lives – then no sacrifice is too great when it comes to resisting the invader. They should burn the whole country to the ground if they have to – sacrifice every man, woman, and child – if it means stopping the Asiatic hordes from beating down the gates of Europa.
The unrealism and unseriousness of it all is astounding. The moral certainty has made any real moral calculus impossible.
No.550142
>>550138In one of Zizek's books, an essay from his, he described the collective, continuous hatred from the media towards Iraq during the Iraq war as an example of the United States "Two Minutes of Hate." We see it happen with Cuba, China, and many other countries. The United States is more 1984 than most people realize.
No.550143
>>550137Pure cope. All your major cities are being sieged
No.550144
>>550137Narrative has shifted already bro, the 'ukraine is winning' shit is over, now is putler is committing war crimes against pupperinos
No.550146
>>550140Lol I love these maps that paint out Transnistria for no reason.
No.550147
>>550145THE CONVOY JUST GOT TEN KILOMETERS LONGER
No.550148
That one shitpost about a lost nuke in ukraine is making me paranoid. Do they really have one stashed to do a false flag ?
No.550153
>>550141Saw a Ukrainian journalist encouraging Boris Johnson to institute a NATO no fly zone over Ukraine and her justification for it was “WW3 has already begun”. It seems people are showing zero self moderation or caution in their approach to this situation
No.550154
>>549926cause its an old old rot, and it can be useful in times.
No.550156
>>550119Serves them right for trusting liberalss.
No.550157
>>550149Laws don't exist for them, if he doesnt get killed by russians now, he'll live a comfy life doing speeches and shit in europe and the US for life. Prepare for Time's person of the year Zelensky , nobel price, etc
No.550158
>>550136Basically this is an economic war of one great power against others, an economic World War. The aggressor is the declining economic world hegemon, while other two try to work around its attacks.
No.550159
>>550124I agree, I do think American might be able to coast without commodities from Russia. Euros not so much. If say China takes Taiwan and the U.S sanctions them it's ogre for the U.S for sure. If the Semi conductors gets cut off and the consumer treats the U.S is fucked and their will be riots.
No.550160
>>550137I will enjoy when you get thermobaric bomb'd shill.
No.550162
>>550149Yeah Zelensky encouraging total war seems to have been totally overlooked, if civilians are acting as combatants then that will make Russian soldiers way more prone to killing innocents a la Vietnam war
No.550163
>>550146Isn't that because they're pro Russian?
I mean i guess by that logic they should red out Belarus too.
No.550164
i really wonder if this guy actually thinks he is helping ukrops by being autistic lol
No.550165
>>550155He actually sounds drunk
No.550166
>>550161Russia still wins, this is all that matters
No.550167
>>5501421984 + Brave New World combined, as the cliche goes
No.550168
>>550161MOOOODS, khokhols are at it again, spamming demoralization shit
Russia confiscates cell phones from their troops. Try harder next time.
No.550170
>>550161>They don't get paid shit. Their families don't get paid shit if they get KIA. If they die their families will be told it was a "training accident" and deny there is even a war taking place. People at home are protesting the war that the government will not admit is occurring and arresting all protestors who protest the non existent war. this glows
No.550171
>>550165I think he's just really exhausted.
No.550172
>>550161Cope this is the war to end all wars
No.550173
>>550166As a veteran my heart goes out to these guys. I know they are fighting for their country, I know they are loyal as hell, I know they will give everything, I know they will follow orders. I know what its like.
No.550174
>>550155What the hell? He looks and sounds like an alcoholic uncle.
He should just kill himself already.
No.550175
>>550161t. the ghost of kiev
or more like the glow of kiev, kekekekekeke
No.550176
>>550162A country a lot of them hate is invading them. Zelensky doesn't really need to convince these people to do this. The cynic in me would say he's doing this purely to increase civilian deaths and guilt the EU and NATO into supporting him but i honestly think hes just naive and deluded enough to think this will actually work.
No.550177
>>550173Soldiers always suffer. Ukrainian troops are in a similar situation, just look at these Russian videos with Ukrainian POWs. They should break ranks and fight no more, but this isn't possible, the war will drag on.
No.550179
>>550155>No jets>No no fly zone>EU still not letting Ukraine join>Major cities captured and sieged>NATO not sending anything other than infantry weaponsI don't envy him
>>550161I wonder if the plan was to either have them succeed in 48 hours or just let recon units die eating javelins and drone missiles. Not surprised so many have surrendered
No.550180
>>550161Ah yes, the famous Russian troops with Ukrainian gear speaking with an Ukrainian accent.
No.550181
>>550177>They should break ranks and fight no moreand both should join NATO amirite?
No.550182
>>550150Are those flares?
No.550183
>>55016895% this glows and 5% Ukrainians made it but some russians probably could smuggle their cell phones with them.
No.550184
>>550181No, they should join Warsaw Pact
No.550185
>>550176He is literally distributing weapons and freeing criminals
No.550186
>>550155My God, he's turning into Yeltsin!
No.550189
>>550187Fucking awesome, post it on social media.
No.550190
>Zelensky openly talking about how the war is a battle between civilization and non civilization
No.550192
>>550187top kek, good job comrade
No.550193
>>550188That guy with the glasses looks like a redditor, ngl.
No.550194
>>550181Workers and soldiers should pursue their own interests on both sides
No.550195
>>550182I think they are tracer rounds, probably ricochets
No.550196
>>550190Based Third Rome bringing civilization to the hohol savages.
No.550199
>>550161Tell me about the mobile crematoriums that they actually didn't use because they had to cannibalize the dead to survive in-between pushing the tanks to the battlefield because there is no fuel.
And then the tanks ate the men and the rats ate the tanks and then Putinist necromancy brought them all back to fight again.
No.550200
Does anyone else find it disturbing just how flexibly the narrative seems to change every day? Went from “Ukraine is winning and Russia underestimated the plucky underdogs” to “Russia is razing entire cities and genociding everyone” in a couple of days. And people eat this up because Russia are the baddies and whatever people say about the baddies must be true, and if you disagree you support them. Performative morality has had a disastrous impact on critical thinking skills
No.550201
>>550144its pretty funny how Libs have to change narrative every 2h and whos to slow gets cancelled too
No.550202
>>550193he was probably a redditor in 2014 before Maidan
No.550203
>>550199>and then Putinist necromancy brought them all back to fight again…based.
No.550205
>>550185I never said he isn't encouraging it im saying he really doesn't need to with rampant russophobia and the more obvious fact they are invading their country. Burgers would have done the same shit if the soviets and chinese joined forces and invaded them.
No.550206
>>550190He's getting more unhinged and desperate each day. Yesterday he was basically quoting Lord of the Rings.
He knows the West will sacrifice his whole country. I would start drinking too.
No.550207
>>550187He looks 20 years older
No.550208
>>550204I feel bad for that lil uygha tbh, got scammed by NATO
No.550209
>>550187>>550197>>550204i'm unironically starting to feel bad
No.550212
They banned Russian media (even the entire .ru domain) cos Zelensky is gonna surrender soon and they don't want Russian media gloating about it
No.550213
>>550204>>550197>>550187These are gold, keep it up!
No.550218
When Ukraine loses do you think Anti-Semitism will skyrocket as a Jew with hands tied behind his back gives his country over to Russia?
No.550219
>>550200Omninormalization, breh. It's the next sstep from hypernormalization, or perhapss it's its collapse, I'm not sure. Nothing is real except what you see on TV.
No.550220
Any chances of the west removing the sanctions? Seems like too much of a trouble for too many porkies for nothing
No.550221
>>550218Ukrainian anti-semitic nationalists believe that the country is under jewish occupation since 2014 (Poroshenko is apparently jewish in their minds), they probably will do some nasty things
No.550222
>>550220Nah, West is determined to suicide itself over USA's ambitions of grandeur
No.550223
>>550193He's head mod of r/hoi4
Sorry Ukrops but in the real world the gamer gets the Mariupol
No.550224
>>550211What's with the dark green paintjob over the bottomright of the 2nd Z?
No.550225
>>550218When Ukraine loses there will be a denazification. There won't be any outspoken antisemites left.
No.550226
>>550216>nowI'm fairly sure Biden said early on that there's no way in hell he would send troops.
>>550214What's the background from?
No.550228
Liberals are fucking insane
No.550231
Can anyone get a good screencap of him looking at the camera? I'll try to add the
JUST faace to him.
>>550155 No.550232
>>550220 I heard some porkers were complaining about a proposed fuel sanction but the US' national ego is on the line with this.
No.550233
I wish Qanon was still relevant as these events go on.
No.550234
>>550220About that…
US says it is still considering India sanctions after it abstained in UN vote on Ukrainehttps://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/india-ukraine-sanction-biden-unga-b2027646.html
>The US has once again hinted at sanctioning India over the purchase of a missile defence system from Russia as the South Asian nation continues to balance its relations between the west and Moscow.
>[…]The US’s Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) mandates sanctions against those buying arms from Russia, unless certain exceptions apply or the president chooses to waive them. It has already been used to sanction Turkey for a purchase from Russia.>Before the Ukraine conflict, it had been seen as likely the US would waive sanctions over India’s S-400 purchase, with Delhi arguing the equipment was a necessary deterrent against China.You are with us or against us.
No.550237
>>550234This is truly the cultivation fantasy novel antagonist moment. When protagonist beats them up, instead of reflecting they go on vowing revenge
No.550238
>>550230This is turning out to be one hell of a plan alright.
All Zelensky had to do was get on the U.S. offered Bain plain like Ashraf Ghani did when he bailed out of Afghanistan before the women and kids even got to the airport.
But NOOOOO he has to tell Putin to suck his dick, tell the U.S. to stop being such pussies and instead send him ammo.
Monkey in the wrench. Zero contingency planning for the European Dancing With The Stars champion to stay and face down the combined military forces of Russia, two break away regions, Chechnya and Belarus.
Worlds maddest lad confirmed dabbing of Vlad like a little monkey hiding 100 feet down in a Siberian bunker paranoid as shit that the junta is going to come tear down the bunker door any second.
