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Figured I made a thread to share our romantic experiences – or lack of thereof, – opinions, wishes and advice. That is part of the whole LGBT experience besides the sex and gender.

I reached mid 20s with barely any experience, autism made sure of that. Kissed a drunk lesbian once, I don't even think I looked that cute for a guy in his 20s, so I was honored more than anything. Broke up a friendship with a trans girl after some hasty choices, but she was crazy anyways. Now focusing on friends, making and deepening them.

Wish I had a man I understood and was understood by, someone light-hearted and whimsical to have fun with on the short time I have here on Earth. Femboy-ish ig, not masculine, but takes care of himself, with a touch of femininity to him. Impartial on sex, willing to do it, might be fun even.

One thing I like is the idea of relations as temporary, serial monogamy if you will. I'm all for loyalty while in a relation, but that doesn't necessarily mean it must be forever and ever. People change, why shouldn't their relations? Admittedly I do see the romance in a lifelong relation, sticking with someone and changing together with them. Besides looking for a new partner every x amount of years sounds exhausting.

I have never loved or been loved, and at this point its more likely to stay that way than not.

I had a fling with a girl and got ghosted we did all the intimate stuff but made me realise women objectify men as much as men objectify them albeit it's less based on looks because I'm not a chad by any means but I was always told it's the woman who wants the relationship but it's the man who just wants the sex, all the romantic stuff just seems like a facade so they don't look like whores and filter toxic gooners, it seems woman want your body and soul even if temporary, not just clinical sex which is the ideal of the male.

I'm dating a beautiful puppy girl. Everyday I feel lucky to get to know her. I feel so lucky she wants me to move in with her. I feel so lucky I can make her feel good so well. I hadn't had much sex before her and had never topped. Yet it all went well
I worry sometimes she's not affectionate but I think she just does it in a different way.

>>3156
My relationships beside her were all kinda sad
- Guy who never did anything with his wife
- another trans woman who wanted me to be a live in maid and screamed at me for not knowing immigration stuff. Left me homeless
- trans girl who didn't know it yet. Her finding out kinda unstablized the feeling of security I really wanted from her. It wasn't that she was wrong to it's just she started questioning the things about her that made me feel safe with her.
Maybe I was a shitty person to all of them, don't know

I wish being a transhumanist wasn't so fucked

I'm not very good at getting to know people in general. Which I really need to work on, because TBH I've derped out in some pretty spectacular ways.

>>3160
I have some lack of empathy for others. IDK how to dissect it further. Maybe I need a therapist, or maybe I need a change to my moral outlook.

>>3162
It's because only low autism score people value sex and relationships highly, they breed more and sooner in common with the beasts, usually higher autism score are more interested in objectivity such as status, politics or thought concepts and other people are seen as vessels to engage in dialectics

>>3163
>other people are seen as vessels to engage in dialectics
i get so incredibly frustrated if a person is unable to be this.

>>3144
>want your body and soul even if temporary
I've heard relations between older women and younger boys is something to the tune of the boys acting like puppies mad for them or risk being abandoned. Don't know if that's what your experience was like, I'm curious really.

>>3157
I'm happy you were that lucky Anon. You sound like you're loving your relation I hope it continues and both you and your puppygirl be happy in it. If you don't mind me asking what's being a transhumanist have to do with your romantic relations?

>>3139
>>3139
I'm almost 30 and never had a boyfriend and had very little sexual encountera

The fact I'm an autist who never worked on his life does not help

>>3144
Are you bi?

>>3203
Same but I'm 32 and joined the military.

I've been talking to someone on tinder but idk I'm worried she's TOO into me.

>>3206
Why join the military?

>>3211
Sapphic?


>>3215
Because I was/am a fuck-up and had zero prospects. Dad died a couple years ago so it really made me think about my mortality.
Obviously it was an immoral thing to do and could bite me in the ass but it was the best option I could think of beyond continuing to be a leech.

>>3226
The military won't help you at all. You are just contributing to the regime. Nobody wants to have sex with soldiers. I suggest you rethink your life choices or you will end up dying from an IED planted by the socialist resistance.

>>3228
I want to have sex with soldiers tho. He still shouldn't join the military.

>>3228
Respectfully, you come off as a NEET.

>>3228
Having sex with soldiers = BASED
Having sex with cops = CRINGE

love is so sweet. but im so looooonely

Had sex and didn't enjoy it but I pretended to. She is kind of overweight and boring. Planning to tank the relationship by showing her my unhinged communist fanfics / fiction I write and insisting she read them.

>>3282
>Planning to tank the relationship by showing her my unhinged communist fanfics / fiction I write and insisting she read them.
Why don't you just breakup normally?

