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>>794927>>808014>Your way of disproving this is wrong anyway. You would have to look into if broke, confident men with high social intelligence get a lot of pussy and if wealthy, unconfident, socially unintelligent men get few to none. That would prove that socioeconomics is negligible factor.Socioeconomics is not a negligible factor though. And I did suggest that the broke man in question probably had a lot of fizz.
>I’m not arguing it isn’t the exception. It still proved that socioeconomic success is not needed and can be eclipsed by the factors I mentioned, because it’s all the dude got going for him. The outlier argument only makes sense if I claimed he was the standard or if his results could not be replicated.You saying that being financially loaded is negligible to dating success makes it seem like you’re trying to prove the exception as the rule.
I’m well aware that men like Charles Manson was a brokie who managed amass a following due to his social intelligence and relative good looks but even with all that wit, he’s still a lucky minority.
>The guy obsessed with the theater girl will likely still suck ass with women after he moves out and teaches history. That’s because he’s entirely neglecting the domain of approaching women, developing his social skills and good mental gameNobody is saying that this particular anon is ever gonna be lucky. He even admits it himself.
But you understand that charming witty bums aren’t all that successful with women as much as you’d like to think.
They’re the opposite end of the bell curve from autistic men with decent careers.
Charming witty men with careers still get the bulk of pussy
People like Marxist-turned-demsoc anon are the “bucking betas”. (If you know you know)
>>808014>Your way of disproving this is wrong anyway. It’s always amusing that people always wanna get snippy like this when I question their platitudes. It’s as if though you’re clinging on to it as some desperate hope.
>>808014>You would have to look into if broke, confident men with high social intelligence get a lot of pussy and if wealthy, unconfident, socially unintelligent men get few to none. That would prove that socioeconomics is negligible factor.But those are not unrelated. Poverty is actually a very good predictor of adult virginity. Yes, hot charismatic poor men do get laid, but poverty is a barrier to developing hotness and charisma.
>>808059It depends. In the US, particularly in the suburbs, it can be.
But if you live in ethnic countries, where people are more socialable (like the Caribbean and Latin America), it’s not as bad an issue.
>>808063Poor people dont live in suburbs.
>>808064I meant to say suburban towns
Also, not all suburbs are big money
There’s a lot of ghettos in the South and west coast that are suburbs
The stats on my wife's new Bull are insane
>>808014I think that getting independent from my parents and teaching history at a community college will force me to have better social skills that will improve my odds of getting a girlfriend. This is because I feel that the combination of my mild autism and my parents sheltering me to the point that my college experience feels more like high school, is both keeping me depressed and preventing me from developing better social skills. The way I could try to improve my social skills before I get independent would be to join clubs (probably history and politics, because that is all I know about) at the university and try to talk to more people (mostly girls obviously) then just waiting to run into the cute girl from the theatre class. But in the long term I really feel that getting away from the comfortable bubble I live in with my parents and being forced to have more responsibilities and more social interactions will naturally improve my social skills and make getting a girlfriend much more realistic then it is right now.
>>807907We just have to agree to disagree on this. As I have said countless times here, I genuinely believe she is the cutest girl I have ever seen and that her personality is more charming than any other girl I have ever run into. I spent enough time around her in the theatre class, had enough interactions with her there, and have checked out her public social media account enough to have a pretty decent gauge on her personality. Whatever small personality flaws that she may or may not have that I would find out about if I actually got to have a serious friendship with her that could evolve into a relationship, would not be enough to change my opinion about her, because I love her so much that I would be willing to accept anything I found out about her. I also know from my interactions with her that she is intelligent and gets really high grades, and I can guarantee that she dose not come from a dysfunctional family. I am very serious when I say that she is probably the best girl I could ever have a relationship with and I would be so thankful in the miracle scenario that it actually worked out with her, and I would happily spend the rest of my life with her. But I am smart enough to know that miracles only happen in hollywood movies and in the real world I am probably going to have to face the sad reality that it won’t work with her, and I will have to settle for somebody else. Even though part of me will always want the cute girl from the theatre class, and she will always have a special place in my heart, I will still truly love and appreciate any future girlfriend I can actually have a relationship with in real life.
>>808085>This is because I feel that the combination of my mild autism and my parents sheltering me to the point that my college experience feels more like high school,College IS like high school.
It’s just that you have more sociolegal power. But nowadays, college is more like highschool in that no sex or drugs is allowed as much anymore and parental interference.
>I think that getting independent from my parents and teaching history at a community college will force me to have better social skills that will improve my odds of getting a girlfriend. This is because I feel that the combination of my mild autism and my parents sheltering me to the point that my college experience feels more like high school, is both keeping me depressed and preventing me from developing better social skills. The way I could try to improve my social skills before I get independent would be to join clubs (probably history and politics, because that is all I know about)Are you wanting to improve social skills only for the sake of getting a girlfriend?
