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LETS GET EM OUT FOR JADEY FELLAS RODS OUT
>>730028Put some respect on the queen of leftypol
>>730024>>730028using yaoi as the thread pic as its too unrealistic to find a girl these days oh woe oh woe
>>730035He's more likely to have an std than the chick though.
>>730163You look like my dad if he could grow a mustache and wore a beret and also wasn’t white and also cloned himself twice
>>730163>>730163Let me lick your chest Abu Uday😍
>>730172That’s Saddam Hussein
>>730175Yeah Saddam father of Uday thus Abu Uday
^fact checked by real Iraqi patriots^
>>730165Asymmetry in dating is disgusting. Id like to believe there would be correction decades for now, but the world is unjust and women cannot be held accountable so
>>730165uygha if you think that pic is somehow an unrealistic physique I dont know what to tell you.
>>730201It's realistic but most guys don't look like and probably never will. Same thing with women who have the female version of that body type
>>730203>It's realistic but most guys don't look like and probably never willOk, that seems like they problem thought. Like I sympathise with men who dont make the height cutoff or stuff like that you have no control over, but you dont get to complain about standards you could meet by going to gym twice a week.
>>730204>Women lyingKinda crazy how they say men lie.
>>730024I hate you JD Aaaaanhgh faggot. You're so fucking creepy.
>>730204>wearing glassesThat isn't "unconventionally attractive", that's "disgusting subhuman"
>>730220
>Adolf Hitler Memorial
That was the funniest part of the comic. Punching the chick was second funniest
>>730220
You're just supposed choke her while you pound her billy, sheesh.
>>730237Billy became a gay misogynist. Fuck women but not in the same way you fuck men.
>>730237They deleted that comic. That's kind of lame but then again it might've been a rightoid comic. It would make sense since it referred to an Adolf Hitler memorial and socking that woman in the face. I didn't understand the other stuff since it was in Russian.>>730236
>>730205I'll complain about whatever dumb shit I want to but I don't think I was there. Anyways women aren't often meeting whatever standards either but whatever
>>730326>talking to a womancringe
>>730325When you're an Incel for so long that you're mind finally breaks. It almost sounded like he was asking that cop to fuck. Any more videos like this?
>>730325Looks like a manic episode
>>730325Based normogroid terroriser
>>730325Probably psychotic
need to milk an agp transbian's prostate for everything that it's worth
>S*x and Relationships General #55
WHY WOULD YOU PUT THAT IN THE TITLE?!?! That's a bad word! Im telling!
ive settled on the conclusion that its not really that my coworker hates me its just that we're both engaged in an introvert cold war wherein, since we're both introverts, we wait for the other to intiate because usually introverts are just absorbed by extroverts(trvke), but take anyone refusing to talk to us(i.e introverts) as hating us and it leads into a self-justifying spiral that leads to increased resentiment and tensions. in conclusion there can only be one introvert in a social circle.
>>730372for example i performed the relatively neutral act of replacing her reshop cart with a fresh one and bc she also went to go get one, it looked like i was just messing with her and resulted in a tense standoff(she let out an exasperated and annoyed bruh after i explained that i was replacing her reshop cart) bc she wanted to replace her reshop cart herself(she assumed i was getting the reshop cart for myself and got frustrated she walked all the way to the aisle to get another cart). dont tell me how i fucked up this genuinely neutral-kind action since i have no fucking clue it could even get misinterpreted. but i will also take this sign as not to engage further ever again bc i do not want an escalated misunderstanding.
man
>>730205You don't get like that by casual gymgoing. That guy is a bodybuilder who is just bulking when he took that photo.
>>730390No fighter, aka people with real physique, look like that, lol. That's just homoerotic body-building shit like you said.
>>730391Yeah it requires a level of dedication and bulking which is beyond what is practical for martial arts or labor.
>>730394As in, almost nobody needs huge biceps for anything other than looking good.
>>730441
Are you a dog?
>>730325Probably saw some sigma male edits and thought he was it lol
>>730442I mean figuratively i guess
>>730326Is this good advice?
<I would to be
>Like the sea
<And that in my waves
<You would came to swim
>So that way I could be with you
<Until.the end
>My love
>>730199> the world is unjust and women cannot be held accountablepathetic, dude, pathetic. hit me up when women have you chained barefoot and manpregnant to a stove. hit me up when women burn down your village and carry off your manchildren for gang rape. hit me up when women burn you at the stake for being a wizard. hit me up when men are the majority of prostitutes and strippers. hit me up when men are the ones wiping the asses in the nursing home and changing diapers at daycare. touch grass.
>wh-white knight!!!!nah, women can be annoying pieces of shit just like you, i just acknowledge that life dealt many of them a shit hand
>>730575Bro, men are conscripted for war and that's increasingly relevant even in whatever westoid state you're posting from. Men also do the vast majority of actual hard labor, not that it's very relevant since we are not those people and neither are women we usually interact with of the professions you brought up.
>hit me up when women have you chained barefoot and manpregnant to a stove. hit me up when women burn down your village and carry off your manchildren for gang rape. hit me up when women burn you at the stake for being a wizardIt only happens in some African and Asian countries like Sudan and Syria now, so not very relevant to gender discourse elsewhere. But if you want to go there, what do you think happened to boys when their village was captured by hostile forces historically? Let's look wider: what do you think happened to the entire male native population of Brazil? And what happened to the women. What happened to male Chinese royalty that was captured by a hostile state? And what happened to the women. It goes on and on, slaves in roman mines and ottoman galleys were also men. Once you start reading history you understand that patriarchy is so much worse to men than to women. The only reason you or most other feminists think otherwise is because you do not dare look outside the most hegemonic of hegemonic culture, as in, people like Alice Chapelle (who gets posted here) make many videos about Hollywood celebrities of all people and none about regular Filipino immigrant guys or other men don't have immense wealth, so, the vast majority even in their own imperialist countries. MeToo was also about Hollywood celebrities of all people.
To be clear, I do not say this to support incel bs, it's just that I used to think the way you do and reading your post made me cringe. That's just not the way things are now or were historically.
Yes, women's lives are not great for many reasons but actual oppressed people's lives are overlooked virtually every time in feminist discourse and that changes the equation drastically. The baseline for the conversation is lecherous Hollywood directors or at best the suburban white american family of 1950s. Feminism was formed by ruling class women in the most hegemonic of hegemonic places that it looks like will ever exist in human history and it really shows.
The solution is working class dictatorship and complete eradication of the material foundations of the patriarchy.
>related: Angelina Jolie bailing her bodyguard out of being sent to the trenches in Ukraine >>730325I thought this was Sam Hyde from the thumbnail.
>>730598Nah that guy looks better than Sam Hyde
I love women so much it's unreal
>>730598I thought the same kek
>>730599Yea, Hyde looks like a bloated gorilla
>>730575>hit me up when women burn down your village and carry off your manchildren for gang rapeThis one has never made sense to me because they only carry off the women for rape after killing all the men. I'd rather be raped than dead and my wife raped but that's just me
>>730611I like my baristas with a worker physique. From carrying all the roasted coffee sacks. Makes the quadriceps grow
>>730611I would be so much more attracted to transsis there if she had better hygiene and her room was actually clean and not full of crumbs.
>>730649post your room first then
>>730594who's doing the conscripting?
>>730609who's doing the raping?
>>730789The ruling class and their servants
>>730793>bro, class consciousnesstell that to the original anon who wanted to whine about women
Mods, please permaban above posters, thank you.
I love Jadey, I don’t care that she loves BBC, bros
>>730820
She’s taken, bub
>>731201Why tf would she stay with him then if she has an airplane hangar of a vagina? He's probably bourgeois, so he he should kill himself.
(stop lashing out at ragebait reddit fanfiction, idiot) >>731204Mods ban him for actual misogyny this time!
>>731204I'm not against this post getting oranged, but why is posting the ragebait itself OK?
>>731275>I'm not against this post getting oranged, but why is posting the ragebait itself OK?this anon is two steps ahead of the game.
i suspect ragebait is left up because it drives "engagement" and lets reactionaries go mask off so mods can ban them >>731201I don't believe this story because when I give a woman head during foreplay I also finger her before using my penis at all. If someone with a micropenis was really being lied to by his gf like this, it would be a very obvious lie that fell apart immediately. What kind of "medical problem" would allow entry by fingers and tongue but disallow entry by
micropenis? Nobody, not even a redditor on r/smalldickproblems would fall for this for more than a week, let alone fall for it for
3 fucking years. Obvious ragebait is obvious. I have more thoughts but I'll keep it to this.
>>731282to clarify, i don't believe this story either because
>3 yearsis way too fucking much for things like that but
>What kind of "medical problem" would allow entry by fingers and tongue but disallow entry by micropenis?depends on how "micro" the penis is. if it's 2-4 times the circumference of a standard finger or a tampon, theoretically a woman with vaginismus could have issues with entry. or it could be a woman with a thick enough hymen (and a small opening inside it, or the hymen being of the septate kind - a stretch of skin in the middle bisecting the introitus) to cause pain on penetration attempts, enough for her to not proceed further
I am once again posting about how uncomfortable I feel in my gf's presence while she sleeps in the other room. At least I have advent of code to calm me down. I wish I didn't feel lust or loneliness.
>>731419what makes you uncomfortable?
I was on customer support and some middle aged lady handled it. When something didn‘t work out and she could sense I was slightly upset she put on her mommy voice and I was turned on. How far gone am I?
>>731568It probably never began for you or for most of us here
>>731575Nah I was Chad in 6th grade so there was at least a slither of hope
>>731456Just feel stressed out when we're going to bed and start to feel lonely and want her gone. When she's awake and we're together I feel fine, happy even when we're joking around just passing the time. When we're apart or she falls asleep in my arms the feeling that we're just wasting eachother's time creeps in. I think deep down I resent not partying in my teens and early 20s and just want to do that now, but at the same time it feels pathetic to throw away a good relationship for that.
>>731585>I think deep down I resent not partying in my teens and early 20sIt‘s not THAT fun. And you probably imagine it to be cooler than it is. Find a substitute that you can do now with her. You can still go clubbing or party at your age. Also, funny that you speak of wasting time as opposed to partying in adolescence.
>>731593By "partying" he probably means sleeping with other women. It probably wouldn't be fun to do that with your wife or girlfriend if you're looking to do that unless you're both sex freaks.
>>731593>It‘s not THAT fun.Disagree. I've had enough to know that I enjoy drugs, dancing, and casual sex with strangers quite a lot actually.
>You can still go clubbing or party at your ageI do and my gf can be a downer. It often feels like she's only going out to humor me and she can't really keep up on the dancefloor despite going out with me often. Always wants to turn in early, and if she leaves I fantasize about being with the fun women I see around me.
>Also, funny that you speak of wasting time as opposed to partying in adolescence.You can always make more money, learn new things, etc. You NEVER get more youth to spend frivolously.
>>731595Yes, don't forget the drugs, which I indulge in despite the gf's disapproval.
>>731601Then I think you should break up with your girlfriend. You two sound incompatible regarding what‘s very important to you, and your resentment might get redirected to her eventually. Not to mention that the nice moments you have with her you can find in another girl
>>731614introduced to leftypol by a female friend*
>>731616>draw a flat chested woman>write that it's a manWhy do artists do this?
Everything was going fine until that horniness hits you and you want to send messages to ex sex partners. Even that completely schizo one.
>>731614NO GIRLS ALLOWED!!!!
>>731621my girlbrained post sensor is detecting a reading
>>731614>why isn't there a leftypol /soc/ board?a healthy paranoia is necessary, plus i don't think that a large enough percentage of the users on here have a hard time meeting people irl (compared to other imageboards, at least)
>>731623i'll tell you a secret, "there are no women on the internet" is a common saying partially reproduced by
women themselves to deflect any chud attention. by implying that behind every "female" post is another male, you also play into the chud's insecurities and cause him to fuck off or be perceived as homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with homosexuality per se, but a chud definitely doesn't want to be seen as gay)
>>731629I'M NOT GAYYYY!!! YOU ARE!!!
>>731630>YOU ARE!!!that is, in fact, true. not sure about the first half btw if the chud keeps demonstrating interest after the "reveal"
>>731616With rope and hope.
>>731629>a healthy paranoia is necessary, it's not like you have to post your home address or anything
>plus i don't think that a large enough percentage of the users on here have a hard time meeting people irl (compared to other imageboards, at least)i suppose that's possible, but it's not necessarily that we have a hard time meeting people. i have no problem getting swipes on apps, but it just seems impossible to find a woman who isn't your basic liberal or worse, some socdem retard who can't read. dating apps are all devised by capitalists who try everything to coerce people into buying the paid version of their apps and even when you do they surely aren't meant to help you find a good match, otherwise why else would you keep paying for the subscription? it makes perfect sense to me to have a /soc/ board here considering we already have a relationships general and also because the revolution requires us to make as many connections with each other as possible. what other options do we have except for other big tech data harvesting operations? outside of work the best way to meet people is places where people congregate to discuss their hobbies and interests, and it's not like i can just get up and get another job and move to a bigger city, but i already live within 30 minutes of a major city anyway. everything happens online now, we can't go back to the pre social media internet where the internet was just for funposting. i can go on, but yeah, i just want to be able to meet more marxists in general without having to become a wandering hobo.
>>731647>it just seems impossible to find a woman who isn't your basic liberal or worse, some socdem retard who can't read.good news, the women you're probably looking for are very likely not to be found on dating apps either. more and more "female" profiles on such apps are replaced by engagement-collecting bots, human female users getting shadowbanned for minor "infractions" (plus privacy-conscious women/men/anyone else choosing to not use these apps at all)
>outside of work the best way to meet people is places where people congregate to discuss their hobbies and interests, and it's not like i can just get up and get another job and move to a bigger city, do your current interests have no irl meetup groups in your area? i'm really sorry (╥﹏╥)
>everything happens online nowsomewhat true for hobbies and interests that don't involve any irl activity, partially true for those that do and i suppose there should be specialized forums or (at the very least) social media groups for discussing them all. if any group is mostly composed of adults (or poor teens that have to start working early in life) there's bound to be work-related discussion, contents of which will of course depend on the class composition of the group
but i highly doubt there's anyone itt that's into something primarily enjoyed by the porkies such as golfing or yacht clubs so i think you could be able to sniff out a fellow traveler or a generic non-lib that's leaning lefty on some positions ₍^. .^₎Ⳋ
>>731650>good news, the women you're probably looking for are very likely not to be found on dating apps either. more and more "female" profiles on such apps are replaced by engagement-collecting bots, human female users getting shadowbanned for minor "infractions" (plus privacy-conscious women/men/anyone else choosing to not use these apps at all)im well aware, im not on dating apps for the same reasons.
>do your current interests have no irl meetup groups in your area? i'm really sorry (╥﹏╥)i live in a red state in the us, and even though i live within an hour of the biggest city and a well known liberal college town they're both about an hour away by driving. i can try to go out and find some groups but it's not very practical to go out every weekend. im unfortunately not a rich liberal with well off bourgeois parents i have a working class job and i work almost 50 hours a week. and even then im not college going age and i dont want to seem like a creepy weirdo fishing for young college girls.
>somewhat true for hobbies and interests that don't involve any irl activity, partially true for those that do and i suppose there should be specialized forums or (at the very least) social media groups for discussing them all. if any group is mostly composed of adults (or poor teens that have to start working early in life) there's bound to be work-related discussion, contents of which will of course depend on the class composition of the group but i highly doubt there's anyone itt that's into something primarily enjoyed by the porkies such as golfing or yacht clubs so i think you could be able to sniff out a fellow traveler or a generic non-lib that's leaning lefty on some positions ₍^. .^₎Ⳋworking class people in america, in my experience, are not only ignorant of their reality but also completely opposed to any suggestion that the system of slavery they toil under is wrong in any way. they have complete and perfect stockholm syndrome and cannot imagine life in anything except a capitalist system (as mark fisher has so eloquently explained) and as a result any mention of the dreaded S or C word results in weird looks at best and hostility at worst. maybe ive just been unlucky, but this is my general experience. it is the ones who are well off and free to study and educate themselves (much like marx and engels themselves) who have the depth of education to even understand and read marx. it's a sad situation, and that's why i turn to places like this and shitty discord servers filled with autistic student anarchists who talk nonstop about how we need more neurodivergent awareness because they cant stand being 5 seconds without their earpods or some horseshit instead of reading marxist books.
