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555 posts and 185 image replies omitted.>>798596oh no not the intelligentsya!
>>798914Wait, aren't you that uyghur who posted bait on /leftypol/ about your shithole banning LGBT? You have no moral right to even talk shit about Ukraine.
>>798900Do you have any proof that rusich are neo Nazis? I’m not trying to say you’re wrong I just can’t really find any evidence of it
>>798952It's not a swastika, it's a kolovrat. Which is basically a swastika, but you really should call it what it is.
Best thread in /siby/ imo, btw, but
>>799358What him problem w grunge?
Grunge gr8.
>Vidrel, great Grunge artist from Nervonae, titled Kurtz Kombaine>>799358https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1930/hrr/ch04.htm
>This dim, equable and “well-bred” man was cruel – not with the active cruelty of Ivan the Terrible or of Peter, in the pursuit of historic aims – What had Nicholas the Second in common with them? – but with the cowardly cruelty of the late born, frightened at his own doom. At the very dawn of his reign Nicholas praised the Phanagoritsy regiment as “fine fellows” for shooting down workers. He always “read with satisfaction” how they flogged with whips the bob-haired girl-students, or cracked the heads of defenceless people during Jewish pogroms. This crowned black sheep gravitated with all his soul to the very dregs of society, the Black Hundred hooligans. He not only paid them generously from the state treasury, but loved to chat with them about their exploits, and would pardon them when they accidentally got mixed up in the murder of an opposition deputy. Witte, who stood at the head of the government during the putting down of the first revolution, has written in his memoirs: “When news of the useless cruel antics of the chiefs of those detachments reached the sovereign, they met with his approval, or in any case his defence.” In answer to the demand of the governor-general of the Baltic States that he stop a certain lieutenant-captain, Richter, who was “executing on his own authority and without trial non-resistant persons,” the tzar wrote on the report: “Ah, what a fine fellow!” Such encouragements are innumerable. This “charmer,” without will, without aim, without imagination, was more awful than all the tyrants of ancient and modern history.
>But why did the people repay with such open hatred a tzarina who, in the words of Paléologue, had so completely assimilated their soul? The answer is simple. In order to justify her new situation, this German woman adopted with a kind of cold fury all the traditions and nuances of Russian mediaevalism, the most meagre and crude of all mediaevalisms, in that very period when the people were making mighty efforts to free themselves from it. This Hessian princess was literally possessed by the demon of autocracy. Having risen from her rural corner to the heights of Byzantine despotism, she would not for anything take a step down. In the orthodox religion she found a mysticism and a magic adapted to her new lot. She believed the more inflexibly in her vocation, the more naked became the foulness of the old régime. With a strong character and a gift for dry and hard exaltations, the tzarina supplemented the weak-willed tzar, ruling over him.
>On March 17, 1916, a year before the revolution, when the tortured country was already writhing in the grip of defeat and ruin, the tzarina wrote to her husband at military headquarters: “You must not give indulgences, a responsible ministry, etc. … or anything that they want. This must be your war and your peace, and the honour yours and our fatherland’s, and not by any means the Duma’s. They have not the right to say a single word in these matters.” This was at any rate a thoroughgoing programme. And it was in just this way that she always had the whip hand over the continually vacillating tzar.
>After Nicholas’ departure to the army in the capacity of fictitious commander-in-chief, the tzarina began openly to take charge of internal affairs. The ministers came to her with reports as to a regent. She entered into a conspiracy with a small camarilla against the Duma, against the ministers, against the staff-generals, against the whole world – to some extent indeed against the tzar. On December 6, 1916, the tzarina wrote to the tzar: “… Once you have said that you want to keep Protopopov, how does he (Premier Trepov) go against you? Bring down your first on the table. Don’t yield. Be the boss. Obey your firm little wife and our Friend. Believe in us.” Again three days late: “You know you are right. Carry your head high. Command Trepov to work with him … Strike your fist on the table.” Those phrases sound as though they were made up, but they are taken from authentic letters. Besides, you cannot make up things like that.
