From what I can tell this British loli vtuber, Mimi Yanagi, who is an adult, commissioned hentai of her character and posted it on her social media for her fans. The British government raided her for this art and she's now a sex offender for life and might be prosecuted for CSAM. As a condition for being designated as a "sex offender" she's now required to use her real name on all her online social media accounts, putting her at risk of real life harassment or murder/rape, all for posting drawings lol…
And yet the west calls China a "police state" when I've never heard of anyone in China being arrested and doxxed for a drawing.
I know this has nothing to do with leftism but just thought it's weird.
>I've never heard of anyone in China being arrested and doxxed for a drawing.
There was a news thing a few years ago when a lolicon artist got imprisoned after he opened a patreon.
>>778234why would China care about a patreon? is there something else going on there?
>>778237oh that's interesting so it really was because he made money off of it. I wonder if the fact it was Genshin was a contributing factor.
Deserved
>>778228>>778229I guess anime is going through another moral panic epidemic
>>778242It's convenient how these moral panics always pop up whenever rich people are accused of horrific crimes against children, and always target harmless media to punish the plebs for caring about pedophilia. It comes off very much like "how dare you want justice for Epstein and Prince Andrew's victims, stop talking about it or we'll ban more cartoons, LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO".
Keir Starmer works for Mossad though so this isn't surprising that they're using targeting of media as their response to the rampant child sex crimes in the UK.
Funny how the police are meant to protect angloids from crime yet they arrest anyone with a different viewpoint. WTF?
Materialist explanation?
>>778249This so much.
And the biggest irony?
Most of our child sexual assault happens in houses, schools, churches, and recreational halls.
And there’s no ban/restrictions put upon those places.
But god forbid some loli fanart is posted on a forum
>>778254It also explains the massive push for digital ID's and porn bans immediately following the public outcry about Epstein. Like I hate when libs bring up Epstein over every random political issue, but in this instance I think it's actually legit. The bourgeois are using digital ID as a way to punish the public for their own crimes and discourage us from demanding accountability for any other billionaire pedophiles lest we lose more basic rights. It's an extremely effective psychological tactic. It also makes it really fucking hard to defend "lolicons" or any other degenerates/porn addicts because they can just point to "protecting victims" and "think of the children" type rhetoric and no one will dare fight back because MUH EPSTEIN.
idunno, I hope I'm good at articulating this point because I feel like I'm just rambling but this seems to happen a lot with any public scandal. like immediately following Uvalde instead of punishing the cops that let children get killed, they decided to replace resource officers with armed guards in every public school to punish the children for wanting to be safe. It's like the bourgeois's only response to scandal is making the proles eat shit until we're tired of it and give up.
>>778228Yeah our government is fucked, free my lolisho uyghas
Who is this siberia user that keeps posting isg threads outside containment.
Also this story is fake as fuck 'police approved twitter name' yeah sure. Another gift farm.
>>778262this thread has nothing to do with isg since it's unrelated to marxism.
and I'm pretty sure the public records are well…public and you can look it up if you care to. if this story is fake I'd be glad because the alternative is dystopian as fuck(not that the UK isn't already dystopian).
the fact you have so much faith in the british government to immediately call it "fake" without a source is funny tho.
Another pedo down
KKKritical support to the people’s police
This is western civilization personal 9/11
No more mister nice guys
I hate vtubers and lolicons but the UK government have gone bananas for this
Vtubers really are the artistic avant-garde of our times.
>>778280the idea of celebrity without identity is really fascinating. the fact your random next door neighbor can be a famous vtuber creates a sense of proletarian myth around it. like you don't have to be hot or rich or connected or engage in the usual "rich person" lifestyle of flesh streamers, anyone can do it. it's the ultimate anti-corporate celebrity.
Fuck lolicons but doxxing someone certainly is a bit much for the law, no? Just fine her and put her under observation etc
>>778283I dont trust Japanese crime statistics tbf
>>778284this tbh. they are notoriously bad and corrupt
>>778284True but I don't trust American or British crime statistics either. If everyone's lying then it just becomes who you choose to believe and why you choose them.