>>3282
>unhinged communist fanfics / fiction
Can you share it here? I'm quite curious now.

>>3295
I posted it in the fanfiction thread (this is hatefiction though tbh)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/63403183/chapters/162445723

>>3303
was it you who recommended this series in my rape-porn thread?

>>3304
I didn't, it might have been another thing in the setting (I hate the setting btw)

>>3307
someone rec the setting then called me a paedo without elaborating and left, i read one book and found the setting incredibly boring, there was not even any sex in it.

>>3303
Fascinating to find hdg here

>>3139
How do you get over them? I still keep thinking of her. It wasn't meant to be. Yet it still hurts. I still can't move on. How many days do you have to be like this? How do you get over it quickest?

why do i develop infatuations with straight-ish transfems
what kind of sickness is it

>>3139
>Now focusing on friends, making and deepening them.
Good. This is the way.
>Wish I had a [person] I understood and was understood by
Everyone who has ever wanted a relationship basically wanted this. Not to minimize you, just so you know your experience is relatively universal and what you're feeling is very normal for better or for worse.

I dont know if im meant to experience love.
The idea of love sounds great to me, but in all of the few times anyone took romantic interest in me I just felt uncomfortable and wanted to be left alone.
Social interaction is just so stressful and draining for me, but espcially so if its romantic.
I feel so jealous seeing other people with boyfriends and enjoying having a relationship, I wish I could experience that same happiness but I just cant do it. Whats wrong with me?

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>>3751
I dunno, we want what we can't have? For me it's lesbians.
>>3753
>Whats wrong with me?
Judging from that little passage. Nothing major, we all have that or something similar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog%27s_dilemma for example.
In the specific case, maybe you just didn't like them back?

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>>3455
If there was some special technique it would be known.
It gets better with time, and that's just how it is.

>>3760
>In the specific case, maybe you just didn't like them back?
It wasnt just one case, its happened multiple times. I wouldnt say I didnt like any of them, I liked most of them as a person or as a friend but not in a romantic sense.
I dont think ive truly romanitcally liked anyone before. I definitley experience attraction to people, but never a romantic crush

i keep waking up needing you
its not realistic so im just hoping it stops one day

same here
except i hope you're alright and get back in touch every day

>>3768
So let me get this straight, you:
>like the idea of love
and
>feel jealous of others' relationships

but you also
>get drained rapidly by social interaction
and
>never liked anyone romantically

Maybe you enjoy thinking and fantasizing more about a romantic relation than actually being in one? Like some people might fantasize about fighting or being an explorer than actually going through the risks and hardship those would entail. No offense intended, you're far from the only person who (might) do this.

>>3814
OP here. It's better now, I don't think about her nearly as much. If I could go back and do it better, sure. But I didn't lose much special.
Mind I ask your story anon?

>>3455
Force yourself to have sex with someone else. I've been through this recently and it's as disgustingly simple as that. The body leads and the heart follows

>>3768
Romance as a special category of socializing is bullshit and worthless. The only quintessentially romantic thing is enmeshment and mutual idealization. These are harmful. Ask yourself if you enjoy/are relaxed in their presence, and if you have good sexual chemistry (literally chemistry, like u enjoy how they smell and taste and all that). If these are both yes, you've found a winner. They check the fundamental boxes. Everything else is negotiations.

I say negotiations because including someone in your life means re-arranging your life a little to make space for them.

Based on your situation there are certain considerations. There are essentially 4 positions. 1: you both have full lives, but you need someone to fuck. This relationship is mainly about sexual chemistry and basic trust. You don't need to love who they are as a person or match them in everything. Your lives intersect minimally, where necessary. You may grow to love them or share more in common with them over time but that isn't necessary. 2 and 3: one of you has a life and the other is kind of a loser. The one with a life gatekeeps and focuses on not losing their center (i.e. not losing what makes them valuable in the first place, which is their self-completeness), and the other one chases and attempts to demonstrate value while weaseling into the other's life more and more. Figure out which one you are and act accordingly. 4: you both have no life. This is perfect for Romance. Success in this configuration requires similar interests, experiences, personalities, etc. Maybe triggering each other's childhood wounds and broken sense of what love is. You are each other's soulmates, it is fated love, etc. You both have nothing else going on, so you can make each other your whole world.

If you're politically active that basically already puts you in the "has a life" category so you should look for either someone who minimally enters your life, or someone who totally worships you, spends money on you, makes you laugh, makes you orgasm, generally makes your life easier and more fun (while not gumming up the works and making you focus too much on them!), etc.

