/siberia/ - Off-topic

>Wrote poetry
>Stimmed
>Engaged in urban terrorism
>Abused Animals
Stalin sounds hella autistic, I wonder if he would have passed the test

>>772746
>igniting explosive cartridges in a shop

And people wanna complain about kids nowadays being out of control?
Kids got into way more troublesome shit back in the old days
Playing with matches, stealing parents beer stash, joyriding in the family car, etc
Maybe TikTok ain’t so bad

These days I found out that hardcore psychanalists don't believe in adhd and low needs autism etc

>>772763
Eh

i have a kid with confirmed diagnosed autism, i have long suspected my dad and paternal grandfather are undiagnosed autistic. some people call me autistic. sometimes i think my wife is autistic and sometimes i think she is way more neurotypical than me.

my mom has mental health issues but not necessarily autism, my maternal grandmother has always been depressed, and my maternal grandfather was PTSD from being infantry. yep i'm thinking my whole family is probably neurodivergent.

>>772746
Abusing animals is NOT autistic behaviour

>>772836
I don't have much hope because all this autistic acceptance and praising of retards like Elon Musk, zuckerberg, and the freaky Palantir guy has backfired, now people look at autistic people are cold blooded psychos. people look at Tormenting animals and think that must be autism.

>>772800
You heard me.
People go hysterical over kids consuming TikTok but happily reminisce about kids playing with matches or jumping out of trees with no safety

>>772842
Nah, most people view autists as dysgenic nerds

>>772842
psychopaths are just masking as autists to milk empathy from normies

>>772848
I'm only 34 and I think about several times I almost got myself killed between 12 and 18

>>772856
Psychopaths are probably smarter that autists at leas in general. Although they probably also cause more problems so it's all a wash.

>>772861
society is about cooperation not intelligence. your cells are very dumb but they cooperate in such a way that your body doesn't melt into a sludge of single celled organisms trying to eat each other

>>772834
>i have a kid with confirmed diagnosed autism
I’m sorry, I’m sure you are a great parent but I don’t know how a feel about people who use this website being allowed to have custody of children

>>772836
>>772842
I was kidding, I should of specified that

>>772878
Very funny, Tom

>>772878
> I don’t know how a feel about people who use this website being allowed to have custody of children
churchgoing normies raise their children on a book full of God-directed rape, genocide, and war mongering, but Marx forbid imageboard browsing

>>772881
Everyone is kind of stupid I guess. But religiouscucks are often the worst.

>>772881
I was kidding bro

>>772858
Did you grow up with a roughneck childhood?

>>772889
Trying to make a joke in the autism thread. You didn't really thing this one through, did you?

>>772894
No I didn't bitch

I once watched this entire video in one sitting on 4x speed

I support Kanye West.

I don’t care if this is “out of character” for a leftist to support a multi-millionaire who has openly flirted with fascism but there’s a much bigger issue here regarding Kanye West and the tremendous amount of scrutiny he’s received in the media for years.

Kanye is autistic. He was late-diagnosed at age 47 last year after having been previously misdiagnosed as bipolar. Anyone who’s familiar with his behaviours can clearly tell he’s autistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3gc09kjQE

I’m autistic as well. I can’t live alone. I dropped out of college at age 20. I’ve never worked a real job. I currently live with my mother who is ableist as fuck. When she gets too old and becomes disabled herself I will move in with my allistic sister so I don’t have to be my mother’s caregiver. All my life I’ve experienced nothing but hate for my autistic traits and inability to live up to allistic social norms. I don’t recognize social hierarchy and have a strong sense of Justice which innately threatens capitalism.

The reason Kanye is important to me is because him being maligned and cancelled is an autistic civil rights issue. He made a song about Hitler, so what? The Alchemist made an album entirely made up of Zionist samples called “Israeli Salad” and never got cancelled for it despite Zionism being identical to Nazism. Him being a billionaire doesn’t bother me at all because 80% of autistic people are unemployed. Kanye needs to be supported for one very good reason: Autistic people can only win equality and acceptance when we’re allowed to unmask without consequences. Kanye being cancelled and hated BECAUSE of his autistic traits like being outspoken and not recognizing social hierarchy sets back the progress of the autism acceptance movement by decades. Autistic people deserve the right to unmask and live as our authentic selves regardless of how much it triggers allistics. We aren’t responsible for allistic feelings or accommodating allistics by masking. Masking is psychological torture and the main reason the primary cause of death for autistic people is SUICIDE.

We have a moral duty to support autistic people even if they’re autistic people we don’t like. When you attack a famous autistic for unmasking you’re attacking ALL of us. Also stream Bully in order to pay Kanye reparations for eugenics (something every autistic person deserves).

>>772993
ALL MY UYGHAS ASPIES UYGHA HEIL ASPERGER

>>772993
Is this a bot or copypasta ?

Why do autistic kids constantly consume stereotypes of themselves?

>>772877
that makes sense. thats also why autists suffer to be well adjusted, considering that despite being usually intelligent they cant cooperatr with others very well

the idea that all autists must like each other just bc they share a mental disorder is so retarded it sounds like something out of a cartoon for babies. many autists are even more disagreeable to me, also an autist, than fucking nt's

>>773120
I agree, finding identical autistic traits is like finding an identical snowflake.

Reminder that 90% of serial killers are autists.

>>773125
Well then don’t say anything bad about us

>>773125
That seems incorrect but sure why not?

>>773113
do they

>>773091
could be both, someone definitely posted that same text a month ago

>>773125
i found this pic of you checking your sources

Autism cannot be cured. Only reactionaries believe in a """cure"""

>>773160
How did you just “Find” a photo of someone?!?!

>>772834
sorry about your family, thanks for that information, now I would like you to know that I would hold hands with greta in public and even introduce her to my mother. just so you know.

Why do rightoids think vaccines cause autism? I always assumed that it was to get working class republicans on board with cutting vaccine funding

>>773487
it's just schizobabble that started out as tongue-in-cheek retardation, but that evolved into actual retardation when it infested the minds of the impressionable and idiotic, after the avenue through which said retardation (4chan/imageboards) became mainstream enough that its culture and sentiments began being exported to other and more trafficked internet platforms like xitter, reddit, and facebook.

same with all the other schizobabble they believe.

