why are breedoids like this? is it out of spite? sadism?
171 posts and 4 image replies omitted.>>782044Where did I do that?
That’s your assumption.
You can only come up with accusations of racism sexism and pedophilia because I explain in full detail why it’s not good to raise kids in jail
>>782047A woman's body is not like a fucking car, it isn't an external object, you misogynist.
>>782049you need a drivers license so you dont kill people. you need to be a responsible parent so you dont abuse your child. basic premise that you somehow still cant understand
>>782047This. Leftypol cries too much about oppression and excess from bourgeois but then they wanna adapt the same entitlement syndrome of the bourgeois for the proletariat
>>782049He didn’t .
>>782052I agree that bearing live young is not a "natural right" and should require that the parents prove themselves first somehow. How, I don't know and don't care
because I am gay lololol >>782052I suggested that and Leftypol anons get upset about it
Leftypol thinks that having rights should not come with burden of competency
>>782046>And how am I a pedo?The pedo thing is based on the fact that you seem to have a fixation on teenage girls and deploy two rhetoric strategies that are very common among pedophila apologists:
The first rhetoric strategy is the attempt to erase the distinction between adulthood and childhood which is often done with similar faux-progressive talking points that on the surface seek to strengthen the autonomy of children.
The second rhetoric strategy is to use examples of child abuse to create a sort of literal scapegoat to absolve yourself from your sins, create a weird distinction between the 'good pedophile' and the 'other childabusers', in this case being already criminal child abusers.
>>782052That's cool and all but you are comparing a women's body and her control over it to a piece of machinery that needs a license for operation which is like incredibly objectifying, in like the literal sense of the word objectifying,lmaooo
>>782058youre just covering your ears and choosing what you want to hear
>>782058I am covering my ears because of the disgusting misogyny your are shouting.
>>782057I bring up teen pregnancy because female convicts having babies is the same level as that. It’s not pedophilia and you don’t seem to care about childrens autonomy anyway seeing that you don’t mind them born in seedy environments
>>782064>I bring up teen pregnancy because female convicts having babies is the same level as thatNo it isn't. Adult women aren't children.
>you don’t seem to care about childrens autonomy anyway seeing that you You just keep re-affirming anything I have said so far with any further post you make.
I know exactly what you are. I ain't gonne be impressed by your false comparisons and 100 year old pro-eugenicism arguments.
>>782057Also, nowadays, eighteen thru twenty four is being considered children which people like you are championing
>>782066Well, here we go, I unironically was doubting you and it took 100 posts but you can always count on online pedophiles like you to steer any conversation towards age of consent discourse. Congratulations.
>>782065> No it isn't. Adult women aren't children.Never Sai they were
Adults having children if they’re incarcerated is the same level of teen pregnancy
If it’s not, how can a female convict go to the store to buy milk without having to get special permission?
How can a female convict take her child to go outside to play?
How can a female convict be allowed to work without special permission?
>>782049Yeah you're not arguing in good faith.
>>782069Are you comparing women's bodies to machinery in good faith or bad faith? Well, in the end it is irrevelant for it to be highly misogynistic, you know.
>>782069This. They’re throwing around “misogyny “ “pedophilia” and “racism” as indignatory exclamations because they cannot come up with good arguments
>>782072He didn’t. And you know it. Besides Leftypol compares men to objects all the time even shamelessly suggesting aborting human male fetuses and making wars to get rid of “excess” males.
There’s more misandrist terms used here that isn’t called out than misogynistic terms
>>782067People like you unironically believe young adults are infants that shouldn’t be allowed to have families
The fact you refer to me as a pedophile suggests that you see 18-24 as children
>>780164>>780169>>780178the average imperial core worker was treated just as bad if not worse in 1850s england when marx had 7 kids. so i think the problem here isn't having kids, but guaranteeing a quality of life for those kids. but only people of a certain class can afford to give kids a quality of life. so the problem is class, not having kids. setting that aside I do think it makes more sense to have 1 or 2 kids instead of more than that. i.e. for society to continue functioning in its current form you do need to replace the workers 1 for 1, whether that is done under a commuinst or capitalist global economy is besides the point. Humanity's future depends on humans reproducing themselves. If your goal isn't a future of communism, but the extinction of a miserable humanity, then you are an antinatalist, not a communist. I don't say this as an insult. I get why you feel that way but there can be no reconciling an ideology that thinks humanity should have a future, with an ideology that thinks humanity should go extinct. There is also no political will to implement anti natalism successfully. Even the most optimistic victory scenario for anti natalists is just reducing the population by billions through forced sterilization. But some people will be determined to escape that regime and reproduce anyway. So the "problem" will continue.
>>782105There’s this anon on here justifying alllowing women to have kids in a poor state of living.
He thinks that questioning this is misogyny
>if you allow convicts to have children, then you should allow teens to have children too because… you just should okay???!
>If you're life isn't 100% (I'm the sole arbiter of what is perfect BTW), you shouldn't be allowed to have kids.
>Actually nobody should be allowed to have kids.
>Also teens should be allowed to have kids.
>Also I'm the only person who cares about kids which is why I would ban everyone from reproducing
What level of Reddit are we dealing with?