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I found myself in a relationship that started strong only for it to go straight to shit after 3 years. It started after we went a full year with no sex it was then that he revealed that he wasn't gay but asexual the entire time, now I had my suspicions since he didnt like any anal or oral but I let it slide since I was a virgin when we met and was naive, when the fighting stopped after that bombshell we broke up only for covid to hit a week later and for him to loose his job.
Now I don't work as I'm doctor diagnosed autistic and he said that I was never to look for work since he wanted to take care of me. This started an extremely fucked situation since now with my limited tismbux I had to help him until he found work and since the apartment was in my name so if he didn't have any money left he would be homeless (I can't cover his food expenses or phone bill) but even though I was seething with hate over being lied too I didn't want to betray my morals and just throw him into the capitalist death machine so I helped him and now he has a job he likes and we are friends and he takes care of me as we got over our differences since.
Now I'm still a socially retarded mess but stable in life, so in a few months time after that I ended up finding someone else but now it's long distance….but when he came up here to Canada all the way from the states to pound my small pale emo "these scars are proof I'm alive" snow bunny butt in the first time in my life while I wore a kitty maid outfit it was the best time in my life and even though I now only get sex once a year and only see him in person once a year I'm still happy and my ex turned friend enjoys the new dynamic since he can take care of me and himself money wise and he and I like our friendship more though he wants the three of us living together that I find a little weird. The distance sucks and I do get depressed because of it but I can't see myself ever being disloyal it's not in my blood I suppose.
I hope one day he does move up here. Relationships are chaotic…and I guess it's really never known where one can end up.

>>4049
Why would you get angry at him for being asexual though? Especially when he was willing to do sex acts with you. Seems like a weird thing to break up with someone about.

>>3812
i want you to groom me
i want you to make me your mess

my oneitis crush has problems and i cant trust her anymore

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>>5326
and yet, i still love her

>>4171
Yes king

>>4049
That's a wild turn of events but kinda sounds like it worked out in the end. Congrats on finding a top to come breed your bussy.

Still here, still 33, still no bf.
I'm my own worst enemy because I'm too scared to put myself out there.

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I think the girl I like just gave me the clap or gonorrhea but honestly I feel like it's my foult for going raw and not taking the doxypep I literally just bought to prevent this exact situation
anyway rn I only have some very balanitis so I'm mostly just sad I wont be able to have le sex n such

Bumping a gem

>>5331
Damn me from almost a year ago
Went on grindr and found a guy, he's very sweet
Unfortunately I'm gonna be leaving in a couple months because of work but I'm gonna treasure the time we have

>>8051
That's cute. Happy for you.
Do you have any more experience with LGBTQ apps/sites? Like which are good vs not?

op really tried to make it a healthier thread than the sex and relationships one on siberia and it still ended up just being a queer incel thread

>>8053
Oh it's still nowhere near at /siberia/ level…
Or you simply didn't expect single people to make up the majority of posts in threads like these by rule? I'd say it's just a statistical likelihood. Could be a women only or lesbian only one and it would probably still be the case.

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People keep thinking that me and my roommate are gay even though we are not! Just because we sleep in the same room together doesn’t mean we are gay, if we were then we would sleep in the same bed like Ren and Stimpy but we don’t! We sleep in two twin sized beds that are next to each other.

>>8052
No lol. I used grindr because it was popular. Someone (I think it was the gaygen here) told me to use grindrplus which bypasses the microtransaction bullshit. Vanilla grindr is terrible.

>>8051
Can't you make it work out as a LDR? Maybe with VR?
>>8062
>Someone (I think it was the gaygen here) told me to use grindrplus
I am glad you found it useful. The other day I installed in waydroid but now they ask for phone verification so fuck it
>>8059
I wish I had a closeted roommate relationship :(

>>8064
It’s not always what it is cracked up to be

>>8051
>Damn me from almost a year ago
It has been 4 months

Is it normal to be sad about a girl I was normal young transbian friends with if she said she was gonna come to my birthday party and then just kind of didn't show up and I haven't heard from her at all since then? She was gonna come by with her girlfriend and her girlfriend's wife because I'm also pretty good friends with them, but only the two of them showed up. It's been like four days and I'm sad, yesterday I sent a "hey how're you doing" text and she hasn't responded, am I gonna die? Is there something deeply wrong with me? Am I internally freaking out a little over absolutely nothing?

