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>>2527642Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet >>2529136First comment as it should always be. You are back.
I'm genuinely interested in how the rest of Trump's presidency is going to play out. He went mask off in ways he never did in his first term that makes me wonder what kind of political fallout he's going to have later in his term. Also with him talking about how much he's not going to heaven I wonder if he's going to make it to the end of his 4 years?
>>2529170shove it in your ass
>>2529170If you give me some I'll kiss you on the lips, or I won't kiss you on the lips depending if you'd like it or not.
>>2529151>went mask off in ways he never did in his first term that makes me wonder what kind of political fallout he's going to have later in his term.Well he hasn't been in office for a year and we're already heading into a recession, which will turn into a full blown crash when the ai bubble pops. So he, and by extension the Republicans, is going to be taking the blame for it.
>>2529190Somehow I can't see the Republicans taking the blame for it. They're very good at deflecting and the Democrats masochistically take everything.
Is video uploading busted again? There was some really funny video I wanted to share with you guys.
>>25291962028 is going to look like the 1856.
>>2529190>>2529196I don't think its sunk in yet that there won't be an election in 2028. At least not a legitimate one.
Pritzker is probably right that the point of Trump's national guard "raids" is just testing the waters to use them during election day for intimidating Democrats, raiding early voting centers, raiding his enemies' political rallies, etc.
Not that we should care since this is what America deserves, but it's odd people even on this site are still talking like 2028 will be remotely competitive.
>>2529170cringe, pigs are very intelligent creatures and you are fascist for thinking that enslaving and murdering them for your tastebuds is acceptable
>>2529151The good news is that Trump et al. are legitimately stupid and have short attention spans. So basically this admin is just going to be a series of events to give red meat to Fox News boomers but I don't think we'll reach Nazi Germany tier. But yeah things will just get progressively shittier and shittier
>>2529236where did Pritzker say this?
>>2529170before eating, did you remember to bow your head and thank Imperialism for your bountiful meal?
>>2529236>>2529254I think that Trump is going to fuck things up in such a way that the US is going to no longer be the dominant superpower, even if said transfer of power doesn't happen in Trump's time in office. A few countries switching from the USD to the Yuan is pretty much emblematic of what's going to come.
>>2529245To be honest I was a real picky kid so these days I try to be open to more culinary experiences. I love cooking. Shit, I even tried some entomophagy, mostly edible crickets. They honestly weren't that good, though.
Food's a joy. One of the things I love about California is that we've got so many cultures bringing their food here. You've got Mexican-Japanese fusion, you've got Cajun, you've got just about any kind of culinary delicacy you can think of.
Seriously anons, learn to cook. There's no better way to connect with people than over food.
>>2529262This video reminded me I need to sharpen the cleaver I use for cooking
revoke the right of theatre kids to protest tbqh
>>2529263Probably need to do the same myself.
I gotta say, there's probably nothing that unites people across cultures and nations more than a love of cooking. The moment we turned "sustenance" into "meals" is the moment we became human beings. No wonder Fascists are obsessed with "RAW" foods: raw meat, raw milk, raw everything. They want to deny humanity in favor of animalistic violence.
>>2529268Any time I'm talking with someone I've never met before my go to is always about food. If the person doesn't like talking about food at least a little bit then they're not interesting enough for me to talk to.
>>2529208I think only webms are working, not MP4s
>>2529279Quick question: what's your go-to type of food to make? Something you just love making and consider a privilege to cook?
'Cause to me, it's soups. When I was a kid my mom would make either Tortilla or Tortellini Soup, and it was some of the best goddamn food I'd ever have. Shitty day? Tortellini soup with some parm thrown on top. It'd cheer you right up. Something about a broth with a ton of ingredients in it, just saturating everything, it's just great. These days I tend to make Ramen for my soups, but I still enjoy making Tortellini soup on occasion.
>>2529290>Quick question: what's your go-to type of food to make? Something you just love making and consider a privilege to cook?I love pasta and sandwiches in general. Whether it's a stir fry, a philly cheese steak, or some kind of italian baked pasta. The combo of meat + carbs always does it for me.
>>2529290tomato soup and grilled cheese
>>2529296Man there's a Jewish Deli not too far from my house that makes these great Pastrami sandwiches, just pure wholesome cooking.
>>2529299You add anything to the tomato soup? 'Cause Orzo is a nice combo. I also like making grilled cheese with the Creamy Toscano we got at TJs, it's just a really fucking good cheese.
>>2529304>Man there's a Jewish Deli not too far from my house that makes these great Pastrami sandwiches, just pure wholesome cooking. I don't live near anything like that since I'm in appalachia, but in return there's a lot of good Italian joints and middle of nowhere diners that sell great food for much less than you'd get anywhere else.