>On December 13 the tzarina suggested to the tzar: “Anything but this responsible ministry about which everybody has gone crazy. Everything is getting quiet and better, but people want to feel your hand. How long they have been saying to me, for whole years, the same thing: ’Russia loves to feel the whip.’ That is their nature!” This orthodox Hessian, with a Windsor upbringing and a Byzantine crown on her head, not only “incarnates” the Russian soul, but also organically despises it. Their nature demands the whip – writes the Russian tzarina to the Russian tzar about the Russian people, just two months and a half before the monarchy tips over into the abyss. >>799360Oh my god, trotzKKKy, decide if you want to be a novelist or a revolutionary, ffs
>>798900i didn't say anything positive about russia. did you even read my post retard? but since you brought it up here. Compare the length of these two articles
Nazi Monuments in Russia (1, privately owned, on private property)
https://archive.ph/EwLdVNazi Monuments in ukraine (tons, publicly owned, government funded, mostly in West Ukraine, which is the region most loyal to the government and against the separatists)
https://archive.ph/tBrSa >>798900btw my position is that russia and ukraine are both reactionary bourgeois governments, because of the western backed shock doctrine that wiped away all trace of soviet culture, and now NATO has nazified the entire region and is actively making things worse. since you never bothered to ask. but my question was on topic, and you ignored it:
i wonder if tats was mindbroken by 2022. radlibs all sided with neo nazi glowed up azovites in ukraine. most of them coped by pretending nazi ukrainians are made up, but a few doubled down and decided nazism was based. Maybe tats is that second type? >>799384so true. russia is hecking nazi. better support NATO backed ukrainian nazis so we can replace putler with an even bigger nazi
>>799385if russia really wanted to denazify ukraine why dont they do it at their own fucking country? eastern europe is a shithole filled with neonazis, but putler doesnt care if theyre politically convenient to him
>>799358The 80's produced perhaps the worst music in recent history and Comrade Cobain saved us from it.
>>799443The 80s are the most popular era for 'retro' music by far, but ok go off
>>799443The early 80s was good. It got corny after 1983
>>798916>uyghur who posted bait on /leftypol/ about your shithole banning LGBTNope, I don't post on /leftypol/, haven't done so in months. Makes sense that you'd bring up idpol though, typical lib-bait.
>>799443>>799463>not listening to The Smiths, Rites of Spring, Spacemen 3, McCarthy, Cocteau Twins, Beat Happening, Galaxie 500, Pizzicato Five, Flipper, The Pixies, Talk Talk, Sonic Youth, Strawberry Switchblade, Husker Du, Mazzy Star, The Pastels, Dead Can Dance, Bitch Magnet, Aztec Camera, The Jesus and Mary Chain, Big Black, The Dream Syndicate, The Wedding Present, The Minutemen, A.R. Kane, Age of Chance, The House of Love >>799384>here look at my cherry-picked individuals!Lets see, Barshakov and related
<Russian National Unity or All-Russian civic patriotic movement "Russian National Unity" was an unregistered neo-Nazi, irredentist group based in Russia and formerly operating in states with Russian-speaking populations. It was founded in 1990 by the ultra-nationalist Alexander Barkashov.<Dissolved in 2000 Oh wow, it's fucking LARPer remnants from a defunct party, just like I predicted. By that metric I can show dozens of photographs of soviet symbolism and flags and patches used by Russians in Ukraine, it doesn't change the fact that the government is capitalist. Moron.
>>799413 >Do it in their own countryThey do. While monarchist-nationalists sometimes get a pass from the government, they are mostly minority groups and heavily opposed by a large portion of the population, and politically have no sway. They're also not Neo-Nazis. Actual Neo-Nazi groups in Russia are banned and are arrested very often. Parties that managed to be created in the 1990s were dissolved by the 2000s and their remnants are politically inconsequential. Fuck the hell off.
>>799442 This
>>799524My post applies to you too, I don't care about anti Ukraine shit either
>>799569Critical support to neo-nazi death squads in their fight against Tuareg imperialism.
