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Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Tvåldtäktzohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Tvåldtäktzohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.
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 No.11547

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>>11546
>Y tho?
fun surprise
but ah okay, was just curious on what you didn't like about them, valid reasons. I like their designs and abilities, no real opinion on their personalities though haven't really seen that much
>I thought you meant in that it should be in the style of DBZ/DBS as a sequel series that "ups the ante"
The funny part is is that it could have worked until aliens were introduced, then even revealed that more aliens exist and they go from planet to planet, like wtf. Now everything before that moment and after feels terrible. If kaguya never happened it could have been feasible.

 No.11548

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>>11547
Kaguya had never been an alien ironically, she had been a demigoddess that ate a forbidden fruit and gained power to end the constant fighting of her time. Even assuming the alien subplot actually continued it'd be far better if Naruto and Sasuke kicked Momoshiki's ass and then decided that the threat is too great and started hunting the Ootsusuki - traveling dimensions together to pursue them and leaving Boruto and the others to handle keeping the peace at home - thus Kara could be a legitimate threat that doesn't get sensed by the literal gods of Konoha.
>I like their designs and abilities
They're too overpowered and it doesn't make sense in the chakra setting. They're characters that'd make more sense in Hunter x Hunter or Boku no Hero, rather than Naruto.
Also personally I detest Ikemoto'd art style for a multitude of reasons. Even Boruto's design'd be better if they at least used the original Naruto art style instead of this polished stuff.

Honestly there are moments in Boruto that actually kept me aboard, but it just keeps castrating my interest just as I think shit is improving. Kawaki and Naruto's dynamic is so good and interactions like your pic are interesting, but it gets shunted aside for idiotic plotlines that make me facepalm. The Baryon Mode (and lead up to its use) is retarded but the anime fight at least is good, the line of "true resolve" is truly among the best Naruto has had, but the uyghling feeling in my mind that "this could have been GREAT" honestly just hurts.

>fun surprise

oh ok, sorry, too many people post stupid spoilered shock pics, so I'm paranoid

 No.11551

>>11548
>They're too overpowered and it doesn't make sense in the chakra setting. They're characters that'd make more sense in Hunter x Hunter or Boku no Hero, rather than Naruto.
>Also personally I detest Ikemoto'd art style for a multitude of reasons. Even Boruto's design'd be better if they at least used the original Naruto art style instead of this polished stuff.

shit makes zero sense and everything has been tossed, i agree, but that shit is fire i can't lie. Code, Eida and her brother are only the really ones i like. I don't like his art style for naruto but i've warmed up to his style in general after initially not liking it. Most of the recent chars look cool and what it looks like on the rest of the naruto cast is kinda nice, it's a different vibe.

>Honestly there are moments in Boruto that actually kept me aboard, but it just keeps castrating my interest just as I think shit is improving. Kawaki and Naruto's dynamic is so good and interactions like your pic are interesting, but it gets shunted aside for idiotic plotlines that make me facepalm. The Baryon Mode (and lead up to its use) is retarded but the anime fight at least is good, the line of "true resolve" is truly among the best Naruto has had, but the uyghling feeling in my mind that "this could have been GREAT" honestly just hurts.


agree. what's one of the really annoying aspects to me is there's a ton of interesting things that are going on but in the context of the previous world of Naruto it just does not mesh, but i still like what's going on. If this was a standalone, same naruto universe but a different reality(?) it would be better, though the rehash of akatsuki is kinda lame for a first villain. for now we have to settle with a manga that has peaked at a 6/10 rating(so far)

>Kaguya had never been an alien ironically, she had been a demigoddess that ate a forbidden fruit and gained power to end the constant fighting of her time. Even assuming the alien subplot actually continued it'd be far better if Naruto and Sasuke kicked Momoshiki's ass and then decided that the threat is too great and started hunting the Ootsusuki - traveling dimensions together to pursue them and leaving Boruto and the others to handle keeping the peace at home - thus Kara could be a legitimate threat that doesn't get sensed by the literal gods of Konoha.


