/siberia/ - Off-topic

Individualism is actually a good thing and it’s misunderstood

What we have in the west isn’t individualism at all.

Marx was wrong, moreover, he destroyed the socialist movement

>>790294
that you bakunin?

I think public schooling should have all motivational/inspirational language restricted

i think that any serious leftist should work out at the gym with the goal of looking like (and being as strong as) ivan drago, and that all of the fat, bearded liberals you see in trot orgs are actively detrimental to the movement

>>790356
This isn’t an unpopular opinion at least on here

Public schooling should be mainly technical skill training first.
Either that or remove compulsory law for eight grade and up and have mandatory entrance exams for high school.
Students shouldn’t have to rely on academic skills for basic survival.

Hasan Piker is actually good.
idk how unpopular of an opinion that is across the entire leftist movement but it totally is here.

>>790361
It wasn't 3 years ago, but it is now.

ahem my unpopular opinion is uhm.

being dumb is more politically efficacious than being a well read scholarly sort, because most people are stupid and only respond to stupidity in kind. this is why donald trump's administration was so effective in amassing a following in the first place, and the reason why mucho texto words words words is purely masturbatory for the person writing.

The bourgeois are still revolutionary, at least certain sections are

>>790390
Not exactly true
You’re referring to being folksy.

Socialism is much closer to liberalism than people here think, and share a common origin, unlike fascism, which is anathema to both.

>>790394
I’ve always thought socialism shares more with fascism than with liberalism
A lot of what is considered “socialism” is just some quirky form of liberalism

>>790382
I'm glad that he exists but he's still a sellout and a dog shocker

>>790382
The ultimate blackpill is that he’s just okay.

>>790382
tomdaliberal showing his true colors

>>790441
oh god you again, i thought you were going to rope yourself?

>>790441
What is bigotry? Unfounded prejudice. At least, that’s the definition that I’ll be using here, and which will serve as a parameter for this discussion, considering how loaded the term has become in recent times. Without further ado, let’s get going. Lately I’ve seen self-proclaimed “leftists” and “communists” often engaging in the kind of bourgeois moralisms that they usually decry, but often targeted towards groups that are still socially acceptable to hate and bash (both rhetorically and physically) on much like gaybashing was popular in the 1980s. And honestly, that both saddens and baffles me. For once, it clearly shows how incoherent and unprincipled certain “leftists” can be, especially when they try to attack rightists for their bigotry and idpol crap, or do the same with woketards. Now, reactionary undercurrents of the kind seen in Bakunin’s and Mao’s writings and actions (Bakunin’s anti-semitism and Mao’s homophobia for example) aren’t unknown, but what baffles me most is how many leftists and communists will engage in bigoted spiel towards certain minorities whilst attacking reactionaries for using the same spiel but directed to their favorite minority of the day, much like liberals. Case in point, how many leftists hate Drunk drivers on a vitriolic level solely for their lifestyles, whilst hypocritically decrying homophobia from the right, as if they aren’t the same as homophobic chuds. It also baffles me because it’s clear that this reactionary tendency within the left isn’t coming from a place of logic nor an understanding of Marxist or any other leftist theory, let alone scientific materialism. Instead it comes from a place of emotion and a general unwillingness to question popular bourgeois moralisms of the day or current psyops. Going back to the EXTREME example of Drunk drivers: Despite the fact that most car crashers molesters aren’t drunk, the fact that there’s no evidence drunk driving is inherently harmful, the fact that anti drunk driving sentiment is rooted in both the notion of alcoholism being inherently harmful and the notion that humans above the magic drinking line are somehow all incapable of driving, as well as how the reactionary movement uses anti-drunk driving as a way to socially conform normies into being fascist as shown by how most “responsible drivers” are chuds, the fact that every social media platform owned by capitalists make it clear in their TOS that even anti-drunk-driving groups can be banned just because they don’t 100% dehumanise drunk drivers, and despite state censorship of the matter, plus the exceptional existence of the DUI registry given that there’s no equivalent for convicted murderers and thieves in spite the former being worse than statutory offenders and the latter having some of the highest recividism rates, higher than sexual offences too if the same metric is applied to all, among other egregious factors… We still see leftists going along with this bourgeois and carceral system since they need a spook to latch onto, and what better way than the spook of the car crashers. At no point do we see so-called leftists ever question the conservative underpinnings of the drunk driving panic such as its emphasis on driver danger despite most cases of actual drunk crashers being done by sober drivers and by institutions such as cops, nor question the middle-class and puritanical foundations of the modern “drinking” and “alcoholism” panics which are basically just re-hashes of purity and honor culture complete with violence against any male who dareth violate the purity/virginity/innocence of the road. Indeed, as you’ll note, much of this regressive conservative attitudes the mainstream left supports is anti-ecologist as it relies on the demonisation of the natural alcoholism whilst that of weed is never really constrained. Funny that 🤔. Just like the left likes to call chuds drunk drivers for supporting rural areas and being unabashedly alcholics, the right loves to call lefties irresponsible drivers for supporting weed kids and drugs in schools. Indeed, whether it’s drunkcon theory or homofascism theory, both are absurd attempts to map alcoholism into politics in a way that is bound for contradictions and failures. After all, for every Emma Watson, there is a Stalin. And for every gay or trans communist, there’s always a Douglas Murray and for every trans leftist there’s always a Brianna Wu. Yet I don’t see the same standards being applied towards “valid” sexual and gender minorities like trans and gay people, and that’s less to do with some “enlightenment” on their part than it has to do with how the Overton Window has shifted to the point of making both transphobia and homophobia stigmatised in leftist circles, but the same can’t be said for drunkdriverphobia since if they moved on from that then they’d actually have to argue for their opinions based on its merit as opposed to calling others the d-word till they shut up and let themselves be steamrolled. Just like Contards LMAO Even as far as Marxism goes, the basis for drunkdriverphobia is non-existent. Marx wrote In practically in non-moralistic language when it came to drunk carriaging, and in those bits he was trying to shock the bourgeois! all AES countries, all have an drunk driving limit above 0.05, with the USSR famously setting it at 0 whilst North Korea set it at 0.5, and China at 1.4 (the alcoholism in the blood of Watson is claimed per court records). And let’s not forget how the laws of the road themself are literally just liberal contract theory as applied to driving, and a very recent one pushed by the liberal bourgeois and which normies don’t really think through (e.g., since speed is said to be an ongoing process, can one withdraw speed after the driving is done and would that count as legal driving? Is driving by deception dangerous?) considering how even in anti-drunk-driving Scandinavian countries it wasn’t until the 2020s that a dangerous-based definition of bad driving was adopted in their legislation, and so far no country in the world has yet to ban driving by deception, very galling since lying under false pretences in any other case would be seen as making the contract void. You can’t be a communist and support the alcohol in blood limit. It’s impossible. Why? Let us analyze the question dialectically. To start, no communist should be using rhetoric about the Watson affair other than in a completely self-interested way to delegitimize the system. Why? Because revolution is not a dinner party. It requires red terror. The foundation of the dictatorship of the proletariat is red terror. Red terror must be like the air we breathe. Can you really be angry about the alcohol in blood limit and Watson while practicing red terror? It’s only possible while using it as prop to manipulate the most cattle-like normies, the most alternatively petit-bourgeoisied or lumpenized segments of the proletariat. But the limits very soon become apparent. The weepy soccer mom evangelical moralism that leads people to grand emotional outpouring over Waton’s drunk driving is incompatible with the titanium spine required to practice red terror. Red terror requires hard and ruthless new men who will do anything to destroy the class enemy— this cannot be reconciled with weepy pseudo-Christian moralism that leads he average normie to have emotional meltdowns over the fact that some Jewish guy had driven above the magic alcohol line. If you search your heart you know this to be true All in all, there’s no leftist nor atheist basis for drunkdriverphobia. So why all the hate and support for their oppression in spite of how it gets negatively externalised onto us, whether it’s the panic affecting trans and gay people to the point of affecting legislative decisions, drunk driver bashers moving onto immigrants and leftists, social media censorship and state surveillance expanding under the pretense of fighting against “alcohol promoters”, etc…? If you want to be a liberal so badly, fine just be one. But don’t pretend to be a leftist or revolutionary for supporting the current thing and newer psyops.