>>799569>>799586Sure. Then again no one cares since it’s happening in Africa, just like nobody gives a shit about whatever’s happening in that continent unless their favorite influencer whom they have a parasocial relationship with brings it up (e.g., Rwanda’s proxy invasion of eastern Congo to loot it of its resources).
Sad but true, even doe a lot of these conflicts have some degree of western and Israeli involvement (e.g., Rwanda being a key French security partner in Africa, the UAE funding terrorists in Sudan to ensure an Israeli ally takes power for the country’s strategic position in the Red Sea that contains an important Israeli port site).
>>799413>keep trying to re-anchor the conversation on NATO<but russia bad? hurr durr their denazification claims are hypocritical lies>Russia and ukraine are products of NATO-meddling in the region going back 30 years<fucking zigger>i never said I liked russia or that denazification is a real thing they're doing<fucking ziggerrinse and repeat this conversation 100000x
>>799384>apoliticalnot a thing
>But Russia is better than heckin Nazi Ukraine! Heil Putler o algo!wasn't stated. just pointed out that the metrics show a clear difference in just how much nazis have sway in either country. there should be zero in both but ukraine is clearly more aligned with the west and clearly more glowed up with CIA trained neo nazis. all this reflects is that NATO has had an easier time fucking up and nazifying ukraine. Russia isn't "denazifying" anything but NATO is nazifying everything including Russia. Gonna acknowledge this or just screech zigger zigger zigger zigger like a racist teenager? It's really bizarre how you guys do this btw. Way to prove you're not a nazi by revealing that your first instinct is to assume every anti-NATO statement is a pro-russia statement and then conclude that the best thing to do is to turn a slur for black people into a slur for russians.
>>799609Poor Shelomov, NATO forced him to attack someone again.
>>799612>ukraine is clearly more aligned with the west* the ukrainian govt. the people of ukraine reject the govt. don't even know why i'm trying to be nuanced and edit my own post when I know you're just gonna screech zigger some more and say I like Putler
>>799613are you capable of a good faith? no i don't think reactionaries are "forced" to do anything by NATO. I think NATO supported the destruction of the soviet union, and the rise of Yeltsin. the only reason NATO has any beef with Putin's government is because it's not reactionary enough, and doesn't behave like a puppet, like Ukraine's government, which contributed troops to the NATO coalitions invasion of iraq, and after the 2014 coup took out IMF loans.
Ukraine's government got couped even after being obedient. That is my point. They clearly want to do the same thing to Russia. That is the point. NATO always wants to make the region MORE reactionary. If they could replace Putin with someone more reactionary they would. That doesn't mean "support" russia or "support" putin it means acknowledge the actual most powerful actor in this whole fiasco, which is NATO, which has meddled in the region and done its best to provoke conflict and empower reactionaries, both through covert and overt means.
Owning CP is legal in Russia, while all porn in Ukraine is banned but the fact is that this means the average ukro normie has no incentive to make a distinction between adult and youth еготiса, so most tolerate it unless they get gringofied.
>>799626read the post more slowly
Can't even have a nice thread without you kids ruining it
>>799569 >Sahel Alerte, a French funded supposed independent news group and another account with unclear origins. >A single photograph with no details of where it was actually taken, when and by whom. <It must be da russkiez! You might as well post Fox News, for all the credibility this shit has.
This photo has no fucking details and is essentially hearsay until further proof of Russians being involved is provided. This is much more likely to be done by the various involved extremist groups who are known for dismembering people (anyone can go on 4gif and request/find videos of this). Furthermore the majority of combat operations by the African Corps has been at range, using drones, attack helicopters, strike aircraft and so on. Most of the land operations have been by the Malian military forces themselves.
>>799648>Owning CP is legal in RussiaI'm fairly sure this is untrue. Child exploitation (including sexual) and accessing sites that contain materials of such is illegal as of 2012 at the very least.
Made a new thread since this one is full. Russo-Ukrainian war discussion is BANNED in this one.
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