>>3139
>That is part of the whole LGBT experience besides the sex and gender.
could've fooled me haha :'^)

>>8088
It is normal in general to be sad when a friend ditches and ghosts you, yes.
I had a friend I hung out with regularly for a year who just started ghosting me out of the blue. No arguments or anything, he just stopped responding to me and hasn't reached out at all. It's fucked me up, I keep telling myself to stop thinking about it but it doesn't work. These kinds of things just happen unfortunately. And I have done it to others a couple times, but in my case I was depressed and didn't want to see anyone (I don't think that's the case with my friend, I think he just found other people he likes more).

>>8088
>>8092
Anyways, what I'm saying is that sometimes people just don't want to see you anymore and you have to get over it. Easier said than done obviously. You just have to find other people and hope they're less shitty. I have other friends and a BF thankfully. It's good to have more than one friend, if you become too dependent on one person then if they let you down it'll fuck you up.

First came out to my parents at 13. But they thought I was """confused""" - as if I was destined to become a hetfoid or something

>>8095
You are a trans man? That is unexpected.

>>8095
you should family-cuck them by getting a gf with a woke family and start calling her parents yours, and telling your parents how much better parents they are

If my friends love and appreciate me deeply why can't I find a boyfriend? Why is it so hard to find homomen in the wild?

>>8107
Realize that you're not unique and there's a bunch of guys with your same mentality (expecting a cute gay guy to read your mind).
You either have to be very open about being gay and seek gay spaces and take advantage of whatever opportunities come your way, which can be difficult, or use an app.

>>8093
actually it turns out that she's just the same amount of allergic to her phone as i am and i dont have to be sad anymore

>>8109
That's great I'm happy for you
I went to the worst case because that shit does happen a lot
Did she break the silence or did you have to find some other way to reach her?

>>8108
>You either have to be very open about being gay
But that would trigger my homophobia
>cute
i'm not cute, i am… nerdy.
>Realize that you're not unique and there's a bunch of guys with your same mentality
I do, but I don't know why we click, I analyse the mannerisms of guys I have some interest in (I am not very sociable so I don't meet a lot of new guys), they are never homosexual…

>>8111
I guarantee there are guys out there who think you're cute. Your issue will be whether you find THEM cute.
>I am not very sociable so I don't meet a lot of new guys
That's the issue, of course you're gonna have trouble finding someone if you only have access to a handful of people. You're dealing with a minority of a minority of a minority, gay guys near you that you're interested in. That's why you have to expand your scope. And yeah it can be terrifying to do it but it's your best option. There isn't really a shortcut to socializing, you just have to do it.

>>8112
How should I do it without changing my mannerisms?

>>8113
The self is a tricky thing - you're constantly changing all the time, but you feel like the same person. There's continuity. You can grow into a more sociable person over time (through exposure) while still feeling the same underneath.
Anyways, guys find nervousness cute from my experience. So you don't need to fake a new personality or anything like that.
Finding guys through apps is the fastest/easiest route but it does mean interacting with a lot of strangers. You're gonna have to sift through a wide variety of people until you find someone who's willing to commit and meet up (it 100% should be a public place the first time).
The other option is to find gay groups in your area. If you're in college there's probably an LGBT club/organization. If you're into political organizing there's probably an LGBT wing. There's gay-flavored groups popping up all the time, sports, hobbies, etc.
Are you out to your friends? Hooking up with a friend of a friend is another option. Anything you can do to expose yourself to more people, not just the ones you see day-to-day.

There was this girl at my high school who had asked me on a "date". But when I agreed, it was revealed that she was actually joking. She was truly a cishet Stacy. One guy was so shitty and he asked me to be his girlfriend. I said no. He wouldn't stop.

>>8210
Wasn't there anything suspicious about her? I wouldn't accept a random date from a random cute guy. He must really look gay or I would reject it
Do you think she will spred rumours or is your sexuality already known?
flood

>>8214
I don't know, it was a pretty long time ago and I can't remember. But she had spread rumours, i think

>>8215
Homophobic straggots are scum

>>3228
love fucking soldiers partners

>>3228
Hey so funny thing a lot of people actually want to have sex with soldiers. You were projecting I'm afraid.

>>8217
I know. They think that being cishet gives them a free pass to act like selfish little fucks

i got out a 3 year relationship 9 months ago. I had two sexual encounters since then a few months ago. There was no penetration just oral. I thought it was fine, but i dont have any drive to have sex, or socialize with new people for that matter. i deleted grindr long ago. im not really sure who im interested in.

this is my last month of the semester, i hope im not wasting my time/money here. when i dont feel as inadequate ill start talking to people again, surely. probably not on grindr though.