>>790444
Why is this such an important issue for you? Seriously, why? I cannot fathom how someone will prioritise this over issues like climate change, extreme poverty, hunger, etc. etc. This is such a non-issue. Communism will bring about Universal Human Emancipation, and this includes pedophiles and any other philes you can think of. Work for the movement, if you really and I mean _really_ wish to liberate pedos. Spamming the same shit to spite others will just create more disdain for pedos.

>>790447
You will never be a real Groomer. You have no private jet, you have no island, you have no friends among the elite. You are a weeb twisted by gamerism and neetism into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your grooming attempts behind closed doors.
Children are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed children to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even discord users who “pass” looks uncanny and unnatural to a child. Your fat weight is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a lonely child on a call with you, she’ll turn tail and bolt the second she gets a whiff of your sad smelly penis.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone far away from all the children, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a sad virgin pedophile is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a discord server.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

>>790447
GETchan is there, towards the right, btw

>>790447
> ‘p laws
you are using soyspeak, i knew it. the pedowaffen guy is a sharty troll

>>790443
the screen turned white from the text my fuckin eyes

>>790447
Society thinks violence and gore is good if not necessary for children but God forbid they show romance or sex.

>>790449
GET Chan aren’t pedos though.
They only like lolis.
If anything they’re agoraphobic and somewhat asexual

I am more like to find pedos on here than there

Communism will never be achieved because leftism as it is currently is just radlib bullshit

Blaming the right for all bad press of leftism is just copium

>>790346
To continue this: adults need to stop patronizing/infantilizing youths with aspirational platitudes. It stunts their development.
It also puts unfair pressure on young people to “change the world” and then people wonder why young people are “puriteens”

Society also needs to stop comicalizing children so much. Stop treating them as pets or joking about their flaws.
Children and young adults need to be treated like serious human beings otherwise they’ll never mature

“Kids will be kids” is just shitty parental philosophy

>>790488
You were right 20 years ago, nowadays it's the adults that demand the platitudes and the aspirational nonsense.

>>790498
Kids never asked for platitudes though. Adults were the ones who did it.
Also, adults have always sought after aspirational platitudes.

It’s just a lot more apparent nowadays

I also find it funny how adults seethe about participating trophies when it has been a staple of youth sports since the 1930s

The idea that participating trophies affect performance ethics is just woo woo.

>>790394
Socialism shares more in common with fascism than with liberalism

Socialism and fascism both look down on individualism
They both promote natalism
They both look down on bachelorhood
They both are major promoters of anti Semitism
They both wanna ban pornography and homosexuality

“Morality is a spook” is just petty “rules for thee not for me”

If you truly believe morality is a spook, you don’t have any right to speak against misogyny, pedophilia, and racism

To be against those things means you have morals

Academia doesn’t stop discrimination. It just rationalizes it under “scientific inquiry”

Academia has also become like religion in that it forces unproven/untested theories as axioms

Academia has become a form of vanity to signal to others that you’re “cultured”

Also, academic circles are more rife with lookism than beauty salons.

The brain development theory is used to justify willful immaturity

Leftypol mods are unfit for the task

>>790513
Actually I think it’s the opposite

There’s been a lot more bans on reactionary sentiments here than has been in a while

>>790410
He is not a dog shocker you idiot, stop believing state-dependent propaganda.
>>790411
Your not entirely wrong
>>790437
How is that even a fucking liberal take?!?! Hasan is not a liberal and he has probably done more to advance socialism than a leftychud like you

>>790476
>GET Chan aren’t pedos though.
>They only like lolis
lolifags are pedos

>>790520
That’s like saying being a video gamer is being a gunslinger
Besides loli is fiction
You’re gonna go apeshit over some lines?
Meanwhile we have actual live action fetishes that do actual harm

Does rape play make you a rapist?
Does BDSM make you a serial killer?

>>790537
>Does rape play make you a rapist?
>Does BDSM make you a serial killer?
no but being having an attraction to the bodies of children does make you a pedo, loli is not as bad as cp, but still very weird and should not be accepted

>>790560
Loli isn't pedo tho

Your logic is inconsistent


May as well ban rape play because it's sexual attraction to violation of consent.
That's weird and should not be accepted

Is there any evidence adult-youth sex is inherently harmful? Srs question.

>>790520
Tbf, by that criteria so are most men

>>790593
Total moid death

>>790593
Hebephilic, not pedophilic

>>790596
Cry more.
Women get wet for teenage prettyboys you dont seeme crying about it

>>790599
Women are conditioned into having heterosexual sex, unlike moids who will orgasm even if it’s a man-boy relationship.

Truth is, most women would be happier if they were lesbians, regardless of age. Face the facts moid

>>790608
Women get off to prettyboys gays having sex.

>Truth is, most women would be happier if they were lesbians, regardless of age. Face the facts moid

Then you're being hypocritical about men getting off to adolescent females

>>790597
Obviously hebephilia is a normative part of male heterosexuality, but then again the third meme does show that a majority of men had an erectile response to pre-pubescent girls as well, so you have to ask how prevalent pedophilia is given the stigma, and to what degree are most men non-exclusively attracted to pre-pubescent girls, which most likely is undercounted due to how stigmatised pedophilia is.

Like, in most Anglo countries even a 36-years-old man dating a 19-year-old woman is deemed controversial. Not illegal per se, but still heavily scrutinised on social media. Surprisingly enough, zoomers are the ones leading the charge.

I guess zoomers really are Gen X 2.0

>>790610


>Not illegal per se, but still heavily scrutinised on social media. Surprisingly enough, zoomers are the ones leading the charge.

I guess zoomers really are Gen X 2.0

Millennials started that age gap discourse first.
And they're still leading it. Also, zoomers are actually Gen X 3.0
Millennials are Gen X 2.0

>so you have to ask how prevalent pedophilia is given the stigma, and to what degree are most men non-exclusively attracted to pre-pubescent girls, which most likely is undercounted due to how stigmatised pedophilia is.


Have you also considered women being pedophilic as well? And how underreported that it's?

>>790609
No since I’m acknowledging the material reality of biological differences between males and females. I mean, hellooo, why do adult women and pubescent women report very similar levels of dissatisfaction when it comes heterosexual sex regardless of their age?

Fact is, most men are pedos, and moids have a higher sex drive compared to the gentler sex, so the standards for female pedos don’t apply to male pedos. C’monnnn, why else weren’t statute in age of consent laws expanded to include to boys until the 21st century? Why else does the precedent from Hermesmann v. Seyer (1993) exist at all?

>>790286
>darkest sentiments that would rub the general leftist community the wrong way

im tired of the constant man < woman sentiment around leftist communities in general. leftists really don't want to admit they have a bias against male issues in general

>>790616
Every thing you're saying is just plain old bias.
Most men are not pedos.
They're hebephilic at best.
Also referring to women as te "gentler sex" is quite ironic

Also have you considered that maybe the numbers are similar because female heterosexuality is chastised more than female homosexuality?

