>kink is an integral part of pride! we were at stonewall!
where? seriously, where are they?
<no u dont get it the kinksters were just outside of the frame
>>2934show us the kinksters at stonewall
show us the proof that bdsm actually has a place amongst fags as a fag thing and not a white cishet grift
>>2949>violation of consentlove hysterics using this wordplay to make their issues seem more important than they really are
>>2966>stop raping my eyesat least this retard plays it straight!
>>2967Lmfao, look if you think someone is fucking around take a look around. You're now a categorical rapist, try to rape someone's eyes again and you won't have none yourself.
>>2969so weird how literally none of those pictures have anything freaky going on, how i can see only a handful of handkerchiefs and most worn in regular stylings, etc.
>>2977I mean if we agree wit the framework of consent and you are an exhibitionist (=get turned on by people watching you, or being near you) you are envolving other people in your sexual act which may not have involved.
Sending porn to a group server may not have a sexual intent.
Maybe this is related with how pretty much everyone agrees that children shouldn't watch porn (maybe because they can't consent to sexual acts)
>>2982Again consent is between individuals and not the public sqaure. Seeing someone's presence in public of your consent you reactionary fuck
>>2996Hearing a man flirting with a woman is rape now
>>2997I don't know if I agree with what I am saying mainly because I am putting a lot of emphasis on consent (which is not enough to determine if something is "good" or "bad" like liberals want to pretend) and what we are discussing will not affect me in real life.
But didn't you say that "Consent is about sexual acts between people", how can you reconcile that with exhibitionism being a sexual act?
>>2940>>2941Bruh, why do you guys keep obsessing over zoomers?
Alot of this faux nostalgia crap is usually older people tbw
>>2997"Consent" is now just a shibboleth used against "ugly bastards".
>>2976It's amazing that we live in a time that preaches "diversity" and "appreciation of minorities".
Yet, anyone who goes slightest outside of plain vanilla sex are now pathologised as "groomers".
>>3002>male dom>female subLiterally the two most common and safest roles you could take in BDSM, admittedly male subs get shat on with good reason, imo. So much so it's almost yawn-worthy to admit to being so.
Sure you might see someone get accused of being a creep for being into BDSM, but most of the cases are either because they're an ugly fuck (pretty privilege) or they really are a creep.
>>2999some of the most abusive people ive ever met were people who prided themselves on only having "morally good fetishes" or "consuming good media" or w/e
moralizing random shit in this way is just giving abusers a new extremely low effort manipulation tactic because then you can pretend to be a Good Person(tm) easily
>>3007>theres more to abuse than meaningless aesthetic signifiers<erm youre doing a heccin fallacy (?)illiterate fucking retard lol
>"is this your first day on the internet
>>3013I don't give a shit about if you do kink, or what you wear if its a choker or whatever. Even one of those dog masks, that isn't what I'm complaining about. I just don't want to see any sort of sex in public. None of it. It's disgusting, it makes me feel uncomfortable and it makes places like pride unsuitable for children. Public sex completely changes the dynamics of the place it is happening. It has extremely deep social consequences on how a place feels.
Your petplay / degradation kink is not your identity. You don't need to ruin the park for everyone else to get off.
>>3014>file is deleted by modsi wonder why hmmm
>>3023is kink like, not sex to you? because without the sexually charged actions that involve kink gear, there would be no "kink" to describe "kink gear"; you would just look like a fucking idiot. This is a retarded attempt to split hairs so thin that you'd infer the innocuous act of having a goddamn handkerchief could be the very same as two men roleplaying a dude and an animal with a cultural context of exclusive sexual connotation given to such roleplay on a fucking categorical level. And no, comparing it to children playing is NOT going to fucking help your case.
>>2949That's a lot of words for "no one wants to see that shit"
Trvke though
>>3043thank you
honsetly im a massive hypocrite and im an extremely freaky piece of shit
>t. op >>3054Unsurprising, retarded crypto-fascist is unable to understand that not everything is done to appease him.
I want kink gone because it makes me personally uncomfortable.Ultimately that means no more outright play scenes in public where there clearly is an atmosphere of "lewd references at most, please". I don't give a fuck if you wear a collar, having your partner pull you on a leash is pushing it.
Are we clear now?
>>3056everything makes more sense when you see them as white liberals with fascist undertones. "Listen to me and do everything as I say because I was dictated to do it by my past."