I believe in love and kinship, but the barriers of others' hearts is seemingly impossible to overcome. Everyone is obsessed with connecting on a purely cosmetic level. Forming communities based on consoomer behaviors got me cringing at the bare-level concept of making friends in hobbyist groups. I do not fw the vast majority of people who would "fit“ whatever gender/sexuality people assume of me, because the kind of people who care at all repulse me. Every meaningful relationship I've had has been with a cis bisexual man who wanted to dip their toes in the pool before diving in, and I'm unfortunately still friends with every single one. I'm in a beard marriage with the only other gommie from my tiny little hometown because he was the only man to match my freak and we can't even fuck cause we are just not attracted to each other.

All I want is to connect with others spiritually and mentally. I want people in my life who are willing and capable of having conversations, not people burdened by their desire to "fit in" somewhere or who can only make friends with people who watch their favorite fucking shows. I'll even take being a volcel if it means having more than one person in my life who can just talk without deigning themselves the ultimate judge of societal morals or w/e.

I hate that idpol has me waxing poetic like I'm a homophobic conservative sapiosexual but really the aspects of what make me consoomable to others is so disparate that inevitably anyone who likes me on the surface will inevitably find a facet of me they can't tolerate. I will believe in the concept of someone who could love all of me when I see it.

My close commie friends have moved away. Stuck studying a no-future career that I despise with people that I struggle to connect with due to idpol or whatever.
Ive never had a boyfriend, its difficult as it is in this fuckass country to do anything or find anyone. Yes, I could sleep with some rando for a few weeks, but literally what is the point of doing any of that if I dont truly feel anything, not even happiness. Its more and more suffocating now than ever, I just struggle to communicate with irl people around me and I feel like an utter failure. I just hope that I am actually able to move this year somewhere by myself and not come back.

>>8267
Didn't your friend have more friends? Maybe you could vefriend his friends

>>8269
I befriended them yes, but they moved away

My girlfriend keeps telling me not to say I don't pass (when I don't, I am a complete twinkhon) and she says it is all about confidence, but then admits herself that she passes perfectly, was always being mistaken for a woman even before she transitioned and had extremely lucky genetics. I really like her and this is a minor problem I just wish she listened to me rather than trying to minimize my problems.

Why is it impossible to find a boyfriend? One friend offered to matchmake me with a friend some months ago but I declined and now that I wanted he already has a bf, and I have already messaged more than 20+ guys online and nothing has comed out either (most don't respond since its not on dating apps)

>>8300
How is it going

>>8459
It's been easier to date men than women for me. It's just difficult.

>>8460
Yeah but how do you find a date? I also guess it's easier, but how do I find one…

>>8461
Through friends of friends and being a regular at social events of a specific niche. Maybe online dating is quicker but I never tried it bc it sounds like sending resumes and this shit isn't fun. If dating isn't fun I don't bother, but it can be

How can I met other LGBT folk, if I live in a reactionary shithole? I've only met one other bi guy (apart from me) and we're friends (I even confessed to liking him but he declined), but that's about all. I fear I will not be able to make a romantic relationship with somebody, and I do not wish for that to happen.

>>8463
Use grindr

>>8463
how reactionary are we talking? like are their gay bars you could goto or is there 0 queer spaces

I love my bf so much

>>8464
NTA but it requires phone verification
>>8468
cute

>>8464
Not comfortable with that, because (as >>8469 mentioned) it requires phone verification… (and I'm very paranoid regarding this, I don't wish to become a target of persecution or something)
>>8465
The only tine i visibly see LGBT folk are pride marches that happen in June, and that too only in the metropolis region of my city, I live in more of the outskirts, so I have not really seen any queer spaces or sonething similar.

>>8470
If ur paranoid like me you could try scruffies (you dom't even need and email), I couldn't use it properly because it didn't recognize my ubication with microg but maybe ur lucky

>>8470
Id be carefull with grindr if the country you're in criminalizes being gay, its often used as a honeypot by both the government and gay bashers.

>>8471
>>8472
I should probably also mention that I don't really find datibg apps appealing, they just feel like a massive job hunt-esque thing, and also a honeypot (i.e. the local LGBT dating apps I have encountered)
I forgot to mention that being gay is not illegal per se, but it was till recently. LGBT is usually seen as a "Western decadence", which I have always thought was weird, considering most colonial powers penalised sodomy and stuff…

I came across this niche depression subreddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LGBTForeverAlone/

<Anyone in NYC?

<It’s shocking that in a city like this everyone is a shallow superficial thinker with no depth of thought. Nobody has the desire to talk about the complexities of life or are too afraid to even think about the unspoken truths of society. While at the same time are so vapid they have no sense of humor or can appreciate dark harmless humor.
<The worst part is nobody even seems to have the desire to want more out of the minds of others.
Assigned Consumeroid At Birth, ACAB

>>8474
I feel like they met one asshole (or someone they interpreted as one) and they decided to write off all of humanity. If that.

