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>>794927>>801085yo, dis uygha look just like a devil may cry character.
>>801085Dis mang be lookin like baki character
Lmao that guy looks so unhealthy. It's funny to see how men are undergoing the same impossible standards as women
where did you find this picture of me LMAO
My wife's Bull has a cock like a fucking anaconda
The marital bed has been desecrated.
>>801085I'm so tired of men with wolfcuts and baggy pants. Can we get something else please?
How do I find and date leftist foids IRL? And I don't mean "leftist" like the "muh free healthcare support female cops vote blue no matter who" type I mean the real leftists.
>>801308i met a literal frankfurt school scholar in a sugar dating app lol
>>801291Idk, feel free to post what you like.
How the fuck do I become more flirtatious/bantery
Every convo I have is cursed to always end up a very boring exchange of information. Zero energy or juice
>how about that weather?
<it's nice, what did you do over the weekend?
>i hung out, how about you?
<same
>cool
>>801342Tell stories. For which you need to do stuff irl.
>>801352Or learn to lie real well.
>>801361I take it back, stop poating what you like
>>801361 don't listen to the other guy
>>801449Ungroomed bodyhair does no go together with clean shave and cat ears.
>>801512Good look for Sophie Turner, she actually pulls it off.
>>801516it wasn't too much removal so it kept the facial harmony, maybe that's why
My wife's Bull drives a van.
>she's only 19! what do you even have in common with her? that's a 10 year age gap
>both organize
>both politically active
>both have been incarcerated at a protest
>both read theory
>met in the same org
>part of the same working group
oh sorry, we aren't allowed to connect because we didn't grow up consuming the same products??
>>801540>she's only 19Can you post pictures of her intimate areas please?
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>>801540sounds like banging a chick at your workplace that is 10 years younger. whatever godspeed. keep us updated.
>>801540Fuck all this neopuritan crap. If I would give any advice to the next gen of men is I wished I stopped giving a fuck whatever the mass of retards think earlier. I think as is the consensus in this thread, they don't care if you are unhappy, they will mock you for it. Then if you are happy they will just find a way to tear you down for it. Fuck'em.
>>801549What advice would you give to a young married couple who are looking to introduce a feral, african Bull into their relationship?
>>801550I would advise you to get a life. There is more to life than spamming dead messageboards with your weird fetish spam, but do you king.
>>801551It's not a fetish it's a lifestyle.
Is there legitimately any hope for someone who is 5'8 and average looking
>>801559Serious question: have you considered transitioning?
>>801361I'd get him pregnant.
>>801533slinging dope, chicks love an entrepreneur
>>801540nothing wrong with a 10 year gap but i've literally never met a single 19 year old that didn't annoy the shit out of me
>>801559if you have average height and looks, then just lower your expectations and pursue average women
>>801566now see, say this to average women and you'll get criticism from them harder than any given to moids.
>>801566Ehh, honestly pursue whatever. I have often tried the approach of trying to shoot lower because maybe it will be easier and it never has lol. I just feel stupid because I am being jerked around just as much or even more than more attractive women I've dated.
dear leftypol incels: i recently joined an improv class to meet girls and maybe get over being such an awkward person. the first class went well, it felt a little cathartic. there's a couple of cute girls that seem on the shy end so if they stick around i think i have a solid chance. there's also a professional actor that can't hide her slight contempt when she sees a non-actor trying to perform, she's 30-something and is pretty hot too, completely out of my league. i'll let you know how it goes on a weekly basis but i think my plan is rock fucking solid. entirely fool proof.
>>801567they say this shit to each other in private all the time lol
>>801560Serous answer: no. I am happy with my gender and also my height, its just that others arent happy with it
>>801451but he's a furry. he needs to be hairy everywhere, just like a cat
>>801565I could say that same about anyone in their thirties and forties
>>801549I would take it further:
The correct advice would be to get good in all aspects: looks,wit, assets, talents, and hygiene.
And treat all women platonically.
>>801572That’s the thing though. You’re not allowed to say it to women in public, especially as man.
>>801623It is usually frowned upon to remark on someone's looks regardless of gender, and these sort of "frank" conversations about romantic expectations are usually behind closed doors. You probably don't know this but this is an anonymous imageboard and we can say stuff we wouldn't normally say out loud.
>>801361If he shaved his body id obliterate his prostate
>>801627I’m talking about how it’s considered wrong to tell women to temper their expectations.
Otherwise you’re right.
But that usually is applied to talking about adults. People talk about childrens looks all the time in a non sexual but still objectifiable manner.
>>801627 (me)
It goes without saying too but women intuit that they need to settle for less too, they lower their expectations a lot more than men and prioritize stable relationships over anything else.
>>801631>I’m talking about how it’s considered wrong to tell women to temper their expectations.Yes me too, retard.
>>801571I love it when imageboard users use hobby classes to get pussy.
Totally not shallow at all
>>801633>It goes without saying too but women intuit that they need to settle for less too, they lower their expectations a lot more than men and prioritize stable relationships over anything else.You act as if though men have too high expectations and don’t want stable relationships above all else as well.
>>801636Why not try out DoubleList instead
>>801634First, rude! Second, I also started a sales/rep position after being a developer for like 10 years, and I wanted to be more comfortable, a bit more receptive, and be able to react fast, so I thought improv would be choice for this shit, but this isn't nearly as interesting to document in this thread.
>>801342Get some adventures and hobbies under your belt
>>801637>You act as if though menThey don't, the main issue with incels is that they want to participate in hookup culture, like that shit isn't reserved for literal male models, and are afraid of committing to anything else.
>>801637>Why not try out DoubleList insteadI have a partner, so it would be wrong to fuck hookers on the side. I assumed that having a partner would kill my describe to go to AMPs, but it's really a different flavor of sex.
>>801641First off, there’s a difference between incels and “incels”
Please refer to this OP on Leftychan:
https://leftychan.net/b/res/158735.html#158735Those whiners are a minority of incels.
And those loud minority aren’t obsessed with wanting to do hookups. They want a pure virginal waifu for relationships.
If “inceldom” was about not getting any hookups, the problem would’ve been solved already.
>>801649>They want a pure virginal waifu for relationships.So you agree that their expectations are unrealistically high?
>>801645Of course.
You have a partner already but that’s not enough for you.
>>801650It is, but they’re not representative of the average man
>>801652They are obviously less cartoonishly deluded but I think men usually have high expectations because most see relationships as some sort of reward
>>801654Then you would have to say the same about women. Because they too see relationships as a reward.
>>801654If men have high expectations then so do women. It’s just that women are more sympathized for it.
>>801641>incels just want to participate in hooking up, the stupid peasants, don't they know that shit is reserved for absolute hemsworths?wierd, i thought incels wanted commitment and a tradwife and that's unrealistic, now they actually want to casually hookup and that's unralistic?
i swear its much easier for people to say incels are incels because xyz than anything else ever about modern relationships or lack there of, its always their monolithic fault o algo
like why the hell do women act like you ruined their entire month of killed their dog if you say hi sometimes, geniune looks of disgusts and how dare you
Tonight I play with the Bull's keys in the closet while my wife acts as a human semen depository in our marital bed.
>>801622>The correct advice would be to get good in all aspects: looks,wit, assets, talents, and hygiene.<just be attractiveWow what incredible advice. No shit.
>And treat all women platonicallyYes and no. That word is too vague. Acting like her gay bestie and emotional tampon is probably not going to ever get you laid 9 times out of 10.
>>801549As was said before the second Trump presidency, SJWs and alt right are two sides of the same coin.
They’re both reactionaries
And reactionaryism is often born from tall poppy syndrome.
Virgin here. Was wondering, how hard can you fuck girls? I’m asking because I don’t want to hurt them, but then I also fear coming off too soft and it hurts my pride imagining other guys giving the same girl a rough fucking while I’m Mr soft and sweet.
>>801715Depends on the woman and also how turned on they are. Warm them up first. You can ask her if it is hurting or making her uncomfortable.
>>801721Yeah I figured as much that it depends on the woman and how turned on she is, but I’m wondering if you can tell if you are hurting her from tone and expression alone? Is it obvious?
>>801728Once again, it would depend on the woman. I think an experiences woman would always tell you. I think an inexperienced woman might tell you too if it's hurting but I've heard stories about women who didn't know much about sex that just tried to quietly suffer through it but I think that'd probably be less common nowadays. If she's really into it she'll probably start humping you too or ask you to go harder.
>>801728>>801731>can tell if you are hurting her from tone and expression alone? Is it obvious?I mean like if she's grimacing or saying things like "ow" I think that's a pretty clear sign and you can always just motherfucking ask them if it hurts.
>>801715>but then I also fear coming off too soft and it hurts my pride imagining other guys giving the same girl a rough fucking while I’m Mr soft and sweet.Also you can fuck a woman hard and it doesn't mean necessarily fucking jackhammer the pussy. You aren't just a dildo on a piston. You have arms and hands. You got a mouth. You can do multiple things at once and that is the best. You know grab the titties, the arms, suck on the titties, kiss them passionately all why you're pumping.