>>773487
>Why do rightoids think vaccines cause autism? I always assumed that it was to get working class republicans on board with cutting vaccine funding
this is actually an imported mental illness rather than american. it started in england. you see, kids usually get their measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines together at the same time. it's called MMR. it's been standard for decades. there was a quack doctor in the 90s who wanted to make a lot of money so he fabricated research papers suggesting that Measles, Mumps, and Rubella vaccines should be taken separately or else your kid might become autistic. This is because he wanted to sell the vaccines separately and at a higher cost. People who fell for his fabricated research then took his fake claims and exaggerated them, starting a vaccine skeptics movement. This movement gained prominence online in the English speaking internet in the early 2000s, spreading to America and Australia from England.

>>773487
watch this
>REEEEEEE BREADTUBE LIBS HOW DARE YOU
yeah i don't care

>>773531
it started as a scam to make money in england.

>>773534
>>773537
maybe you're right but this reads like the
>fornication under consent of king
story about how the word FUCK originated as a decree by medieval kings that allowed peasants to have children, who at the time needed some sort of authorization papers or something in order to legally comply with local ordinances or whatever, so the acronym stuck and became a word.

i.e. hogwash

Robert Eggers has powerful autism. his autism power is off the charts.

>>773539
Read The Doctor Who Fooled the World, by Brian Deer or just watch the HBomberGuy video above. It's all well documented and well sourced.

>>773539
>story about how the word FUCK originated as a decree by medieval kings that allowed peasants to have children, who at the time needed some sort of authorization papers or something in order to legally comply with local ordinances or whatever, so the acronym stuck and became a word.
that is called folk etymology and it is easily disproven by consulting an etymology dictionary

>>772993
>masking
not a real thing with real autists

There was a child that went missing in Serbia 2 years ago called Danka Ilić - and she was autistic

>>773710
Yeah that happens all the time

Is speedcore the most autistic music genre?

>>776912
No, that seems like it would be very overstimulating.

>>776912
having had sex with a few accoustic women, taylor swift is the most accoustic genre of music by a long shot for the fems.

for the dudes its probably death grips

>>776912
No, this is

>>773190
Is Doug's house really just painted as mono colored rooms??

>>772746
>Wikipedia screenshot.
Just post Black Book of Communism at this point.

I can't look people in the eyes

>>777544
That means you must be guilty about something, tell me what it is.

I'm autistic and I look people in the eyes so much and with so much intensity they get super uncomfortable and its been that way since I'm a kid. I can't help myself.

>>777545
not being able to look people in the eyes

I've been told that I often look down or away not directly at people. I remember about this female cousin was asking about my love life, which is nonexistent, and she was asking me if I was flirting with anyone at work and she said something like do you just stare at the floor all the time. I don't know if she meant it like literally or just alluding to what it is I actually do because she seemed somewhat surprised that I didn't even have someone to flirt with. I remember she also asked if I was just quiet or timid. That confused me because I thought it might the same thing but she said it's not. I've never diagnosed with anything though.

>>777546
Same, I used to not look people in the eyes when talking to them, then I read somewhere I should, so for years I just kept staring people straight in the eyes with no interruption for the entire conversation, until years later I figured out I should follow the maintain eye contact for 60% of the time rule.

>>777546
oh thats why people think im creepy

Do you think it is wrong for neurotypical actors to play Autistic Characters?
As an Autistic person my self as a kid I thought it was the Autistic version of blackface but I have since loosened my condemnation depending on the support needs of the character and the tactfulness of the Character.

>>777619
I mean, without rainman, autism wouldn't be as well known as a condition today. Yeah, Dustin Hoffman plays a very specific type of savant, that doesn't really align with most autistic people, but those savants do exist in real life and I think he did a fine job.

>>777864
What the fuck?

>Hans Asperger, an early researcher in autism, has been linked to the Nazi regime due to his involvement in the referral of disabled children to a clinic where many were killed as part of the Nazis' euthanasia program. This troubling history has led to significant reevaluation of his legacy and the term "Asperger syndrome."
do not endorse or accept Nazi psychology

I am Like REALLY pissed off at the Western medical care system and how it profits heavily off of how many people have a diagnosable illness which can be 'managed' instead of treated. This applies across the board from mental to physical health - why cure someone when you can make money off of them for a lifetime? Why break down a psychological barrier to help someone overcome themselves when you can prescribe them Zoloft instead? I am of course not saying ALL people in these fields are moneygrubbing scumbags, and sometimes prescriptions IS the best answer, I just find it disturbing that we are living in a time WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE suddenly have an incurable, lifetime, mental and/or physical issue and began noticing a pattern among certain demographics (mainly artists and introverts). And by 'suddenly' I mean the last couple decades, you can look at census data and see a huge spike in mental issues like aspergers and autism over the past 30 years.

Could it be overdiagnosing? Most likely. Could it be the vaccinations? IDK, can't speak on that, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were to be proven as a contributing factor. Either way, I went off my rocker and wrote this journal after some research for a Psych course I happened to be taking in college. I still stand by my words, I just want to put this in perspective. It isn't an attack on the entire medical industry, or claiming anyone's illness is 'fake', I just want to point out the systemic issues potential misdiagnosis's create and studies have already been conducted for this very reason. In fact here is an article from The APA, where a PhD Psychologist brings to the forefront the problem with expanding the definitions of ADHD that intersect with other mental disorders, as well as questioning the possible factors leading to misdiagnosing children and teens.

Hinshaw's words in this statement made my skin crawl:
<"Finally, we decided to look outside of psychology and outside of the health-care system because inside it, we couldn't explain the discrepancies. [What we are surmising] is that policy had an indirect influence over these diagnoses. We found that during the late 1980s and throughout the 1990s, several states passed consequential accountability laws, which basically changed the philosophy of schools: Instead of funding schools based on the number of students in them, funding became based on their students' standardized math and reading test scores. Schools were rewarded for doing better. At the same time, standardized test scores in the South were the lowest in the nation and as a result, these states didn't get as much funding.

That's when we knew we were onto something, because if you want to improve test scores, one way of doing that is to have children diagnosed so you can get extra money from the school district to help tutor them or put them in smaller classes. Basically, you diagnose these kids because improving their performance helps the school's performance.

