It seems like quite a few of the /siberia/ regulars frequent sex workers, so I thought why not create a thread to discuss our shared pastime.
Posts may include field reports, questions, travel tips, STD prevention, advice etc. Obviously keep it all anonymous and no links to specific sex workers please.
85 posts and 5 image replies omitted.>>804620>>804690>>804704>>804710You’re not a Marxist, that’s for sure. You’re more of a bourgeois moralist who believes in some ideology that has made rape into this spectacular event that deserves everyone’s attention and requires everything to stop it, even if it means implementing an anti-communist state police.
Also, it’s clear that you only say that because prostitution as it exists in countries like Germany and Thailand overwhelmingly favors men and wouldn’t be a Prohibitionist if the main beneficiaries were women.
Hence why none of the SWERFs ever discuss gay prostitution LOL
>>805069And then feminazis wonder why most young men are chudding out on the woman question too.
>>805071oh GOD not fucking north africa
my mate from algeria had an american woman that calls him my muslim prince but refuses to actually pay him anything on dates or help his mom when they visit his home.
i dunno about you but it'll be bad behavior if a guy in thailand was passport bro-ing and fetishized an impoverished girl while still not helping her when it benifit him, but we'd attack the man more easily without thinking
>>805093I find this archetype fascinating because I never knew it existed for so long. I had a white American coworker who ran through Arab guys over the span of about a year. She ended up getting her ass beat by her Arab husband when he found out she was running through entire madrasas. It’s okay though because she was a garbage person who used to brag about treating men poorly.
>>805092This
>>805103And was a terrible coworker. Her career plan was just throwing others under the bus. Needless to say, she was MAGA
>>805104>she was MAGAi mean come on now even magas try to appeal to family values and monogamy why the hell would she be a MAGApede while running through guys and throwing others under the bus when they aren't appealing? what a hypocrite
>>805105Lust and biological desires make people forgo their ideals. Money also works.
>>805105It's a common sentiment I see on /pol/ that liberal women are more trad and womanly/demure than conservative women who all tend to be aggressive whores.
>>805109The trad-wife ideal is typically expressed by right-liberals who lack the material to live the american dream, when you get there you realize its a whore race against other whores to be the biggest whore in order to get the best divorce settlements.
>>805107>Lust and biological desiresIf we’re being honest with ourselves, given the opportunity, and short of something particularly unbecoming, we’d all fuck someone who we don’t ideologically align with but is really hot.
Anyone who says otherwise is being disingenuous.
>>805105MAGAs don’t really believe in anything except for an inherent sense of superiority contingent upon their identity. Which is generally whiteness, but there’s a ton of non-white MAGAs that make up some shit about judeochristain values or whatever
>>805109I believe it. Try asking a liberal woman to pay the bill for food or do anything that sucks and is traditionally associated with men
>>805091Gay prostitution primarily exploits the underclass, every communist nation to ever exist has banned prostitution, in short kill yourself your ideas are slop and work backwards to justify your rape of women, any communist in power would beat you to death with a tire iron.
>>805121<Jokes on you, I refuse to read That guy, probably
>>805120>>805121And those communist countries failed to curb it. So clearly they were in the wrong.
Plus you forget that we live in a capitalist country, so pretending that prostitution is le “rape” (something you can’t even define anyway without resorting to bourgeois legalisms) is basically upper-class moralisms.
You could appeal to authority all you want, but it would still be a fallacy you dumb misandrist. Besides, do you deny free will, yes or no?
>>805129How is it any different for one, for two you should read up on what a grisette is.
>>805127We have free will, but that free will is influenced by super-structures and exists within a dialectic of pee-determined class position.
>but outliers exist within the system!And?
I would still want to eliminate the need for it, I would also disavow anyone I know personally for fucking prossies.
>>805133If you are getting women through buying shit it for them, it is no different them paying in cash. Plus you should read up on what a grisette is. Ir literally means poor destitute women who prostitute. There lives were much worse then any of these professional sex workers you are screaming about.