>>731661>i can try to go out and find some groups but it's not very practical to go out every weekend.i understand your particular situation more clearly now, thank you. i suppose it'll be reasonable to take quite some time vetting the group online before you try to take part in any irl activity of theirs, easier to do if they've had meetups in the past and posted about it online
>even then im not college going age and i dont want to seem like a creepy weirdo fishing for young college girls.i don't think you'll be perceived as such unless you actually try to pursue young college girls (๑ᵔ⤙ᵔ๑) not every group might have (only) young college girls in the first place
>any mention of the dreaded S or C word results in weird looks at best and hostility at worst. well here's where our anecdotal experiences differ quite a lot since i don't live in the us and didn't experience this kind of adverse reaction to specific words acting as triggers proper from other proletarians i've talked to… i agree that this sounds depressing and, well, cucked to say the least (•́ ᴖ •̀) however since (you) have been able to study and educate yourself despite your immediate conditions i wouldn't completely exclude the possibility of there being other people with similar experiences in your area also looking for connection
>autistic student anarchists who talk nonstop about how we need more neurodivergent awareness because they cant stand being 5 seconds without their earpods or some horseshit instead of reading marxist books.if they can't figure out how to download an audiobook at the very least i wouldn't take their words as anything other than purely emotional outcries at experienced adversities, real or imagined (,,>﹏<,,)
>>731689>i understand your particular situation more clearly now, thank you. thank you, you've been quite kind to take the time to listen to my whiney horseshit. i appreciate it.
>i suppose it'll be reasonable to take quite some time vetting the group online before you try to take part in any irl activity of theirs, easier to do if they've had meetups in the past and posted about it online i was dumb enough to meet up with people i had just barely met online as a young lad, but not anymore. if a miracle happened and i formed a new friendship on the internet it would take quite some time before i even considered letting that person even know anything about me that could potentially identify me, let alone meeting up. im quite open to chatting with strangers but you know privacy is quite a fragile thing nowadays.
>i don't think you'll be perceived as such unless you actually try to pursue young college girls (๑ᵔ⤙ᵔ๑) not every group might have (only) young college girls in the first placenow that i think about it im not even sure if im interested in any kind of social activities that aren't philosophical literature clubs or serious communist organizations. that's really all i care about. i guess i do like music. i was considering trying to start a hardcore punk band the other day. i play bass and sing and i figured i might put ads up at a local venue looking for other members. but yeah i dont even know what my crochety ass would like about being in a room full of strangers who are likely disgusting normoids with no taste. yes i am an elitist.
>well here's where our anecdotal experiences differ quite a lot since i don't live in the us and didn't experience this kind of adverse reaction to specific words acting as triggers proper from other proletarians i've talked to… people in europe are much more likely to be educated i visited germany for a month and ive been wanting to go back for over a decade since
>i agree that this sounds depressing and, well, cucked to say the least (•́ ᴖ •̀) yup
>however since (you) have been able to study and educate yourself despite your immediate conditions i wouldn't completely exclude the possibility of there being other people with similar experiences in your area also looking for connection certainly i am sure there are people just like me the problem is people like me dont like other people i would never be part of any club that would accept me as a member. meh, i mean, im not that big a curmudgeon. i can be optimistic sometimes but the older i get the less and less people impress me.
>if they can't figure out how to download an audiobook at the very least i wouldn't take their words as anything other than purely emotional outcries at experienced adversities, real or imagined (,,>﹏<,,)i mean, they're just kids. still figuring themselves out. i dont know how it is in europe but here the culture is very self centered and every young person is encouraged to create a narrative that centers around their trauma. i think it's good that we're becoming more sensitive as a species but we're becoming so self-centered and egoistic projecting our idealistic intersectional fetishism onto the world and making demands of others because we lack dialectical inquiry which is such a tremendously important concept to develop critical thinking skills and a more objective and comprehensive worldview. this is what happens when we stop teaching plato to children. in american education plato is only mentioned in passing let alone any other kinds of philosophy or methods of inquiry. hell, american schoolkids barely even know how to read now.
>>731699>i mean, they're just kids. still figuring themselves out. i dont know how it is in europe but here the culture is very self centered and every young person is encouraged to create a narrative that centers around their trauma. i think it's good that we're becoming more sensitive as a species but we're becoming so self-centered and egoistic projecting our idealistic intersectional fetishism onto the world and making demands of others because we lack dialectical inquiry which is such a tremendously important concept to develop critical thinking skills and a more objective and comprehensive worldview. this is what happens when we stop teaching plato to children. in american education plato is only mentioned in passing let alone any other kinds of philosophy or methods of inquiry. hell, american schoolkids barely even know how to read now.Idk how true the last sentence is because as an American, I have never met a child that didn't know how to read.
Also, philosophy is an overused metric of intellectual maturity.
Also, most young people aren't political activists let alone looking to "change the world". Very few young people are like that.
Also, politics is always filled with people trying to "figure themselves out".
You called yourself an elitist with disdain for "normies", no?
That sounds kinda egotistical to me.
>>731585Are you going thru midlife crisis?
>>731593This.
Irony is, nowadays, there's more likely to be more older people in clubs than younger.
Also, don't people go to bars as a substitute for the nightclu
>>731700>Idk how true the last sentence is because as an American, I have never met a child that didn't know how to read.i dont mean that they literally cannot read, i mean that they are losing the ability to read important texts, to be literate and to study and have the attention span to read the foundational works of western civilization.
>Also, philosophy is an overused metric of intellectual maturity.i dont emphasize philosophical knowledge as a marker of intellectual maturity like some kind of performative status symbol. it is an essential part of creating an educated society that can analyze and process texts, information, data; philosophy helps one to develop social intelligence, emotional intelligence, political intelligence, and it helps direct scientific research. in the words of zizek, philosophy does not provide answers, it allows us to know which are the correct questions to ask.
>Also, most young people aren't political activists let alone looking to "change the world". Very few young people are like that.I didnt say that so i dont know where you're getting that from. i said that young people are encouraged to make themselves and their personal experiences the center of their world, to become consumed with their personal "stories" and to relate everything to their perceived traumas. it is completely lacking in any kind of dialectics which creates a crippled mind, unable to understand anything unless it personally relates to them and their experiences.
>Also, politics is always filled with people trying to "figure themselves out".it shouldn't be, politics is supposed to be left to the vanguard party until the proletariat is sufficiently educated on historical materialism and class struggle.
>You called yourself an elitist with disdain for "normies", no?>That sounds kinda egotistical to me.i am egotistical and i think most people are stupid, yes i already said that. no i dont care how that makes me sound because it's the truth. most of us are egotistical anyway, but believe it or not i am actually less self-centered than most other people. i care less about my own problems than i do the problem of global wage slavery and dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
>>731704>i am egotistical and i think most people are stupid, yes i already said that. no i dont care how that makes me sound because it's the truth. most of us are egotistical anyway, but believe it or not i am actually less self-centered than most other people. i care less about my own problems than i do the problem of global wage slavery and dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.And how many people have said the same thing that you have?
Too many.
If anything, you sound solipsistic.
Using your ethical concerns of politics as a justified stake to look down on others for not sharing your level of intellectual interest is a common problem in academic circles
>I didnt say that so i dont know where you're getting that from. i said that young people are encouraged to make themselves and their personal experiences the center of their world, to become consumed with their personal "stories" and to relate everything to their perceived traumas. it is completely lacking in any kind of dialectics which creates a crippled mind, unable to understand anything unless it personally relates to them and their experiences.And so are older people, particularly older men.
Most people over forty sem to act like anything outside of their generational culture is the dark ages. They think that the world is doomed to fall into the sun just because nobody remembers nor cares about their inside jokes.
>i dont emphasize philosophical knowledge as a marker of intellectual maturity like some kind of performative status symbol. it is an essential part of creating an educated society that can analyze and process texts, information, data; philosophy helps one to develop social intelligence, emotional intelligence, political intelligence, and it helps direct scientific research. in the words of zizek, philosophy does not provide answers, it allows us to know which are the correct questions to ask.If this really were true, why are there so many schools of thought that argue with each other and use ridiculous rhetorical questions like:
"Would you let X be Y?"
Philosophy was created by people who were bright but often too egotistical and ironically had a lack of appreciation for the concrete world.
>i dont mean that they literally cannot read, i mean that they are losing the ability to read important texts, to be literate and to study and have the attention span to read the foundational works of western civilization.Most people are "cognitively illiterate" by your standards.
Do you know how many working class people from the pre-Internet era even know let alone care about philosophical nuances?
>>731704>it shouldn't be, politics is supposed to be left to the vanguard party until the proletariat is sufficiently educated on historical materialism and class struggle.And this kind of attitude is exactly what leads to bourgeois factions exploiting the proletariat.
Irony is, alot of vanguards are often lacking in maintaining their momentum.
As soon as they gain power, they always start fighting amongst each other and incite civil wars.
Have you ever thought that the real reason why the USSR failed was because of elitist infighting amongst the vanguards rather than just "CIA made me do it"?
>>731647>i am egotistical and i think most people are stupid, yes i already said that. no i dont care how that makes me sound because it's the truth. most of us are egotistical anyway, but believe it or not i am actually less self-centered than most other people. i care less about my own problems than i do the problem of global wage slavery and dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
>working class people in america, in my experience, are not only ignorant of their reality but also completely opposed to any suggestion that the system of slavery they toil under is wrong in any way. they have complete and perfect stockholm syndrome and cannot imagine life in anything except a capitalist system (as mark fisher has so eloquently explained) and as a result any mention of the dreaded S or C word results in weird looks at best and hostility at worst. maybe ive just been unlucky, but this is my general experience. it is the ones who are well off and free to study and educate themselves (much like marx and engels themselves) who have the depth of education to even understand and read marx. it's a sad situation, and that's why i turn to places like this and shitty discord servers filled with autistic student anarchists who talk nonstop about how we need more neurodivergent awareness because they cant stand being 5 seconds without their earpods or some horseshit instead of reading marxist books.How does this make sense?
You complain about solipsism yet you shamelessly display and rationalize your own opinions as absolute fact with only anecdotes
>>730575This board is just a few steps away from becoming pol 2.0
>>730199Women are unfairly blamed for things that aren't their fault as compensation for things they aren't held accountable for
>>731699>thank you, you've been quite kind to take the time to listen to my whiney horseshit. i appreciate it.you're welcome anon (˶˃ᆺ˂˶)
>if a miracle happened and i formed a new friendship on the internet it would take quite some time before i even considered letting that person even know anything about me that could potentially identify me, let alone meeting up.i think one-on-one messaging is potentially less safer than groupchats if your initial goal is integrating yourself into a group, but you could have a different threat model i suppose ¯\_(ヅ)_/¯
>im quite open to chatting with strangers but you know privacy is quite a fragile thing nowadays.i feel the same, especially with more and more social media-type platforms requiring a kind of identity proof "to stop bots/ai scraping" (horseshit excuse for datamining, in practice). if image proof becomes mandatory, i've thought about using some kind of ai model to generate a realistic enough image of a human person to "represent myself" but there's the possible issue of compromising your own honesty towards other real people (since this is technically catfishing, and i suppose quite a lot of people are still somewhat sleeping on privacy issues) + in some cases this won't even pass since you're required to open your front camera and provide real-time proof on video (｡ᵕ ◞ _◟)
thankfully this is still
somewhat far fetched in my conditions, i get by with an instant messenger to mostly interact with people i've already known irl and have no other social media
>i guess i do like music. i was considering trying to start a hardcore punk band the other day. i play bass and sing and i figured i might put ads up at a local venue looking for other members.if you have a local venue, why no go to shows? hardcore punk is supposed to be one of the more political genres, even if mostly full of libs or "aesthetic" enjoyers. putting up an ad actually sounds like a pretty good idea to me also ꒰ᐢ. .ᐢ꒱
>but yeah i dont even know what my crochety ass would like about being in a room full of strangers who are likely disgusting normoids with no taste. yes i am an elitist.ngl i really think most people at shows like hxc think of themselves as elitists, or at least to be "trve" compared to "poseurs". no one wants to be a "poseur" no matter how much internet-people proclaim "the death of cringe" this kind of attitude will probably persist irl for better or for worse
>certainly i am sure there are people just like me the problem is people like me dont like other people i would never be part of any club that would accept me as a member. >but the older i get the less and less people impress me.do you only want to be friends with people that impress you in some way? most people are rather ordinary, or at least seem to be such if they're not the type to outwardly display their inclinations or straight up fish for attention
>we're becoming so self-centered and egoistic projecting our idealistic intersectional fetishism onto the world and making demands of others because we lack dialectical inquiry >becomingi wouldn't be sure to call egoism a new phenomenon exactly, neologisms and specific terminology does seep into everyday speech but that's the default course of things. regarding us-american culture in particular being more egoistic than others, i suppose that's true however since it has been a dominant/hegemonic culture for quite some time it certainly had some effect on the rest of the world's cultures. personally i've mostly observed us culture
worship in liberals, and for those that were not libs to begin with, excessive consumption of it did lead to liberal inclinations (somewhat relevant example
>>>/leftypol/2580114 )
>hell, american schoolkids barely even know how to read now.the more i read about this (and similar observances with gen alpha children in other countries, albeit at smaller rates), the more it sounds like a parenting issue. parents leaving their kids glued to ipads instead of spending quality time with them
and educating them, too for a multitude of reasons ranging from the child being unwanted/accidental in a nuclear family (meaning no extended family to spend time with the child and socialize them) that's simply not suited for raising children due to parents having 0 time/energy to actually raise them to simply parents being shit people in general
this, in turn, puts more pressure on schoolteachers and other public workers, who are often grossly underpaid (in my region at least) with younger specialists trained in schooling just out of higher ed preferring to go into the private sector (online cram schools, tutoring, etc) en masse
>>731629>i don't think that a large enough percentage of the users on here have a hard time meeting people irlMore like there arent enough users on this site for /soc/ board to be of any use. Maybe if you live in major US city there might be couple people in your locality, everyone else is scattered around the globe. You could try making a /soc/ thread, but I doubt it will see lot of activity.
>>731701>Are you going thru midlife crisis?No, it just hits me everytime I'm in a relationship. I wish anyone I was actually romantically attracted to liked me back. This time hurts especially bad because there were recently three women I really felt good chemistry with who all turned me down in varying degrees from shot down on first date to led me on for 3 months in a weird situationship where we'd fuck every couple weeks and do relationship things but she couldn't see a more serious one with me.
>>731719the more i read about this (and similar observances with gen alpha children in other countries, albeit at smaller rates), the more it sounds like a parenting issue. parents leaving their kids glued to ipads
Bruh, people have been complaining about this for at least two centuries.
They accused millennials and Gen Z of being illiterate.
And still, kids write fanfiction and long lines of text.
The real problem is that education is not centered around blue collar skills.
It's based around forced/controlled socialization
>>731725So you have no real problems….
Met, or rather saw a woman at work (currently jobbing retail because working in IT with my degree made me miserable and depressed as fuck) i hadn't seen in years. We grew up in the same street, went to the same school, a few grades apart, but never had anything to do with each other really, just seeing each other in passing every now and then.
Anyway, as i work in retail and actually enjoy it quite a bit (did so for almost 8 years when in school/while at uni) i greated her, as I do with almost every customer with a friendly 'good day'.
She replied with a 'good day' first, moving along to then turn around, like in a shitty romcom, taking a second look, realizing it was, well, me, gae me a pretty smile and said 'Hi' a second time.
The reason i write this diary entry is i'm an insecure autist i guess who spends too much time alone and can't stop thinking about it.
Guess she lives still in the city and is a regular customer and if i wasn't an insecure autist i'd talk to her next time i see her instead of writing here…
>>731749just talk to her breh
>>731751witchcraft
i will die a virgin
>>731811A lot of us probably will
>>731728>So you have no real problems…Correct. I have no real problems and I feel like shit.
>>731833Most of the anons on here are dysfunctional adult males who cannot pull a bitch to save their lives. They would kill to have your lot in life.
>>731601>You can always make more money, learn new things, etc. You NEVER get more youth to spend frivolously.Going to nightclubs on occasion in your twenties isn't frivolous. More people over thirty spend more time at the bar after work.
Also, your youth is supposed to be the time to learn as much as you can, earn as much money as you can, and get lucky as much as you can.
Also this ideology that youth is supposed to.be spent frivolously is bourgeois thinking that's dangerously reproduced by proletarians.
Youth is not supposed to be permanent innocence.
>>731826Highly doubt.
Most of us will die having sex but not the way we wanted
>>731843I said a lot not most. I also said probably
>>731845Fair point.
What's your dream fantasy of popping your cherry?
>>731843>Most of us will die having sexHaving had sex, or having sex?
>>731847It's hard to fantasize about it. I just look at it realistically and it would be awkward and probably embarrassing and maybe a little gross. I imagine it would be pity sex if that actually exists and would require me to actually engage with people and also leave the house to socialize or through work or use those dreaded apps which I have never used. I figure if I don't pay for it I'd have to be very drunk or drugged and I don't drink alcohol or use drugs. Viewing porn or watching cam models doing their thing seems like the best option and requires the least amount of work and discomfort.