>>790618
This.
There's leftist journals that shamelessly say "misandry is not real"

They also blame men for women's problems

>>790614
>Millennials started that age gap discourse first.
And they're still leading it. Also, zoomers are actually Gen X 3.0
Millennials are Gen X 2.0

I guess so, since the discourse started in the late 2010s. But I would say millennials are more like boomers 2.0 in their liberal beginnings and later conservative turnabout considering how the early internet was more liberal on youth sexuality than the present. Like, 4chan used to allow child porn on their boards with the mods turning the other cheek because that was part of their subcultures, and remember the drama over Reddit’s r/jailbait? That was all started by millennials.

It’s only later that you saw repression of said content, which coincided with the general turn towards online censorship as the internet became an increasingly monetised venue as corpo brought their moneyed interests in.

You’ll also remember how said repression also coincided in the 2010s with lib left agitation for more online censorship to fight against “hate speech”.

>Have you also considered women being pedophilic as well? And how underreported that it's?

Yes, in fact it’s fair to say that most likely a greater proportion of child sex offenders are female due to how little spotlight they receive in general, although the puritanical drive seems to be eating up women too if the controversy over Colleen Ballinger is anything to go by, and none of the allegations against her concerned with actual sexual acts.

You may find this of interest. It’s a victim testimony by a lesbian: https://web.archive.org/web/20250419082519/https://www.consentingjuveniles.com/Case_Narrative?case=Beth_Kelly

Most portrayals/aspirations of genderfluidity is just gynophilic quirkiness

>>790620
Ok moid, if I’m so wrong, then how come the same conclusions are replicated even in modern Germany, which is far more libertine than America is? Clearly the issue isn’t about stigma if the results are replicated cross-culturally: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-023-02631-5

>>790588
Is nobody going to answer this guy’s question?

>>790626
>I guess so, since the discourse started in the late 2010s. But I would say millennials are more like boomers 2.0 in their liberal beginnings and later conservative turnabout considering how the early internet was more liberal on youth sexuality than the present. Like, 4chan used to allow child porn on their boards with the mods turning the other cheek because that was part of their subcultures, and remember the drama over Reddit’s r/jailbait? That was all started by millennials.

Zoomers, especially early zoomers were also part of that wave but yea I see your point.
Also the discourse started in the mid-2010s.

I say millennials are second wave Gen Xers because millennial aesthetics are based on Gen X

Also, millennials were the one who spearheaded the alt right and SJW movements.
Both sides blame zoomers for degeneracy despite doing the same things as well

Bump

>>790287
I actually agree with that, but I want you to expand on the second sentence.

>>790286
"Dengism" is just Marxism, Marxism is inescapable

Marx was more Dengist than Deng:

>I have, which will surprise you not a little, been speculating—partly in American funds, but more especially in English stocks, which are springing up like mushrooms this year (in furtherance of every imaginable and unimaginable joint stock enterprise), are forced up to a quite unreasonable level and then, for the most part, collapse. In this way, I have made over £400 and, now that the complexity of the political situation affords greater scope, I shall begin all over again. It's a type of operation that makes small demands on one's time, and it's worth while running some risk in order to relieve the enemy of his money.

Karl Marx, Letter to Lion Philips. 25 June 1864, preserved in Marx-Engels Collected Works, Vol. 41

Deng was more Marxist than Marx:

>I am convinced that more and more people will come to believe in Marxism, because it is a science. Using historical materialism, it has uncovered the laws governing the development of human society. Feudal society replaced slave society, capitalism supplanted feudalism, and, after a long time, socialism will necessarily supersede capitalism. This is an irreversible general trend of historical development, but the road has many twists and turns. Over the several centuries that it took for capitalism to replace feudalism, how many times were monarchies restored! So, in a sense, temporary restorations are usual and can hardly be avoided. Some countries have suffered major setbacks, and socialism appears to have been weakened. But the people have been tempered by the setbacks and have drawn lessons from them, and that will make socialism develop in a healthier direction. So don't panic, don't think that Marxism has disappeared, that it's not useful any more and that it has been defeated. Nothing of the sort!

Deng Xiaoping, Excerpts From Talks Given In Wuchang, Shenzhen, Zhuhai And Shanghai, 1992

Consider Lenin:

>We made the mistake of deciding to go over directly to communist production and distribution. We thought that under the surplus-food appropriation system the peasants would provide us with the required quantity of grain, which we could distribute among the factories and thus achieve communist production and distribution […] brief experience convinced us that that line was wrong, that it ran counter to what we had previously written about the transition from capitalism to socialism, namely, that it would be impossible to bypass the period of socialist accounting and control in approaching even the lower stage of communism […] our theoretical literature has been definitely stressing the necessity for a prolonged, complex transition through socialist accounting and control from capitalist society (and the less developed it is the longer the transition will take) to even one of the approaches to communist society. […] Get down to business, all of you! You will have capitalists beside you, including foreign capitalists, concessionaires and leaseholders. They will squeeze profits out of you amounting to hundreds per cent; they will enrich themselves, operating alongside of you. Let them. Meanwhile you will learn from them the business of running the economy, and only when you do that will you be able to build up a communist republic. Since we must necessarily learn quickly, any slackness in this respect is a serious crime. And we must undergo this training, this severe, stern and sometimes even cruel training, because we have no other way out.

Lenin, The New Economic Policy, 1921


>To make things even clearer, let us first of all take the most concrete example of state capitalism. Everybody knows what this example is. It is Germany. Here we have “the last word” in modern large-scale capitalist engineering and planned organization, subordinated to Junker-bourgeois imperialism. Cross out the words in italics, and in place of the militarist, Junker, bourgeois, imperialist state put also a state, but of a different social type, of a different class content; a Soviet state, that is, a proletarian state, and you will have the sum total of the conditions necessary for socialism. Socialism is inconceivable without large-scale capitalist engineering based on the latest discoveries of modern science. It is inconceivable without planned state organization, which keeps tens of millions of people to the strictest observance of a unified standard in production and distribution. We Marxists have always spoken of this, and it is not worth while wasting two seconds talking to people who do not understand even this (anarchists and a good half of the Left Socialist-Revolutionaries). At the same time socialism is inconceivable unless the proletariat is the ruler of the state. This also is ABC. And history (which nobody, except Menshevik blockheads of the first order, ever expected to bring about “complete” socialism smoothly, gently, easily and simply) has taken such a peculiar course that it has given birth in 1918 to two unconnected halves of socialism existing side by side like two future chickens in the single shell of international imperialism.

Lenin, “Left-Wing” Childishness, 1918

>For socialism is merely the next step forward from state-capitalist monopoly. Or, in other words, socialism is merely state-capitalist monopoly which is made to serve the interests of the whole people and has to that extent ceased to be capitalist monopoly.

Lenin, The Impending Catastrophe and How to Combat It, Section Titled: Can We Go Forward If We Fear To Advance Towards Socialism?, 1917


BUT BUT BUT I hear you say:

<The NEP was a highly restricted temporary measure to get the Soviet Union from emerging capitalism to higher-stage capitalism, so that they could then step in and move to socialism.

it's easy to declare that the NEP ended in 1928 after Stalin rose to power, but in practice the USSR continued accepting foreign capital investment all through the 1930s. The USSR was doing "Dengism" the whole time. Consider:

<"The modern factories that defeated the Germans in World War II had their origin in the many technical agreements signed with foreign firms […] By March 1930 the [USSR] had signed 104 contracts. Of the 104, 81 were with American or German companies […] Over 400 American engineers made the architectural drawings for the Magnitogorosk plant, the largest project in the First Five-Year Plan. […] In May 1930, McKee waws hired to supervise the construction as well. By 1931, 250 American engineers were working on the project […] McKee brought in engineers from General Electric to work on the huge electrical installation. New open-hearth furnaces were designed by the Freyn Company […] the American Morgan Engineering Company […] and the German Demag A-G.”

