No.290[Last 50 Posts]
So I'm not an experienced game developer or anything, but I figured we should have a general dedicated to this sort of thing, especially since I'm interested to hear peoples' ideas on lefty-orientated videogames that would be cool for me to make.
I've been using Blender since I was 11 or 12 years old (I'm 20 now) so I'm pretty much at a level now where I can model any game asset I want. I'm also in school for Computer Engineering, and have been a hobby programmer since I was around 14 working with Python, C, and GLSL shaders, so I can script pretty much anything as well. I would say my main weaknesses when approaching a task like this are Sculpting, Spriting, and Painting, so to any drawfags/artfags with skills: I invite you to contribute on whatever projects we end up embarking on.
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all I need are good ideas to get the ball rolling with this thread
No.292
One thing I've always wanted to play, and imagine would sell pretty well, is a combination of the original Crisis in the Kremlin and Hidden Agenda to make a better version of Tropico.
The managing of populations and their needs from HA
The potential false information from the military/KGB from CITK, which would be expanded into army, navy, air force and intelligence services, and maybe the police
The ideological questions from HA and CITK, which affect gameplay and guide events (and also affect the other two points)
There are probably parts from both I'm missing that are also good as I haven't played either in a long time.
So for a typical round, you'd assemble your cabinet and it works in a similar way to how it works in HA, locking off and enabling choices and options and upsetting and pleasing various factions. Then you'd focus on your economy and trying to keep it afloat while appeasing military factions and the population, and you'd have to keep either the USSR or NATO or both sweet.
You should play a few games of Hidden Agenda, until you win at least, since it's just an old DOS game but is more interesting than most political games made nowadays, and should probably be given modernization treatment. Someone tried to do it but it wasn't very good, it was called Rogue State.
No.293
I have dozens of ideas for video games but they're mostly all far too advanced for my skill level, besides they probably wouldn't be any good anyway
Hell I've got two ideas for /leftypol/ JRPGs even
No.294
>>292OP here. I haven't personally played any of these games, so I'll have to do some investigation to picture exactly what you're describing, but I'll look into it
No.295
>>293>leftypol/ JRPGstell me more
No.296
I am /agdg/ gang but I don't think I'd be able to contribute directly as much of my time is spent on my own project.
I will, however leave this link here for those not faint of heart. This video series helped me evolve from "amoeba-brain, college-brainwashed codemonkey" into "respectably self sufficient programmer who can make games on his own".
These are long, in-depth coding sessions that touch on every general aspect of gamedev because the dev uses NO LIBRARIES, making everything from scratch instead. It's the ultimate gamedev resource, but you actually have to watch the whole thing sequentially to get anything out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/user/handmadeheroarchive/videosInterested in seeing what the bunker can cook up by way of gamedev though, hope to see some cool stuff eventually.
No.297
>>296Soooo… watch every handmade hero devstream?
I'm not clear on it since you just linked the channel.
Unless I'm missing just a regular tutorial series they got or whatever.
No.298
>>295Well first when I say JRPG I mean something like Final Fantasy I, basically just a straightforward game you can make with RPGMaker. Also while I said I have two ideas it's more like one idea that split into two smaller ideas because there were some conflicts thematically.
It was kind of a product of its time in that my idea dealt with /pol/ using meme magic to try to turn Trump into a dark god of chaos, leaving /leftypol/ to try to gather up 7 or 8 mystical medallions to try and stop him.
I also had plans for references to posters who are no longer with us. Thinking about it now it might just be cringe, but if it interests anyone at all I can continue further with my ideas.
No.300
>>299Well what the hell, why not?
I was unsure whether the different player characters should represent simply differing ideologies (such as ML, anarchists, Stirnerites. leftcoms, etc.) or if they should represent different subsections of the proletariat (such as redneck miners, Mexican farmhands, etc.) To be honest I suppose a mix would be best.
Anyway the different medallions you would have to collect represent different "ideas" associated with leftism, so you'd have the Black Cat of Anarchy, The Red Star of Socialism, stuff like that. Each medal would be held by a group who has basically corrupted its powers for their own gain, so for example the Black Cat of Anarchy would be held by lolberts and ancaps. So to get the different medallions you'd essentially have to fight through a dungeon, defeat a boss, and then you'd get the medal. There'd also be some side quests to go on
and that you would need to complete in order to get the best ending that would feature such exciting enemies as the KKK and esoteric Nazis, among others.
However I've come to realize that making /pol/ out to be such a dangerous threat to the world was fucking stupid and gave them way more importance than they deserved. If I did continue with this idea I think I'd make the main villain be Nick Land trying to wake up Cthulhu or some Lovecraftian shit like that.
Sorry for shitting up the thread comrades. No.302
>>294Did you get round to playing it/them?
No.303
While I don't have the time, skill and determination, one idea for a game that I really like is to do a Dwarf Fottress like autism project that would basically be Frostpunk but far far more complex and in depth.
To make a twist on the Frostpunk idea it would be set in the 1920-1930, and instead of a steampunk aesthetic have a sort of brutal Stalinist era 5-year plan new industrial cities feel. Also you'd have different faction who would be the ones making the refuge sites. Soviets, Brits, French, Americans and maybe Weimar Germany, all starting with differing societal laws, technologies and weaknesses, perhaps even completely different plans for survival. The tech would not stay stagnant, instead going from irl stuff to things like transistor computers and atomic power. Instead of graphics it would probably have visual backgrounds, while main gameplay would be through speeadsheets, perhaps similar to CitK, but not as obscure as the space Aurora4x game. The whole complexity would come from a need to plan the entire economy, including basic stuff like clothes, tools and so on, which are abstracted away in Frostpunk. In many ways the whole charm at least for me would be that the game would serve as a microscopic version of in-kind economic planning, as you would have to maintain your refuge of a thousand or so people. Hell, you could make later down techs basically be advances in automated planning, which would let the player be replaced by an AI on more and more tasks, letting one to properlly manage more, thus expand more. Stop just scrapping by and surviving and start thriving, establish contact with other refuge points, reestablish society, fuck it, end game goal - build a rocket and orbit the Earth, then develop special chemicals allowing you to slowly thaw the Earth.
No.304
I have never played an RPG in my life, but whatever. Here's my rough idea for the shitty fighting system of an RPG with an imageboard theme: Your party is seen from the side forming a line facing right (likewise with the enemies, but facing left). The one in the front attacks while crouching, the second one attacks while standing, people in the back recover. Most attacks are projectiles. Attacking happens automatically and everybody goes through animations following a rhythm. All the player does is switching positions. Under each character you see health displayed as a single digit. When you have two or more repeating digits at the end of the line that faces the enemy, your party does a more powerful attack.
The line with the friends and the line with the foes are both on the same axis, but the battle screen has actual depth to it that can matter during switching operations. The switch is a circular motion, with each of the two characters that switches positions doing half of the circle. During this, they are still shooting according to their rhythm. The enemy line also does these circular movements. Switching characters on one side can actually hit switching characters on the other side if you time it well.
No.305
>>290How do I into gamedev?
I took programming in highschool, but never really liked it; it was make a calculator shit with no actual critical thinking being taught.
That was my experience with one college class too.
I have a copy of SICP, but never touched it out of ADD lack of commitment I suppose.
I hear it's easier to dev than ever with modern engines though cause they do so much for you, so is that true?
How much would I really need to know before trying to jump in and make something with a modern gamedev kit/engine?
No.306
>>305>I hear it's easier to dev than ever with modern engines though cause they do so much for you, so is that true?Pretty much. Unity and GM Studio in particular are absurdly easy to use and have endless documentation, tutorials and even "sub"-engines on the internet for whatever you want to do on them.
>How much would I really need to know before trying to jump in and make something with a modern gamedev kit/engine?Only the most
extremely basic barebones fundamentals of programming like variables are good enough to use GM Studio.
No.307
>>306Alright; thanks for the advice anon.
No.308
>>306Oh also;
are FOSS engines only better for people who know what they're doing?
Like Godot won't give me too hard of a time despite being inexperienced?
I've heard the engine has lackluster performance with 2d games as well, which is what I'd wanna make, so do you got any experience with that?
I may be a bit of a brainlet on this matter, but I can certainly do more than just variables.
No.309
>>297>Soooo… watch every handmade hero devstream<Yes
I'm still 50 episodes behind but yes, I've watched 500+ episodes, and I do mean watched with full concentration, not on the side. To be fair I started when it was brand new so I didn't have to "take the dive" knowing there is already 1000 hours of footage to consume.
The good news is you will probably start making gains very, very soon in the series. For example, very early on Casey introduces a way of "managing" memory than completely changed how I think about the problem and gave me the power to reason about it on my own. If you want a shallow tutorial series there are literally hundreds of those on YT alone, but I don't recommend those as someone who consumed such content for years without improving.
At some point you literally stop looking shit up on the internet because you have the tools and methodology to solve problems yourself. It feels pretty fucking rad. For example, Handmande Hero does not cover networking, but I managed to get a prototype off the ground myself using his approach to programming. This has now become my main project.
And I'm still just a baby with so much more to learn. The better you get at it, the more fun it becomes. Hopefully by the time I'm Casey's age I'll be a lvl 250 demigod technomancer who makes worlds for fun. The only living person I'm aware of that has this level of skill and productivity is Eskil Steenberg.
>>308If you're just getting your feet wet, sure you can go with Unity or Godot. But you will ultimately be constrained by someone else's decisions, even in the case of Godot, and you will spend countless hours reading documentation instead of actually working on your game. But hey, what do I know, I've never shipped a full game while people who can barely program push out massively successful games on Unity regularly.
No.310
>>302don't really have any time for videogames. I'll look into it after my final exams for this semester are over
No.312
>>311just clicked on the itch.io jams link and the first thing I see a GWU jam. never done any of these before but 3 months sounds like a reasonable time limit for a first time.
No.1605
From time to time I write down ideas for video games I'd like to make if my life were more in order. One of them would be a giant evolution game.
You'd start off as a cell billions of years ago, and then be able to evolve into hundreds of kinds of animals as the era would inch toward present day. Your goal would be to survive, reproduce, and to become the dominant lifeform on the planet. Obstacles would include predators, and the fact that the world around you would constantly change with each era. There would be tectonic drift, competition, climate changes, viruses, etc. You would be able to evolve tolerance for coldness or heat, but it would always come at the cost of some other trait.
The whole idea came to me when I went to a tropical island and got interested in all the bizarre animals and biology I had never seen before. I went on a Wikipedia binge and ended up devouring information about all kinds of extinct animals from past eras, while wondering if I had missed my calling and should've become a biologist.