>>2529166people are 0.1 less stupid right now
>cpusa anon
calm, mature, wholesome,
>felix
angrey, immature, asshole,
i know which one i like more
>>2529305Basil's a must, even if you just have some potted basil in your kitchen. Just something about the scent makes you feel good. My Uncle would make Pesto Pasta all the time that I'd fucking die for.
>>2529306Those folks that run diners in the middle of nowhere have a kind of cooking skill that's unmatched. People think "complexity" is the way to go when simplicity goes way farther.
>>2529267He sounds like the "can I eat this" guy. Holy shit he is real.
>>2529313Townsends is kino. Tasting history with Max Miller is good too, check him out if you like historical recipes.
Any word on Trump's health?
Word on the street is, he's currently in the hospital.
>>2529321>word on the streetturd on the tweet
>>2529170No offense Comrade CPUSAnon, but the only thing Jews and Muslims get right in their Ultra-Reactionary Bourgeois Bronze Age Abrahamic Semitic Schizophrenia is their banning of the consumption of Pork, that they very accurately define as a unhealthy and unclean Meat (I would argue that Beef and Poultry also fall in this category) which is technically one more thing then the third case of Ultra-Reactionary Bourgeois Bronze Age Abrahamic Semitic Schizophrenia (ie. Christianity) gets right, and I am personally a Pescatarian, who subsists purely on Fish, Green Vegetables, Rice, Potatoes, Tea, Natural Organic Honey, and Dark Chocolate, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🐟🥦🍚🥔🫖🍵🍯☕️🚀☢️!
PORK IS BASED. FUCK THE PIGS
>>2529340I forgot to mention that I also eat lots of Fruit as well, especially Oranges, Bananas, and anything else with High Potassium, ✊😜🍊🍌!
>>2529340I don't really buy the "pork is unclean because they eat shit and human food waste" because so do vegetables. Plants have manure and compost in the soil beneath them. But we still eat them. Why does this "unclean" taboo only apply to pigs and not to plants? I think it's because humans get emotional when they see a fellow mammal like a pig consuming gross stuff and think that consuming the pig will make them gross by proxy. Whereas they don't really "see" the plant or even mushroom subsisting off of the same stuff because it does so "invisibly" in a non-mammalian way, without physically eating and digesting it, but instead passively absorbing it through a system of roots or mycelium.
>>2529313>Those folks that run diners in the middle of nowhere have a kind of cooking skill that's unmatched. People think "complexity" is the way to go when simplicity goes way farther.100%, some of the best food I've ever eaten is from diners in the middle of nowhere that sell whole meals for under $10.
>>2529340>hey bro you're eating such unclean shit<*munches on microplastic infested fish that live in polluted shit water, commonly infected with parasites if not Tuna or farmed that's halfway rotten by the time it gets to the grocery store*That's not even against fish, I love fish, it's just that the second you start bleating "oh I only eat CLEAN food" you automatically out yourself as hypocrite. You can make any food sound unclean by moving the ball around, like pointing out what food group gets the most e. coli breakouts.
>>2529290Probably a tie between garbanzo soup, tinga de pollo and this thing where I just bake some tomatoes, blend them and simmer with onion, squash and a can of corn.
I'm trying to cook more for myself so I'm not just eating rice and beans when I eventually move out, but that probably won't be for awhile with Jdpon Don
The guy who "felt called to duty" to enlist for the invasion of Iraq then again for Afghanistan.
The guy who, not satisfied with having destroyed both places for the US/NATO, enlisted again but now with Blackwater as a local enforcer in Afghanistan.
The dude was literally posting about "being a communist" on reddit WHILE WORKING FOR THE BLACKWATER PMC IN AFGHANISTAN.
He's now doing the;
"Smol bean imperialist pigs just want free college/healthcare"https://xcancel.com/grahamformaine/status/1980400612790661222#m>The support from the VA literally saved my life. >You shouldn't have to go to Iraq, fight in a pointless war, and watch your friends die to get decent healthcare.It's hard to imagine the mental space that USAnos are in, to be this much of a
cuck and retain that shit-eating-grinned sense of worth that drives them from calamity to calamity. You really are a blight on the world.
>>2529432 (me)
USAnos → USAno leftists endorsing this guy
Like , obviously, he an assset and you are being mindfucked again. But to fall for ti so readily because he vomits the same empty promises you have been hearing since Reagan… IDK maybe you see being close to power, psyop or not as a better chance of actually extracting concessions for you because he already has the consent to do so.
>>2529432i'm not entirely sure what your argument is - are you saying hes a cia plant?
>>2529442FUCK YOU, CPUSA ANON IS BASED
>>2529196>they're very good at deflecting and the Democrats masochistically take everything.Thats why its extremely important to push the truth these are the same parties. The democrat's are the republican's gimp and when in power at best delay the worst aspect but still end up laying the legal groundwork.