At the very least ignoring statistics, Japan is one of the safest countries on earth, or at least it was before the recent stuff. I've had dozens of female friends that visit Japan just from being active in weeb circles. Women in Japan can walk around alone at night in whatever clothes they want even in dimly lit streets and not feel like they're in danger. People regularly fall asleep drunk on the streets in Japan and no one bothers them or fucks with them, even when it's young women.
Meanwhile even men can't walk around safely at night in the UK or USA, and if you fall asleep drunk in the street you will 100% be robbed. Statistics don't mean much in the face of just walking around in a city at night and feeling the vibes, yknow?
So while it's correct to be distrustful of Japanese statistics, the fact is they do have an extremely safe society from visible real world metrics, and Westerners trying to impose their morality onto Japan and anime fans just because "muh crime muh victims reeee" is kind of laughable.
>>778286idealistic nonsense, japan is not a crime free utopia. How do you square the fact that the Yakuza exist with 'no crime'?
They just legalized crime, thats all that happened. They have agreements with one another not to go after the Yakuza if they dont kill outsiders, that means they get to drug deal and pimp as much as they want with impunity.
The courts are also corrupt as hell, sexual assault is normalized on public transport and women are 2nd class citizens, terrible place to actually live.
>>778287>idealistic nonsense, japan is not a crime free utopia. How do you square the fact that the Yakuza exist with 'no crime'?the yakuza is organized crime. they don't engage in harassing random people on the street you fucking imbecile.
in fact japan is partially extremely safe because the yakuza have a monopoly on crime in the areas they control, and "voluntarily" crack down on non-yakuza criminals in their area to prevent them from drawing police attention to their activities. you'll observe the same thing in areas with high levels of cartel control, usually they're much safer than the "warzones" like what's happening in Mexico rn.
this isn't a defense of cartels or gangs at all obviously, but Japan is extremely safe and there's just no real argument you can make that would disprove that because anyone can just go to Japan and observe it for themselves. Even the "dangerous" parts of Japan are extremely tame by western standards and the worst that'll happen is you'll get solicited by prostitutes to visit a hostess bar and pressured to rack up tons of debt buying them drinks.
Yes Japan's legal system is extremely corrupt, but that doesn't mean it's secretly Chicago and they're just covering it up lol.
fake story
>>778274>Critical support to a internet parasite monetizing on a family tragedykys
Pedophile infighting
controversial opinion, i don't think people should go to prison for making this, that being said i really don't like it either
>>778287I don't expect a stupid ignorant gaijin like you to understand but Yakuza only do wholesome crime like driving above the speed limit to bring crippled orphans at school in time or beat up corrupt policemen etc few gaijin know this
>>778310
I don't feel bad either but it's more about setting precedents.
If zogbots can come arrest you for bullshit like this what more can they do to you.
>>778312True, but in fairness they were already doing this to people who made pro-Palestine posts online so I'm not exactly sure what people were expecting.
>>778312>setting precedenceLiberal nonsense babble.
>>778310
I mean how do we know this woman is bad. Present some evidence of it first.
>>778310
you're assigning quite a lot of assumptions onto this person you've never met or interacted with. what makes you think she's a chud or encouraged doxxing/harassment of anyone?
I don't know her content either but it was sharty nazis that were mass reporting her so if they hate her then I'm on her side.
>>778326>a redditor said he works for the cops so it must be truethe absolute state of this site
she also worded the tweet in OP very deliberately with "I was arrested for my art, and my art alone" like her lawyer wrote it.
Yeah forgive me for not trusting redditors to know what the fuck they're talking about when it comes to police states.
>>778326Wtf is that supposed to prove? How is it so hard to believe the police got spammed by reports and did a subpoena to the US which they immediately granted because five eyes shit?
>>778332Also that redditor is retarded, how does something being online in 2019 mean it was a 'six year investigation'. Literally it's probably still on wayback machine. Maybe he is actually a cybercop since he's a dumb fuck
Stop bumping and responding to Internet Drama threads that feature fake stories around common online controversies that are a form of viral advertising strategy of parasocial parasites.