Realistically, I don't have the will power to make this game, but I think it'd be very original. I haven't seen anyone try to create a truly epic game about evolution with continental drift, or the other variables that you read about on Wikipedia. You just get games like Spore, or little educational games like Richard Dawkin's Biomorphs.
No.1614
>>1605look up spore
also no man's sky isn't a realistic evolution simulator but I still like the feeling when go into a new planet and see what the algorithm has generated
No.1631
>>1605I'm still pissed that EA butchered Spore and then killed off Maxis, dooming any hope for a better sequel.
No.1722
>>1705https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/classes/class_navigation.htmlall you need is a mesh, there's a simple function that returns a vector leading to the proper path… it's not that hard to setup
No.1726
>>303So I've been thinking on and off about this every once in a while. If I wanted to create a game like that, how would I even start learning the basics for designing it? Seems to me most of the games that are attempted to be created by amateurs are 2D adventure games and similar. However my vision would more be Dwarf Fortress, but with any non-spreadsheet gameplay being removed (I guess maybe sort of like the Liberal Crime Squad spinoff game from what I saw of it after googling), only being replaced with changing .png backgrounds that represent your situation.
I'd imagine the best way to go around and create something like what I have in mind is to start small. So, what kind of tutorials or guides should I watch if I wanted to create a simulation of 20ish people village community with the following features:
>Food growing and processing>Tool creation>Resource extraction>Simulated housing spots>New building construction>Necessary items such as clothes / furniture and their production>All done by a spreadsheet system operating in turn-based manner>Deaths from unfulfilled needs>Item assignment to individual villagers>JobsIf I started with something like that, I'd imagine over time I would be able to slowly expand it to the vision I previously described, and introducing more complex stuff like:
>Heat system>Social interactions>More and more goods production, different resources, tools, jobs>More intricate production chains>Transforming the village setting into my vision by renaming all the things>Introducing backgrounds>Random events>StorySo, any tips how I should start this? Bear in mind that I don't have any game dev experience, only that I am somewhat experienced in C++ and will (hopefully) do programming studies next year. Also, I do have to ask, is this idea feasible to realize?
No.1734
>>1726I'm not sure I get it, is there any gameplay? Or is it just a simulation?
Then there are several things here that are highly complex and do not have an ready-made answer, "social interactions", story"? Do you want to procedurally generate that? Good fucking luck.
In any case when it comes to tools there's basically two ways : more programming or less programming.
If you want to learn/practice programming you have a million choices, the most common/industry standard is C++, there's also C#, Lua… I'm not an expert myself. Then for each of these you have libraries/engines that already include a ton of pre-made things to ease up the process, Ogre for C++, Monogame for C#, Love2D for Lua, but also a ton more. Generally an "engine" has more features than a library, in that it uses libraries itself, but the line is kinda blurry.
If you want a little less programming, you can use game engines : the 3 big ones are Unity, Unreal, and Godot. They're all free to a certain extent, until you make X amount of money, but you're probably good for a long while. The last version of Unreal is extremely lenient with that, you keep all your money (if you get to that point) under 1 MIRRION DOLLARS. As for Godot it's completely free and open-source. There's also Game Maker, not free but affordable, but it's been stagnating recently.
All that said you will always have some manual programming to do. And really it's always a better choice to stick to that.
Keep in mind for all the examples I mentioned there are a million others.
In the end what you have to do is kind of cluelessly look for info on all of these possibilities, search for comparisons, ask around if they're fit for your idea, finally decide on something, and then google a million tutorials for it and follow them. There is no single answer.
There's also Tiled, which may be useful, but it's a tilemap creator, not a game engine. It also has its issues, which I personally have found annoying a number of times, but huh, it exists. And for 2D drawing you have Krita, free and open-source too, tiny bugs but it's really good (avoid Photoshop and Adobe products at all cost).
Also a sad thing to note is that there seems to be no engine that is really great for 2D. They're all focused on 3D to be cool and shiny. Even Unity, who is fairly highly praised and has been around for years, still have issues here and there in 2D that haven't been fixed.
Second final note : it doesn't really matter what you choose in the end. Apart from AAAAAA GRAFIXS, you can realistically pretty much do anything you want with any tool you want. Especially if you're ready and skilled enough to tackle programming the more complex stuff by yourself.
The only limits are time and motivation. Good luck!
No.1736
>>1734>I'm not sure I get it, is there any gameplay? Or is it just a simulation?Well the idea would be that the gameplay side is you being a sort of planned economy manager, as well as to a smaller extent a "tard wrangler" for your pops who would do stupid shit (eg a pop with a certain negative trait has a percent chance with each turn to damage certain item, get in a fight (reduce health of another pop and their opinion), get a random mood drop, or a need to consume more certain goods), all while trying to survive harsh conditions. Social interactions wouldn't be anything more than randomly occurring interactions that might trigger some sort of info bubble to tell a bit of story on turn start while giving positive negative effects on mood or productivity. I am struggling to find a comparison, but I think the best way I can describe what I would want is something like the pop system from the newer Civ games, however with more complexity. I tried to mock up a quick vision of general working of the economy in pic related.
The main reason why I don't really know where to start is this. First, at least from the first look, I don't believe that at least the skeleton of this project is overly complex. However, from what I've seen, most indie game dev stuff deals with making rpg's or action-ey games. However this would be more of a manager sim, which would require, at least to my understanding, different things than the previously mentioned genres. For instance, at least for a skeleton version, I need zero graphics of any sort, only a system that changes its values based on player input, as well as naturally over time in an automated process of "pops" fulfilling their needs by reducing the existing values. So if I wanted to make an rpg or an action game, I am sure I'd find easy to follow tutorials, and almost tailor made programs to help, however I don't have a clue where should I start with getting the experience to make something like what I envision.
No.1766
>>1736Fundamentally all programming is the same. If you watch the first few introduction videos to any language, you'll see they're all about the same things (variables, if, for loops, classes if they have them…). And with a decent engine you can always do anything you want, you're not restricted to a genre (except with things like RPGMaker or RenPy). It's just that they're slightly different in various ways. There are limitations, but none is absolute. It's just about you programming around it.
I don't know if you're already aware of that or not, but the thing is that everything is ultimately a number. A computer doesn't understand "need" or "want". So say if you have a notion of education in the game, what that's gonna translate to simply an "education" stat for each person, going from I don't know, 1 to 100, or 500, or whatever. And what that means is that they'll be able to do some things, or maybe enter the academy, only if the number is above a certain value. Or to make things more complex, there could be different numbers based on disciplines. Like a physicist might have 95 in physics, but 30 in litterature.
And if you want "geniuses", maybe instead of gaining 10 points from undergoing a class, they'll gain 25 or something.
Programming is just putting dumb numbers on everything. Maybe that breaks the "mystique" you could find in things in real life, but that's how it works.
Anything that seems like more advanced magic, like those AIs constructing realistic people faces, or simulating fluids, etc… is way, way beyond the concerns of an amateur gamedev. You can't hope to find the magic tutorial that explains how to do that and put it in your game.
Some of this may be obvious to you, I don't know, I'm just trying to explain some things cause I don't know where you're at.
No.1773
>>1734>Also a sad thing to note is that there seems to be no engine that is really great for 2D. They're all focused on 3D to be cool and shinygodot is way more popular for it's 2d features tho and gets a lot of shit for the 3d elements…
No.1774
>>1736if the only thing you're confused about not knowing where to start with your game, you could start from anywhere, I'de say start with that system of heating that's required to survive and just try building everything from there.
No.2149
>>1736Ok, so I was recently thinking back on this again, and I do believe I would likely have enough programming experience to implement the things I've laid out in the image. However I guess the main thing that is confusing me is how do I, well, create a game. I've only created console applications previously, and while I imagine I could create a text-based game only using keyboard interactions, that is not what I would want the game to look. So how do I transfer all the information that I have in my program under the different variables into something that could be represented with graphics on screen, and how exactly do I make mouse clicks into a readable input from the player? So for instance how do I handle the end turn button? Seems like an obvious first thing to learn, especially if I am making a turn-based game. So obviously end turn will be a void function that alters all the variables I have in certain ways. If I was doing a console app, all I need would be to create a logical function that compares if player input text correlates with my chosen text that should initiate end turn. However since this isn't a console app, first, I need for the end turn button to be somehow presented on the screen, and also have it be so that a mouse click when over the specific area where the button is initiates the EndTurn() function (I have no clue how to do that). So, where do I start to learn to do what I just described. I'd imagine the information that I learn while finding out how to create the end turn button would also teach me enough to create the rest of the user interface which would display all the variables, as well as other functions such as ConstructBuilding() or whatever. Though I guess I'd also be interested how one would create different menu, lists etc. that would allow for the info to all be sorted separately.
No.2150
>>2149 (me)
I guess I do also have some technical questions as to how to write the code it self:
It should all be in one single c++ file, only interacting with data files to create a savegame, right?
I imagine I would end up using quite a few variables that would have to be shared each time I use a function. So is it better to stick them all as global? Or would that cause the program to slow down too much?
What type of compiler is best? Currently I am using codeblocks since that is what is most advanced and still allowed to use during exams, but I heard good things about visual studio, so should I use it instead?
And again going back to the previous post, if I am not creating a console application, what am I creating? I see whenever I create programs that there are tens of other types of programs, but I have no experience with those. DirectX sounds familiar, is that what I am supposed to use?
No.2152
>>2149use an engine, if you insist on using c++, there's probably some libraries out there for easy ui programming, search the web for them.
No.2411
>>2152As far as debug UI, this is all you need:
https://github.com/ocornut/imguiOnce you want to tackle in-game UI you are probably best off making your own immediate-mode implementation. I don't think I'll ever go to retained-mode UI programming again.
No.2747
I have this idea for an idle game where you progress mainly/solely when you're not playing it, thinking maybe it could be based off of The Game, or do you think that meme's too old?
No.3469
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_Struggle_(board_game)does anyone have the rules for this? I wonder if it can be converted into videogame form.
No.7658
>>7657Sounds like a nightmare from hell if you ask me.
Have you checked out Battle for Wesnoth? That's a good example of what you can expect to get with some massive effort. It's more of a game "ruleset + editor" than a game itself, as it encourages users to create and share campaigns. It's actually pretty deep and fun to play. Oh and the graphics… well how do you expect to get good art for free? Any artist worth their salt charges for their labor.
But if the intention is to make a single coherent experience for the user, which is what most games are, open source sounds like it is doomed before it starts.