>>731852You can pressure some elderly Asian woman into giving you pity head like some other Anon retold on here,
>>731852This is why we need to hurry up with AR/VR porn systems
>>731848The former although the latter is also a peculiar probability
>>731707>And how many people have said the same thing that you have?>Too many.we can say anything we feel, but the proof is in the pudding. it's pretty easy to become educated if you care. however education, real education, both historically and today offer very little incentive to us if all we value is creature comforts. what matters to us is pleasure, comfort, power, sex, the endless craving for more and more to satiate our will. the realization that these things are just chains that enslave us is perhaps not that difficult to see, but what is required of us to make the decision to free ourselves? it becomes obvious that to free yourself from these chains you must renounce them, and that means you must renounce the idea that any of these things have meaning. they're spooks, if you prefer that term. personally i think stirner's egoism is a more crude version of the buddhist noble truths, but they both basically say the same thing.
but what does any of this mean to us when we are embroiled in the struggles of our day to day existence? when we encounter these ideas we are already subsumed by this existence and we cannot imagine giving up all that we (presume to) know and possess just for the promise of enlightenment, just an idea that says "maybe all of this isn't what we think it is, but who really knows?" such things require an attitude that is completely contrary to what we are told is true. you can see how for the average person, this is a daunting task, with practically no benefit. the good news is that the inherent unsatisfactoriness of life, the impermanence of all things, the feeling that something isn't right, exists within all of us at the center of consciousness, and anyone who has ever attempted a moment of introspection can feel these things even if perhaps they cannot identity them. buddhism exists to educate us about the things we already know but struggle to understand.
>If anything, you sound solipsistic.if you mean i am self-centered then yes, but not any more so than anybody else. i still have an ego that is yet to be shed, and the ego is a greedy and attention-seeking little monkey that dominates our consciousness from the moment of our births. if you mean that i believe the self is all that exists, that's also false. i dont believe the self exists, because nothing truly exists. the heart sutra states form is emptiness, emptiness is form. all things are lacking in any substance, for all things are just great heaps of illusory shadows that cannot exist independently of each other. "if this arises, that arises. if this ceases to exist, that also ceases to exist."
>Using your ethical concerns of politics as a justified stake to look down on others for not sharing your level of intellectual interest is a common problem in academic circlesi don't justify anything. i lament at the current state of things. i wish things could be different, not because i believe my particular interests are of some political or ideological importance, but because i wish us all to become free of suffering and of clinging to impermanence.
>And so are older people, particularly older men.>Most people over forty sem to act like anything outside of their generational culture is the dark ages. They think that the world is doomed to fall into the sun just because nobody remembers nor cares about their inside jokes.the older generation has always looked down upon the younger generation, but i do not believe that younger people are stupid, i just lament that we are failing them.
>If this really were true, why are there so many schools of thought that argue with each other and use ridiculous rhetorical questions like:>"Would you let X be Y?"your argument against philosophy is that it's useless because there is a diversity of ideas? is mathematics also useless because mathematicians argue about different ideas? perhaps im not understanding you correctly.
>Philosophy was created by people who were bright but often too egotistical and ironically had a lack of appreciation for the concrete world.not sure what to say to this except you've probably never read plato, otherwise you wouldn't say something so ignorant. socrates was killed for asking people to be coherent and consistent in their ideas and beliefs. aristotle and the stoics are just some of the philosophers who compose the bedrock of the entire scientific method.
>>731708>And this kind of attitude is exactly what leads to bourgeois factions exploiting the proletariat.i can't really disagree with you. the bourgeois can easily exploit the interests of the proletariat because the lumpen are interested in treats and promises of treats. class conscious workers are aware that any promises from the bourgeois are all lies, but very few laborers (speaking primarily in the USA) are conscious enough to know this. still, that doesn't mean that im wrong that the average person is almost completely lacking in any class consciousness. there is a difference between having an a priori attitude based on nothing and simply reflecting on the reality of a situation.
>Irony is, alot of vanguards are often lacking in maintaining their momentum.>As soon as they gain power, they always start fighting amongst each other and incite civil wars.also true
>Have you ever thought that the real reason why the USSR failed was because of elitist infighting amongst the vanguards rather than just "CIA made me do it"?i dont know the answer to how to stop infighting. im not sure if anybody does. all we can really do is be more willing to cooperate and to keep cooperation as a priority, but what can man do against the ills of power? power corrupts and nothing can stop that. here i am a bit of an anarchist only in the sense that i believe any kind of position of authority over others is inherently dangerous, but i dont know what the solution is.
>>732012>the older generation has always looked down upon the younger generation, but i do not believe that younger people are stupid, i just lament that we are failing them.And this again is what I'm talking about. The absolute patronization that people like you do just because they don't confirm to your whims.
Most older people are not well read on philosophy, except as allusions to "the good old days".
>not sure what to say to this except you've probably never read plato, otherwise you wouldn't say something so ignorant. socrates was killed for asking people to be coherent and consistent in their ideas and beliefs. aristotle and the stoics are just some of the philosophers who compose the bedrock of the entire scientific methodThere are other philosophers whom were just as innovative and contributive but you'd dismiss them because they're not as prominent as Socrates or Plato.
Also, I'm not sure if you're aware but the "bedrock of modern scientific method" guys didn't agree on wanting plebians to learn science.
>your argument against philosophy is that it's useless because there is a diversity of ideas? is mathematics also useless because mathematicians argue about different ideas? perhaps im not understanding you correctly.I'm saying that you think philosophy is the only way for enlightenment. You act as if though you know everything. You also complain about reactionaries and liberals whom have differing philosophies than you.
>we can say anything we feel, but the proof is in the pudding. it's pretty easy to become educated if you care. however education, real education, both historically and today offer very little incentive to us if all we value is creature comforts. what matters to us is pleasure, comfort, power, sex, the endless craving for more and more to satiate our will. the realization that these things are just chains that enslave us is perhaps not that difficult to see, but what is required of us to make the decision to free ourselves? it becomes obvious that to free yourself from these chains you must renounce them, and that means you must renounce the idea that any of these things have meaning. they're spooks, if you prefer that term. personally i think stirner's egoism is a more crude version of the buddhist noble truths, but they both basically say the same thing. but what does any of this mean to us when we are embroiled in the struggles of our day to day existence? when we encounter these ideas we are already subsumed by this existence and we cannot imagine giving up all that we (presume to) know and possess just for the promise of enlightenment, just an idea that says "maybe all of this isn't what we think it is, but who really knows?" such things require an attitude that is completely contrary to what we are told is true. you can see how for the average person, this is a daunting task, with practically no benefit. the good news is that the inherent unsatisfactoriness of life, the impermanence of all things, the feeling that something isn't right, exists within all of us at the center of consciousness, and anyone who has ever attempted a moment of introspection can feel these things even if perhaps they cannot identity them. buddhism exists to educate us about the things we already know but struggle to understand.
The real problem in our society is that people are idealistic. It's not really pleasure that's keeping us down. Anything remotely fun is always pathologized as degenerate.
Idealism is the real chains. Everyone thinks themselves as demigods destined to "change the world". They think that their preferences in recreation and education should be mandated for posterity.
People are born into decent families with moderate morals and they still feel incomplete. They feel that they have to be some knight that needs to slay dragons.
Society guilt trips young men into war or religion or philosophy as some way to prove their worth.
Also, education is best when it's about actually tackling technical/practical issues.
Education has been dumped down into purely abstract subjects about "finding deeper meaning".
Academic figures think kids being taught how to cook, clean, or build things is abusive.
Not only that, education promotes toxic positivity.
It hates nuances and worldliness.
Individuality is treated like narcissism.
Everything has to be about team-building activities. Not allowed to disagree or have grey areas
I've read your other posts and you seem like a self absorbed lady who thinks himself too good for this world. Buddy I got news for you: abstract thinking is all good and well but it's not the same as having compassion and knowing how fix things.
>>731709>You complain about solipsism yet you shamelessly display and rationalize your own opinions as absolute fact with only anecdotesim not necessarily complaining about solipsism. the tendency to be self-centered is a completely natural and healthy human tendency for the most part. one should care about their own well-being. it becomes a problem however when oneself is all one knows. once you understand the dialectical method you understand that it is impossible to pretend that you or anybody else can exist separately from the rest of the world. we carry around with us an ego which compels us to center perception on ourselves, but this is only an illusion. consciousness expands limitlessly.
as for me saying my opinions are fact, well that's simply wrong. im not perfect and although i may sound passionate and decisive about what i say, it is after all just my viewpoint. im not writing a book on ethics here, im just ranting to strangers on an anonymous imageboard. im not trying to squeeze out of being held accountable to what i said, not at all, im happy to be criticized, but im just venting dude. we're all just here to hang out.
>>732016>power corrupts and nothing can stop that. here i am a bit of an anarchist only in the sense that i believe any kind of position of authority over others is inherently dangerous, but i dont know what the solution is.Power does not corrupt. It only reveals what you are. Same for weakness.
The real problem is that humans act like that evil is some inherent property of objects rather than of action.
Conservatives say "guns don't kill people, people kill people". Yet they will say "social media is evil".
Social media is treated like an idiopathic disease. It's not social media it's the people.
Before social media, people gossipped and fibbed and chased after fads.
If power corrupts it's because morality is a fundamental metaphysical force that exists in sapient living things.
A knife cannot be dangerous let alone exist without a human building it and wielding it.
>>731719>you're welcome anon (˶˃ᆺ˂˶)ebin :DD
>i think one-on-one messaging is potentially less safer than groupchats if your initial goal is integrating yourself into a group, but you could have a different threat model i suppose ¯\_(ヅ)_/¯groups themselves are threats to me because im afraid of groupthink and i have trauma relating to being singled out as a child, but you are correct in that they are much safer than trying to be friends with a single person. group dynamics also reveal more of who we really are because it's easy to lie and withhold information when it's one on one, and most of us tend to lie even unconsciously from time to time due to our own biases, but that's just how it is i suppose. all that being said im still willing to be in group chats even if i think they're lame, as long as the people seem cool.
>i feel the same, especially with more and more social media-type platforms requiring a kind of identity proof "to stop bots/ai scraping" (horseshit excuse for datamining, in practice).complete horseshit i hate it
>if image proof becomes mandatory, i've thought about using some kind of ai model to generate a realistic enough image of a human person to "represent myself"i believe something like this was done to bypass discord's image proof policy in the uk that was passed recently
>but there's the possible issue of compromising your own honesty towards other real people (since this is technically catfishing, and i suppose quite a lot of people are still somewhat sleeping on privacy issues) + in some cases this won't even pass since you're required to open your front camera and provide real-time proof on video (｡ᵕ ◞ _◟)>thankfully this is still somewhat far fetched in my conditions, i get by with an instant messenger to mostly interact with people i've already known irl and have no other social media i refuse to use any kind of online interaction platform where i am forced to provide any kind of identity verification. it's just bullshit. all of what you mentioned is what makes it just not worth it. all these hoops to jump through just to meet some people you might talk to once then never again.
>if you have a local venue, why no go to shows?i work weekends when all the shows are happening :( i figured if i did form a group i would try to ask for days off or maybe change schedules with someone but it would take time. as of now it's simply not practical even though i would love to go to more concerts.
>hardcore punk is supposed to be one of the more political genres, even if mostly full of libs or "aesthetic" enjoyers. putting up an ad actually sounds like a pretty good idea to me also ꒰ᐢ. .ᐢ꒱the best bands are the ones that dont take themselves too seriously. i just have a lot of anger i want to vent and ive loved punk since i was a kid. i want to write lyrics about how much i hate wage slavery and about my past girlfriends with bpd. due to a lot of bullshit i never was able to get into a band when i was younger but ive increasingly been feeling like i should do it before I get too old now that ive worked past my traumas.
>ngl i really think most people at shows like hxc think of themselves as elitists, or at least to be "trve" compared to "poseurs". true
>no one wants to be a "poseur" no matter how much internet-people proclaim "the death of cringe" this kind of attitude will probably persist irl for better or for worsepersonally i think a lot of it just has to do with sincerity. i try not to speak about things beyond my understanding, though i dont always succeed. i also think punk specifically has a much more laid back approach than say for instance black metal or death metal where sometimes people can take themselves a little too seriously. i never liked metal very much anyway, i still like my music to sound more musical and i think punk can be much more melodic than people think. whenever ive gone to metal concerts melody and composition always seemed like an afterthought to me compared to just the projection of raw sound and pressure. i know melodic metal exists but it doesn't seem very popular.
>do you only want to be friends with people that impress you in some way? most people are rather ordinary, or at least seem to be such if they're not the type to outwardly display their inclinations or straight up fish for attention i think we all want to have as friends people we admire or feel lucky to know, or who make us feel understood and appreciated, but i understand your point. many interesting people are smart enough to know that being ordinary is the best approach to take if you dont want to deal with bullshit from the in-group.
>i wouldn't be sure to call egoism a new phenomenon exactly, neologisms and specific terminology does seep into everyday speech but that's the default course of things. regarding us-american culture in particular being more egoistic than others, i suppose that's true however since it has been a dominant/hegemonic culture for quite some time it certainly had some effect on the rest of the world's cultures. personally i've mostly observed us culture worship in liberals, and for those that were not libs to begin with, excessive consumption of it did lead to liberal inclinationsit's nothing new to be self-centered, certainly, but at least we used to understand that it was something we should try to curb. tiktok and therapy culture has begun to say that we shouldn't have to do that. mass media used to hold up idols for us to worship, but now the camera is pointed at each of us so that we may become little idols for communities of people we've never met and never will meet. it's not at all uncommon for a young person to have an instagram/tiktok where they publicise their daily lives and thoughts as though it were some kind of independently produced truman show, only they're aware of their role and also act as their own producers. they interact with faceless people who leave comments for the star to upvote/heart but there is no human-to-human interaction, no interlocution happening, just a sort of constant throwing of bouquets and shouts of "we love you!" from adoring "fans", and this happens in very small scales. this is what i mean.
>the more i read about this (and similar observances with gen alpha children in other countries, albeit at smaller rates), the more it sounds like a parenting issue. parents leaving their kids glued to ipads instead of spending quality time with them and educating them, too for a multitude of reasons ranging from the child being unwanted/accidental in a nuclear family (meaning no extended family to spend time with the child and socialize them) that's simply not suited for raising children due to parents having 0 time/energy to actually raise them to simply parents being shit people in generalhow can a person know what is necessary to nurture a child's intellect when they are not even aware that there is a need for such a thing? my parents fed me, clothed me, made sure i wasn't causing trouble, and for them that was it. they saw their obligations to me as something more like a dog or a cat, rather than the realization that i one day had to become an independent contributor to society, that i potentially would be in a position to influence others or to have responsibility over them. this never entered their mind even once, and when i began to develop a mind that questioned their methods or lacktherof they simply saw this as childhood foolishness and found as the solution to beat my inquiries down with mockery under the pretense that i did not understand anything.
>this, in turn, puts more pressure on schoolteachers and other public workers, who are often grossly underpaid (in my region at least) with younger specialists trained in schooling just out of higher ed preferring to go into the private sector (online cram schools, tutoring, etc) en massein america teaching in public schools is practically a volunteer position
>>732032
No shit
ok coworker was nice to me today. no clue why. maybe im not a creep. YEAHHHHHHH
>>732031>groups themselves are threats to me because im afraid of groupthink and i have trauma relating to being singled out as a child, but you are correct in that they are much safer than trying to be friends with a single person. group dynamics also reveal more of who we really are because it's easy to lie and withhold information when it's one on one, and most of us tend to lie even unconsciously from time to time due to our own biases, but that's just how it is i suppose. all that being said im still willing to be in group chats even if i think they're lame, as long as the people seem cool.This is one thing I can definitely agree and sympathize with you on.
The worst thing that is done in childhood development especially nowadays is this obsession with "social skills" and forcing kids into group activities for the sake of "building them up".
Society has a serious problem with individuality, thinking it to be narcissistic.
Children are especially taught that they should enjoy being smothered and bothering others because "it's a normal part of childhood".
And then adults wonder why we have peer pressure.
Adults think kids wanting personal space or solitude is encouraging disrespect/stunted affection for their elders.
To the anon who makes copy pasta posts of Sex & Relationship Thread posts onto the off-topic board on Leftychan, please copy and paste
>>732044 with a sample video of a John Taylor Gatto speech
i like when girl turn around and rub their butt on my weewee when we are dancing in the club. that's heckin' epic!
I was probably always too ugly to fuck along with being extremely akward it was over before it began. Yeah I could've spent money on trying to get better looking and fix some o f the fixable things but what's the point if you can't engage with people. Plus that's a lot of lost money to acquire only temporary relief anyways and you may acquire more problems from relationships anyways. I really wish my parents had never procreated because their genetics just didn't seem that hot. I'm probably even worse than them. Fortunately I don't go out much otherwise I'd be seething even harder about tfw no girlfriend or whatever just from all the attractive females I would see out and about. I don't touching grass would help much and would probably hurt. I'm just coping I guess.
>>732212Or you should just stop caring and live life. You're way too serious about everything. What's lost is lost and you can just choose to make the best of it.