>>2529432the American
ethos is so anti-communist, anyone born America, since baby, all start a disgraced race to see who's the more anti-communist. the result is this rotten-to-the-core idea that you have to justify the most hideous things somehow, to present some bare minimum of
progressiveness.
>>2529365lmao
now, to the question
why do I always parrot everything the US state department says? easy: the US is in a
state of plutocracy of the worst kind, an oligarchy, an oligarchy state, basically meaning that the MSM owned by the bourgeois works for the
state.
by the way, that's something I like about our e-beggar dweller, his attempt to do media. revolutionary media. something so awfully needed in the US. it's a shame he doesn't have more local support, like people willing to do journalism or reports.
>>2529351>>2529340just cook the pork meat very well, and you are good to go.
>>2529432The guy is LITERALLY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO GO TO WAR WITH CHINA
LITERALLY HE WANTS YOU TO
DIE AGAINST CHINA ON A FUCKING BOAT >>2529457the fact that the line went up, it's because they got access to the financial markets, something Iraq didn't have with Saddam, and the US stopped bombing their infrastructure, like clinton did in the 90s.
>>2529460did he say that? oh shit, lol.
>>2529463What the fuck do you think "we need to increase our warship building to match china" and "we need to increase pay for soldiers" means?
>>2529466well, fuck me, that post doesn't mention any of that.
>>2529464Platner apologized for his reddit comments calling himself communist but not the fact that he killed people in Iraq and afghanistan. Is that your journey as well lmao
We really got to do something about the No Kings protests. The Democrats are using it as a stop gap for any actual resistance, and are attempting funnel people back to them. We need the youth, militant, and the revolutionary on the streets, and they’re not getting them on the streets. No Kings is hogging the streets for old liberal establishment boomers who turn feral at anyone who actually bothers to address the situation in full.
>>2529472There were young socialists on the streets where I was at. The problem is that we lack a unified message that openly and directly confronts the System.
>>2529190>Massive crash happens>Millions of MAGAts freaking out, disillusioned with American capitalist politics>CPUSA/APL/PSL/etc make a shitty twitter post about it>Nothing happensWithout a vanguard, what should be the most exciting time in US history is the most depressing.
Here's hoping the All-Union Worker's League goes somewhere, but I'm not sure about this whole Decolonialism shtick, especially the class reductionism present in replacing "working peoples" with "oppressed peoples" in their sole publication.
https://clarion.unity-struggle-unity.org/ >>2529480War on fascism is not only necessary but compulsory. The USA should never be isolationist like it was after fascist germany invaded poland
>>2529485I watched it, wasn't an apology
>>2529448>his attempt to do mediahe should really do tiktok or youtube shit if he wants to impact a large audience though
>>2529466>>2529474>>2529480Gonna be the devil's advocate here, you're trying to push this ship = war angle very hard while it's standard for any rival powers to try field a standing military capable of competing with the other if only for deterrence and dissuasion purposes (which are
peaceful ones). China has been closing the gap and by this point has a larger navy on the brink of passing and maybe even eclipsing the US one in terms of power projection and technology, it's pretty rational for nationalists to look at this situation and the dismal productive capacity of US shipyards and cringe a little without being all gung ho into a doing another world war in the pacific.
>>2529486He should apologize for those bitch tits. And the SS tattoo. And the warcrimes. And being a glowie.
By anheroing. Like right now. Right fucking now.
>>2529486Hey he is truly like you. In eternal denial of being wrong
>>2529477I know some were out there, but it’s still not to the numbers it should
We have multiple unifying messages already that do exactly that. Palestine, climate change, wealth inequality, the absolute state of everything. We’re drowning in messages related to all of that and more.
The problem now is a lack of resources and mobility for the people those unifying messages are for, and the opposition doing successful “counter revolts”.
>>2529491bg is a cringe retard
>>2529479 (me)
It's actually called the "All Empires Worker's League", whoops.
>>2529493>In eternal denial of being wrongcommunism is never wrong
>>2529498Houdini is a vet so you're in good company
>>2529499Reported for low quality by the way since it's clear you're baiting
>>2529498You are a fake communist. Real communists serve at least 3 terms and then one extra one with a corporate fascist kill squad. GTFO ultra!
>>2529501Thanks so much for letting us know
(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST) >>2529468>>2529485>I called myself communist>on the public internet????
>run for a public office position>people finds out<JK, I WAS ON AN UNTREATED PTSD DERIVED FROM 4 MILITARY DEPLOYMENTSare all my fellow burgerbros ITT also under an untreated PTSD?
>>2529494Those are issues, but not a general message - i.e., a program - which socialists can broadly rally around as a foundation from which to draw a clear line in the sand and demand changes. We do also lack organization and resources to carry out that message, true, but the core is lacking as well.