No.550240
>>550234And just like that the US tore another nation from its sphere of influence
No.550241
>>550230>One peopleI wonder if more is being planned here
No.550242
Who knew that India would be on the train to multipolarity. I thought it was a neolib hellhole with Modi.
No.550243
>>550238CIA bros… why the frig weren't we aware of this invasion before???
No.550244
What type of brain disorder is this?
No.550246
>>550227>>550228Oh, the soy plantation, right.
No.550247
Any stats of the number of puppers, woofers and fluffers killed by Putler?
No.550248
>>550211You know anybody can write a fucking Z on a vehicle, right? Also, this isn't the symbol of the Red Cross, it's simply a symbol for medical equipment, e.g. something that is part of the military.
What spooks me about these videos is that we still haven't seen any evidence of an actual Ukrainian victory in an engagement. I've seen plenty of videos of Russian victories in battle, and I also saw some drone footage by Ukraine. I also don't doubt that in the mud, the Russians certainly have to abandon some of their shit. But I've never ever seen Ukrainian troops
actually winning. I think this type of mentality is dangerous because it encourages Ukrainians to throw their life away in false hope.
No.550249
>>550238You would hope that the military has plans for invasion and defence in all situations rather than just jerking off and having conscripts build their dacha.
No.550252
>>550224Oh no, the ukrop didn't do a good job LOOOOL
No.550253
>>550241Putin has an article about how Ukrainians are delusional Russians whose identity was invented by Germans
en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
No.550255
>>550240What American exceptionalism does to a mf
No.550256
>>550239It also gives cover to the CIA's own agents.
<oh that guy? yeah he was a redditor. totes wasn't us. No.550257
>>550235Why nuclear winter is not as bad as you think it is: a thread 🧵. Unironically though imagine the fucking nightmare reality where the first trans poc president of the United States with a picrew Twitter profile picture ends humanity as we know it because they were convinced by an unsubstantiated Twitter thread that nukes really aren’t that bad. It’s going to happen: we will all die horrifically and the reasons for it will be maddeningly ridiculous
No.550258
I can't stop imagining the world ending in nuclear war because redditors were convinced it was actually a good thing, the world ending with a bunch of upvotes
No.550259
=AMERICAN-INDIAN SPLIT==
https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1499433405913899013?t=lBiW5zXcPseURW_-nsOv_A&s=19PUTLER IS DRIVING THE WEDGE BETWEEN INDIA AND USA EVEN FURTHER
No.550260
>>550235Reminder liberals are actually Fascists in sheeps clothing. All you need to do is work them up into an base irrational emotional frenzy via the right propaganda like Goebbels knew into order to get them to support your genocidal policies.
No.550261
what are good analysists on twitter etc for updates on military front that aren't just UK shilling
No.550262
>>550248>we still haven't seen any evidence of an actual Ukrainian victory in an engagementBecause there are none. There is no Steinerenko coming to save Kiev. Despite some clumsy opening moves, Russia has this thing in the bag at the operational level - main Ukrainian formation pocketed in the east, capital semi-envelloped, and that's after only a week of relatively restrained attacks by second rate troops.
The only victories for Ukraine are in propaganda guzzling by westoids
No.550263
>>550261Why twitter? Use IWS hawkish think-tank or something
No.550264
>>550140is it like a requirement for russian soldier to know how to play a guitar or something, it's like every conflict they been through need to have their own song
No.550265
>>550264I mean most of it are pretty good ngl
No.550266
>>550235These people should be arrested.
No.550267
>>550249Would you plan for this dude starting a national resistance movement?
If Zelensky had fled, the government would have fallen, and the military command structure would be demoralized and surrender most likely.
No.550268
I don't understand a single thing of all the military shit but seeing liberals screech is amuzing
No.550269
>>550267I hope Zelensky hangs himself when he realizes that he will never be this happy ever again.
No.550271
>>550262>Despite some clumsy opening movesThere were no clumsy opening moves, just errors in overall strategy that resulted in hundreds of casualties due to sparing Khokhol "wolverines". Vehicle loss is EXPECTED on use, just look at Romania losing a jet randomly, or Taiwan scrambling jets last year and losing multiple of them over and over again. Don't play into disinfo campaign Khokhols spread around
No.550272
>>550220Not for a while. They’re voting regimes, so they are by their nature irrational and warlike, susceptible to piques of fury and are easily manipulated by destabilizing foreign forces.
No.550273
Any change? Shit has really slowed down to a crawl. Are Ukrainian troops and mercs really holding out this well? I guess the "big high tech stick" NATO gave them truly made and is making a difference.
No.550274
>>550273its soon over. Havent even seen a Ukrainian soldier (not miltia) for 2 days
No.550275
>>550270BASED BEYOND MEASUREKEEP THE CHANGE BRITISH IMPERIALIST DOGS
No.550276
>>550273if you post it enough, maybe it will become true anon :)
No.550278
>>550271>errors in overall strategy that resulted in hundreds of casualtiesThose are the clumsy opening moves. "We will be greeted as liberators" is a fumble of epic proportions.
No.550280
Not sure if indians are based or not
No.550281
>>549897wild how that keeps happening
anyway the swastika is a slavic pagan symbol, nothing to see here, slava ukraini
No.550282
>>550159The semiconductor stuff is overrated big time. The stuff TSMC is required to make is literally “treats” tier. Apple phones and shit. Nothing import requires these ultra tiny transistors. The US has its own fabs and can build more.
No.550284
>>550273Russia gave a day of peace, AGAIN, due to negotiations. They really should stop doing that, Khokhols use negotiations to stall.
No.550285
>>550259can we put apu back on the simpsons now?
No.550286
Neoliberals downplaying nuclear war is actually based tho
POSADAS GANG WWA
No.550290
>>550277checked and based, it really is over for zelensky
No.550292
>>550287based fuck the european social fascist empire
No.550293
>>550274What do you mean? All I've been seeing is Russian troops being captured as well as capture of Russian military equipment and apparently just now the Russians are committing "war crimes" supposedly allegedly. I haven't heard any news about Russians taking territory or any major advances, it seems shit is on total pause. My sources are both MSM and independent media.
No.550294
>>550279Not a happening. They’re already evacuating Chinese from there. Btw, getting Chinese murdered in cold blood by armed mobs is the objective of most Anglo reporting on this crisis. And not just the NYT.
No.550295
>>550279Lmao liberals trying to justify that shit like
>What were chinese students doing at Ukraine?Idk uygha, studying???
No.550297
>Ukraine and the Russian Federation have reached an understanding on the joint provision of humanitarian corridors for the evacuation of citizens, the delivery of food and medicine, said an adviser to the head of Zelensky's office
No.550298
>>550277Or it forces thew Canadian Freedom convoy protest drivers to detour into ambushes and controlled positions.
No.550299
>>550285The strategy isn’t even to caricature our enemies anymore, it’s to just pretend they don’t exist. Look at that dumb shit in the uk where they pulled the Russian Meerkat from the insurance ads off the TV. The mere sight of our enemies is enough to make us seethe ourselves into a white hot rage
No.550300
>>550293its like they told you - all those hecking epic videorinos get closer and closer inland. Youll see what I mean soon. Stay on -Z
No.550304
>>550302I mean why wouldn't he just take everything
No.550306
>>550293You know that widely propagandized statement “no cities have been captured” is not true as of yesterday? Maybe not. No idea how serious the misinformation is out there.
No.550308
Guys, I think I've just stumbled upon something here. This might go over the heads of those who aren't history buffs, but does anyone thing Putin kinda reminds them of Hitler? (that Nazi guy)
No.550310
>>550305yeah but a shitty remake of the the original
No.550311
>>550305If the war will drag on for months there is a possibility of revolution in Russia. But it will end soon because Russia is strong.
No.550312
>>550293>What do you mean? All I've been seeing is Russian troops being captured as well as capture of Russian military equipmentBecause Russian opsec is by the book. The less disciplined DPR and Chechen forces are the only ones on the Russian side posting anything at all. Hence all you see is isolated and fabricated local Ukrainian successes repeated a thousandfold.
No.550313
>>550304Because western Ukraine is a whole new front…
No.550317
>>550309Putin:
"I am a Russian man. I have only Ivan and Marya in my family, as they say. But when I see examples of a man like Nurmagomed Ganzhimagomedov, a native of Dagestan, a Lak ethnicity, other warriors of ours, I want to say: I am a Lak, I am a Dagestani, I am a Chechen, an Ingush, a Russian, a Tatar, a Jew, a Mordvin, an Ossetian.”
No.550318
>>550309>ACKs himself in a war>heroHe's just as much of a moron as the ukrainian who blew up that bridge
No.550320
>>550318He was probably captured, what would you do? the ukrainians already said that they won't take prisoners.
No.550321
>>550257IIRC there really is some debate about whether or not nuclear winter is real, but obviously cities getting reduced to cinders is bad either way.
No.550324
>>550317it's very cynically used here but brotherhood of nations was one of the best parts of the soviet union, maybe it can find it's way again in putinist-dengist russia
No.550327
>>550257When you start seeing your youtube recommendation get flooded with 12 minute videos about how nuclear war is fine, actually, then you should start identifying locations nearby which can be used as fallout shelters.
No.550328
>>550323aw lawl, good job.
No.550329
>>550323already planning on using this
soon (tm)
No.550332
>>550107>How is it even a happening thread even more if we basically ignore what is actually going on, sperg out about most media sources and shitpost the same old >MUH PUTIN >MUH UKROPS >MUH PROPAGANDA REDDITORS DUMB LOL and taking the bait for 'fun' ad infinitum. >Admittedly it is usually better before burger hours and really drops off at 1-5 or so local time, but still I really think we could do better and offer a little more restraint in posting, baiting and shitposting, all of us including self.This. Hard to keep up when there's a million threads seething about reddit
No.550333
>>550314I will never understand why glowies choose "net voyne" as a slogan of the protests against war… It's so american, "(say) no to war"… Very unnatural in russian. war is not a person… I cant even come up with a good slogan…
No.550334
>>550257Nuclear winter probably is not real, but it is disheartening that people believe it matters. The logic is something like this: if the conflict claims every human on Earth, then it cannot be allowed to transpire because then no one will be able to enjoy Freedom and Democracy. But if the conflict only claims, say, a mere 500,000,000 souls, then it is worth it because Freedom and Democracy are worth dying to preserve. It is a backwards, bloodthirsty view: people exist for the sake of ideology, rather than the converse.