>>732032
HAVE SEX WITH ME
>>732212Touch grass where there aren't any or many people. You can't feel regret looking at a tree. It's the same as you, it just keeps living while the world spazzes out around it.
>>732212Kill yourself or find a way to cope.
>>731843>Most of us will die having sex but not the way we wantedTrvke. I've only once slept with a woman I actually desired, and it ended badly.
>>732477>I've only once slept with a woman I actually desired, and it ended badly.What happened?
>>732493She did not have a dick.
>>732493Already vented about it here. We hooked up a few times, and she decided I wasn't relationship material but kept leading me on.
>>732523Also this.
>>731585If you didn't party in your teens then don't worry, you didn't miss out on anything even if the grass seems greener on the other side. As a teen who tried partying/clubbing it's just jumping around and doing the same few dance moves for hours with popular music you've heard a thousand times on the radio edited to have more beats blasting at a deafening volume, even while drunk it feels retarded and boring to me.
>>732657>even while drunk it feels retarded and boring to me.Yeah, it‘s that way to *you*. It‘s subjective. Doing what you’ve described might be awesome to someone else. I also think that going on parties was that amazing (though it heavily depends on the social circle there, imo), but I wouldn‘t argue that it‘s boring because it was boring to me.
I was in a decent mood today until I had to use a webcam for work and I saw my disgusting bloated featureless face.
>>732657Most teens don't even get to have opportunities to party.
And especially nowadays with stranger danger, rape culture, and whatnot, teen parties are more like elementary school parties.
Or just a virtual hangout live stream with your pals
>>732657Anon, is it really that hard to believe that I fucking love dancing, sober or fucked up? If it's not for you that's okay, but I know I love it and regret not starting earlier especially when I could drink and not fuck over my sleep for it.
Should be obvious but I think single mothers are so desperate for a capable man they project expectations so hard onto any men, children included in the household that those children grow into men that dont have a concept of failing women. In short, women really don't like being disappointed by men.
I had a nephew that lived with us who was raised by a single mother in Mexico. He came to live in California when he was in the 10th grade and he definitely knew how to please women. He would buy gifts for all his immediate female relatives in Mexico. I saw him impress girls here in California with his ability to buy gifts for women. I swear one time he had these girls practically at his fingertips at an outlet store while buying gifts for his aunts and cousins. I was in awe honestly.
patriarchy creates incels
Samefag thread
>muh men raised by single moms
>Players vs non players.
OP is a retard.
Men who grow up with single moms have to deal with society pathologizing them for any flaw or nuance just because they don't have an adult male hanging around them at home in their formative years.
>>732967Got any source for that or is this just your opinion based on vibes?
how to stop thinking about her
>>733033It’s completely normal to constantly think about Jadey, my rod is always out for her amen
>>732967Mothers are soft on their sons especially when they get bigger, so they manifest more antisocial tendencies which is perceived as 'cool' because they got no father figure to put them in order.
>>733067Reasonable theory. However, every guy I knew who was like this also just had higher social intelligence when it comes to women and had a neck for flirting. I would say in a two parent household a son is more inclined to spend more time with their father, meanwhile a guy of a single mother spends all of that family time with their mother. That may get them more in tune with socializing with women and getting a better grasp of pushing women‘s buttons.
when i was young i couldn't understand women at all, or what they wanted, and due to my experience with my insane mother and less insane sisters i felt that women were all inherently crazy and liable to go off at a moment's notice, not desiring anything but the craving to satiate their hunger for social conflict and anything that facilitated social positioning. when i moved out at 19 the healing process began but i still couldn't get laid and ended up losing my virginity to a hooker when i was 23 or so. i never had any female friends except for one or two acquaintances from high school whom i didn't really hang out with much because i was a hikki. anyway, im basically a completely different person now many years later and ive had short lived relationships with 3 women. now my trauma is healed and i perceive women in a healthy way. im a good conversationalist, and i can be funny, and i have a good attitude, and i smell okay, and i dress well, and i have an ok job so naturally i get my fair share of female attention now. would i call myself a player? well, in practice, no. however, experiencing first hand the "guts" of women as a child has led to peculiar insights as an adult. what women present to us no longer baffles me because i can see the engine that motivates all the games they play. i know what women like now, and as a result i play that game with them and tend to lead them on even when i dont mean to. i have high standards even though im not particularly physically attractive because many women just tend to approach me or try to make conversation when im minding my own business, even women much younger than me tend to crush on me in the right circumstances. so i guess i am somewhat of a player in some ways. i reject most women because even though i find them good enough to sleep with i dont want to hurt them, and i would rather wait for the right one. that's just my personal experience as a son of a single mother who never remarried.
Older women when they get vulnerable are the cutest thing ever
>>733104What the fuck is with the belly button?
Nobody is pettier and more prone to ghosting over minor disagreements than whimsical millennials who call their friends their "found family"
>>733137Thank you for like and retweet kind stranger.
>>733137Ghosting is based.
>>733139>coward>insecure attachment stylengmi
>>733139I apologized to the woman I ghosted twice and found out she was married now with a kid on the way. She said to reach out if I ever needed a friend, feels like I dodged a bullet not staying with her, but I feel bad for how I treated her. Lost her contact info when my phone died.
>>733137personally i think ghosting is natural and necessary because we are very far removed from the environment where human social relations developed. prior to industrial society and the rise of the urban proletariat relationships were mostly formed within small agrarian/hunter gatherer communities or within small groups like the aristocracy. in both settings there were political conditions to be considered (we don't like their family so you can't marry that person, etc.) alongside romance and the formation of relationships. people were more likely to find good matches because you had the wisdom of the entire community to know who and who would be good couples together.
industrial society slowly degraded this process to today where it's complete anarchy, with no way of vetting someone outside of spending lots of time together in a work environment or somewhere outside the home, and even then you don't have the help of the group because people largely mind their own business (except women who continue to gossip about everything but with much less verfied information and trust than we used to have). we don't want to spend any time with strangers if we don't like them, aside from physical looks or maybe a shared interest on particular obscure subjects it's just too big an investment to make on a random person, and even on the latter we would rather just get together on anonymous tibetan jigsaw puzzle enthusiasts websites to converse at our convenience.
this is why lookism has seemed to pervade every corner of the internet so much even though human beings aren't really so concerned with looks as we think we are. the only people who can reliably get laid with people they like are people who look good on a social media profile, and even then they constantly complain about ghosting because it isn't until much later when you've gotten over the looks or the initial romance that they realize they aren't compatible with this person at all, hence the ghosting phenomenon. there's just no point in investing effort into a person you're lukewarm about when you know there's millions more you can swipe through, chasing the dream that your perfect partner will show up one day.
>>733086This is all a stereotype that's promoted in media.
Most men raised by single moms are no different from.tbose that aren't.
>>733067Also a stereotype.
Irony is, a lot of antisocial men had their dad's in their lives but the dads were abusive, dismissive, or permissive.
Society pathologizes men for getting any platonic affection from women.
Yet , nobody ever gets upset with women getting platonic affection from fathers.
>>732967Why do imageboard users always come up with the most shallow pop psychology theories?
I'm Jordanian, I had this long distance relationship with this Filipina girl for a year now,
She holds chuddy opinions but also a genuine personality and one of the prettiest girls I have seen (weirdly looks like a girl from here)
For the past year we almost talked daily, though since the beginning I strongly pushed her to agree on an open relationship that we can dip out from whenever we find the right person irl since I loved her enough to be plain with her that us meeting would be almost impossible considering the distance (10k kilos) and our financial situation. She reluctantly agreed and ostensibly dropped demanding an extremely serious relationship. All was going well until we had an awkward phone call when she was drunk, she was shy for the next day then I had something come up and we stopped talking, I texted her weeks later and she was uncharacteristically dismissive, then a month goes by and she deletes her account. I thought she finally found someone and I was somewhat happy for her as I didn't want to burden her knowing how improbable it is for us to meet. I knew her full name, number and public accounts so I checked on her recently (months later) and she is apparently still single.
It's funny we both think we look too good for each others and she is extremely possessive and accused me of cheating many times which I of course denied.
Out of curiosity I looked into the best possible route we could theoretically meet and it would cost me about 3x my monthly wage (her expanses would be much less) it isn't a doomed prospect as I initially thought.
Now I'm thinking that it is possible we could meet but what would few weeks in a foreign country real achieve for us? Yes we could finally touch, kiss, hang out, etc. But beyond that… probably only memories that we won't look back on too fondly.
IDK should I leave our year worth of texting as water under the bridge? I was relieved to no longer feel guilty getting her attached to me but I suddenly wanna do that x1000
If meet, what then?
Maybe I've been away from irl dating (and in general) that it's fucking with my brain, or maybe it's just "love"
>>731797
Self hating brown hands typed this post
>>731797
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>>733257BBC BNWO great replacement typed this post.
>>733305sometimes i wonder if most people are suffering through social life just for pussy/dick. its all too theatrical and fake, i dont believe that anyone actually enjoys it
>>733330Nope. Its only a few pathological people who are like that.
>>733305>what do you do if you only like sex but not having a social life?This is genuinely the only meaningful purpose of "dating" apps.
I honestly can’t even remember the last time I enjoyed sex with a hooker, yet I keep doing it. It especially pisses me off when the hooker shows up 10lbs bigger than her deceptive pictures online. I don’t know if that’s worse, or when they’re clearly older.
>>733315What does this mean?
>>733345You're a rapist
>>733333Would you count going to nightclubs only because I want to get laid as pathological? I hate the music, I don't like the people, but they are attractive.
I wish hoe_math wasn't a retarded photocopy of an archetypal internet chudcel
he's got something going for him in his videos that try to educate men on how attraction works, but you have to purposefully ignore the trash politics he tries to shoehorn in every 30 seconds
>>733350
It‘s not true consent.
>>733438What is true consent?
>>733439Ask yo mama after I'm done w her
>>733439It isn‘t paying a woman in a financially desperate situation to have sex with her.
>>733348I can fuck you (non-consensually) if you want
>>733330there are genuine extroverts anon, I'm just not one of them and I'm tired of pretending
>>733427>Would you count going to nightclubs only because I want to get laid as pathological?Does it work?
>>733450you can say prostitution is shitty without having to equate it to literal rape you know lol
self admitted rapist above
>>733450>>733471All employment is rape. We are all raped multiple times a week by our employer. We must rape them back. Walk in, rape everyone, leave. Rape. Everything is rape. The Rape Union. The United Rapes of Rape. The Rape Federation. RapeMart.
This is how you sound, will you shut the fuck up man?
The wage laborer gives up the same level of bodily autonomy and human dignity as the sex worker I'm very smart
>>733486No one here is attractive and we're mostly boring and maladjusted at least by your standards. And I have a feeling you may be a dude pretending to be a chick. Maybe I'm wrong but it doesn't matter you probably won't find what you want here.
>>733491Untrue, got you to read and reply to my bullshit B-) get gurlpwned
>>733491Also I'm really not that picky about looks I've dated some ugly and average ass guys. What really counts is how eager they are to please me (in a not-that-submissive way)
I'm ugly and boring
>>733495One of those can be changed. Just go under the knife.
>>733486>>733486>Honestly all I want recently is some guy to cuddle with and fuck and give bjs to all the time. I feel like a coomerbrained idiot all I do is work out, and get stoned, work, sleep, masturbate repeat. I wanna find a sweet guy who will satisfy me sexually and not be lazy and apathetic in bed like most men. Yeah that's lame. I always felt like sex is more for women tbh. I never got guys complaining a woman is a "deadfish" in bed. That's no problem for me. For one I never wasn't able to turn a woman out no matter how timid or inexperienced they were.
>I went on a date last weekend from reddit (please laugh at and mock me it's fine) and he was so ugly and boring, does anyone have any passion or desire anymore holy cow… Sorry for ranting. Wish one of you was cute and sweet and nearby me so we could shut up two whiners on this thread at once lmao,,Where you at? I don't whine in this thread tho.
>>733503new england. It's cold and sad right now plz help.
with my most recent bf he really seemed to phone it in during sex a lot, like he wasn't even conciously there 100% of the time. for instance, he tried to rub my clit while we had sex which I really hate and I told him it does nothing for me but he kept doing it absentmindedly anyway as though his previous partners enjoyed it and he was just on autopilot. I feel like a lot of men are like this..they spend so much time trying to get laid but just go at it like they're scrolling on their gd phone the whole time. where's the conscious mindful enjoyment of every moment??
>>733503>Yeah that's lame. I always felt like sex is more for women tbh. I never got guys complaining a woman is a "deadfish" in bed. That's no problem for me. For one I never wasn't able to turn a woman out no matter how timid or inexperienced they wereReally? I thought it was the opposite?
>>733512you're likely ugly or just average (which is ugly in the internet age anyways)
that other anon you're replying to may be either attractive or too socially unaware to tell if the girl is faking it or not lol
>>733504It's not for enjoyment, it's a performance. You gotta lock in.
>>733516>or too socially unaware to tell if the girl is faking it or not lolNah. I got girls that wouldn't let me take off their pants dry humping me before. I deflowered this virgin who was too tight to put it in right away but by the time we were done she was throwing it back at me in doggystyle and clapping those cheeks. Women hump like crazy when they're into it. I mean I don't have to tell them to do shit even, it's instinctive.
>that other anon you're replying to may be either attractiveIt is true, but like you could also improve your technique. I mean actually it should be instinctive for you as well. It feels weird to me that you would have to have instruction to please a woman. I think a big part of sex is just making the other person feel attractive and desired, if you can make them feel that, that's all tgere is to it really.
>>733519Sex is instinctive but being good at sex isn‘t instinctive. Otherwise there wouldn‘t be so many women complaining about men being bad at sex, and obviously it‘s something you learn and get better at over time.
>>733486>Wish one of you was cute and sweet and nearby me so we could shut up two whiners on this thread at once lmao,,I can sense the urgency and I am compelled to fuck your brains out, but I am on the other end of the globe. Sorry, Alunya poster.
I think people being bad at sex falls into two categories, the mental hangups like I said or the second category where they are having sex with people they find so unnatractive they can't even trick themselves into thinking their partner is attractive for one copulation session. I think they just do it to be able to factually say they had sex. I don't understand that shit personally. I couldn't do it. I'm kinda a man slut tho so I find a broad range of women attractive enough. Especially if they got an agreeable personality. I personally next a woman as soon as she starts pissing me off, shit testing, playing games whatever. I could never "hate fuck" someone.
>>733529But to be honest, I had to learn that the hard way. It doesn't get better, if she fucked you over once, she is going to do it again. Drop that shit at the first sign.
>>733524>>733526>>733529Good sex is mostly psychological.
>t. fucks a lot of hookers (and hates it most of the time) >>733532>pay to do something he hates???
>>733504>new england. It's cold and sad right now plz help. I'm not in New England unfortunately but I am in America and I have money and travel. Never been to New England besides Boston.
You ccan contact me at:
[email protected]An email I made for a long abandoned project.
I think I know who you are too lol. We kinda known each other for years.
>>733535Dealing with mental illness and chasing a high I’ve long past
>>733529I have good sex with women who are enthusiastic and bad sex with dead fish
>>733543
>but every time I was like, FUCKKK if only I had acid.
I meant the opposite but it works both ways.
>>733550Shoulda stopped listening at an earlier point.
>>733486No, you stay miserable like me :)
>>733458Of course not. I'm too ugly, but I lack the courage to give up.
>>733569She is a catch. She got a paid off house she inherited if I recall.
She should husband up that 20 yo guy she is creeping on. You can make it work you.
>>733575
What a freakoid
>>733585
There are, but they won't sticking around for a needy codependent "relationship" with (you)
>>733486>Wish one of you was cute and sweet and nearbyLondon? You've really got winter cuddle fever bad huh. If you were nearby I'd go on a date you seem like a genuinely nice person and just the right level of unhinged to be interesting
>>733540So glad I don't pay for pussy, spending time single just makes it more fun when it finally comes through. If I just dropped a few hundred bucks when I was craving it I can't imagine it would be as fun, and also wouldn't be raw for obvious reasons.
>>733612
Yes. As someone who's fucked a lot of hookers, I don't really care at this point.
>>733615
>>733616
I regret not accepting this hooker I fucked who liked me a lot. In retrospect, it was obvious but I was convinced she was playing a long game
>>733528:((((((((( damn you sound great, how sad…
>>733536oh god lol that's embarrassing lmao idk if I wanna email you if you know who I am so we'll see if I'll end up doing that haha
>>733532you are 1000000% correct on this it's so completely and totally true. 98% of sex happens outside of the bedroom and far before any penetration happens.
>>733554actually my issue is that I really wanna be a slut but I can't seem to bring myself to do it so I stay on here and shitpost about how horny and sad I am :) I was waaay more pathetic than u even thought hehe :)
>>733619
She wasn't but I don't feel like spilling my life story
>>733569god damn u got me :(
>>733572I bought a condo with my coding bux it's bretty nice for sure,
>>733574>>733575god I am so honored you guys remembered this about me. I'm still creeping on my little autist buddy, we are gonna go play some mini golf this weekend :D
>>733580fucking true honestl;y
>>733584what does this mean?