Some states even allowed you to take students diagnosed with ADHD out of the pool that was used to judge your school, with the understanding that these kids probably perform lower, and if you have more of them, that shouldn't be held against you. "
That is the kind of misdiagnosis based upon greed that pisses me right the F off.
That's right, Ima say it, someone's gotta say it. It's BULLSHIT most if not all of the time, and I'm pretty certain it's a modern day scam that specifically targets concerned parents' of youth who often classify as the 'unpopular kids.' It became concerning to me (honestly) ever since I had to complete an essay on the condition(s) <[just out of curiosity] for a psychology course last semester, there is NO WAY IN HELL so many people should be diagnosed with aspergers/autism when in fact they're literally just either;
>Independent thinkers
>escapists
>introverts
>[the most common]flat out going through the fucking motions of growing up.
^That's what these 'diagnosis' mainly target and then next thing you know the kids/teens in question are prescribed a bunch of mind-altering prescription drugs that could potentially create a mental issue they wouldn't have otherwise acquired. The reason I say it's 95% and not full on 100% BS is because a small fraction of people do legitimately have this 'condition' (these are often the cases classified as low functioners' - whereas 'high functioners' are essentially normal fucking people) that causes them to have really poor speech patterns, no grip on reality, banging their heads against walls and shit, etc. But for the majority of cases these are normal people who've been tricked into believing they're what is known as a 'high functioning' autistic/aspergers.
You can look at the symptoms and tell that it's BS
>A failure to act properly for social norms ie; displaying selective mutism, speaking not at all to most people and excessively to specific people. Some may choose only to talk to people they like.
^ THIS IS LITERALLY EVERY FUCKING PERSON ON THE PLANET. People as a species are naturally programmed to be this way, dealing with friends, family, co-workers (people whom we've developed a relationship with) 99% of the time are the MAIN people we talk to and socialize with. We are pack animals in a way. As a social standard we acknowledge strangers with a 'hi' or 'hello' out of courtesy but it is NOT unusual for strangers to go 'mute' around people they don't know and/or have zero interest in. Especially those who have a low class v.s. high class mentality (ex; the rich girl at Starbucks who deliberately ignores everyone unless necessary because 'they're not on her level')
>May analyze and distill their observations of social interaction into rigid behavioral guidelines. Sometimes resulting in the desire for companionship becoming numbed through failed encounters.
^ First off following 'rigid behavioral guidelines' is something virtually everyone does. There's a reason you talk differently amongst your friends than you do with your parents or boss. If you don't adopt (observe) the set social guidelines society has placed on us, you will find yourself in more awkward situations than need be. There's of course room to be yourself but only when the situation applies. In childhood everyone has 'training ground' for social networking in the outside world, yes, sometimes after so many failed attempts humans tend to get anxiety and quit. This isn't a isolated trait of any condition. It's called you grew up in a environment where people weren't very kind/open to you - because honestly when your that young once a similar interest is established (barbies, Pokemon,fart jokes, etc) making friends is a cake walk. This is often what creates introverts; they didn't get the lovey-dovey friendship experience and end up learning how to entertain themselves. NOT a psychological disorder as some would like to claim.
>Show interest in few activities and obsess over the ones they do.
^ DOESN'T EVERY FUCKING BODY??! Ask any given person on the street what they enjoy doing and chances are they do that list of things as often as they can (a form of obsession) because it brings them enjoyment. Once habits form, it's rare more are incorporated, that's why we've term(s) like 'dare-devils', 'thrill seekers' and 'risk takers' because majority of people are afraid of unfamiliarity. Some activities in question also carry the weight of potential future opportunities, this is the case with most artistic fields (film, graphic design, photography) and a certain portion of you has to 'obsess' over it to some degree because without that motivational drive you will eventually lose interest, stop progressing and quit. 'Obsession' is the reason people like Steve Jobs, Walt Disney, and Stan Lee are successful entrepreneur's - yet before all the glory they were viewed as obsessive with delusional goals. Which leads into another 'symptom'
>Often have interest in some form of artistic activity and tend to enjoy creating fantasy worlds rather than live in reality.
^ Alrighty. So your an artist? Furthermore a good portion of you are artists' who use your skill as a sort of escapism? AND THIS IS A PROBLEM HOW??? Lets make this clear; ALL PEOPLE ENJOY SOME FORM OF ESCAPISM , because if we don't and just go through the pressure of life responsibilities and hardships with no form of emotional/mental release you will go fucking insane - or become suicidal, whichever comes first. I hate this one the most, because it automatically wants to label the 'creatives' (people prone to use the right side of the brain) with some kind of predisposition. If you are unable to 'detach' from reality and create your own good luck making a amazing fantastical story like Harry Potter, Star Wars, The Matrix, The Hunger Games, etc. even something more grounded in reality like a new scientific invention or sneaking into Bring Me The Horizon backstage requires some form of creative thinking incorporating what you already know/learned to something no-one has attempted. There is a difference between enjoying the immersion of a fantasy-movie like Zootopia - and then wanting to act out everyday as if you really fucking LIVE in Zootopia. < however this same logical thinking shouldn't be applied to children under 10 (the age-range people commonly mislabel autistic/aspergers); when we're young we naturally attach to things, sometimes for months until something else takes priority - its part of being a damn kid.
>Aren't very popular in school, doesn't fit in ie; loners.
^ This is literally marked as a 'symptom' - being unpopular. Particularity in Highschool. Its fucking ridiculous and makes me wonder exactly WHAT parent would listen to this sad excuse? Being popular and/or well liked by the student body isn't exactly something earned from being the nicest kid on the block, or even being the most bad-ass kid on the block, its earned by being an overconfident, pretentious, narcissistic, insecure, judgmental asshole. Doesn't matter if your in private or public school, THAT is the main prototype. The only other way to 'get in' is by means of some great talent everyone knows about or being that 'it' person in any given sports team or club. Not to mention since WHEN did NOT fitting in become an issue? Last time I checked it was encouraged to be brave enough to be yourself at this stage of life, not conform. Sadly, instead of taking into account the person has probably become socially withdrawn as a response maneuver to failed friendships, bullying, unacceptance(which can be anything from being gay to dressing different) and/or emotional issues in the home, nooooooooo you got a mental condition! Here's some pills to make you happy! This is a part of growing up. Highschool especially is a milestone that many rather not revisit because growing up meant facing a reality of douchebaggery and insecurity with some good times sprinkled in between.
>Often use a lot hand gestures and facial movement during conversation.
^ And? SO? In that case that means a lot of Italians and African people must be autistic/aspergers because boy-oh-boy do they love to emphasize what they're saying with hand movements and facial expression! This isn't a damn symptom of anything, it's called being fucking expressive when you talk, instead of a cardboard cut-out.
>Have a general lack of sympathy for others.
^ This can be related to a number of things, but often, a general lack of being sympathy is either (1) your a self-absorbed asshole (2) your a sociopath or (3) you've been through some shit and apply sympathy when you deem it truly necessary. Most people labelled as autistic/aspergers fall in line with category (3) which to a person like me whose been through some shit of her own, is easy to understand. After life throws you a few punches you tend to not fall down and cry for every little thing that happens to you or others - life has taught you too be stronger than that. People with this kind of thinking will be there for you emotionally if your dog dies, or you were unrightfully hurt/humiliated, etc. BUT DO NOT expect them to give a fuck about your day being ruined because you broke-up with that person everyone warned you about months ago.
>1 out of 10 adults shed Autism/Aspergers by their mid 20's.
^ I love this…It literally discredits so much without even realizing it…unfuckingbelieavable. Wonder whyyyy that is? Could it be because most of the symptoms representative of these two conditions are that of normal fucking growing pains in life!? And by the time your 20-something you've figured shit out by then and are (maybe) less awkward than before!?? Amazing! I didn't know people could overcome their emotional burdens and move on with a fully functional life!