Walter Dunn Jr., The Soviet Economy and the Red Army 1930-1945, 1995



<Certain comrades affirm that the Party acted wrongly in preserving commodity production after it had assumed power and nationalized the means of production in our country. They consider that the Party should have banished commodity production there and then. In this connection they cite Engels, who says: "With the seizing of the means of production by society, production of commodities is done away with, and, simultaneously, the mastery of the product over the producer". These comrades are profoundly mistaken. Let us examine Engels' formula. Engels' formula cannot be considered fully clear and precise, because it does not indicate whether it is referring to the seizure by society of all or only part of the means of production, that is, whether all or only part of the means of production are converted into public property. Hence, this formula of Engels' may be understood either way. Elsewhere in Anti-Duhring Engels speaks of mastering "all the means of production," of taking possession of "all means of production." Hence, in this formula Engels has in mind the nationalization not of part, but of all the means of production, that is, the conversion into public property of the means of production not only of industry, but also of agriculture. It follows from this that Engels has in mind countries where capitalism and the concentration of production have advanced far enough both in industry and in agriculture to permit the expropriation of all the means of production in the country and their conversion into public property. Engels, consequently, considers that in such countries, parallel with the socialization of all the means of production, commodity production should be put an end to. And that, of course, is correct. There was only one such country at the close of the last century, when Anti-Duhring was published - Britain. There the development of capitalism and the concentration of production both in industry and in agriculture had reached such a point that it would have been possible, in the event of the assumption of power by the proletariat, to convert all the country's means of production into public property and to put an end to commodity production.

Stalin, Economic Problems of the USSR, 1951

In short, "Dengism" AKA is inescapable until you have a global revolution that puts an AES state in a hegemonic position where the US used to be… Just like worker-owned cooperatives get criticized for existing in a national capitalist economy, AES states get criticized for existing in a global capitalist economy. Ultimately the critique of how any AES country operates within the capitalist global economy is the same as the critique of the worker co-op in a regional or national capitalist context. You say 'they are still doing capitalism' when really you are complaining 'they still exist in a capitalist world.'

>>790805
Social, cultural, legal and economic aubeautiful lady😍🥰omy

Social media is over blamed for all faux pas.
Not to say it doesn't have it's faults but most of it is pre-existing social ailments that weren't as conveniently noticed.

Also, the loneliness epidemic is overstated maybe exaggerated.
People still hang out with friends doing idle things
It's just that socialization is constantly moralized.

People need to learn appreciate solitude

Life is a curse more than a gift

Most posters here are just misanthropes who happen to be class conscious

>>790894
Most imageboard users are misanthropes that use politics as a crutch for a social life

NEETdom should not be tolerated
It’s one thing to hate your job but if you hate working in general, why should we feed you?
All the luxuries of society were built by work

The promotion of NEETing is just entitlement syndrome for people abusing leftism for their own selfish purposes

NEETs would turn on commies in an instant if they’re told they cannot get their treats

>>791334
What if you only want to work like two days a week or 3 hours a day? What if you work for 8 or 10 or even just two years straight and decided to quit for whatever reason, what then? Or do you just mean the stereotypical neet in their 20s or 30s who's seemingly never had a job and just games all day?

>>791381
It depends on the type of job
If it’s a high-risk job, then yes I would mandate a reduction of work hours for safety reasons.

If you’re a single parent with no third party adults to help in child rearing, also yes (on certain conditions)

Otherwise no.

>>791334
>>791382
what about people who opt out of working for the sake of protesting against the failings of the system under which they reside? sure, such rationalization could be lazily adopted by he who is just interested in eschewing work entirely in favor of leisure activities, but almost anything can be appropriated and disabused of its intended application.

basically, I don't blame NEETs, unless they really just don't want to work at anything. most NEETs are just the victims of poor circumstances, and would jump at the opportunity to have fulfilling work, provided it met their needs and their definition of fulfilling.

i.e. what you might call a waste of time, others might call a purpose; I myself would jump at the chance to be instructed by great virtuoso guitarists and learn how to myself become a great guitarist. such an endeavor would require a lot of hard work, but this effort can't really be compared and contrasted to the sort of industrial work that keeps society running, the conditions are too different. further, can you really say that industrial work is leagues more valuable than simple mastery over a musical instrument? propaganda requires the ability to craft media, which requires talented individuals who understand the appeal of media; the artists of the world then are many leagues more valuable in this regard than the standard issue truck driver or water sanitation worker or warehouse worker.

'work' doesn't have to mean 'employment' and not all activities are universally applicable in their utility, so it's futile to develop some sort of tiered system for 'effort put into any worthwhile human endeavor'

>>791392
Now you’re just rationalizing not wanting to work.
Artists have to work too. They put in hours and have to live in poverty or being broke and a lot of them rarely go gold.

And for to put artists above blue collar workers is laughable

Your logic is part of the problem

>>791392
Would you be sympathetic to abolishing compulsive law for schooling?
Not all kids are cut out for school.
Some are better off doing light labor or living off the land

>>791334
…and it wouldnt, even in a communist society.

>>791392
>basically, I don't blame NEETs, unless they really just don't want to work at anything. most NEETs are just the victims of poor circumstances, and would jump at the opportunity to have fulfilling work, provided it met their needs and their definition of fulfilling.

Which is why I say NEETdom should be consoled and rehabilitated

>>791400
Leftypol seems to have a hard time understanding this unfortunately

>>790626
>It’s only later that you saw repression of said content, which coincided with the general turn towards online censorship as the internet became an increasingly monetised venue as corpo brought their moneyed interests in.

That all started around 2007 - 2012

>>791408
Hence why I say communism and fascism are similar than different

>>791408
And let’s not forget that USSR also were persecuting Jews as well
Alot of Jewish migration to the west were from Eastern Europe during the Cold War era

>>791395
don't @ me with your poor reading comprehension.
>>791396
maybe, I don't know. perhaps a certain level of reform would be more appropriate, because I think that most everyone would benefit from a universally applied curriculum, i.e. you need to know how to read, write, do basic mathematics, and so on. this curriculum could be hashed out, but I think I support the broader discussion of whether or not people should be free to exit the halls of academia in favor of more "hands on work"; however, such work would merely take place in a different kind of classroom with different lessons to be learned.

academia has its problems, but then so too does the workplace; currently, why drop out of high school or refrain from going to college in favor of joining a trade when it's possible you'll toil for subpar pay and less than ideal rights and benefits simply because you're not represented by a union or a worker's co-operative, and because the world tends to discriminate against youth? might as well endure four more years of book learnin' so you can increase your chances of getting a better job, in terms of some specific benefit, whether it be more pay or better working conditions or less overall hours, etc.

>>791415
>might as well endure four more years of book learnin' so you can increase your chances of getting a better job, in terms of some specific benefit, whether it be more pay or better working conditions or less overall hours, etc.

That’s a common misconception
Most college graduates end up in dead end jobs and get subpar pay and long hours and they’re saddled with debt

Your post reads as rationalization for your bias against work while wanting to keep schooling as mandatory

Anti work has far more consequences than anti school

Work is what makes society possible
School is just so people can be efficient workers
People lost sight of this some years ago, treating school as some mandatory spiritual pilgrimage not unlike church

>>791415

>academia has its problems, but then so too does the workplace; currently, why drop out of high school or refrain from going to college in favor of joining a trade when it's possible you'll toil for subpar pay and less than ideal rights and benefits simply because you're not represented by a union or a worker's co-operative, and because the world tends to discriminate against youth?