It is already being used to justify the insane policies of Zelenskyy: it does not matter if the war is hopeless and the Russians have no interest in eradicating the people of Ukraine, because they want to do something worse in taking away their Freedom and Democracy. So we may as well throw as many souls into the meat grinder as it will take to delay the loss of Freedom and Democracy, the only things worth living for in the first place. Insanity.
No.550336
>>550331I thought the UKR navy was gone
No.550339
>>550336It is, they just WISH it was an Ukrainian navy ship. Reality, LIKE ALWAYS, will be extremely humiliating to khokhols' self-esteem
No.550341
>>550278>"We will be greeted as liberators" is a fumble of epic proportions.This is same type of propaganda as the "Putin expected to win in 72h". Basically saying that Russian are seriously out of touch with reality and are now preforming way worse that they expected. Like Kremlin actually though a country that has been armed and propagandized by NATO by over a half a decade has population that is going to welcome them just like that.
No.550342
>>550324I don't think it's entirely cynical, Putin knows that without it then they'll cleave them all off one by one and have them all fight, and it would be the ruin of them all.
Totally cynical would be like the US where lip service is constantly paid to minorities and diversity to the point of cultish ritual but nothing is actually done to try and fix the issues between them.
No.550343
>>550041>sounds like our grandkids' problem!kek
No.550344
>>550323Next thread image
No.550345
Kievocaust begins tomorrow
No.550346
>>816661
He shot his flares? but I though ukrop air-defenses were completely knocked out
No.550347
>>550331The second pic showing a "burning unknown vessel" might be an old pic from a naval exercise.
>>550340Well we don't know where that video was taken. It could've been off the coast of Crimea. I'm wondering if the Russians will attempt an amphibious landing in Odessa. On the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me if this was a feint to create that appearance to tie up Ukrainian forces in Odessa.
No.550348
>>550270Man libs are really showing their true fascist colors over this aren’t they? Soon enough they’ll be calling for another Bengal genocide.
No.550349
>>550346Ukrops surely still have shoulder-fired MANPADs.
No.550350
>>550331This has been already discussed:
>Fake: In the area of the Odesa Bay, the Armed Forces of Ukraine flooded a landing ship of Russian troops, according to Ukrainian telegram channels.Truth: We refuted this fake in our channel on March 2. It turned out that the news about the sinking of the Russian ship itself was unreliable. Today, new details have appeared: there is evidence that on March 2, a Panamanian cargo ship HELT was sunk by a missile of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on March 2 in the indicated water area. Ukrainian telegram channels first tried to pass it off as a destroyed Russian amphibious assault ship and then put forward a different version. According to it, the ships of the Russian Federation, under the threat of fire, demanded that the civilian vessel HELT enter the Black Sea in order to hide behind it like a human shield. This information is not true, most likely, the Ukrainian media, using this thesis, are trying to justify their armed forces for the murder of civilians.
No.550351
Top Editor at Russia-Backed RT Quits in Protest of Ukraine Invasion
https://www.mediaite.com/news/top-editor-at-russia-backed-rt-reportedly-quits-in-protest-of-ukraine-invasion/top editor at Kremlin-backed media conglomerate RT has quit her job in protest of Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
Maria Baronova, the editor in chief of RT’s Russian-language edition, said she resigned from the outlet in an interview with news outlet Znak.
Baronova told Znak she “has nothing left to talk about” with those who support the invasion of Ukraine, and would not be speaking further about her resignation on social media platforms.
No.550352
>>550351It's Maupin's turn.
No.550357
>>550351This media workers think they will be received warmly in the west. It's sad, honestly. They will be reviled and viewed with loathing and contempt for their entire lives. Time to switch careers and work in ignominy selling cereal or something.
No.550361
>>550351remember during the 2014 people quit Russian today on air
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thlb_P46LmAand abby Martin from rt america criticized ukraine
No.550362
>>550356>>inb4 is a fake.>But I wouldn't be surprised.I have no doubt that these media workers, mostly western facing, educated liberals, would resign over this. They are somewhat misunderstood in the West.
No.550363
>>550351The traitors are purging themselves, great.
No.550364
>>550355I think he means its Maupin's turn to be top editor.
No.550365
>>550333The anti-war movement in Russia is organic. Why are tankies such chicken hawks?
No.550368
>>550363The Russian people are against the war, which is why Putin did this without telling anyone.
No.550369
>>550365It is too organic, to be honest. No serious organization whatsoever.
No.550370
>>550368>without telling anyone.They hatched the plan in the treehouse and hid the water balloons behind the shed.
No.550371
>>550368>Putin did this without telling anyoneIsn't that the reason they are against? he did a bad propaganda job
No.550372
>>550367That's some bad fucking juju. If every single LN and TCN in country started to throw molotovs at me I would probably never want to leave the FOB. Fuck that. Would rather get hit by an IED than some 80 year old babooshka trying to burn me alive with homemade napalm. That shits terrifying.
No.550373
>>550368Explain the rise of Putin's popularity from 60% to 71% backing the war without using an ad-hominem.
No.550374
>>550371People were supporting limited peacekeeping operation in Eastern Ukraine, not fucking bombing of Kharkov
No.550375
>>550370This doesn't even make sense, do you think states aren't capable of keeping secrets or something?
>>550371It's probably because the war is wrecking the already shitty economy in Russia.
No.550379
>>550373Is this data from ВЦИОМ?
No.550380
>>550378Wait, so what is your source that "Russians are against the war"?
No.550381
Why russia agreed to a cease fire? the back stabbing Khokhols will use that to hand out more weapons and keep going with the massacre.
There's no humanitarian corridor, Zelensky has made clear that every ukrainian male is already dead, either fighting the russians, killed by the volkstrumm accused of sabotage or killed by the army trying to escape, why he has not been coup'd is beyond me.
No.550382
>>550376>the black guy with the azov hodieseens about right.
No.550383
>>550356It's not fake she posted it on her telegram
https://t.me/s/Baronova No.550384
>>550366Man, I sure hope
SarumanPutin doesn't have any surprises…
No.550385
>>550366Aren't a lot of these numbers the same as yesterday except they just threw something like 3000 soldiers on?
No.550386
>>550360The world, or isolationism.
Do you think this war will soften the hearts of some world leaders and strike for more unity, alliances, trade pacts and cooperation?
One things for sure, everything will be different after this. the rules have been reset.
No.550387
>>550372And then nobody even bothers to pick babooshka's corpse because everyone thinks she deserved it. Those guys had RELATIVES, ffs. Nobody came to claim the corpses
No.550389
>>550380Ah, so you don't actually have a source. My source was the anti-war protest yesterday in Moscow, where 1400 people were arrested. Also reports from David Swanson of "World Beyond War" activist group.
No.550390
>>550385That's how nazis did it as well
No.550391
>>550388burgers would have been shelling this city without warning for 7 days now
No.550392
>>550258Reminds me of that gif of a CIA server running alone in a bunker in a post-apocalyptic future, posting shit like "nuclear exchange with China was the correct decision" to reddit until the end of time.
Does anyone have it? It doesn't seem to be on the booru.
No.550394
>>550367>Dog eats one Ukrainian. It's a dated video - from that Kherson case of Ukrops trying to throw MolotovsI read a memoir of a U.S. Marine who fought in Fallujah who recalled seeing human remains being blown up into some wires and dripping down onto the street and dogs were there snapping at the goo. It's like war is a brutal nightmare.
No.550395
>>550391Once Kiev is encircled it will turn in to Stalingrad. I'm sure you bloodthristy tankies will applaud that but it's just going to galvanize the world even more against Russia.
No.550396
>'NOTHING TO LOSE'>Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has stayed in Kyiv, releasing regular video updates to the nation. In his latest message, he said Ukrainian lines were holding. "We have nothing to lose but our own freedom," he said.https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/top-wrap-2-russian-troops-strategic-black-sea-port-city-kherson-mayor-says-2022-03-03/Psychotic.
No.550397
>>550393I can't read Russian.
No.550398
>>550388Why don't people in these trash threads ever state their sources hmmm? I wonder why????
No.550400
>>550381Ceasefires and the creation of humanitarian corridors for evacuating civilians are used in modern wars to manage the displacement of civilians.
No.550401
>>550366They're pushing this bs way to hard now
No.550402
>>550392pls someone post it
No.550403
>>550393I can't even read the dates on this thing.
No.550404
>>550395Stalingrad was never encircled and was thus able to receive reinforcements and fresh equipment. Worth keeping in mind.
No.550405
>>550379
>The level of Russians' confidence in President Vladimir Putin has increased from 60% to 71% in a week, according to a poll by FOM.Other comrades here have posted other polls.
This is the lowest I've found, others raised Putin's popularity to up tp 89%.
>>550378>asks proofs>from a reply to a post without proofsSmells ukrop intensively in this post.
No.550406
>>550375I think it's disingenuous NATO propaganda that seeks to imply the conflict is caused by Putin's flights of whimsy and throw everything else ,especially NATO's escalation under the rug.
With the characteristic initialization of propaganda.
No.550407
>>550391they did threw leaflets that said that they would kill any male of combat age one time
No.550408
>>550386I guess you could call it a really big reset
No.550410
>>550405There's a lot of "shy" support for Putin and the war. It's like a silent majority. They're not vocal like the anti-war crowd but I've read some anecdotal accounts of it.