So now I'm gonna stop here. Because to dissect everything wrong would be a Ph.D thesis paper, but you get the point.
Posted it here on DA because there are a lot of artist on here who (of course) are 'supposedly' q-o-q autistic/aspergers and when you examine how they act/speak/talk it doesn't add up.
So again, there are people who LEGITIMATELY have issues, but for the most part kids/teens being labelled with these conditions generally DONT have them, the system is pigeonholing specific personality types, not taking into account each individual is unique and people aren't cut-outs, but for some odd reason their parent's aren't thinking for themselves and blindly believe the doctor whose now prescribing them psychological drugs that could cause more harm than good.

>>778766
Deviant Art?

hi guys

>>778753
Nazi psychology was based on eighteenth/nineteenth century volk sentiment.
Our modern education system was adapted from German autocratic tendencies

>>778766
>I love this…It literally discredits so much without even realizing it…unfuckingbelieavable. Wonder whyyyy that is? Could it be because most of the symptoms representative of these two conditions are that of normal fucking growing pains in life!? And by the time your 20-something you've figured shit out by then and are (maybe) less awkward than before!?? Amazing! I didn't know people could overcome their emotional burdens and move on with a fully functional life!

In theory. I think it’s mainly cultural. Society comicalizes/patronizes youth too much.

In fact, I would say your whole post basically explains that autism as a diagnosis is showing us how society pathologizes youth for the slightest flaw and nuance.
Most of our modern diagnostics seem to be more obsessed with controlling the whims of children down to a T.

Kids aren’t allowed to have individuality in schools.
Schools practice collective punishment and group projects far too often.

Schools also treats children as all the same on basis of age rather than skill set.

As for your bit about high school: Hogh school doesn’t conform to the media stereotypes either cynical or nostalgic.

What makes it depressing is the lack of personhood you were allowed.
Kids are never seen as people, only as diagnostic lists.

Any and all behavior is always blamed on “hormones” or “brain development “ as if though childhood is not an individual experience.

Schools discourage nuance and individuality and cynicism. In some countries, kids are forced by law to join after school clubs

>>778766
The brain development theory was promoted by big pharma to justify parents and teachers infantilizing young adults and giving them more meds and extended schooling.
It is now being used as an excuse for delayed maturation

>>778766
People forget that autism is a neurocognitive disorder not simply a social disorder

There are a lot of people whom are awkward but are neurotypical.

>>773118
This. It’s why I wish society would stop pathologizing solitude and singlehood. Some people are better off alone. They will need help but they don’t need constant socialization.

>>778766
greatest thing about imageboards is when pseuds who have never read a book suddenly think theyre smarter than people who have spent decades studying a subject. you see this all the time with all sorts of subjects like psychology, archeology, history, philosophy. the average channer thinks hes a genius and every professional is a fraud, its such an insane level of ego icant comprehend

NPD and BPD bheaviour

Did you know these people can gave babies that become straight country music stars?

>>778991
What’s really funny is how they complain about brain rot/slop despite having their own preferences of recycled inside jokes and reminiscing and how they use Reddit, Twitter, and any major platform as a slur despite visiting said sites for aspiring discussion threads

>>779003
I cant find if on youtube, provably only in a mental hospital. The actual struggle with accepting life and its beauty and getting hit with a retard hammer like whack a mole is pretty strong on there though

>>779011
Youre acentric and anti austism

>>779015
????

>>779011
Also rage bated easily…

>>779020
I guess that makes you a grumpy old man then

Shhh. Autism speaks.

>>778855
Hi

How can I tell if I'm autistic if I already have ADHD and OCD?
Is there a surefire "if you never experienced this you're probably not autistic"?
I also think my sensory issues are minimal, if anything I'm more hyposensitive than most neurotypicals.

>>781675
I forgot to add that I work construction full time and I live independently. This was after being homeless multiple times and barely holding dead end jobs for more than a few weeks. Things like that make me doubt I could be genuinely autistic, among other things.
However, the part that confuses me is when I see autistic people with degrees, families, success, etc. meanwhile I never even went to high school and "loneliness" is an alien concept to me, which even many autists seem to experience. I really don't understand.

I heard I can find 420 Chan museum thread somewhere here. Can you retard communists help me out?

>>781677
They were probably just luckier than you.

>>781691
I just meant how even many autists seem more "normal" than me, even though I 'just' have ADHD and OCD. They've also tried to suggest C-PTSD, which might explain some things. But even many people with genuinely severe childhood trauma turn out otherwise "normal" people. The part that I don't understand is why I'm SO completely different if I'm not even autistic.

