/anime/ - Anime

>>24954
Alot of the victims of "cancel culture" are often washed up has beens looking for some sort of renewed relevance.


>>5011
most anti anime folks are into macho cartoons and shit.

Same for the people who shit on video games while going wild for ballsports television.

>>24954
i can see that happening, but at the same time there must be pressure from management to keep the audience growing and if she ever gets to be too much trouble they'll just retire her, so her biggest incentive right now is probably to keep the pandering "ironic". not an enviable position to be in but she did it to herself although if i ever had to talk to a screen as a full time job i'd probably say a lot of stupid shit too, all it takes is one or two clips of unfiltered yapping to get a bad reputation

>>24957 (me)
that said i've never heard of her or watched her streams so this is all a completely abstract discussion to me, i dunno why i'm even commenting on it

No. She's made explicitly racist comments and jokes before. She is a racist.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ForwardsFromKlandma/comments/xuwjyw/pipkin_pippa_is_a_neonazi_and_heres_why/

If she would like to wash her image of racism, either because she cynically doesn't want to repel potential viewers and revenue or because she genuinely isn't a racist anymore (doesn't really matter which), she cannot ignore that she has been publicly bigoted in the past. To do so is to sit on a time bomb. She has to address it.

>What I mean is that, someone says something which offends X group, there's a woke backlash, said person ends up hanging out with alt rightoids because they are the only one who'll comfort and accept them and then they end up converting. I've seen shit like this play out all the time. Its probably what will happen to Pippa eventually. Just look at how badly Bernie Sanders was attacked for his all lives matter comment.
No, what you are trying to imply makes no sense. To take offense and be repelled by bigotry is completely natural, especially for those towards whom the bigotry is directed. I feel kinda ridiculous writing out something so obvious. Furthermore the alienated crowd will not reconcile and embrace the bigot (without them first reforming) because it'd make no sense for them to bottle their frustrations for the sake of this one person. Their frustrations being that an influential person grants legitimacy to exclusionary attitudes by casually, callously, and ignorantly commenting/joking about them. Act which could have real material effects in their lives (there many examples of white nationalist and anti lgbt terrorists who have committed massacres and who have admitted to have admitted or been found to have been influenced/emboldened by such rhetoric).

>>24961 (me)
>who have admitted to have admitted or been found to have been influenced/emboldened by such rhetoric
who have admitted to or have been found out to have been influenced/emboldened by such rhetoric*

>>24954
>They have the internet historian/Reddit idea of what a channer is
That's because they don't know about Moot selling the site to a nettouyo. They either have fond memories of 2006's 4chan or look at it in its current state. This site is actually populated by 4channers disgruntled by the /bol/ rot so we are the only ones who know about this really.
>her aggression and attitude make her refreshing
Discount Tenma.
>said person ends up hanging out with alt rightoids because they are the only one who'll comfort and accept them
In reality the alt-right can be just as whiny and obnoxious as the woke snowflakes they criticise so I wouldn't call the experience "comforting," Pippa is just changing one mob for another. It's a common misconception that you have to "pick a side" to be successful, this is the reason why right-libertarians have delusions of conservatives being libertarian. In reality this is not the case: look at Zizek or Chapo or any other dirtbag leftist who became popular. Even centrists like Destiny oppose both sides of the culture war. Still popular. But I don't blame people for thinking otherwise, I know how polarized the political discourse is on the Internet nowadays.

>>24961
>Japanese co-worker
I feel like I know exactly whom they're talking about.
>Happy Merchant
Already discussed before though I haven't seen any mention of the other controversies. I'll have to look into them.
>To take offense and be repelled by bigotry is completely natural, especially for those towards whom the bigotry is directed.
I don't think they meant bigotry in this context. It's usually white cishet males like Agent Kochinski who "defend" such groups from "bigotry" without asking whether they're offended or not, ironically invalidating their feelings and agency. The anon has mentioned the Bernie Sanders example to illustrate what they mean. A person saying "All Lives Matter" isn't necessarily racist since the phrase "Black Lives Matter" doesn't necessarily imply that white lives also matter. Which is ironically precisely the same occusation of dogwhistling to racial supremacists as those leveled against those who use the phrase "All Lives Matter." We live in a time where both sides of the culture war think that whatever the other side says is a dogwhistle, this is so incredibly stupid, people cannot have a normal conversation with each other any longer.

>>24959
>dunno why i'm even commenting on it
It's fine anon, you've still made some good points.

