why are breedoids like this? is it out of spite? sadism?
They just want to fit in. Most adults seem to have kids.
They wanted kids I guess. Also women have an expiry date for such things and she is in jail for who knows how long.
>>780082>>780088both reasons are incredibly selfish
why put a child in this situation?
>>780111>>780088why are you criticising two proles that wanted to have a child? the bourgeois does much more damage to children every second that these two will do in all their lifes. also, i think if they really wanted that much to have a child (they tried several times a day for months) it is because they will put effort into raising it
Two consentual adults have decided to conceive a child. What part exactly is bothering you here? The adult or the consentual part?
>>780114>consensualretarded lib, people "consent" to shitty things all the time. you shouldn't use an heuristic that considers as equals a man raping a mentally ill woman who "consented" to "CNC", two loving adults having safe sex and capitalism (it is technically "consensual", which doesn't matter)
>>780113Those two were incarcerated on murder charges. They're not getting for ahwile.
>>780118did they kill proles or lumpen/pettybooj/boojs?
>>780116Who are you going around calling other people libs while having this much of paternalistic contempt for proles and especially a prole women who exerts autonomy over her own body and reproductive organs?
It was exactly this way of thinking (your kind of thinking) that let to prole women being subject to mass sterilization campaigns. Under capitalism there is no fundamental and qualitative difference between those people on this side of the fence and me on the other. I am not going to lecture women, especially those in cruel captivity, for exerting control over their own bodies, sorry.
>>780122Apparently they committed separate murders.
>>780128I am this
>>780113 so I congratulate this woman having a child
>>780113you guys are literally /pol/ but you replace aryan with prole. no, someone being working class doesnt make them automatically a good person, these 2 are criminals and probably will treat their kid like shit
>>780132The grandparents are raising that child anyways.
>>780132>criminalsyou are you defending the American gulag system?
>someone being working class doesnt make them automatically a good persongood persons don't exist and my point is that I am not really going to spend my time wokescolding proles instead of speaking about the wrongs of the bourgeoisie
>>780132>being working class doesnt make them automatically a good personWRONG
>>780133so theyre overworking their tired elderly parents just because theyre too irresponsible to think ahead? and the kids just supposed to grow up knowing both the parents are scumbags?
>>780134uygha they killed people. im sure youd have a different opinion if they had committed a crime that directly effected you, then you wouldnt be changing the subject to le bourgeoisie
>>780136What if they killed someone who was pregnant with the next hitler?
Surprised no one here is talking about how parenthood gives you additional rights in jail. Instead, a lot is talked about superstructural crap. There is something to be gained here, materially. Wasn't this supposed to be a marxist website?
>>780138Parenthood also gets you more in regular civilian life in my opinion. More privileges and more respect. Although it comes with more work unless you're like these two and pass on the responsibility to their own parents. But truthfully all parents pass the buck of child rearing to others in most cases. I mean you kind of have to to live in a society otherwise you end up with maladjusted people. You can't depend on biological parents for everything I don't think it's possible. Having said that I'd rather people not have children but not much you can do to stop people from breeding if they really want to.
>>780133The parents still have contact with their daughter through videocalls
>>780136>both the parents are scumbags?she literally killed her abusive husband that tried to shot her. And how they can be scumbags when they decided to rationally have a baby without even touching each other? That's true love, they talked through the months they were in the ameriKKKan gulag, and they fell in love, I have read an article and it moved me so much, such a beautiful relationship
https://wsvn.com/news/investigations/newly-released-video-jail-phone-calls-detail-miami-dade-inmates-plan-to-get-pregnant-without-physically-meeting/Watch this 5 minute video, it has interviews and such (it also features a black woman who is the director of miamo day correction, huge win for liberal feminism/antiracism!)
Idk the guy but Daisy Link is unfathomably based
>kill your abusive husband>get throw in jail>develop love through the vents>try to get pregnant multiple days a day and success>try to sue the prision to get out>trigger the gulag directors by saying "they should actually thank me, I have found a huge breach in their security, I haven'y even gotten a thank you yet" and get put in the psych unit for psychological torture>further expose how sick AmeriKKKa is>>780138She says in the call with her mom that she was motivated by that
>>780147Watch the video, they both seem like good people. He was probably put in prison by the WODiggers
>>780140Parenthood is the only job in the world where you’re forgiven for fucking up.
Our global culture of “respect your elders” gives parents a moral/social/legal blind spot to patronize/neglect their kids.
In fact there more complaints against parents giving children amenities.
People seem to have no problem with children being born en masse in cramped conditions
>>780140Parenthood should be sociolegally revamped.
Parents need to have mandatory third party adults to share legal authority of the children.