Are you a programmer? Why this gotta be open source? Why not make a simple game yourself to start with?
No.7659
>>7658Are you implying Wesnoth has bad graphics, rather than excellent?
No.7660
>>7658>Have you checked out Battle for Wesnoth? No, haven't dug much on opens source games since I don't care for the games but the development
>Any artist worth their salt charges for their labor.That's what concerns me the most since artists do not have a culture of open source work, how to entice them to contribute will be the hardest thing
>But if the intention is to make a single coherent experience for the user, which is what most games are, open source sounds like it is doomed before it starts.That's what I want to do, bummer
>Are you a programmer?Not yet, I fell for the learn to code meme a couple of years back, I've struggled too much to learn C and the desire to make a game has stopped me form quitting
>Why this gotta be open source?Being pedantic about ideology and hoping other hands can help but either way it seems hopeless, open or closed source I'll end up doing it all alone
>Why not make a simple game yourself to start with?Yeah I know I have to start with something small once I can code for shit.
No.7663
>>7657what genre of game? with what mechanics?
No.7664
>>7663megaman clone/garden variety indie metroidvania
No.7666
>>7659It's funny because the unit sprites aren't really that bad. Everything else though… the environment assets, the UI… even the total lack of animations or visual feedback betrays the lo-fi, open source roots of the game.
No.7667
>>7666>total lack of animationsWhen was the last time you played the game exactly? All the units have idle animations and attacking animations. What else do they need exactly? Wesnoth has the graphics that a game of its type needs and they are well-drawn and look nice. It's actually an excellent example of maintaining a consistent overarching style across a large open source project with many contributors stretched across time.
No.7670
>>7664just use Godot. if you know python then just read the documentation to understand the GDscript API. it includes some beginner tutorials and has a pure 2D engine
No.7677
>>290I had the idea of an xcom like (TB tactics) set during russian civil war, with artillery train and self made armored trucks, with both a whole political/territory management aspect for getting missions & equipement, and some rpg elements for your forces.
Also works for a necromunda inspired game (you could even make a f2p multi game with this, people would pay a lot to improve their gang appearance, especially if they're getting attached to the characters thanks to the rpg part)
another idea was a fps/rpg, set in a not too distant future where climate, covid and encomy problems coalesce in a giant clusterfuck in europe with total breakdown of social order. We'd use a a big city like berlin or paris as the set, there would be various factions fighting there, and basically you'd be the usual super cyber-soldier roaming around there. The twist is despite your super powers, you just can't accomplish shit without the backing of a faction, and the biggest impact you can have is making/unmaking alliances and war between them, by giving them access to information about strategic resources or manipulating power relations inside the faction itself, just going in the battlefield alone fighting is fun but ultimately pointless (infinitte enemies and artillery fucking you up).
Prolly too big a scope. Its just that I like fps rpg and tried to shoehorn some of my ideas in it.
FPS/rpg alternative ; use a chivalry like melee combat and make it about being some robinhood
or go full magicka in fps form, I think its dynamic magic system really offer a lot of creativity
finally, literally not a game but gaming related, a lot of gamer could use a tool for displaying dynamic overlays on top their game, with strategic informations (maps with real time pinging/drawing). Basically the old "advanced tactical center" tool (which apprently has shutdown since) but with an overlay functionality
No.7705
>>296>because the dev uses NO LIBRARIES, making everything from scratch insteadngl, never did game dev, but as a java/web dev, that sounds fucking stupid
No.7709
>>7705It is if you plan on making an actual game.
It is less stupid if you just wanna learn how games are made. However I wouldn't go as far as using NO LIBRARIES, just no engines (in fact, that's what I did, and it worked out pretty well)
No.7710
>>7705Damn son, I made that post like 2+ years ago on bunkerchan lol. I actually didn't mean to imply that I don't use libraries btw, just that once could expect to learn about literally everything from watching HMH since Casey doesn't. I use quite a few libraries in my own projects and it would be absolute hell to develop without them.
No.7969
>>7968I think it's nice. "fair" only makes sense as a marketing tactic.
No.7970
>>7968You could obfuscate the code, but that pretty much goes against the spirit of open source.
No.7973
>>7968Lots of patreon projects use this model but it essentially boils down to donations, most people would just wait for the free version
No.7974
>>7969>>7973Yes, yes, nothing if fair under capitalism, the issue now is how to entice people to donate/subscribe for the latest version.
>>7973and deobfuscating it will be a chore later on.
I thought of just removing the code for the easter eggs and making the officially compiled version of the game different from the one people can compile from source but that's even more dishonest and an even harder job.
No.7975
>>7974Realistically nothing can stop people pirating your game if they really want to, you may as well just make all versions open source even if you do paywall them
No.9949
bumping this shit
No.9956
So relying on donations would be the best way to go? I mean, that's basically what many indie devs on itch.io do with the "pay what you want" model
No.11200
>>7975Bumping this! Hi from 4chan's /agdg/. I didn't know leftypol had a games board!
My dream game idea would be a JA2 1.13 remake with an Operation Gladio theme
cockshottCockshott No.11201
>>11200Sorry, didn't mean to quote.
cockshottCockshott No.11202
>>11200>My dream game idea would be a JA2 1.13 remake with an Operation Gladio themeBased, I had thought about a JA2 where you're more mercenary than objectively the good guys overthrowing a cartoon villain dictator.
No.11203
>>11202You're filling me with motivation, comrade. What a great day today has been
cockshottCockshott No.11204
>>11203Where would you have it? Berlin? 1980s?
The game would be hilariously nihilistic considering you'd be slaughtering civilians for no real reason as nuclear war would destroy both sides. Could be a good dry satire of American cold war ideology.
No.11206
>>11200>>11202I would love to make a turn based tactics game like JA2 but it'll require a lot of assets and that's the biggest hindrance.
Wish people outside of code had a culture of openness.
No.11208
I'm the /agdg/ guy
>>11203>>11204>>11206I just started working on my first game and the aim is to lay the groundwork for a future JA2 1.13 successor. I know it won't be an easy task, but I have to start something.
Feel free to contact me through itch.io (mqdev.itch.io/) or directly on the discord (besides the /vg/ general thread, there's a discord
https://discord.gg/SUhkUbqd).
Because of this specific toolkit for TBS games, I chose UE4.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNiHDaJeqA16CsnxJJDjG9qgubj15jXKFIt's been used in several AAA games and the developer is extremely responsive (there's also a discord for the toolkit). I cannot overstate how much stuff the toolkit already implements. Check the tutorials if you want motivation.
>>11206Don't concern yourself about assets at this point. There's always the option of crowd-funding it once the gameplay is tight enough.
cockshottCockshott No.11215
>>11200I used to browse /agdg/ back in the day, sadly I'm just a nodev idea guy, and honestly my ideas aren't that great either
No.11217
>>11215The issue with gamedev is that it's rather labour intensive. On the plus side, there's tons of tutorials and information about all the engines.
Even if you're not making a game, I would love your feedback.
If you're all ok with it, I'll post progress here as well as on /agdg/.
Here's my first, from a couple of weeks ago.
cockshottCockshott No.11218
>>11217looks like it's on track
No.11219
>>11218Thank you! :D
cockshottCockshott No.11220
>>11217Honestly the biggest hurdle for me is graphics. Well, and I'm lazy and motivated only by grand ideas I have nowhere near the skills to tackle. Maybe I'll try making a simple idle game one day. But enough about my problems.
Damn that's awesome, it's coming along nice, good job!
No.11221
>>11220>the biggest hurdle for me is graphicsIn what sense? I'm a greenhorn, but maybe I can offer some answers. Are you worried about having to learn 3D modelling? Because you can always commission those later.
>Well, and I'm lazy and motivated only by grand ideas I have nowhere near the skills to tackle.That's an extremely common problem! Games that we're motivated to make tend to be larger, but smaller games have a greater chance of being finished. What I am trying to do is a much smaller scale, simpler, version of the game I would actually want to make. That way reaching the finish line is actually feasible (which is also important for motivation in later stages of development) and I could expand the smaller, finished game into a larger one afterwards.
Thank you for your kind words! You fill me with motivation!
cockshottCockshott No.11222
>>11217>In what sense? I'm a greenhorn, but maybe I can offer some answers. Are you worried about having to learn 3D modelling? Because you can always commission those later.Yeah that and just regular old 2D sprites as well, though you have a point, I could just pop in some programmer art and take care of it later.
>That's an extremely common problem! Games that we're motivated to make tend to be larger, but smaller games have a greater chance of being finished. What I am trying to do is a much smaller scale, simpler, version of the game I would actually want to make. That way reaching the finish line is actually feasible (which is also important for motivation in later stages of development) and I could expand the smaller, finished game into a larger one afterwards.That's actually a very good idea. I'll have to look over my notes and see if I can find an idea I can scale down. Thank you!
>Thank you for your kind words! You fill me with motivation!No problem!
No.11223
>>11222Glad I could help! You can find lots of assets (both 2D and 3D) online, some of them even free. So you might not even need programmer art for the placeholders.
A non exhaustive list:
https://opengameart.orghttps://blender-models.comhttps://www.turbosquid.com/Search/3D-Models/https://www.cgtrader.com/https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/free [1]
[1] The UE4 has lots of very cool stuff (like the Quixel Megascans) and they give away free assets every month. [2] I believe this limits you to using them in Unreal Engine games, but since I'm already married to it (because of the aforementioned TBS toolkit [3]) it's not an issue for me.
I am reluctant to recommend a specific engine or tool, because of my lack of experience, but if you want to make a TBS game, I would at least suggest you check the ATBTT toolkit [3] before deciding.
Best of luck! I'm sure you'll find an idea that you can scale down. If you pop into the discord, search for mqdev and say hi.
[2] This month's haul was a bit weak, but there's often very interesting and useful stuff. Worth logging in once a month even if you are using a different engine, in case you want to give UE a whirl in the future.
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/assets?count=20&sortBy=effectiveDate&sortDir=DESC&start=0&tag=4910[3]
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/advanced-turn-based-tile-toolkitcockshottCockshott No.11224
>>11223I forgot one of the links.
https://free3d.com/But I'm sure I am missing some. Specially for 2D. The less you worry about assets at the start, the better. Hold to your placeholders!
cockshottCockshott No.11227
Regarding engines, I haven't touched any for years and only did a couple of fun shitty games as a teen in Unity (known for lots of community assets and more beginner-friendly/rapid-dev interface) and them graphics-focused work in UE4 because of its specific realistic rendering features. Since then, Godot was invented and while I haven't used it mysself, I want to see it become the best.