>>24954
>They have the internet historian/Reddit idea of what a channer is, we're all /b/ and /pol/ and Nazis.
lmao it hasnt been 2010 for a decade and a half brah, the /pol/ brain rot is everywhere

<inb4 but what about this dead board or the few people that complain about /pol/ and get laughed off each thread

>>24954
Sad to see that Nazis are still pushing the same whiny bullshit excuses and you keep falling for it
> waah I only wanted to play video games but you forced me to become a Nazi because of woke, I'm totally the victim in this situation!!
Why do you fags keep falling for this shit?

>>24961
I don't put stock in soundbites, clips, and guilt by association. Who hasn't made a George Floyd joke? Or a joke about the Jews? We do it here all the damn time. There is a difference between edgy racial humor and genuine ideological racism. These days its hard to tell but that's the modern internet for you. Pippa is a yank and therefore probably a racist. I do find it funny when yanks accuse each other of racism. I mean race is everywhere now. We're all more or less saturated in this colonist idea of race which shapes who we are and our place in the world. The idea that racism is a psychological issue, a bunch of bad ideas some people happen to have, is peak liberalism. What if Pippa isn't a Nazi? The consequences of smearing her as a Nazi could end up pushing a person into thinking "fuck it the chinlets are right fuck these people attacking me." I've seen this happen to people before.

To clarify, I'm not saying Pippa is or isn't a Nazi. Unless she comes out endorsing Nazism then this is all speculative. Is she a racist? Idk but I'll tell you as someone who's non-white you kinda take shit from everyone more or less and its not always intentional either. Its not the case that some people are the horrible bad racists and everyone is okay. It doesn't work like that and wherever you go you'll get some level of exclusion or mistreatment.

Last thing, one thing that's really disturbing about online discourse is and unwillingness to forgive and the inability of the person who's done wrong to make amends. Let's say a big V tuber brags about how much she hates uyghurs. Okay, what if they realize that was wrong and hurtful and how do they come back into the fold without a fake YouTuber apology? She'll just end up being demonized and attacked and nobody but rightoids will watch her. If there's no way back to the straight path people will just stick with the far right because that's their audience now.

>To take offense and be repelled by bigotry is completely natural, especially for those towards whom the bigotry is directed.
Right but today its very easy to upset people without realizing it. Bernie Sanders didn't know "all lives matter" was rightoid talk and Twitter didn't understand that an 80 year old Jew doesn't get their terminally online culture. But what was disturbing was the way some people took Bernie's comments as a personal attack. Nowadays, almost anything can be construed as an attack. We live in the age of the politics of wounded egos and the oppression Olympics where people like being offended and seek it out for clout. In an age when content is broadcast to the widest possible audience its very easy to upset someone without realizing it. e.g. I often make racially edgy jokes among my black friends and all of them know I'm not a Nazi because we know each other. Similarly, when Dave Chappelle made racially edgy humor decades ago he had a relationship with his audience and they knew he wasn't a racist. In today's world, your not just dealing with your audience but the whole of social media and Twitter and they don't know you and nowadays people are eager to attack.

>>24966
>That's because they don't know about Moot selling the site to a nettouyo.
Lets face it there were a lot of problems with 4chan before Moot sold it.

>>24970
Yeah but they think all imageboards are like 4chan /b/ or /pol/ swimming with Nazis. You can't advertize your little comfy retro anime board without having to deal with the stereotype of "chan culture" as a bunch of subhuman psychopaths who spend all day throwing around naughty words.

>>24970
Funny how some people excuse 4chan by saying that Reddit isn't much better. Like it's an excuse to use either of these sites. Many new 4channers are even ex-Redditors from r/TheDonald because their subreddit got banned. Also, Reddit is at least a platform for isolated communities which allows subreddits like r/stupidpol and r/redscarepod to exist, whereas the /pol/ mind virus has infected most of 4chan's boards. You're out of luck finding any genuine leftists here.
>>24973
>waah I only wanted to play video games but you forced me to become a Nazi because of woke, I'm totally the victim in this situation!!
Just because a person has converted to alt-right as a knee-jerk reaction to idpol doesn't mean they're a "victim."