>>2529489Yeah dude the guy with a literal fucking Totenkopf tattoo who served in the fucking BLACKWATER PMC'S is just hekkin wholesomely advocating for dramatically expanding the Navy at a time when the warmongers are callling for war.
You're so beyond retarded that's almost fed bait.
>On Monday, most specialists who oversee the US nuclear stockpile at the National Nuclear Security Administration got furlough notices.
Up next why insane bloodlust for mountains of skulls of Chinese children and a room sized mural of piles of burning corpses is actually totally valid and normal
>Those are issues, but not a general message - i.e., a program
>which socialists can broadly rally around as a foundation from which to draw a clear line in the sand and demand changes.
God forbid we do even more messaging instead of actually doing something. The point is that these situations have already developed multiple general messages. “Stop the genocide”, “don’t let the capitalists kill the planet”, “don’t let the capitalist machine turn you into bonemeal”. And they have all been received well enough. And you can worry about a more defined program later when we actually have people out in action to look at it. Until then you’ll have to work with the unofficial general consensus.
>We do also lack organization and resources to carry out that message, true
I don’t need resources and organization to carry out any messages because they’re already delivered. I need resources for the proletariat in order to get the ball running, and I need organization to make sure the ball stays where we have directed it.
>but the core is lacking as well.
The core is perfectly fine. Better than ever even. I just need resources to start tapping into it.
>>2529524>China badrent free
>>2529536Why not just reply to me directly? I never said that we "shouldn't" engage in messaging, but that "only" doing so without any concrete demands to back them up is like pouring water with grains of sugar into a sieve and expecting it to stick.
>the unofficial general consensusAuthoritarian-adjacent neoliberalism and fascism-adjacent authoritarianism, you mean.
>I don’t need resources and organization to carry out any messages because they’re already delivered.Clearly not since many people still think "socialism is when the government does stuff".
>The core is perfectly fine. Better than ever even.Any number bigger than 0 is better, but that's still not enough.
>>2529532"Leftists", even the ones here hate China and would probably celebrate any military action taken against them by the United States.
>>2529543i mean you can't rly control who endorses you
>>2529432Does cpusa have declaration opposing him? If not cpusa is fascist confirmed 9000x
>>2529545Yes you can. You can just not do their bidding and they wont support you
>>2529539>Why not just reply to me directlyI just forgot the tag, that’s all.
>Authoritarian-adjacent neoliberalism and fascism-adjacent authoritarianismBoth of the parties that represent both of what you have just mentioned are in the negatives in approval ratings, and we have already won over the youth. I am not concerned about this in the slightest besides gathering the already existing opposition against both of them.
>Clearly not since many people still think "socialism is when the government does stuff".That is true. But we now have plenty of people who know otherwise. And we can get those people and more open minded people to actually start up something real.
>Any number bigger than 0 is betterIt’s not zero. We have a solid core to work with. Do not underestimate it to all of our peril.
>>2529543This is a misleading argument because we’re never getting healthcare no matter how many Bill Deblasios we get, the insurance industry is more powerful than politics, that’s part of why politics feels so useless and it’s incredibly easy to get nihilistic
If you wait long enough snd have a white flag, you’ll be able to surrender to the JDPON army, unlike the Israelis they won’t intentionally fire upon civilians surrendering to them
politics seems like an easy game to play. why are we letting dudes with deaths head tattoos represent the radical left. should be one of our guys
>>2529555We live in the bleeding heart of naziism, naziism is just Americanism applied to Europe
>>2529556not at all true but ok
>>2529558why is it burgerbrained to pursue legal methods
>>2529553But he literally has nazi tattoo. If you endorse the man who endorsed the man with nazi tattoo, then you are a fascist.
>>2529557It literally is, Hitler’s whole plan was to use Slavic lands for expansion to ease class conflict in an exact mirror of US westward expansion
>>2529552American politics is useless. This is what workers and peasants must realize to have revolution. You are a democrat who types words to distract from that fact
>>2529561Sometimes when you go to prison as a white you end up needing to join a peckerwood gang just to survive and end up with a lightning bolt or a swastika on you despite it not being your ideology, not that it applies here in his case
>>2529561All the comments are defending him and some even label themselves communist on their profiles. Scroll thru the replies. They attack those who say it's bad too
https://xcancel.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1980436997669061072#m >>2529563Revolution is not happening as long as TVs are broadcasting, we all have free hits of dopamine in our pockets, and there’s food in grocery stores
>>2529564Literally you, nazoid
>>2529575europe has race riots every weekend, they're the inheritors of nazism, not americans
>>2529577And Euro racists got all their shit from 19th century white Americans
>>2529580lol are you really blaming all of European racism on americans? aaahahahaha
>>2529578>NAFO tried to trick everyone into thinking this AI generated fake was "leader of Wagner"<fake news immediately died once Prigozhin started posting videoslol
>>2529561just cuz ppl who endorse zohran also endorse the nazi it doesn't mean they're both fascists, just that there's someone who believes they'll benefit from both
>>252958119th century Americans are The Ramones and modern Euros are all the punk bands afterwards
>>2529583If you’re an American you’re fascist by default
>>2529551>>2529454Hahaha yeah just saw this as well. It's hilarious that now all the "progressives", who definitely didn't get the call to do propaganda, and threw their hat on the ring for this guy… are gonna have to explain that he has a big ass Nazi tattoo on his chest.