Basically, never pick one and invest in it just because you heard the name, once you know what you want to make, find the right tool for it and you.
Hopefully I can find those old games, one was a simple FPS where you can switch between shooting a cube, a grenade (explode on impact), a shotgun spray of 50 cubes, or a shotgun spray of 50 grenades. Pretty fun stuff despite the simplicity.
No.11229
I want to make a card game, like a tcg but I have zero clue where to start. I have a lot of cards/ideas prototyped, the game exists in some form, but when it comes to coding it's always bounced off of me.
No.11230
>>11227I too would love to develop in Godot, but I lack the skills to create the game I want without the extra help from UE4 toolkits.
>>11229For instance
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/ccg-toolkitAlso, remember to use some sort of Source Control and back ups. That way you can always access your games, no matter how long ago you made them!
cockshottCockshott No.11235
I am actually writing a game again, shall become a trade simulator in the discovery age plus 1700s with hopefully a resoure economy like in railroad tycoon 3 (every tile has a price for every reousource and they pushed over paths or river even without player interaction)
Dont expect too much, I am keeping with my projects but one can easily take 1-2 years and I never sold anything
No.11237
>>11236sorry for my retarded spelling. My keyboard is barely working
No.11238
sorry for my spamming but I can maybe offer a bit of assistance to people completely new in gamedev here so I keep my ears open. Keep coding guys.
And by Marx use event managers if you write games. And dont use python, I love it but its horrible for games.
No.11240
>>11238>And dont use python, I love it but its horrible for games.ffs someone else told me that Python was alright.
>>10904I'm trying to write a Snake game right now as an introduction to C++, though.
No.11243
>>11240c++ is hard but if you master it you will not regret it. I cant tell you cause I dont but in terms of performance its king.
I did civ like game in python over like 2-3 years and eventually, as nice as it was I stumbled on its borders. Writing graphics stuff in opengl myself is sadly a smidge too high for my poor soul.
When you do snake and use a two dimensional array (var map= [[0,0,1], [0,1,0], etc) you are already using a grid system that you can later advance to everything from xcom to civ for later projects.
if you already do memory allocation with c++ you already know more than I do in those things, keep the work going :)
ddrDDR No.11244
>>11235>>11236>>11237Nice! Do you have an itch.io page or twitter?
cockshottCockshott No.11246
>>11244I do have twitter but personal stuff in my mother tongue. If I keep at it for 2 months or so I can make one tho.
I was suspicious of leftypol after the split but I am - pathetially moved - that it really seems to be something I an enjoy again. Anyway, really enough posts for today but I will give you updates.
Dont overestimte it tho, rn its more or less a cool scrollable map in javascript. Hope I dont fall on my nose with the language again :/
ddrDDR No.11248
>>11247Gute Nacht, comrade! Keep us posted!
cockshottCockshott No.11252
>>11223Thanks for the resources! Honestly I did purchase RPG Maker and I've been considering making something with that but that's where the lack of art becomes a problem, without it there's not much to offer to players. I have some ideas for shitty meme idle games I may make because it seems like it would be fairly straightforward. For that I may have to learn Javascript or HTML5 or something similar, make it a browser game. I do know some C++ and Java from when I was studying Computer Science.
Anyway I'll figure it out, I need to learn to talk less about doing things and just do them.
No.11261
>>11252That's the spirit!
cockshottCockshott No.11333
>>11230I'm back, and I made bit of progress! It's not much, mind you. Thank you for the motivation, comrades!
I'm not posting on itch.io (mqdev) until I package it for Demo Day, but you can always check my twitter (mqdev_)
cockshottCockshott No.11335
Had an idea about a FPS game where you create your revolution from very beginning, and you have to account for logistics, morale, stockpiles etc, instead of just being a mindless shooting fest (looking at you Far Cry). Figured it would have some RPG elements in it, where you evolve your character and the movement as whole (sorta like Fallout i guess? Never played). Name will be something like Far Out Alliance.
Quests (both main and secondary) will include: convincing people to your cause, kidnapping important assets, assassinations, sabotage, guerrilla, conventional warfare, building and protection of bases against enemy attacks, stealing equipment and so on.
The map will be medium-sized since i think the "bigger=better" bouj mentality is generally wrong, but will broken down in sufficient zones/areas/districts to make it feel grander.
The story will be about about the liberation of a territory from foreign occupation.
If it wasn't obvious enough, i'm inspired by the Chinese Revolution.
Sequel/DLC being a scenario where you play as reactionary who puts an earlier rebellion down.
I will never actually make this game, but if someone do, just send me a free copy plz.
No.11346
>>11335scale it down by 10 times, and you have something that can be actual be done.
in this thread you enough resource to make it
No.11353
>>11346You see, it's not really about having resources for it, but rather patient/commitment/will, which i really don't.
Besides that, if my miserable attempts at learning python have teach me anything, is that i detest coding and programming, so i doubt i'll find the idea of working with any other language for some 2-3 years to be bearable.
No.11354
>>11335> so i doubt i'll find the idea of working with any other language for some 2-3 years to be bearable.i feel you i do PHP and node for a living i know the pain.
but you can contribute to your project by other means like level design etc… to do something that's manageable maybe you can find someone to work with, i would have love to help you but i'm currently overworked and working on a fighting game (for about a year ?)
Or you can learn only logic type and use something like unreal engine blueprint it's more manageable.
No.11355
>>11335I didn't know Todd Howard used /leftypol/
No.11360
>>11335Jagged Alliance kinda, but not an FPS
No.11364
>>11335>>11360This. Look into Jagged Alliance 2 with the 1.13 mod. It's ancient, but there's a reason they're still updating the mod after all these years.
cockshottCockshott No.11365
>>11354I second this. ue4 blueprints are much more user-friendly, there's a huge discord where you can ask questions (unreal slackers) and tons of videos explaining every "node" (Mathew Wadstein on youtube).
I'd say give it a try.
cockshottCockshott No.11370
>>11354>>11360>>11364>>11365Alright people, you've convinced me. I'll take a look at the resources here and learn more about gamedev. Thanks for all the inputs.
>>11355I'm not trying to shove skyrim into my alarm clock, so i have no clue what you're talking about.
No.11377
Is developing something like Chapter Master and Aurora 4X difficult? I always wanted to see a 4X game that has almost nothing to do with expansion but more about ruling over a planet. Something like a planetary governor simulator.
The end goal would just to exist as long as possible without getting your ass replaced or killed.
No.11378
>>11333Got the clock and day counter working.
>>11370Glad to hear that! Let us know how it goes!
Some other relevant engines: twine and renpy (python!):
Twine is used for "choose your own adventure" type games, while renpy is for visual novels (for a more general one look up "pygame") while still being accessible by the virtue of being python.
https://twinery.org/https://www.renpy.org/https://www.pygame.org/wiki/GettingStartedGames made with each software (NSFW! I don't know how to filter out adult games on itch.io and there seem to be many of those)
https://itch.io/games/made-with-twinehttps://itch.io/games/made-with-pygamehttps://itch.io/games/made-with-renpy>>11377I can't say anythin about Chapter Master, but 4x games must be among the most difficult genres. I have looked up some games that could fit what you have in mind. The first one is specially simple (a series of binary choices) and could be a good first game (maybe. I am a rookie too!). Te second seems more complex, although it's text-driven too.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/474750/Reigns/?utm_source=SteamPeekhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1207650/Suzerain/?utm_source=SteamPeekYou can find games that are similar to the one you want to model yours after with this site:
https://steampeek.hu/It shows more obscure games that won't show in a steam game's page, so you can see less successful games as well. Those might be useful as learning material (what they did wrong? What did they do well?) even if they're not great games. Best of luck!
cockshottCockshott No.11379
I finished my stupid C++ snake game, I'll try to follow another tutorial to compare and learn. Then after that I'm making another simple game in C++.
Also reminder that you don't need amazing art to sell your game, even bad and simple but charming art can suffice, especially if the game is fun.
No.11380
>>11354>working on a fighting game (for about a year ?)Tell us more anon, please
No.11381
>>11379This. And I would add that if you have a good game with placeholder art you can get funding (kickstarter, for instance) to buy the art, music, and all the bells and whistles.
>>11354>>11380Yeah! And post it, please
cockshottCockshott No.11383
>>11380i'm sorry i cant show any art it's the artist game idea so i'm just helping him with code and general design (also i suck at fighting game)
It's a 2d fighting similar to darkstalkers with full pixelart with some modern effect (like parallax background maps lighting etc).
i will keep you update when we decide to show it up.
Btw those are "game" that i have posted here
>>311>>1588>>1705 No.11409
>>11383>>1705Speaking of which, if I want to share a game here, how should I do it? I don't wanna accidentally spread viruses or use my personal accounts for storage.
No.11411
>>11409you can host it in itch.io
No.11417
>>11411But I don't want to make an account for that. I wonder if I should get a GitHub account.
No.11422
>>11417Why not?
Github is owned by microsoft. Use Gitlab or any other alternatives. Source control is always a good idea.
cockshottCockshott No.11461
Could a JRPG based on 2016 American politics still be fun or would it be horribly dated?
No.11466
>>11409>>11417it really doesn't matter anon, just pick whatever works best for you
No.11503
>>11461Depends on how you portray the political aspect, the writing and the humor I guess
>>11422Alright I guess I'm gonna use Gitlab, thanks
No.11509
>>11500Godot's visual scripting is good and it still lack some features like for housekeeping( like group node that you can actual see the children in the node kinda in Natron2 or blender)
and tell is less number of demos compare to Gdscript or C#
overall UE4 blueprint is a good start for someone new because of the Shittone of resources available because of how popular it's
No.11540
>>11500I didn't know it had visual scripting besides gdscript! This is great news. If I wasn't married to ue4 I would definitely use Godot. I encourage everyone to use it. Cruelty Squad was made with it!
https://twitter.com/csoftproducts/status/1369574404611584001?lang=encockshottCockshott No.11542
>>11461How hard would it be to update each 4 years?
No.11543
>>11540>If I wasn't married to ue4 I would definitely use Godot. I encourage everyone to use it.For sure. It's great to start seeing the "it's free so its shit" mentality get disproved more and more.
Also, the devs are based.
Unironically might start a game today just to play around with it, since the demos provide a nice template.