Also, why waste your time on socializing alone? Why not get some hobbies as well?
> at the university and try to talk to more people (mostly girls obviously) then just waiting to run into the cute girl from the theatre classWhy only girls? Why not socialize with boys too? Men who lack fellow male friends especially with your predicament are less likely to get laid.
>>808085No offense but I think your motive to socialize and autonomize just for the sake of getting a girlfriend is kinda sad.
If I was your age again, I would join clubs that would teach me cool stuff like building and repairing computers or culinary arts or something.
I wouldn’t waste time with finding a girlfriend.
In fact I think girl-hunting in general should be the last thing for college boys nowadays with all this moral hysteria about grooming
If you’re looking to get laid, get a hooker
>reading about a tweaker with multiple murder charges who managed to get and keep a gf through it all
According to the blue pill theory of how attraction works this guy obviously must have been showering every day, maybe even twice on days he was doing murders. Also it must have taken years of meditating and therapy and self-improooving for him to find such killer hobbies.
>>808091Have you consider that maybe his gf is touched in the head?
Women aren’t all the same in mentality
>>808092jarvis, tell this man about jeffrey dahmer, bundy, meeks, and many more and how did some women react just to them being attractive
>>808093Ted Bundy was a charmer. As was Charles Manson.
Now Dahmer, I didn’t know that he was getting female adoration.
Regardless, the people that glamorize those degenerates are touched in the head
I think then females admirers are only attracted to their looks and newfound fame rather than the murders themselves .
If they were to be caught on camera doing those murders that they did, their fan base would be smaller, comprised mainly of actual snuff film enthusiasts
>>808089I have interacted with male students in some past classes, and I have gotten along really well with both male and female professors. I have probably gotten along better with the professors then the students because I am such an autistic history nerd, and my parents kept me de facto isolated from kids my age when I was in high school (they made me scared of too much interaction with my peers for fear they would figure out I was mildly autistic and make fun of me and get me officially labeled/diagnosed). But as other anons have mentioned in this thread, I fear that friendships between two men usually become an extremely superficial contest of two guys trying to prove to the other one who is the biggest “macho man” with near constant ridicule of each other that would just make me even more insecure, give me worse social skills (fear of constantly being made fun off by male “friends” would make me have even less confidence when talking to both men and women), and make me want to just hide with my parents forever. I also fear that spending too much time just around your own sex/gender can create another case of stunted development/perpetual childhood style juvenile friendships that become more inappropriate the older you get or potentially could be a gateway to homosexuality (I don’t mean this to be offensive to LGBT people, I am extremely pro-LGBT rights, but I am completely straight/heterosexual and have zero homosexual tendencies). This dose not mean that I would never interact with men and that I would not be open to having male friends (as I said their are multiple male professors that I have essentially befriended and had very productive intellectual discussions with, and their have been some male students I have done projects with and gotten along with well in class) if I thought they would not fall into one of these concerning situations I mentioned. I just subconsciously prioritize making small talk and improving social skills with women, because my long term goal is to get a girlfriend, not hanging around with a bunch of dudes forever.
>>808100I knew it. You’re one of those guys who looks down on other men as fellow friends. Just so you know, your depiction of male friendships is mainly a thing in movies
Yes, men do like to joke around and be competitive from time to time but they are capable of bonding
Don’t listen to other anons on here
They glaze women far too much
Female friendships aren’t as different from male friendships as you think either
Also, hanging out with your own gender doesn’t stunt you
And if anything, you need more bonding with other men.
Also, for you to assume that deep social bonds with a friend of the same sex leads to homosexuality is also very shallow and disrespectful.
In non Anglo countries, men have life long friendships with other men without any homosexual affectation
Not that you would care.
You’re just a shallow autistic simp who is too distracted by women.
>>808100Also forgot to mention: women love to banter to mock their friends as well, both male and female.
Women can be very henpecky as well
Have you ever hung out in female majority groups?
I have
This image of women as being these mutual empaths that only speak compliments and never judge others is wrong
It’s no different from the male counterpart.
But like I said, you wouldn’t know nor care about that.
>>808100I have a question to ask you:
What if a girl shows interest in you but she’s not pretty?
Suppose she’s has the any of the follwing attributes:
>zits/freckles>husky/chubby>masculine fashion>boisterous>snarky/bantering >over thirty-fiveBut she genuinely likes you for you.
Would you accept?
>>808117The zits/freckles, chubby/husky, and over 35 are the only ones on that list that really bother me And as long as the zits/freckles were kept under control and she was only slightly chubby, I could probably accept that. The only one that really would be a deal breaker is if she was 35+, lol.
>>808120So you’re just like everyone else
You only acknowledge existence of young adult females. And even amongst them, you only care about them if they are slim and blemish-free.
What if the woman that’s over thirty five has youthful looks still?
Like Lady Tsunade form Naruto?
I bet you wouldn’t turn her down.