Long distance situationship is taking a mental health social media break after moving to a new country and I'm just sitting around waiting for him to come back. I feel like Forrest Gump after Jenny leaves, and honestly I'm starting to understand that character more and more. I just love him, he's my person. If I had to I'd probably just spend my whole life waiting for him like Forrest did for Jenny. I hope he comes back soon.

>>8491
sorry to tell you this anon but it is over

>>8492
Nah, before he left he said he'd be back, and he was talking about coming to visit me just a couple weeks ago. If he didn't want to talk anymore or wasn't interested he would just tell me.

>>8493
thats what my dad said

>>8494
Sorry that happened to you but I'm not sure those are equivalent.

>>8495
You remind me of me, good luck

>>8496
(report back in 2 weeks)

>>8497
>>8496
Ngl it will probably be longer than that but I hope it's sooner.

>>8491
I'm gonna be you in like 3 months. I'm together with him right now but gonna be moving for work and we'll be apart for at least 6 months. I love him but I don't know how it'll go when I'm away from him and I don't want him to be held back by me.

>>8500
If he loves you too then you won't be holding him back. Just make sure you guys talk open and honestly about how you feel and what's going on.

>>8497
Update: we're talking again and everything is fine.

rank best to worst dating apps for lgbtq+ people? all people ever mention is "grindr", "grindr", "grindr" but clearly that is dominated by cis gay men. What about all the rest? wouldn't make sense to go on grindr if I was looking to date a transwoman I guess?
>inb4 tinder
i don't wanna date any of the pb scum that are on tinder, trans or any other.

>>9537
Transgirls do use Grindr, dunno what others there are

There's Barq if you're a furry lol

Nah anons, Grindr fucking glows ("uhh they all do" - no, more than average) and it is one year younger than Android (the fucking operating system). I see Grindr was brought up a little bit earlier ITT too.

I mean I just skimmed this shit and it's almost laughable (if it weren't serious), this may be worse than the standards on the Match Group-owned apps:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindr
>Headquarters: West Hollywood
>location-based
>The app has been criticized over moderation, privacy, and safety issues, including its handling of racist and discriminatory content, including a former ethnicity filter that was removed in 2020 following complaints. It has also faced privacy and security concerns, including vulnerabilities that enabled users' precise locations to be identified through trilateration, and its of extensive sharing of user data (including HIV/AIDS status) with advertisers that resulted in a €10 million GDPR fine in Norway. Researchers and human rights groups have also raised concerns about the app's use by drug dealers, the risks it poses to younger users because of limited age verification in certain regions, and its exploitation by criminals and state authorities in anti-LGBTQ regimes to entrap, extort, or assault users. In addition, the company has faced allegations of unfair labor practices in the United States.
>In the early 2010s, Grindr was criticized for not taking sufficient action to moderate the display of racist language by some of its users.[63] In June 2014, when asked about hateful speech on Grindr, the app's creator Joel Simkhai said in an interview with the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that he "didn't like it" but he "[isn't] a sixth grade teacher" and it "[isn't his] job to police such things."
>Labour union complaint: In 2023, the Communications Workers of America (CWA) filed two lawsuits alleging unfair labor practices with the US National Labor Relations Board.[40]
>User location trilateration: In August 2014, it was reported that Grindr's relative distance measurements could facilitate trilateration, thereby pinpointing individual users' near-exact location.[70] A proof of concept was published, and more than 2 million detections were performed within a few days.[71] Authorities in Egypt allegedly used the app to track and arrest gay men.[72][73] Grindr responded by temporarily disabling distance display globally.[74]
>In May 2016, a group of computer scientists from Kyoto University demonstrated how location pinpointing is still possible in the app even when a user is hiding their distance from public display.[75] By exploiting a novel attack model called colluding-trilateration, locating any targeted user becomes a very easy and cheap task without employing any special hacking technique. The attack model works with any location-based service app that shows profiles of nearby users in order of proximity, not just Grindr.[76]
>In May 2022, it was reported that Grindr's user location data has been collected and sold through a digital advertising network since 2017, before Grindr curtailed data sharing with its advertising partners in 2020. Historical data from this period may still be obtainable.[77]
>User data privacy: In April 2018, SINTEF – a Norwegian non-profit research organization – reported that Grindr's data bundles sold to third-party companies could potentially contain some users' sensitive personal information such as HIV/AIDS status and HIV testing dates. The discovery generated widespread scrutiny of Grindr's privacy practices. In response, Grindr released a statement stating "Grindr has never sold, nor will we ever sell, personally identifiable user information – especially information regarding HIV status or last test date – to third parties or advertisers. As an industry standard practice, Grindr does work with highly-regarded [software] vendors to test and optimize our platform. These vendors are under strict contractual terms that provide for the highest level of confidentiality, data security, and user privacy."[78][79][80]
>On January 14, 2020, a report was published by the Norwegian Consumer Council which alleged that Grindr had violated the European Union's General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) rules. The council asserted that Grindr sent user data to at least 135 advertisers.[81][82] The main concerns of the allegations were for sharing personal information, including users' locations and information about their device. These details could potentially indicate the sexual orientation of a user without their consent.[83] After review from the Norwegian Data Protection Authority, it was ruled that Grindr was in violation of the GDPR and fined €10 million.[84]
>In October 2020, a security researcher discovered a vulnerability in the password reset process. Anyone was able to take over an account using only the email address.[85]
>In April 2024, Grindr was the subject of a lawsuit lodged at the High Court in London for mishandling user data, including the use of "covert tracking technology" and sharing sensitive user data – including HIV status – with third party analytics companies.[86][87]
>Violent ambushes: The use of fake profiles on Grindr by homophobic predators to entrap and assault LGBTQ people is common in various countries.[92][93]
>A 2023 report by Human Rights Watch documents the widespread use of fake profiles on digital platforms like Grindr, by police to entrap, extort money from, or physically torture LGBTQ people in Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Tunisia.[94]