No.550413
>>550404The Nazis in Stalingrad were though lmao, same will happen to Nazis in Kiev
No.550414
>>550367Human flesh is quite hard to tear, I doubt the dog is actually eating it, maybe some organs or slurping some blood or something, maybe he's just sniffin'
No.550415
>>550409This is kind of a brutal, mafioso thing where the boss puts his underlings in their place. Also you'll see this kind of thing among top-tier Russian businessmen.
No.550416
>>550411because i'm not a redditor
No.550417
>>550396Zelensky is willing to fight til the last man, himself.
No.550418
>>550411BBC journalists are actually not required to maintain neutrality on foreign affairs. This is basically domestic misinformation lol. On the topic of foreign policy, the BBC actually is chartered to take direction from the Foreign Office.
No.550420
What happened to the Ghost of Kiev
No.550421
>>550405>>550410I've heard a lot of conflicting reports from different places. In reality a lot of people are probably waiting to see how the war turns out before they express themselves too much.
No.550422
>>550405>from a reply to a post without proofsI'm sorry that you don't watch any news that doesn't confirm your bias, but the anti-war protests in Moscow were a major story yesterday.
I can't read this poll, but for the sake of argument let's say it's true. It's still doesn't mean there's a strong anti-war movement in Russia. The poster I was responded to said it was completely astroturfed.
No.550423
>>550407And look how well that worked out for us….
First as TikTok upload, then as Instagram.
No.550426
>>550424What about the Cougar of Kiev?
No.550427
>>550406It's not disingenuous, it just means that Putin wouldn't have been able to get public support for the war if he hadn't just acted unilaterally.
No.550428
>>550410>>550421Exactly. Putin will be hated if Russia loses, for sure. But she hasn't lost yet
No.550429
Where the fuck are the maoists?
No.550430
>>550410>>550421American in Russia, can say not very much fervent support but most people are at least passively in support. Most wish war would end but don't blame Putin. Obviously diversity of opinions as in any country though
No.550431
>>550395>The world against RussiaBut is it
The Free World(tm)? Or are we talking about those icky brainwashed useful idiots that don't know what's good for them?
No.550433
Let me make /leftypol/ mad: Russia bad.
No.550434
>>550366>Russia losses 9000 troopsWhat the hell? Did the ukrainians reach moscow or something?
No.550436
>>550433i'm heckin mad saboteur.
No.550437
>>550434There's like 90k Russian troops in Ukraine right now.
No.550439
>>550426Banging early 20's Russian conscripts
No.550441
>>550433>sabocatmore like saboteur
No.550443
>>550433yeah fuck offffffffffffffffffff
boo you such
No.550444
>>550420He finally went to heaven after killing the whole invading russian army.
No.550445
>>550433GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
No.550446
>>550422>I'm sorry that you don't watch any news that doesn't confirm your bias>no u
>but the anti-war protests in Moscow were a major story yesterday.>in a country of 145 million, 2k people are decessive.
>I can't read this poll, but for the sake of argument let's say it's true>oh no, because it's in cyrilic it's fakeWhat are you doing here in a thread of Rus/Ukr if you can't understand shit of what's happening? I am translatating the best I can, if you don't like it, go to umod that posts everything in very well written English so it is obvious they are not talking to their Ukraianian popularion anymore.
>It's still doesn't mean there's a strong anti-war movement in RussiaAgain, the popularity of Putin raised, multiple polls has shown.
>The poster I was responded to said it was completely astroturfed.>implying liberals in Russian aren't astroturfed by western liberalsoh wow, it seems you have never been in a country with an U.S. embassy that requires "democracy" urgently.
No.550448
>>550434I like how this number has increased by 3000 since two days ago. Btw the pentagon "confirmed" this so nobody in the official west can call out how obviously fake the numbers are.
No.550449
>>550448Pretty sure tanks and helicopters are the exact same number
No.550451
>>550449There's simply no where for 3000 soldiers to die. I really can't emphasize how ridiculous this is. If they were playing non-stop CoD matches against each other, they'd record fewer deaths.
No.550453
>>550446I'm not going to take a poll at face value. My opinion of Russian sentiment was informed by the protests yesterday and other activists confirming the same thing.
Like who took this poll and what is their reputation. You can get all butthurt about these reasonable questions. If it's true, it's true and I'll concede the point.
>in a country of 145 million, 2k people are decessive.1400 people were arrested, so the protest was probably a lot bigger. Regardless, that's a lot of people to come to a protest after only a few days. All you tankies operate the same way, any little ambiguity in a point is blowing up to be AN EPIC BTFO! You're coping to the extreme if you think it's crazy to believe potentially causing WWIII might be unpopular.
>oh wow, it seems you have never been in a country with an U.S. embassy that requires "democracy" urgently.>Everything I don't like is astroturfed.*yawn* you guys say this about everything.
No.550454
If the fucking ukrainians are capable of killing 9000 russian troops in one week (36000 per month) then why the fuck they need NATO for, they can wipe out the entire russian army assigned to ukraine in less than 3 months.
No.550455
>>550433It worked! Nice job
No.550456
>>816865
for what purpose, i seriously hope you are getting paid for this because if not you are so autistic i really don't see any way life could possibly be worth living still
No.550457
>>550454They are simply the most effective fighting force in world history.
No.550459
>>816865
Seek psychiatric help, Ukraine won't last more than a week I hope you are ready when reality kicks in
No.550460
>>550459he will just get assigned to another department
No.550463
>>550434They're taking a page from the Black Book of Communism
No.550464
>>550461They're not going into Ukraine/Moldova
No.550465
>>816865
The general killed in combat is a lie and everyone has realized already.
No.550467
>>550454NATO has dumped their entire strategic man portable missile arsenal into the AO including Turkey supplying some really good advanced drone technology. the Swiss, the fucking Swiss are supplying 5000 advanced RPG systems.
The U.S. is probably sending every single Javelin and Stinger manpad they have in their inventory. Fighters are flooding across the border to help without wearing military uniforms.
Elon musk just shipped in a whole bunch of Starlink satellite systems.
No.550468
>>550461There will be some kino standoff pictures when the Russians reach the border
No.550469
>>550467Did you copypaste this from reddit
No.550470
>>550464Highly unlikely yeah. U.S. is increasing their forces in Romania though.
No.550471
>>550467God I need highway of death but for redditors so bad
No.550473
>>550453>I'm not going to take a poll at face valueAnd here we are, the idealist liberal who rejects scientific data without giving counter factual scientific evidence to rebuke the point.
>Like who took this poll and what is their reputationI said "without using ad-hominems" kek
>My opinion of Russian sentiment was informed by the protests yesterday and other activists confirming the same thing.yeaaaah totally forming a bias around those 100% legit protests, kek.
>that's a lot of people to come to a protest after only a few days2k in a fucking city of millions
>that's a lotay lmao…. well, seems you have never been in a popular movement that is capable of gather millions.
>*yawn* you guys say this about everything.You are free to go. remember do not cry when zelinsky is arrested/couped by his military junta/killed, and Ukraine isuccumbs.
No.550474
Why do you hate fellow redditors?
No.550475
Japan is sending in the The Ghost of Toshiba
No.550476
>>550467The putlerite cope when this becomes a decade long CIA backed insurgency instead of a swiift victory will be almost as delightful as the ghost of kiev admirer liberal tears I'm drinking right now
No.550478
>>550469He's not coming up with it himself I can tell you that
No.550479
>>550477is this a deep fake? look at his ears, what the fuck?
No.550481
>>550477This is a deepfake isn't it
No.550482
>>550476I don't think Europe will enjoy having a region flooded with uncontrolled arms, ununiformed soldiers, and thousands of unpaid foreign mercenaries with no declared allegiance occupying a place like Ukraine for any period of time.
The strategy right now is just extremely unclear.
No.550483
>>550480The best thing awaiting foreign nationals in the combat zone is imprisonment. Consider carefully if you want to help Nazi regime.
No.550484
>>550479Looks like a bald filter from tik too
Probably hoping to not end up butchered by an angry Chechen
No.550485
>>550454IFt. really considering their numbers from the side who brought you the comedy/drama of the ghost of kiev.
No.550487
>>550477Hahahaha
Is the face really from the leader?
No.550488
>>550473>And here we are, the idealist liberal who rejects scientific data without giving counter factual scientific evidence to rebuke the point.Polls aren't inherently scientific.
>I said "without using ad-hominems" kekThat's not an ad-hominem, just a question.
>yeaaaah totally forming a bias around those 100% legit protests, kek.Russia has worse poverty wealth inequality and poverty than the US. Not sure why you think it's impossible for there to be significant opposition to the war. Especially since it could start WWIII.
>2k in a fucking city of millions You've never organized anyone, that's a lot for such short notice and is a harbinger for larger protests. And it was 1400 ARRESTED, not simply protesting.
>ay lmao…. well, seems you have never been in a popular movement that is capable of gather millions.I have actually.
>You are free to go. remember do not cry when zelinsky is arrested/couped by his military junta/killed, and Ukraine isuccumbs.Couldn't care less about Zelensky and haven't brought him up once. Maybe, just maybe not everyone who argues with you is that liberal strawman you built up in your head.
No.550489
Ukraine is a horrible terrain for "muh aghanistan jihadi guerilla tactics" it's all plain like a Pettanko with nowhere to hide, the ukrainian morale is low after they realized NATO abandoned them, and the world is realizing how horrible the ukranians are after the Azovs, the molotovs, the volkstrumm the indian students etc surfaces
This is yet another cope, we're getting closer, the more desperate they are the most retarded their copes get.
No.550490
>>550476NATO is retarded if they don't think those weapons are going to flow backwards into Europe into terror groups. Idk why euros are rushing to help turn Europe into the middle east in terms of stability.
No.550491
>>550212>They banned Russian media (even the entire .ru domain)Problem is almost all of Tor exit nodes are in the West, you'd need some other proxy within Russia. I wonder if we'll also see ISPs blocking connections to/from Russian IPs.
No.550492
>>550482Makes more sense when you realise America is also doing containment on the EU
No.550493
>>550476Putin wouldn't be encircling cities if he thought there'd be a swift victory. This is going into siege warfare now, and all the HD video of civilians getting vaporized is going to sink Russia's reputation even more.