Honestly didn't know this. Everything post Narutos entry into the War is one big blur for me, stuff just gets. At first she's this, then she's actually this etc etc, really annoying.

 No.12007

Embedding error.
The Naruto vs Ichigo animation by SethTheProgrammer is looking pretty hype, I hope it matches the previews.

 No.12038

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Dont even like / pay much attention to the story of Boruto (Though to be fair i did/don't really care/like the story of part 2 either)
Got good bois though.

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 No.12040

File: 1639738494472.gif (2.96 MB, 500x574, BorutoMitsuki1.gif)

>>12039
Why?
Dont like 'Boi's-In-Luhvu'?

 No.12041

>>12040
Not if they're that young.

 No.12043

File: 1639753624739.jpeg (1014.09 KB, 842x5310, Sumire x Boruto.jpeg)

>>12038
I find the side characters much more interesting compared to the main cast, the fillers might have inane moment but conceptually are more unique and explore better things.

>>12040
TBF Mitsuki's odd obsession and Orochimaru being that one that set him on that course is kind of wack, not to mention absolutely sidelined also Sumire is best love interest for Boruto

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 No.12046

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 No.12084

>>1386
ur wrong.
naruto is maoist third worldist all the way up yo the conclusion of the Pain invasion arc.
after that it devolves into mystical muh cycles and oh btw here's god kill her spirituality nonsense.

 No.12087

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>Chapter 65
>Cover is toad-sage naruto and for some reaosn his mouth is covered for most of the illustrations he's in
>Toad-sage naruto BARELy features in it
>momoshiki does that timestop shit and takes over Boruto- the pills do jack shit
>Start spamming Massive Rasengans at Code at random
>uses bullshit Rasen-Dan (bullet) because suddenly Momoshiki, the character specifically personifying unoriginality and not working for his power created a jutsu that Naruto is apparently too stupid to make in the decades since learning the rasengan
>Eida tells Code to retreat because it's too much for him
>The same Code supposedly as strong as Jigen, going against Boroshiki that is feat-wise at best matching Naruto in the Pain Arc, but somehow is apparently a greater threat than Kurama-sage cloak Naruto and got to sasugay's rinnegone and all that shebang
>But shikamaru manages to get the jump on Boringshiki and toad-sage naruto manages to outspeed Boroshiki's reaction time then begins totally jobbing again. The same toad sage mode that let Kashin Koji BEAT Jigen
>Naruto doesn't even try to use a clone to ambush Code at the same time or make Boruto go unconscious, nah fuck that it's jobber time!
It's truly amazing just how horrible this manga is that anime filler arcs are superior by far. Kawaki is the only part of the manga that is actually any fun to me and even then it could have been done so much better. I'm starting to really LOATHE the manga, it's not even at 70 Chapters and it's inferior to its OWN anime fillers, let alone Naruto anime fillers. Every fight and scene of an OG character in this manga, and the fact that it's so agonizingly slow is like a spit in the face of every person that enjoyed and got something meaningful out of Naruto. God fucking damn it.

Also in this latest chapter Momoshiki mentions "Kara dregs" and knowing Code had the fruit. Fucking how? How would Momoshiki know of Kara when in his first appearance he intended to destroy the Earth, ssucking it dry using his tree with NO Knowledge of the fact Isshiki was there or had an organization under him. Why the fuck would Momo have ANY info on Kara much less Isshiki? Or rather Y didn't he have it at the start?
Seeing Boruto's memories doesn't excuse it since he states things that Boruto does not have any knowledge of (Code's fake Karma had been talked about to Kawaki and Naruto, not Boruto as far as I recall. And he DID have knowledge of Kaguya). The only real answer I can think of is Retroactive Story Telling - Isshiki and that Kara mess didn't exist originally in the story (neither had been the Karma seal as demonstrated by Boruto the Movie) so clearly after Momoshiki got trounced thy needed Karma as a method to create a reason for a power-up on Boruto and thy just tarted speculating and ruminating like cows chewing cud until they decided to just rip off a meme-version of Akatsuki - seriously, the "Otsutsuki resurrected in the body of the secret organizations leader" and more is just a speedrun retelling of Akatsuki's path to the 4th War, and the resurrection of Kaguya. Logically after mentioning Kaguya in the beginning of the anime, Momoshiki should also be confused as to the location of Isshiki, Hell, given that Kaguya had been meant to be the sacrifice to Isshiki, his first query ought to have bee about Isshiki and confusion on Kaguya's mention.

