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 No.16960

I’ll start:
Pan’s Labyrinth
Blade Runner
Starship Troopers
Alien
The Thing
The Matrix
Pirates of the Caribbean
Paths of Glory
The Devil’s Backbone
Return of the Living Dead
Robocop
Grave of the Fireflies
Princess Mononoke
Come and See
Children of Men
The Road
Mad Max
Fallout
Star Wars

 No.16961

Star Wars and its communist undertones is the theme of the week I see?

 No.16962

Avatar

 No.16963

>>16961
Its our equivalent of Harry Potter.

 No.16964

>>16960
how the fuck is blade runner communist?

 No.16965

>>16964
I mean it's pretty much saying late capitalism is shitty

But on the other hand, some generic 'capitalism not so good' message isn't that based really, it just commodifies resistance.

Wait, Star Wars? What the fuck? That isn't even anticapitalist

 No.16985

>Pirates of the Caribbean
Ok, I'm interested about this one. This is by far my favorite Disney saga (what other sagas do they have though?) so please elaborate.

 No.16986

>>16965
>Capitalism = bad
<communist
Liberals has been saying it for years. But their grift is that it’s just not their brand of capitalism with a human face not to overthrow capitalism itself.

 No.16987


 No.16988

the purge

 No.16989

>>16960 You forgot Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.

 No.16992

>Star Wars is communist
>literally about a movement to restore a corrupt bourgeois republic

 No.16993

>>16960
>Grave of the Fireflies
Explain yourself please. That whole movie is shilling sympathy tears for a family of fascist. It obviously does a great job of illuminating the horrors of war and de-glorifiying it. But if it were really communist I think maybe it would want to touch on why Japan or their pals for that matter were getting fire bombed to start with. Miyazaki may be somewhat of a leftist himself, but Grave of the Fireflies is like the least commie movie ever.

 No.16998

>>16987
oh god, imagine if they actually made a fallout movie

someone is probably trying to get that project off the ground as we speak

 No.16999

>>16993
I mean yeah maybe there could/should be a movie about the Rape of Nanking but that doesn't mean the a-bombings weren't horrific crimes against humanity

 No.17000

>>16985
The heroes are pirates and the villains are usually the crown.

The third movie has them do a pirate version of the international and resist colonialism driven by the East India Trading Company in a very thinly disguised metaphor for anti-imperialism. The main villain of 2 and 3 (and retroactively 1 to a degree) spends practically all his screentime explaining how capitalism is evil/inevitable/all-consuming. His catchphrase is literally "It's nothing personal, just good business," which he says every time he backstabs someone (which is often). 3 also opens with holocaust-tier imagery paired with the union jack being obscured by the company's flag in the most obvious symbolism of all time (vid related). I'm kind of shocked Disney allowed this movie to do what it did, but the previous film was only like the third film ever to gross a billion dollars at release.

 No.17003

good thread but people need to explain at least in a sentence what they mean by communist

Like this >>16989
WTF, are you memeing or for real?

 No.17004

>>17000
>but the previous film was only like the third film ever to gross a billion dollars at release.

In this Essay I will explain why the Pirates of the Carribean film franchise is the reason for the boom in online leftism (part 1/56)

 No.17005

>>17004
There's a lag of ten years on that effect lol.

 No.17006

>>17005
The communism was hibernating, incubating, marinating inside their young minds ANON!

 No.17009

The Godfather II
Coppola has said it’s more of a critique on capitalism using the mob as a metaphor than a mob movie

 No.17010

>>16998
Ironically enough It’s gonna be full blown anti Chinese propaganda

 No.17011

>>17010
It seems like first world Maoists love Fallout.eristocracyΈριστοκρατία

 No.17012

>>17011
Maotists love anything that shits on China

 No.17013

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>>17000
>that poor kid covered in dirt (metaphor for unweatlhy) looks like he has braces
Now that's just lazy.

 No.17014

>>17003
inglorious basturds is LITERALL Y COmMUNIST and Django Unchained is a metaphor for white genocide juche

 No.17022

What about movies that are secretly fascist?

 No.17025

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>>17022
not so secret that movies like this are fascist but still

 No.17027

>Come and See
People don't realize that one's communist? How?

