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Not reporting is bourgeois


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>kink is an integral part of pride! we were at stonewall!
where? seriously, where are they?
<no u dont get it the kinksters were just outside of the frame

this is VERY americentric and i will not stand for it.

>>2934
show us the kinksters at stonewall
show us the proof that bdsm actually has a place amongst fags as a fag thing and not a white cishet grift

Even if degens were at stonewall pride can be redefined without their misogyny/selfesteem/abuse-induced paraphilias

LMAO are zoomers seriously going to pretend around the time of stonewall there was some queer united front

>>2933
>>2940
I do love it so much when like 15 year olds online are like "Oh, all this queer infighting! What happened to those good old Stonewall days I remember? Ah, good times, I remember them well. Marsha P Johnson would surely never do discourse, and she'd be my mutual as well!", like be for fucking real.

>blatant strawman
obviously not what op is talking about
op is talking about the bdsm community, primarily a bunch of white guys, claiming significant kinship with the lgbtq community and right to be present at pride especially

>>2942
"the lgbtq community" as a concept is bullshit already actually

>>2943
first based post in da thread 🍾🍾🍾

I hate how they bring that BDSM flag around with them. It's not something I want to be associated with. Personally I am modest though I don't mind others not being so. What I do mind is when they bring explicit things into public since it is a violation of consent. I don't see why they need to. Kink is not something you need to broadcast to everyone around you because not everyone is comfortable with it. I just don't get it, keep your sex toys indoors. Cis people have this issue as well btw, even ones who don't openly identify as being kinky. Kink is like being cat called but its acceptable in the queer community because it feels nobody can separate their sexual interests from their social presentation.

Well anyway I never go to pride other than to stand in the way and protest it because it has the police and loads of companies complicit in the genocide in Palestine in it.

>>2949
>seeing some random clad in leather is a "violation of consent"
words used to mean things

>>2949
>>2951
i can demonstrate a real violation of consent

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>>2949
>>>>>>>>>>

what the actual fuck is with the moralism itt, like this is just a bunch of horseshit

i just don't consent to your exhibitionism and want you to stop raping my eyes. this is such an easy thing to do, literally just represent your kink with subtly and class, a leather jacket, a choker or even outright dog collar here and there

>>2949
>violation of consent
love hysterics using this wordplay to make their issues seem more important than they really are

>>2966
>stop raping my eyes
at least this retard plays it straight!

from what little i know of sf queer culture in the 70s, it was pretty kinky
the hanky codes and all that
fags are perverts, shrug

>>2967
Lmfao, look if you think someone is fucking around take a look around. You're now a categorical rapist, try to rape someone's eyes again and you won't have none yourself.

>>2969
so weird how literally none of those pictures have anything freaky going on, how i can see only a handful of handkerchiefs and most worn in regular stylings, etc.

>>2972
>categorical rapist
aka not a rapist

>>2972
>>2972
>Lmfao, look if you think someone is fucking around take a look around. You're now a categorical rapist, try to rape someone's eyes again and you won't have none yourself.
incomprehensible sentence, i will rape your ass

>>2972
Posting porn you don't like to the group server is now rape apparently

>>2975
people cant just call someone else a weirdo and move on, they now have to turn it into some important moral crusade

>>2975
Consent is about sexual acts between people. It doesn't apply to people's clothing. You can't say you don't consent to seeing a woman in a dress or a black guy.

>>2976
It's so annoying. I don't care if a vanilla calls me a weirdo or ignores, but doing this moral crusade stuff is cringe inducing

>>2977
I mean if we agree wit the framework of consent and you are an exhibitionist (=get turned on by people watching you, or being near you) you are envolving other people in your sexual act which may not have involved.
Sending porn to a group server may not have a sexual intent.

Maybe this is related with how pretty much everyone agrees that children shouldn't watch porn (maybe because they can't consent to sexual acts)

>>2982
>framework of consent

>>2982
consent is a social construct

>>2935
😕 You might as well just call kink bourgeois decadence and drop the cover.

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>>2972
>so weird how literally none of those pictures have anything freaky going on, how i can see only a handful of handkerchiefs and most worn in regular stylings, etc.
bruh do u know what hanky code is

>>2982
Again consent is between individuals and not the public sqaure. Seeing someone's presence in public of your consent you reactionary fuck
>>2996
Hearing a man flirting with a woman is rape now

>>2997
I don't know if I agree with what I am saying mainly because I am putting a lot of emphasis on consent (which is not enough to determine if something is "good" or "bad" like liberals want to pretend) and what we are discussing will not affect me in real life.
But didn't you say that "Consent is about sexual acts between people", how can you reconcile that with exhibitionism being a sexual act?