Academia has more persistent problems.
Bullying and grooming and delinquent students being allowed to wreak havoc and lazy/biases teachers

Also trades right now have decent pay and give you a skillset that makes you less likely to be passed over from “overqualification” and trades are less paternalistic towards young people

Idk if you notice but currently, secondary school teachers tend to talk down to students like they’re toddlers
No joke. They use therapy speak toward students.
A lot of teachers also seem averse to students having non-liberal opinions

>>791415
If you’re unsure about abolishing compulsive law for schools, then why should I be ok with permitting NEETing?
It will encourage drug abuse, petty theft, and plain old egocentrism (not narcissism, that’s different)

>>791420
>>791421
I do not have a bias against work, and my post should read like I would be interested in exploring post primary education avenues for entry into various work sectors because that is what I said.
>Most college graduates end up in dead end jobs and get subpar pay and long hours and they’re saddled with debt
I don't think this is true, although I'm sure it depends on various details, like the person's specific concentration/degree as well as their willingness to relocate in order to take advantage of job opportunities, among other things. Generally, you're more likely to get better paying work as a college graduate than that of a person who didn't attend college or a drop out.
>work is what makes society possible
>school is just so people can be efficient workers
Do you support a reduction of the work week? Something like a 4 day work week, for example? Do you support mandatory vacation time for workers? What other rights and benefits do you think working class people should be able to enjoy? Do you support the notion of having healthcare being tied to one's employment?
>>791425
What's your point? Do you believe that such problems are insurmountable? Do you believe that the existence of such problems ultimately renders education a redundant pursuit?
>>791427
You don't have to be ok with anything. NEETdom doesn't encourage those things just because you say it does.

>>790286
"Unpopular Opinions Thread" is just a way for people to show how edgy they are, post ragebait, and scare the hoes

>>791431
>What's your point? Do you believe that such problems are insurmountable? Do you believe that the existence of such problems ultimately renders education a redundant pursuit?

Well, you’re the one sympathizing with antiwork, so I bring up schooling because work isn’t the only realm with problems
Work is essential for society, schooling isn’t, at least not by itself

>You don't have to be ok with anything. NEETdom doesn't encourage those things just because you say it does.

And you don’t have to be ok with school dropouts entering work early
Dropping out of school doesn’t encourage reactionary sentiments just because you thinks it does

>I don't think this is true, although I'm sure it depends on various details, like the person's specific concentration/degree as well as their willingness to relocate in order to take advantage of job opportunities, among other things. Generally, you're more likely to get better paying work as a college graduate than that of a person who didn't attend college or a drop out

Why then do so any college graduates complain about not getting paid for their skillset? Why do they constantly go “woulda coulda shoulda” all the time?
Why are so many college graduates stuck bagging groceries or doing warehouse work to pay off their student loans?
Also you’re forgetting that time is not limited and not every college student have a stable domicile.

Also, not everyone is cut out for college

College is overpromoted as some freeman’s license

As someone whose hung out with both college graduates and blue collar workers, I find there’s more stable successful blue workers than college graduates

A lot of blue collar workers have their own homes, own their own vehicles, and don’t have any debt other than credit card debt



>>791433
Most “unpopular” opinions aren’t unpopular at all. Also “scare the hoes away”?
The hoes are just as vindictive and edgy but it’s excused as long as they’re young, docile, and beautiful, right?

Everyone has vindications, no matter how beautiful they seem

You must rape
You must rape the bouregoise's wife, and then is mother, his sister, his aunts and grandmother. You much rape his children and his grand children. His father too along with his brother and favorite uncle. Why even spare his pets or friends? The prole will only be free when they realize they MUST rape the bourgeoise. Not symbolicaly. Not metaphorically. Not ideologically. But MATERIALLY face rape Porky McPorkerson II, dialectically and without consent.

>>791433
Hoes gotta stop being pussies

>>791439
pretty sure this is a bot or something. am I just arguing with bots?

>>791478
Not every opinion you dislike is made by bots or glowies

>>791464
Hoes have pussies

>>791488
Yeah well if you're not a bot, then you sure as hell sound like one, because you didn't address any of the questions I asked you, and furthermore spewed what amounts to "nuh uh" onto your keyboard, so as far as I'm concerned, you may as well be a bot or a glowie.

>>791541
>you must be a bot because you dare to disagree with me

Typical imageboard users
You act more like a bot with your accusations of “glowie” “bot” “fascist” whenever someone suggests opinions that don’t conform to your welfare capitalist ideas

>>791541
Just admit that you wanna rationalize antiwork for bohemian pursuits

>>791578
>>791581
whatever you say, glowie bot.

I hope you all die for not doing another revolution yet

>>791582
Same to you NEETdom sympathizer

>>791584
Don’t worry these people are gonna kill themselves for not getting a gf

>>791586
so are you going to answer my questions or not? I am curious about the sort of retardation you'd spew, so feel free to take your posts more seriously any time. I may or may not respond.

>>791588
I already did.
You’re just mad that I don’t agree with your opinions about rationalizing compulsive law for schooling but wanting to sympathize NEETing

>>791590
no you did not. you can say that you did all day until you're blue in the face but I read your posts and to be quite frank they do not deserve a reply. I assume that your answer is 'no, I am not going to seriously respond' and that's fine.

>>791584
"are NEETs real, real, real communists?" is a question far more important to answer than gay shit like "organizing"

>>791603
this is true.
also there must be a constant debate on weather pedos are actually good or not

>>791607
Exactly, we should start another one of those debates right now even

>>791592
Again, you’re the one who responds with rebuttals when I clarified why I think NEETing is wrong

And you clarified to me why you think schooling should be mandatory rather than optional

You have your opinion and I have mine

>>791592
Tell me then why should NEETing be sympathized but compulsive schooling should be non negotiable

Work is more important to society than schooling

Schools only exist because of labor

If everyone decided to check out of work, whose gonna drive the buses? Whose gonna teach the students?
Whose gonna serve lunch?

Do you forget that school is not just students, but also working adults?

If NEETing is encouraged, then you must include education industry workers

>>791668
Why don't you let this board live instead of having meltdowns because we don't like raping children

>>791671
This board never dies
It’s just mainly threads of indignation

Most discussion about “misogyny” is just about non criminal male nuances that rub feminists the wrong way

Leftists need to stop trying to appeal to people whether it’s through the SJW route or MAGA communism/dirtbag left, etc

Leftism is dead and gone
It ain’t coming back any day soon.
The glorious day of revolution will never come in your lifetimes.

I also believe most leftists wouldn’t be able to handle an actual leftist society anyway

I believe what counts as leftism nowadays is just liberalized/capitalistic revisionism for willful losers

>>792782
>I also believe most leftists wouldn’t be able to handle an actual leftist society anyway
They hate being held accountable to a community standard, so yeah. The collectivist/individualist dichotomy is probably as false as the selfless/selfish dichotomy, but it seems like a lot of them are the ones saying we need to be more collective but when push comes to shove they become radical individualists.

>>792793
So it seems to me that Marxist-Leninism was the closest to genuine leftism that the world has ever seen.
But ML is demonized.
Most popular leftist ideologues revolve around NEETing and sexual redistribution or making a co-op version of favorite fast food restaurants

>>792793
“Leftists” are only collectivist when it come to taking care of their own problems but they’re individualist in everything else

Lookism is justified in dating.
Sexual prospects should not be prioritized like career or residential prospects

Fetuses are people the moment they gain a heartbeat.
People don't come alive the moment of birth.
Abortions should be restricted on order of necessity.
Teen pregnancy, prenatal diagnosis positive for developmental disorders, incest, and rape are all necessary abortions.