Please use some common sense, media literacy and stop spreading obviously fabricated stories. Stop being a useful fucking idiot for once, Christ.
>>778332I don't think any part of that reddit post is true at all. I don't think the US is involved in this at all. I don't think this was a 6 year long investigation or international subpoenas were involved.
Believing redditors is always a trap.
Anyway here's the admin of kiwifarms, the doxxfag/dramafag hub of the vtuber sphere, who has himself been caught grooming real life little girls in the past, acting like he's on the moral highground when it comes to this case.
>>778335That motherfucker needs to have his mouth put on the curb.
But yet another example of how actual sex criminals love going after lolisho.
>>778334Do you seriously think that someone would fake being arrested for loli porn for clout? Like that is actually a crime in the UK. If the investigation wasn't real before it obviously would be when she posted that.
>>778334Leftypol's resident lolishit consumer brigade which is losing its shit everytime it is brought up in a non-positive context is getting baited hard here. Embarassing.
>>778335in case you aren't familiar with these fags
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms>In March 2019, Kiwi Farms republished both the livestream and the manifesto of Brenton Tarrant, the perpetrator of the 2019 Christchurch mosque shootings. Shortly after, website owner Joshua Moon publicly denied a request by New Zealand Police to voluntarily hand over all data on posts about the shooting, including the email and IP addresses of forum posters.[64] Moon responded aggressively and mockingly, calling New Zealand a "shithole country",[13][64] and stated that he did not "give a single solitary fuck what section 50 of your faggot law (referring to the Policing Act 2008) says about sharing [the New Zealand Police's] email."also the site's main purpose is harassing underage girls into suicide by grooming them into sharing nudes and then spamming them everywhere.
>>778338You can just as easily say the moral panic brigade who want to claim to be leftist while supporting people getting arrested for thought crimes are the ones getting baited
>>778337>Do you seriously think that someone would fake being arrested for loli porn for clout?Yes. Are you an actual retard or something? What year were you born in? <197X? How do you not know how the Internet works? Is this your first exposure to the streamer/v-tuber space? Posession of lolishit is the mildest controversy streamers have fabricated. Shit ranges from staging home evasions to drowning homeless people. How new are you? This is utterly embrassing for you, mate.
>>778340Nobody has been arrested. Stop spreading fake news while getting riled up over your shitty pet issue.
>>778334You know this is siberia right? Anyone can post about anything here. If you don't like it go back to reddit you fucking dweeb.
Also, insinuating that a real person would attach their real name to their social media accounts sharing loli hentai and publicly admit to being arrested for CSAM as a "PR stunt" just makes you sound fucking insane. holy shit dude.
(not to mention this vtuber has a years long history and you can just search their tag on baraag if you really care but ofc it's just loli hentai so I won't share it here. there's no way this is some "psyop" spanning multiple years of thousands of dollars of art commissions for…what exactly? lol) >>778344Why do you not believe it? With the deranged hysteria against lolisho, nobody would voluntarily fake this. Vtubers aren't the same as live streamer degenerates that constantly commit crimes and get off cause they're rich kids
>The same people that spring into action on this board whenever anyone doubts that the freedom to spread sexualized drawings of children is a leftist canary issue also fall for the most obvious PR Op in streaming history.
I am not surprised that those two low autism score groups have near 100% overlap.
>>778343
>noooo you can't care about anything that isn't Palestine
Laws on speech are the favourite tool of Zionist rats by the way
>>778347Why do you not believe this story exactly? If someone said on twitter they had been arrested for some other crime would you immediately say it's fake like this?
>>778345>You know this is siberia right? Anyone can post about anything here. Nope, fake Internet drama slop stories and their stupid consumers belong to /isg/.
>>778344>Nobody has been arrested.She literally said she was arrested and this news is spreading across the internet. If it's fake the UK government will come down hard on her for faking it. What exactly would be the benefit to her doing that?