No.550494
>>550463Nah, they learned all the wrong lessons of Finnish War and WW2. Overinflating enemy casuaties doesn't fucking work
No.550495
> before all. Almost.:
>❗️The United States does not foresee Russia's exclusion from the UN Security Council - Psaki
>⚡️There are currently no discussions in the UN Security Council about sending peacekeepers to Ukraine - RIA Novosti source
>The US is not going to create a no-fly zone over Ukraine, it threatens a war with the Russian Federation, Washington wants to avoid exactly this - Psaki
Well there goes all the ukrainian diplomatic efforts, to the trash can.
<President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky said he did not understand Moscow's demands towards Kiev
>"We are not attacking Russia, we are not going to attack it. <…> Are we in NATO? - No. Do we have nuclear weapons? - No. What should I say, to whom should I give something?" Zelensky said.
Playing the dumb, is he?
No.550496
>>550491Has America also banned Russian media?
No.550498
>>550495>Ukraine votes no to being included in NATO year after year.>Russia: WE HAVE TO STOP THIS!Once again authoritarian tankies ignore the will of the people. Only this time it will be their undoing.
No.550499
>>550497<still no videos of civilians vaporized by Russian missiles,If you say so tankie.
No.550500
>>550498While anti-authoritarians are joining literal nazi battalions
No.550502
>>550498Sorry sweatie but the people of Russia have outvoted the Ukrainians
No.550503
>>550318Packed your bags for polska yet, Bohdan?
No.550504
>>550500>You have to invade an entire country to stop one Nazi battalion.Taking a playbook from the Americans I see.
No.550505
>>550504There are four of them you retard
No.550506
>>550496No you can get RT here still. There's no mechanism to ban it here. It would get overturned in court super fast.
T. 🍔
No.550507
>>550501The molotovs being given to civilians to throw at tanks.
No.550508
>>550502>Implying that Putin is a rightfully elected leader.Big oof.
No.550510
>>550495>>"We are not attacking Russia, we are not going to attack it. <…> Are we in NATO? - No. Do we have nuclear weapons? - No. What should I say, to whom should I give something?" Zelensky said.
>Playing the dumb, is he?Wait did he seriously say this? This is actually a major shift in tone if so… could be the beginning of actual negotiations.
No.550511
>>550482Strategy is simple.
What runs out first, the Javelins, RPG's, and Stingers
The bodies to use them
Or the Russian military hardware from Russia, Belarus and Chechnya
No.550512
>>550505Oh, that justifies it then.
No.550513
The best thing is MSM happily describing urban freedom fighters who make molotovs and arm themselves with rifles.
No.550514
Raytheon stock up 7.5% since 2/24 and ~17% since December
No.550517
>>550511It'll escalate to WWIII before that. This needs to be stopped diplomatically now.
No.550518
>>550517Nah I want to see the angry bear some more
No.550519
>>550515>Ukraine's a failed state run by a puppet.Famous last words for you and Putin.
No.550520
>>550517You better be uploading a good thread music theme for the upcoming Fresh thread
Its your turn
No.550522
What if Ukraine capitulates but the nazi battalion claims that it doesn't recognize it and keeps fighting and forcing civilians to fight?
No.550523
>>550518Very tough words there Mr. Chicken Hawk.
No.550524
>>550522These battalions are already encircled
No.550525
>>550522Terrorists go brainsplat on the road, then
No.550526
>>550522putin double victory
No.550527
>>550488>Polls aren't inherently scientific. Motherfucker, of course they are, specifically they are used in the qualitative research methodology, lmao. Of course, you can frame a question to twist the results, but in that case you have to bring a counter-poll to dismiss the first one. You aren't doing such thing, retarded idealist, you rather want to look at the protest and believe it is a "Russian people are against the war" lmao STFU.
>That's not an ad-hominem, just a question.And you have the answer who did the research. And the question is evident you are doing an ad-hominem.
>Russia has worse poverty wealth inequality and poverty than the US.This is a lie, Russia has a better GINI coeff than the U.S.
>Not sure why you think it's impossible for there to be significant opposition to the war.Because the polls shows something quite different, you dumbshit.
>Especially since it could start WWIII.>non-sequitur.
>You've never organized anyoneBitch, I am in a party
>And it was 1400 ARRESTED, not simply protesting.Oh wow, in a city of 11.92 million surely Russians do not support the actions of their government.
>Maybe, just maybe not everyone who argues with you is that liberal strawman you built up in your head.>implying that you aren't building strawman in a thread to build a divert action against Russia using liberal idealism.Go fuck yourself.
No.550529
>>550521What is he saying tho
No.550530
>>550521> white, yellow and blackOh fuck
No.550531
>>550529Russian actions are legitimate and Kharkov citizens should support Russian army instead of Ukrainians.
No.550532
>>550521Holy shit we're truly going back to 1980.
No.550534
>>550521That will look great for global metrics, the return of the Soviet Union in Europe. Surely NATO and all of Europe, and anyone in Europe who is not yet a member of NATO and is on the fence about it will want to negotiate and recognize these breakaway regions now right?
If the world was more tolerant of the soviet flag being displayed instead of the swastika, boy have I got news for yall.
Optics are a spook apparently.
Would hate to be a member of AntiFa in the U.S. marching openly in the near future in any western progressive nation. Gonna be bodies splattered with yellow and blue paint with roasties taking selfies over the corpses holding up peace signs saying 'I Stand with Ukraine!"
No.550536
>>550522These guys are going to get extracted by some U.S special forces. Given tons of weapons and money and become vanilla ISIS of the Euro-zone.
No.550537
>>550489Iraq is flat and open too.
No.550538
>>550533Some probably have, we just don't know yet
No.550539
>>550521Sauce on this video. Why is he showing that flag lol
No.550540
>>550537The terrain arguement is a giga cope. With enough popular support an insurgency is possible everywhere. And with US money and weapons…
No.550542
>>550537When it rained in Iraq the sand because some of the worst sticky unbearable mud I have ever seen on planet earth. And I live where the soil is basically red clay.
No.550543
>>549964Ukraine will win with endless guerilla warfare, being severely damaged in the process
losing to a country "made up by the Bolsheviks" and the sanctions will completely wreck Russia, Venezuela-tier
t. anti-Russia Russian
No.550545
>>550499You think tankies support Putin or his invasion? You must be very young, very uneducated or very stupid. Or all 3.
No.550546
>>550539Tsarism is back babyyy
No.550547
Why are people so convinced the USSR lost the winter war?
No.550549
>>550542>When it rained in Iraq the sand because some of the worst sticky unbearable mud I have ever seen on planet earth. That would cause more problems for insurgents than for the people with helicopters. The other Anon is right, insurgency is possible anywhere. Even if Ukraine's countryside is flat and open, Ukros could still do urban guerilla warfare IRA style.
No.550551
>>550548>sends thoughts and prayers in IndonesianSent : )
No.550552
>>550527>Motherfucker, of course they are,Motherfucker, of course they are,
No they aren't. You can change opinion with polls themselves. There's even a name for them, they're called push polls.
>You aren't doing such thing, retarded idealist, Right, I'm the idealist for not just taking your word for it. All these polls proving everyone loves Putin but no methodology or critical analysis of the polls.
>And you have the answer who did the researchNo I don't. You didn't say who did the poll.
>And the question is evident you are doing an ad-hominem.It's not, checking for bias is not an ad-homiem.
>This is a lie, Russia has a better GINI coeff than the U.S.They have a slumlord crisis and worse poverty that the US. It's widely recognized that the country is run by oligarchs.
>Because the polls shows something quite different, you dumbshit.Which is why I wanted to confirm the methodology. I'm open to being wrong, but I'm not going to just uncritically accept a blurry picture, especially when you say this sentiment is so well established.
>Especially since it could start WWIII.>non-sequitur.I think NATO is right next door if I'm not mistaken.
>Bitch, I am in a party(x) doubt
>Oh wow, in a city of 11.92 million surely Russians do not support the actions of their government.In 4 short days? Yes it's impressive.
>Go fuck yourself.*eyeroll*
No.550553
>>550544It is a flag used by monarchists and Russian ultranationalists
No.550555
>>550547bro after this war is over, Ukraine will be annexed, and Russia will have inflicted 5x as many casualties as they took and libtards will still pretend the Ukrainians won, same with the Finns
No.550556
>>550545Okay smart ass, you tell me then, do tankies support the invasion, Putin or both?
No.550558
>>550554Haha le post irony haha
No.550559
>>550545I don't support Putin personally, but I certainly support his military operation to denazify ukraine.
Cope and seethe.
No.550560
What will the long term consequences of this be? Russia's economy is probably fucked for a long time thanks to the sanctions, but this could lead to it falling under China's sphere of influence, not to mention the effects the EU will feel from losing access to Russian resources they depend on. Now you have the US threatening to sanction any country that isn't against Russia, even neutral nations, which will drive those states away from west.
>>550433Yes, but in the big picture this is unironically America's fault.
No.550561
>>550557“Fuck it, one struggle.”
No.550563
>>550557These are schizos who try to communicate with their ancestors by dancing around the fire lol
No.550564
>>550560Russia will become a North Korea and Iran tier economy. They won't be able to win the peace in Ukraine.
No.550565
Putin annexes Belarus and East Ukraine into the Union of Tsarist Capitalist Republics, based or cringe?
No.550567
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1499461555292880903can't wait to see this uyghas head on top of the odessa trade union house
No.550568
>>550565Incredibly cringe
No.550569
>>550560>Russia's economy is probably fucked for a long time thanks to the sanctions, but this could lead to it falling under China's sphere of influenceI don't think this gets mentioned enough. With these sanctions China will probably become Russia's economic lifeline. Even if Putin guarantees NATO takes a step back from Russia's borders, it may come at the cost of major economic (and therefore political) dependence on China. It's surreal, it's like a twisted version of the good timeline where the Sino-Soviet split is repaired and communism wins the Cold War.