>>805136Just because Engell's joked about fucking prossies doesnt mean I have to agree with him, you are a retard.
>>805137Fine, don't. You are the retard who started this appeal to authority business.
>>805139Lol, just doubling down on appeal to authority. They also banned homosexuality.
>>805132In other words, you don’t think free will is real, but rather than some nebulous hyper-structure leads to determinism. Ok idealist.
> And? I would still want to eliminate the need for it, I would also disavow anyone I know personally for fucking prossies.That sounds like a case of sexual envy more than anything. Even if the prozzies were poor AF, it wouldn’t deny their agency the way ideologues like you want to. Besides you also fail to explain how rape is anything other than a legalistic term contingent on relativity moreso than racial categories which are at least based on the material reality of genetics, unlike “rape” which is solely determined by feelz and what the government thinks is more convenient and opportune.
Fact is, the very fact that most criticisms of prostitution wouldn’t even exist if men weren’t the prime beneficiaries is enough proof that the gooncerns over it (as well as over surrogacy and intergenerational intimacy) are based on sexual envy and limiting sexual opportunities for lower class men.
If we lived in a communist society, then it would be one thing. But focusing on prostitution as le bad whilst we live in a capitalist gynocentric society is basically just pearl-clutching for virtual signallers.
>>805141>sexual envybut i fuck women for free all the time anon
So let's move on to what are the legal and ethical boundaries of prostitution? Is buying exspensive gifts for a woman to fuck you prostitution? Is paying her rent and her car note prostitution? Is taking them on an all expense paid vacation prostitution?
>>805139The communist states you speak of also persecuted homosexuals and other LGBTQ people. A lot of the people running these states, whatever their merits in the fields of economics and politics, had weird moral hang ups that we should recognise.
It's also worth noting that today in Cuba, China and Laos the governments largely turn a blind eye to the sex trade, even if it is technically a crime. They at least don't waste their time setting up complex entrapment operations like the christo-fascist american cops do.
>>805145So you are saying "compensated dating" isn't prostitution?
>>805142Nothing is free uygha, we are all sex workers. Did you waste 8 hours or so amusing some THOT into pity sex or had to pay for a date? Yeah, that’s my point.
>>805142Then why do you care so much about two or more individuals doing something transactional in the privacy of their own bedrooms?
Sounds like you still have envy and sexual possessiveness despite allegedly being sexually successful.
>>805148No, not really. Is there some similarity? Sure, but are you also gonna say buying someone a drink is prostitution? I just think basically people should be able to do what they want, if someone is happy being a sex slave if they get all their bills paid then good for them. If anything I feel like the sugar daddies are often the ones getting screwed over in these arrangements by people that know they're weak
>>805153>Nothing is free, we are all sex workerscan't tell if its a soulless neoliberal subject who has internalized transactional marketplace ideology to replace normal human social relations, or just an fascist incel (are they the same thing?)
>>805155>No, not really. Is there some similarity? Sure, but are you also gonna say buying someone a drink is prostitution?Now we're talking like amounts. If every time or every other time you fuck this chick, you have to buy her a Hermes bag or whatever, I think it's pretty clearly prostitution.
>I just think basically people should be able to do what they want,Sure why not, you can't stop them anyways because you can't police interpersonal relationships like that. You can't make buying people gifts illegal or paying their bills. It seems what gets everyone bothered about out and out official prostitution is just the formality of it, when really that seems the fairest way to go about it.
>>805160Maybe it's a broad generalisation but there's a fair amount of truth to it, if your partner is bringing all the money into the home are you telling me you're not gonna work harder to please them?
>>805162I mean I still don't know if I would literally call that prostitution though obviously it's similar. But yes I guess you're right, it's about how much money you're spending. Though then again, if a billionaire buys another billionaire a Lamborghini then that's basically the same as a drink to us, so perhaps it's more about the relative amount the financial value means to the recipient.
>>805073Your white female friend going to Nairobi is the functional equivalent of your white male friend going to Pattaya. Spread the word.