>>778343The irony is, the same people sending money to Israel to bomb children's hospitals in Iran are perpetuating thoughtcrime legislation in the West so they can control what is allowed to be posted on the internet. And you somehow manage to twist it into being a non-issue because it's someone you don't like, even though they did nothing illegal and are just being used as a scapegoat for Epsteinites to continue raping children.
I won't call you a fake Marxist but you should reexamine your thought process here.
>>778350Maybe stop posting in the topic and just hide it if you don't like it. Retard
>>778351>She literally said she was arrested and this news is spreading across the internet. If it's fake the UK government will come down hard on her for faking it.Please read through this again and ask yourself whether this is something an intelligent person would believe in.
>What exactly would be the benefit to her doing that?Making retards like you who have strong feelings over the legality of sexualized drawings of children become free advertising agents.
>>778352It's not a topic. It's literally off-topic, keep your fake drama stories in /isg/, thanks.
>>778350>Nope, fake Internet drama slop stories and their stupid consumers belong to /isg/.isg shouldn't exist and it only continues to exist despite being off-topic to /leftypol/ because the mods don't want the board being flooded with hasan spam.
internet drama DOES belong on siberia since it's generally off-topic to leftism.
>>778347you've spammed this same message about "PR ops" like 10 times in the past 5 minutes without providing a single shred of proof beyond "just trust me bro", I'm starting to think you're the PR op?
>>778353>become free advertising agents.free advertising for what? all her social media is deleted/locked.
this is literally a story about government overreach and the anglosphere police state that, on its face every leftist should implicitly agree is a horrible thing, but because the subject is a vtuber that posts loli it's apparently a psyop lol. you know people you don't like can still be victimized by unjust laws? you aren't 12 man surely you have basic social skills beyond "anyone and anything outside my extremely specific interests is fake and gay and you should stop talking about it because it makes me mad"
>>778355>because the mods don't want the board being flooded with hasan spam.Negative parasociality is still parasociality you fucking freak.
>>778357I don't know what you mean by that but I'm gonna assume you think I'm some hysterical hasan anti. No, I don't really care about him, but that's literally why /isg/ continues to exist even though the mods declared general threads illegal over a year ago. And the notion that we should take discussions that are unrelated to leftism to the off-topic thread of the main, leftism-focused board instead of the designated off-topic board is really strange. Do you feel possessive over siberia or something? Is that what you mean by parasociality?
>>778361
Nice post but the fact you don't like vtubers has nothing to do with whether this woman should have been arrested. She wasn't arrested for being 'parasocial', how dumb can you be
>>778362This is some crazy apologia for one of the most deranged, alienated, exploitative and degenerate industries on the planet that is the online entertainment industry. You really got duped here, lmao. Well, I wouldn't expect someone who eats McDonald's for breakfast every day to be well-versed in the internal functioning of the meat industry, so yeah, this post is total garbage, congrats.
>>778364No one was arrested, holy fuck. You need serious medical evaluation right now. This is straight up early onset psychosis symptoms your are showing right now, holy fuck.
>>778366International (nerd adjacent) media is reporting about it. You are deranged.
>>778365>person engages in labor to earn a living in exchange for providing a service and giving them money is entirely optional and provides no real benefit to you except the streamer continues making content>FAKE FAKE FAKE YOU DONT ACTUALLY LOVE ME STOP BEING NICE TO ME WHY ARE YOU SUCH A PHONYWe're reaching levels of underage pseud I didn't think was possible. I thought Marxists typically came to terms with the concept of customer service work but I guess not. Do you also harass waitresses at applebees for not actually being interested in you?
>>778369They also reported that fake story of that kick streamer creating this hoax of trying to drown that homeless lady on stream which she faked, your point is?
>>778370I have worked in shitty industries like the food industry and there is a qualitive difference between a waitress at applebees and whatever this is, a mess that is like one paper thin degree of seperation from actual prostitution rings, big tech, the crypto industry and online casinos/money laundering operations and your attempt to normalize that shit just because your are the consumer of this slop exposes your own egoistical motives which you try to shroud in emancipatory ideology.