>>781694
As an autistic person myself, you seem more normal and better off.
Autism s a curse. Idk why God gave me this.

>>781699
This is the first time I've ever lived on my own, much less held a job for more than a few weeks, and that's mostly thanks to Adderall. I'm an alcoholic but I recently became sober, and just a few days after quitting I became so angry I screamed my violent thoughts in public out of nowhere then ran away once I realized what I did. I haven't done that in months. My OCD is also continuing to get worse again, and I had an hour long panic attack yesterday as a result.
Many days it still feels like I'm hanging on by a thread. I'm still poor, I still have no friends (not that I want any to be fair), and I still feel just as lost as ever. For a month or two, I almost felt alive. Then it all came crashing down like it always does. It's like I'm not allowed to experience genuine happiness for too long otherwise the universe punishes me.
Despite my abysmal social skills, emotional dysregulation, and executive dysfunction, my daily existence still tends to be fairly spontaneous, I do not rely on routines or predictability, and sensory issues largely do not impair my day-to-day life. I guess that's what separates me from autism.

wow you guys really are just a bunch of insufferable faggots, aren't u?

>>781778
Harsh post. Didn't mean to kill discussion. You all have a good day

I don't know how to feel about this condition that i have lived with my entire life. A part of me wishes that i never autistic, but a part of me doesn't? it (mostly my add but still) had caused me so many problems in my life but is (probably) one of the main reasons for some of the intrests that i hold dear. I used to believe there really wasn't anything inherently wrong with us and it was just due to society's repression and perhaps even a good thing, but now with more knowledge of the topic, observing how other autists act, including anti social tendencies that seemingly have its origin with this condition, as well as seeing toxic people using this line of reasoning, I've started to doubt it, especially after seeing palantir's ceo alex karp parroting some of this rhetoric, which is disturbingly looking more similar to eugenics, yet i don't want to view this as some kind of sickness or moral failing that i, a weak helpless victim, need to be cured of or at least be cruelly made to mask. Ableism and eugenics against us is still a very real thing; like, I mean, have you seen what some psychotic opportunists online will do to what they may deem as "lolcows"? I don't know anymore, man. I'm so confused and uncertain to the point that it's just depressing.

>>782013
As an autist, I think there ought to be a cure

I tire of people trying to coddle/defend autism as some misunderstood quirk
Autism needs a lot of sympathy but it should not be encouraged to breed.

>>782013
Also, a lot of our quirky/nuances hobbyists aren’t autistic

>>772745
I have many "markers" for autism and when I took a MMPI/WAIS-IV for an unrelated condition, the proctor-doctor thought I should test for autism. My therapist thinks that it's trauma responses which can be similar to autism. I don't care about routine and in fact seek out novelty and do not have repetitive behaviors, but I am socially awkward at times and definitely do "masking" (which is also common in ptsd)
What do you think leftypol

>>782021
I dont wish to imply you to be a eugenecist just from one post but the language it inhibits sounds too eerily similar, the breed part especially

>>782028
and from what i have seen, eugenics always lead down a dangerous road

>>782028
Why is this board so obsessed with breeding?
Seriously?
Most of you don’t have any patience or skill for women or children

>>782029
It’s ironic that leftists cry about eugenics but then they support abortion

>>782028
Would you want a world where the majority of people are autistic?

>>782028
If you base your value/purpose of life on wanting to pass off your genes, everything seems like “eugenics” to you

>>782032
i wish for a world where the majority live good healthy lives and not be hampered for what they were born with

>>782031
what does abortion have to do with eugenics? Educated, high income people are more likely to get abortions than poor dummies

>>782031
>>782051
If anything, abortion functions as reverse-eugenics

>>782053
How?
This doesn’t make sense
Abortion means sniffing out fetuses
You know that Leftypol agrees that fetuses should be rid of if they have Down Syndrome?
If women decided to abort their fetuses for having autism out of individual preferences, making autism extinct, would you consider it eugenics?

>>782051
How true is this?

>>782050
Then, would be willing to live in a world where nine tenths of the human population is autistic?
Not just a slight touch either. But level two or three type of autism?

>>782245
For some reason specifically Camels gave me terrible headaches.

>>772746
Tom you've really gotta learn to take westoid sources less seriously

>>782248
That would mean that this boat would have stop posting opinion pieces about God knows what

Also Tom is sycophantic to a T.
He can’t help it.

>>782248
You’re not wrong, I stated before that I made that post jokingly so I didn’t bother to check the source since it wasn’t a genuine question.
>>782249
>Also Tom is sycophantic to a T.
Sycophantic to what? Also stop erasing your name, your only doing that because you are a Namefren who doesn’t want to be called out for hypocritical.

>>782249
that word doesnt even make sense in dat context

Is clavicular autistic representation?

New guy started at work this Monday and he is already besties with everyone. Life must be so fucking easy for neurotypicals.

>>782506
It is not. They just have better connections.

>>782256
The way he talks is more like he’s trying to hard to appeal. Like some his posts are more like cliche liberal questionnaires.

>>782025
>I don't care about routine and in fact seek out novelty and do not have repetitive behaviors, but I am socially awkward at times and definitely do "masking" (which is also common in ptsd)
>What do you think leftypol
Depending on the severity of any potential sensory issues, it's unlikely you're autistic

Thread theme.

>>785794
Wtf

Why do rightoids think vaccines cause autism?

>>786821
I think it's a cool song and it's about autism.

>>788324
I remember when reading Authoriyarian Personality, what Adorno found is that right wingera are averse to introspection. For example they would refuse psychological disease diagnostic, instead trying to explain their own condition or failures in life through physiological issues.

>>788302
I don't know, but I readily believe it. TVD

>>788302
Because the vaccines (they believe) have heavy metals such as mercury and lead, which causes brain damage, therefore vaccines """make you an autist"""

Being an autist fucking sucks lmao i hate hearing people be positive about it

>>788415
Well what's the alternative? Not like we can change it, might as well make the best of it

As a kid I always fucking hated that autistic kid from Arthur… I just wanted to mention that.