>>24974
>We do it here all the damn time.
Where? We only make wholesome jokes about Hiroshima and Uyghurs here.
>The consequences of smearing her as a Nazi could end up pushing a person into thinking "fuck it the chinlets are right fuck these people attacking me." I've seen this happen to people before.
Doubt that but this kind of attitude certainly pushes people away.
>>24974
>Last thing, one thing that's really disturbing about online discourse is and unwillingness to forgive and the inability of the person who's done wrong to make amends.
That's why I'm on the dirtbags' side. I don't like conservatives at all but progressives do have a habit of doing what you just said.
>I often make racially edgy jokes among my black friends and all of them know I'm not a Nazi because we know each other.
I don't think racist humour is all that funny. Hiroshima jokes however…
>Lets face it there were a lot of problems with 4chan before Moot sold it.
Sure but Nishimura has only made it worse, Moot was at least trying to keep /pol/ a containment board (which was a bad idea in the first place but oh, well).

>>24977
There's a difference between racist jokes and jokes about race and racialism

>>24978
>There's a difference between racist jokes and jokes about race and racialism
Jokes about race still often involve a lot of negative stereotyping though, they are very hard to pull off. The Boondocks is the only example I can remember where making fun of black people worked well. It's made by a black guy who clearly understands the problems in black communities better than your average Caucasian.
>racialism
Haven't seen this word used by anyone other than Nazi dogwhistlers. "Race realism" is also a common dogwhistle, though there's nothing inherently racist about thinking that races biologically exist, I happen to believe in that (limited only to the phenotypal differences, not the freaking behavior and IQ like racists like to think).

>>24974
Bad publicity gets more ratings than good publicity.
Also, people have always been easily offended.
They used to burn rock n roll records for experimental soundbites.

And lastly, I tire of edgy racist humor as an icebreaker.
I know youre not being offensive but its annoying.

Gonna miss the Ame, I wish her well

>>24974
edgy humor like gore and racism are overused.
I dont agree with the whole "people are too senssitive nowadays".
People used to be thrown in jail or thrown off TV for risque humor.
Rock n roll and gangster rap had their music records burned by indignant conservatives.

Cancel culture is an exaggeration.

>>25871
What did she get fired for?

>>25896
>edgy humor like gore and racism are overused.
I like to call it "safe edgy" because it's always just punchdown idpol or stuff that is disturbing but by no means against the rules of the venue.
Like Youtube straight up gives keywords/keyphrases related to rightoid talking points and anything with a detectable human face, wojak or pepe an artificial SEO boost as per agreement with the Heritaige Foundation. It is the new TV and maintaining the illusion of neutrality through careful rightward nudging of the overton window isn't the most profitable option available anymore because everyone will keep using YouTube regardless because they have network effect. Mobile games no one will ever play and thinktanks that have went full-on-and-beyond Qanon have money to piss.

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>>25901
An old thread was merged into a new OP to have an OP pic again

>>25901
Them 'tubers be bouncin'

>>25903
She Vs on my tuber till I Gura

>>25898
From what we can tell she wasn't fired, she seemed to leave because she got tired of the corporate bureaucracy of Cover. Even so, she now has a weird status in the company where she ""might"" return in specific instances like moichandising, maybe a very specific stream. She and others have hinted that she ""might"" return in a full capacity in a few years. It's a status strange to Hololive that is more akin to what a "graduation" is for real japanese idols than the full on terminations like Mel/Rushia or the complete breaks with Cover like Kiryu Coco. In any case, she's relaunching herself as an indie and will be having her debut stream (which is of course in 3d because ameway) on the 25th.

>get curious as to what a chuuba i watched on/off during covid is up to now
>channel is nothing but react garbage to chinlet vids now
guess hunt the showdown wasn't paying bills anymore, what a shame

The only vtuber I know is Kizuna Ai, not none of these lame ones for the young people
Korone and Fraiki are not bad though

>>26679
Both Kizuna and Korone are too tame, I prefer indie vtubers and Hololive Indonesia, they don't have to be too family-friendly or always act nice. I don't mean I like coomerbait or whatever. I mean, Gura couldn't even play Metal Gear Rising because of her management forbiding it, imagine that. Even Pomu played it, c'mon. So lame. You can shit on Nijisanji all you want but Pomu and Finana are cool, shame they didn't go indie.

>>26681 (me)
But of course the best vtuber is obviously HeavenlyFather. How can you not love that handsome guy. Just look at him.

Hot.

man I decided to check out the new hololive-en gen and I hate it. zero seiso, they can't spend 30 minutes without bringing up ao3 tags or tiktok brainrot. I understand when it is VAs like kiara that have been doing this for 4+ years, it's natural that they have completely tuned out of it by now. but this generations tuned out at like day 0

and the software is bad. the open source variants are way ahead but for some reason agencies refuse to switch over. like, hololive still has eyelid stuttering on some riggings

>>26681
they let them play new vegas but they have to skip nipton. I'm not joking

unhinged collab between the new holo-id and holo-en generations

My favorite 2view twitchtuber said some retarded racist shit a few months ago, got cancelled, and now I'm sad.