>>801737And light choking, spanking, slapping(slapping the clit and titties), hair pulling, I was giving you the less risky options. Like I said from the beginning it depends on the woman and how turned on they are.
I never really got that whole safe word business, that's fucking crazy to me that some people have such "consensual non-consent" that you need a codeword for "I'm not enjoying this please stop doing that."
>>801571FYI, I took a university theatre class last semester with the similar explicit purpose of trying to improve my social skills (I am an autistic looser that lives with their parents) and to try to talk to girls. It had very mixed results, as I got a very big crush on the really cute girl I got partnered with, but I was super awkward in my interactions with her so she never seemed to really take any interest in me. She stared at the phone a lot when I said hello and goodbye to her once I was not paired with her in the second half of the semester, though I still talked to her way more then anyone else during my two years I’ve been in college.
I posted about this several times here this spring, and even though the semester has been over for a month, I still can’t stop looking at her picture every night and holding out hope that next semester I can make successful small talk with her in the coffee shop and try to create a friendship that could slowly evolve into a relationship over my final two years in college. I did manage to run into her once more after the theatre class was over during finals week, but she was talking with two female friends and I was only able to quickly ask how her finals went, and she said fine and then continued her conversation with her two friends and I told her “bye, see you around next semester”. I feared that I embarrassed myself (I don’t think I did anything wrong, but my confidence is so low I always assume everyone thinks I am a retard) and spent the first few weeks of my summer break crying every night while I kissed her picture on my phone.
I know everyone here will laugh at this and say I am a idiot for even attempting to talk to her and especially for continuing to try after she has seemed to not be interested in me, and their probably right. Unfortunately, I can’t stop attempting to start a friendship with her because she really is the only person who is not a family member that I have ever attempted to be friends with (she did talk to me more then anyone else) and who I have ever had any love for. I really want to text her before the next semester starts (hoping that I can arrange a meeting with her) but I am scared that she will block my number and accuse me of harassment.
What I have really taken from this first crush that probably has a 99.9% chance of failing to turn into a relationship, is that if I really want a girlfriend, I need to seriously improve my social skills, expand my interests, and find a way to get completely independent from my parents in the next few years. The reason to improve social skills is self-explanatory because though she seemed much more open to talking to me at first, I made several retarded fuckups (ie. I stared at her a lot, waited outside the building for her once, etc.) that seemed to creep her out, and now I am trying to fix her impression of me. The need to expand my interests is because I am way too obsessed with history (I am a history major) and politics (particularly marxism), to the point that I have a one-dimensional personality with zero normal hobbies and interests, and the fact that focusing on depressing history and politics is preventing me from getting a girlfriend is making me start to hate both subjects, and I am even starting to question my political views. I am starting to think I should just dump the Marxism thing and become a garden variety Bernie/AOC style soc dem, because the larpy “revolution” is either never going to happen or if it does it will be the result of some miserable dystopian violent apocalypse shit, and I don’t believe any girls are into that crap.
Finally, I need to live on my own and support myself because I don’t think being dependent on my parents will ever allow me to develop better social skills or expand my narrow interests, and I know girls are turned off by guys that live in their parents basement, lol. It will probably take me at least three years to get completely independent from my parents, and ironically, the only job I could ever do would be teaching history, either at the high school or community college level, depending if I get a teaching credential or masters degree after college. This is because despite the fact that history can be a depressing subject, it is the only thing I have any knowledge of or interest in, as I have zero desire to flip burgers, dig ditches, clean toilets, or sit in a cubicle, lmao.
I actually have a fairly positive experience with women overall. I understand very well why I'm not attractive at the moment and have no resentment towards women because of that. Despite that, incel posts are attractive on their own as a cheap emotional outlet.
>>801751>I have zero desire to flip burgers, dig ditches, clean toilets, or sit in a cubicle, lmao.Hardly anyone has any desire to do these things unless they had really shitty prospects. They're Usually just things that have to be done.
>>801186>men are undergoing the same impossible standards as womentrue
>>801186>unhealthydelulu, dude looks maybe a little underweight but not unhealthy
>>801771Muscles do not naturally form like that, this guy will faint any moment. Also shopped.
>>801186That was always a thing. It just wasn’t given much attention until now
Sometimes, when I get to sleep in the marital bed, I will catch a slight whiff of the Bull's semen (left over from earlier activities) and ngl it's the hottest thing ever.
>>801834You're right, thanks
>>801715>Virgin here. Was wondering, how hard can you fuck girls? dont worry about it too much because if there's chemistry on the bed then you both are going to be lubricating quite enough to not hurt them at all but like the anon said the key is communication, if you want to go rougher just tell them. and dont be afraid of starting slow either, sex is the game consistency is the name
>>801865Men are just better than women.
>Is it [hour of the day]?
<Yea
>nazi incel dialog tree on /siberia/
Hey guys I could use some advice. I'm part of a friend group and they're christians. This never really bothered me but lately they've been really pushing it like subtly trying to convert me. They're the only real friends I have but they're so annoying it's insane. They're also unironically still hardcore maga types, I'm not saying I need my friends to be commies or anything but it's so lonely having to be so distant. They know I'm atheist but they don't know I'm a lefty. What do I do? I kind of have started to hate them at this point but I don't want to be alone
I remember one time a girl I worked called me her baby daddy. She didn't tell it to me directly but she told other co-workers who eventually told me. That was odd, I mean I found her attractive but yea I wasn't going to procreate with her. I've been told various times in my life that I should have children by others, not from my parents because they know the truth and would've most likely had to be made responsible for whatever children I produce. That's why I ultimately opted to never reproduce as I was persistently unemployed and I lacked clear motivations in life and I still largely though not unemployed now. But sometimes I wonder if I had just said fuck it and gone for it what would've been the outcome? Not good I imagine. Would I have done it with the baby daddy girl or maybe this other chick who use to live in the neighborhood whose cousins wife asked my dad if I was available. My parents laughed at that because I had no job at the time and they assumed the girl needed a green card to stay in the country. There probably could've been other girls if I had been more of a player. Suffice to say I ended up a lifelong virgin of the incel variety or maybe volcel considering what I just wrote. It really feels like after a certain age, at least if you're a male, that virginity becomes an identity.
>>802042tell them the truth, and the truth will set you free
>>802048I am really introverted, but there are a few people who I get along well with in my life.
We just weighed the Bull's balls on a kitchen scale. He clocked in at 4lbs. Wow. Mine weren't even 1lb.
I'm a white sissified cuckold who works in advertising.
>>802177You are not white
>>802177No, you are an unemployed fat man with severe psychological problems that you must address.
>>802146That person should be shot.
>>802179>>802198I believe it because he said he works in advertising. So he's a weird sociopathic faggot.
Today I saw a beautiful Indian girl and I am reminded that racism is stupid and I really hate ugly people
>>802226Do you hate yourself?
I want to genocide uggos
>>802042Those Christian types are usually intolerant of nuance. Their faith is based on positivity and superheroism and whatnot.
They act as if though the world is out to get them personally for their religious faith.
They willfully ignore that most of the world has been Christianised to varying degrees
>>802230unironically most genocide propaganda back in time had the enemy depicted as ugly everytime, so you're no diffrent from reactoids
>>802308Someone should bioengineer a way to make everyone have a fatass. I think that's the only way. And that includes men by the way. But I also prefer women with fatasses.
My wife's busy getting creamed up by the Bull right now.
>>802226Nobody is racist against indian
women though.
>>802312Women are generally given inherent value that men aren't given. It's probably because they are seen valuable as keepers of and carriers of offspring also sources of comfort. Men aren't really seen as this or can't be seen as this either because of biology or gender norms.
>>802313Not relevant to this conversation.
I hate being in the closet I just wanna eat bussy and suck cock >:(
>>802312>Nobody is racist against indian women though.bruh have you heard american rightoids talk about jd vance's wife lol
>>802313men and women are valued differently and discriminated against differently. men are expected to be meat shields for the family and state, and they are expected to perform dangerous and damaging physical labor that destroys the body. men are expected to be confrontational, manly, willing to die for things, willing to get hurt for things, willing to start fights over things. women are expected to be quiet, non-confrontational, obedient, sexually available but also chaste, barefoot, pregnant, in the kitchen, etc. Women are expected to put up with spousal rape, domestic abuse, unwanted flirtation, and being treated as basically property. Some of this is historical and some of this is ongoing. Some of this is culturally relative. But in general I think it's a good idea to not make it into a pissing contest and realize that both men and women are people with feelings who deserve empathy and respect. Also nonbinary and intersex people obviously.