I just wish the left it at the movie TBH, because it hurts me to see good idea in Boruto get started, only to be pissed on over and over and over again.

 No.12092

>>12087
If you hate it so much why are you wasting your time on it? You know it's not even canon right?

 No.12152

>>12046
still ew

i want big men, not bitch ass children

 No.12176

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The people in the Naruto universe carry weapons and technology that would allow 1940s-1970s era methods of combat yet fight as if they’re still in the copper age. This fact bugs me.

It’s been revealed on multiple occasions that civilians in the Naruto franchise have access to steam power, explosives, mechanical devices and electricity. This ultimately means weapons like guns(which can be seen in one panel of shippuden), tanks, jets, artillery, warships, mass production of weapons and food(this is especially important because more food means more potential fighters and workers), heavy bombs etc can all exist and this ultimately means that if any society in Naruto ever used these weapons in combat a small army equipped with these weapons could potentially take down a hokage but just don’t which creates massive plot holes that only get more aggravating in the show to think about considering how drawn out most fights are, not to mention the chronically low amount of troops used in most armed conflicts…

This doesn’t even get into other shit that’s blatantly shown in Naruto and Naruto shippuden like the fact that the main characters have access to radio based mics but can’t produce satellites or radios that can dox a targets location wait shit no they do have that and birds that can do the same and rarely use them, why street lights are seen all over the hidden leaf village dating as far back as the first episode of Naruto but no one can make LEDs or circuit screens, why everyone dresses in the most overly revealing clothing imaginable etc etc

I’m not even gonna get into the ninjutsu shit because that gives me a different kind of headache

 No.12224

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>>12176
>fight as if they’re still in the copper age
LMAO no.
Also
chakra like magic makes technological advances in weaponry rather less likely and the verse itself is only some centuries old, since Kaguya's time, so the anachronistic advancements are more plausible.
>guns
Ninja move so fast in verse that getting a bead on them is pretty much impossible, and the guns are usually flintlocks, something that is nearly a millenia old IRL. Radios are old as shit too and telegraphs existed before those.
>radios that can dox a targets location
Radios do not function like that, certainly not those kinds of radios.
>tanks, jets, artillery, warships
All pointless given ninjutsu and ninjas that can punch, lift and kick with several tons of force as children. Aircraft aren't really a priority in a non-industrialized society based on national mercantile armies using devastating life-energy-based magic, any tank and artillery that in't immediately on the level of the past couple decades IRL are fodder.
Also they do have trains as far back as before Shippuden and airships and trucks too, for civilians and mostly rich ones.
>mass production of weapons and food
They do, kunai and shuriken and basic katanas are mass-produced in Narutoverse and only specific special weapons are custom made. Same for food.
>a small army equipped with these weapons could potentially take down a hokage
Ah yes, because bomber planes and tanks are great anti-personell weapons against people that move so fast that they can disappear in a blink of an eye and move underground like fish in a stream. So no, no plotholes, it's logically consistent. Industrial Revolutions advancements especially in the military had importance because people constantly improved their ability to kill by supplementing them with tools and machines or increasing complexity and effectiveness. If there is a magic system, it makes the development of such arms unlikely as the predominant military can just improve jutsu using chakra, that can do almost anything, including raising nearly unstoppable facismiles of the dead that have nearly the full ability of their living lives. That's not even mentioning sealing jutsu, elemental ninjutsu and genjutsu.
>no one can make LEDs or circuit screens
They have small laptops by the time of the 4th war as a limited military resource, and LEDs took over a century to even be created (let alone mass produced) IRL after the creation of incandescent light bulbs.
>why everyone dresses in the most overly revealing clothing imaginable
The fuck are you talking about? Most of the cast has clothing covering the majority of their bodies and only a few have revealing clothes.
>heavy bombs etc can all exist
Explosive tags and their variations make this pointless, not even mentioning