I wanted to believe she wasn't racist since the original incident made her look dumb rather than malicious, but since then she's been schizoing between apologizing and not-apologizing over it for the last 2 months which makes it much worse imo.
Like just do a charity stream for blm or whatever and stop with the ambigüity, the chuds already went away lol.

>>26681
>shame they didn't go indie.
Honestly idk if you're for real or not but Mint seems pretty different from Pomu for me so I guess you're right in a sense.

>>26764
Who was it?

>>26764
>Mint
Whom?

>>26772
Normally I would keep to myself here but whatever, this board isn't visited by anyone and she's a relatively unknown 2view too.

Name is AfterSchoolSophie, she is (was?) a fighting game vtuber who organized community tournaments every week. She is (was?) more on the boring side of things in terms of personality, looks and vibes but her content choice is (was?) rather unique and she didn't seem like a bad person, some of the things she said struck me as one of these neo-streamers with petty porky delusions at times but it wasn't that bad.

She sang racist shit about "uyghas" because someone requested a racist song (very stupid) and twitter ganged up on her for this, since then she appears to be torn between apologizing to the cancelloids or just trying to force people to memoryhole the incident and it's really annoying. It's making her unwatchable.

>>26773
Maid Mint Ch.
Pomu Rainpuff's previous and current vtuber persona; streams on youtube.
Her content isn't that different but I think her energy is very different, she also sounds very different too.

Still don't know if you're for real lol but I'll pretend you are.

>>26788
>Still don't know if you're for real lol but I'll pretend you are.
I legit didn't know Pomu was an indie VTuber before, I'll check her out, thanks.

I used to hate all streamers, but then I found a nice streamer that only plays at 2am on sunday and monday and is quiet and chill. Now I get it

>>25900
If there was an Alunya impersonator vtuber in 2025 then it would be a fat retarded transhumanist that sounds like 50 year old alcoholic

i miss mocca…

>>26795
doubt it, such a person would be a facecam streamer
when it comes to leftist spaces, fat and ugly people really like to make themselves seen even when they can simply don't do that, and I don't get why

>>26795
I wish. 90% of vtubers now are 28+ yo hags that only talk about their days in college or their last trip to europe or whatever. it completely ruins the format, you were getting stuffed by 3 massive cocks just a week ago and now you are acting all cute pretending to be an anime girl? what's the point of watching that and not just a regular female streamer?

I would be much happier if they were disgusting old men. trying to find vtubers willing to do the "idol" thing is sad and tiring, and even when you find one they eventually make a slip or break character

to all the 50 year old alcoholics reading please, please, please get a voice synth and a rigged model and start vtubing, I'm hurting, I need it

>>26804
I tried one of those AI voice changer things on my manly voice a few months ago and it's still not there imo. YET, I think it's perfectly serviceable if the audience is willing to play pretend and just roll with it, beats any babiniku using their normal moid voices, both gruff trucker and virgy soyboy voices lose to current AI tech imo.

Too bad all these programs are like pure spyware or worse.

>>26802
Tbh that's just all political YouTubers. Although I do remember one VTuber extreme female vocalist being an explicit commie, though she doesn't talk about it much.

>>26806
does it really need to be AI? aren't there regular voice synths that make you sound like an anime girl? maybe vocal training like trans women?

>>26807
That's Futakuchi Mana, she's pretty cool.

The second she talked about communism anon rushed to make a new thread about it on /vt/ and it's not even hyperbole. She got wise to it I'd wager.

>>26810
A voice synth + vocal training is the best option overall, but the one that requires most effort.

As an side, AI helps me with my thicc ESL accent thoughever.

>>26813
>>26807
She's been pretty open about it on her recent twitch streams from what I've seen.

>>26813
>That's Futakuchi Mana
Yep, that's her. I discovered her and obkatiekat while I was looking for metal VTubers. Because screw J-pop, I'm not a complete weeaboo, thank you very much.

thoughts on vtuber trollface phonk edits?

>>26813
>As an side, AI helps me with my thicc ESL accent thoughever.
twitch/youtube link?

ok so I found a 2view that plays a female character, the only problem is that half of the time they forget to do they voice and they sound like yung chomsky. I wonder if it is intentional, like a non-binary identity so to speak