/lgbt/ - LGBT

kink is such a lame word

>>3028
the attire is more sex than sex itself, just like how credentials are more important than knowledge

>>3031
retarded arguments that would only convince a fellow philosopher dipshit

>>3032
you made a post just to tell me you are too afraid to engage? defeated by a one liner…

>>3033
>too afraid to engage
not everyone is a college student with endless free time

>>3027
yeah whatever dude, do you know what happens to people like me? we don't disappear. YOU kicked us out because YOU couldn't put away the weird shit. YOU couldn't restrain yourself to not violate people's basic rights to not see freaky ass shit. Do you know what happens to people like that? Do you know what happens to wanton aggressors who take nothing but pride in their endless gorge for more? Do you? You speak amongst a strata of people who claim to do. Perhaps ask them.

>>3035
you're a little reactionary

>>3035
You become reactionary shits we all know this

>>3035
lol is the the "furry anon" retard

>no YOURE the reactionary
boards aren't big enough to make the points needed, to the streets lol

>>2949
That's a lot of words for "no one wants to see that shit"
Trvke though

>There were no BDSM people at Stonewall.
There were no cops at Stonewall?!?

>>3043
thank you
honsetly im a massive hypocrite and im an extremely freaky piece of shit
>t. op

>>3035
>tiktok respectability politics
You'll figure out that you'll never be "respected" by fascists for putting kink or trans or theians or whatever else under the bus after you graduate highschool.

Nobody IRL even cares that much about this shit and if they do chances are they hate all queers the same it's all desperately trying to make yourself seem like Not A Weirdo

>>3055
I don't know how of much this reflects reality, but when the media reports about pride, they always put people who look like they're about to start an orgy front and center. Essentially being free propaganda for them, footage like that strongly characterizes anything deviating from the norm as a kind of dionysian excess. In some sense trying to look respectable is always a losing battle for a group being actively demonized, yet the children at pride thing is a real concern and why unnecessarily give them ammunition? I would never go to a pride parade, not only because i'm an antisocial channoid and being "proud" sounds like the most reddit thing to me, but because even as an adult fetish wear still makes my stomach turn.

>>3054
Unsurprising, retarded crypto-fascist is unable to understand that not everything is done to appease him.

I want kink gone because it makes me personally uncomfortable.
Ultimately that means no more outright play scenes in public where there clearly is an atmosphere of "lewd references at most, please". I don't give a fuck if you wear a collar, having your partner pull you on a leash is pushing it.

Are we clear now?

>>3056
everything makes more sense when you see them as white liberals with fascist undertones. "Listen to me and do everything as I say because I was dictated to do it by my past."

>>2933
>>2949
>>3026
>>3035
I really am completely surprised that some ᴉuᴉlossnW-like American fascist never took power here like most Americans ideal society it that and they speak like insane fascist freaks for any imagined slight and they end up talking like this.

>>3060
>how fucking dare you ask me to respect your boundaries like an adult, you fucking fascist
fascismo thinking, fitting you see the name upside down

>>3061
?

>>3061
>boundaries
god you are so lib brained, you will be raped

I've got a very frank question to the thread and Anons here.
How do you explain LGBT rights progressing as they have in the last few decades? Admittedly I'm quite ignorant to this, but it seems to me it progressed through a combination of LGBT people being that much of a nuisance to powers-that-be, and increased social acceptance among cishet people. Stick-and-carrot in a way.
Put it this way I don't see kink doing much for either approach, it's not really annoying anyone with actual influence in any significant capacity, nor is it making us seem any better in the eyes of most people, or most gay or trans people for that matter.

>>3068
Why would you need to annoy powers-that-be? You don't have to gain anything (like marriage/decriminalization), you can already do everything you want except uh… Have sex in public or parade your naked slave or something?

>>3070
what the fuck does this post mean

>>3072
That you don't need to approach kink in either of the ways you said because legally you can do what you already do and (I didn't say this in my post) you are socially accepted (lots of BDSM porn on mainstream websites (and thus young people internalising sadomasochistic paraphilias) , 50 shadows of grey, booktok etc.)

I don't think people should be attacked in the street for the articles of clothes they wear.

>>3080
ik you'll deny the validity of this comparison instead of making a solid reason why, but what if they're wearing this?

>>3081
its just a uniform kink

>>3081
I unironically don't care and nazis are too cowardly and would rather pull dogwhistlers than wear an actual nazi uniform anyway.

>>3081
What if their partner is a Jew that has both a uniform and a masochism kink?

>>3059
>pointing out my internalized fascist tendancies makes YOU le cyrpto fascist.
>I want kink gone because it makes me personally uncomfortable.
Then you are the problem. You are the reactionary that is easily trained to disgust, cringe, morally abhor, etc… and wants those codified to keep such tendencies in an unattainable peace–rather than rid your mind of such spooks. You are a weapon of fascism, regardless of if you consider yourself a fascist personally. There will be no room for the NIMBY mindset in a revolution.

I can't afford to eat seven meals a week and have scarce access to air conditioning, If I saw a drone suit puppygirl on my commute that'd be rather amusing actually, it would improve a day that materially still hurts to persist in. My abhorrence is reserved solely for capitalism for putting me through this–and you, of course, for having a comfortable enough life to need to search for discomfort through bourgeoisie morality.