TL;DR: such tech may exist, but does not develop because unlike the real world, it has a very widespread ability - chakra - that can do all that such technology can do and more. It works as that they only have things seen as necessary (lights, fridge, steampowered train and ships, old school photography, etc.) and can actually be more easily created due to elemental manipulation (lightning jutsu -> study of electricity).

>>12092
I can't help taking a look at it on occasion, it's like a train derailing, so I can't help bursting out on occasion.
>not canon
I wish

 No.12577

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Boruto 66's Kawaki killing Boruto is literally the same shit as pre-Shippuden Fanfiction that had Orochimaru in Sasuke's body being restrained by sauce for a moment to let older Naruto kill him to save everyone, except at least those fanfics this made sense given the incompletion of Naruto, and thus its themes and Naruto's story in itself. Hell it's even emulated in hamfisted style by having Boruto say "do it bro" like a fucking parody. I'm not even going into this making the entire plot of Naruto moot (although the previous Boruto chapters already did this, so more like it made it moot cubed).

On a side topic Boruto has been going 6 (SIX) years and only has 66 chapters, 1 per month, and having horrendous artstyle, paneling and more. Compare this to Naruto Part 1, in 5 years it had 244 chapters (238, excluding Kakashi's story), a chapter every week, all as it retained quality in paneling and artstyle. Even if Boruto mangaka only did 8 hours for 5 days per week, for professionals this ought to be at least 10-15 pages at least and usually 20 or more, and that's just as a small group, as Kishi started out. Ike-pedo, has much larger resources and far more time yet produces inferior products.

PS this is a spoiler post but the Boruto manga trashfire deserves it.

 No.12583

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>>12577
>killing Boruto
Thank god.

 No.12596

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>>12583
That'd be great… except Chapter 1 Spoils it as being some kind of bait n' switch.

 No.13925

>>12007
Anyone have updates on this? All I can find on it is retarded Tiktok edits.

 No.13962

Embedding error.
Internet Historian just dropped one… on the Area 51 "Raid". Naruto references are in the entire video, but the final 10 minutes are the treasure. Enjoy.

 No.13981

Analysis of Boruto Chapter 33 - not the best but an interesting opinion. I still think that Delta shouldn't have been able to do anything against Boruto and Kawaki and Hima, so Kawaki's 'sacrifice' shouldn't have happened at all. Instead they should have had at least Himawari, run closer out of concern for her dad (feigning injury to bait Delta) to justify that plot-point. This is of course dismissing Delta being able to keep up with Naruto at all.
https://archive.ph/AJsT5
Also given the latest chapter (68), makes me wish for pic related's tsundere dynamic more.

 No.14729

Given the stupid and still ongoing debate - Naruto in Boruto (prior to the Kurama kill-off) had Six Paths Sage Mode and so the claim of nerfs of his character's abilities are absolutely true.
https://archive.ph/vsIvK

 No.14849

can i just say that i've recently started reading boruto as opposed to watching the anime and i want to kill whoever fucking designed saradas outfit. really? high heels? on a 12 year old? who would be comfortable fighting in this? anime design was much better in my opinion.

 No.14854

>>14849
is the manga worth reading?

 No.14869

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>>14854
No, not really unless you like to ironically laugh at shitty action, nerfs and poor story-telling, hell Boruto anime fillers have better story, ninja skills and charm than the actual canon plot. See above rant posts on various episodes and general dislike.

>>14849
There's a reason Ikemoto is called 'Pedomoto' by the fandom. He literally makes Hinata into a flat midget… y'know the big titted naruto vaifu that was barely shorter than Naruto? pic rel.