Also, not precisely communist, but it seems not many people realize the meaning behind They Live.

 No.17031

>>17027
TBF you can interpret They Live to be about de Joos if you want to

 No.17032

>>17031
Yeah, that's what righoids say, even though the director specifically said it's not about that.

 No.17037

>>17026
It’s literally class collaboration propaganda, even fucking Family Guy pointed this out

 No.17043

>>17037
Class collaborationism isn't fascism lmao.

 No.17044

>>17043
t.succdem aka social fascist

 No.17045

>>17044
>muh boogeyman
Class collaboration is a component of fascism sure, but it isn't fascism in an of itself, that's an incredibly naïve and undialectical view of what fascism is and how it operates. That's on the same level as claiming a nation is socialist is socialist if it nationalizes some of its industry.

 No.17063

>>17045
hard cope, succdem

 No.17067

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>>17044
Define 'fascism'.

 No.17069

>>17067
Social democracy without the mask

 No.17081

>>17063
apparently having an understanding of fascism and class collaborationism that isn't meme-tier makes you a "succdem" nowadays.

 No.17090

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Logan's Run
the burgie utopia that they're showing is actually antiutopian

 No.17099

>>17081
The material understanding of fascism is that it’s capital in distress and to defend itself it uses class collaboration among other things.
Anything else is just “fascism is when the government does mean things” lib screeching

 No.17100

>>17099
>The material understanding of fascism is that it’s capital in distress and to defend itself it uses class collaboration among other things
>among other things
It's almost as if that was the entire point of my post you drooling fucking retard.

 No.17101

It's a video game, but MOTHER 3

>>17026

What was it?

 No.17104

>>17100
Your writing skills are so terrible you came off as an anarkid soylent consumer. Try again next time

 No.17110

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>>17104
>Your writing skills are so terrible you came off as an anarkid soylent consumer. Try again next time

 No.17177

>>16960
Explain how The Thing is communist. Aside from it being directed by John Carpenter, who did They Live

 No.17286

>>17177
Mark Fisher said the alien was neoliberalism

 No.18188

>>17022
how is metropolis fascist?

 No.18195

>>16960
>Starship Troopers
I mean, it's a parody of fascism, but that does not make it communist.
>Blade Runner
>Matrix
Those things are more like techno-accelerationist Nick Land type of stuff, can be communist, but isn't necessarily. Also, very implicit Zionism in the Matrix triology.
>Alien
How? Because of big evil corporation?
>The Thing
Might as well, John Carpenter is a crypto-Marxist.
>Pirates of the Caribbean
Fuck no.
>Return of the Living Dead
I agree.
>Come and See
>secretely
Literally made by the Soviet Union, lol.
>Children of Men
Yes.
>The Road
>Mad Max
No.
>Star Wars
Literally knights and princesses as the good guys in a "Republic".

Here is my pick:
>The Last Emperor
Bernando Bertolucci was a Marxist and the movie portrays the transformation of Emperor Puyi to a common gardener.

 No.18200


 No.18201

>>16993
That a very anti-materialist understanding of Grave of the Fireflies. You think every nazi soldier and government official and their families were executed in the GDR? Victims of propaganda are still victims.

 No.19327

I'm gonna uniornically add Salo to the list

 No.19328

>>18195
>>Alien
>>How? Because of big evil corporation?
I think the Alien is a metaphor for neoliberalism in it that it's an non-human and anti-human encroachment from the inside that seeks to hollow out everything(i.e. the ship)

 No.19329

>>18195
>Literally knights and princesses as the good guys in a "Republic".
shallow understanding of the films

 No.19563

>>16961
Neo libs took over the new republic and betrayed the movement.

 No.19579


 No.19581

>>18195
>Also, very implicit Zionism in the Matrix triology.
>implicit
The human capital city is literally named Zion lmao

 No.19586

>>19563
Literally this is the whole point ,the antifascist ressistance was sabotaged by the lib goverment

 No.19587

>>19586
Although realistically the opposite will happen

 No.19588

>>19563
This, the centrist libs in the capital banned the antifascist ressistance ,although it makes no sense for the new order to win

 No.19593

>>16960

The Matrix isn't communist.