>>802335>women are expected to be quiet, non-confrontational, obedientbro didn't see the modern world and the current media were its okay and promoted for women to be girlbosses, tomboys for doing anything independently and stereotypically masculine ever. to speak their mind, to dump their patriarchal husband or boyfriend because if he's not the full package he's worth cheating on
its treated as a pissing contest because frankly, only one of the two genders can actually behave as it wants and not face as much scrutiny, as a girl if you want to live independently or be a mom, be masculine, be feminine its all up to you. you can still find love and have a social net, or a media that appeals to you
>>802042They are not your friends, they only need you for their saviour complex.
My wife's new Bull took one look at me in my chastity cage and burst out laughing.
>>802042Christianity is very sophisticated in the sense that it has evolved to retain believers and to expand its supporter base. One of its axioms is that, if you are not Christian, you will be denied entry to heaven after death and will therefore suffer for all of eternity (this was later specified to not apply to people who couldn't possibly have had contact with the religion as to retcon ancient indigenous people going to hell for no reason). This means that any Christian who has a non-believer friend to desperately try to convert them before death, and they do it with the best of their intentions. Their goal is basically to Ben Shapiro debatebro you into submission and they will keep trying until the day you die, regardless of your wishes, since they're indoctrinated to believe you're misguided and that they're doing you a favor. That's why hardcore Christians are often isolated from non-believers and the more lax "cultural Christians" who don't go to church.
If you can't disclose your political views with someone, they're not your friend. I've turned down pussy because of this. Make new friends, idiot.
>>802392> (this was later specified to not apply to people who couldn't possibly have had contact with the religion as to retcon ancient indigenous people going to hell for no reason).ignorance is better. your guaranteed to escape hell since its not your fault. while if you go out and tell people about god and Jesus its 50/50 whether you convert so your sending some of them to hell. but i guess the fires need fresh bodies to keep going or something
>>802397Yeah but God also wants you to spread his word or he'll send you to hell. It's literally Roko's Basilisk.
>>802398Lol yeah rokos basilisk is just a discount version of Pascals Wager
>>802313Not exactly true. They’re given value for their beauty. Women whom are born ugly or barren are cast off
>>802362media/twitter are not reality lol, do you even have a job or at least go outside
>>802398The Christian God is literally a covert narcissist who wants humans to verbally fellate him.
Did you know that Christian doctrine says that good people will burn in hell for not depending on God? That bad people who ask for forgiveness at the last minute will escape divine punishment?
Jehovah is not an empathetic mature deity
He even says that “I am a jealous God”.
>>802392Christianity is the most popular religion in the world that views itself as being heavily persecuted.
It’s popular because unlike most other religions, you’re not required to actually prove your worth. God will just use you and mold you as He wishes.
Christianity denies human agency as the virtue of humanity, even viewing it as detrimental to one’s faith.
It’s no wonder why it appeals to the lowest common denominator.
It appeals to people who never had any prospects or just wanna save face from their own sins.
>>802367I should humblebrag more so I could feel better about myself.
How do I keep the gay thoughts away??
>>802308It’s called liking fictional characters
>>802434Why on earth would you do that? You should enjoy them.
I'm making a list of Transgender porn prostitutes I want to have sex with. Probably in lucid dreams.
Some of them have HIV disclosed openly..BUT are there many, probably, who have UNdisclosed hiv\ghono\syph\other stds, maybe even first-stage AIDS?
>>802042Send them an edit of Bolsheviks blowing up churches to epic music
Do you guys think I'm the "random hot people on the internet"
>>802504 is thinking about?
>>802506If you look even halfway decent, yea probably. My standards bar is in literal hell
>>802362No one actually scrutinizes you as a man either. Sociality itself has collapsed so much that there is no way for society to strongly influence people, that's why zoomers don't drink, for instance. You can be a gamer or a total faggot and no one will do a thing, social pressure is nonexistent.
>>802508>halfway decentIt's so over
i just want to save money and retire early, i dont need a gf
>>801186>Lmao that guy looks so unhealthy.It's obviously not a real picture lmfao
>>802523This gets me thinking of how popular this sentiment is among either gender? I assume it'll be more of a reality as the value of romantic relationships seemingly keep collapsing. Although I assume the sentiment will be larger among males.
>>801751>The need to expand my interests is because I am way too obsessed with historyMaybe it's cause you're American but the girls I'm into are massively into history and marxism, do you not have classmates? I always read your posts and I genuinely feel you should have it easier due to your major, even if you're awkward and live with your parents, you should be able to woo art hoes in college. Like even Obummer knows this, it's in his book.
>>802526I think it would be an improvement for male psychology to see relationships not as "unrewarding" but unessential because currently they see relationships as flat out vindicating. Women know it which is why they think stuff like the 4B movement as psychological damaging to men, even though it really is dumb useless lifestylism
>>802526> Although I assume the sentiment will be larger among males.Maybe because men aren’t sympathized as much?
>>802530You’re right for the wrong reason.
Women still want and pursue romantic relationships. But they’re not portrayed as badly for faux pas in courtship as much as men are.
Also, like I said, men aren’t valued as individuals. They’re only valued as expendable warrior-jesters for the nation and butlers for womens whims.
Male individuality needs to be appreciated a lot more
>>802515Wrong. Social pressure exists.
It’s just that it’s now defeatist
I surrender my wife to the Bull because I cannot satisfy her.
>>802565That's bullshit. Typical glownonymous nonsense
>>802565That’s redpill, not blackpill
>>802599its a blackpill for truecels like me
I am sexually aroused by watching the Bull humiliate, slap and spit on my beloved wife.
What I miss most about being in Thailand is getting wasted and using bar girls as low cost therapy. There’s no functional equivalent in the west and that’s a war crime
>>802529It’s probably because of my Asperger’s which gives me really bad social skills, so I am scared that if I try to talk to girls about History, let alone my Marxist politics, they will laugh at me and think I am a weirdo. A lot of this fear comes from my parents telling me from a young age to mask my Asperger’s so that I wouldn’t get officially labeled/diagnosed. This is combined with the fact that before I took the theatre class last semester, I never really thought that much about trying to get a girlfriend, as I never had any friends in high school due to being scared of acting “weird” in front of them and revealing that I was on the spectrum. I will admit that the idea of having a girlfriend crossed my mind occasionally, though I used to suppress it and continue obsessing over my narrow interests of history and politics, and my subconscious desire for a relationship was obviously the main reason that I took the theatre class. It is hard to describe exactly how I got attracted to her, as I always thought the idea of love at first sight was hollywood bullshit, but I started falling in love with her from the first moment I saw her. Once I was paired with her for the scene I was having a full-blown crush and starting to imagine that I could spend the rest of my life with her.
It almost feels like I am not the same person that I was before I saw her, because before I got my crush on her I was completely absorbed in my narrow autistic interests (history and Marxism), and now all I really care about is her, and the most exciting thing I do every day is looking at and kissing her picture every night/morning. The saddest thing is that my love for her is not being reciprocated by her, as she does not even view me as her friend yet, let alone her boyfriend, at best she views me as a very minor acquaintance that she knew from one of her classes. If she ultimately never wants to be my friend, let alone girlfriend, I will never be angry at her (I am not some fascist incel chud that blames women for rejecting them, as I understand why girls find me unappealing and I am a leftist that respects female autonomy), as it is her right to decide who she wants to be with and I would never want her to do anything that makes her feel uncomfortable. Honestly, I love her so much that I would even not get angry at her for making fun of me and/or calling me a creep who should stop trying to talk to her, though this would break me heart and probably make me want to drop out of college and run away from my parents and the area I live in. I really hope that that never happens, and I will try to run into her and attempt small talk at the coffee shop as much as possible next semester hoping that a miracle can happen and she wants to be friends with me, and that this can slowly evolve into a relationship over my last two years at college, and that once I am on my own in 3-4 years she can move in with me and we could spend the rest of our lives together.
I know that the odds of it working with her are extremely low, but I have put myself into an extreme case of sunk cost fallacy because I have emotionally invested so much into my crush/love of her, that I would get even more depressed if I gave up and stopped trying to talk to her. I know that most people would tell me that I should give up and try to talk to other girls because she has shown very little interest in me so far, but the thought of having to replace her with someone else makes me extremely sad, because their is something really special about her that I don’t feel can be truly replicated by anyone else. Obviously, if I keep trying to talk to her next semester and nothing improves (ie. she only says a couple words, continues staring at the phone, etc.), and the semester after that the trend continues, eventually I will face the sad reality that I will never be with her and start trying to find a replacement. I also will never start having strong feelings of love/attachment for another girl until they start showing signs of being interested in me or at least some kind of real friendship. Obviously, once I am living on my own in the next 3-4 years I will have to find a replacement, assuming it dose not work out with her, as my fear is that I will be on my own with no girlfriend and I will get extreme depression from being even more lonely/isolated and will end up moving back in with my parents and retreat into a state of perpetual childhood. My most demented idea is that if it doesn’t work with her, and I can’t find a replacement for her that actually leads to me having a girlfriend, and I end up back with my parents after trying to be on my own in a few years, that I will have my parents pay for some weirdo online artist to use the pictures of the girl from my theatre class to make a realistic life-size doll of her that I can have sit in my room so I can imagine that I have a girlfriend, lol.