No.550573
>>550570>Russian IsekaiOh man I wish some of this shit was translated into English lmao
No.550574
So Foreign Affairs and The Atlantic keep being the sanest burger papers?
No.550575
Translation:
>I, Lieutenant Colonel Chuikov Andrei Yurievich, appeal to all law enforcement officers of Ukraine, as well as cadets of paramilitary educational institutions and their parents!
>Stop resisting the legitimate people's power immediately! Lay down your weapons and join our liberation march on Kiev! The enemy, who brazenly uses your children in his criminal machinations and scams - does not value them more than a penny, and we consider them our brothers!
>Remember our common heroes! This is Colonel Tonkopiy, who died on the streets of Kharkov at the hands of Banderaevites, remember General Vatutin, who liberated our beloved city! There is enough room in our city for everyone: for Russians, for Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Jews!
>Kharkov is our city and we love it! Let's stop destroying it and make our lives better!
>The enemy will be defeated, the victory will be ours!
No.550579
>>550560It's really iffy if China keeps trading with Russia. I think everyone forgets what a manufacturing powerhouse the US is because it outsourced everything to China.
But the US could easily bring all that back and sanction China too.
No.550580
>>550575Based speech, ukrops seething and coping rn.
No.550581
>>550570Shay, what you have to say for yourself for breaking time ?.
No.550582
>>550579It is much harder than you make it sound.
No.550583
>>550579-americans are not willing to work at the wages the chinese are
-china can just say no and nationalize fireign owned factories
No.550584
>>550577They are really good on IR, better than any other American media
No.550586
>>550584better than mainstream American media? low bar
No.550587
>>550529A lot of stuff, a weird ass to say "do not fight Russians".
First he talks about it's brother being Russian and Ukrainian, but the Ukrainian brothers were killing their brothers children (I guess it DBR talking?), then goes to say that stop reporting to Ukrainian government and report to Russia. Talks about a general leader that fought in the great war (WWII) which he's a like a liberator, Russian, but also Ukrainian by the liberation he did. And finally asks to surrender, because the "enemy will win", means Russia.
No.550588
>>550576lol no wonder one of them punched him when they saw it
No.550589
>>550582It's really not, the US manufacturing base was in even worse shape during the 1930's and they brought it all back up for WWII.
The US didn't even outsource it's most valuable stuff like airliners. Everyone crows about how China played the US but it's really the other way around.
No.550590
>>550586Can you name socialist media with good analysis on topic?
No.550591
>>550579china has said over and over that they won't stop trading with russia.
No.550592
>>550576Realistically speaking what will happen to these nazis caught by russians or chechens? Will they really torture and kill them?
No.550593
>>550579Yeah mate just move the world's most advanced industrial base back to Detroit. Simple as innit
No.550594
>>550576all these retards got permanent marks on them that they are nazis
holy fuck they are all going to die lmao
No.550596
>>550579>I think everyone forgets what a manufacturing powerhouse the US is because it outsourced everything to China.Wait until Agent Kochinski comes back online and go cope about "US stronk" there, please
No.550597
>>550570Ok, now this is epic.
No.550601
>Zelensky:I'm open to negotiate, I really are, I'm a normal guy, we're neighbors let's sit and negotiate.
>But give me Donbass and Crimea first.
What a retard.
No.550602
>>550579>But the US could easily bring all that back and sanction China too.Nope. They're fucked.
No.550603
>>550583>-americans are not willing to work at the wages the chinese areWhy would they have to?
>-china can just say no and nationalize fireign owned factoriesSure, but China still does not have a strong enough domestic market. Or manufacturing base, it can't build several big ticket items like a internationally competitive car. If China could build world competitive commodities without the US they would be doing it already. If the US left, a lot of China's manufacturing capability would leave with it.
No.550605
>>550602Nah, read about how the US revived it's manufacturing base for WWII.
No.550606
>>550595lmfao, glad I opened vlc to view this
No.550607
>>550596US owns the world. Like how do you think they're able to do that?
No.550608
>>550522Azov would just be crushed.
No.550609
>>550593It really is though.
No.550611
>>550589The reason the US was so successful during that period in its industrialization was that all the industrial capital in Europe was wiped off the map. Nowadays they would have to compete with China. Europe's manufacturing never came back. The historical position US now finds itself in is that of Europe in the 1950s, except with the privilege of finance capital allowing them to reap profit from industrial production they no longer possess.
No.550612
>>550522Wow what a horrible scenario in your head.
No.550613
>Sure, but China still does not have a strong enough domestic market.
It does, exports only amount to 20% of chinese GDP
> Or manufacturing base, it can't build several big ticket items like a internationally competitive car.
They already do,most of the third world drives chinese cars, chinese trucks, etc
>If China could build world competitive commodities without the US they would be doing it already.
They already do.
No.550614
>>550522> Ukraine capitulateswon't happen unless you nuke them or something
No.550615
Hey guys what if Zelensky comes out and peels off his nose and underneath it is a swastika?
No.550616
>>550590Responsible Statecraft is like the left side of The Blob but I haven't read them on this yet.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/Here's Breakthrough news + The Socialist Program talking about it, reposted on PSL's news site
https://www.liberationnews.org/ukraine-war-whos-to-blame-and-whats-the-solution-a-socialist-view/ No.550617
Just woke up has Mariupol been liberated yet?
No.550618
>>550610>The Japanese government sharply criticized a former prime minister on Wednesday for his visit to the Black Sea peninsula of Crimea, saying his action is at odds with Japan’s stance on the Ukraine situation and calling him “grossly imprudent”. (2015)what's his deal? why has he been on crimea's side so long?
No.550619
>>550549Let's be real they will just bomb supermarkets in Ukraine, Russia, and the rest of Europe cause they think they stabbed them in the back.
No.550620
>>550617doesn't look like it
No.550621
>>550611>Nowadays they would have to compete with China.If China were a manufacturing peer, they'd be making their own airliners and internationally sold cars. China relies on the US for tech and processes because it cannot do it on it's own.
>The historical position US now finds itself in is that of Europe in the 1950s, except with the privilege of finance capital allowing them to reap profit from industrial production they no longer possess.You're really delusional if you think the US will give up it's hegemony because it's hard to bring back factories to the US. It will be done, it was done in the Cold War, it will be done again.
No.550622
>>550621You understand so little about the subject that this discussion is not worth having.
No.550623
>>550575>>550587 (me)
Ah, this sounds more likely.
>>550552
>No they aren't. You can change opinion with polls themselves. There's even a name for them, they're called push polls.Jesus, why I waste time arguing with a psued:
(picrel, book: Statistical Analysis for Education and Psychology Researchers Tools for researchers in education and psychology by Ian Peers, Chapter 1 Statistics and Research Design, page 6)
>dr the rest, IFAG No.550624
The right is going to use this as an excuse to target leftists globally.
The left will now be associated with supporting the Russian bombing of innocent cute white children in major capitols unless they openly and publicly denounce Russian and the communist flag they are openly flying, as well as AntiFa, any militant leftist organizations (think john Brown gun Club).
The right will align successfully with an AZOV position and go full mask off, and utilize the lefts support of the war to drag them over towards the grill pill center for discussion.
>>550585Does Agent Kochinski really command that large of a following to turn pissing into a sea of piss meaningful in any way?
No.550626
View of Shostka being liberated through a tiny, shitty, infrared camera on the left side with an autistic operator
https://youtu.be/x3yMxxAkN4w No.550627
>@RT_com's account has been withheld in Belgium, Austria, Bulgaria, Sweden, Croatia, Spain, Slovenia, Cyprus, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Romania, Portugal, Poland, Denmark, Netherlands, Estonia, Malta, Luxembourg, Finland, France, Lithuania, Germany, Greece, Latvia, Hungary, Italy, Ireland in response to a legal demand.
No.550629
>>550619Maidan 2.0 is probably a much bigger danger tbh. Even if Russia wins and annexes Eastern Ukraine or creates a new state there, the sanctions and lack of recognition will make it very difficult to rebuild from the war or provide a decent standard of living. Anti-Russian sentiment will be widespread from the invasion as well. I don't see how they can successfully expect to hold any part of Ukraine apart from Donbass after this, and if they withdraw entirely I don't see how they could enforce any neutrality on Ukraine's part.
No.550630
>>550624this, 47% of burgers think putin is a communist
No.550631
>>550621>China relies on the US for tech and processes because it cannot do it on it's own.Are you sure? That doesnt seem to be true any longer. What about Huawei etc?
No.550632
>>550613>It does, exports only amount to 20% of chinese GDPIt's been trying and failing to create a domestic market forever. I know because every business magazine will not shut up about it.
>They already do,most of the third world drives chinese cars, chinese trucks, etcLol no, Chinese cars are not sold internationally except in 3rd world markets where they still struggle against Japanese imports.
>They already do.They don't, if they did there'd be Chinese branded cars and computers in stores, not US branded ones.
No.550633
>>550630Is he not? He's ex-KGB. Maybe Americans are better-informed than you. Heard of Dunning-Kruger?
No.550635
>>550631There's fields where they've developed some of their own tech, but overall no. China will most likely capitulate to US pressure to isolate Russia. Then all these gloating tankies will have to answer to an destitute Russian public.
No.550636
>>550633The statistic is about Russia, not Putin.
No.550638
>>550624Most of the left outside of this thread doesn't support the Russian invasion, and Putin is broadly seen as a reactionary IRL and has had more support from reactionaries in the west than about anyone else.
No.550639
>>550635I'm going to gloat when you're wrong.
No.550640
>>550635>noooooo history will go back in its box and i will go back to hamburger and onlyfans!!lol
cope
No.550641
>>550624Will that strategy actually work? I think most people outside of Burgerstan/the Anglosphere understand that Russia is not a communist country but a right-wing conservative one. People that understand how Russia’s government actually works will probably not think it’s the communist’s fault for starting the war with Ukraine.