No.11548
>>11503Well I like to believe I'm funny and could pull it off, but maybe not
>>11542Well a big chunk of the plot is about the Trump presidency and liberals' reactions to it
No.11550
>>11543You can join #godotengine on Libera's IRC besides the discord channel. It's always nice to have somewhere to ask question and get quick answers. Especially at the beginning.
>>11548Don't let your dreams be dreams, but since it would take time, I'd aim for 2024 or at maybe the mid-terms
cockshottCockshott No.11558
>>11543>It's great to start seeing the "it's free so its shit" mentality get disproved more and more.Does anyone actually still believe that shit nowadays? I think the quality of free and open source projects is widely acknowledged.
No.11566
>>11543Yep, sounds based, guess I'm learning to use Godot now
I used to have a friend who wanted to make a commercial indie game with me, and he wasn't sure if he should use Unity or Godot. I think back then there wasn't much documentation for this engine, otherwise he would've picked it.
No.11721
>>290I think the OP needs this too:
https://www.aseprite.org/Aseprite is a pixel art program that's $19.99, but it's open source and it's free if you compile it.
https://github.com/aseprite/aseprite No.11724
>>11723I mean, if you really,
really want to make games for old consoles it might be useful. I want to make a game for the GBA.
No.11728
>>11723Don't torture yourself… If you want to improve as a programmer and make games, C++ is the way to go.
cockshottCockshott No.11733
>>11723Btw, ue4 blueprints are easy peasy to learn. Implemented sight radius in very little time. Trying to create a "matrix" to store faction relations data messed me up a bit, but I believe it's because I was devving for too many consecutive days.
Whatever you do, remember to make breaks often!
https://twitter.com/mqdev_/status/1425120846352470016cockshottCockshott No.11738
>>11724>>11728>>11733Honestly I feel I just want my game on a real game boy and not really learn assembly, I should not worry about optimization that much since modern computers have so many fucking layers of abstraction.
I should just focus on getting better at c++
No.11751
>>11738If it helps with motivation (C++ es hard), you can check out the miriad of open source games coded in C++, like Wesnoth or Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataclysm:_Dark_Days_Aheadhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_for_WesnothcockshottCockshott No.11756
>>11751Yeah I was planning on studying other game's code later on
Thanks
No.11782
Holy fuck, I thought this thread had been deleted since I couldn't find it in the first pages
With this last transfer they fucked up the flags as well
So I've been reading "Sams Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days" although at a snail's pace (the introduction was kinda boring), at least I'm on Day 2 now. I'm still not sure what kind of game (or tool) I want to make in C++, though.
No.11792
tradegame ddr dude here. I eventually decided to go 3d and after some moderately painful time with babylonjs I now think that ogre not not even be that bad of an idea.
Nice heightmapmesh they now have now I do find not much about how to load it from a file, Pretty new feature I gues and I am also new to it, wite not to programming
No.11793
>>11782I mean not ogre bot godot, sorry. I am not myself without sweet herbs :<
No.11794
>>11723waste of time imo. Assembler is nice but at least going with c should make your code much better organized
No.11795
>>11335if you mean a mixture of stretagy & shooter you should take a look at the arma/ofp cti mods for inspiration (and fun)
No.12015
>>12014
I've never played Warcraft, but are you assuming the game is the same size?
Because it's I assume possible for one professional graphics designer to make a tiny game with that same graphics quality, which would be far, far easier than a full game with that quality. One half is the artistic skill and the other half is doing it over and over again which takes time and motivation.
I'm skipping over the actual gameplay stuff and graphics engine stuff because I'm assuming a game engine would work.
No.12035
>>12015yeah like a similar level fo 3d graphics to the early 2000s in polygon count or w/e or better, but a smaller scale game.
No.12051
What do you recommend for making fighting games?
No.12979
Testing
No.12981
>>12051if it's 3D models,I guess you could use the unity toolset,or code it entirely in unreal engine.
If it's pure 2d,you can unironically build something with MUGEN,but you can't sell it that way.
You could also just make something from scratch in godot or gamemaker (if you're crazy) depending on what you want,I don't think there is that much specific fighting games oriented engine,and the Fighter maker community looks like its dead after all this time (you also can't sell stuff made with it legally)
Or you could do what crazy people always tell me on those type of question : just code your own game engine entirely with just what you need.
No.12982
I was wondering how I could make a playable slime,that needs to roll around to move,can jump,and all of this while his body is "jello" like.
I've tried on unity,I managed to somehow make a cube move using only physics vectors,but when I try to make a soft-body for the actual character,I don't understand jack shit on how its even supposed to work,and using premade bones in blender didn't help.
No.13004
>>12981>you can unironically build something with MUGEN,but you can't sell it that way.Why not? I don't know a lot about MUGEN.
No.13005
>>13004well,because the license to use it is legit only for non-commercial use,they can sue you if you try to sell stuff made with it (I think you can ask them via mail if you want to still do it,but they're probably going to ask you for a fee at best)
No.13006
>>12982You are thinking of making a sidescroller like Gish or something like basically Super Monkey Ball with a liquid like Mercury Meltdown?
No.13008
>>13005Oh, alright, I don't think that'll be necessary because I doubt I'll ever make a commercial fighting game.
I've never used it, how good is MUGEN compared to other engines?
No.13011
>>13006>Mercury Meltdownoh,I never heard of that.
The second answer is pretty much what I thought yes.
No.14175
Is it possible to track me or know any of my personal info just from a game I've released anonymously?
I'm hyper paranoid about people finding out who I am or my computer name/IP/location, or worst of all a video game company wanting to sue me for making porn of their games with Ren'Py, even if released anonymously and for free
No.14176
>>14175probably the wrong thread but whatever
1) who is your adversary? random fans and nazis? google? literal government agencies you've attacked?
2) how are you publishing it? what type of files are published and where is it? did you make any accounts?
3) if you're talking about government agencies, then maybe start caring about lexographic analysis but they probably aren't an enemy you should care about
4) are you a known artist with an art style? are you reusing a pseudonym?
No.14177
>>14175Unless you mentioned something in the game to do with yourself, then the biggest risk is where you upload it to. If it was Github for example there is a chance they would get subpoena'd for the details you signed up with or an IP to correlate (assuming US or a real pussy ally).
But honestly, I doubt it would be economically worth their money to sue. You're not really hurting them, right? They're probably more worried about Chinese ripoffs or pirates or something.
No.14178
>>14176>>14177>1) who is your adversary? random fans and nazis? google? literal government agencies you've attacked?I don't think I have made any enemies yet but I'm afraid that imageboard autists (especially 4chan) and drama communities might want to harass me if I somehow enter their radar and say or do the wrong thing. There's the Twitter witch hunts too but I'm much less worried about that. Really my biggest concern in this regard is becoming popular and dumb shit from my past resurfacing.
>2) how are you publishing it? what type of files are published and where is it? did you make any accounts?I haven't made any accounts on GitHub or any site of that sort, but I was thinking of
releasing this fangame's assets separately (images in one file uploaded to a file sharing site OR posted to an art site, script on pastebin, music on SoundCloud or something, etc.) and sharing the links when relevant, even if that would take some time and effort to put together, kek
Or just
uploading the RAR with the full game (or the full game sans the art, for example) to a file sharing site.
>3) if you're talking about government agencies, then maybe start caring about lexographic analysis but they probably aren't an enemy you should care about>If it was Github for example there is a chance they would get subpoena'd for the details you signed up with or an IP to correlate (assuming US or a real pussy ally).Not at all. The most I've done is be a leftypol user. And piracy, but I live in the third world if that helps.
>4) are you a known artist with an art style? are you reusing a pseudonym?I'm not well known though some people might remember me from a certain site. I don't really have a presence because I almost never post art kek. Changing my artstyle as much as possible might be way too time-consuming for me but I'm half-trying, any obsessed autist with too much time on their hands could find the similarities in style if they wanted, anyway. I wouldn't mind the game being unofficially associated with that art pseudonym and players figuring it out by themselves, if that would be enough to avoid getting sued.
>But honestly, I doubt it would be economically worth their money to sue. You're not really hurting them, right? They're probably more worried about Chinese ripoffs or pirates or something.The thing is that I've seen a couple of other
porn projects related to that franchise being taken down, though the creators were making money off them on Patreon so that's probably why.
I think I'm much less paranoid now, so thanks guys. That thing about the other games that were taken down is still scary though.
No.14184
>>14178>but I live in the third world if that helps.Oh hell yeah it does. For starters, most of those groups you mentioned are anglo shits who can't do much over there.
>though the creators were making money off them on Patreon so that's probably why.Yeah, if they're making money off someone else's IP, it's a lot less ambiguous and more motivating to take it down.
>Really my biggest concern in this regard is becoming popular and dumb shit from my past resurfacing.Don't reuse a pseudonym/username. Don't reuse an email address. Feel free to lie. If you can still log into the old account, you could be able to set false information (like saying you live in Russia, changing contact info) so even if it is associated with the old account, a company won't consider suing and an internet autist won't me able to cross-reference the details to find more history.
Uploading all the assets in one file is probably easier for the users, and involves less account creation/pseudonyms. It might be worth chucking images/etc. through a metadata remover (although that's mostly only a problem for photos from a camera) like exiftool. Scripts are plain-text so nothing hidden in them.
No.14199
>>14189update: i put some spiders and now i feel spiders walking up my arms
update 2: expanded the cave… thing i can't scale the cave so much so idk if keep it that way or try and find a bigger piece…
update 3: fuhgeddaboudit, i'll just use this cooler cave piece but i have to figure out how to remove it's collition so you can walk inside it without problem…
No.14202
>>14198>Pokemon fangame in RPG MakerEnjoy your takedown notice
No.14203
always wanted to make my own 3d engine
godot sucks, it's just an open source unity rip-off
also check these out
http://www.sortingh.at/http://rpg.hamsterrepublic.com/ohrrpgce/Main_Page No.14205
>>14203>>14204also, just wanna shout-out vulkan too
https://www.vulkan.org/basically the solution to proprietary APIs like DirectX
No.14206
>>14203>it's just an open source unity rip-offHow is this a bad thing? I have a full-time job and three other hobbies, I don't want to have to learn how to make an engine just to create a small free meme game.
If you can do better, then great, but general purpose game engines are cool. Even Macromedia Flash was revolutionary.
No.14208
>>14206i'm not against general purpose game engines, i'm against godot specifically
No.14211
>>14208Why Godot specifically?
t. the mere fact it's an open-source Unity wannabe is enough for me to like it No.14212
>>14211it is kind of the best of what it is, still doesn't make it good enough though
check out love2d, it's extremely flexible, lua is great for scripting in general, and there are even libraries for 3d rendering and stuff
No.14225
>>14215Neither am I but I'm still afraidAlso, they can't really touch a Chinese developer, but if you live in the "west" it's likely that they will get you
No.14309
>>14203It's nothing like Unity.