We gotta have something less garbage than this, fellas. This shit's ridiculous. There are relevant apps that don't have several of these drawbacks. Gimme 1 min.

Found this:
>Unstar analyzes negative iOS App Store and Google Play reviews for clusters that improve apps. We write about ASO, app reliability, and consumer software quality.
https://unstar.app/blog/lgbtq-dating-apps-grindr-her-scruff-feeld-taimi-ranked-2026
>1-3 star reviews of Grindr, HER, Scruff, Feeld, and Taimi: bots, outing risks, verification gaps, ads, and each app's hidden paywalls.
Feeld and HER get the best ranking.
Grindr got worse placement, next to Scruff and Taimi.

>>3144
Women are more discriminatory about looks than men are. Have you seen romantic media made or preferred by women? The male candidates are always hunks. The average looking guys are dismissed as shallow horndogs.
Also, women want men to be their butlers and secondary fathers.
Just like how men want women to be secondary mothers

>>3201
I think it’s more because young men aren’t romantically valued as much. Or that cishet age gap relationships with the male being the junior isn’t given as much glamorization when it’s the female being the junior.


>>8059
This. Idk why people think men having any platonic shared space is consolidated homosexual but they never do it with women as much.

>>3753
“Wanting is not the same as having” as an old proverb says. The truth is, people only want romance due to the thrill of the hunt.

>>9578
You’re a prison-gay?
You’re unwilling to have sex with masculine-looking guys?

>>8112
I'm currently in my first relationship (it fell in my lap so to speak), long-distance (for which I am not built). I proposed to meet just about three months in and he accepted, the date got postponed and he changed his mind, I pretty much begged him to reconsider and he did, only to change his mind again (this took about a month). he then proceeded to have a depressive episode and broke up with me for a week, now we're back together (it's been just about three weeks) but it's looking rather bleak.
I love him a lot but as time goes on it feels more and more like it's not going to work out, which sucks because we seem to be very compatible and he's also very pretty although not very stable, which is the only issue and he also recognizes that. my only fault is having fallen in love with a depressed misanthropic loser, not the first time either.

>>9603
Not all masculine-looking gays are ugly.
Also those places you’re visiting are probably cishet males settling with guys due to not having a shot with women

>>8217
Remember, women can be homophobic as well

being a tranknee faggot is so goddamn lonely once you make it past the filter of transitioning for like a decade unless you're down to get virtually molested on Discord by pornbrained transbians who have been on HRT for < two years and have alphabet soup microidentities and therapyspeak self-diagnosed mental disorders in place of qualia or individuality anyone else rel8

>>9766
Those people you described are probably in the same boat as you that’s why they’re like that

The truth of the matter is, transgenderism only accepted as pop cultural products, not as average Joes

Your chances of being a sexually/romantically gratified trans person are dependent on attractive you are. HRT alone is t always enough. Sometimes you need cosmetic surgery.

Cis people, both heterosexual and homosexual are already suffering from low prospects in the dating market as well.