No.550642
>>550624> The left will now be associated with supporting the Russian bombing of innocent cute white children in major capitolsno, only morons from here and r/GenZedong
communist parties are siding with Ukrainian people, anarchists are siding with Ukrainian people
http://solidnet.org/article/Urgent-Joint-Statement-of-Communist-and-Workers-Parties-No-to-the-imperialist-war-in-Ukraine/ No.550643
>>550628lmao Inglorious Basterds 2: Azov edition
No.550644
>>550642Pretty surprising to see the Syrian communists on there. Good for them tbh.
No.550645
>>550635China laid more steel just for it high-speed rail project 2008-2017 than the entire industrial steel consumption of the United States during the 20th century. You really do not have the slightest understanding of what you're talking about. Have you taken a course in it, or are all these statements of your own surmise?
No.550647
>>550604HAAH WAAW
Seriously, can't they see how absurd this is? Sanctions are horrible because they're a form of collective punishment. Now they're going and sanctioning people
outside of their own country, and even bafflingly, erasing their existence.
No.550649
>>550623Push polls along with a whole suite of techniques that are shown to manipulate public sentiment scientifically proven to be effective.
You have to be really disciplined to get something approaching an objective poll. I didn't even question the validity of Putin's polls, just asked who did the poll and what their reputation was and you sperged out. Really speaks volumes about the poll really.
What you posted doesn't debunk anything about push polls.
No.550650
>>550645>China laid more steel just for it high-speed rail project 2008-2017 than the entire industrial steel consumption of the United States during the 20th centurySource? I can't find info.
No.550652
>>550630Are you serious? Americans can't be this uneducated on topic
No.550653
>>550642So only tankies and Nazis are supporting Putin. Curious…
No.550654
Man it's incredible how some westerners cope so hard about china, their brains literally can not comprehend a country overtaking them
No.550655
>>550646Also I have an word file documenting examples of fascism I saw in 2014
Fascists in important Ukrainian goverment positions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Tenyukhhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Parubiyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_Sychhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Mokhnykhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Shvaikahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleh_MakhnitskyiBandera holds Hero of Ukraine status:
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/parubiy-asks-european-parliament-to-reconsider-its-60550.htmlImpressively high double digit results for Svoboda in Galicia:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Svoboda-2012.pngRadical actions in the west during Maidan, including gun seizures from armories:
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/party-of-regions-communist-party-banned-in-ivano-frankivsk-and-ternopil-regions-335655.htmlhttp://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/20/world/europe/ukraine.html?_r=2
>Protesters, he said, had also stormed the offices of the regional governor, a Yanukovych appointee, resuming an occupation that had ended just three days earlier, and raided the local headquarters of the state prosecutor, the state security service and several district police stations. Around 140 guns were seized from a police armory.>Beyond Lviv, antigovernment activists besieged or seized police stations and administrative buildings in Uzhgorod, Lutsk, Khmelnitsky and Poltava.Posturing towards separatism in the west during maidan:
http://ukrainianpolicy.com/did-lviv-just-declare-independence/So, there's at least one article on Right Sector violence:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-crisis-two-dead-in-kharkiv-shootout-ahead-of-crimea-referendum-9194291.htmlThe attack on the communist party HQ in Kiev (btw the party is going to be banned, at least so Turchinov says):
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukrainian-communist-party-leader-suspects-right-sector-freedom-activists-of-setting-fire-to-communist-party-office-looting-342946.htmlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FW4xirM48 the nationalist attack on the KPU's leader in the Rada
Political alliance between Svoboda, Tymoshenko's party, and UDAR:
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/politics/batkivschyna-udar-svoboda-to-coordinate-their-actions-at-presidential-election-324495.htmlWho voted for the repeal of the 2012 language law back in February? Notice the Party of Regions absences, and the aligning of Svoboda and the 'moderate' parties.
http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/radan_gs09/ns_golos?g_id=3894Right Sector to have patrolled Kiev's streets to prevent looting:
http://www.friatider.se/swede-patrols-ukraines-streets-with-right-wing-paramilitaries'Maidan Self-Defense units' and other nationalist militia being sent east, as announced by the Svoboda co-founder Andriy Parubiy himself:
http://uacrisis.org/maidan-self-defense/Fascists flags, bandera portrait, confederate flag & celtic cross in the Kiev city council:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-dHVZTtTxQ#t=12http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73421000/jpg/_73421594_council.jpghttp://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26468720http://img.ntv.ru/home/news/20140114/___.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1463592_466421783478899_2134410469_n.jpgList of nazi attacks
https://oruin.livejournal.com/15965.html No.550656
>>550641I mean the UK Is already calling UK union members who are striking in the british railway Saboteurs but I Feel like it might actually backfire. If their own countries are so shit, might as well stab them in the back.
>>550642Why would you fags want nato around?
No.550657
>>550654Ironically the best historical parallel is probably the disbelief the Chinese felt after the Opium Wars when they realized that savage Western barbarians were leaving them behind.
No.550659
>>550629In essence russia shot itself in the foot here. Now Ukraine will never not join nato, so russia will have to either permanently occupy Ukraine or have to leave and have wasted blood and treasure to only get exactly what they wanted to stop
No.550660
>>550642>no, only morons from here and r/GenZedongCaleb Maupin is more relevant than all these organizations.
No.550661
>>550642That statement blamed NATO lop
No.550663
>>550660lmao probably true
No.550664
>>550645I do, having a bunch of infrastructure like rail doesn't mean you can build jets and a car on par with Toyotas.
Every product in the first world is from a Anglo corp, and really just the labor comes from China. You tankies think you pulled the wool over the eyes of the Western bourgeois by *checks notes* fantastically letting them exploit both their workers and environment for 40 years. You didn't fool anyone, and now you'll pay the price with Sino-Soviet split 2, electric boogaloo.
No.550665
>>550661I also blame NATO, then I blame Russian government for being violent shitheads and support workers of Ukraine against the invasion
No.550666
>>550662I Mean yeah, less proxy states for Nato hurt Nato. I mean I get that you want to tail liberals and shit on tankies every moment in your life (As if we have any effect on anything) but think uyghur. Stop trying to own people online and USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN
No.550668
>>550642>communist parties are siding with Ukrainian people, anarchists are siding with Ukrainian peopleSo, NATO/CIA-curated leftists side with Nazis in Ukraine. Meanwhile, communist China, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam side with Russia and Ukrainian people.
No.550669
>>550661Nobody says NATO is fluffy
No.550670
Another thread, another debate over party statements
No.550671
>>550668OHG NO NO NO NO NO NO HOW WILL I OWN THE TANKIES WITH THIS
Fucking admit it, half you Agent Kochinski uyghurs only want to be smug to internet tankies. Well I will be fucking smug back to you once Nato bends it's knee.
No.550673
>>550668China, Cuba and Vietnam didn't even vote against the anti-invasion resolution
> Nazis in Ukrainekeep repeating the RT.com narrative, you're about for a rude awakening about the desire of Ukrainian proles to be finally free from Russian imperialism after all the centuries
No.550675
>>550666>I Mean yeah, less proxy states for Nato hurt NatoThat doesn't mean an invasion is the best way to accomplish this. This has already led to NATO's internal divisions being reduced, pro-NATO sentiments in other neutral countries (as well as Ukraine itself) to suddenly increase, etc. It's also left Russia relatively isolated, harmed their economy through sanctions. I also don't see how they can enforce any sort of neutral status on Ukraine, since nobody will recognize a treaty imposed through an invasion. Even from the standpoint of combating NATO this was a stupid move.
No.550676
>>550673I think they said elsewhere that they supported Russia. Well at least Cuba and Nam did. It's just that UN resolutions are worthless and it's not even worth the time to say no.
No.550677
>>550673>China, Cuba and Vietnam didn't even vote against the anti-invasion resolutionSo what? China refuses to uphold US sanctions, threatens to sabotage them.
No.550678
Russian citizens clash with IKEA security officers. Earlier the imminent withdrawal of the Swedish company from Russian market has paralyzed Moscow road network.
No.550679
>>550675Pro-Nato sentiments will burn out quickly once the gas prices surge. You are thinking very short term.
No.550680
>>550677of course, Russia is to become China's vassal state due to the sanctions and its ruined economy
No.550681
>>550674Send in the Chechens you cowards
No.550682
>>550659theyre just going to give the captured territory to the two new republics.
No.550684
>>550680And that's bad because??? You know that we are on leftypol, right? you think I'm a Russian nationalist or some shit, don't you, retard?
No.550685
>>550681Depends on how the negotiations go
No.550686
>>550679They aren't sanctioning Russian gas yet, and in the meantime you can bet the EU will be looking for alternatives as quickly as possible.
>>550668Out of those countries only the DPRK voted against condemnation of Russia. I
No.550688
>>550639You're going to be waiting a long time.
>>550640Uh…history isn't on Putin's side homeboy. Have you ever heard of Vietnam, Afghanistan, Return of Afghanistan, The Iraq trilogy?
No.550689
>>550684> You know that we are on leftypol, right?yeah
> you think I'm a Russian nationalist or some shit, don't you, retard?high probability of this, I'm Russian and I'm in shock from the numbers of the Russian govt's simps here
No.550690
>>550686Those alternatives will be more expensive.
No.550692
>>550624I don’t know, most of the right wingers I know are sympathetic to Putin as they see him as anti globalisation
No.550693
Leftypol now shifts to "realist" neocon narrative from the first days of the invasion? I think that multipolarity vs Russia bad arguments were more funny
No.550694
>>550685Well if the negotiations are with Zelensky he will probably sperg out and demand Crimea again. Though it's convenient for him that the people most likely to kill him are in a little cuck pocket waiting to be killed
No.550695
>>550686>Out of those countries only the DPRK voted against condemnation of Russia. IDude, it's UN. Serbia explained away why they didn't openly voted against - due to the threat of enraged West sanctioning them. While explaining, the guy put forward Serbia's red lines on the issue - no sanctions for Russia's banking sector and such.
In other words, vote on words passed in West's favor because it was WORDS.
No.550696
>>550666Ukraine isn't even a NATO member. They've been trying to join for years
and I can't say I blame them now.