>>733591
>she's gone through a dozen guys in the last year
oh my god I wish :'( this is my problem!!! I've only had sex with one person this year, I had to wait 4 months long enough to find someone who was bf material and let down my guard and trust him, and it ended up sucking!!! you literally can't win.
>>733592>but none of them want to stick aroundI've only sucked off two guys since my divorce 6 years ago and I left each of them for various reasons. :\ I don't think I've ever been dumped now that I think about it. so yeah I guess my issue is just picking the wrong guys over and over. mostly due to low self esteem and not thinking I can do or deserve better.
>>733593that's so sweet <3 and yes I do have that bad :( </3
>>733632
>I mean, maybe you can't.
you're probably right… :\
I'm starting to think it wouldn't be a bad idea to just outright ban sex. It'll probably hurt some of you not me though I was never going to do it. Of course it'll never happen. It's just a pipe dream really
>>733651
>There are a lot of good women out there
Where?
>>733663Outside of your basement.
im so grateful to all the women that dont attention whore on anonymous imageboards and all the men who don't pay them any mind
>>733680
Oh shit, it's her?
>>733581
Wrong.
Straight women experience pain but not the same kind of pain as straight men.
Blame chivalry.
>>733686
If you are a true commie free of bourgeois sexual morality you WILL send a video of you two fucking. Make sure to do it in mating press position and film it from behind.
>>733680
Bee?
>>733703
Wasn't she homeless the last time she posted? But I remember her having a pretty sweet dog plushie.
>>733713
>I remember that she inherited a house. I don't care about that tho
I would care so much.
I won't have to worry about mortgage
>>733724
Sigh….
You disappoint me.
You disregard potential habitational prospects because a woman is beautiful.
But if she wasn't, you wouldn't even spit in her direction?
>>733724
Mods, ban this anon for doxxing or whatever. Permaban even.
>>733727
>I mean, I wouldn't count on it. I'm not a mooch either. It's just not a mental paradigm for me as a man.
But if it was a man offering you free rent, you'd have no problem with that, right?
>It is what it is. Would you marry a thalidomide woman?
Wtf is thalidomide?
Also why would I want to marry in general?
I would lose out on my piece of mind and walking freely in my underwear. And I would have to worry about my money being laundered.
Or having to deal with undesirables just because they're from her social circle.
>>733516>Average is ugly in the Internet AgeI beg to differ.
Beauty standards were more harsh in the past, especially for upper class folk.
It's just nowadays everyone wants to be adored for being "unique" and get pissy when there's no roaring applause for them.
>>733731
Mods, he is right here! Do it now!
>>733737the thing with the internet age and beauty standards is not exactly about standards. The issue is the parasocial reality that make people feel there are loads of very attractive people at an arm's reach.
>>733249Sir you just asked for relationship advice in a thread about bobs and vegine
>>733305Tinder helped me with that.
>>733249Iono. Seems like something to discuss with her.
where did all the posts go
>>733807I think the mods are deleting anything that goes against the rules especially stuff they regard as incelish.
>>733305Same.
As for what to do, consider becoming homosexual or transsexual. Some kind of -sexual other than hetero moid.
>>733809>I think the mods are deleting anything that goes against the rules especially stuff they regard as incelish.I think the incels are in the mod team 😮
>>733679>im so grateful to all the women that dont attention whore on anonymous imageboards and all the men who don't pay them any mindIsn't everyone attention whoring here? This is the thread to blog about your life and lack of sex and shit.
We need to build bridges between the incel and femcel communities.
>>733812I think one of the mods stated in a different thread they were going to be more strict on incel posting. Personally I've been banned a couple times already for my posts and I didn't think they were the worst I've personally posted or that I've seen. But it's whatever I'll keep coming back.
>>733819>I think one of the mods stated in a different thread they were going to be more strict on incel posting. Personally I've been banned a couple times already for my posts and I didn't think they were the worst I've personally posted or that I've seen. But it's whatever I'll keep coming back."Incel" posting is just code word for muh soggy knees, but they're too cowardly to say that for some reason. Literally this whole thread is 90% incel/femcel posts. I mean 90% literally complaining about not being able to get sex or satisfying sex in the case of like hooker fucker and some others. Literally the definition of involuntary celibacy posting.
>>733822And like if anyone know too, like if you worked with men and shit know that married men, men that fuck around a lot, are probably like the biggest misogynists out there. I really don't know what the point of trying to conflate misogyny with "inceldom." Another ironic thing is that only incels use the term incel lmao. It's not like an actually recognized identity or
>Incel posts are banned site wide (i.e. incel talking points and making 9999 threads complaining about women, saying all women are bourgeoise/sluts/etc.) - per modocracy vote passed on 2025-01-02So for sure, all these dudes, and former dudes are incels themselves.
>>733831>So for sure, all these dudes, and former dudes are incels themselves.Moderators in shambles
>>733832>Moderators in shamblesThey were before the post.
>Sex and Relationships General #55
Why don't we just ban this entire subject? Has anything good ever come out of it here? We eventually have seemed to have banned porn completely. I'm not sure if that's an official rule or something, but I think it has improved the quality of the board. There was no point having the porn threads here nothing good ever came out of it and it just spawned endless arguments. Same with this bullshit.
>>733836You can't have sex or a relationship with a polygon anon.
>>733838>They forgo the warm embrace of another human being so they can fully devote themselves to leftypol.org(-__-)7
>>733835That guy may get to bang the cat chick or bee or whatever her name. That's something
So I got out of an LTR a while ago and have started dating for the first time in about 10 years, and I'm kinda shocked at how low the bar is for a lot of people. I've dated a few different people over the last few months and here are some of the things that I've gotten praise for so far:
>not getting upset when somebody doesn't want to have sex
>using a condom when asked
>getting an STI test when asked
>talking about sexual preferences beforehand and obtaining consent before doing something
>checking in on people when I know they're having a bad day
>showing concern for my partner/date's wellbeing and feelings
>not ghosting people
>talking about issues instead of being passive-aggressive or ignoring them
>having actual conversations with people before and after I have sex with them
Is the dating pool really packed with so many cretinous assholes that these things are seen as extraordinary?
you guys have it good, i have some sort of congenital issue in my bladder which makes cumming unpleasurable at best, and uncomfortable at worst. sex is ruined for me. what kind of *cel is that, i'm unable to get satisfying orgasms using my own fucking hand, i'm being cucked by my own body. lol.
>>733846Sounds like you should just develop an orgasm denial fetish and find a gay top or femdom who will peg you (depending on your preference).
>>733847That's a good idea.
>>733846Yeah, have you ever orgasmed from prostate stimulation?
>>733845I think most people just need a sex doll or something
>>733845You must be attractive, white, and rich. I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
>>733846Trve incel I guess.
>>733845 I date women only but.
>not getting upset when somebody doesn't want to have sexCan't really say I saw it before
>using a condom when askedObviously doesn't apply
>getting an STI test when askedLotta women are weird about that too.
>talking about sexual preferences beforehand A lot of people find it a mood killer
>and obtaining consent before doing somethingDoesn't usually apply to women.
>checking in on people when I know they're having a bad dayLol. Lmao. I can't picture a woman doing such a thing.
>showing concern for my partner/date's wellbeing and feelingsSame as above for the most part.
>not ghosting peopleOh my god do they ghost. I think any man who ever tried online dating has probably been ghosted dozens of times. They justify it as being sht.
>talking about issues instead of being passive-aggressive or ignoring themLol, lmao
>having actual conversations with people before and after I have sex with themThey do love to talk, no one can deny that.
>Is the dating pool really packed with so many cretinous assholes that these things are seen as extraordinary?So have you never encountered any of those behaviors from your dates?
>>733845>Is the dating pool really packed with so many cretinous assholes that these things are seen as extraordinary?Yes.and you have learned it from first-hand experience, of course it's going to be different from the misogynistic fairy tales of those who had never touched grass
>>733860What does that even mean?
>>733862touching grass? that's going outside and talking to real people
>>733863Huh? Are you playing dumb?
I don't care because they won't date me so they deserve it
>>733864projecting much? otherwise explain what part of my post you didn't understand
>>733868>projecting much? No, you're being willfully obtuse.
What is the misogynistic fairy tale that the post is deboonking? How is it deboonking it?
>>733869the dating pool situation, that poster experienced it first-hand and their reported experience is the direct opposite of what self proclaimed "incels" commonly describe
>the bar in dating is sooooo high today! <i got praised multiple times for common decency and basic human respect, why is that? >>733858>So have you never encountered any of those behaviors from your dates?One guy ghosted me after we fucked once but he lived a few hours away (I was in his town for a job interview) so I kinda understood him losing interest.
>>733871>One guy ghosted me after we fucked once but he lived a few hours away (I was in his town for a job interview) so I kinda understood him losing interest.Oh lmao. Look how much you riled up this guy making him think you were talking about dating women:
>>733860>and you have learned it from first-hand experience, of course it's going to be different from the misogynistic fairy tales of those who had never touched grass >>733872have you skipped your meds today? how the fuck are these two related
TOUCH GRASS! INCEL! MISOGYNY!
What if touching grass makes you more of an incel ? You ever think about that. Maybe some people should touch less grass.
>>733873>have you skipped your meds today? how the fuck are these two relatedDo you understand how replies work?
>>733858I greentexted this post:
>>733845>Is the dating pool really packed with so many cretinous assholes that these things are seen as extraordinary?Then asked:
<So have you never encountered any of those behaviors from your dates?Then the guy answered and said he's talking about dating men.
>have you skipped your meds today?The projection. Jesus Christ calm down dude. And do you have a girlfriend BTW?
>>733875"Touch grass" sounds like something someone without a job would say.
>>733876>Then the guy answered and said he's talking about dating men.<Do you understand how replies work?i do, that's why i don't immediately suppose they're the same person as original like you did
>>733878Why are you assuming the other guy was talking about dating women?
I can feel this guy seething through the screen lmao. I'm about to touch grass to the store right now lol.
>>733872Tbh I was thinking more along the lines of how low the bar is for men. If gay men are behaving in such a way that basic manners and decency is considered extraordinary kindness than I can't imagine what the hetero moids are up to. Besides I'm bisexual so I'm sure I'll see what it's like with women eventually too. I just tend to date guys more often because it's a lot easier to get laid.
>>733870Those two things are not exclusive. What incels talk about is standards in terms of looks and wealth. Incel stuff is very insidious because it basically robs men of agency in its boundaries and puts them on the defensive. It is very reasonable that looks do play a big role in relationships and that women's expectations are much higher now that they can survive without relying on a man and are actually more successful than men in the younger than 30 cohort. But because an incel is a powerless victim in his mind, he can't just put himself into women's shoes and shrug "oh ok, makes sense". And many people really want to "debunk" their victim complex by saying that no, you just have to not be a piece of shit when that's obviously not true.
>>733894>And many people really want to "debunk" their victim complex by saying that no, you just have to not be a piece of shit when that's obviously not true.Why don't they just try not being unfuckable worthless human beings?
>>733895Because that's usually not under your control? You can't grow taller as an adult or unbald yourself. Even losing weight takes many months or even years. Most people just aren't hot, women included.
>>733897>Most people just aren't hot, women included.Yeah, and maybe just like the men, most of them aren't particularly good people or have basic manners or decency.
>>733898sorry comrade, we took all the hoes from this board for the purposes of solving /leftypol/'s food supply problem through establishing farming cooperatives
i get so sleepy and antisocial when i dont have coffee. i dont wanna talk to anybody today
>>733898Do most women think like this? I imagine yes but I wouldn't really know
>>733908Yes, women do think like this. Women use these social heuristics all the time to get a grasp on a guy. Doesn‘t mean it‘s impossible to get any girl when you‘re hoe-less though.
>>733910>Doesn‘t mean it‘s impossible to get any girl when you‘re hoe-less though.You just got to get yourself a starter hoe.
>>733898She‘s saying that looking like that. A guy‘s social status wouldn‘t go up by much if she was one of his hoes.
>>733912She's realizing she is the starter hoe.
>>733914Is this the starter hoe you guys are talking about?
>>733915no,it's the wood hoe,that one is coearly an iron hoe,that's above stone
>>733921>Was I impolite? Was that joke alright?>I just want to seem like a normal guy>You know how it's like, try to see my side>You're a cinephile, I watch Family Guy>On a Friday night, off a rogue website>When I should be out with some friends of mine>Running reckless wild in the streets at night>Singing "Life, oh, life, " with our arms out wideSounds like he needs to touch grass.
>>733845Be attractive, don't be unattractive. You're probably just hot. If an ugly guy did this it'd give girls the ick and they'd complain he was a people pleaser and a doormat.
Randomly thinking about this girl I hooked up with and ghosted, then when I reached out to apologize years later she said something to the effect of "feel free to reach out if you ever need a friend ;)" even though she'd gotten married and had a kid on the way. I feel kinda bad for her hubby because it seemed a little flirty to me, and inappropriate to entertain keeping in touch with old hookups beyond a short "thanks for apologizing". Ngl, I would have been happy to cuck him at the time, but things got serious with my now gf around the same time.
>>733845When I hear stories of women's bad experiences dating it's honestly difficult not to judge them for entertaining slimeballs and feel a little worse that I'm bucketed in the same "good enough to fuck" as those guys.
>>733845The bar is that low. I‘ve been called a gentleman several times for banal things, like going on restaurant dates (not even a fancy restaurant) or walking girls back home at night.
>>733908>>733910I've noticed every women who's every been interested in me has assumed I had many prospects and joked about my other women. At this point, if a girl casually mentions me having other women, I think it's a safe bet to ask her out.
>>733929Top tier Asian phenotype but this girl is guaranteed to be mentally ill
Forget dating, does anyone find their friends and family take like years to respond to text messages? Honestly I don't have the patience for this shit anymore. Just going to start just messaging people on the holidays and shit.
Also I notice most all of them will never message me first, but when I contact them they act like they're happy to speak with me and missed me or whatever. One guy was even like "you need to call more!" or some shit. I don't get it.
>>733940I mean so many times weird shit like that. I've even ran into people I'm certain had my contact info and they're like "ANON! OMG! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?" Like I was walking on the main blvd in our town and he was driving in the car with his friend and he was hanging out the passenger window trying to have a conversation with me as I walked down the street.
I had one friend I contacted on facebook after a few years out of school and he also did the "Wow anon! It's been so long! Remember this this and that thing we did, then like after 4-5 back and forths I was left with the last message and that was the end of that.
I mean the obvious explanation is they just don't like talking to me that much, but I've had so many of these weird experiences where they were acting like I ghosted them or something. Like I can scroll up and see the last message in the conversation was me asking a question and getting no response 2 years ago lol.
>>733941>I mean so many times weird shit like that. I've even ran into people I'm certain had my contact info and they're like "ANON! OMG! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?" Like I was walking on the main blvd in our town and he was driving in the car with his friend and he was hanging out the passenger window trying to have a conversation with me as I walked down the street.Like it can't just be about being polite, like this guy, I just decided I was done with him after I noticed I'm practically inviting myself along to things and of course the never contacting me of his own volition, so I was like, "ok, hey dude, good to see you(maybe you should continue driving at the speed limit and get out of my face.)" Like practically harassing me and catcalling me lol and I was damn near ignoring him.
>>733944>>733941>>733940The responses to this subject on reddit or crazy lol. Everyone writing text replies to explain why they're too tired to text anyone back that they know personally. Huh? So the general theme I'm seeing is that when people are in their freetime, they just want to spend it shouting into the void answering questions on reddit threads and stuff.
Very interesting, they talk about the loneliness epidemic and shit and everyone is just choosing to live that way.
>It's so hard to meet people…Meanwhile they're ducking from like a dozen conversations at any given time lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ask/comments/1mi9cy5/why_do_some_people_take_so_long_to_reply_to/https://www.reddit.com/r/rant/comments/12h8okh/people_who_take_so_long_to_reply_to_texts_why/https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualConversation/comments/tsieaz/are_you_a_person_whos_taking_days_to_reply_to_a/ >>733944Was he hanging out the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to holla at you? Sounds like a scrub.
I'm starting to think that the only possible extent of relationships in the modern age is just one good trauma dump and then that's that.
>>733950>Was he hanging out the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to holla at you? Sounds like a scrub.I don't want no scrubs. Noooo scruuuuubbbss.
>>733951every mf going on about their traumas nowadays. a partner is not a method of healing
Maybe because I'm not into pop culture and stuff so much anymore. Then of course you have to be into the same kind of stuff of course, but I don't even watch TV or Movies anymore really. I often forget what is in them when I do and often don't even finish a season. Very occasionally play games, but not the new COD or Overwatch or whatever is hot. I never was into following sports.