>Uh, I just uh got drunk in 2008 Croatia during leave and chose the, uhh, "terrifying skull" and we all got Totemkopf matching tattoos.>But it's just like any other skull and crossbones, we just happpen to choose the specific Totemkopf waht the SS used and is commonly recognized among Nazis in lieu of Nazi swastikas or other more direct symbology what is not politically correct.And then he goes on to say that he joined the army, from the marines. And that he got screened and shhit for a "security clearance". As if getting the approval of the US government for being a Nazoid makes it any better
LMAOAnd THEN, continues trying to normalize his obvious Nazi tattoo by saying nobody cared or noticed when it's basically as close to the swastika as the SS lightning or the Sonnenrad or the various other SS units.
>DUH! Nobody cared you guys it's just a skull and bones like any other you guys.Nono, the army LOVES nnazoids like him, of that I'm sure. But nobody in the Democratic party, which is organizing a massive propaganda campaign for this guy, bothered to fucking screen his tattoos? Nobody asked him if there was something which could immediately tank his chances among the liberal left what they are herding so much?
/tinfoil
This is reaching levels of psyop, where I am now convinced Graham Platner is a Democrat wrecker OP to tank the credibility of left liberals after ordering them to shill for this guy.
>>2529583Zohran is a zionist. If you support Zohran, you are a zionist.
>>2529584meanwhile normies in northern ireland and the netherlands are beating the crap out of brown people and anyone that looks foreign. At the same time the majority of Americans disapproved of trumps handling of the LA protests. In terms of legacy, euros would like nothing better than to rekindle fascism
>>2529588are you talking about hasan?
>>2529590literally not true. u can criticize him for not being tough enough on zionism but to say that makes you a zionist is insane
>>2529592Those were all Unionists in the north of Ireland, who were already Settlers, this default racist, you don’t see people in nationalist neighborhoods harassing Filipino nurses
>>2529594no I got that, I mean the allegedly left liberal content figures you are talking about
>>2529595Endorsing the two state solution is an endorsement of zionism, two state solution is how liberal zionists are trying to save Israel from itself, from its own worst impulses
>>2529596cope, on avg euros are more racist than burgers
>>2529590why did the entirety of the establishment initially try to take him down and smear him? obviously now it's a bit different, he got the boss call from bernard
>>2529598man, he is running for New York mayor, it's not that closely related. sure he could crack down on protests, but I don't think that would go over well
>>2529595If you keep lowering the numbers of dead people in the holocaust by nazis while calling any resistance to nazis war criminals, that makes you a nazi.
>>2529586Not everyone you disagree with is a nazi, libshit.
>>2529606No, he is right. You are a fascist (and retarded).
>>2529603I am inclined to agree with you, but idk. on one hand, we can't outpace the proletariat, but on the other, taking a principled stance in support of armed resistance to genocide would be ideal. at best, he is stradling a difficult line, but on the other, it requires a degree of dishonesty one way or the other.
>>2529610Not everyone you disagree with is retarded, libshit.
>>2529598one-state secular solution is the correct one, but just because a mayor doesn't get super specific into the weeds on a foreign policy proposal that most aren't even aware of (it's been a long time since one state solution was spoken of in the MSM) doesn't necessarily mean he agrees with zionist clerical fascism
>>2529603You don't get it, entryism means you don't do anything political. You don't make political organizations. You build no power through electoralism or otherwise.
You wait for the liberals to provide you with political figures which, they tell you, secretly are on your side. But you mustn't imperil their cover by making any demands of them or participating of the political process in any way which may harm their careers. Because otherwise they won't be able to embed themselves with their secret agenda , and eventually petition the liberal state on your behalf.
Come on, get on the program. It's literally the same program every time.
Trust the plan. Commies are in control.