Try it, it is very easy to get started.
Then formulate your opinion.
>anyone in not-/ddg/ actually doing productionsMaking myself laugh.
No.14313
>>11723I know this is an old post, but for future references
https://www.gbstudio.dev/ No.14358
what is everyone up to here?
give me a quick rundown, i want to participate but i'm scared lol
No.14362
>>14358still try figure out what project to do.
i'm stuck between either making a xcom like game ( a la Xenonauts with rebels guerrilla instead of alien) or first person starship adventure
No.14363
>>14362Remember to think small, you need to be realistic in your expectations.
No.14364
>>14363cont.
A small game with a fun little idea at its core is a lot more interesting than someone trying to rip off a AAA game with 0.2% of the budget.
No.14367
>>14363>>14364Yes don't worry ,i have already made games, i'm not overscooping i'm just extremely indecisive for what to new project to start.
No.14368
>>14367Aight fair enough, I just see so many stupid dum dum teams trying to bite off more than they can chew. Good luck anon.
No.14376
>>14368idunno, if something has taught us all the realms deep games this year is that sometimes is ok to ask for a big plate and eat it slowly but surely
invite some people, make a feast with your comrades.
No.14441
>>14362Just start. Your first attempt is going to fail, as will many subsequent ones. So there's no point in overthinking things.
Besides, this pre-production shit you got yourself caught in is just procrastination. We all do or did it at some point. Just code, dummy.
No.14879
>>14871programming is easy enough to learn, it's can become menial though
you just need to know what you're designing, really
No.14885
Embedding error.
>>14879I don't know, the amount of jargon. Also I get really confused reading through the API reference. Like damn, this seems important, couldn't you have written a little more explaining what this does and how this works?
Also I want to learn best practices kind of stuff from the beginning so I don't waste my time writing bad code that gets the result but in a terribly inefficient way. Anyone here know about ECS? Seems like something that could be important for some of the things I want to make.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity_component_system
>programming is easy enough to learn, it's can become menial thoughFrom my experience: 3d Modeling is basically like that. It's kind of relaxing. I mean people assemble plastic printouts of CAD drawings as a hobby, so why wouldn't making the original drawing be kind of relaxing as well? I was reading this interview with the makers of World of Guns and they were saying how modeling guns is braindead work and I've seen other people saying making CAD sketches is monkey work. Then again I saw this guy who does amazing likeness sculpts say the hardest part was finging good reference photos. That's how it is with the guns, you have to keep searching and searching for different angles of the gun until you can see what's happening in certain areas. Even if it's braindead work, it's taught me a lot about guns and I think I'll make better designs with my own fantasy weapons. So many concept artists just make absolute ridiculous looking fantasy guns IMHO.
No.15309
Anybody have resources on making music?
No.15311
>>14362The rule is that your first ~20 games will be bad. You need to start with something basic and simple that you will be able to
finish above all else. Think like an old school arcade game in terms of size/complexity. Get experience making stuff and figuring out workflow before you commit to a project that you actually care about and want to see come to fruition.
No.15441
Embedding error.
I've been working on trees. I tried Tree It the freeware software but I wasn't ese pecially happy with it. I thonk I got better results with the free mtree addon for blender. Not to mention tree it is broken as hell. i can't launch unless I reinstall it each time I use it.
Another free tree software to check out is another tree addon for blender called sapling.
Next one I will probably try out is sidefx houdini tree plugin. I hate rentals but houdini is a pretty cool parametric software. Blender has some pretty cool parametric stuff now so maybe I won't need it.
No.15442
Embedding error.
>>15441This guy uses tree it. Definitely check out his channel if you are doing unresl dev. Excellent info on optimization and a lot of other things on this guy's channel.
No.15547
Blender tip for yall: They introduced the industry-commpatible keymap stock with the program but it seems kind of wack. There's also an independant industry keymap, but I don't like either of them that much. For those that don't know. Most 3d apps use the same exact shortcuts for translate rotate scale(W, E, R) and camera translate, pan, zoom (Alt-left click, alt-middle, alt-right click) but Blender has to be retarded and not use the same keys everyone else uses. Fortunately you can just replace those and then leave the rest, I think there is only minor conflicts to be resolved with other shortcuts and you'll be good to go and you can still follow Blender default shortcut tutorials.
No.16429
blender is not gamedev, fun fact
No.16569
>Krita
btw if you’re making a 2D indie game, it’s better to try out vector graphics like in adobe flash
godot doesn’t have native support for vector graphics rendering and svg’s will be converted into a raster image during import, but there’s this library in C++ blend2d.com
No.16614
>>11378I'm picking this game again, conrads. Migrating to UE 5.0.
Also, Cockshot is transphobic, fuck.
No.16616
>>16614Cockshott is cyber-socialism gang, he's a fellow comrade advancing theory on economic planning. He is also a staunch advocate of the interests of the proletariat. You can disagree with him on cultural issues, but if you don't uphold class solidarity when you do that we have to wonder whether you are a class traitor.
No.16652
>>16632you need to find uni/college students desperate for a gig
No.16768
>>16632You're supposed to look for them!
>>16652Like this, for instance.
Speaking of which, are you guys active on any ciscord servers?
No.16769
>>16632Bullshit lol. You need experienced people and at least 2 years of development.
A team of 5 software engineers, minimum 100k USD in the US, 60k Euros in Europe.
Then a team of artists and designers, you can probably get away with an average of 3 during the project. Minimum 50k USD, 40k euros.
You dont have the money for it.
No.16790
>>16769bruh this is a game dev studio we’re talking about here, most workers are extremely underpaid and precarious. this isn’t a fucking campus start-up. that being said, that anon should also fuck off
No.16819
>>16632Use your money in a more intelligent way than keeping this shitty industry alive.
No.19040
>>16768>>16652>>16632you need to hire people off fiverr/upwork to work on your project for you, this can be done with relatively cheapness but you need excellent project management skills to stop it from becoming a moneysink shitshow.
No.19043
I'm thinking of making a game but I have no experience in game dev. I'm a programmer with experience but its mostly in web dev, plus there are the other aspects of making a game like game design, writing story/characters, 3d art, 2d art, music&audio, and marketing. I've downloaded a bunch of books on how to draw shit, in order to make concept art for my game (I've been influenced by Metzen/early blizz style concept art). I've also downloaded a bunch of books on blender, etc.
I'm trying to get better at the art aspect of games because without art your game will never surpass a 1980s or tabletop d&d game even though certain games have figurines like warhammer 40k.
I originally thought of making a game based on space combat with an orthographic perspective. Essentially you are a commander of a spaceship and you get into battles with other species, etc. The problem is that a ton of these games have already been made so I'm trying to come up with a more novel concept. I prefer plot driven games with single player campaigns so I'd have to shill out for voice actors, etc. Luckily there are places to do this for cheap.
Basically I'm currently in the design phase and creating a backstory.
Basically the plot would be the humans are the bad guys and are like European colonial powers in the age of exploration, but like imperialist cowboys or like the southern US confederacy combined with colonial Belgium in africa. Basically think the real life "war on terror" crossed with Avatar, Warhammer 40k & Starcraft, with the humans having an evil sovereign, but with the aliens having way more tech and actually being able to put up a decent fight (both for balance reasons and lore reasons - unlike that deus ex machina bullshit ending of Avatar).
Also I want to give the game an aesthetic of horror, but I haven't quite figure out how to fit that point in. I feel like the game will have a lot of deep space battles on space stations in nebulas, dogfights in asteroid belts, etc. If you've ever played the Descent Freespace series from the 90s this is a huge influence as well.
In order to build up my game dev, design & art skills though, I want to start with some less ambitious projects, maybe prequels of a kind or side stories set in the same shared universe.
No.19044
>>19043Here's an idea just make it a literal USA expy with the mass shootings school shootings and everything
No.19046
>>19044>Here's an idea just make it a literal USA expy with the mass shootings school shootings and everythingtoo hamfisted and "preachy" even for modern audiences
No.19265
>>14206>just to create a small free meme gameyeah, like we really need more of those
No.19535
>>19533Making small and cute games
No.19546
>>19043>I'm trying to get better at the art aspect of games because without art your game will never surpass a 1980s or tabletop d&d game even though certain games have figurines like warhammer 40k.I'd say don't worry about the art at all. Just make a playable demo of your game with stand in art. I'm an artist trying to learn programming and that's the route I am going.
A game without art is still a game but art without programming isn't a hame at all.
Also don't worry about the story either. Make the fucking game first.
Shit story + great gameplay = great game
Shit gameplay + great story = shit game
No.19556
A good resource for all you aspiring devs Go on Sketchfab and click these three options. All of them allow you to use them for commercial use. You can find professional quality models of most guns, cars, furniture, etc. Crazy stuff on there for free.
https://sketchfab.com/search?features=downloadable&licenses=72360ff1740d419791934298b8b6d270&licenses=b9ddc40b93e34cdca1fc152f39b9f375&licenses=322a749bcfa841b29dff1e8a1bb74b0b&type=modelsIf you're using Unreal make sure to check out all the content Epic gives away free each month on the marketplace as well.
No.21417
What kind of game should I make? What's an under-served genre in the indie market?
No.21418
>>21417Make a game where you manage a socialist revolution
like 'Republic: The Revolution' but not 20% finished
No.21430
>>21417make like a roguelite with hints of metroidvania and shoot'em'ups and nods towards (copies) retro themes (awful tropes from the 90's)
No.21433
how good is godot engine to make games that are for examples.
Metal slug like shoot em up
Beat em up like Mother russia bleeds
Games like Crisis in the kremlin
and games with high complexity like Dwarf fortress.
i have some games in my mind and if the engine can create stuff like this i could start trying to do it.
No.21439
>>21433you can make a 2d game like the first 2 with simple scripting in godot
if you wanna make a more mechanically complex game like a simulator or RTS, then you should learn to program low-level
dwarf fortress is written in C++ with SDL iirc
No.21441
>>21430>>21418>>21417Make a game where you manage a socialist revolution, with procedurally generated material conditions like a roguelike with metroidvania politics mechanics heavily inspired by 90s stereotypes of communism.
And the economic controls are like QWOP.
No.21442
>>21439thanks, gonna keep this in mind, gonna keep plotting these ideas of three games.