>>805181>no argument>>805153turns out words dont mean anything, also women pay for MY dinner chud.
>>805165>Maybe it's a broad generalisation but there's a fair amount of truth to it, if your partner is bringing all the money into the home are you telling me you're not gonna work harder to please them?Honestly, that kind of arrangement is way closer to being a sex slave then being a professional prostitute. Me and my friend, we took this girl out for Halloween, and she brought her friend who was dating some director guy or something, living with him, life paid for by him. Young chick. My friend was trying to put the moves on her the whole night and the conversation was pretty funny. She's like "no, noo, I'm faithful to my boyfriend whatever" and my friend asked, "well where the fuck is he right now? Why isn't he taking you out tonight?" and she said: "I don't care as long as he comes home to me!" I mean it's a common sentiment you've probably heard before but it was just funny the whole back and forth the whole night.
>>805194But yeah, we picked them up from downtown at these like top-tier luxury apartments, don't know which ones of them's place it was, they probably both had sugar daddies.
>>805190Probably busted ass chicks. You get what you pay for.
>>805195>>805194Oh yeah, the other funny part of the story, my friend had met the other girl I didn't talk about much at the club, he told her what our plan was for Halloween, we were going to drive out to this party that was a little bit of a way out, like an hour drive, then she gets in the car and tries to change the plan to go to this other party, but we were like fuck that, we're doing what we're doing. Somehow the girl with the director BF didn't seem to realize until we were half way there where we were going and her friend had lied to her too about what our plan was, and she was like "no, I can't do that I have to be home by this time" because of the BF. But she was super chill, she was just like, "drop us off off right here and I'll arrange a ride."
Anyways, another point I wanted to add is in like the 1st world and shit, a lot of these chicks aren't like destitute women who have no other options or anything unless they're like a streetwalker, but even then they have options. It's just women don't want to work a shit job and rent a shit apartment like the rest of us, they want to live a life of luxury while they "still got it," so that's why they're sugar-babying, escorting, prostituting whatever. Hell even the streetwalker types, they just like to fucking get high and party 24/7.
>>805197That Socrates pfp guy is a LARPer. I can claim to be part of the Dutch royal family and that would be as truthful as that LARPer claiming to be a casanova.
Fact is, if “he” was that sexually successful, he wouldn’t be moralfagging about prosties in the first place. I mean, calling prostitution “rape” is the equivalent of calling street-cleaning “slavery”, but I’ve yet to see moralfags calling for the abolition of street-cleaning the way they cal for the abolition of prostitution. Quite funny, and really goes to show how the entire discourse is based on vibes and sexceptionalism than actual harm.
Like, how many women want to be paid for cleaning bathrooms at McDonald’s compared to being paid for sex? I know the LARPer would say the former is better because there’s no muh “coercion”, but let’s be honest the average foid would rather be a paid hoe than a paid janitor. Being a female politician is basically being a prostitute sans the downsides of actual prostitution. That, despite the fact that inceldom in America is only a thing due to prostitution being illegal sans a few super expensive brothels in Nevada.
>>805215This.
A lot of this automatic social coddling of women for having menial jobs when they live in an era of autonomy and equality is paradoxical.
Many prostitutes nowadays aren’t all born and raised in slums.
A lot of them came from well-off homes and graduated high school and even have some college experience.
These women choose to do these jobs for convenience
>>805215> Like, how many women want to be paid for cleaning bathrooms at McDonald’s compared to being paid for sex? I know the LARPer would say the former is better because there’s no muh “coercion”, but let’s be honest the average foid would rather be a paid hoe than a paid janitorAs a janitor who worked in fast food, I can confirm that female coworkers are averse to cleaning bathrooms.
I have worked in shifts where it’s female majority and I’m always the one who ends up doing both mens and women as restroom cleaning.
I’m the one that changes out the menstrual waste bags.
Any women who do janitorial work are usually either older or butch.
Your average feminine prime age woman is not gonna do it.
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