>>802628> I am scared that if I try to talk to girls about History, let alone my Marxist politics, they will laugh at me and think I am a weirdo.that's not how people work. they will mostly likely just kinda tune out if they don't care, but they won't laugh at you for the subject matter itself. If you have very weird mannerisms and stuff they might laugh at that. But even then, it won't necessarily be derisive laughter. Try not to be so self conscious and btw everyone has special interests that most people don't care about. the difference being that you ask people questions first and gauge whether they share your special interests before going into them.
>>802631Anon shouldve been good looking
>>802628>and I will get extreme depression from being even more lonely/isolated and will end up moving back in with my parents and retreat into a state of perpetual childhoodThat doesnt sound like childhood. That sounds more like perpetual loserdom.
Not mocking you of course, just pointing out some differences.
>This is combined with the fact that before I took the theatre class last semester, I never really thought that much about trying to get a girlfriend, as I never had any friends in high school due to being scared of acting “weird” in front of them and revealing that I was on the spectrum. I will admit that the idea of having a girlfriend crossed my mind occasionally, though I used to suppress it and continue obsessing over my narrow interests of history and politics, and my subconscious desire for a relationship was obviously the main reason that I took the theatre class. It is hard to describe exactly how I got attracted to her, as I always thought the idea of love at first sight was hollywood bullshit, but I started falling in love with her from the first moment I saw her. Once I was paired with her for the scene I was having a full-blown crush and starting to imagine that I could spend the rest of my life with her.This is where things always go wrong.
>It almost feels like I am not the same person that I was before I saw her, because before I got my crush on her I was completely absorbed in my narrow autistic interests (history and Marxism), and now all I really care about is her, and the most exciting thing I do every day is looking at and kissing her picture every night/morning. The saddest thing is that my love for her is not being reciprocated by her, as she does not even view me as her friend yet, let alone her boyfriend, at best she views me as a very minor acquaintance that she knew from one of her classes. If she ultimately never wants to be my friend, let alone girlfriend, I will never be angry at her (I am not some fascist incel chud that blames women for rejecting them, as I understand why girls find me unappealing and I am a leftist that respects female autonomy), as it is her right to decide who she wants to be with and I would never want her to do anything that makes her feel uncomfortable. Honestly, I love her so much that I would even not get angry at her for making fun of me and/or calling me a creep who should stop trying to talk to her, though this would break me heart and probably make me want to drop out of college and run away from my parents and the area I live in. I really hope that that never happens, and I will try to run into her and attempt small talk at the coffee shop as much as possible next semester hoping that a miracle can happen and she wants to be friends with me, and that this can slowly evolve into a relationship over my last two years at college, and that once I am on my own in 3-4 years she can move in with me and we could spend the rest of our lives together. Bro, she doesnt even know you that well and youre already crushing hard on her? If she was acknowledging your existence and hung out with you, fine, thats one thing.
>>802631The next sentence of my long rant states that my extreme self-consciousness comes from my parents training me at a young age to mask my Asperger’s in fear that I would get labeled/diagnosed, which led to me having very bad social skills, making no friends in school, and just focusing on academics. I elaborate later that my crush/love for her has become so consuming that I feel like a completely different person then I was before I saw her, and I have practically lost interest in everything but her, as my narrow interests (history and Marxism) no longer truly interest me anymore. History and Marxism are now just things that I continue to engage in out of pure inertia/habit and the fact that I have to pretend to have interests beyond my love for her, due to the fact that I know that the odds of it working with her are really low. This means that if I could find a way to have a real conversation with her I would be interested in whatever she is interested in (it literally doesn’t matter what it is, if she likes it I will like it) just to be able to have something in common with her to increase the odds of success. The problem is that I don’t want her to know that all I am interested in is her because then she will think I am a creep, lol.
It is also very interesting from a psychological standpoint how falling in love with her has given me a very different perspective on both history and Marxism. I will probably get laughed at by most on this website for saying this, but having strong romantic feelings for her has made me become a much softer person (I used to be a big edgelord) who is increasingly turned off by the dark, depressing, and violent nature of most of human history, though I still can read about it, get high grades in it, and eventually teach it, because it is the only academic area I really know about and the only career path that I could do (as I said earlier I am not psychologically cut out for flipping burgers, digging ditches, cleaning toilets, or sitting in a cubicle). Additionally, the whole concept of “revolution” that lies at the center of Marxism has really lost its luster for me, as actually feeling love for another human being has naturally made me very disturbed by the thought of all the innocent people that inevitably suffer and die during a “revolution”. I understand the counter argument that countless innocent people worldwide are currently suffering and dying as a result of capitalism, but I feel that most western Marxists (especially the larpy young college kids) don’t really comprehend the scale of destruction required for “revolution” to be successful in the 21st century, as it would probably have to be at a level that would make the entire 20th century look like a fucking picnic. So as cringe as it sounds I am starting to prefer reform to “revolution” and am on the verge of becoming a Bernie/AOC style social democrat, because I suspect that the material conditions for “revolution” will either never exist in the west, or would require unimaginable levels of bloodshed worldwide. Finally, I am not going to lie that the thought of the “revolution” putting the girl I love in danger, horrifies me and has almost made it that I can’t even read Marxist writings anymore or go on this website due to this fear. I actually have cried and had mental breakdowns over my fear that society could collapse in the next few years (I am scared that Trump will declare martial law during the 2028 election and start rounding up anyone that didn’t vote for him) and I wouldn’t be able to protect her. I am sure people will make fun of me for saying this, as I am very sorry that I am starting to question the ideology of this website, and I really don’t want to completely change my worldview over my personal life, but I would be a liar if did not admit this and I genuinely wonder if anyone else has had these thoughts?
>>802661> understand the counter argument that countless innocent people worldwide are currently suffering and dying as a result of capitalism, but I feel that most western Marxists (especially the larpy young college kids) don’t really comprehend the scale of destruction required for “revolution” to be successful in the 21st century, as it would probably have to be at a level that would make the entire 20th century look like a fucking picnic. So as cringe as it sounds I am starting to prefer reform to “revolution” and am on the verge of becoming a Bernie/AOC style social democrat, because I suspect that the material conditions for “revolution” will either never exist in the west, or would require unimaginable levels of bloodshed worldwide. Most of those “LARPing college kids” who are accelerationists are probably older than you think. Also to begin with, western leftism is mainly social democrat /radlib anyway
>>802661> It is also very interesting from a psychological standpoint how falling in love with her has given me a very different perspective on both history and Marxism. I will probably get laughed at by most on this website for saying this, but having strong romantic feelings for her has made me become a much softer person (I used to be a big edgelord) who is increasingly turned off by the dark, depressing, and violent nature of most of human history, though I still can read about it, get high grades in it, and eventually teach it, because it is the only academic area I really know about and the only career path that I could do (as I said earlier I am not psychologically cut out for flipping burgers, digging ditches, cleaning toilets, or sitting in a cubicle). Additionally, the whole concept of “revolution” that lies at the center of Marxism has really lost its luster for me, as actually feeling love for another human beingIf romantic love is the trigger for your increased compassion, I would hate to see what happens to you if you get rejected as are unable to handle the hurt anymore.
Romance is very flighty and unfortunately shallow.
Also, what are your career plans if this doesn’t work out? Because it sounds to me that you’re not really handling college all that well.
I really wish people would stop promoting college for socially maladaptive people.
>>802643I don’t think you understand how alone and isolated I am (my parents did a real great job, lol) as the scene I did with her was the closest I have ever been to any kind of friendship with anyone my age. She was very nice to me when I was doing the scene with her, it was only once I started acting weird around her because of how excited I was to be doing something with a cute girl, and the scene was over that she started to just stare at the phone and ignore me when I said hello and goodbye. I know how sad and pathetic this sounds, but that scene I did with her was probably the most enjoyable thing I have done in my entire fucking life, because I did it with someone I actually loved, even though I know she doesn’t even think about me, because when I did that scene I could imagine that I actually meant something to her. I can’t post about this anymore tonight as it is starting to make me cry typing this.
>>802666You’re too immature for love. Also were you socially isolated from your peers by your parents being control freaks or was it because you couldn’t fit in?
Tbh I think socialization especially as a developmental priority is overrated.
It’s mainly just idling across the cityscape looking for some fun with a group of peers you don’t really care about.