I guess that just leaves being a news junkie really which is the main reason I end up coming back to this website. I can talk about it a little with my parents, but me and my brother usually end up talking for a few hours every week or too, mostly the news stuff besides whatever personal stuff.
>>733953My niece even showed me she had me labeled in her phone as "Free-Therapy Anon." I don't mind so much, I'm used to it, and I guess I like being helpful. I remember my first ever roommate after I moved out, on the very first night we were hanging out after I moved in he told me about how he was molested by his Rabbi and a bunch of other wild shit. I ended up giving my notice after the first month because it was so awkward living with this broken man, outside of that wild shit he told me that time. But he was still kind of nice, he gave me this screen print he made when I left. But anyways, probably one of the last times I was hanging out with him before moving out, I asked him "like why did you tell me all that shit the first time we hung out?" And he said "I dunno, you just seemed trustworthy" or something like that.
>>733907I'm currently banging a guy who has an OF and a thirst trap twitter. So far it hasn't really come up much though he did say he wants to shoot some content of me porking him.
>>733957I got out of my shell by becoming the free therapist to a friend group. At first I felt like I was being really helpful and supportive, now they've all just come to expect me to be available at any time to listen to them cry about their exes and if I'm not they'll get pissy and give me the cold shoulder for a few days to punish me. It's very unhealthy and I'm trying to fade the whole group. Sucks I'm going to have to go back to being a shut-in but at this point it's less emotionally draining than being a therapist.
>>733961People seem to just want to use others. I think most people in any kind of relationship just want to give as little as possible to receive the most as possible. Reading all your guys travails with any sort of relationships makes me feel more grateful for generally being an asocial friendless recluse.
>>733968That's kinda my philosophy that we just exist to be used anyways. What else is purpose? Purpose only exists in usefulness.
>>733953>>733951Even as a child, I've noticed that most romantic relationships seem to be a grotesque parody of sibling rivalry or toxic parent-child relations.
>>733845It's also that people are unable to appreciate any general salutational amenities unless it's televised in their faces.
>>733977Eww thats so weird.
Lmao >>733840>That guy may get to bang the cat chick or bee or whatever her name. That's somethingShe is like all women, she won't respond to me. I doubt she will come back to this thread for awhile. All of a sudden she is shy.
>>733983Lady be posting about how all shevwants to do is suck dick, now she shy.
>>733983>she will come back to this thread for awhile.*won't
>>733908No woman wants to be with a man no woman wants to be with.
>>733882The bar isn’t low for men
It’s just that society likes to pathologize men more for any slight
Women can also behave like that and do so but they’re more sympathized
>>732872Dancing is only seen as comic relief to attract girls unfortunately
>>734065True, I blame "go to dance class sweaty" as out of touch advice to guys on meeting women as responsible. The women at dances to meet guys are there to meet guys who genuinely like dancing. Faking a hobby to meet girls gives off desperation. I've seen it first hand where a guy agreed to go out dancing only because he thought he would meet girls. He wasn't terrible and had obviously practiced at home, but he didn't look like he was having fun at all, and his advances towards women were so cringey trying to talk over the loud ass Techno instead of just dancing with them. In the end he crashed out about it and never went out with us again. Apparently he now goes to swing dance class, but I doubt they give him the time of day any more than the alt baddies did.
>>733882The behaviour of gay men you describe is mostly due to abundance of sexual opportunities, they dont have to act nice because they can instantly replace you, a position more similar to hetero women than hetero men.
>>734123The attractive gay men, you mean.
Most gay men are plain looking and often are just as dry and desperate as their cisheterosexual male counterparts.
>>734122>The women at dances to meet guys are there to meet guys who genuinely like dancing. Faking a hobby to meet girls gives off desperationThe women who join hobby clubs to seek out talented hot guys within the respective art&craft are just as much to blame. If there were no hot guys joining in, they probably wouldn't care about dancing as much.
>>734128I have nothing to go on other than internet and two gay guys I know IRL, but in terms of sex life they are doing far better than they ever could hope to if they were straight.
>>734135Getting laid as a gay guy is much easier but if you're not particularly attractive you're going to be relegated to fucking other uggos.
t. Bifag
>>734154I can't even pretend this would happen to me. But if I'm going to pretend probably walk away because I'd be too scared to engage them further. Maybe say something incomprehensible before leaving.
>>734155geniunly why do you sound so scared of the smallest social interaction? unattractive or afraid people would take advantage of you somehow? i'd understand if either
Genuine question to everyone in the know here. Are homosexual sex dynamics the truest presentation of male and female sexuality unmediated by the patriarchy, or are gay guys and lesbian women still influenced by the patriarchy when it comes to dating, sex and relationships?
>>734160Only if men have as much choice as women. That will never happen under any system in the future or present.
>>733908yes can confirm. it's always mildly suspicious if a guy doesn't have female friends or ex gf orbiters w/e, but if he truly doesn't have any and he's actually 100% single and *I* genuinely really like him, that's like a unicorn ideal guy for me. I like being the only woman that supplies him with feminine energy,, I can't stand a guy with tons of hoes, fuck that, I don't want to compete.
>>733845yes, but it's a learned life skill to filter those types of scumbag guys out long before they are allowed to even hug you. I'd say that's about 75% - 85% of single (hetero) men. the bar is really low, and women don't always have the self esteem or standards to eliminate that crap from their lives, usually too focused on physical appearances to see how shit a guy actually is.
>>734173If I have suffered enough why do I feel so guilty?
>>733625you're old enough to be my mom, are you going to settle in your 60s? because there ain't much to settle for
>>734173kys faggot
>>734160Traditional gender roles are still very much in play in gay relationships where one partner is traditionally masculine and the other is traditionally feminine. I'm bisexual and prefer feminine men (even over women) and since I'm a very conventionally masculine guy the dynamics feel essentially the same as in a het relationship. Obviously that's not entirely the case since there's masc4masc people and fem4fem, but I have less experience with those due to my preferences.
>>734178So, is it due to the patriarchy or is there some other fundamental reason for there to be a feminine and masculine partner even in homosexual relationships?
>>734181I'd say so insofar as masculinity and femininity are essentially just bundles of characteristics which would be entirely arbitrary were it not for a gendered division of labour.
>>734171>75% - 85% of single (hetero) men. the bar is really low, and women don't always have the self esteem or standards to eliminate that crap from their lives, Lol. It's kinda funny how it's kosher to say that 75-85% of men are garbage but if anyone said that about women that would be an instaban for "incelism."
>usually too focused on physical appearances to see how shit a guy actually is.And this right here too. If a guy said women only care about looks or whatever that would also be "incelism." I apprecciate the honesty tho and we needed the verified female poster to tell that truth. But if some guy said all the women he dated were psycho cunts, I am sure you would point out that means he is probably attracted to that personality.
>>734171>yes can confirm. it's always mildly suspicious if a guy doesn't have female friends or ex gf orbiters w/e, bI don't keep orbiters because I always feel really bad for them. Women keep orbiters because those afforementioned "self esteem issues." I think it's kinda cruel to use people like that perpetually so you get an ego boost and have a backup plan. Stop wasting other people's lives for your own vanity.
I'm 31 and never been in a relationship. It just was something I've never bothered doing. People think I'm an internet dwelling incel or gay. I'm totally clueless about relationships and part of me thinks its just a dumb waste of time. Maybe I'm too old? I've seen of people go through divorces and breakdowns and I think "fuck that I'm staying single." Is it even worth it?
>>734184From reading these 50+ threads it doesn't seem like it
>>734182I guess that answer is to be expected from a Marxist imageboard. I do believe the concept of gender is to a large degree constructed and socialized, but I do not believe it‘s fully arbitrary. There is an underlying biological reality whereby sexual dimorphism does establish a meaningful relation between certain characteristics and men/women. What I find surprising is that homosexual men and women still replicate this polar relationship. My idea is that a dominant and a submissive partner creates stability, meanwhile two equally assertive partners will be in conflict with one another and two submissive partners lack a feeling a security that both crave from a dominant partner. And yes, I am implying that male = dominant and female = submissive.
>>734183You know, not every double standard is wrong.
>>734189Why is the double standard right then?
>>734190Because dating realities of men and women differ. They are no symmetrical, therefore applying the same standards is wrong.
>>734191Which double standard are you referring to specifically?
>>734188I'm sure a radlib would say this is gender essentialism. I think its because alot of their thought comes from post modern / post structuralist philosophy where alot of the ideas are centered around "inter textual" / discourse which is language totally disconnected from material reality. sorta like they took the kantian idea of synthetic a priori knowledge being a product of the mind and ran with it to the point where they're actually denying science?
Btw too, "self-esteem issues", insecurity, and all that is always just a cover for narcissism. People are insecure because they think they're the hottest shit out and when reality shows them they're not, they feel really bad about it.
I think that many women today have such a problem with narcissism because our society has decided we all need to stroke women's egos all day every day.
Just look at how we look at the term insecure pairing it with different genders.
>insecure man
Potential spree killer, probable abuser, likely to lash out and hurt people
>insecure woman
Poor widdle baby, a victim of men and society. She just doesn't know just how beautiful she is!
Yes men are way more dangerous and violent, maybe insecure men are worse and more likely to do really bad things. But like, insecure women are not good either. Not just for themselves but how they will hurt others.
>>734202That's because society conditions men to be war machines.
Irony is, people have more fear and loathing for a harmless man than a harmful man.
Also yes, female transgressors are given far too much sympathy, especially when they're still prime age.
But it's not even just that. They're never given the same caution as insecure men even when they have a serious track record.
>>734191>>734189They're not symmetrical but they have a lot of similarities.
>>734195Idk. I think that's somewhat more fitting for doomers and whatnot.
I also think social media is over blamed for self esteem issues in young people.
>>734198Wrong. It's not completely direct narcissism on the female party. It's because of chivalry.
Chivalry is mutual narcissism.
Men get a rush from showing off like jackasses for women's amusement.
Women get a rush from being catered and fought over.
>>734195Not all narcissism is self-positive.
In fact, most cases of the mean toxic narcissist are often insecure, self-negative people.
>>734229I know. That's what I mean, like insecurity and narcissm are like two sides of the same coin. Maybe a better word would be self-obsession. The people who are always fishing for pity and the ones least likely to consider anyone else's feelings.
Insecure people waffle like a motherfucker. One second they feel they're hot shit, next moment it's I ain't shit. That is why they can't reach security because they can't reach equilibrium.
It often happens to people who have had their ego stroked too much in life. The "gifted kids" who received too much praise. It's not just women, it's how they raise everyone nowadays to feel their soooo special.
>I'm special (Special), so special (Special)>I gotta have some of your attention, give it to meAnyways, I am not pretending I have a comprehensive theory, I just have learned now that the "self esteem issues" and all that is a major red flag after a lifetime of "fell for it again" awards
>>734236>It often happens to people who have had their ego stroked too much in life. The "gifted kids" who received too much praise. It's not just women, it's how they raise everyone nowadays to feel their soooo special.Sorta.
Also, the problem with gifted kids is that adults only cherish kids for academic prowess and bar them from worldly affairs.
Also, academia in general is a cesspool of ego tripping.
Also, the whole "over praise" of children is just a petty snub made by bitter adults who expect the youth to change the world for better according the whims of the elders and failing.
The real problem is this obsession with wanting to "change the world".
Idealism is force fed to kids by adults in school, church, home, and media.
Kids are not allowed to question or reject idealism or else they're branded as "rebellious brats".
In the adult world, most people turn to religion and politics to cope with midlife and waning cultural relevancy.
Most discussions about the world going to shit is often tinged with solipsism.
It's usually people who never achieved anything worthy in their prime or people whom are stuck in their glory days
>>734243>but I think ego-stroking is a big problem at just any stage of life but especially younger. Funny enough, it's older people who hold more power and use it to enact their whims.
Society likes to project the flaws of human nature onto youth far too much.
People like to quite Lord Of The Flies but forget that adults created nuclear bombs and super viruses to kill people.
It's also adults who beat children for rejecting familial traditions
>>734243>That's why humility is a virtue. That's why we talk about humbling experiences and the positive effect they can have.People like to preach about humility but they often look down on those having humble experiences. Humility is only appreciated when it's made into a drama movie about good looking talented arrogant people who become family men and pamper their offspring.
Also, I think most people have a subconscious hatred for more successful people who didn't have to resort to unnecessary trouble to gain a higher station
Humility is promoted as a cover for tall poppy syndrome.
>>734254You never heard it said that the only down to Earth or normal celebrities and successful people are like the ones who got it later in life? They say you stop maturing at the age you got successful.
I just want a boyfriend-free girl
>>734255>Also, I think most people have a subconscious hatred for more successful people who didn't have to resort to unnecessary trouble to gain a higher stationThey just tend to be out of touch and assholes. If you had to work a regular dickhole prole job for years you gain more respect for working people. Same reason booj kids are often really spoiled and bratty. Never disciplined, never watch their parents struggle through life working a regular dickhole job to provide for them. Ot's natural that people who success fell into their lap think they must have the mandate of heaven or something.
>>734264The women who are after relationships tend to always be in one. I don't like the idea of stealing someone's girl. I've been offered those kind of propositions before but I can't do it on principle. I follow try to follow that golden rule thing. Also I feel like it probably creates the katma for it to happen to you and also the kinda woman who would do ot to one guy would also do it to you.
I remember the first woman I got romantically involved with in high school confessed to me that she always keeps the next potential boyfriend in the wings because she can't stand being alone.
>>734262Thats a common cope.
Getting success early in life doesn't mean stagnation of maturity. You're also forgetting that success brings in a lot of trouble.
Jealousy and gold diggers and most all, self-doubt about succeeding on your next big project.
Irony is, there's a lot of people who are zero-achievers and they're insufferable assholes.
>>734265There's a lot of people whom are not born into bourgeois society and they're still assholes.
Irony is, in the working class world, there's this adolescent pissing contest about who has it harder.
Being a regular working class Joe doesn't gain you respect from people. Unless you have a business of your own or are the right hand man of a workshop/business owner, you're not respected as an individual.
>>734262Then Jim Carrey, Brian Wilson, and Rick Astley must be grade A assholes..
They achieved success early in life.
Sting, the lead singer and bassist of the Police didn't achieve success untill his thirties and he was a major asshole to his bandmates.
>>734262This common theme of suffering and denial of happiness in youth is just tall poppy syndrome.
Have you ever been in ghettos?
Most of the people there have no prospects at all and they're undisciplined and act like the world owes them something.
They have no desire to make a better life for themselves. They prefer to wallow in their own filth and accuse others of "praying on their downfall".
>>734269I heard Prodigy of Mobb Deep say that about himself since his rap career took off at 16, 17. He said that he felt like it made him live like a teenager for decades probably until he got locked up. Heard a lot of actors say the same thing. It's not so much about being mean as out of touch. You have no idea what life is like for the average prole if you never been through it.
>Being a regular working class Joe doesn't gain you respect from people. Unless you have a business of your own or are the right hand man of a workshop/business owner, you're not respected as an individual.I always felt a certain comradery with my fellow blue collar joes.
>Then Jim Carrey, Brian Wilson, and Rick Astley must be grade A assholes..>They achieved success early in life.Jim Carrey was working nights cleaning offices in his family business in high school. He came from a very hard background. He is a little bit of an asshole too. Brian Wilson is like a eternal homebody introvert isn't he? Wouldn't really apply. Don't know anything about Rick Asterly. I am not saying it's a 100% kind of rule, but obviously we all know rich and priveleged silverapoon type people yend to be assholes.
>Have you ever been in ghettos?>They have no desire to make a better life for themselves. They prefer to wallow in their own filth and accuse others of "praying on their downfall".I grew up in the hood for 20 something years. A hood with a number of gangbangers and stuff doing shootings. A place where there are tons of uyghas even up to their 30s and 40s doing nothing but hanging out on the corner. I went to school with all those people, I am well aware of the hood mentality. I did even thinking of mentioning in the other post but that is mostly irrelevant to the original topic tho, those guys live in their own special kind of hell. Those are lumpen not proles tho.
Yes there are also people that build up resentment over years of struggle a d if they find success they see it as their time for revenge to all those that hazed them.
>>734276>I heard Prodigy of Mobb Deep say that about himself since his rap career took off at 16, 17. He said that he felt like it made him live like a teenager for decades probably until he got locked up. Heard a lot of actors say the same thing. It's not so much about being mean as out of touch. You have no idea what life is like for the average prole if you never been through itAgain, alot of people who achieved success early may have actually experienced "normal people" problems.
The Jackson Five and the Beach Boys all experienced normal lives before becoming famous and they hit it big in their younger years.
Same for the Beatles.
And people who achieved success later in life still fall into pitfalls.
Again, the whole "achieving success early in life causes stagnation" is copium for fucking up in ones prime.
Rappers especially are prone to being out of touch because a lot of them come from ghettos or places that have ghetto psychology.