Children of Men is not communist, it is just anti-immigration and anti-fascism. Its antifa the movie.

Robocop just criticizes the police and privatization but not capitalism.

Pirates of the Caribbean is libertarian hogwash

Star Wars is pro imperialist and pro capitalism.

 No.19595

Star Trek: First Contact

 No.19808

>>19593
>Children of Men is anti-immigration
How? It's literally pro open borders.

 No.19811

>>19593
>Star Wars is pro imperialist and pro capitalism
LOL the entire plot of the original series is the struggle against a fascistic empire and the scumminess of merchants is also displayed. The Ewoks are literally based off the Viet Cong. The prequels are specifically detailing the fall of republican democracy into fascism and referring to the United States, Rome and Nazi Germany as their inspiration for this. See the Star Wars thread >>2737
>Pirates of the Caribbean is libertarian
Fucking how, the story isn't about free trade or some shit, the true antagonist of the 2nd and 3rd films is a British Imperialist Lord that seeks to control the sea literally to boost the British Empire. Jack Sparrow is merely a man hat, after having saved slaves from a slave as a youth, decided to live a life of freedom, living and enjoying life, going and doing whatever he wanted. That's more anarchist than anything you're saying.
>Robocop
The entire film exposes corporations and so capitalism as being filthy hypocritical and selfish, and this is further seen in the satirical advertisements that are shown, the second film expands on it even more.

 No.19812

>>19811
>the true antagonist of the 2nd and 3rd films is a British Imperialist Lord that seeks to control the sea literally to boost the British Empire.
His role has more to do with being a merchant than a lord (which IIRC was only a recently attained status by the time of the movies), and given the time period (1720s, i.e. post English Revolution) he seems more like a bourgeois who just has the title.
> Jack Sparrow is merely a man hat, after having saved slaves from a slave as a youth, decided to live a life of freedom
The scene where it's revealed he freed slaves was deleted and not necessarily canon. It also strongly implies that freeing slaves is what got him branded a pirate, forcing him into that life rather than causing him to choose it. The scene was cut for removing a lot of the moral ambiguity from his character and making him less interesting.

 No.19814

>>19811
Yes these films acknowledge capitalism, imperialism, etc as the big bad however, they never show a world where it is overcome. At least the implication here is that it's inevitable.

 No.19816

>>19812
>more like a bourgeois who just has the title
True, my point is that regardless he's not a positive figure and is a representation of capitalism and colonialism.
>slaver scene cut
It's still heavily implied (100 souls sacrificed in return for 100 souls saved) and Jack is implied to have known he'd be forced into piracy by his action and chose it willingly.

>>19814
True, but I'm not OP, I merely pointed out that calling these films pro-capitalist or imperialist is bullshit.

 No.19822

>>16960
>Once Upon a Time in the West
Very red film. The screenplay was cowritten by a Marxist.
All the Sergio Leone westerns are dripping with anti-capitalism, but this one is the best film, and the most political.

 No.19894

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>>16960
Air Force One if you see Radek as the good guy trying to save the Soviet Union from American market imperialism.

 No.19895

>>19894
That's more a post to go on the Dindu Nuffin thread >>6555

 No.22205

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>>19593
The Matrix is an anarchist critique of Marxism-Leninism.
Humans live in a communist society, ruled over by a benevolent machine party-state. The law of value is abolished, the humans contribute according to their ability (body heat and electricity) and receive according to their need (nutrients + the simulated dreamworld). It's outright stated that only reason the Matrix isn't a paradise is that the human mind wouldn't accept a perfect world, so they had to make it 90s-styled instead.

The human protagonists are individualist anarchists who are nonetheless discontented with the hierarchical machine-state, and the sequels are all about them trying to set up their own autonomous commune-city and survive the machines trying to Kronstadt them.

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>>22205
>flesh and machine living in a mutually beneficial arrangement
>some heretical wreckers come along and ruins things
>get rightfully hunted down for it

 No.22233

>>19593
George Lucas literally said that the Empire is America in the 60s-70s.

 No.22251

La dolce vita


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