Our society has this bourgeois impression of child rearing where things are supposed to be anti worldly and hunky dory like in those family sitcoms
>>780155>>780156I hear a voice but I have no idea who it is. Guys who is this?
It's just pure sadism to pump out more children to support the baby business sector. Natalism is reactionary
>>780164It is true love + wanting to get out of prison
read the things posted here
>>780164Natalism is reactionary in how we objectify children as property and as avatars/alter egos of their parents
>>780164at this point im convinced that anyone having children in 2026 is just a genuine psychopath
>>780132>we need to do eugenics on criminalsTalk about sounding like /pol/.
>>780169Trvke. Children drain money and sanity. The toys and clothes you buy for them funnels your hard-earned money into the pockets of the bosses that control companies.
>>780174if you could choose your parents, would you ever choose 2 prisoners? what kind of life will that child lead? do you genuinely think its fair to bring a child into the world when they wont have a single chance to succeed?
1d4 = 3 + 4
1d6 = 2Test
>>780184>>780185Too scared to try? Watch these dubs
1d99 = 47 >>780182Do you think all prisoners should be sterilized?
>>780178Adults drain money and sanity way more than children do.
Adults buy products that goes to enrich corporations, but it’s ok because “Ima m adult therefore I can do what I want”
But because children don’t have rights, it’s considered ok to dismiss childrens personhood
>>780174>>780113Leftypol when two dysfunctional proles with criminal records and no job prospects decide to have kids : BASED
Leftypol when two young adults with no criminal record or mental illness choose to have kids: CRINGE
>>780190Do you think all mentally ill people should be sterilized?
>>780193You guys brand right wing people as mentally I’ll and needing sterilization
Also, I don’t understand why leftists are pronatalists while endorsing abortion and misopedia
>>780195Well, it's easy. As leftists we believe in women having the right to exert control over their own body and reproductive organs. So if a women decides to have a child she has the right to have a child and if she decides that she wants to terminate a pregnancy she has the right to terminate a pregancy. This is perfectly consistent, you see.
>>780196I too believe in female autonomy which is why I think there should birth control supplements in schools for teenage girls.
And it shouldn’t be left up to parental decision, especially fathers and/or religiopolitical conservatives.
But you see, a child in the womb is not some non person that can be easily rid of.
By this logic, adults whom are brain dead or disabled should also be killed when they become burdens on their family
>>780196>>780198I also believe that the decision to have kids should have mandatory homestead training.
Leftists like to talk about equality and justice but they fall into the same trap of objectifying Natalism like the right
>>780186 1d100 = 6Lets see
This chick would just keep having kids with criminal guys until she couldn't anymore. She had at least one kid with her abusive dead ex and then one with a guy who won't be out of prison for years. She doesn't really make good decisions but then again a lot of people don't especially in regards to sex or relationships. You go with what you can get.
>>780202HOW DO ROLL DICE???
>>780204it says in the faq section
>!XdY+Z rolls a X dices with Y faces, adding Z to the result >>780196except its not a decision that affects the woman solely. if you are a mentally ill criminal youre just going to abuse your child, leading to another mentally ill criminal in the world that will harm society
>>780081It's just pure instinct, like any other animal. Only us gays are freed from this bestial urge to procreate.
>>780211Passing cum rolled in a bag over a vent five times a day during a month is not basic instinct. They did not even touch each other
>>780209>will harm societyYou are a reformist
>>780228>>780211It would've made more sense if it was a bestial urge instead of whatever it actually is. At least if it's bestial you would've got to fuck
>>780228marx was a reformist
>>780228So I guess worrying about the potential conditions of children being born to dysfunctional adults is reformism huh?
>>780270Leftism is reformism relative to capitalism
>>780198>>780199>>780209Literally anti-choice and eugenicist talking points. What's happening here? Is this another sharty raid? The only thing that irks you people about this story that a female convict dared to exert her reproduce rights. No, convicts don't lose their reproductive rights, neither do patients, or members of any other marginalized group like poor people.
>>780081Communists should sterilize all criminals tbqh. These people are not even producing surplus value to billionaires so they have no use for society.
>>780081the fact almost no one ITT seems to realize the existence of a natural paternal/maternal instinct tells me you are all under 25 at most
this is such a weird random fringe news story why would you guys try to anal-yze it seriously.
>>780293That may be true but I think you got hold off on that if your facing 25+ years in prison. Maybe you need to realize that it's going to be a tad difficult being a mother or father while incarcerated.
>>780294Because it's funny. Or maybe it says something about society.
>>780287Exactly. It's either that criminals should be castrated or children born in jails should be adopted by another family so said children won't pick up criminal habits from their criminal biological parents
>>780283once again youre ignoring the rights of children because you dont wanna hurt the feefees of degenerate adults
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