As posts
>>5147 >>5132 >>5103 >>1969 demonstrate, the US Navy ship-building for the future is disorganized, the only ships I can think of being constructed properly in these past few years was the recent Gerald R. Ford Class Nuclear Aircraft Carriers. Everything else has been a mess. Russia has had a similar problem, but that was primarily due to the dissolution of the USSR fucking up its industry and other socio-economic aspects in general. The depiction of e.g. "rusting Soviet-era hulks", has some basis in fact, but conceals as much as it reveals. Russia's famously "old" submarine fleet, for example, isn't older than the US submarine fleet and ships in general have expected service lifespans of 35-40 years, with many US Naval ships easily being older than some of Russia's. The real problem for the Russian Navy has not just been the retention and poor-maintenance to date of late-Soviet-era ships, but the low rate of production of new vessels to replace them, with the largest warships produced since the USSR being the 6,600t Ivan Gren landing ship and the 5,400t Gorshkov class frigates. And that's an entirely different discussion.
The USN is just an example of Capitalism in decay: - The USS Bonhomme Richard was scuttled because repairing it after the fire damage in San Diego would have cost a little over 3 billion dollars and take 3 years. Meanwhile, the cost of replacing the ship outright in 2020 (when it was decided to be decommissioned) was 4 billion, so rather than repair a damaged but seaworthy ship that exists, the Navy is opting to replace it in the future for an extra 1 billion dollars, even as costs go up, with the cost of a replacement for the Wasp-Class light carrier rising to over 4.1 billion dollars as of 2023. Considering that constructing a new ship of the class takes 3-4 years, it the Navy's decision was idiotic, but in part due to a lack of repair facilities.
- The larger USS John C. Stennis and George Washington have had their RCOH delayed heavily, with the two carriers only expected to come back into service at the end of 2026 and 2027 respectively.
https://topwar.ru/244574-kapitalnyj-remont-avianosca-vms-ssha-dzhon-k-stennis-otlozhen-na-zavershenie-rabot-potrebuetsja-bolee-5-let.html https://www.sycamoreinstitute.org/post/sinking-the-navy-s-sunk-cost-fallacy https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/05/17/us-navy-ships-shipbuilding-fleet-china-naval-race-pacific/ Of course it doesn't help that the US Navy relies on Japanese steel and ship-building even as said steel has been substandard for literal decades
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-United-States-build-a-new-carrier-group-every-five-years-for-the-next-fifty-years/answer/CaiLei-2 https://topwar.ru/243123-na-rodine-sroki-rabot-prevyshajut-gody-vms-ssha-peredajut-kompetencii-remonta-korablej-japonskim-verfjam.html So in other words the famous shipyards of the US Navy have rotted into incompetence and impotence.
https://news.usni.org/2019/05/31/fitzgerald-co-destroyer-repairs-at-risk-from-poor-shipyard-fire-safety The same is applicable to European ships. As seen in the Ukraine posts about economic production failures this is also a problem of the over-all military from tanks and artillery, to missiles and ships (
>>4991 >>4897 >>4823 >>4824 >>4693 ).
The UK's aircraft carriers have had numerous problems, ranging from smoking engines and rust, to fires and breakdowns.
https://news.usni.org/2024/02/05/u-k-carrier-hms-queen-elizabeth-sidelined-european-carriers-head-for-pacific https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/royal-navys-aircraft-carrier-nightmare-just-wont-end-209971 The same applies to their Nuclear submarines
>>4646 due to budget cuts reducing maintenance and causing corrosion issues that haven't been solved since they were reported.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/16/submarine-corrosion-cost-cutting-mod-memo https://topwar.ru/245326-jeto-pozor-britanskij-admiral-raskritikoval-sostojanie-jadernoj-infrastruktury-soedinennogo-korolevstva.html Not to mention the lack of safety for the Trident missiles:
https://wikileaks.org/trident-safety/ https://www.navylookout.com/a-credible-deterrent-trident-missile-fails-during-test-launch-from-hms-vanguard/ And other smaller ships have had issues with internals because British drydocks are fucked, such as the Type 45s whose engines literally die in the heat of equatorial regions of the Ocean.
https://topwar.ru/231942-problemy-sudoremonta-v-anglii.html https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/21/royal-navy-warships-crashed-into-each-other-due-to-faulty-rewiring-say-sources Danish, German and Italian Warships have had numerous missile launch problems, and these were known in advance but not resolved because it wasn't seen as an important issue
https://www.politico.eu/article/danish-defense-chief-dismissed-after-warship-malfunctions-in-red-sea-battle/ https://www.businessinsider.com/missile-misfire-damages-deck-of-a-german-navy-frigate-sachsen-2018-6 https://www.twz.com/sea/danish-frigate-suffered-radar-combat-system-gun-problems-during-red-sea-ops-reports >the German Navy’s Sachsen class frigate Hessen mistakenly fired two SM-2 missiles at a U.S. MQ-9 Reaper drone. The Reaper survived the incident only because those missiles failed to function >the (Danish) warship was unable to fire its ESSM air defense missiles for a half-hour period, while “up to half” of the rounds fired from the (Italian) twin 76mm guns detonated too early and close to the ship. The most recent German warships are also poorly armed and extremely pricey while failing their trials.
https://archive.ph/6Qnxr Canada's Arctic patrol ships are a joke, both in design and in actual execution. Based on civilian Coast Guard vessels They have no CIWS, no military grade SONAR and RADAR, a terrible top speed for ships of their size and class, yet are supposed to be PATROL ships.
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/latest-breakdown-on-new-arctic-ship-blamed-on-failed-diesel-generators https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/royal-canadian-navys-new-arctic-ships-have-a-severe-flooding-problem-say-sailors https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/leaks-ineffective-anchors-mechanical-breakdowns-among-ongoing-problems-facing-new-arctic-patrol-ships https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-navy-critical-state-1.7044267 https://nationalpost.com/opinion/our-navy-sinks-toward-impotence