>I always felt a certain comradery with my fellow blue collar joes.I'm glad you do. Most people like to talk about being "for the people" or "freeing the masses" but they all look down on fellow proles as sheep to be guided rather than mutuals
And most people, regardless of class, look at their peers as window dressing or as bothersome pawns to be deal with.
>I grew up in the hood for 20 something years. A hood with a number of gangbangers and stuff doing shootings. A place where there are tons of uyghas even up to their 30s and 40s doing nothing but hanging out on the corner. I went to school with all those people, I am well aware of the hood mentality. I did even thinking of mentioning in the other post but that is mostly irrelevant to the original topic tho, those guys live in their own special kind of hell. Those are lumpen not proles tho.You know what's fucked up?
How society glamorizes that shit.
Or rather they glamorize it in a "get rich quick and start your own dream job" way.
Also, Leftypol sympathizes lumpen far too much.
>>734276>Jim Carrey was working nights cleaning offices in his family business in high school. He came from a very hard background. He is a little bit of an asshole too. Brian Wilson is like a eternal homebody introvert isn't he? Wouldn't really apply. Brian was a sensitive child who grew up with a domineering dad who was a failed but talented songwriter. Add a hotheaded mean uptight first cousin (Mike Love) into the mix, and look what you get.
Jim Carrey from what I heard was bullied really bad and suffered from depression and insecurity. Alot of his comedy is just self-therapy for him.
Don't know anything about Rick Asterly. I am not saying it's a 100% kind of rule, but obviously we all know rich and priveleged silverapoon type people tend to be assholes.
Wrong. They're not assholes.
They're rectum tanks.
Assholes are crosseyed starship troopers on Spaceballs.
But what really irks me is how people praise Donald Trump as a success story despite being born into wealth and squandering. It.
Kamala Harris came from a blue collar background and worker her way up, like Hillary Clinton did..
Yet, Harris and Clinton are looked down upon as being out-of-touch elitist politicians.
People generally seem to be shit. If I learned anything from these threads is it's either cheat or get cheated on. Our ideas about sex and relationships are fucked or maybe they're perfectly logical for our shitty world. I think I would've slept with other dudes chicks if I had gotten the chance.
>>734284Wrong. The lesson is that friendship needs to be appreciated more
>>734280>The Jackson Five and the Beach Boys all experienced normal lives before becoming famous and they hit it big in their younger years.Have you never read about MJ's childhood lol? Why do you think he turned out so fucked up? I remember reading when he was a little boy, and Joe was taking them on tour with him, before they were famous, Joe would tell Michael to climb under tables at rhe clubs they were playing. and like peak up women's skirts or something. I might not have the details exact because it's so weird I don't even know what the purpose was, but it stuck with me. Lol The Jacksons had a normal childhood is a phrase I think never said before.
>Again, the whole "achieving success early in life causes stagnation" is copium for fucking up in ones prime.Nahhh. You're such a contrarian Newgene lol. Maybe it's more about your obsession with being the child defender.
>Same for the Beatles.The Beatles had fucked up childhoods too. Ringo Starr was raised in a TB sanitarium. John Lennon never knew his mother, that's why the song Julia, he wrote for the mother he never knew is so moving.
>You know what's fucked up?>How society glamorizes that shit.Yeah definitely.
>Or rather they glamorize it in a "get rich quick and start your own dream job" way.Kinda? But no, it's really more about the glamor of live fast die young or spend the rest of your life in prison.
>>734360>>734361Half of what I say is meaningless
But I say it just to reach you, Julia
Julia, Julia
Ocean child calls me
So I sing a song of love, Julia
Julia, seashell eyes
Windy smile calls me
So I sing a song of love, Julia
Newgene picking all the celebrities with the most fucked up childhoods as a debunk lol.
>>734283>Kamala Harris came from a blue collar background and worker her way up, like Hillary Clinton did..Hillary parents weren't blue collar. WTF?
> Her father, Hugh Rodham, was of English and Welsh descent,[5] and founded a small but successful textile business.Petit booj at least.
>>734361>On 15 July 1958, at the age of 44, Julia Lennon was struck and killed by a car while she was walking home after visiting the Smiths' house.[34] His mother's death traumatised the teenage Lennon, who, for the next two years, drank heavily and frequently got into fights, consumed by a "blind rage".[35] Julia's memory would later serve as a major creative inspiration for Lennon, inspiring songs such as the 1968 Beatles song "Julia".[36] Barely knew or saw his mother and then she died when he was a teen. Sounds humbling.
I mean, I don't neccesarily agree that "suffering builds character" but since this is a world of suffering, suffering makes you relatable and able to relate to the majority of people. If you didn't go through suffering you are a weirdo really.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/suffering-builds-characterMan I loved Calvin and Hobbes as a kid. Everyone did, but I don't think most of the kids got most of the stuff in it. It probably red/blackpilled me on so much stuff. Deep ass Sunday strip. Can't believe Bill Waterson just stopped creating shit before I was old enough to read it. I was always like motherfucker! Why aren't you making new shit? I guess he just got through everything he had to say and he was done. Goddamn motherfucker is only 67. He is just like: so long and thanks for all the fish.
>>734364Also I don't know if Kampala Harris would count as blue collar in her upbringing since both her parents were academics. Although she was brought up in divorced household and lived in various places in her childhood.
>>734360>Have you never read about MJ's childhood lol? Why do you think he turned out so fucked up? I remember reading when he was a little boy, and Joe was taking them on tour with him, before they were famous, Joe would tell Michael to climb under tables at rhe clubs they were playing. and like peak up women's skirts or something. I might not have the details exact because it's so weird I don't even know what the purpose was, but it stuck with me. Lol The Jacksons had a normal childhood is a phrase I think never said beforeAh, I never heard of that.
So Joe was making his kids into circus monkeys long before Motown.
>The Beatles had fucked up childhoods too. Ringo Starr was raised in a TB sanitarium. John Lennon never knew his mother, that's why the song Julia, he wrote for the mother he never knew is so moving.Fair point. But these are things that happen to normal people. The Beatles were not born with silver spoons in their mouths. They encountered suffering before they became famous.
>Nahhh. You're such a contrarian Newgene lol. Maybe it's more about your obsession with being the child defender.It's more that society wants to justify mediocrity in youth far too much. Or rather, society doesn't like the idea of young people being worldly and able to make their own prosperity without having to be a "starving student" or whatever.
>>734368>I mean, I don't neccesarily agree that "suffering builds character" but since this is a world of suffering, suffering makes you relatable and able to relate to the majority of people. If you didn't go through suffering you are a weirdo really.The problem is, people use their suffrage as their identity to Lord over others.
It's like a pissing contest.
The glorification of suffering in our society is part of the vulnerable narcissism epidemic.
People always wanna ruin others happiness for not going through the same deprivation they did.
Alot of doomers seem to base their disillusion with the world on unfulfilled youth rather than any actual humanitarian crimes.
I always hear them refer to how much better life was before 9/11 or GamerGate or whatever. Never mind the fact that things were not always so good back in those prior times.
Like the Tuskegee experiments or redlining or the Love Canal crisis.
Suffering is common. To glorify stuff is to glorify taking a dump after severe constipation. Suffering is easy, success is hard.
I know it's hard to believe this, but, even rich people suffer.
I too have suffered and I would rather that I never did. If not suffering makes me a weirdo, Id rather be a weirdo.
I've never seen much universal compassion from suffering.
>>734375Academics are not always rich.
>>734364Textiles are blue collar, are they not?
Also, owning your own workshop doesn't make you petit bourg.
>>734195"All women are beautiful queens" yet these same people will put down men for not appealing to women's standards.
Women are not allowed to accept rejection gracefully.
I used to read books from the female POV and whenever they touch upon dating it's always like these women have a hate wish for men.
Whenever a man disagrees with them or is interested in another woman, the female protagonists will then cry about men being assholes
Never mind that these same women will reject men for not being witty or hot enough.
>>734397>Suffering is common. To glorify stuff is to glorify taking a dump after severe constipation. Suffering is easy, success is hard.>I know it's hard to believe this, but, even rich people suffer.
>I too have suffered and I would rather that I never did. If not suffering makes me a weirdo, Id rather be a weirdo. Fuck rich people lol. I don't give a fuck lol. If you're not suffering with the rest of us you're an evil person.
>>734403You think evil doesn't experience suffering?
Also, again, I find that in suffering, people tend to become more self-centered.
They use their trauma to justify disregard of others.
This idea that suffering builds compassion is idealistic drivel. People who promote this either have never suffered, or they never had to deal with their own demons directly, or they're in perpetual loserdom.
>>734171>it's always mildly suspicious if a guy doesn't have female friends or ex gf orbiters w/e,What kind of planet do you live on?
>I'd say that's about 75% - 85% of single (hetero) men. the bar is really low,Now you're bashing men for being single,
>and women don't always have the self esteem or standards to eliminate that crap from their lives, usually too focused on physical appearances to see how shit a guy actually is.Partially true. The real problem is that these women are never told that they're wrong. It's always the man's fault.
>>734188>My idea is that a dominant and a submissive partner creates stabilityI think it would be very mistaken to assume that dom/sub dynamics in the bedroom translate to dominance or submission in the relationship.
>>734195i also noticed that. insecurity is a form of narcissism, most people dont really care about you
>>734439Not really. Insecurity can be symptom of narcissism but it's not inherently narcissistic
I'm so fucking down bad, even the sight of a picture of an attractive women makes me fantasize about a life with her.
>>734412I don't know, I just can't relate to booj people, even if they are seemingly nice. They have no grip on reality since they've been shelterted since birth.
>>734173No, but the same timeI could never let myself go.
Welp, 3 months of dead bedroom 2.5 years into the relationship. Guess that's it now.
Soon I'll come back to continue to shitpost among you guys.
>>734509Well at least you got some for a bit. Consider that a win
>>734503If you really think about it, "booj" is just a slur thrown around.
Most middle class and even lower middle class folk would be considered bourg by living standards from fifteen decades ago.
Nowadays, we have less poor people in the West. But, most people are not financially autonomous.
And you don't have to be a bourg to be sheltered from the world.
Alot of religious extremist communities right now have people living in tatters and those kids don't know about hardship despite living in squander.
>>734723You don't, because it's a valid feeling.
Approaching strangers in public, especially of the opposite gender, has become stigmatized, you can blame public security, smart phones, PUAs contamination, media hysteria or the general alienation in society under capitalism or whatever but this effect has been measured empirically.
>>734728talking to strangers is fine. flirting with them when you just met is not. i know people have a hard time understanding this, but you do not have to be so forthcoming about your feelings towards someone. if a woman starts chatting with me in public, asking questions etc. then i already know she's interested in something about me, even if it isn't romantic. if i like her i'll want to continue the conversation, and if not ill just say "thanks, see ya". hookup culture and mass media has made us think that relationships happen instantly but it takes a lot of conversation for people to get comfortable enough with each other to express their attraction. even casual sex requires a good bit of familiarity with each other, that's why we often used to rely on alcohol in the past, being drunk kinda takes the icky feelings we get from strangers and our fear of being seen as weird, which is all that social awkwardness is. someone who isn't afraid of this will never seem awkward i.e. dey got da rizzma
>>734739ok but what if I don't care about what they have to say. what if I only care about getting between her legs, but feel bad lying and kind of pretending otherwise. have you all advice givers thought about that. up until ~15 years ago there wasn't a taboo about purely physical interest
I hate when your life is so nothing rn that all you can do is reminisce. It's embarrassing to be stuck in the past.
Women don‘t want feminism, they want patriarchy lite.
Glorification of suffering and late bloomer success is tall poppy syndrome
seeeeeeeexxxxxxxxxoooooooooooooooooooooo
>>734911A taboo always makes something more sexually enticing. The stereotypes racists believe in also make out black men to be very masculine and virile. Also, women aren‘t that loyal to things like a nation, a state or an ideology. I‘m black and I know that racist girls would still hook up with you if you‘re attractive.
>>734858So don‘t fall for the egalitarian hoax.
>>734983> women aren‘t that loyal to things like a nation, a state or an ideologyThis is why women cannot be true leftists
I wish my gf didn't expect me to spend the night when we don't fuck it's hell for me even if I jerk off to keep the horny at bay. Starting to believe what I really want is more of an exclusive FWB situation. If you don't have time to actually interact with me before falling asleep why even have me over?
>>734368>Why aren't you making new shit?He made a nihilistic picturebook. Pack it up humanity, everything sucks and there's nothing we can do.
>>734992Wrong.
>>734983Wrong. Women just happen to have autonomous moral compasses
>>735069No, it‘s called being disloyal and flimsy.
>>735022>He made a nihilistic picturebook.Calvin and Hobbes isn't nihilistic. Wtf are you talking about? Do you think Calvin and Hobbes is just that plagiarist meme of him pissing on things?
>>735117It's a pickle. The best couples I've ever seen were both just like really chill people, but even then I don't know if it ever was that they were truly "soul mate level." Honestly, I think only religious people are cut out for marriage, but I don't want to marry one because I don't want to raise my kids on fairy tales.
>>735114Why? Because they don't share your opinions?
And I thought we are against rightoids for their chauvinism against women.
>>735117That desperation you feel is exactly how a lot of dysfunctional couples form. And it's especially bad when kids are introduced into that.
>>735117>im scared im gonna give up on the chase and commit, only for the one i need to show up immediately afterwards.based on you're pic you're thinking with your dick and not your brain, no offense. if you found a girl you really loved, you might ditch her for a newer, hotter, or younger one, rather than basing it on actual personality and values compatibility. the best relationship you're gonna get isn't always going to be the one you find sexiest. That doesn't mean settle down with someone you find ugly, it just means don't keep ditching people who would show you decades of love just because you want to hold out for a hottie.
>>735119> The best couples I've ever seen were both just like really chill people, but even then I don't know if it ever was that they were truly "soul mate level."soul mate stuff is metaphysical BS. love is never unconditional. Like even my kid, if they turned out to be a sociopathic piece of shit who hurt people, I wouldn't love them anymore. I might fondly remember loving them when they were a kid, but I wouldn't love them anymore. Same with really good couples. The best ones are clear and honest with one another and set boundaries.
> Honestly, I think only religious people are cut out for marriage, but I don't want to marry one because I don't want to raise my kids on fairy tales.Religious people cheat on each other and get divorced all the time. I've been in a relationship for a very long time (more than a decade), have a kid, and neither of us are religious, though she comes from a religious family while I don't. So it's entirely possible to have a firm relationship without religion.
I peak in this thread once every few months to see how y'all are doing but am not a regular >>735123>Religious people cheat on each other and get divorced all the time.I mean like a true believer. Most of these people aren't true believers. Only couple I know that I'm sure like these people never get into screaming matches and all that are deeply Christian. They go to church like multiple times a week.
>soul mate stuff is metaphysical BS. love is never unconditional. Like even my kid, if they turned out to be a sociopathic piece of shit who hurt people, I wouldn't love them anymore. I might fondly remember loving them when they were a kid, but I wouldn't love them anymore. Same with really good couples. The best ones are clear and honest with one another and set boundaries.Most people have no sense of honor or anything like that which I guess is spooky and all that, but I think maybe you need that level to maintain a permanent relationship like that.
>>735117I think I have given up on the dream girl thing since i graduated high school. I don't think it's completely unrealistic for some but I'm not in that category even if I'm not a complete incel in the original meaning of the term. Even without a dating market as suffocating as the current one it's already like gambling. Sure people have said this in every time but if romantic love ever really existed shits certainly dead now.
Actually, come to think of it, have any of you ever adopted this mindset only to be pulled out of it by this actually coming true? I doubt it's possible but I'm curious.
>>735120I don‘t think you understand what I am saying. I‘m not saying everyone should be loyal to a nation/state/ideology. I am saying of the people who profess they are, women are less reliably loyal to it.
>>735125>Most people have no sense of honor or anything like that which I guess is spooky and all that, but I think maybe you need that level to maintain a permanent relationship like that.Hmm. It doesn't have to be about honor necessarily. Sacrificing positive freedom (the freedom to do whatever you want to whoever you want) for negative freedom (freedom from having bad things happen to you) is the essence of social stability. People choose negative freedom over positive freedom all the time because they crave stability, and the raw power afforded to them by positive freedom is always accompanied by significant risk and potential instability. So it's less about "honor" and other spooks than it is about seeking stability. I could cheat on my wife and she could cheat on me. But it increases instability and seems like more trouble than it's worth. Also some people just lack the libido to really
need a bunch of side action. Not everyone has that Tony Soprano sexual appetite lol.
>>735136I was raised by two people who are both ex-Christians from very different denominations. My dad left it because he became a Marxist, my mom left it because she took it really seriously and finally couldn't accept their "saved and lost" perspective on humanity. That everyone who is not a Christian is going to be annihilated(her church doesn't believe in the eternal suffering, you just regular die, while Christians get eternal heaven and this is actually what Christ said. Catholics just made up all that hell stuff) while the Christians live in paradise for eternity.