>>778372Are you so baby brained that you can't conceive that just because you personally don't like something doesn't mean it should be illegal?
>>778373Are you arguing in favor of prostitution rings, money laundering and crypto gambling now?
>>778374how are vtubers prostitution? you aren't receiving anything for donating. they don't even talk to you for it.
>>778361
Two users fell for blatant this LLM slop. No one even types like this, why do LLMs output something so alien when it's supposed to be a statistical average?
puritans won. pedocels losg
>>778374I think you should demonstrate an actual significant harm from it before it is banned (something more harmful than every other kind of celebrity/consumer culture I mean)
>>778393it's only one battle in the goonwar comrade, they can't defeat human lust
>>778228It's not as bad as actual cp since no kids are hurt. But still, vtubers don't contribute to society so no pity for "her" either
>>778251>different viewpointPeople interested in this stuff are gross and should be removed from society
>>778405>People interested in this stuff are gross and should be removed from societythis is actual nazi rhetoric btw
>if I masturbate to yaoi hentai that means I'm gay
>if I masturbate to piss play hentai that means I'm into piss play
>if I masturbate to footjob hentai that means I'm into feet
>if I masturbate to loli/shota that means I'm not ackshually a pedophile because they're not real it's just a drawling bro
>>778409I have masturbated to yaoi hentai, trap hentai, crossdressing hentai, bodyswap hentai, scat hentai, guro hentai, piss hentai, rape hentai, furry hentai, etc and none of those things apply to my real life interest where I'm just a normal heterosexual male with fairly vanilla fetishes like missionary/doggystyle and post-orgasm cuddling and saying "I love you" a lot during sex.
Maybe stop trying to judge people so hard for the fiction they consume when they know there is no one being victimized. Just because I play violent video games doesn't mean I'm a serial killer. Because I still have morals and humanity and ethics and a brain and can identify fiction from reality.
>>778407>pedos are gross<NAZIi wonder why the working class turned away from left wing politics
>>778412the working class is firmly on the side of not censoring the internet
I don't know what angle you're going for but you're not working class, and you glow, epsteinite.
Porn bans, ID verification laws, and "obscenity" laws are all just reactionary nonsense pushed by the bourgeois to punish the proles for the bourgeois's own crimes against children.
>>778410If they don't apply to your real life interests, you wouldn't masturbate to them broski.
It sounds like you have fantasies but are too deep in the closet to act on them.
>Lolita is a great book, I really emphasize with the protagonist and his plight because that's what most people who aren't pedophiles do when they read the book… right?
>>778417No, I just like it in fiction but don't like it in real life.
I've tried being "attracted" to men in real life but I just feel nothing for them. I've had femboys literally offer to cosplay our favorite vtuber and suck my dick and I declined because it just isn't the same. With hentai you literally can just draw anything and make it sexy if the artist is skilled enough and the plot is compelling.
Also GRRM wrote a very explicit and detailed rape scene of 14 year old Dany in the first GoT book, and under the UK guidelines for "simulated CSAM" that should be punishable since they've targeted people just for writing erotica about child characters. Weird how there's now government-approved CSAM I guess. Or maybe it's different because it isn't anime? idk. These laws are silly.
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Hey guys, so heads up: I am one of the users that has been pushing hard against the vtubersphere ITT and the exploitative nature of the industry. Most of my posts are using sage ITT.
I have just been banned for 3 weeks for 'rule-breaking' the rule I broke was 'Reactionary' yes, that was literally the reason given, lmao.
Apparently I have successfully appealed the ban because now I am able to post again. I am browsing leftypol, bareback, and AFAIK have a static home IP but there was no unban screen. So if due to some ISP fuckery I am ban evading without intending, well I am risking making very my last post in more than 10 years of browsing leftypol then and I didn't mean to evade. I have been posting when OldBO was still the 8ch board owner.
Anyway you should be aware that there are now apparently elements in the mod team that don't take too kindly if you shit on their personal hobbies and interests, like vtubers and they might have ties so some of those parasocial communities. This is eerily reminiscent of a recent incident on certain subreddits a few weeks ago where various moderators were caught unilaterally removing negative posts that spoke negatively about certain vtuber personalities (and subsequently removed).