No.21547
>>21418Hmm, never heard of it. Sounds kind of like Liberal Crime Squad? I played that one a little, but I don't think I even finished one game. I've liked the idea of playing a crime org simulator for awhile. I saw some drug lord tycoon in the steam charts not too long ago, I don' know how they approached it.
No.21548
>>21547I'd have to go back and look at LCS again but I really liked the juice meter. That's a cool idea that could be implemented in a lot of RPGs, a notoriety meter that you have to keep doing stuff to get refilled that effects your interaction with the NPCs.
No.21550
>>21547I finished Liberal Crime Squad, that game was the shit, but no, Republic the Revolution is more like… idk, it's not really like anything because like I said it was totally unfinished. I would barely even call it playable let alone fun.
No.21551
>>21548I liked how the normal society is just normal society, but far right mode is basically Fahrenheit 451 with death squads everywhere, then if society goes ultra liberal your party will be stopped by negotiators and bards lol.
No.21555
>>21550>I finished Liberal Crime Squad, that game was the shit, but no, Republic the Revolution is more like… idk, it's not really like anything because like I said it was totally unfinished. I would barely even call it playable let alone fun.Lol, ok. I started watching a video talking about the difference between what they promised and the shipped game. I dunno maybe I'll play a demo. Why don't you describe what you think the general gameplay mechanics should be in the ideal game you're picturing?
No.21585
how do you accomplish anything in LCS beyond extremely minor pointless crimes?
No.21586
>>21585Start kidnapping people and brainwashing them. And seducing people into sex slaves.
No.21602
>>21586how does that influence the supreme court
wouldn't i need to do that to millions of people to have a difference
No.21608
>>21602Your crimes get publicised in the papers and give solace to the liberal cause, people are inspired by your actions to force their politicians to enact super-liberal policies and recall the supreme court. Your sleeper agents also push society in the ultra-liberal direction, obviously the more powerful their job the more effective this will be. Best targets are TV hosts, judges, politicians, etc.
To be honest, I think that the rise of the alt right shooter combined with Trump has shown us that random terrorism is a relatively effective way to garner support for your cause (an oversimplification but whatever)
No.21609
>>21602Also remember that you are only operating in a single city, presumably there are similar operations happening across the USA
No.22419
I picked gamedev again. I'll post progress on the following weeks.
No.23214
What's the easiest/simplest way to make a video game? Assume I'm a novice with no coding experience at all.
No.23217
>>23214You literally cannot get anywhere without basic coding knowledge. My advice would be to first watch some videos on basic programming concepts, then pick up some intuitive game-oriented book on coding like Head First C# (it has some material on Unity if you plan on using that engine) and start learning from it. As for the choice of engine, you better just try your hand with many different engines and do not worry which one is better until you are accustomized to them and their technicalities enough, which would be the point when you can definitely decide on it. If its a small casual game, then for example Godot might be the proper choice.
No.23399
>RPGmakeri've been trying to work with the engine, it's probably a great tool if you want to make a regular kind of jrpg but for anything else it's just a huge pain that needs a lot of plugins to get working (shhodily)
https://squirmunity.com/ No.23405
>>11723absolute waste of time, if you really want to write something low level write it in C, it will still cock and ball torture you to write a game in that but at least it wont be uber platform specific and you can indent shit and have variable names instead of trying to figure out what you left in each register and dealing with jump statements and shit. and dont even get me started on system calls.
No.23406
>>23405also I should add that most C code is very simple syntactic sugar on assembly, so you're not going to gain any increase in performance and your code will probably run slower if anything because your implementation of whatever function will probably be slower than the C implementation.
if you really want to learn more about low level stuff, take a course on CPU architecture, they will probably have you design a basic von neumann cpu in verilog, vhdl, bluespec, or something like that. You will walk away with a much stronger understanding of the inner workings of a computer and it may help you write faster code.
No.23415
>>23399Is this your game anon? I may try it out.
No.23434
>>11723for most retro systems up till maybe the SNES era? yeah probably
if you're doing DOS, C with the Open Watcom compiler is better
No.23445
>>23415yeah i made it with no talent/skill/experience in art, music, game design or programming
always wanted to just make something unified and big
No.23446
>>23445Looks like it has potential. I'll try and play it later. I don't usually play these kind of games. I played Omori for a little bit because the art looked kinda interesting and all the hype. I thought it was kind of meh even tho I played it for awhile. Not a tumblrista so I probably wasn't the target demo. Your game looks like it could be quirky and funny but can't really tell from the vid. Is the vid you? I thought all that like and subscribe shit at the beginning was serious until I went to the page and saw there was only one video. I think you were pretty funny and your delivery was excellent, but it was kind of too much shit up front when the reason I'm clicking the video is because I want to see what the game looks like.
No.23447
>>23446thx anon, honestly i wouldn't say my games anything like undertale or omori or whatever. haven't even played another rpg maker game before i was just making shit me and a friend saw in nightmares and dreams or whatever we thought would be a laugh
vid was voiced by a friend but i wrote the "script" LOL, ur probs right abt the vid, shitposted a little too hard which probably scared off some people
cheers anon, have a good one
No.24941
bumping this thread. still teaching myself blender
No.24947
>>24941set small goals for yourself
don't feel too small to take comissions you can always learn on the go and remember to always try to triangulate because apparently a lot of software requires triangulation, i still don't understand that myself but we'll get there.
No.25095
>>24948id be interested. Ultimately id like to make a workers cooperative game studio to make vidya, maybe sneak a few leftist themes in there like Disco Elysium
No.25099
>>25095i mean if CoD and other CIA backed games can get away with blatant anti-communism why can't we get away with blatant anti-capitalism?
we just need to make a good game, once i start moving i'll let ya'll know see what we can do.
No.25101
My favorite indie game developer has turned into a weird reactionary conspiracy theorist.
It's a shame because his game design lectures were really good.
Any recommendations for game devs who talk about game design theory in depth? And I don't mean like clueless essayists who talk about game design I mean people who have shipped a game.
No.25102
>>25099You'll just be like the Disco Elysium devs.
>Make good game>Get tons of buyers and awards>Have your IP stolen by a corporate entity and all your co-workers fired because it's more profitable to kill your entire team than to allow you to continue to produce subversive media No.25107
>>25095It sucks that to my memory Dead Cells does not contain much lefty themes despite being made by an anarcho-syndicalist coop.
No.25108
>>25102i'd stockpile guns and move into a guerrilla controlled zone with all my team first
we'd make games in our free time after we hoard grain for the day.
No.25111
>>25110i bought for cheap his Godot course on how to make a boomer shooter but i got bummed halfway through and i'm still stuck somewhere not doing anything besides looking at theory…
No.25117
>>25109Also do not forget the former Bayonetta voice actress being ousted as a TERF too.
No.25118
>>25117bruh so glad she's fucking out, being honest i'm not a huge fan of their voices
Bayonetta well, i'm not a huge fan of brits in general
and Dante tbh i miss the original Dante, i hope he comes back for DMC 6 instead
No.25120
>>25102yea, you can only do that shit if your group owns the private property so no one can push you off, in any other place you get purged.
No.25121
>>25118Didn't his current VA get canned after he got accused of sexual harassment and was a far right schizo? I know he was the voice of Ken too and there's another guy doing his voice in street fighter 6.
No.25122
>>25101Toady has officially shipped a game now.
>>25114harvest or reap
No.25123
>>25101Are you talking about the Domina guy? Yeah shame about him turning out to be a retard.
No.25125
>>25121he was deffending a sexual predator and crying over far right schizo points
yeah, that's why i stick with the classic one
No.25204
>>19533have you seen a team of classic mediocre game ?
its 30 (more like 40) ppl and 3-4 years of work (more like 5)
and thats basically will only make you few cups of tea in profits
if that was 3 preson they would likely develop it more than 100 years (you can do a simple calculation, although incorrect)
so yeah its a team work for anything that isn't tetris basically
No.25244
>>25204OK but tools have advanced. Blender allows average devs to make graphics equivalent to ~2000-2005 AAA games, stable diffusion AI allows instant texturing, game engines that port across desktop, mobile, and console engines, written in garbage collected languages, a bunch of free online assets and even more paid from asset stores, plus a bunch of video and written tutorials online. All this compared to the 80s/90s where making a video game meant you had to roll your own game engine and be a C++ master or read a 1200 page thick book written by japanese hardware engineers.
Being an indie game dev has literally never been easier.
No.25249
>>25244so what ?
also reqs. are also bumped so its draw (acually not, since modern content is much more hard to create than say NES)
with few devs you get Flare quality game (and its pretty much 3d tetris)
so that was constant, single or small team projects simply will never be popular apart from niche few projects
even those 30-40 ppl team firms/studios all went bankrupt because making yoba in unreal is more simple (just tweak whatever garbage you need and add homo/pedo/crappy content for boomers then it probably sells)
No.25369
surprised this thread doesn't mention pico-8 or puzzlescript
https://www.puzzlescript.nethttps://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.phplots of fun, and good places to "break in" to designing a game for the first time
No.25390
>>25369>PuzzleScript"Puzzle" is a bit too broad here. It's really a script for defining sokoban levels, although you can add your own art and storylines and play around a bit to create something akin to an old-school JRPG.
No.25403
>>25244>Being an indie game dev has literally never been easier.there's also never been more competition
No.25404
>>25403But video games are so wide open that it's not too hard to find a proper niche instead of chasing whatever the current popular trends are.
No.25405
>>25404I won't disagree that people should attack a niche rather than trying to emulate the AAA, but sadly a lot of indie devs do not have any imagination themselves.
No.25408
>>25369>>25407Any suggestions for someone with little to no artistic capabilities?
No.25410
>>25408IDK
video games are basically multimedia art so you're kind of fucked
No.25411
>>25408roguelike or text adventure
No.25412
>>25408spreadsheet simulators
No.25415
>>25414Inform and Twine are similar in that they let you create an interactive text storyline with puzzles and forking plots depending on decisions
They differ in that Inform prints out what the player is supposed to be experiencing, and lets them type out whatever their character's response is and try to interpret that
Twine is more basic, it just prints text with hyperlinks that the player clicks on to carry out an action
No.26479
Still at my trade game bullshit, since i posted the start a year go
in the likes of this gem i found in my dusted torrent folder
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/machiavelli-the-prince-2aj No.26668
Apparently a new version of Godot just dropped.
No.26669
>>26668Pretty based that they added Vulkan support.
No.26754
>>26668It's making me finally want to learn to gamedev, but I feel like all my ideas are too large in scale. It's hard to want to make a small project when all your favorites are these huge games that took a group of developers years to make.