>>788418

As a fellow autist, Im so sick and tired of people being dismissive like this."make the best of it" is just copium, showing proof of how shitty it is.

>>788421
What did you want anon to say? Of course it sucks. What are you gonna do about it? Kill yourself?

>>788424

well considering that this place does talk about wanting to kill themselves for not getting the perfect leftist society they dreamed of, why not? Life expectancy for autistic males is four decades.

Again, I wish people would stop condemning people for feeling down and depressed. Im really sick of it.

Biggest normie of the friend group got their diagnosis. I'm convinced this illness is fake.

>>788446
It is, only severe autism is real, the rest of them are just undersocialised as a child. If you can have a normal conversation, you are not autistic, you're only autistic if you have real special needs.

>>788446
>>788447
Not necessarily true.
Autism doesn't mean automatic lack of social skills.
It's a neurocognitive disorder.
It's unfortunate consequences is social impairment but not an innate factor

You can have relatively well adjusted people turn out autistic

>>788450
No you can't, fake nonsense by middle class people just like "gifted" nonsense, but now they're usurping a real and existant disability.
Seriously how can you ever be "autistic" if you never had to face consequences for it, its stolen valor.
"autists" should just talk to people more and they'd be cured instead of stealing valuable ressources from people who need it.

>>788452
Autism has physical symptoms, it's not just about social skills, fuck off.

This is why they never should have got rid of Asperger's.

>>788446
That doesn't mean it's fake, just that it's too hard to get a diagnosis and the people who have less coping skills are ironically less able to do the work needed to secure one. Blame our shitty healthcare system.

>>788431
I didn't condemn anyone, but I'm just trying to give the perspective that it's taken me years to get to. There's things in this life that you literally can't change, are you going to accept them and try live the best you can anyway, or will you perish like a dog?

>>788455
Physical syndromes are comorbidities, often caused by other things, you're likely to be more shut in (etymology of autism, btw) in childhood if you have physical difficulties, typically dyspraxia is highly comorbid to "autism" for that reason.
Aspergers was invented by nazis to medicalise asocial people, it's blabantly nonsensical, when they never should have been medicalised in the first place, and instead should be helped and taught how to live in the normal world, instead of feeding off from the ressources needed for actually autistic people those with actual special needs.

>>788459
So the fact that I have trouble with bright light, loud music, clothing texture, food texture, etc is all just a coincidence since I've learned how to hold conversations after decades of life?

>>788465
Disliking bright lights, loud music is a common thing and don't indicate a mental disability.
Same for your fashion and food tastes, it's normal to dislike the way certain food or cloths feel like, if you're too wingy about it, it just shows immaturity, not a disability.
So yes, it is a coincidence.

>>788418
Shit dude every part of my life is worse because of it and im a 100 % going to die alone and people tell me how awesome it is because… why exactly i never know what i get out out it nothing, its a life ruining disorder

>>788468
You're identical to the evil politicians who want to get rid of disability benefits for everything except missing limbs, just get over it bro, it's a skill issue.

>>788470
You know, if your biggest problems in life iis that you're a socially akward picky eater, I don't think it's a disability, I have a lot more sympathy for those who have to take care of actual autists. Sorry I have enough self respect not to pretend to be disabled.

>>788471
so if there's someone more disabled than you you're not disabled? have we even determined who the most disabled person in the world is?

even the evil british government is more progressive than you, since i actually got PIP recently

>>788472
Oh, I know, how about you are disabled from doing something because of some inner condition. If you just grew a pair and stopped eating slop and just talked to people in your life, you wouldn't have those "issues" anymore, someone in a wheelchair can't exacly start walking.
The British government conceding to a bunch of private school parents wanting an explaination for their child being awkward isn't "progressive" in fact its regressive.

>>788473
What's your dog in this fight? You a self hating autist?

>>788474
I have a aunt & uncle who are not recieving the services they need to take care of their actually autistic child because fake autists are actively straining the ressources, it litterally wasn't a problem a few years ago. beyond that fake "autists" are 90% private school kids who want to justify their failings and bad talk litterally everyone else, especially parents of actual autists.

>>788475
What services do you think I'm taking away? It's not like I'm living in a group home. You should blame constant welfare cuts not other autistic people with lower support needs. They could have built a palace for every autistic person with the cost of the war on terror.

>>788476
mostly access to specialists, sure, public spending and welfare cuts are wrong, but they're not the sole reason for the straining of ressources.
I think there should be more handicapped spots, but that doesn't clear away the non disabled that park there.
It's the same here, it's pretending to have a disability and stealing away from people who actually need. Especially when all of that could be solved by telling mothers of awkward bougie children that they aren't disabled and that they should just grow a pair, as what the actual working class does and has always done.

>>788477
I dunno what to say to you other than that you fell for boug propaganda. You're just making stuff up, I certainly didn't go to a private school.

>>788478
You feel for bourgeois propaganda, but yes I'm sure the people who were lobotomising and sterelising random people really have your interest at heart, they'd rather people be apathetic and immature and selfish then to actually fix their problems in life,

>>788475
Fake autists and bourgies ruined the health system's services for actual neurodivergent people

>>782284
>is Clavicular autistic representation?
He diagnosed himself, not by a professional. It is truly uncertain whether he is a true neurodivergent.

>>788483
It's even more then simply the health systems, they've decredibilised accomodations for learning disabilites in schools and universities in order to get extra time and access to a computer for exams, so nowadays teachers are paranoid even about the regular dyslexics or dyspraxics students.
I think Clavicular just has self hating issues more then anything, I also assume he spent too much time on incel forums as child.

>>788485
Timed exams are bullshit anyways. What's the point in them. Everyone should have like 6 hours for their exam and can leave when they finish.

>>788487
Thats still a timed exam ?

>>788488
I mean realistically there has to be some timer because the invigilators need to sit there until it finishes. But if a exam that is 2.5 hours now is made to 6 hours without making it longer, that's essentially not making time a factor

>>788489
I think this mostly means the students will write for 6 hours. Apart from homework you can't make nontimed exams. I also think it's good for students to learn the constraint of time.

>>788490
>I think this mostly means the students will write for 6 hours.

I mean maybe but it should just be established that the exam is based on what answers you actually give not how long it is. Kids aren't gonna sit there for 3 hours after they already wrote down everything they could think of.