>>2529524>what are we?<COMMUNISTS>what do we do?<BE AGAINST STATE DEPARTMENT PROPAGANDA>except when we talk about Chynah!you are like the rightoids that say
>communism bad!<but China is communism!>n-n-no tha-tt it's capitalism!<well, can we have something like China in the US?>NOOO THAT'D BE COMMUNISM, and we only do our capitalism!but inverse:
>communism good!<and China is communism!>n-n-no tha-tt it's capitalism!<well, can we have something like China in the US?>NOOOOO THAT'D BE CAPITALISM, and we only do our capitalism! >>2529524It's true. By going to No Kings … or not going to No Kings … I'm doing nothing (because it doesn't matter either way) and therefore winning, which makes me kind of like Xi if you think about it dialectically.
>>2529631no offense but that just makes you a fat lazy retarded bastard. Shame on you
>>2529631very funny mister, but Xi does a whole lot actually! he is constantly winning, like charlie sheen
>>2529610>>2529614>>2529606this entire chat is why i dont treat this website seriously. Theres a lot of special people here
zohran status?
Oh wow so when I saw people saying Platner is a Nazi they weren't exaggerating that's straight up a totenkopf tattoo
why are tech companies building data centers all across the world instead of concentrating them in the us? isn't it kind of a security oversight? or are data centers not particularly important when it comes to sensitive data?
>>2529596Europeans actually thinking themselves better than the rest of humanity, exhibit 964,745,253
>>2529631You're actually better because you're doing nothing instead of trading with Israel
>>2529639some of them probably are, but I think it's the opposite: they are building datacenters here because they think it will be more secure. blue team seccels are retards
>>2529639big tech would like nothing better to centralize all the data in america but most countries require data collected from their citizens to stay inside the country
>>2529631>taking seriously the >Do nothing>win>memeChina is as internationalist as it gets. Next you'll say that DPRK is isolationist.
Both aren't doing doingnothism. they participate in active and proactive international orgs and institutions as much as they can.
>>2529645>China is as internationalist as it gets. Next you'll say that DPRK is isolationist.>Both aren't doing doingnothism. they participate in active and proactive international orgs and institutions as much as they can.lole, lmoa even
>>2529583you know, your argument kills the likes of >>2529578/>>2529591
like
>nazism is bad>except my state department nazism>that's okie dokie. >>2529644nvm apparently this isnt a thing
>>2529646what? are you really waiting in the US to receive weapons FROM China and the DPRK to overthrow the US government?
really? the country with most weapons per capita and the only place on earth where some places is harder to buy cigarettes than a gun?
what kind of internationalism do you expect China and the DPRK do?
>>2529639There are only so many spots with cheap space, available electricity/water and low labor costs.
>>2529642>>2529644i wonder why no one has ever attempted to fuck with one if they can be use to access important information
>>2529624The inverse you posted is an actually far more consistent position than the right wing one
>>2529657go to Qiao collective, they are very active in the US. then let me know if
>do nothingit's a motto.
>inb4 I am too lazy>B-BUT Chynah is the doingnothingdoers! >>2529659Joining the local liberal party (chinese) is tantamount to doing nothing
>>2529662>here, let me rephrase>I am not moving out of this chair and I will continue to accuse Chynah of doing nothing.I said inb4. the idea was that you either left the conversation or said something meaningful. thanks for proving you are not a communist.
>>2529655far more consistent in a inconsistent statement isn't consistent, still.
like, the idea of the first reasoning is how rightoid bugs are boxed into retrograde way of thinking. the same applies to the people on the "left" or self-identified communists that can't move past state department's
Chynah bad.
>>2529671> communism is good> China is capitalist,> therefore we should not seek to emulate China
Is consistent.
>>2529671>>2529675This is a USApol thread. The only thing we should be talking about is amerikkkan e-celebs gassing up nazis and how to advance social democracy for veterans
And probably pointing out that Platner is trying to get progressives on board with war with China
Treat Big Tech like Big Tobacco
The problem with TikTok and Facebook isn't their size
https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/treat-big-tech-like-big-tobacco>>2529457>US/NATO<he risked his life to build the productive forces in the global south"True socialism is the NWO of nazi globalist ideology that destroys hospitals and water facilities for Israel"
coincidentally, not a single Israeli citizen died in their war with Iraq that they psyoped American fascist NPCs into doing
>>2529588>This is reaching levels of psyop…Graham Platner is a Democrat wrecker OP to tank the credibility of left liberals"Its a conspiracy that my social democracy is the soy wing of fascism" typical conspiratorial mindset from cowardly social fascist rats who reject Marxist historical materialism and the primacy of proletarian class struggle
>>2529590>Zohran is a zionistHis own words demonstrate his ideology:
https://kalikoba.substack.com/p/annotating-zohran-mamdanis-zionist<notice a subtle rhetorical move that is employed here. Zohran says we must stop “war crimes” and “these atrocities.” Yet the only thing previously described by those terms was the Hamas attack on 10/7. Al-Aqsa Flood was described above as a “war crime,” and families were said to be torn apart by “these atrocities.” Never are these terms used to describe what the Zionists have done over the last two years<The vague gestures at “occupation and apartheid” mean nothing because we are not told what they mean. We get a whole paragraph whinging about Hamas, but “occupation and apartheid” are thrown away in a single sentence. >>2529541>"Leftists", even the ones here hate China and would probably celebrate any military action taken against them by the United Stateshere's a fun game to play with woke DSA neoliberals: say something like "North Koreans deserve dignity" and watch all the light of God fade out of their soulless, dead eyes.