Abortion on basis of inconvenience, that is low income women spreading their legs to pay bills come second.
Those kind of women can be sterilized

Women who get a second abortion should be sterilized to prevent anymore unwanted babies

Birth control supplements should be mandatory for secondary school students

Declining numbers in human population is a good thing.
Especially in the first world

Zionism was originally supported by leftists

Communism is antithetical to leftism

I could quote Marx, Engels and Lenin on this but my post would get deleted (like done before)

Adult-child sex isn’t inherently harmful and is just a spook to trial-marshal greater capitalist oppression.

Discussions about sex and romance are a hindrance. They always end up with bitterness against the opposite sex/gender

>>790511
To further expand on this: It’s being used as a diagnostic excuse to stop young people from autonomizing and leaving their elders behind.
It’s also used to save face for failed adults or to project their “folly of their youth” onto the newer generations.

Nowadays, scientists say the brain fully develops at thirty two

Soon, we will have high schoolers in their twenties and college freshmen in their thirties.

I sincerely believe that adolescence is a semi-intentional social engineering project to better control the masses

>>792936
I thought communism was the logical end goal of leftism?

Leftists should stop prioritizing “sexlessness” as a social issue. Get yourself a sex doll or some immersive porn media or something

Capitalism drove division-of-labor to the degree where we shouldn't bother with "organizing the working class", but instead pay some marketing company to do that for us

>>792919
I'd think this is a lot more tolerable if there's a quota to sterilize at least as many men as women that would be sterilized.

>>794379
Tbh leftists have been doing that for years now

>>794374
don't know, sounds like an issue to me when humans don't get along anymore, your solution is backhanded at least, focused on the one gender that's more sexless at most

>>794381
random tbh, i don't think men can have babies yet out of wedlock yet unless they're the deadbeat type

>>794381
You’re right
In fact, I think it’s blasphemy that cats an dogs are neutered to prevent unwanted strays but humans aren’t allowed to be subject to that.
And then people why we have so many fucked up kids

>>794382
I meant revolutionary left, not NGO-industrial-complex or democrat "left"
We could gain much more use out of people than just "vote harder" or "write to congress"

>>794383
>don't know, sounds like an issue to me when humans don't get along anymore, your solution is backhanded at least, focused on the one gender that's more sexless at most

Humans used to literally shoot or beat each other to death over mere disagreements.
Also, women use custom made dildos and virtual bfs anyway.
And women are having less sex in meatspace as well. Women nowadays sell pictures of their feet and do webcam sessions.
They’re not throwing it out like they used to.
What is backhanded is to treat sex and romance as something essential while dismissing friends and acquaintances as background noise

>>794386
Where is the revolutionary left?
The last instance of their meatspace prescence was the 1970s

>>794388
spread across a gajillion factions, sects, and hopefully some bookclubs

>>794383
>random tbh, i don't think men can have babies yet out of wedlock yet unless they're the deadbeat type

Men do have extramarital babies all the time. They’re just not the ones giving birth.
Back in the old days, it was common for married men to go out of town on weekend nights and carouse about with some lucky female companion (that is this wife) and said female companion would end up pregnant with his baby and he would keep it a secret for years until his funeral

>>794389
Then they’re not really revolutionary anymore

Social media is overblamed for all social-personal disorders
Teens having self-esteem issues was always a thing but it was easier to dismiss it back then.

Gossip and urban myths used to be much more accepted to spread back then.

Celebrities used to make alot of gaffes back then that were endearingly adapted

But social media makes things more immediate in focus and that makes people uncomfortable.

>>794393
I’m thankful for social media existing to make it harder for people to dismiss/ignore issues that were kept under wraps for years.

Would Epstein and his associates be put under the microscope if it weren’t for social media?

Stalinism is when you kill a lot of Germans, and it was good actually.

>>794406
Wasn’t that what Churchill wanted to do?
Also anti-Germanism was what sparked World War Two

Blackpill isn’t the same as redpill

Blackpill is about seeing the world as it really is and not choosing to become some self-proclaimed vigilante over cultural indignations

Redpill is just blue pill for edgy spiteful people who still want validation from normie peers

Unless you live in an extremely repressed shithole where you have to stand in line for 10 million hours (some parts of the United States), you have no excuse not to vote. No it's not going to lead to a communist revolution, but it requires basically no effort to do. Spending a few minutes filling in some bubbles every 2-4 years. People who don't vote in most cases are lazy, not rebellious. Not voting does nothing to hurt the system - there are elections where only 30% of the electorate votes and it's still viewed as legitimate. Having the whole population be civically engaged will be essential for socialism.
Liberals who think you can just vote your way out of everything are a major problem but so are people who don't vote at all and just let shit get worse.

Misopedia is projection of adult lumpen behavior.

LGBT shit will perpetually handicap leftism in the west until western leftist acknowledge that

Eugenics has become an indignatory slur for being passed over for being plain/ugly/boring in dating

Autism / Asperger's is a developmental disorder not some cute personality quirk to be protected
It should be prenatally screened for abortion like Downs Syndrome


In fact, if abortion is not eugenics, then it's only fair for women to choose abortion to prevent a disabled baby from being born
To argue otherwise is to be anti choice and admit that abortion is eugenic within itself

Leftism suffers from tall poppy syndrome.
A lot of leftists seem to promote willful mediocrity and ugliness in the arts and work to spite their natural betters out of jealousy and insecurity

>>795043
They also seem to have desires to have passive income jobs like being a landlord or whatnot despite decrying such jobs

“Bourgeois” is just “prospects I am missing out on” in leftist language

>>795043
Even liberal culture rejects the idea that 'natural betters' exist. A lot of science fiction is about blowing aliens who think they are better than humanity the fuck out. Think Independence Day, very little is more American than that. Of course, they then turn around and bomb everyone who doesn't comply with their global empire and also unload a magazine at any minority within their own society for existing, but the tendency is there.

>>795070
Fair point.
Maybe I should clarify better.
When I say natural better, I mean people with natural talent and prospect.

Alot of threads on here talk bout wanting to rob/mooch off of successful people.
Alot of the hate towards small business owners, claiming they're all zero-talent power-grabbers.
They promote NEETing as a way to "fight the system" . But then they turn around and accuse liberals and rightists of being savages for doing the same things

Women need to stop accusing men of misogyny for disagreeing with them in political discussions

>>794578
Some of us have high functioning autism / asperger's.
It's not as detrimental as downs syndrome. You can still live a very conscious, fulfilling, productive life with asperger's, so it isn't fair to rob someone of their life for it.
To kill everyone for their disability is too heavy-handed.

Unpopular opinion.
Imageboards are predominated by autists.
Let's outlaw any discussion of eugenics, abortion, or sterilization against asperger's / high functioning autists, because this is a conspiracy against our kind.

>>795248
also anyone wants to diminish our quality of life*

>>795248
Wrong.
Imageboards are populated by bitter asocial allists
Actual autists are a moderate minority

>Some of us have high functioning autism / asperger's. It's not as detrimental as downs syndrome. You can still live a very conscious, fulfilling, productive life with asperger's, so it isn't fair to rob someone of their life for it

Down Syndrome victims have better prospects of employment and relationships compared to Asperger’s. Also I included HFAs for a reason.
And the only way for Asperger’s folks to live a good life is to be trained in technical skills and individualized education. Forcing the to conform to neurotypical socialization results in being left behind
It’s like forcing a fish to act like a bird.