I think most of you will agree that this is hugely problematic. You should be able to criticize a hobby, past-time and medium for its reactionary elements and even shit on them without getting the ban hammer because what's next? People getting banned for shitting on the casino mechanics in CS or Pokemon cards? People getting banned for shitting on Warhammer because it has a shitty plot and basically a big consumerist toy commercial just because a random mod is a warhammer fan?
So continue posting at your own risk.
>>778416>the working class is firmly on the side of not censoring the internetThe working class doesn't give two shits if you and your discord server with 15 fat retards with beard and glasses has 1 less loliporn artist to wank to. The only reason you make this out to be a huge problem is because the average channer is a individualist obsessed retard who thinks that coonsoming shit is the most important thing in life.
>>778416>if you aren't in favor of unlimited crypto casino access for minors you are an enemy of the working classlol, lmao even
>>778412>if I masturbate to yaoi hentai that means I'm gayNope.
>another chapter of "world is ruled by billionaire pedophiles I am powerless to stop so I take my frustration out on some random guy who jerks of to japanese drawings"
>>778432why are you letting your children access crypto casinos? is that not a parenting issue? why does your kid even have access to a credit/debit card if they're a minor?
>>778431>the average channer is a individualist obsessed retard who thinks that coonsoming shit is the most important thing in lifeSo is average working class person.
>>778435Do you think that forced child labor is a parenting issue that the government should stay out of as well?
>>778437First of all, what does forced child labor have to do with internet censorship?
Secondly, gambling ruins families, communities, and societies and should be banned across the board for being gambling, not because it's on the internet.
And finally, we should let children unionize so they can vote to stay home from school. 8)
>>778440If you asked the average worker if they'd rather ban cartoon porn or save $0.01 on their taxes from not having to financially sustain a government agency whose sole purpose is looking at cartoon porn, virtually all of them would vote for lower taxes.
Only an Epsteinite would think the working class wants the government involved in regulating cartoon porn. Because Epsteinites just love controlling the lives of the proles no matter how insane it is.
>>778440You know what, you are right, I dont know why I said that. That would be an improvement, average working class person is a spooked retard with politics mostly determined by TV and facebook posts.
first they came for the vtubers and I did not speak up because I thought they kinda deserved it anyway
>>778442>working class personsubtle
Not really a fan of all that arrogant PMC-style anti-proletarian discourse, straight from the anti-German playbook, painting workers as a gray mass of bigotted cattle.
>>778441If you asked about the average working class person about the lolirapist1448 twitter drama, they would either ask you wtf are talking about or at the very very worst call you a pedo.
>>778442>You know what, you are right, I dont know why I said that.True
>That would be an improvementFalse
>average working class person is a spooked retard with politics mostly determined by TV and facebook posts.Half true, at least in burguerland. In some other countries, False.
>>778446I also don't like the way reactionaries use "workers" to couch their own bigotry as some sort of "social reality" that you just have to accept as the masses' bigotry even though it's just them.
Working class people really do not care about loli cartoons, which is why they were legal in the United States for decades and got constant pushback any time a politician tried to change it despite there being no political lobby for lolicons or anything. This is recently changing in Republican states, coinciding exactly with the push for things like digital ID laws and porn bans, and yet chuds on this fucking site will insist it's ok because it's someone they don't like being victimized, completely missing the point that fascism always uses protecting children as an excuse to exert more power over your life in insidious and increasingly controlling ways. Working class people can see this, the 1st amendment is like the most well known of them all to anyone without a college education. It's in fact the PMC puritans trying to legislate morality that have to catch up to the working class.