>>3059>pointing out my internalized fascist tendancies makes YOU le cyrpto fascist.>I want kink gone because it makes me personally uncomfortable.Then you are the problem. You are the reactionary that is easily trained to disgust, cringe, morally abhor, etc… and wants those codified to keep such tendencies in an unattainable peace–rather than rid your mind of such spooks.
You are a weapon of fascism, regardless of if you consider yourself a fascist personally. There will be no room for the NIMBY mindset in a revolution.
I can't afford to eat seven meals a week and have scarce access to air conditioning, If I saw a drone suit puppygirl on my commute that'd be rather amusing actually, it would improve a day that materially still hurts to persist in. My abhorrence is reserved solely for capitalism for putting me through this–and you, of course, for having a comfortable enough life to need to search for discomfort through bourgeoisie morality.
>>3068I think in broad terms capitalism has hit a crisis especially in the United States and Britain the birth places of neo liberalism. The bourgeoise know their is growing discontent amongst the people. When people are discontent capitalisms safety blanket so to speak is reactionary shit; hating blacks, hating trans people, hating immigrants. Anything that gets people to not look at the imperialist wars or the cost of living or the floundering healthcare. Trans people represent a decent minority to attack due to their increased prominence recently. So a large amount of money was spent demonizing them. You can see that the people pushing us down are usually rich. In the UK transphobia is funded with the personal wealth of a billionaire author, in the US one of the top advisors to the president and owner of Twitter disowned his daughter because he had genetically engineered her to be male (no I'm not making this up). The NY times who peddled this nonsense is owned by a billionaire family
Sadly trans people are not often talked to by comrades so very few people understand the extent of the situation. I feel if more communists talked about this openly it would help bring class consciousness to most trans people they talk. Very few trans people are bourgeoisie (that is owning capital)
There are some people who would also post that trans people represent a threat to the structures of patriarchy and the family that help reinforce capitalism. I can see it but I feel focusing on the ways this is manufactured by the elite is better
>>3085Understand firstly that I am too young to remember the proscriptions of Rome. I do not care for your preconceptions of what is and is not Fascism. At this point, understand firstly, that I do not have any reason to care about what you say unless it is an outright appeal to logic. BDSM makes me uncomfortable, I wish to not see it in public. Murder makes people uncomfortable, they wish not to see it in public and their wishes are granted. Nudity makes people uncomfortable, they wish to not see it in public and their wishes are granted. This extends to simulations of sexualized acts that furthermore represent a normalization of abusive heterosexual relationship dynamics. This is a basic request and it will be met.
Give me one good reason not to take the first chance I get.
this is the end goal of "anti kink" puritans and christofascists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoptsythis is who you are arguing with.
<As Gayle Rubin theorized of the “charmed circle” of sexuality, American culture has long approved certain enactments of erotic identity and desire:
>(heterosexual,
>married,
>monogamous,
>procreative,
>non-commercial,
>in pairs,
>in a relationship,
>same generation,
>in private,
>no pornography,
>bodies only,
>vanilla)
<while denigrating others:
>(homosexual,
>unmarried,
>promiscuous,
>non-procreative,
>commercial,
>alone or in groups,
>casual,
>cross-generational,
>in public,
>pornography,
>with manufactured objects,
>sadomasochistic)
>>3169>Well what does that even mean? you need dialectical thinking
<a way of thinking that emphasizes the interconnectedness of opposing ideas and encourages the synthesis of seemingly contradictory concepts. It involves recognizing that multiple perspectives can be true simultaneously and that understanding these perspectives, even if they seem at odds, leads to a more comprehensive understanding. This approach moves away from "either/or" thinking and embraces a "both/and" perspective.>public sex are just objectively badyour entire planet has been fenced off and traded on Wall Street. The public commons have been privatized by neoliberal capitalism
>>3172>dialectical thinkingkill yourself pseud
>>3173kill yourself hysteric
>>3186What? I don't give a shit if morals are objective or not, it was a turn of phrase. How about I use the word ethical instead? I don't really understand the difference between the two other than semantics. Public sex, commercial sex and cross-generational sex are unethical.
Anyway morals are real. I fucking hate how people pretend they aren't, Marx laughed at morals relating to political economy not whether or not public sex should be allowed. It just means what's ok in society, its not always right but that is what morals are and they do exist because society upholds them.
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