 No.14875

>>14849
All this time and Kishimoto still can't design women

 No.14884

>>14869
i was wondering why that hinata design made me so uncomfortable, you're totally right.
the very obvious pedo pandering is disgusting.

 No.14885

>>14875
nor can he write them. japanese men (from personal experience) see women as objects and plot devices though so its not surprising. they think women are aliens that they'll never be able to understand when in reality women are human and they should just be written like normal people, maybe with different challenges to overcome.

 No.14886

>>14885
>in reality women are human
prove it

 No.14891

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>>14875
Kishimoto isn't doing the art for Boruto you retards, he only came back as an advisor to the manga over 50 chapters after it began and has no influence on art direction. This is all on Ikemoto.
>>14884
Yeah. Note that in Naruto and even Shippuden Hinata didn't have fanservice much, she dressed in such thick clothes that not a lot of open boobage and skin is visible. Pic rel.

>>14886
Ok /pol/
>>14885
You need to re-read the manga. Naruto's female characters are not the strongest but they're hardly "non-understandable aliens". Hell a lot of the story is focused on how little sex matters in regards to people as humans, malice and happiness, seeking revenge or impulsive emotions are present in male and female characters alike, that's part of the theme of Naruto.

>they should just be written like normal people

 No.14924

>>14891
i'm mostly talking about sakura who got written terribly

 No.14928

>>12041
Yet, people go wild for loli lesbianism.

 No.14938

Borutos horribleness aside, what are everyone's favorite characters that were introduced in Boruto? doesnt matter if its the manga or the anime, I personally prefer the anime though.

I'll go first:
I love Mitsuki, his design is simple but striking and he's very cute. His character brings up good moral dilemmas about science, how far an experiment should go, and issues of individuality. He always makes me laugh and in general just makes me smile :)
I also like Inojin. He's the good mix of Sai's social ineptness and Ino's sass which makes him funny, although not super likeable, but he's also cute when he gets flustered. His design is also appealing just like Mitsuki's.

pic rel

 No.14939

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>>14938
forgot to add the pics

 No.14945

>>14924
She's not the worst TBH, certainly not as bad as a lot of other female characters in Shonen, and has her moments, but yes she has plenty of issues.

>>14938
The side characters, especially the teams that are given little coverage like Iwabee or Sumire, Inojin included. Mitsuki started off intriguing but kept having his potential nixxed.

 No.15181

also what happened to inojin's english VA? was watching and it suddenly changed. i wanna know what happened but i cant find anything about it online.

 No.15547

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was he an author self insert?

 No.15548

No, that's Jiraiya

 No.16691




rat sings

 No.16695

>>15547
No, it's a poor meme based on a Western understanding of the anime/manga.

>>16691
>Vtuber shit
bleh

 No.16699

>>16691
I want to breed the rat

 No.16993

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does anyone have scans of the sasuke restuden novel that came out a bit ago? someones already uploaded a shitty bot translation online so i know the raws are floating around somewhere. i just wanna read it in japanese before the english translation comes out in november.

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 No.16995

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>>16994
oh lol didnt know its been out since 2019.
and thank you but i dont want english translations, i want to read the japanese. thats why its been hard to find for me. i would look for it on the japanese side of the internet but i dont have nearly as much experience knowing what to trust over there

 No.16996

>>16995
>i want to read the japanese
You can read that? Good for you m8.

Another more complete English version: https://archive.org/details/sasukeretsuden/mode/2up

Japanese version: I'll look around and see if I can dig something up. Peace

retsuden is pretty wack tho TBH

 No.17008

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>>16996
yeeee i find that the translations for the novels have mistakes and things that are unclear, so i'd rather just read the original sincce i can. and yes im expecting it to be pretty… out there LOL

thanks comrade

 No.17026

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IDK why but pic rel from the boruto anime posters gives me heavy doujin vibes, y'know the ones that have NTR or fat bastard or pedo content or some other shit. I think it might be because they cut off Naruto's face and only left the bottom half, like the covers of many such, aforementioned doujins do.

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