>>3068
I think in broad terms capitalism has hit a crisis especially in the United States and Britain the birth places of neo liberalism. The bourgeoise know their is growing discontent amongst the people. When people are discontent capitalisms safety blanket so to speak is reactionary shit; hating blacks, hating trans people, hating immigrants. Anything that gets people to not look at the imperialist wars or the cost of living or the floundering healthcare. Trans people represent a decent minority to attack due to their increased prominence recently. So a large amount of money was spent demonizing them. You can see that the people pushing us down are usually rich. In the UK transphobia is funded with the personal wealth of a billionaire author, in the US one of the top advisors to the president and owner of Twitter disowned his daughter because he had genetically engineered her to be male (no I'm not making this up). The NY times who peddled this nonsense is owned by a billionaire family
Sadly trans people are not often talked to by comrades so very few people understand the extent of the situation. I feel if more communists talked about this openly it would help bring class consciousness to most trans people they talk. Very few trans people are bourgeoisie (that is owning capital)
There are some people who would also post that trans people represent a threat to the structures of patriarchy and the family that help reinforce capitalism. I can see it but I feel focusing on the ways this is manufactured by the elite is better

>>3085
Those conditions sound rough comrade. The bit about a drone puppy girl was pretty enjoyable for me so I decided to generate some ai slop of the idea

>>3085
>You are the reactionary that is easily trained to disgust, cringe, morally abhor
Sure, anglo puritan morals pervade anything and make the mere mention of sex seem unreasonably vulgar, yet a group dressed like they're ready to engage in their fetish isn't a mere reference, neither a symbol, but like a window into one part of the act. I don't fundamentally have a problem with that either, but consider the context of these events, this isn't a case of "i went to an event full of people i didn't like". If pride fashions itself to ideologically align with the majority of lgbts (which it doesn't in any case), it shouldn't give as much visibility to something that might make others uncomfortable and is used by the media to dismiss any threat to the family unit as swinging culture or something.

>>3085
Understand firstly that I am too young to remember the proscriptions of Rome. I do not care for your preconceptions of what is and is not Fascism. At this point, understand firstly, that I do not have any reason to care about what you say unless it is an outright appeal to logic. BDSM makes me uncomfortable, I wish to not see it in public. Murder makes people uncomfortable, they wish not to see it in public and their wishes are granted. Nudity makes people uncomfortable, they wish to not see it in public and their wishes are granted. This extends to simulations of sexualized acts that furthermore represent a normalization of abusive heterosexual relationship dynamics. This is a basic request and it will be met.

Give me one good reason not to take the first chance I get.

If OP was around in the Victorian era:

>>Why should I be exposed to bare ankles in public when I did not consent to do so? They make me uncomfortable, I wish to not see them.

this is the end goal of "anti kink" puritans and christofascists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoptsy

this is who you are arguing with.

>>3128
slippery slope is ok when a butthole licker does it

>>3134
Well what does that even mean? Just because Amerikkkan morals think something is bad doesn't mean it is good. Commerical, cross-generational (wtf?) and in public sex are just objectively bad.

>>3169
fascists are a subcategory of BPD where they split. Rainbow fascists think "good" is when butthole licked, when money given for sex, when sex in public, basically if christian daddy screams "NOOO"! it's like a chud trying to offend his parents.

>>3169
>Well what does that even mean?
you need dialectical thinking
<a way of thinking that emphasizes the interconnectedness of opposing ideas and encourages the synthesis of seemingly contradictory concepts. It involves recognizing that multiple perspectives can be true simultaneously and that understanding these perspectives, even if they seem at odds, leads to a more comprehensive understanding. This approach moves away from "either/or" thinking and embraces a "both/and" perspective.
>public sex are just objectively bad
your entire planet has been fenced off and traded on Wall Street. The public commons have been privatized by neoliberal capitalism

>>3172
>THE PUBLIC GOOD IS WHEN I'M ALLOWED TO TREAT THE WORLD AS MY BEDROOM
I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE DEATH TO THESE PEOPLE

>>3172
>dialectical thinking
kill yourself pseud

>>3173
kill yourself hysteric

Bruh this thread. Le fagari a le tiny minority with their little israel exclusionary communities. Most people will never witness le shid you are complaining about.

>>3172
Anon, immanent critique is load bearing to the dialectical process, you can't just skip it.

>>3169
>objectively bad
Randian schizobabble. Things exist regardless if an observer deems it true that it exists. Physics, time and the properties of objects are not subject to psychic democracy of observers. You can only ever approximate the truth by experimentation. Morals are spooks.

>>3186
The best part about people like these is that they say morality is a spook without realizing they're arguing with someone whose basically asking "why shouldn't I kill you where you stand". You're basically just saying "don't miss lol", and as far as I'm aware, there's a 99% chance you aren't enough of an outright badass to pull that shit and walk away from it. How about you consider thinking more and repeating less?

>>3186
What? I don't give a shit if morals are objective or not, it was a turn of phrase. How about I use the word ethical instead? I don't really understand the difference between the two other than semantics. Public sex, commercial sex and cross-generational sex are unethical.

Anyway morals are real. I fucking hate how people pretend they aren't, Marx laughed at morals relating to political economy not whether or not public sex should be allowed. It just means what's ok in society, its not always right but that is what morals are and they do exist because society upholds them.