>>778416ur calling people epsteinites for criticising pedos uygha
>>778451>criticizingmorality policing
>pedosadult women who commission cartoons of their OC character and distribute it to other adults with a clear "MDNI" and "18+ only" in all their socials
stop being so dishonest. we know your tricks and leftists aren't in the business of policing morality. your kind just want to pass the burden of "punishing predators" onto innocent proles minding their own business so you can avoid prosecuting actual literal pedophiles in every single western government. how is this woman being targeted for drawings by the same government that let Jimmy Saville go free until his deathbed despite hundreds of allegations of actual rape and child abuse? You're a moron if you think prosecuting cartoons is somehow in any way a step in the right direction when it comes to punishing Epsteinites. These people don't use cartoons, they use real children, and you enable them by focusing all your ire on "icky cartoon porn" like the fucking goycattle you are.
>>778229>because they hate anime lolbased
The cognitive dissonance required to remove porn of a child from drawn porn of a child and say one os pedophilic but not the other is staggering.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised because we're on an imageboard.
>>778458were any children harmed in the creation of that drawing?
>>778459>One act is harmful towards children therefore it is pedophilic >One act is not harmful towards children but still sexualizes therefore is not pedophilic Just admit you're a pedophile upset you're getting dunked on while the elites can do what you dream of with impunity.
Petite-pedophile
wtf did vtubers and anime do to trigger a government chimp-out?
>>778469just not be conforming
>>778461sounds schizo, videogames also don't cause violence, why you need to have chimp outs over innocuous shit like art fetish shit ?.
internet makes people retarded.
>>778486I wouldn't entirely rule out the option that you're talking to an LLM
>>778486>equating consuming violent media to being sexually attracted to drawings of childreni shiggy
I would look at people who say they love Martyrs the same way I look at people who love loli porn.
zoomers petitioned for this shit.
>>778488>>equating consuming violent media to being sexually attracted to drawings of children>they both may be taboo for humanty but one is lustful and other is bloodthirsty so it's not the same !!!neither is happening with anyone real nor target the real in any meaningful way so it's a nothingburger to be getting hanged over it, simple as.
>>I would look at people who say they love Martyrs the same way I look at people who love loli porn.>bro these fucked up shit for me is so bad you bad if you like it.touch grass buddy, and not a drawing of a grass tuff, it's conection with nature not with a inexistant idea.
>>778461>>One act is harmful towards children therefore it is pedophilic >>One act is not harmful towards children but still sexualizes therefore is not pedophilic yes that's generally how legislative ethics works; if a crime is victimless then it's a waste of time using taxpayer money to punish people for it.
should we ban violent video games because a couple mass shooters turned out to have played fortnite?
>>778228>not even a vtuber>no evidence of any of this happeningyou retards are falling for bait meant for chuds lmao
>>778535>no evidenceI'm convinced there's like a coordinated online campaign to repeat this lie over and over again on this specific case. Never in my life on the internet have I seen people so readily defend government tyranny by claiming it's fake unless the government confirms it to be true.
This girl's real life name was publicly doxxed, you can confirm that on Twitter and look her up if you want to.
She has a long history going back to mid-2025 of posting thousands of dollars of hentai art commissions, you can confirm this on baraag. All that content is now deleted from the internet except when posted by the artists themselves. She has scrubbed ALL of her socials of any kind of hentai.
She has a public post in the OP, likely crafted by her lawyer with VERY specific terms of what she was arrested for and what her bail conditions are, and they fall in line with the UK's past history of targeting simulated CSAM with a harshness that is never seen against Epsteinites.
But I've observed both here, and on 4chan, and on sharty that Epsteinites continue to call it "fake news" and insist she's just faking the whole thing for attention, even though numerous people and news outlets have reached out to the British authorities and received nothing debunking it, which would happen immediately if it was fake given the online public outcry.
And most of all: What the fuck would her angle be if this was all faked? She has no patreon or way to contact/donate to her, she deleted or locked all of her socials, she has no means of profiting off of the engagement on her story. So why the fuck would someone go to these lengths just to fake a story about something we know the British government already does, and that they have bragged about doing for years?
It just makes you sound like a gullible retard if you somehow aren't a bot and yet keep posting this "ITS LE FAKE" spam.
>>778534Of course not.
I can see how this can be misconstrued, as this thread is explicitly about government censorship of media.