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I kinda need advice on something.
I really want to move out and maybe go to college or something. I live in bumsfuckville of less than a thousand people. There are no job opportunities outside of being a farmer. I don’t really want to spend two hours communiting back and forth every day. I don’t like living with my mom, she’s not abusive to me anymore but she was in my childhood and we mostly avoid each other.
My girlfriend refused to go with me, because her mom has cancer and her family needs support. I understand that, I don’t want to leave her either… I don’t know why she does it. Her family doesn’t support her transition and doesn’t respect her. They work her to the bone constantly, make her pay for everything, make her drive them everywhere on top of working full time. She’s miserable.
I understand it’s not really my place to butt in I guess. I feel like moving away might hurt her more because I won’t be there to help. But also neeting is ruining my body and soul. It’s so pointless and miserable. I sit inside and smoke pot and immerse myself in video games just so that I don’t kill myself. I want to go to college and make friends too. I am incredibly lonely here.
Idk.

>>9766
They're probably masturbating while writing that, the internet is the way it is. Either ignore, block or reply with something humorous but non-sexual if you dont want to reciprocate. Like "porn is bad, m'kay" or something.
>>9781
>[they] are probably in the same boat as you
>Your chances of being a sexually/romantically gratified trans person are dependent on attractive you are. HRT alone [isn't] always enough. Sometimes you need cosmetic surgery.
>Cis people, both heterosexual and homosexual are already suffering from low prospects in the dating market as well.
Don't listen to this insane rainbow lib.

>>9797
You can't always save everyone else. Nobody is ever going to care as much about your life and your wellbeing as you do. Not even friends, family, or lovers. I'm not saying to embrace psychopathy but at the core of it, nobody else is going to fix your life. You have to do it yourself even if it means you can't be there to support others. More than likely, the people that depend on you now will find a way to survive without you. It might even give them the impetus to change their life for the better as well. It's a harsh truth but still true nonetheless.

>>9800
>They're probably masturbating while writing that, the internet is the way it is. Either ignore, block or reply with something humorous but non-sexual if you dont want to reciprocate. Like "porn is bad, m'kay" or something.

Those people are just writing spam for amusement anyway. No different from imageboards.

>Don't listen to this insane rainbow lib.


What did I say that was wrong??

>>9812
But what if I regret leaving? I’ll never be able to come back. I have no other friends or anything.

>>9906
Well, that is scary yeah, does it have to be a permanent decision though? You could do long distance with your girlfriend and tell your mom "I love you mom but I can't find a job, I feel like I need to try find myself in the city", hopefully she will understand and agree you can come back and live with her again if it doesn't work out. Same with your friends, just tell them why you need to move away and offer to hang out with them online or come over sometimes to see them, or offer them to come stay with you in the big city and see the sights.

Most of my friends have moved away and yeah we don't see each other as much as we used to be we still do hang out when they're around or hang out online and play games, I'm gonna go on a trip to Japan next year with my school friend who moved away years ago.

Maybe if you set yourself up in the city, and tell your girlfriend how much better it is, that might be enough to convince her to leave her mom and come live with you.

Even if you do lose contact with mom and girlfriend and friends, you can make new friends in the big city, go to like leftist groups or LGBT orgs and so on.

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>>9906
Oh sorry, I didn't see you meant you have no other friends. Well that should make it an even easier decision to leave then!

You can't let your girlfriend tie you down somewhere that you're miserable. You have to make your own choices and she can make hers. Maybe deep down she is happy where she is, some people prefer what they know even if it sucks than trying anything new because they couldn't handle change. You can only offer other people a little leg up in their own lives, you can't totally put yours on hold for them.

As an example, I've been living with my BF for 18 months, we wanted to buy a house together but he hasn't found a job in all this time, and I don't think he's been trying very hard to get one most of the time, whereas I've been working flat out to save up and advance my career. I desperately want to buy a house but he wanted us to wait until he had money coming in so he could go on the mortgage, well, I waited too long already for that to happen, so now I'm just buying a house on my own. He can come and live with me but I'm not going to wait forever just because he wanted to do it together. He doesn't really like the house I've picked either but I love it, and I'm the one paying so I'm going to make the decision. Like I said earlier, even though we love each other, my need to buy a house doesn't mean as much to him as it does to me. His feelings about the house don't matter to me as much as mine do. That's just life. Maybe it will give him an impetus to change, maybe not, either way I have to do what will make ME happy.

People have broken up with me for the same reason, because I wasn't doing what they needed me to do, and of course it was crushing at the time, but you know what? I got better, and it was part of what encouraged me to make changes to get me where I am now.

>>9925
Thank you, you are very kind

>>9952
No problem, hope it was helpful!


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