>>788483
https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/the-gentrification-of-disability
saw a interesting article about that

post your rare Ashbies

>>788452
> didn't condemn anyone, but I'm just trying to give the perspective that it's taken me years to get to. There's things in this life that you literally can't change, are you going to accept them and try live the best you can anyway, or will you perish like a dog?

This s the same rationale behind "pull your self up by the bootstraps" of capitalism.

>The world doesn't owe you anything you're just lazy

By your logic, capitalism and liberalism are just facts of life that can't be changed so such it up about inequality.

what's the deal with autists always trying to amateur diagnose other people with autism like some r/egg_irl shit

>>788633
i forgot how much i hate that fuckass subreddit

its like their sense of humour hasnt evolved at all. i just checked it and theyre posting the exact same type of anime meme youd see 6-7 years ago. fuck em

>>788631
Do you not believe in self improvement at all ? What even is your point, I'm not talking about economics, just because it's impossible to work out of your class doesn't mean it's impossible to improve anything about yourself. You can't seriously tell me being an awkward picky eater is impossible to change. Idk, it's the same for fat people, you might be fat trought no fault of your own, but you can perfectly work on it, if anything it's easier to stop being an awkward picky eater then to stop being obese.

>>788633
Maybe they just want to feel like they are taking a normie inside their community to make the normie safe from the clutches of neurotypicality
>>788487
>timed tests
They literally put pressure on literally everyone, especially when it's some bullshit like having 30 minutes to answer 5 long questions. I'm a slow writer, i want to watch out for spelling mistakes

>>788633
They are trying to fit in with the normies. I have lost count how many times a normie asked me if I was autistic. Not even online.

>>788696
Autism is not merely a social disorder
It’s a neurocognitive disorder that affects your motor skills and processing speed
If autism was just social awkwardness it would be solved already

Actually it probably wouldn’t in this current cultural climate because awkwardness is overpromoted as wholesome.

>>788696
You can't 'just change bro' what you have a sensitivity to. Literally I've been living with ARFID my whole life and your dumb ass is gonna tell me "oh well did you just try not being like that"? Dumb fuck, how about I go and tell that to your cousin? Maybe he should just grow up and stop being autistic?

>>788735
Thats litterally not autism, even under the definition you'd use, thats Dyspraxia, a whole other neurological disorder.
>>788736
You can, I used to hate onions and peppers until I forced myself to eat them because I'm a not an asshole and i'll eat what people have cooked for me.
Funny how it's never the Palestinians or the Sudanese that have ARFID, but always westerners, what an odd coincidence ? Also funny that there are no picky eaters who exclusively eat vegetables !

>>788738
how the fuck would we know if there's sudanese with arfid? not like anyone is checking. maybe they just don't get enough to eat and die, or cope as best they can, or they eat the stuff they hate because they have to and are always miserable because of it. does the existence of starving children mean any other kind of suffering doesn't exist?

>Also funny that there are no picky eaters who exclusively eat vegetables !

Yeah almost like the 'picky eaters' have similar characteristics and have trouble with food with inconsistent texture because it's an actual illness. Any argument about me I can use about your cousin, and I'm sure you would find that very offensive when applied to him.

>>788741
You know, I think the Sudanese have other priority then being picky eaters, i think they'll eat whatever they get. Because being a picky eater is exclusively a modern, western phenomenon, it's therefore not a disease and more so just childish behavior due to parents not forcing their kids to eat their damn greens.

>>788756
So why should I give a shit about the suffering of your western KKKraKKKer KKKouSSin?

>>788756
This is a common stereotype
Picky eaters isn’t exclusively a western thing.
Also, western parents do force kids to eat their greens.

Also, being a picky eater isn’t always about hating vegetables just because of taste.

Certain foods do have textures that feel offensive to the teeth and tongue

People forget that the major aspect of edible food is texture, not just flavor

You know that in may parts of the world, many people don’t like their food touching?
Otherwise why else would kids be picky eaters?

>>788757
I'm not asking you to give a shit about him, I don't think he cares or even could understand who you are.
>>788761
You can only be picky in a society where wealth and ressources are enough so that you can avoid eating what you want.
You can get used to the texture by just eating it enough, childrens being picky is a normal behavior that can be explained by the human need to avoid dangerous food, but with time, as they see that the food isn't dangerous they become less picky.
Feeding a picky child is a tedious and annoying task, and it's easier to make them eat nuggets or whatever easy and tasteless food. But it's not good for them child.

>>788766
So why do some children overcome 'picky eating' and others don't? Is it just down to the parents not trying, even though 'mild' autism occurs in all kinds of families? Or are those kids flawed in some way? If the latter doesn't that suggest that there's some kind of difference in them?

>>788795
it's up to the parents, yeah. Some kids are more stubborn and annoying then others, so parents give up, and kids never grow up.

>>788766
I’ve been to the Caribbean and met a lot of picky eaters there.
And mind you, they don’t have near the amount of convenience in food as North America

>>788798
I can't imagine there are some in Haiti

>>788766
>I'm not asking you to give a shit about him, I don't think he cares or even could understand who you are.

Fair enough, but don't you want as big of a group as possible to care about his welfare and advocate for more support for him, including me? Don't you think that by engaging in this crusade against people who are 'not autistic enough' (I got a diagnosis when I was like 13 BTW) you are just willingly engaging in divide and conquer against the disabled community? It's exactly like 'LGB without the T', like you think that by castigating some other group, the mainstream will then support you? If you give up the 'mild' autists, who is to say next the government won't just go after your cousin and say that well okay, maybe he's autistic, but he's not as bad as some kids who are smashing down the walls, beating up their parents and smearing shit everywhere, so maybe his parents just need to work harder? There's budget cuts to make to pay for the 45th battle of the Hormuz, we all have to stop expecting others to help us and grow up.

My point is, they will never reward you for being a scab. If you willingly engage in wrecking against your own community then you're just a useful idiot of the bourgeois. Solidarity forever.

>>788797
If someone is incredibly stubborn and annoying about food specifically do you not think that's evidence that there is some kind of issue which makes them different from other children? Or you just think they're born 'childish' and 'stubborn' or whatever pejorative you can use to make it their fault?