Leftypoltards will literally bust your balls if you dare to have kids in a way that doesn't meet their guideline and still think that 1984 gorg orwell is a fantastical scenario, half of you people are little Himmlers just dying to be a petty concentration camp bureaucrat lording over the rest of us
Total Prole Sterilization
>inb4 fascist
Think about the children. Proles cannot afford a decent upbringing for their offspring.
>>782347>>782349>>782350I think a large part if not most people need and desire some kind of benevolent dictator to help them run their lives. I don't think that's a completely disagreeable opinion and it makes sense. Unfortunately most would be dictators are not very good people or particularly competent they're just opportunists with no clear vision who are often very mentally unwell.
>>782347Leftypol literally encourages broke people to breed to spite the bourgeois not accounting for hygiene, safety, and influences
>>782416Tbh from my perspective having an external party dertermine who gets to breed and who doesn't is way too totalitarian for comfort.
>>782424Leftypol is pro totalitarian when it comes to sexual prospects and money but when it comes to reproduction they wanna open the floodgates
>>782347Yet you see no problem with wanting to arrest people for loli
>>782349Leftypol encourages lumpen to procreate but will go full fash over shota loli
Convicts having kids has material consequences
Loli does not
>You don't want to ban people from having kids? Fucking fascist, I bet you also want to outlaw loli.
How the fuck are these two connected, you absolutely dense motherfucker? Are you confusing people for some boogeyman of yours?
>Most people can't do anything without an authoritarian figure lording over them
Okay, how do you make sure your policies don't get abused by the chuds? How do you even implement the "nobody is allowed to marry and have babies anymore because I personally find it icky" policies without a very authoritarian worldwide government with a massive army? What to do with those who break those laws? What about the women who are already pregnant when the law gets passed, do they get rounded up for abortion?
>Leftypol literally encourages broke people to breed to spite the bourgeois not accounting for hygiene, safety, and influences
You sound like a eugenicist, no offense. Why are you so sure that this time we'll do it right?
So this chick might not even go to prison in the end. I didn't check the most recent news stories and she's getting another trial. Something about the evidence not being properly given in her first trial caused the verdict to get thrown out. She might just be able to raise her child after all. She also assaulted another inmate while in jail.
Normiegroids and IRL breeders are literally the intellectual bottom of the barrel (if you can even call them that). The actually smart people would never pop out a crotch critter.
>>782854>You sound like a eugenicist, no offense. Why are you so sure that this time we'll do it right?This is coming from the same board that celebrates bribers being criminalized for loli self OC art.
The same board that wants to kill people for sympathizing with liberal or right wing thought.
The same board that wants state intervention to bring up birth rates
If that’s not eugenics idk what is
>>784806Please don’t refer to children as crotch fruit
Crotch fruit would be the genitals
Also, it’s more that society treats children as sentient toys for adults
This thread is basically just a cringe exercise of a bunch of pedophiles engaging in what is commonly known as so-called moral distancing or what psychologists also call comparative minimization. Basically the people in here are piling on a category of persons they perceive to be more neglectful and abusive towards children than them, i.e. (ex-)convict parents as a form of gaining a type of (mental) absolution and rationalization.
'I might be a pedophile but at least I am not an abusive parent.' is equivalent to 'I might have beat my wife but I am not a murderer' for example.
That's why these weird pathological obsessions, sometimes racist and misogynistic, with teen pregnancy, age of consent, adulthood of women and lolishit keep cropping up again and again, as well as classical projection (chemical castration = limiting reprodutive rights of mothers.)
This whole thread is basically a long struggle sessions of a bunch of sick individuals.
>>784881What's your sickness?
>>782854>Okay, how do you make sure your policies don't get abused by the chuds?We kill them.
>How do you even implement the "nobody is allowed to marry and have babies anymore because I personally find it icky" policies without a very authoritarian worldwide government with a massive army?What's wrong with having an authoritarian one world government?
>What to do with those who break those laws? What about the women who are already pregnant when the law gets passed, do they get rounded up for abortion?They get killed, especially the breeder bitches and the brats. Nobody likes them anyway.
>>784809Killing people for sympathizing with libtards and rightoids is based and revolutionary.
>>784813Humanity as a whole is a shitstain, we should be wiped out and the world should start from scratch.
>>785741If you think about it, we have had proxie levels of one world governments in the past.
But in reality, that’s not really a good idea without subglobal sectors
>>780132>you guys are literally /pol/ but you replace aryan with proledisagree
>no, someone being working class doesnt make them automatically a good personagree
>these 2 are criminals and probably will treat their kid like shitagree
>>780138>parenthood gives you additional rights in jailsource
>>784881do you have any proof of your allegations that everyone who posted in here is a pedophile? does this logic also apply to you?
I hate natalists so fucking much. One of the most selfish, sociopathic, NPC-brained worldviews imaginable. A near-literal orphan-crushing machine.
>>785761At the very least in most prisons in the United States you get more privileges while pregnant. Male inmates probably don't get as much privileges. But speaking on a societal level you do get more privileges at the very least it makes you more relatable in the more established adult community, in fact having children is often what most helps most in establishing yourself in a community. Well that and establishing a long term relationship but children often follow.
>>785906That’s the problem.
Breeding is treated as the ultimate maturity license.
Posting in the mentally ill thread.
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