But forget whatever religion or whatever. I remember it sticking with me from the GoT show about how they present the honor, fealty, whatever. An oath can not be broken. That's what the marriage ceremony is. An oath, usually called a vow. You gather every single person you care about in your life to witness you commit this oath.
The oath goes:
>“I, , take thee, , to be my wedded wife (husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death do us part.”To me "till death do us part" is a blood oath. It means "on pain of death." I would never make an oath lightly, I mean not a completely voluntary one like the marriage vows. I just hate liars. I had my own personal revelations about lying and I try to never lie. I'm very candid and honest.
Jesus also said divorce is forbidden for anything but adultery.
porn creates unrealistic sexual expectations on men, for example the expectation that the woman is going to put some effort instead of being totally selfish in bed.
>>735141romance stories do this as well, just expand "in bed" to the entire thing
>>735143both actually feel good when you get close to the fantasy, porn like sex feels awesome
>>735138not all weddings follow that exact model, and plenty of people get married informally. i get what you are saying though.
>>735149>Obviously you can permanently cohabitate and raise children without marriage. I have a friend who has 5 kids with his woman and never married.based
>>735154Honestly this seems like the most common arrangement where I live. At least among those younger than 50 or so.
>>735135Ah, ok fair point. But still
>>735149>>735154>>735155Common law marriage.
If a man and woman lived in the same domicile together for five to seven years, they're considered married.
>>733969Everything that exists is a tool for something.
Humans like to think themselves as transcendant, not needing a use to justify existence.
this thread is more of a /depression/ general lol
>>735201Sex & Relationships Generals were always that
Been reading a lot of
>why won't men open up? :(
discourse on various hellsites lately and it's really just insane to me how universal
>feelings should only be discussed with paid therapists
has become over the last few years as a go-to response (on both sides) and nobody involved seems to have even the foggiest inkling that living your life like that would actually be soul-crushing and alienating.
To be fair, "go to therapy" is a canned response and most of them probably don't really believe in it to the degree they say they do, but still, it's frustrating to see that this idiocy has become conventional wisdom.
>>735219Where do you see that? Every time I see this topic come up, the actual answer is "we tried to open up but it was used against us".
We need more pedophilic women.
>>735219Therapy is so overrated. I’m ChatGPT and psychedelics only now.
>>735297Do women know you have money when you don't show off much? How will women know I'm broke or not unless I tell them? I kind of live like I'm broke but I'm not actually I'm just very cheap.
>>735229at the same time?
>>735141>porn creates unrealistic sexual expectations on men,femcel
It's a pickle
>>735201did you expect much else from a S&R general on an imageboard regardless of political bent
Misogyny is a coping strategy for sexually unsuccessful men. Men can own the whole world but whenever a man approaches a woman in hopes of sex she has his entire ego by the balls and can rip it to shreds if she feels like it.
>>735328Patently false. In fact, sexually successful men tend to hold more misogynistic views on average than incels.
>>735330There are more than one reason to be misogynistic. Misogyny arises as a cope for sexually unsuccessful men.
>>735330>sexually successful men tend to hold more misogynistic views on average than incels.Citation needed.
>>735328The inverse would be also true in terms of misandry and wimen
>>735331>>735330All this talk about "misogyny" makes me think this is all passive aggressive misandry.
>>735334There are next to no sexually unsuccessful women. What‘s more common for them is being romantically unsuccessful and even that doesn‘t consistently transmute into hate for the other gender as is the case for the male counter part. That‘s in part because women don‘t feel entitled to men and women have better platonic relationships to keep them content.
>>735336Now this is a cope.
Women do have animosity that translates into hate for men for not conforming to the ideal archetype of man.
>>735336>That‘s in part because women don‘t feel entitled to men and women have better platonic relationships to keep them contentMen have better platonic relations as well.
Women do feel entitled to men but not the way men do for women.
>>735336Women hate on men for being "dull witted" or not "hot enough" or not giving them enough treats.
Romance and sex turns otherwise functional adults into toxic oversized infants
>>735347Men‘s platonic relationships are much more limited in emotional aid and fulfillment because of patriarchal rules of how men should conduct themselves.
Women are not entitled to men in any way that produces misandry as a result of sexual or romantic unsuccessfulness. Women in such situations are merely sad, while men concoct violent revenge fantasies against a whole gender for not touching their unused, shriveled peepee.
>>735353The first paragraph was correct. The second one however is gaslighting.
Women do blame men for female unfulfillment in romance.
Both in fiction and real life.
>>735353Actually, I think the first paragraph is kinda wrong. Men can and do have platonic relationshios that are fulfilling.
But the problem is, men are only seen as worthy of living if they have a partner to dote on.
>>735274>sexual consent on the blockchainrevolutionary
>>735353Women accuse men of being shallow and dumb for overlooking them.
They accuse men of ruining their lives if they have regret over the one night stands.
No different from the incel inclination of men.
Again, romance and sex makes functional adults into toxic babies.
Which is why cishet relationships should be strictly procreational only
>>735353>while men concoct violent revenge fantasies against a whole gender for not touching their unused, shriveled peepee.A minority of men do that.
>>735298They look at your shoes.
>>735370humans if aliens are hot, but only to female humans so theres gonna be a gigantic incel uprising
Term incel was created by a lesbian tho
>>735274Therapy is a scam. One psychedelic treatment was like a decade of treatment for me. I'm only partially joking when I say that psychedelics should be integrated into all talk therapy treatments.
>>735438Anyway I'm not really horny right now, but I really want to passionately makeout with an attractive foid right now
>>735436This is kind of misleading tho, yes according to the research misogynistic men had higher numbers of sexual partners but the actual promiscuous men usually were not misogynistic.
But yeah men who have a more inclusive view of masculinity has less sexual success on average than misogynistic men, and this applied even for physically fit or otherwise outwardly masculine non misogynistic men
>>735358>The second one however is gaslighting.>Women do blame men for female unfulfillment in romance.>Both in fiction and real life.Which is very different from the widespread violent revenge fantasies against a whole gender for not touching their unused, shriveled peepee.
>>735141>porn creates unrealistic sexual expectations on menTrue. If you allow me some anecdotic evidence, the longer it takes between the man starts consuming porn and start his sex life, the worse it gets.
>for example the expectation that the woman is going to put some effort instead of being totally selfish in bed.In my experience most ladies do put effort. Unless their selfishness was coincidentally very pleasant to me.
>>735510Women do the same thing against men. Wanting to dox/stalk them for rejecting them, falsely accusing them of rape if they don't get any free gifts, lie about paternity of kids, etc.
Feminists make articles to encourage women to patronize/punish men for any slight flaw or nuance on the male party
>>735511Not always. I sometimes find myself wanting to jack off to porn instead of wanting to fuck.
Also, both parties out effort into pleasing their parties. Not everyone has the same tickle spots or erotic triggers however.
>>735141Porn makes unrealistic expectations in women too.
Bump so it fills up
I'm buying a fake wedding ring from Amazon because Reddit said it will attract sluts to me.
>>735980Check back and tell us how it goes
>>735514>I sometimes find myself wanting to jack off to porn instead of wanting to fuck.because jacking to porn and fucking are two different things and people who confuse these two make me kinda worried. like someone whose idea of driving a motor vehicle is exclusively informed by playing GTA.
alas, porn is a scapegoat for the effects our dystopian hell world society has on individuals. such as the fact that a lot of couples form because both parts seek to therapy their traumata and demons via a relationship.
>>735297It seems easier to believe than someone actaully liking me
how old were you guys when you realized hetero cis women prefer their guys to have a high degree of chuddiness in them?
>>736328I think I always assumed that because it always seemed that the traditionally masculine you seem whether it's because of your height, strength, looks or usefulness the more female interest you'll have. That is if you're a 6 foot plus man with a strong grip who's good at fixing cars and seems to take risks you'll probably do well generally in the relationship and sex game. If you're not those things it'll be more difficult.
want to share a bad joke i heard
a guy, 16, who is tall, attractive, has it all for him goes to a co-student who is older, 18 or 20 and teases him, asks are you a virgin? now this dude is older but shorter, and looks average, of course he lies badly, so the first student keeps joking how come you still had your V card, lmao are you destined to be a virgin, but the second one doesn't start immidiatly fighting, he knows he's a boxer and isn't in the mood for fist fights, he feels bad, so the very next monday, the older student passes by the first student, says to him guess what, maybe you're wrong im not destined to be a virgin, i just revoked it!, the younger one says already? are you lying?, the older continues "no, it was easy as hell, i didn't pay for our date fully, we split it and gone to a walk afterward, i felt the whole time content and in control, and the sex was good as can be, i felt like i was attractive, wasn't asked about my money, face, height or looks, after the walk i went to my place and got a loong blowjob, i had to struggle shoving it in and ejaculated inside…..and we didn't even use condoms, gonna remember this encounter for a long time, might try it again, oh i will do it again"
the first one is in awe, he teases again "so, you paid a good sex worker?" the other denies it claiming he met his partner casually, "wow, no way you found a girl so open and into you like that so fast, and did not pay for it fully!. what a girl, how was she like?"
so the older one replies with a deadpan answer while daydreaming "……she?"
>>736294>because jacking to porn and fucking are two different things and people who confuse these two make me kinda worried. like someone whose idea of driving a motor vehicle is exclusively informed by playing GTA. This.
>alas, porn is a scapegoat for the effects our dystopian hell world society has on individuals. such as the fact that a lot of couples form because both parts seek to therapy their traumata and demons via a relationship.Social media gets even more scapegoating.
Alot of the problems prime age people have are always blamed on social media.
Depression?
Social media
Anxiety?
Social media
Recognition issues?
Social media
>>736328When I became a tankie and suddenly my relationships with women improved.
>>735514>I sometimes find myself wanting to jack off to porn instead of wanting to fuck.I'm also pornsexual
>>736535Your penis isn't controlling you, it's your brain.
Hornyness is from the brain.
The genitals are merely auxiliary units.
>>736577Jokes on him, I don't have a girlfriend. I have no idea who that girl is who he stole. I suppose she could've been mine at some point if I had asked her. He stole my potential girlfriend is more like it. Yea that's it.
Just booked an apartment for a month in southern Thailand. Going to continue training Muay Thai while taking language courses. This isn't related to the thread but idk this thread is a dumpster fire and I don't think I should make a new one. I'm excited because I got a pretty good apartment in terms of price and it has a microwave
>>736723I see we have another x rated ai music enjoyer
ARGHGHAHGHAHGHAGH I JUST WANT THE BAD FEELINGS AROUND MY GF TO GO AWAY WHY CAN I NEVER GET A RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE WHO COMMITS TO ME FROM THE START!???
Nothing. Enjoy what you have. Or don't it doesn't really matter. It's probably all about breeding anyways.
>>737121how much do you think you need to pay to win the lottery ?
at no point do you say you tried asking someone out (even with innuendos idc) so of course all this shit is worthless,you need to move onto the rollercoaster,not stand on the side waiting for someone to pick you up.
>>737121since you omitted it i have to assume you are under 6' or whatever that number in burger was. anyway, you are too short for a gf, sorry.
>>737124No anon, unfortunately I am above 6ft, so it's not that, if you wanna help me cope with incel talking points you can point to the fact that I'm not white, but I'm afraid that's probably not it either, this one is my fault somehow
>>737123I do invite women out, the ones I mentioned, none of them wants me, and also I don't vibe with any of the normal one(not that I don't keep trying like fucking Sisyphus)
>>737122I want a girlfriend more than I want to be alive tbh
>>737131You should stop trying. At least if you're past the 25-30 age range after that there's probably no reason other than to continue humiliating yourself. Or keep trying a lot of it is just luck anyways.
>This whole self improvement thing is a scam
You can be an unemployed slob living in your mother's basement and have a girlfriend. Self improvement is for your own benefit, anon. I suspect you're autistic and just don't have the script for flirting. I recommend dating apps, they suck and you won't meet anyone interesting, but you will meet people who want to fuck. Just pay attention to the way they act and what they respond to and you'll get it.
>>737140Yes, you are most probably right anon, but how can I learn how to flirt? I suck at this and absolutely hate dating apps (don't do good in them either, so your plan won't work)
>>737140>You can be an unemployed slob living in your mother's basement and have a girlfriend. Depends if you're willing to have a gf with a triple digit bmi, uterine fibroids, hormonal imbalances, severe yeast infection, etc.
>>7371211) You need to actually ask girls out.
2) You need to recognize your league. If the girls you are going for consistently reject you, you're out of your league. Go for less and less attractive girls until they start responding and showing interest. That is your league. If anyone tells you that there aren't leagues, they're lying because they think that this sort of "nothing is impossible" pep talk makes themselves look better and that being realistic sounds mean.
3) Self-improvement is only a "scam" to an extent. If you're batting way the fuck out of your league, no amount of self-improvement is going to help. Most of the factors that would land you a supermodel are out of your control. But self-improvement is a way to raise your status a bit, and thus your league. You can be as much of a fucking fat, useless slob as you want so long as you don't mind dating she-ogres that are just as bad as you are.
>>737186league narrative is horseshit. really hot girls never get cold approached and if you're actually a charming fellow the fact that you had the balls to approach her can sometimes be enough to interest her. of course even a drop of insecurity of fear will destroy you but that's the way it is.
>>737259Don't listen to this guy. He's trying to trick you. An ugly loser doesn't get a hot girl just because he cold opened, even if he was the world's more charismatic man, and the vast majority of ugly losers aren't all that charismatic anyway. The best you can hope for is to just not embarrass yourself. Stick to your league.
>>737263i can see you've never chatted a girl up and gotten her number. it's easy when you make it fun, that's kinda the trick to it, just make her laugh or shock her a little bit, anything that gets the blood pumping makes her think you're attractive because women get off on how a guy makes the feel, whether that's through looks, charm, possessions, etc. yes op will absolutely strike out mercilessly at first but eventually he will get a number and it'll snowball from there. you're right that he doesn't have to only ask out super hot girls but you'd be surprised how often they're receptive to lively conversation. women love chatting they think nothing of it, so it doesn't cost you anything.
You do DIY conversion therapy and turn yourself homosexual/bisexual
or become celibate
>>737326Why cant I be a normal person instead?
>>737267The key is to strained up conversation with them though, and that doesn’t mean you’re gonna score
>>737259The first sentence is completely wrong.
>>736328Women don’t want chuddiness.
They want handsome chivalric men.
>>735443> But yeah men who have a more inclusive view of masculinity has less sexual success on average than misogynistic men, and this applied even for physically fit or otherwise outwardly masculine non misogynistic menDoubt.jpg
This sounds like more like urban myths
RODS OUT FOR JADEY
>>736577comrade ur pencil seems to be on FIRE COMRADE YOUR OENCIL
>>737562Ok and?
Research papers used to state that ethnic people and women had smaller brains than white men.
This is just more pop psych.
I bet if respected serious science journals started promoting right wing ideology, you’d instantly reject them
>>737444Chat is this real?
>>733949When people complain about “loneliness “ they’re just complaining about “platonic people being too plentiful”
>>737444She looks she’s drunk or high.
Or the guy she’s cuddling is a relative or friend
Lookism is a non-issue when it’s in the dating market
People who complain about lookism are often the biggest enforcers of it.
Most people think themselves as needing better than they deserve
“Never settle for less”, “be yourself”, ladies/guys like it when you (insert peculiar gesture here)”
It’s all about presentation.
People complain about romance and sex being like a shopping market.
Well guess what?
IT WAS ALWAYS LIKE THAT!!!!
Most people are mediocre in looks, talent, assets, wit, and even hygiene.
Yet, they expect that they should be loved unconditionally from the get-go outside of familial bonds?
>>737694Life is a miserable venture. Mostly anyways.
>>737696>>737694This is why I hate it when people start obsessing over “the meaning of life” or start some stupid ass quest of idealism to “change the world”
>>737783the architect… i kneel…
>>735117"the one" is not a real thing. just settle and commit, spend 10 years with her without major issues and you will think "wow she really was 'the one'"
Would you rather be a seething sunni or a coping shia?
>>735219>>feelings should only be discussed with paid therapists>has become over the last few years as a go-to response (on both sides) and nobody involved seems to have even the foggiest inkling that living your life like that would actually be soul-crushing and alienating.This has got to be some kind of capitalist psyop thing.
>>737851I'm to intelligent to be religious.
>>735336>There are next to no sexually unsuccessful womenIsn't this a literal incel talking point
>>735380I wear my shoes until the very end of their lifespan so it looks like they'll assume I'm poor. I'm assuming this is a bad thing
>>735436We should talk more about this
>>737498Anecdotal, but my misogyny increased a thousand-fold once I started having sex.
>>737855It’s true
Fucking apartment manager in Thailand canceled my reservation. Luckily I was able to find a new place but it’s no longer in walking distance of the language school I planned to attend tf
>>737854>Should be too* intelligentUgh. I can't believe you just made me do that.
>>737854Would you rather stroke a seething sunni schlong or caress a coping shia cock?
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