>>802663I didn’t want to post more about this, but I say your response and wanted to answer a couple of your questions. When it comes to what my other plans are, the reality is that getting a BA followed by a MA in History, so I could teach it at a community college is my only serious career option. I have to make that work because as I keep saying, I am not emotionally cut out for flipping burgers, digging ditches, cleaning toilets, or sitting in a cubicle, so if I didn’t get my BA and/or MA, I would end up being stuck in my parents basement forever which would just lead to me getting extremely depressed. Finally, when you say that your worried that if romantic love triggers intense compassion, you don’t want to know how I would react to rejection, you actually don’t need to worry about that because what I am feeling with right now is slow motion rejection from her. As I said even if she openly says she hates me and insults me to my face I will always love her and would never get angry at her or anyone else but myself. I could blame my parents for keeping me isolated, but I can’t even complain about them because they are financially supporting my loser ass, though it is essentially a Faustian bargain. The worst that could happen is that I could really start hating myself because of her rejecting me and never being able to find a replacement for her, which could force me to retreat into a fantasy land in my parents basement, where I convince them to give me a life-size doll of the girl from the theatre class to cure my desire for romantic attachment if I can’t get it in real life, lol.
>>802667I probably am too immature right now, but I will do everything I can to change that to give myself a chance. And to answer your question it was probably more them being control freaks who used the fear of my Asperger’s getting exposed to make me not have friends.
>>802670Teaching is a lot more emotionally demanding than digging ditches.
>>802616What's your favourite RLD anon?
I can’t not feel resentful toward women
I had sex like a year ago, that's all I need, sex once a year
>>802733Every community should have monthly sex meet ups where you just meet up to have sex. Maybe the last weekend of the month or something.
>>802734We'd have to get rid of our notion of sex as something sacred then
>>802688And the pay is subpar too.
>>802735Easier said than done I guess but I like that idea.
>>802670>When it comes to what my other plans are, the reality is that getting a BA followed by a MA in History, so I could teach it at a community college is my only serious career option. I have to make that work because as I keep saying, I am not emotionally cut out for flipping burgers, digging ditches, cleaning toilets, or sitting in a cubicle, so if I didn’t get my BA and/or MA,Idk if teaching history is a stable career in terms of money and emotion.
Ngl though office jobs must be hellish.
>I could blame my parents for keeping me isolated, but I can’t even complain about them because they are financially supporting my loser ass, though it is essentially a Faustian bargain. The worst that could happen is that I could really start hating myself because of her rejecting me and never being able to find a replacement for her, which could force me to retreat into a fantasy land in my parents basement, where I convince them to give me a life-size doll of the girl from the theatre class to cure my desire for romantic attachment if I can’t get it in real life, lol.You are the true definition of an incel. I don’t mean that in an insulting way.
You’re the legit definition of an incel: a man who is unable to get sex or romance due to a serious handicap.
You’re not the typical bitter asocial allist that has better sociophysical abilities but wastes it on passive aggressive anger.
All these so called “incels” could learn a thing or two from you about true helplessness.
>>802670>>802672This is proof that autism is God forsaking the human race.
All these self-affirmational platitudes about autism being a “unique way of looking at life” is bullshit and you know it.
It’s a curse that needs to be cured or screened.
I’m tired of people beating around the bush about it.
>>802661>my crush/love for her has become so consuming that I feel like a completely different person then I was before I saw her, and I have practically lost interest in everything but her, as my narrow interests (history and Marxism) no longer truly interest me anymore. >This means that if I could find a way to have a real conversation with her I would be interested in whatever she is interested in (it literally doesn’t matter what it is, if she likes it I will like it) just to be able to have something in common with her to increase the odds of success. Bro, you have genuine psychological problems if this happens to you. You should forget about politics for now and address whatever it is that causes your brain to behave this way. It sounds almost like a serious side effect from a drug.
>I actually have cried and had mental breakdowns over my fear that society could collapse in the next few years (I am scared that Trump will declare martial law during the 2028 election and start rounding up anyone that didn’t vote for him)This is also a sign of some kind of issue with psychological regulation. I understand that autism is not something you can get rid of entirely, but there are ways to work on it.
>>802747>It sounds almost like a serious side effect from a drug.Romantic love is the ultimate drug. Literally. The amount of neurochemical activity that romantic love triggers is akin to drug addiction
>>802770It is, kinda, but it shouldn't lead to total break down. This is a consequence of intense ideation too, I would know.
I have a front row seat to the Africanization of my beautiful wife.
>>802744The fact that some people are romanticizing autism as "quirky" is that they are just idealists. There are autists getting exploited and bullied in real life and these idealists just gloss over the struggles of autism.
>>802770Romantic love doesn't exist.
>>802840Romantic love is the expression people use for relationships in which sex is a socially acceptable option.
how do I get my milkshake to bring all the boys to the yard? I think mine has already gone sour.
As a man who’s fucked over 100 hookers, my preferred woman is a former sex worker
I think the derangement around sex society suffers from right now is the result of inconsistent sexual morals. Informed consent and monogamy are incompatible. There can be no socially sanctioned satisfaction for people with a higher libido than their partner. Force yourself on them and you're a rapist (currently only considered bad for men), cheat on them and you're a player/whore. Either way there are consequences. I don't really see any hope in polyamory because it is a niche transgressive thing, so it seems like the best thing for everyone would be to destigmatize sleeping with other people if your partner doesn't satisfy you.
>>802776True. Same for puberty. People tend to act like it’s responsible for all faux pas
>>802831These idealists think autism means you’re a walking encyclopedia. Most autists aren’t that loaded with trivia and besides, academic trivia doesn’t help in real life affairs at all.
The only thing that can help autists is having a more technical education and more outdoors time.
>>802872It’s more to gatekeep/regulate young people.
Older people are encouraged to get their mojo on, which it’s already “too late” for them
>>802871you have no idea what you're saying
>>802661>human history, though I still can read about it, get high grades in it, and eventually teach it, because it is the only academic area I really know about and the only career path that I could do (as I said earlier I am not psychologically cut out for flipping burgers, digging ditches, cleaning toilets, or sitting in a cubicle). Yea dude you’re fucked.
Academia is already a tough field to get into and you’re only good with one subject?
And you don’t wanna do any other form of work?
>>802883NTA but wdym by that?
It makes sense.
The only kind of woman that will understand and appreciate him and vice versa will be sex workers
>>802872>There can be no socially sanctioned satisfaction for people with a higher libido than their partner.my partner matches my libido and i still an uncontrollable urge to cheat. i don't think it's really a question of sexo, or at least, certainly not a matter of quantity. first, there's of course the irresistible allure of the transgression itself. it is absolutely real that there are women out there that *prefer* married man because they enjoy the adrenaline of the possibility of *getting caught*. Destigmatizing cheating would erase that allure I imagine. Second, there are some holes, sexual or emotional (or BOTH in a worst case scenario) your SO just cannot fill, I think destigmatizing cheating would not help in these circumstances because openly admitting your SO is not fulfilling you is kind of putting the absurdity of the relationship in the first place. Why are you in a relationship to begin with if your partner isn't tuned to your needs? What really is the nature of it?
>>802885I don't want to sound too mysoginistic but they're broken All their attachments are insanely anxious. It's also a bit of a pipedream, the hurdle between "being a client" and "being your SO" is an infinite chasm of misery.
>>802889Yep. There’s an old ghetto proverb: You can’t make a ho a housewife.
I have heard so many stories about suckers falling in love with good looking tricks trying to make her into a proper woman only for the woman to fuck him over.
“I can fix her/him” only works in movies and novels. Pus those characters are usually good looking anyway.
Me and my wife have a loving relationship even though she has sex with dozens of Bulls because I can never properly satisfy her with my clitoris penis.
>>802887And people think porn is le bad.
>>802883Factually, I’m drunk. So this may be true
>>802891>I have heard so many stories about suckers falling in love with good looking tricks trying to make her into a proper woman only for the woman to fuck him over.lowkey they deserve it tbh
>>802897What about if the gender roles are reversed?
>>802899probably yeah, pretty sure that shit happens a lot in host cafes in japan
>>802904Why “probably”? Why not “absolutely”?
Is it because you view women as less deserving of moral responsibility for their own transgressions?
>>802872>the best thing for everyone would be to destigmatize sleeping with other people if your partner doesn't satisfy youI think that most people are just monogamous by nature, and that the sentiment
<(s)he doesn't satisfy me but it's something I tolerate because I find value in other things they bring to the tableis what is called compromise, and that such a mindset is foundational to a relationship. people who think they can find "the one" who fits their exact proclivities and idiosyncrasies are deluded. EVERY. SINGLE. RELATIONSHIP. IS GOING TO HAVE. SOME AMOUNT. OF COMPROMISE. on top of this, "sleeping around" or infidelity isn't stigmatized because of some religious bullshittery, though that can sometimes come into play; no, it's stigmatized because it's mostly a destructive behavior that places the needs of one party over the needs of another. a relationship can't function like that, unless it's polyamorous from the start and everyone knows that they're getting into, and thus what to expect.
and so basically, a better proposal is
- suck it up buttercup, this is what you signed up for; talk about it with your partner and see what they say; the worst thing you can do is make a decision that will affect the both of you without their acknowledgement or consent; if you can't find a solution, then maybe it's time to move on.
- stay single and just fuck who you want with the acknowledgement that you'll never have the security of a long term relationship.