leftypol will both say they want legal/illegal methods but start freaking out when the political game is played. revealing your power level in front of a camera is how you lose the game automatically
>>2529697What is the political play being played having a nazi tattoo or undercounting the numbers of dead palestinians by jewish supremacists
>>2529636>zohran status?I read a positive NYT profile of him the other day. I guess they want to butter him up now, because the New York Times treated him with such contempt during the primary.
Not much to say about it, but apparently his team credits being good at Instagram and YouTube for his primary win (or at least that's where they gained a lot of traction on the social media side), while they basically ignored X: Blaze Your Glory. The tone and format of the Instagram "reels" were better for them, or in terms of asking people to do something (like show up and canvas). I thought that was interesting because I've never used Instagram ever. People post pics of food and their pets on there? But it must have at least triple the number of users that X does.
Then I saw this NYT editor saying he couldn't understand the No Kings stuff or where it comes from because he spends all day on X. "The social media site run by a sycophantic Trump supporter that I scroll constantly suppresses pertinent information they don't want people to see. In unrelated news, why do all these anti-Trump protests come out of nowhere?" It reminds me that if you just follow one site as your source of the zeitgeist, you will probably get very little perspective coming from somewhere else, especially on a site that has very clearly jammed the algorithms far to the right, so even if you don't follow any right-wing person, your feed will still get filled with randos who think a map of California that shows big swaths of red (mostly empty) land is a harbinger of a big Republican win in 2026.
Anyhow, I think of all media kind of like Vogue: 99% of it is ads for extremely expensive couture goods hardly anyone can afford, and pharmaceuticals for extremely specific medical conditions I don't have, and so forth. Punctuated by a few articles about topics that don't affect my life in any way whatsoever.
>>2529698unironically the centrist american voter wouldn't have a problem with either lol
>>2529675even
IF China were capitalist, it's much better than US capitalism. the latter is imperialist.
>>2529704>china isn't imperialistXD
>>2529704 Okay, but what does that have to do with the situation we are actually in? The government is not going to voluntarily change over power, unless you believe that we can somehow do entryism (lol) or electoralism where you openly rep the country the establishment is trying to go to war with separate from the main establishment without getting imprisoned for possible treason.
From a revolutionary standpoint, if we actually get that far and China is a capitalist system, why would we stop there? Revolt against capitalism, spend untold lives and labor so you can get….better run capitalism?
And even putting this aside, what do we gain aside from vaguely gesturing to how "a better system is possible", because the USA is not at all in a similar position: international financial debtor vs creditor for one, and following China's system of being the world's factory turns around and makes the two countries enemies in a more traditional imperial capital exporter sense.
>>2529715Also to assert the US is imperialist and that it's thus worse than Chinese systems, and that this can be resolved by the US "adopting" the Chinese system, is to rather argue that imperialism is a policy decision and not a stage of development, contrary to Lenin's thesis.
>>2529716China is doing imperialism?
>>2529312The fact that you prefer a polite fascist over an angry Marxist is pretty telling.
China is imperialist and if you don't believe it go ahead and look at what they're doing in countries like Ecuador.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>2529718Are you doing the narcissist’s prayer in this discussion?
>>2529721building schools and libraries for free? you fags are a joke
>>2529720felix is that you?
>>2529727No, they have a point, as peculiar as Felix is.
>>2529724schools and libraries are monopoly bourgeois
>>2529721came to /usapol/ to complain about china award
most subtle social chauvinist award
will never embrace revolutionary defeatism award
will always engage with imperialist intrigue award
I'm starting to think orange man and friends will be dumb enough to retroactively end birthright citizenship
>>2529734The State Department can be pushed left.
>>2529654yeah, think quadcopters
>>2529741Is that a parody lmao
Trump giving clemency to Diddy is so funny. Dude just is doing it for love of the game (molesting teenagers).
>>2529697Legal methods means helping workers with job training, not being a fascist
>>2529746I hate that we live in a reality where pedo solidarity exists, much less thriving
>>2529748legal methods means winning elections actually
>>2529750It means a lot of things, including building unions or mutual aid or winning elections.