>>788469
This.
I tire of the “keep on keeping on” sentiment that society oversells to low prospect people

>>788797
>and some kids never grow up

Idk
being a picky eater isn’t that big a maturity issue as you think

>>788799
You don’t have to imagine it.
They exist.

>>788804
Look I'm not saying life is fair or that you just need to work harder, there should be systems to help everyone to flourish, but at the moment those systems are seriously inadequate and limited. Ultimately, even the people you love will probably not be able to help you as much as you need - they have their own problems. You have to try to help yourself as much as you can. That can be by accessing welfare or advocating for your own health and getting access to medications/therapies that will help. Or you can do the normie way and get a job and try save your pennies. The point is that wallowing in despair isn't going to achieve anything. Yes autism is a disability and we shouldn't lose sight of that but it's also part of what makes us who we are, and it's perfectly valid to have 'neurodivergent pride' or whatever.

>>788800
Because fake autists have just made things worst for my family, thats the whole point of what I say, things were better for them when their ressources weren't being stolen by fake autists.
I'm not saying they're not "autistic enough" I'm saying they're not autistic at all, and have absolutly no disabilites, par some comorbidities.
You're the equivalent to people taking over disabled parking spaces. I'm not looking for a reward by the government. You're talking in hypotheticals, I'm talking in actual material realities. In fact their issues aren't taken seriously anymore by people like you. And for that matter "autistic" activists going around claiming that autism isn't a disbability is more likely to remove help for my family then anything good for them.
>>788802
I'd check if they have some allergies, but no, kids can be stubborn sometime, thats life, thats why you need to tell them no, kids generally are picky eaters.
>>788805
It absolutly is a maturity issues, most people grow out of being a picky eater, I'm glad most of society is disgusted by picky eating.

>>788807
>I'd check if they have some allergies, but no, kids can be stubborn sometime, thats life, thats why you need to tell them no, kids generally are picky eaters.

Because kids have no autonomy or prospects. It’s just slavery in a way.

>absolutly is a maturity issues, most people grow out of being a picky eater, I'm glad most of society is disgusted by picky eating.

Society is more sympathetic to picky eaters. Also the reason it may seem picky eating is grown out of is because adults have freedom of choice.
Most people fail to realize but the maturity of adults is more superficially held together by their endowment of autonomy.
Take that away and see what happens

>>788807
If society was truly disgusted with picky eating, restaurants would never allow for a conditions or special requests

>>788806
Then you should realize that autistic kids need to educated a different way than neurotypicals. They are gonna be require more hands on training. In fact some special Ed schools do technical/vocational training

General education only promotes college and most people aren’t cut out for college and it’s tedious and expensive.
And then you’re left in student loan debt and lack of job prospects

>>788811
Kids are just full of prospects, wtf are you talking about ? They don't have autonomy in food because their parents are the ones cooking.
No, Most adults have no issue with eating whatever, picky eating is generally grown out off, sure some manchildren never grow up.
>>788812
They do this because of allergies or food interdictions, not because of picky eaters, chefs despises picky eaters.
When a friend cooked you up something, and then you refuse to eat it, you're rightfully seen as an asshole.

This is the most autistic thing I’ve ever seen

>>788848
No mirrors at home I assume.

>>788817
I honestly don't know what to tell you, you're either trolling or completely unreasonable, but I'll be content in the knowledge that I'm doing much more to help autistic people at my job helping people apply for benefits than you ever will with your complaining, and your opinion ultimately doesn't matter : )

>>788854
I have them but I just refuse to look at them

>>788855
You're an evil, selfish and shameless person. You are stealing services from people who need it in order to get advantages over others.

>>788858
Cry about it.

>>788860
And you're proud of it ? I bet you park in handicapped parking spots as well.

>>788861
I'm proud that my existence upsets people like you.

>>788863
It's not your existance that annoys me, it's the taking over of services for disabled people, I don't give a shit about people who park their car in general, but if they park it on disabled spaces, then yes, they're disgusting, you're the exact same. Why do you hate autistic people ? Why do you hate their family ? Why do you think it's correct to make their lives worst ?

>>788866
Blame the politicians, and the neoliberals, not me, you fucking idiot.

>>788867
No, for that I'm blaming you, you've made the situation worse for autists due to your selfish desire to justify your immaturity, your failure, I'll blame the neoliberals, the politicians and the psychiatrists for having conceded to the caprices of private school parents who desired an explaination for their failure at education.

>>788869
Damn that sucks. Enjoy being a hateful loser then. Maybe try get a job and help your family that way instead of trolling online.

>>788872
No, I'll do like you and pretend I have a disability for sympathy points, autism is already taken, so I'll fake down syndrome

>>788873
Good luck!

>>788874
You really want the last word now ?

>>788875
Yes. But you're right I should get back to my job actually helping people, this is just a little me time.

>>788876
Funny how you can't awnser anything I say, all you can do is resort to insults or some vague personal statement. You're not helping anyone but some bougie kids taking necessary ressources from working class family.

>>788877
What is there to answer, your "when did you start beating your wife" bullshit?

>>788878
"Sorry, I'll stop pretending to be disabled" Or at least explain to me how pretending to have a disability is a moral good.

>>788881
I'm not pretending. But you will never accept that so it's pointless for me to try defending myself.

This is not respectful to other people who want to use this topic though, so I'll stop, please go ahead and have the last word if it will make you feel better.

>>788882
You can't even prove it, sad !

There’s no such thing as disability at all, you’re just weak willed.
>but I have no legs
Because you’re a bitch, grow them like everyone else does

I very much support a voluntary cure for autism. I wish i there was a way to redo the first 25 years of my life without the autism.
Nobody deserves a childhood without any friends.

>>791233
Maybe you'd be less lonely if you weren't pretenting to be disabled for love !

>>791234
Gee, those meltdowns i had in middle school when one of my classmates would intentionally stare me down and talk loudly right in front of my face to make me cry, which forced my parents to move into some special school that was basically a concentration camp for disabled kids, were actually me pretending all along to rizz girls. Good to know.

>>791237
How many Ipad kids have stupid meltdowns again ?
Not a disability. Most real autists can barely even speak. You are actively communicating with me.