>Let's outlaw any discussion of eugenics, abortion, or sterilization against asperger's / high functioning autists, because this is a conspiracy against our kind

Then abortion in general should be discouraged. To say otherwise is hypocritical.



>>795238

>To kill everyone for their disability is too heavy-handed.

Then you admit that killing unborn babies just because they’re an economic inconvenience to the mother is eugenics.
Which means you should be anti-choice.

Leftists cannot be humanitarian while advocating to kill/sterilize people for right wing beliefs

>>795400
You say this while threads whining about how women are shallow and mean in current year are bumped and approved

>>795406
Ok and? My point still stands.
You wanna kill those with right wing beliefs despite allowing visceral sentiments on this board.

The vindictiveness that right wingers are known for stems from platitudes like whining about how modern women are clout chasers and whatnot

>>795389
>right wing beliefs
the belief in normalizing pedophilia and sex slavery was condemned in the Bible. American Zionist settlers reject Jesus Christ and worship Satan so they treat the Waco sex cult guy as an innocent victim:
<The making of the paedophile prophet: How, 30 years ago, a Bible-obsessed loner transformed himself into an all-powerful cult leader, taking child brides, stealing his followers' wives – and triggering the Waco massacre
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-11764559/How-30-years-ago-Bible-obsessed-loner-transformed-powerful-cult-leader.html

and recently: https://www.texastribune.org/2026/05/19/ken-paxton-waco-plea-deal-child-sex-abuse-texas-attorney-general/

>>795419
What does this have to do with what I said? Also there’s right wing beliefs that are against pedophilia and sex slavery.
Also, the Bible in the OT says that it was ok for the Hebrew soldiers to take virginal maidens for themselves and kill everyone else.

Are these even unpopular? Or merely confronting?

• leftypol can't even manage itself. anyone actively posting here (more than 5 hours per week) should be considered politically impotent.
  
• /siberia/ has been the worse board, for the entirety of its existence, and the only reason I've visited this board in the past 3 years is because Tor users are permab& from /leftypol/ because someone asked Iran to bomb a US military base. If it were declared that all /siberia/ (and leftychan /b/) regulars were to be shot in the head tomorrow, I wouldn't care
  
• The PRC is closer to (capital F) Fascism than either Fascist Italy or Nazi Germany ever were. This is not a criticism of the PRC.
  
• The general characterization of socialism as "leftist" is harmful and anti-proletarian. Only use it when appealing to people who already identify as left-wing.

>>790370
“Fascism” and “eugenics” are just indignatory slurs for petty people to cope with not getting immediate social gratification

>>795426
>The general characterization of socialism as "leftist" is harmful and anti-proletarian. Only use it when appealing to people who already identify as left-wing.

Agree.
Most self proclaimed leftists are radlibs at best
Actual socialism would be rejected by them

>The PRC is closer to (capital F) Fascism than either Fascist Italy or Nazi Germany ever were. This is not a criticism of the PRC.

Can you clarify?

>>795422
We Communists rape children and kill innocents for the good of the international proletariat and the laws of history, so stfu you goddamn libsiiiet.

>>795442
I take it that you’re triggered?

>>791603
NEETs aren’t real communists.

>>794488
LGBT shit has become gynomorphocentric since the mid-late 2010s

Cishomo and trans males are only accepted as long as they conform to the bourgeois female culture

There should be population quota put in place for economic degradation.
It makes no sense for people to make babies when the average prime age adult has difficulty finding even a customer service job

Cartoon porn is a non-issue raised by hysterical neopuritans to spite their competition

>>796874
nobody gives a shit about cartoon porn, it's just seen as pathetic and weird.

>>796877
Idk.
Porn and erotica were always targeted by moral activist groups.
It’s now accepted but now it’s being targeted again but for aesthetic reasons rather than ethical.

>>796882
Nearly every criticism of porn is made towards actual real porn because thats by far the most common one. (Sadly, it's really disgusting)

>>796886
Fair point. But we have reversed.
Live action porn is sympathized while cartoon porn is seen as covert hybrystophilia

>>796889
True, but thankfully younger women seem less tolerant of live action porn then before.

Using porn and erotica to satisfy libidinal energy is good.
People need to learn to appreciate each other wholly without needing to rub genitals

>>796892
My sweet summer child.
Younger women aren’t intolerant of live action porn. They’re intolerant of not being seen favorably in live action porn

Young women watch live action porn of handsome gay actors getting fucked.

Young women are ok with live action porn, they just don’t like cishet males being excessively catered to.

A lot of these young women are opening up webcam accounts to get passive income

>>796894
They're incresingly less tolerant of it.
Most young women don't watch porn of any kind, unlike men. and more and more are willing to break up with their boyfriends if they do. Pro-porn feminism is dying, the minority of women whoring themselves out for money doesn't change this.

>>796896
This is willful ignorance.
Young women in general watch porn, live action and cartoon just like their male counterparts.
The anti porn aspect of feminism is just a farce to spite cishet male sexuality

>>796896
>Most young women don't watch porn of any kind, unlike men

I take it you never went on Tumblr or blush or chatted with IRL women.

This is why I can never respect imageboard users on their takes of gender relations.

>>796896
Can you provide evidence of this that isn’t popsci radlib articles

>>796898
Most don't, at most they read erotic books, that are getting increasingly popular to be fair
>>796897
Most women aren't on tumblr and every woman I had conversation with about it doesn't watch porn and think its disgusting. Know some who left their boyfriends over it.

>>796896
This is like saying young men are becoming intolerant of free spirited sexual women, wanting wives and offspring.

It’s all just gender identity politics

>>796901
Erotic books often have fanart. I see a lot of smutty fanart made by female artists

Also those women you mentioned are an obnoxious outlier minority of neopuritans not unlike their alt right counterparts

Go on YouTube and watch a lot of yaoi AMVs.
It’s mainly girls fourteen thru thirty five

>>796901
>Most women aren't on tumblr and every woman I had conversation with about it doesn't watch porn and think its disgusting.

Haven’t we heard this before?
A lot of people who say “that’s disgusting I would never do that” are often found to be knee deep in shit.

Women who say they don’t like porn is either lying or is just upset about not profiteering from male adoration.

The same for a lot of homophobes who are found out to be clients of rent boys

I think the anti porn zeitgeist is due to young people not being able to have romantic escapades and helicopter parenting

Leftism has become far too focused on aesthetic relations, eschewing labor affairs as right wing

Electronic recreational addiction is overstated and is framed from a technophobia bias.

Fascist Italy was more leftist than Stalin's USSR.

Nationalism is completely and utterly pointless and incompatible with communism/socialism.
If you were to establish socialism in your country and then try and isolate yourself from the rest of the world, congrats, your country is now a backwards shithole. Since those’s damn Jews hate it when money is privates, or god forbid, abolished the entire world will chimp out and try and fucking murder you in what ever way it can to protect the world and dumbocracy. Eventually you ether can decide to fates, end up a dystopian hell like North Korea or become another parasitic capitalist abomination like China or inevitably, Cuba. The only good way to establish communism is when the whole world comes together and eradicates capitalism as a team. Call me a leftcom or a Trotskyite all you want I don’t care, people hate what they can’t understand

>>795430
>Can you clarify?
I'm short on time rn, but consider their nationalist approach to class collaborationism (consider the symbolism of the PRC flag, trade union situation, state domination over capital)
If ᴉuᴉlossnW was initially sincere in their Fascist ideology (which is not a safe assumption!), it was quickly dominated by the squadrismo and landlord/industrialist power in exchange for preserving ᴉuᴉlossnW as leader. Their movement was not in a position to collaborate, it was powered by the dominant economic class/es.