>>2940
>>2941
Bruh, why do you guys keep obsessing over zoomers?
Alot of this faux nostalgia crap is usually older people tbw

>>2997
"Consent" is now just a shibboleth used against "ugly bastards".

>>2976
It's amazing that we live in a time that preaches "diversity" and "appreciation of minorities".
Yet, anyone who goes slightest outside of plain vanilla sex are now pathologised as "groomers".

>>2999
>Yet, anyone who goes slightest outside of plain vanilla sex are now pathologised as "groomers".
This is absolutely false, BDSM and related paraphilias are super accepted and mainstream. It has influence in music, drawings, porn, psychology ("kink-positive therapist"!!! yay <3)… Don't act as if you will get beaten up for engaging in sadomasochism

>>3001
>Don't act as if you will get beaten up for engaging in sadomasochism
if youre a male dom or female sub you will

>>3002
>male dom
>female sub
Literally the two most common and safest roles you could take in BDSM, admittedly male subs get shat on with good reason, imo. So much so it's almost yawn-worthy to admit to being so.
Sure you might see someone get accused of being a creep for being into BDSM, but most of the cases are either because they're an ugly fuck (pretty privilege) or they really are a creep.

>>3003
so you were wrong

>>2999
some of the most abusive people ive ever met were people who prided themselves on only having "morally good fetishes" or "consuming good media" or w/e

moralizing random shit in this way is just giving abusers a new extremely low effort manipulation tactic because then you can pretend to be a Good Person(tm) easily

>>3006
>personal anecdote about "moralizers"
>"moralizing random shit in this way is just giving abusers a new extremely low effort manipulation tactic because then you can pretend to be a Good Person(tm) easily"
idk it seems like youre the one trying to say "im a good person!"

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>>3007
>theres more to abuse than meaningless aesthetic signifiers
<erm youre doing a heccin fallacy (?)
illiterate fucking retard lol

>"

is this your first day on the internet

>>3008
>complete word salad, ultimately meant to defend an anecdote saying "x people are shitty people"
<fails to understand that the attempt to associate the morals of people with beliefs in if kink is part of the LGBT community is in it of itself an example of being a shitty person

>>2998
Seeing someone in a collar is not meaningfully engaging in a sexual act with that person. Neither is seeing a woman's chest. Are you having sex by looking at this painting. Is seeing this unprompted in a museum a violation of your consent you little reactionary

>>3010
Like you're just doing socially reactionary shit. It does not meaningful harm you to see someone walking around with a collar on.
https://www.whitesupremacyculture.info/comfort--fear-of-conflict.html
> Inb4 Tumblr

>>3011
Like make no mistake reactionaries insist the mear act of seeing a trans woman is violating their consent because their transphobia makes them uncomfortable around trans women. They do this shit all the time.

>>3012
This is such a bizarre notion to me. This reactionary usage of consent in a supposedly Marxist space. The reason consent is emphasized in society is over scenarios where a victim is actually debilitatingly harmed by the violation. In this scenario the harm is simply undone by looking in a different direction, minding your own business. You can't "mind your own business" your way out of a man pinning you to a brick wall and groping you. You can't just look away from being raped.
> Pov I'm violating OPs "consent"


>>3013
I don't give a shit about if you do kink, or what you wear if its a choker or whatever. Even one of those dog masks, that isn't what I'm complaining about. I just don't want to see any sort of sex in public. None of it. It's disgusting, it makes me feel uncomfortable and it makes places like pride unsuitable for children. Public sex completely changes the dynamics of the place it is happening. It has extremely deep social consequences on how a place feels.

Your petplay / degradation kink is not your identity. You don't need to ruin the park for everyone else to get off.

>>3010
I was thinking about public sex, not light things like that

>>3016
when are people having sex in public?

>>2949
whatever faggot

What is this premise? They weren't in mursuits and leather == not present? Go ask the person you unsolicitedly challenged to debate for some literature instead of coming here to be hugboxed in illiterate skepticism and moon landing type arguments.

>>3016
That fisting video in the trans girl porn thread wasn't a pride parade, that was a sex worker convention (don't remember the name) where the area was rented and fenced off so it wasn't actually in public, only seen by peers.


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