It's entirely my bad for engaging with the same anon I've engaged with multiple times over their attempts to allude the title of pedophile for regularly masturbating to lolicon porn.
>>778538 (me)
>alludeelude
>>778538If someone who masturbates to drawn depictions of children is a pedophile does that mean someone who plays violent video games is violent? Does the mere simulation of the act make you guilty of being a societal undesirable and therefore worthy of the gulag?
>>778541>If someone who masturbates to drawn depictions of children is a pedophile does that mean someone who plays violent video games is violent?<Does being sexually attracted to simulated images of children make me a pedophile? Think about the artistic merit those images, aren't they similar to le fortnite?I brought up Martyrs specifically because it's just thinly veiled misogyny disguised as an art house film. There is as much artistic merit in a 30 minute montage of beating and raping a woman as there is in pornography of a cartoon child. If you enjoyed Martyrs, I believe you're a misogynist and if you masturbate to underaged hentai you're a pedophile.
>Does the mere simulation of the act make you guilty of being a societal undesirable and therefore worthy of the gulag?<GuiltyBeing a pedophile is no crime, acting on it is. This is a clear distinction that pedophile apologists make. It doesn't make you any less of a pedophile.
>>778542>I brought up Martyrs specifically because it's just thinly veiled misogyny disguised as an art house film. There is as much artistic merit in a 30 minute montage of beating and raping a woman as there is in pornography of a cartoon child. If you enjoyed Martyrs, I believe you're a misogynist and if you masturbate to underaged hentai you're a pedophile. ngl you just sound like a chud. I've watched Martyrs twice and while the story is really stupid there are more layers to the film than just "horror porn go brrrr" and the audience's role in watching it with the expectation that it's horror porn out of morbid curiosity is literally part of its "message" so to speak.
I don't like the film, but you reducing a piece of art to "just violence against women" is just extremely reductive and chuddish.
>Being a pedophile is no crime, acting on it is. This is a clear distinction that pedophile apologists make. It doesn't make you any less of a pedophile.What's the purpose of the label if not for social ostracization? What's the difference between a "pedophile" who consumes fictional media and someone like GRRM who writes explicit sex scenes involving children but with the consent of the entire media industry and pop culture? Is there literally any point to this distinction when I know you for a fact do not consider applying the same kind of judgement you hold for lolicons onto "professional mainstream pedophiles" like him? It just seems like a way to bully people for something you don't like, and then post "based, nothing of value was lost lolxd" when they're victimized by fascism.
I'm not advocating we support or normalize pedophilia, quite the contrary actually. I think pedophilia should be a label reserved for those who actually victimize children so we can properly ostracize them for their crime and not dilute the label in any way. I don't think fiction has any place in handing out these labels that do nothing but provide us an easy way to hate someone. Particularly when, as in the case in the OP, the person will now be branded a sex offender and put on the registry for the rest of their life with every potential employer now knowing what they get up to behind the privacy of their own home. Is that fair to them, merely for consuming a cartoon?
Like it seems clear to me the goal with expanding the label of "pedophile" onto consumers of random fiction is just to muddy the waters over what people like Epstein do on the regular, to make it seem like it's totally normal behavior your next door neighbor might get up to, and to pollute sex offender registries with victimless criminals so you can't even tell off a glance if someone moving into your neighborhood is an actual piece of shit. It creates this social dynamic where the public is now expected to consider "oh, but did he do something actually bad?" when they find out someone is a pedophile or labeled as one, and like, the title itself should be reserved for people who actually have done something bad, there should not be any "harmless pedophiles" and people shouldn't be able to say "yeah I'm on the sex offender registry but it was for a bullshit reason man". Promoting or even allowing these injustices by labeling the victim a pedophile for not-actually-harming-any-children just seems shortsighted.
>>778542Oh no the thoughtcrime woe is me I deserve prison :^(
>>778540>getajob gif spammer downplaying a communications crackdownOf course he'd be a British flavored glowie. Burger glowies and krumpet glowies are the two least subtle kinds.
jackin it to hentai kids is suspicious af but this is excessive
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