- just give up on relationships all together; this is the trvthnvke for the incels out there - just remove the 'in' from incel and suddenly you're doing it because you WANT to. you were always in control, baby.
>>802910>partner is intellectually unsatisfying<allowed to have stimulating friends>partner is sexually unsatisfying<this is your fault and you need to work on yourself sweetyBonus points for bringing up incels out of nowhere though.
>>802920everyone brings incels out of nowhere how's that a point? they are the easiest punching bag to bring up and punch
>>802920> this is your faultit IS your fault, who is forcing you to be in a relationship YOU are not satisfied with?
>>802920naw, dawg. you should try to enrich your partner as much as possible, get them involved in the things you like, and if they really are just that thick, then hopefully that fat ass makes up for it. if you a cheater, you're a bastard because:
- it's a (You) problem bish, like… how is it my fault that you're not satisfied when I'm giving you all there is to give? unless, you think I'm not, in which case, maybe we're both the asshole and you should ask reddit about it for validation points.
- you're selfish because you want to have your cake and eat it too. you want me to stick around and tolerate your tomfoolery, when I don't want to abide it, and then you have the gall to get uppity when I say maybe we should just both move on. fuck you, mane. I will survive, for as long as I know how to love I know I'll stay alive and all that jazz.
- having intellectually stimulating friends isn't debasing to me and my person and my expectations in the same way that sexual infidelity is. in the end, it's all about what you're willing to accept, and that means you could find yourself in a situation in which your partner is made uncomfortable by your intellectually stimulating friend, on the basis that it makes them feel inferior or whatever. is that unreasonable? maybe, but that's why you talk about it, like holy shit. you don't just disregard it and act like it'll fix itself, unless maybe you're peter griffin or some other ridiculous cartoon character.
when people tell you there's a problem, if you supposedly care, then you work toward finding a solution. infidelity isn't that, it's you making a choice that impacts the relationship without anyone else's consideration. is it wrong to be selfish sometimes? no, but like… assuming you CARE, that's the important part, then maybe you should show that you care and not just assume everyone's going to be alright with it. stigma or no, the pain that people would feel as a result of being cheated on wouldn't just go away.
or, maybe, we can just figure out a way to make it so that only cheaters ever get paired up with cheaters, and the rest of us real ass monogamous types can stick with one another.
>>802884I am getting a minor in anthropology, so I could also get an MA in anthropology and teach that as well or a related field like sociology, so there are technically three areas I can teach. I am not that worried about the pay, as all I desire is just to rent a cheap studio or maybe a one-bedroom apartment that is not to far away from the community college I teach at. If I could get lucky and get a full-time position I would be completely set, but I am smart enough to know that I will probably have to be an adjunct and teach as many classes as I can, probably at two community colleges, in order to pay the rent, lol. But I am willing to make a lot of sacrifices and give up my relatively comfortable lifestyle with my parents, in order to be an independent person and have a better shot at getting a girlfriend. The depressing part is if I do everything I need to get completely independent in the next 3-4 years, but once I am on my own a few years go by and I still cannot get a girlfriend and am still lonely and miserable, but with less money and more responsibilities, lmao. I probably could still rationalize it by telling myself that at least I am no longer an autistic looser living in his parents basement and that I am now a independent human being that may get lucky and have a relationship eventually. However, it will always break my heart if I can’t have a relationship with the girl from the theatre class, as I know this will sound really dumb, but I don’t think anyone will ever fully take her place in my heart, though I know that I will probably have to settle for someone vastly inferior to her and I am willing to do that to escape from my purgatory of loneliness and misery.
>>802744>>802831>>802881Honestly, being on the spectrum never felt like a problem when I avoided talking to my peers, focused exclusively on academics and my political views, and did not have romantic feelings. But since I fell in love with the girl from the theatre class I have started to realize why autism is a serious disability, because though it is potentially a benefit if you want to be a nerdy academic who has no friends/relationships and just reads books all day, it is fucking hell to be on the spectrum and try to make friends, let alone start a relationship. I know many would advise to pretend that I never met her and go back to the old me that was just content to read books and stare at the internet for the rest of my life with no connections with any human beings but my parents, but once you see the light you cannot unsee it, and if I have to spend the rest of my life trying to find a girl I can be with I will. I just wish it could be the girl that inspired me to escape from my Plato’s cave, but deep down I know I won’t be that lucky, and it is heart breaking to realize that.
>>802928To be fair, their is still a really small chance (probably 1% or less), that it could work out with her, and my attempts at small talk in the coffee shop could theoretically lead to a friendship that could slowly evolve into a relationship with her by the time I am finished with college. And once I finish my masters degree and am completely independent from my parents, moving in with her and spending the rest of our lives together. However, I am a very realistic person and know how small the odds of this miracle are, as I have always had the philosophy of “hope for the best and prepare for the worst”, in order to psychologically prepare for disappointment and avoid having, or at least alleviate, a mental breakdown, lol.
>>802927You're experiencing limerence boyo. It's not real love. Moving out of your parents basement won't hurt, but being a basement dweller isn't much of a disqualifier in this economy.
>>802936Don't wait around for someone you're attracted for it'll only hurt you. Make it clear you're interested from the start or you'll just get toyed with.
>>802939>You're experiencing limerence boyo. It's not real love.True.
>Moving out of your parents basement won't hurt, but being a basement dweller isn't much of a disqualifier in this economy.When you word it like that, it kinda does. But most places outside of the west have multigenerational residents.
I think the real problem is more a stable career/trade than anything.
>>802927Anon, serious question: suppose that you do get lucky and end up getting married. Would you wanna have kids with said person, knowing your neurocognitive disorder?
Would you risk having your kid suffer the same way you do?
>>802948Absolutely not for both personal and ideological reasons. The personal reasons first include the fact that even if I was lucky enough to have a relationship/marriage, being on the spectrum means that I would be a lousy parent as I am barely capable of taking care of myself (I believe that with enough effort due to my intense desire to achieve these goals, I can manage being independent, holding down a teaching job, and having a relationship, but I would not be able to juggle anything beyond those three things), let alone trying to raise a kid. Additionally, if it is really true that autism is genetic, I would not want to create another person with those issues knowing that I would do a horrible job raising them and would make them even more autistic. Secondly, my teaching career would barely provide enough money to pay for a studio/one-room apartment, which is fine for a couple but is obviously not suitable for kids, plus I despise the white-picket fence suburbia shit associated with raising kids in America, as it reminds me of my miserable childhood that I am trying to get away from. Finally, the ideological reasons include the fact that having kids in America is extremely Republican-coded, and is thus associated with fundamentalist Christians that I despise, and the fact that reactionary fascists like Trump, Musk, Vance, etc. want people to have a bunch of kids (in order to create more wage slaves for porky and to put women back in the kitchen like the 1800s), makes me not want to have any.
>>801865in other news i love the term hiplet because its something i can identify with.
god why did u make me like this
>>802939I know that it is Limerence (when a person has romantic love for someone that doesn’t love them), but I am desperately trying to turn it into normal/reciprocal love by trying to create a friendship with her that can slowly evolve into a relationship, though I completely understand how low the odds of success are (probably less then 1%). I am torn between wanting to text her at the start of the semester to arrange a meeting, or just trying to run into her at the coffee shop and make small talk that hopefully works better and leads to serious conversations that could create a friendship. I lean towards the latter, because I know the former would probably lead to her outright rejecting me, and I want to keep the hope alive as long as possible because I am so emotionally invested into my love/crush/limerence for her. However, if the small talk goes better then expected, especially if I am able to sit next to her while she is studying at the coffee shop and start a casual conversation with her about our different classes, then I will probably suggest arranging a meeting with her and/or starting to text her.
>>802960>Limerence (when a person has romantic love for someone that doesn’t love them),I thought it was a form of maladaptive daydreaming. Why make a new term for this when "unrequited love" already exists?
>>802962When I first started having my crush on her I researched about limerence (I first ran across the term on this thread, lol) and interpreted it as basically a synonym for unrequited love that turns into an obsession, what do you mean by saying that it is maladaptive daydreaming?
>>802960Just ask her on a date. You won't be happy just being friends. Don't go through that "will she won't she" bullshit. Your posts are autistic as fuck and you would probably torture yourself overanalyzing every interaction. Maybe I'm just projecting though. I was emotionally destroyed by a situationship a couple years ago and haven't fully recovered.
>>802974Unfortunately, she lives in a different state so even if I did make the brave choice and openly ask her out, I would have to wait until the fall semester begins. Do you think I should try to meet her at the coffee shop and then ask her out on a date face to face, or should I text her that I want to go on a date with her? I really don’t feel comfortable asking her out on a date yet, because I know she will probably reject me outright without me trying to build up some kind of friendship first. The only way I could feel comfortable asking her out on a date at the start of next semester is if I did not openly say that is what I was really doing, but just texted her, or asked her in-person if I went the face to face in the coffee shop route, that I wanted to arrange a meeting in the coffee shop at a specific time where we could chat and get to know each other better. To be honest, the whole point of me trying to run into her at the coffee shop is to create a spontaneous “date” with her without having to ask her directly and risk a rejection, by hoping that I can have successful small talk turn into a serious conversation where me and her could learn more about each other, with the most ideal scenario for this being me sitting next to her while she is studying and starting casual conversation about the different classes that me and her are taking.