No.26763
>>26754Maybe you should try work for a studio first?
No.26841
>>25249>also reqs. are also bumped so its draw (acually not, since modern content is much more hard to create than say NES)As someone who does low level coding on old hardware for sport: this actually isn't true. As the other anon pointed out, the development technology has matured to a point where you are helped tremendously along the way by the programming environment itself. (Not to mention the external resources being much more wide spread, more accessible, and much, MUCH more informative!)
What you, and others also, seem to conflate is making games and becoming rich off the hobby. That is not possible for everyone, but that goes for virtually every creative hobby (except maybe machining).
No.26854
>>26841>everyone can rich off machiningreal shit???
No.26887
>>26763This
Don't be an amateur
No.26890
>>26887More to the point, let someone else pay for you to learn the trade (if you can)
No.26891
>>26890Do you really think they're going to hire some random dude on the basis of him solely being an idea guy? At the very least he'd probably need a Computer Science or maybe some sort of Design degree, though that might be a stretch. But more than likely he'd need a portfolio to get hired in which case he's going to need to learn gamedev himself anyway.
Besides, even if they do hire him, they're not going to let the new guy create his dream game right off the bat.
My point here is, to everyone: just like make game.
No.26892
>>26891Well IDK how the business really works but does everyone involved in gamedev really have a full CS degree? Isn't there some entry level way to get in and learn on the job like QA?
No.26893
>>26892Well I'm not too versed on how the gamedev industry works either, I'm just sharing what I've gleamed from people who are, or at least claim to be.
You may be able to get in through a QA position I suppose, that I'm not sure about. But it'll probably take a while if you can.
No.26980
>>26894>My point here is, to everyone: just like make game.This.
>>26892Game developers tend to have bullshit degrees. Old hats used to have CS degrees (in the 80s, by the 90s it was already a rarity), and it's only relevant for engineering positions like engine or hardware developer; RnD.
>>26893QA is worthless for applying. Might get you a foot in the door at the specific place, but that's it.
No.27037
If I ever manage to move to a country where ADHD is recognized, and stimulants aren't illegal, so I can actually finish a game, I will make one with no white characters.
It won't be pointed out in game, or acknowledged at all. In all aspects it will be just like any other game.
Except there won't be whitoids in it.
No.27038
>>27037i'm sure people have already done that
No.27039
>>26894Wouldn't that actually subvert the genre because you would eventually run out of people to kill? At a certain point you can't help but halt the expansion the genre is built on. It could actually work as a deconstruction of the genre and the ideology tbh.
No.27041
>>27037Come to any country in fennoscandinavia, we can diagnose ADHD on a dead person
No.27042
>>27038Good, the more whitoid free games out there, the better.
>>27041Didn't you guys recently vote for a bunch of reactionaries and do a 180 on the whole welcoming brown people thing.
No.27050
>>27039Yeah I wasn't sure if the game should end once you hit 8 billion or if you should be able to advance onto other planets and universes.
I think though the game should start to freak out the more people you kill, kind of the way Cookie Clicker does but worse.
Ultimately it's a shitpost but I feel it may be challenging to make it correctly, more from a design aspect rather than a technical one.
No.27051
>>27042Idk, we still get brown people
No.27059
What is the easiest engine I could use to make the simplest game?
No.27065
>>27059easiest would be godot, you still need some basic understanding of programming but it's easy to setup and get working, and the development process is relatively fast for smaller projects
No.27071
>>27042That was Sweden. There was no 180, the migration policy was always strict just not as strict other yuroop countries. Clopped up reactionary claptrap, that was, and you are a retard for regurgitating it uncritically.
No.27120
>>27119>frozen synapse style real time tactical rpgreal time isn't the right word. the game will be turn based, but each character's turn is planned and executed simultaneously according to a priority queue rather than each character preforming their actions strictly serially.
No.27636
How do you break into gamedev? All of the job openings I've come across require either a compsci degree or experience.
No.27637
>>27059How do you even want to get into something but you're not even curious how it works
No.27704
>>27636If you want to get directly into the field without prior experience or education then they usually don't require too much of the testers, and those jobs can sometimes lead to actual developer jobs. But you should definitely at least be doing small scale gamedev experiments as a hobby if you want to get a job doing it.
No.27710
so i've stopped making games in recent years and have only tried using godot a few times, would joining a game jam be a good idea right now if i don't have a grasp on basic features of godot?
No.27726
>>27710I wouldn't do a game jam without knowing what tools you were planning to use and being able to use them. Maybe look up some public event to use as inspiration or a springboard to get you motivated to learn by doing. If you don't have a grasp on basic features your goal should be to learn those rather than trying to produce something. In that context a game jam could be useful to you by providing a prompt and structure (time limit mainly) to try to push yourself to learning/using features. But that's more appropriate if you are already kind of familiar with your tools.
There's a bunch of tutorials or Godot out there though, which are probably better if you're just unfamiliar with it.
https://godottutorials.com/courses No.28127
We need a realistic gardening simulator
No.28128
>>28127Would need to account for some pretty complicated stuff like fluid dynamics through porous materials for soil drainage.
No.28762
Any good resources on the software development process? Like software versioning and alpha and beta testing? I'm a complete noob when it comes to this.
No.28783
>>28762they mean whatever you want them to mean
earlier version release = lower version number
later version release = higher version number
alpha means features are being tested and added, beta means those features are being tested for bugs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle No.28789
>>28762Yeah usually the project or team figures out its own system for it, and how much you increase the version number just depends on what was added in the current update.
In addition to this
>>28783 you also do smaller increases in version depending on how much you change.
If you were on version 1.8.12 and you just release some bug fixes, then it could become 1.8.13.
If you added some new features it might become 1.9.0 or if you overhauled major systems maybe it becomes 2.0.0
No.28792
Have you seen this:
https://infinigen.org/ is an open-source thing that generates photo-realistic landscapes (arctic, forests, beach, underwater and more)
from scratch, meaning no pre-baked models nor pre-baked textures that repeat within a scene or across scenes. It also makes crummy animals apparently. (Is this part objectively worse programming or are humans just better at spotting the oddities with animals?)
No.28793
>>28792Animals have a lot more different poses than plants do so that's probably why the thing finds it harder
No.28803
>>27060love2d is a good alternative if you like lua
https://love2d.org/ No.28805
>>28792>>28793Animals also have a pretty specific body plan in most cases whereas plants very often do not. If you grow 10 of the same species of tree they will have different numbers of limbs and limbs in different places. If you have 10 bears they are all going to have very similar shapes and proportions.
No.30481
>>30474Year of the Godot game engine confirmed?
No.30532
I’m at a stage with my skills in linear algebra and calculus where I can use parametrics to define basic motion and physics in game development. What’s a good engine to use where I can put all those skills to use?
No.30533
>>30532Any. Physics is simple. Programming the trig for 3d is complex.
No.30534
>>30533Tan^-1(delta x/delta y) says otherwise mate. I need an engine that doesn’t run like complete shit(unreal)
No.30538
>>30535Tangent inverse, trig isn’t hard.
No.30567
Any good resources on how to write a game design document?
No.30572
Reject Unity and embrace Sega Genesis/Mega Drive game development
https://github.com/Stephane-D/SGDK No.31085
How do I learn to use vectors with video games? I’ve been studying math, from basic algebra, to integration, to completing Fourier alongside Taylor series, some stuff with parametric equations and now I’m doing vector math since I found those were some of the prerequisites for this very important aspect of game development. How do I use this field of linear algebra/parametrics for game development?
No.31101
>>31085I envy you. Always thought that svg would have a good place in weg games like - risk, nuclear detention or other modern world map stuff.
so maybe try svg with a canvas & js if its something in the web (which you can natively build to electron)
https://dev.to/mrlopis/creating-a-13kb-js-game-using-svg-5fjkyou could do stuff like
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1178220/ICBM/For 3D, you can use Babylon.js
Sadly, I dont know as much about other languages/native stuff like with c++ or C#
Imho, the best thing to have when writing a game is an idea you are motivated behind for months
No.31273
i dont expect anyon here to be able to develop this but it's criminal how bad the whole sports genre of vidya is right now. Every individual sport has been monopolized by one company and they put out horrible, micro transaction infected games. The justification I see for this state of affairs is that no one can afford to pay for licenses or something but I say just make the game about the sport itself without featuring any leagues or irl players or whatever. Im dying for an online basketball game that isn't made by 2k
No.31297
Some one help me out please, I have a 2d map that I am drawing pixel by pixel making all the calculations myself with the use of simple pixel draw functions. Now I want to rotate that map. How?
No.31300
>>31273Suppose you put in teams from a looong time ago, wouldn't that be in the public domain? Anyway, I agree you don't need real teams and an editor mode can be used to circumvent that.
>>31297Do you worry about pixel art becoming blurry and mushy? You can do a rotation with two shearing operations. This way, all the pixels of the original are conserved.
No.31814
I've made some progress to it. I'm using allegro5, which is a simple library for 2d game programming, and managed to get these orthographic 3d projections by messing arround with bitmaps. Planning on making an xcom like game were you go through a linear campaign, story wise I'm thinking about playing as a resitance movement trying to take over a city, and satisfy
>>31102 this thread. hopefully I will manage to finish the game. If anyone wants to provide some assets, some 16x16 texture sprites. would be cool
No.32175
>>31814> If anyone wants to provide some assets, some 16x16 texture spritesThere's a lot of free sprite libraries out there. If you aren't trying to sell the game you could just steal tile sheets from released games as well.
No.32209
>>290>especially since I'm interested to hear peoples' ideas on lefty-orientated videogames that would be cool for me to makeIf you're still working on a game then keep working, no need to stretch yourself thin between multiple projects.
No.32251
>>31814What would be the minimum requirements for the textures you require, in terms of colours and stuff that needs to be represented?
No.32303
>>32251non, just the size of 16 by 16, allegro uses full RGBA scale. Artistically, I don't have any concepts prepared yet, so feel free to create what ever you yourself would like to see.
No.33734
I can't program, so here is a free game idea: V A U S H simulator. Multiplayer only. Players take turns. You get a randomly selected picture (moldy bread, praying mantis, guy at dentist, etc.) and you have to say that this turns you on and give a passionate rant about how this is normal and healthy. Other players rate the speech, best speech wins.
No.34431
>>33734That would work better as a card based party game. You have topics on the cards and each player has a few in their hand. On their turn, they play a card to another player, who has to give the speech. Something like that.
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