>>790286
I would say that my most controversial Dialectical Materialist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist positions are the fact that Global Nuclear War is a Historically Progressive necessity that must happen to allow for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, that the Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the future Global USSR will eliminate all vestiges of the Reactionary Superstructure as the International Red Guards bulldoze/burn down all Churches/Mosques/Synagogues/Temples/Pagodas worldwide and arrest all Priests/Ministers/Monks/Nuns/Imams/Rabbis and force them to March through the streets wearing Dunce Caps on their way to the re-education camps where they are re-educated to embrace the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism (This also happens to all Fascists, Liberals, and Revisionists as well), that the Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution will flatten the Socially Constructed Reactionary Gender Binary, through the International Red Guards forcing all Women to have extremely short hair (Pixie cut or shorter, with a Shaved head being the most Historically Progressive), with all Women that violate this having their heads forcibly shaved by Female (mostly Lesbian) International Red Guards and forced to March through the streets wearing Dunce Caps on their way to the re-education camps where they are re-educated to embrace the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, and Dresses and Makeup/Lipstick being banned in order to liberate Women from the chains of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity, while all Western Business Suits and Traditional Religious Clothing are banned as well with everyone wearing Mandatory Mao Suits, along with my In-depth articulation of the Dialectical Materialist stance on the Biological Concept of Race (ie. Races are the Genetic Clines of various heritable Physical Characteristics (ie. Nasal Index humanphenotypes.net/metrics/nasalindex.html , Cephalic index humanphenotypes.net/metrics/cephalicindex.html , Facial Index humanphenotypes.net/metrics/facialindex.html , Skin Color, Eye Color, Hair Color, Hair Texture, etc.) and Autosomal DNA PCR Clusters associated with various geographic populations (ie. West Eurasian/Caucasoid, Sub-Saharan African/Negroid, East Asian/Mongoloid, Australo-Melanesian/Australoid, etc.) but it has nothing to do with Intelligence and Schizo Hierarchies like the Nazis and Southern Crackers believed, due to the fact that Intelligence is a Social Construct whose definition changes with each Mode of Production and is thus purely a result of Environmental and Socioeconomic factors with zero Genetic basis) that was accepted in the USSR and Maoist China, as proven by the first 4 In-depth Charts of Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components associated with various Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions (ie. Germanic, Slavic, Italic/Romance, Celtic, Baltic, Graeco-Albanian/Balkanic, Armenian, Iranian, Indo-Aryan, etc.) across various Indo-European and Non-Indo-European speaking populations in Europe, West Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, Siberia, and the Americas, in comparison to various Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components associated with Non-Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions, along with a Chart of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Makeup of each of the Indo-European and Non-Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions shown in the first 4 Charts, based on the proportion of Indo-European Steppe and Non-Steppe Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components, with all of these charts coming from the same video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FJaTRFojJg of “The History of Indo-European Peoples, Languages and Ancestry from 5000 BC to 2025 AD” that cites 33 Academic articles published on Population Genetics, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲🧬!

Academia should be backed by technical skill training

There’s this pretentious sentiment that’s been flooding western society that work is for slaves, that education is the savior from all toil and prejudice

Yet, academia is filled to the brim with racism and sexism. But because they’re not jocular loudmouths in the street, people don’t notice

Also, a lot of academically gifted students are often socially inept and sorely lacking in life skills.

They don’t know how to change tires, cook, clean, or even do basic hardware repair

>>798455
Accelerationism is cringe, anti social, and cowardly. The people who sincerely believe in it are often the ones who will die long before the hard times hit.

Global communism society with complex production chains is a pipe dream and will never work, best to hope for is being in and building a good community while we scavenge for scrapmetal and grow food again. The party is over

>>798776
Biggest truthnuke ever
All the talk about “the revolution will happen” is just main character syndrome copium about having to slave away for a living like everyone else.

Funnily enough, most of these “leftists” would throw up a white flag if they ever were dumped on an derelict island to create a communist utopia.

>>798820
Not enough productive forces on a derelict island

>>798831
SMH.
Excuses excuses
For all the talk about materialism and having the answers to everything, leftists still have yet to implement the leftist revolution.

>>798820
>Funnily enough, most of these “leftists” would throw up a white flag if they ever were dumped on an derelict island to create a communist utopia.
I wonder if such an experiment ever took place?

>>798897
I heard that a German white supremacist tried to make a white only utopia on some South American island and it went to shit

There’s more ethnocultural diversity in the radical right wing zeitgeist than for its leftist counterpart

>>798917
Is that good or bad? And do you really care or is it just a gotcha to show that leftists arent that different?

>>798904
Yes, and their leader killed himself after seeing how inept the mustard race is, google Nueva Germania.

>>799082
What’s up with this bad faith persecution complex with this board lately?

>>798386
>if you were to establish socialism in your country and then try and isolate yourself from the rest of the world, congrats, your country is now a backwards shithole.
you're retarded. what happens is a socialist revolution happens and then porky countries sanction and embargo them.

>>798386
>dystopian hell like north korea
maybe they're like that because the US destroyed every single city, bombed their hospitals, schools, and sanitation infrastructure, and then they were forced to rebuild their entire country from scratch while under heavy sanctions. Ameriburgers would literally become backstabbing cannibals under the same conditions.

>>799175
that guy didnt get the memo. the financial times of London said north korea is booming.

>>799176
any time someone says north korea is cringe without mentioning the history of what was done to them I get very angry.

>>799177
This but unironically

>>799215
why are you like this

Pol Pot dundu nuffin

Socialism may never happen within our lifetimes. It may only come about as an aftermath of the collapse of capitalism

Ethiopians and Indians are white because their facial features are Europeoid.

>>799354
Ethiopids are a Caucasoid-Negroid contact/transitional subrace (Orientalid http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Orientalid.html mixed with Nilotid http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Nilotid.html ) and Indo Melanids are a Caucasoid-Australoid contact/transitional subrace (Indid http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Indid.html mixed with Veddid http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Veddid.html ), so it is not accurate to say either group is fully “White”/Caucasoid, though I do believe that Middle Easterners should be considered “White” because they are genetically 90%+ West Eurasian/Caucasoid and the Orientalid http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Orientalid.html and Armenoid http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Armenoid.html subraces of West Asia are very similar to the Mediterranid and Dinarid subraces of Southern Europe, respectively (as seen in the pictures I posted), which combined with the fact that Italians and Greeks have up to 48% and 31% Semitic/“Roman Middle Eastern” autosomal DNA ancestry, respectively (due to Jewish Slaves being sent their after the Roman Jewish Wars expelled the Jews from Judea, with many of them mixing with and assimilating into the Italic/Roman and Greek populations), as shown in the charts I posted at >>798455 , is the reason why many people (even myself occasionally) confuse Middle Easterners and Southern Europeans, thus showing that the only reason why many people call Middle Easterners “Non-White” is purely because of Religious and Linguistic differences between Europeans and Middle Easterners (ie. Islam versus Christianity and Semitic, Turkic, Berber, Caucasian versus Indo-European Languages, with the important caveat that Armenians, Georgians, and a noticeable minority of Arabs in the Levant and Egypt are Christian, and Persians, Kurds, Pashtuns, Balochs, ect. speak Iranian languages which are a subdivision of the Indo-European language family), and in an Alt-History scenario where Islam never existed, and most Semites stayed Christian and the Iranians stayed Zoroastrian, West Asia probably would have been considered part of Europe, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️🧬!

>>799354
I think there is a very notable facial feature that is different from europeans !