In the past I have been spontaneously mounted by the Bull with a questionable level of consent involved.
>>802956>Finally, the ideological reasons include the fact that having kids in America is extremely Republican-coded, and is thus associated with fundamentalist Christians that I despise, and the fact that reactionary fascists like Trump, Musk, Vance, etc. want people to have a bunch of kids (in order to create more wage slaves for porky and to put women back in the kitchen like the 1800s), makes me not want to have anyThis is partially true.
Democrats are also pro-natalist as well.
A lot of progressive people have kids and raise them to be accepting of LGBT and ethnocultural diversity.
This idea that only conservatives are pushing natalism is just a lousy strawman.
>Additionally, if it is really true that autism is genetic, I would not want to create another person with those issues knowing that I would do a horrible job raising them and would make them even more autistic. Secondly, my teaching career would barely provide enough money to pay for a studio/one-room apartment, which is fine for a couple but is obviously not suitable for kids, plus I despise the white-picket fence suburbia shit associated with raising kids in America, as it reminds me of my miserable childhoodSmart man. Most anons on here would want to have kids as an additional prize for getting the girl. Never mind the at fact most of them are not of sound mind or have any home training.
Also, what’s so bad about suburban living?
I can understand the lack of pedestrian zoning, but I wouldn’t mind it. Have you ever grown up in apartment complexes? They’re not so fun for childhood, especially if you’re on the spectrum.
>>802960Anon, can you stop trying to kill yourself like this?
What if she’s out off by you?
Also, no offense but you’re the fitting the bill of the stereotypes of awkward men being creeps.
>>802956>plus I despise the white-picket fence suburbia shit associated with raising kids in America, as it reminds me of my miserable childhood that I am trying to get away fromThere’s a reason why people move to the suburbs when they have kids.
Try having kids in urban settings. Especially when it’s all apartment complexes.
The only problem with suburbs is the lack of pedestrian areas and lack of corner stores.
If you thought you were miserable in a suburban home in America on the spectrum, imagine being raised in urban settings on the spectrum. Especially dealing with delinquents or bullies who go out of their way to harass you. Or the local predators that prey on the less socially cognizant. Need not be sexual. Some predators are druglords who prey on loner kids who have no social lives to be their running miles.
>>802960>or just trying to run into her at the coffee shop and make small talkyeah that's right, find out her favorite spots and then stalk them to see if you can manufacture a spontaneous encounter, nothing can go wrong when there's a little bit of stalking involved. also continue having obsessive thoughts about her, just to get you in the proper headspace needed for stalking properly. cowards will tell you to stop, but you should triple down. get someone to hack all her socials. steal her phone. put a tracker on her backpack.
>>803181Wasn’t this “stalk her favorite social spots” a thing in the previous couple of threads?
>>803184i swear this exact conversation came up a couple months ago
>>803185was it 6 months ago? because i'm pretty sure it involved holiday breaks too. history anon, did you post this exact thing 6 months ago too?
The Bull makes the important decisions.
>>803181>>803184>>803189I’m not a fucking stalker, I go to that same coffee shop to study and get tea/coffee all the time when I am at college, it is not like I started going their just because I saw her their or I am following her around all over the campus, lol. All I am trying to do is just start up small talk with her if/when I run into her their in order to give myself a chance of having a friendship with her that could potentially evolve into a relationship. Unlike a stalker, I completely respect her autonomy/privacy and would completely accept her rejecting having a relationship or even a friendship with me, as I would never want her to do anything she dose not want or that would make her feel uncomfortable in any way. I am not a fucking fascist republican evangelical Christian piece of shit that wants women to be barefoot kitchen slaves with 20 kids and no right to control their bodily autonomy. I believe women are rational autonomous human beings with agency and the right to say no to a man. Just because I am trying to maximize my odds of talking to her and having a friendship that could hopefully evolve into a relationship doesn’t mean I am some kind of fucking creepy stalker, as I know my boundaries and the minute she would ever tell me that I am making her uncomfortable I would immediately apologize and stop trying to talk to her. It would break my heart if this happened, but I would completely accept her choice to not want me in her life in any form because I sincerely respect her and care about her.
The Bull has an exceptionally large cock.
>>803204Honestly, I feel you’re wasting your youth like this tbh. Just stick to your studies.
I want to hear more about one guys bull. Sounds interesting.
>>803214Up until a few months ago, that is all I ever did, but once you see the light you can’t unsee it. Though I sadly understand that it will probably never work with her and I will eventually have to find another girl that actually wants to be around me.
>>803221>and I will eventually have to find another girl that actually wants to be around meAgain, don’t do it. It’s not for you. Stick to yo studies and get a stable job and domicile.
You’re autistic and have no other skills or hobbies.
How the hell do you think you’re gonna land a girl except a lonely granny?
I’m tired of listening to people flopping in college due to sexual/romantic frustrations.
If you’re attending college as a means to get laid and seek romance as redemption for being a loser throughout childhood, you’re gonna fail inevitably.
>>803221>but once you see the light you can’t unsee itThe typical shitty rationalizations
I think autistic kids need to have a separate social culture. Raising them with the same social/cultural aspirations as neurotypicals was a big mistake.
>>803226This gets me thinking how many people really flop and fail in college because they couldn't have a good time? Personally when I was in college I also flopped but I also never bothered to seek relationships like this History major anon. So I sort of failed in both accounts although I did finish my degree but I didn't much with it.
>>803229This is because college is overpromoted as the new rite of passage.
It should be restricted to the best of the best of students.
Everyone else has to do a few hundred hours of community service per semester to be eligible for enrollment.
>>803229>So I sort of failed in both accounts although I did finish my degree but I didn't much with itWhat work do you do now?
>>803229>Personally when I was in college I also flopped but I also never bothered to seek relationships like this History major anon.I did extremely mediocre in college but it purchased me some 12 years of stability at least
>>803236Explain?
You mean twelve years of not having to move out of your parents house?
You could still live with your parents while working.
>>803226>>803227I do focus on my studies still while I am trying to start a friendship with a girl that could evolve into a relationship, as I still got A’s in all my classes last semester. As I said earlier, I am going to get my BA and MA in history, move out of my parents basement and rent a cheap studio while I teach history at a community college. But while I am doing this I will try to improve my social skills (my autism is extremely high functioning, as the main reason I never had friends is due to my parents sheltering me way too much) in order to eventually find a girl that is open to a relationship with me. Nobody is going to convince me to stop trying, as I am not living in my parents basement forever or going to be content being some miserable lonely loser forever. Maybe I will find some quircky autistic girl, lol.
THE BULL HAS ATTACKED! He is in attack mode!
>>803239If your motivation to mature is finding romantic love, idk what to tell you
Also, a lot of those “quirky autistic girls” you seek are unicorns. They’re gonna be more likely to seek neurotypical guys who have some snazzy hobbies.
I AM CURRENTLY BUILDING A FORTRESS TO KEEP THE BULL AT BAY
>33
>never had a gf
Whats the point of living bros?
we woke up this morning to the smell of smoke coming from the Bull's campfire. he has circled our defenses and will lay siege agaisnt our walls. may god have mercy on us
My wife's Bull owns multiple vending machines.
I’m going through hooker withdrawals
>>803233School night custodian. I think I should've just got into that without bothering with college. I don't regret going to college that much and it seemed to be promoted as the main path towards success and it might've been if I had had actual concrete plans but I didn't and I never had a clue what I was going to do with my degree after I finished. Maybe if I had actually socialized in school I might've gotten somewhere. This university anon who's seeking advice seems more assured in what he is doing than I was when I was there even if he's going about date seeking in an awkward way. I think the fact that he's asking and doing stuff about it a step up from what I did or didn't do. In fact I'll say that the younger you are when you start complaining about dating the more likely you are to find success rather than waiting till you're older and become more bitter about it.
>>803352>School night custodian. I think I should've just got into that without bothering with college.Being a school custodian sounds cool. It’s a steady and relatively stable job. At least it’s not a store clerk. I would rather deal with spills and bodily fluids than have to deal with whiny customers, especially since store clerks don’t get paid that well…
>I don't regret going to college that much and it seemed to be promoted as the main path towards success and it might've been if I had had actual concrete plans but I didn't and I never had a clue what I was going to do with my degree after I finished.That’s how colleges get you. Most people don’t have any concrete aspirations/dreams. That’s a thing that’s been oversold. But, most people arent keen on going into doing any high-level elbow grease work, so that’s why college is dangled in front of the people as the only path to salvation.
It’s a sneaky profiteering industry. I remember reading some articles saying that student loan debt is more prevalent than credit card debt for young people nowadays.