No.550697
>>550679Lol, you don't know American's well. Nixon damn near invaded Saudi Arabia over the oil embargo in the 1970's. American's will start sucking crude from Canada or invade Russia themselves if gas prices stay high.
No.550698
>>550665>>550669The entire argument is over who is to blame and thus whether we should side with the West and Ukraine in the name of a liberal lesser evil
If it's the fault of Western imperialism and Ukrainian nationalism, then we can't. This position is strawmanned as saying putin is rationally reacting (true) which justifies invasion (untrue)
No.550700
>>550697I was more thinking about Europe than America on that statement. It seems as if Yankistan is already barely involved in anything anymore
>>550696How do you feel that your brothers in the global south think that you're an idiot for supporting the people who have been raping their lands for years? You fucking Agent Kochinskiit uyghur.
>>550695this
No.550701
>>550696Finland was never at risk of being invaded by Russia (until recently now that they started talking about joining NATO)
No.550702
>>550698This is the most reasonable position. The tankies gloating about the invasion are children that have never know real suffering. This can all be ended peacefully with a neutral Ukraine. That's the true socialist position.
No.550703
>>550695Iirc most of those countries didn't endorse the invasion either. They aren't supporting it in any meaningful way, unless you consider "support" to be the same as not opposing it. Besides, the priorities of parties in government and those that are not are obviously different, so its an apples and oranges comparison. Certainly it's rididiculous to call all the parties that denounced the war "CIA" lmao. You might as well call Lenin a German agent.
No.550704
>>550701Finland is rightful Russian clay. They're Mongolians and shit.
No.550705
>>550592Russia said they were going to de-nazify the country (who consider Russians ethnically inferior because they bred with Mongols blah blah)
These neonazis have collaborated with American imperialism and brought Russia dn Ukraine into war (two brother nations…in fact I don't even really think Ukraine is a separate nation to Russia)
My guess is they're going to made an absolute example of so theyre probably going to end up in a basement whilst a Chechen takes pieces off them with a meat cleaver
No.550706
>>550692They will catch blue and yellow bullets from their peers for supporting the destruction of white families and white cities by the 'mongrel" Asiatic hordes.
These battle lines have already been drawn up, just a matter of time before the shooting begins.
No.550707
>>550691People will try to tell you THIS GUY isn't a communist.
No.550708
Russia bad, Ukraine good, Azov bad
You fascists realize you can hold all these opinions at the same time, right?
No.550709
>>550698Hourly reminder this war was started in 2013 by the USA.
No.550710
>>550698This is honestly the most based take I've seen in these threads. People use strange moral reasoning in events like this.
No.550711
Stupid libs on MSNBC pushing the totally benign-sounding 'no fly zone' over Ukraine lmao
No.550712
>>550708>Ukraine goodNot my position. I think a Russian victory would be preferable, even though I think the invasion should not have happened.
No.550714
>>550708Russia Bad, Ukraine bad, Azov bad because Black Sea infrastructure is much more developed
No.550716
where new thread
No.550717
>>550603And read why Apple took their manufacturing to China
They said nmthey had a serious problem with a piece of the phone and needed to make an adjustment. In the same day the factory managing Apple products took it down the road to another factory the size of a small city and re-tooled the widget they needed and were mass producing it by end of day
US cant do anything close to that
No.550718
>>550703>Certainly it's rididiculous to call all the parties that denounced the war "CIA" lmao.Those parties denounce a country boxed into a corner as an aggressor. Fuck you, seriously. I bet you also fucked up enough to think that DPRK's war against USA's puppet regime wasn't justified.
No.550719
>>550235>last picthese people are fucking psychotic
No.550720
>>550702Yes I agree. I said similar in 2015 too. Imo the socialist position is
1. Peace settlement and autonomy for Donbas and Galicia, one neutral and federalized Ukraine
2. Unity of Ukrainians and Russian proles against the imperialism that exploits their historical divisions. No more small nation enmity and great nation chauvinism
3. Korenization of one socialist Ukraine, the east becomes Ukrainian and the west repudiates nationalism
No.550721
New thread pls
No.550722
>>550708im slightly with russian only for ending the donbass war, it's been going for 7 years now and I think they deserve some peace in their time.
No.550723
Thread is full start anew one
Even though this war is getting boring
No.550724
Sabby x shay when?
No.550725
>>550703>Certainly it's rididiculous to call all the parties that denounced the war "CIA" lmao.It is but it is accurate to call Zelensky, Right Sector, Azov, Svoboda, Ukrainian World Coordinating Council, Ukrainian Supreme Liberation Council, Ukrainian Congress Committee of America etc CIA, because they are.
No.550726
Reuse this OP
No.550727
>>550718>Those parties denounce a country boxed into a corner as an aggressor.No they don't. In fact the only time the statement mentions aggression is in relation to NATO.
>I bet you also fucked up enough to think that DPRK's war against USA's puppet regime wasn't justified.You'd be wrong then.
No.550728
>>550725I never said they weren't.
No.550729
>>550722>im slightly with russian only for ending the donbass war, it's been going for 7 years now and I think they deserve some peace in their time.Overall the violence escalated insanely, conflict was nearly frozen since Minsk, was it worth it?
No.550730
>>550717>US cant do anything close to thatYES, THEY, CAN.
It's China that can't build a ton of stuff that the US can. The only reason why the US builds things in China is lax environmental regulation and labor protections. That's it. And the US has far and away greater construction capacity than China. It would not take long at all to build "city sized factories" here in the US.
No.550731
>>550730>It would not take long at all to build "city sized factories" here in the USyou are both clueless and delusional
No.550732
>>550730>labor protectionsAren't unions in charge of labor protections?
No.550733
>>550664>Every product in the first world is from a Anglo corpDelusional, seek help or a treatment with 9g of lead.
No.550734
make a new thread someone
No.550735
>>550731No, it's you that thinks that building factories is beyond the largest economy on earth.
>>550732Regardless, labor costs more in the 1st world than it does in China.
No.550738
>>550737also check those filename digits
No.550739
>>550729it was not worth it and this war should never happen and yet here we are. I just hope this conflict end sooner rather than none
No.550741
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No.550742
>>550733It's a generalization dumb dumb. And it's true, I can't even think of a major Chinese brand. But the average person could think of several Japanese and European brands, that because those two have real manufacturing bases and aren't just wards to another power.
No.550743
>>550700>How do you feel that your brothers in the global south think that you're an idiot for supporting the peopleOh, the Ukrainians did that?
The Ukrainians were more scared of Russia than they were NATO. That doesn't make NATO good, but
given what Russia is doing right now it at least makes Ukraine's position understandable. They aren't in a position to hold NATO morally accountable when Russia is an eminent threat. From where I'm sitting Russia and NATO are both bad, but if I was a Ukrainian I would probably feel differently.
No.550744
>>550570>>550566 based nazbol alternative history
No.550746
>>550743>The Ukrainians were more scared of Russia than they were NATO. maybe the gov, after all they were prompt up to accept Nato.
No.550747
>>550742Fuck off you shill, nobody is fooled. Posted from a xiaomi phone while drinking a beer from my haier fridge sitting in front of a lenovo laptop.
No.550748
>>550736 i thought Pistoletov was a pornstar
No.550750
>>550708Fuck Russia, Fuck Ukraine, Fuck Azov, Fuck NATO
No.550751
>>550570 oh no shaytan can time travel
No.550752
>>550603>If China could build world competitive commodities without the US they would be doing it already.Huawei Phones are technologically competitive with Samsung and Apple phones. Massive quantities of low quality crap is manufactured in China but that's not all they do, they also do very high end stuff as well.
>>550717>And read why Apple took their manufacturing to China>They said nmthey had a serious problem with a piece of the phone and needed to make an adjustment. In the same day the factory managing Apple products took it down the road to another factory the size of a small city and re-tooled the widget they needed and were mass producing it by end of day >US cant do anything close to thatThe US could achieve such industrial integration as well, not right away but over some time that would be possible. I think this is more a problem of attitude than ability. The US is not willing to look at China as a place that can innovate or people you can learn from. There is a burned in opinion that Chinese people are bugmen whose only successes are derived from copying American greatness and that's that. It's the people that make knockoffs and nothing else.
No.550754
>>549874Blue: Countries supporting Ukraine
Yellow: not offiicially supporting either side but has condemned the invasion somewhat
Orange: supporting Russia
Russiabros, it seems most of the world is against you. Why is this?
No.550755
This is not a football match where you support one team or the other without nuance.
A certain action of Russia was not supported, that doesn't mean all of these countries support Ukraine.
No.550756
>>550754They probably could have done better if they paused in Donbass and run a propaganda campaign while goading Ukraine to force them to continue
No.550757
>>550754>Most of the world sides against RussiaIn this map the majority of the world population is in areas that are red yellow or grey, so even your own map contradicts your statement.
Your map is also wrong, because people in countries like Brazil and India side more with Russia.
Most people in the blue countries are being misinformed by a propaganda blitz, people don't support arming Ukrainian neonazis and they don't supports attempts of aggressive military encirclement. No body is expressing consent for the things that the US is actually doing, and they are expressing opposition to a fictional version of Russia that only exists in this insane propaganda parallel universe.
The question you have to ask your self is how far can you go with separating the narrative from material reality, until this shit backfires against you.
The US is already talking about sanctioning India for not towing the line hard enough. If you look at the rate, the US is kicking countries out of the global financial system that they control, how long will it take until it's not a global system anymore because the US is the only one left that's in it.
No.550758
>>550680And kekraine will be free and independent if they win this war, are they?
No.550759
>>550757Most of the world is in yellow and yellow isnt exactly pro-russian here
No.550760
>>550758>And kekraine will be free and independent if they win this war, are they?Russia is most likely going to win. They will probably absorb the Russian speaking regions into the Russian Federation and make a neutral Ukraine out of the rest of the Country. That new country will be more independent and free than before, but they will still be a small country stuck in between big blocks, and they will get locked into geopolitical non-alignment politics.
>>550759kek, here comes the back paddling
your first post : who against Russia
your second post : who for Russia
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