And I bet you think women look butt ugly by thirty five, being a white boy whose only familiar with white people as physiognomic reference model.
You cry about not having a gf due to your autism. But you’re hesitant to accept the love of a woman just because she’s got blemishes, pudge and is in the second half of her prime?
You deserve to be lonely
Most men are more adaptive to aesthetic flaws of women when it comes to romance
(Women unfortunately are less reciprocative of this)
If it were sexual preferences that’s one thing. But this is romance. Romance isn’t just about what’s easy on the eyes and ears. It’s also about what eases your heart
>>808127I didn’t want to look super desperate, but if I am being completely honest, by the time I am independent in 3-4 years and I am searching for a girlfriend on dating sites (assuming that it flops with the cute girl from the theatre class, and that I can’t have a relationship with a young female instructor at the community college I am teaching at), I will probably be willing to accept any girl that shows interest in me, lol. My only bare minimum stipulation is that she is under 40 and not morbidly obese, lol.
>>808128What if the only woman who shows you love is over forty but in good shape?
Or if she’s under forty but not in good shape?
>>808134As I said, eventually I will probably have to accept any girl that is willing to be with me to avoid being lonely forever. But that dose not mean that I do not have some standards that I will attempt to hold on to until I realize I have no choice but to drop them because beggars can’t be choosers, lol. And to answer your questions specifically, if the 40+ year old looked like she was under 40, and if the young chubby women had a really nice personality and wasn’t morbidly obese, I would definitely say yes to both of them, lmao.
>>808117>What if a girl shows interest in you but she’s not pretty?<frecklesI kindly ask you to kill yourself right now.
>>808175Gonna have to harg agree on that one
>>808175>>808177Are you both on the rag?
Some people don’t like freckles just like some people don’t like pudge
>>808117most of these are pros
>>808204>Some people don’t like frecklesthey should kill themselves
>>808208What about people who dislike pudge, post-youth, or boisterousness?
>>808231i find myself able to tolerate their continued existence
>>808306I kindly ask you to self-delete
>>808286Crippled how? Also hot
>>808342It probably crippled his ability to get the penis in the vagina. Among other things I imagine but I bet that's the most important.
you people need to stop complaining about not having sex there is a man right now in the middle east who just got his whole family killed and both his legs blown off by a drone.
>waaahh life is hard
uygha yeah, of course, but you don't know for shit how hard it can get, I can guarantee you that most incels haven't experienced hunger war or jail, the deep pain you believe you are in is bullshit compared to the pain most homeless people or inmates face on a day to day basis
>>808353you know sex is not a need right?
you are complaining about not getting a good feeling thing, well you do have food on your belly clothes on your back and a roof over your head, life is not hell for you, this is like complaining you cant get a ps5 or score a goal in soccer, it's an extra thing, not necessary to live
>>808353That man probably got to have sex though.
>>808355yeah, a few moments of release in a life of hell, starving, working 12 hours a day, never knowing if today is the day they die or get a life changing injury due to poor work conditions, also war.
I can guarantee you every person in a war zone haver would 1000% trade places with an neet incel if it meant not hearing bombs go off 24/7 and having a nice comfy hot chocolate.
>>808357Only if the neet incel lives in a first world country or has money. If you're a third world poor cel then that would be the worst. No point in being that.
>>808359>third world poor cel how many of you in this thread are actually that, how many 4channers are actually that.
truth is that life is easy for you so you live like a bum and make no effort, then complain that women don't wanna hang out with you.
>>808360Actually in my case I think women would actually want me but I'm too afraid and anxious. I have enough examples from my past but alas I just have never tried. I don't have enough skill to score as a bum and I have a job so not a complete bum.
>>808362you are anxious because you never faced actual adversity or problems, thus your life is not actually bad even if you can't get pussy, because not getting pussy is your biggest problem.
>>808363Maybe you're right. If I had faced adversity then I'd be drowning in pussy. Maybe.
>>808353>>808360>>808357This.
Most imageboard users are late prime age adults who complain far too much about not getting laid to nubile young women while dismissing the woes of younger people living in squalor to cut costs for college.
A lot of these whiners on here aren’t all autistic either. They’re allists with no social drive but have a strong narcissistic sense of victimhood with their constant complaints about “normies”.
They don’t have any hobbies not do they want any. They complain about women not noticing them but they get disgusted at women with “subpar” looks showing interest in them.
>>808363Nah. Adversity doesn’t make people resilient nor virtuous. In fact, it often makes people turn into violent monsters or complete weaklings
>>808353This.
The people who preach about how society is going to hell due to “brainrot” are often self-absorbed pseudo intellectuals that spend too much time consuming their own media preferences.
A lot of people on here who preach about wanting to ban the Internet or abolishing capitalism or promoting state-sponsored dating programs or banning cosmetics or reducing mandatory work hours to zero are just miserable assholes that want the world to be catered to them.
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