> Maybe if I had actually socialized in school I might've gotten somewhere. Schooling already operates on socialization and I think that’s kinda the problem.
>This university anon who's seeking advice seems more assured in what he is doing than I was when I was there even if he's going about date seeking in an awkward way. Idk. I think he’s just on perpetual dopamine hit.
>I think the fact that he's asking and doing stuff about it a step up from what I did or didn't do. In fact I'll say that the younger you are when you start complaining about dating the more likely you are to find success rather than waiting till you're older and become more bitter about it.I don’t say no, but I also think that this constant indoctrination about “shoot your shot when you’re young” in non-utilitarian life choices often end up wrecking people.
If anything, I think for situations like anon, there should be courting lessons and fashion makeovers and whatnot
“Shooting your shot” can only work if your specs are maxed out.
I honestly am starting to hate this “underdog wins the girl by sheer grit” narrative that parents and teachers teach kids.
It often backfires.
I have decided to appease The Bull through diplomatic means, but I don't think he understands language
I've been thinking about not pursuing romantic relationships anymore because they drain my energy, I just want to have sex and as such I will only pursue women to have sex with them and dump them later. How viable is this?
And how exactly do I not fuck this up? I'm very autistic and I don't think going up to a foid and saying "Do you want to have sex with me?" will work.
>inb4 that works if you are chad
I'm not chad but I'm good looking enough that I've been able to attract women in the past but I fumbled them all because as I said I'm too autistic.
>>803397Well, knowing how vindictive women can be, and the fact that you’re autistic, you’re gonna fuck up somewhere down the road.
>>803392????
Is this another psychosexual fetishization of ethnic men?
>>803414He's laying waste to my crops
The Bull has presented his application form to Y Combinator to receive funding for his AI startup and hopes to be interviewed by Gary Tan
>>803409Do you think it's possible for me to achieve the goal of fucking a foid?
Anon's wife's bull has ended his run, now thanks to trump bombing Iran it's his wife's bear
>>803428Probably. But you'd likely have to do the most amount work you've ever done to attain that goal that you may fold before you get to that goal. Maybe paying for it might be the best way to get it because it might be the easiest way.
The Bull said I need to lose weight.
>>803433Oof… May not be worth it. I think I'm going back to masturbating.
>>803471Female characters in fujoshi manga are kinda the same way
>>802661>The next sentence of my long rant states that my extreme self-consciousness comes from my parents training me at a young age to mask my Asperger’s in fear that I would get labeled/diagnosed, which led to me having very bad social skills, making no friends in school, and just focusing on academics. This is how gifted kids often end up
>>803449Save up to get a sex doll or some immersive VR porn
I used to be Newgene's worst enemy, but I've been celibate for 2 years or so now, and it feels fine. The desire to be in a relationship has almost faded away. I traveled for almost six months all by myself, achieving a childhood dream, and this would have been impossible if I had a girlfriend.
I keep hearing about how men have stopped dating, and I think this is great, a legitimate reaction to the 2010s when every man were labeled as aggressors and creeps for any slight "micro-aggression". It's affecting the entire developed world too, in China, there are apparently more and more speed dating events where you have 10 men for 300 women. Women have unrealistic expectations about financial situations, don't want to replace the assertive role of men previously had in dating, and are not ready to change.
It's absolutely awesome. I spend most of my life without being in a relationship, so for me, it's business as usual. It's like going on strike, but I don't have to do anything except being myself, as I always have been since I was a teenager.
I do miss the touch sometimes, the cuteness and so on, but masturbating a bit generally take care of it pretty quickly.
I hope this situation continues. In a world that wouldn't be so fucked-up, I would rather wish that people would find love and companionship as life is hard and it's a decent respite from capitalist hell, people are way too atomized today, but since the world keep being shittier and nothing change, let it be so, they deserve it. Friends have been infinitely more faithful to me than any romantic partner.
The Bull was railing my wife while they were both standing up, and then he turned around mid way through so I pretended to duck and said "watched here you're pointing that thing" 🤣
>>803756I've been celibate my whole life. I probably started getting sexual thoughts at age 5 or so so it should feel very aggravating not ever having sex and reaching middle age without having done it. The feelings come and go and right now they're really coming more than in my 30s. Anyways I don't ever plan on fucking and the general state of the world makes less willing to partake in that activity. I've generally been an anxious and miserable person much of life so I think that played a big role. It gets more aggravating because like I'm expected to be in a relationship or something but I just don't see how I could any sort of decent partner. I also don't see others as being that great either. Two subpar humans probably won't make a good relationship. It doesn't feel good much of the time but it's probably for the best.
>>803781>Two subpar humans probably won't make a good relationship.I would say it's false, and it's exactly the problem with modern dating. People expect to date perfect
products instead
people.
One of the huge parts of dating in the past was to collaborate with someone who is fundamentally different and either grow together, or split up once the breaking point is reached. People don't have the patience anymore to do that, they want someone perfect from the get go.
And the worse is that most people are really mediocre, aren't passionate about anything, they just go through the motions of boring modern life. It's okay, I'm quite mediocre in plenty of ways, but I find it sad that people believe they deserve someone flawless when themselves are boring, neurotic or cliché. A relationship is more interesting once it reaches the point where you can
both share your experiences and feelings beyond the usual hypocrisy of modern society.
No one wants that anymore, everyone is scared of being "low-value" like an underpaid service employee, so let's it be so.
>>803798That’s why I say romance is worse than lust.
I have noticed that lust has a far greater track record of appreciation of flaws and nuances than romance.
Growing up we have been taught that love is blind and kind, lust is shallow. Six years ago, I’ve realized that love is far more picky and discriminatory than lust.
Romance isn’t just about the tingling in your pants, it’s also about the tingling in your chest and head.
It’s about forcing people to LARP a storybook.
People often are more easily disgusted by differing political and aesthetic opinions in the realm of romance than in lust.
People will break up with you for not having “respectable” career, being a different age group, differing dialect, etc
Compare that to lust where people are far more diverse and appreciative of differing ethnocultural or physiological specs.
>>803798>One of the huge parts of dating in the past was to collaborate with someone who is fundamentally different and either grow together, or split up once the breaking point is reached. People don't have the patience anymore to do that, they want someone perfect from the get go.In the past, it was expected that you marry someone similar to you in terms of ethnocultural specs.
Also relationships back then were more based on utilitarian motives. People were trained from a young age in their respective gender roles.
Nowadays, romantic relationships are about “first impressions” and are gatekept as adult amenities.
>And the worse is that most people are really mediocre, aren't passionate about anything, they just go through the motions of boring modern life. It's okay, I'm quite mediocre in plenty of ways, but I find it sad that people believe they deserve someone flawless when themselves are boring, neurotic or cliché. A relationship is more interesting once it reaches the point where you can both share your experiences and feelings beyond the usual hypocrisy of modern society.There’s been a counterculture in romance since the 1990s/2000s where awkwardness is seen as a virtue.
It especially became glaringly clear in the 2010s with the whole “anti-Mary Sue” sentiment.
Pop culture journalists and media Pepsi users have been pushing dorkiness and mediocrity and anti worldliness as the new form of cool.
Millennials and Gen Z now think young people wanting to dapper themselves up is narcissism.
Anime has been targeted by both the left and right as promoting paraphilia.
Yet, time and time again, outside of the big screen, awkwardness and mediocrity are shunned in the dating market.
>>803798>One of the huge parts of dating in the past was to collaborate with someone who is fundamentally different and either grow together, or split up once the breaking point is reached. People don't have the patience anymore to do that, they want someone perfect from the get go.That's a dumb way to go. I don't want to date someone with baggage from like a dozen long term relationships. That's a recipe for disaster.
>>803873>In the past, it was expected that you marry someone similar to you in terms of ethnocultural specs.Yeah traditionally, you didn't "date" period. You might court someone. But dating is itself a modern invention and probably why most marriages end in divorce nowadays.
>>803876>But dating is itself a modern invention and probably why most marriages end in divorce nowadays.Dating is an evolution of courting.
It probably started out originally for upper class people.
Or maybe dating has existed even before then but it was mainly limited to teens before official courting.
>That's a dumb way to go. I don't want to date someone with baggage from like a dozen long term relationships. That's a recipe for disasterDon’t you know that slut shaming is bad? B it yea, you’re right. Even the most radlib feminist wouldn’t wanna date someone whose acquired a lot of baggage unless they’re rich and good looking.
Tbh, slut shaming is nowhere near as bad as virgin shaming.
I’ve noticed that even right wingers look down on people with no sexual experience.
No joke, sluts and deadbeat breeders get more respect in society than childless gooners
The Bull has turned into a doppelganger version of myself and has heralded the apocalypse
>>804091For real??? Holy shit!
>>804092This was shortly after I discovered my wife had murdered two gay men in her rancid apartment
>>802048they ignored this anon because they told the truth
>>804248Why havent we had any organizations around the PUF concept?
>>804260Aren't the Quakers one?
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