>>2529675>>2529675In China, the system of exploitation has been abolished and the socialist transformation of private system of ownership is complete. The exploiting class, as a class, is eliminated. China is not capitalist
>>2529750Wrong. The elections are rigged. You are just a democrat who hates workers
>>2529753I made no argument one way or another
>>2529753either delusional or bot. they have hundreds of billionaires and have exploitation of labor power just as much as we do. the workers do not own the means of production any more than they do here.
>>2529754if it's rigged how did Zohran win
>>2529761Germany is more socialist than Chynah?!
So they're just not gonna reopen the government at all are they
>>2529773Praying they're doing this as a pretense for martial law or someshit, but it'll probably just end with bloo party giving up on healthcare and scolding transhumanistihumanists for something or the other.
>>2529773Inshallah that amerikkkan soldiers will never see another penny
>>2529716what does that post youre replying to or even your own post have to do with narcissism
>>2529778But even if they cave on that, and they would, there's still the matter of swearing in that one senator or whatever that'll give the Dems an edge on releasing the Epstein files. Which the Republicans are desperate to keep under wraps at any cost despite campaigning on them a year ago. So this could drag on for quite a while
>>2529768the democrats and aipac put their money and effort into backing Cuomo, clearly this shit ain't as rigged as you make it out to be. almost feels like an excuse
>According to an advisor to the Prime Minister of a U.S.-ally nation and one diplomatic source, “allied countries” have been briefed about a possible upcoming escalation in the Caribbean.
👀
>>2529724Chinese mining companies are chasing indigenous Ecuadorians off their land actually
Well boys, Bloodlines 2 is out. Will tell y'all if its good. Probably will be on that most of the day.
>>2529546First time seeing the Nazi tattoo on him, deeply disappointed. Its weird though 'cause I heard apparently he got in trouble for saying something like "real antifa shoot fascists". Seems to me like he might be deeply ideologically confused.
>>2529788Was China thinking about the long term survival of the world revolution when they decided to fund the mujahideen, Nicaraguan contras, the Marcos government, Pinochet and Hindutva fascists against communist revolutionary movements? Does the existence of the PRC really hinge on operating ports for Israel, selling weapons to the Sauds and displacing rural and indigenous communities in Latinx America and Africa for the sake of mining operations? Or is it all just a case of national OPPortunism we must never criticize because we all suffer from the original sin of not being Han Chinese and all our thoughts are carefully manipulated by the Imperial machinery?
>>2529836>indigenousblood and soil superstition
>>2529836>>2529843wow how convenient a person logged onto tor node to give you the most ridiculous response possible
>>2529841honestly did you even read the post you are replying to in its entirety because it seems like you missed the point
>>2529846Proletariat has no country. I can criticize China for their national OPPortunism all I want just like how I shit on AmeriKKKa constantly despite not being a gringoid.
>B-but it's off topic!Lmao cry harder and report me to the mods of it upsets you but I'm still in the right, the only thing worse than uncritically being a chauvinist is uncritically being a chauvinist for a country you don't even live in and heavily idealize. China is to lefty chuds what Japan is to rightoid chuds.
>>2529290I personally love to make chili with ground beef and a mixture of beans (A blending of Kidney, Black and Pinto Beans), carrots, celery, onions, stewed tomatoes, tomato paste, beef broth and some Serrano peppers and Habanero Peppers.
I also love making Tacos with ground beef with some taco seasoning/Achiote Paste mixed in and some serrano peppers and habanero peppers mixed in. It is so good.
>>2529853>Proletariat has no country. didn't dispute that
>I can criticize China for their national OPPortunism all I want just like how I shit on AmeriKKKa constantly despite not being a gringoid.Did you read the post and understand it before replying to it? the post you replied to wasn't chauvinist for china. it began by saying what china CLAIMS to be, and then said whether or not that it is true, it is besides the point. it was addressed specifically towards americans posting in /usapol/. the point is that there is no purposeful result for all this bitching and moaning about a country they don't live in.
Let's say everything you say about China is true. Let us begin by assuming you are correct about China. This is very charitable assumption. Even from that standpoint:. How is an American prole going to overthrow the Chinese bourgeoisie? There are only 2 mediums through which the American proletariat can wage war on the Chinese bourgeoisie:
1: The American military
2: The Chinese proletariat
If you wage war on the Chines bourgeoisie through the medium of the American military that is, by your own framework, just American social chauvinsim.
This leaves us only with option 2.
But none of you are engaging with option 2. You are going on an English speaking board, in a thread meant for Americans, to complain alongside other Americans about a country far away. This is a pattern of US social chauvinism.
If you were actually talking to Chinese proles about their conditions and encouraging them to overthrow their bourgeoisie, that would actually be productive, but you aren't doing that.
The only result of your activity here is unproductive at best, or social chauvinist at worst.
The post was addressed to
Americans' posting in /usapol/. If you are not American it wasn't addressed at you. If you are American, your duty is to establish a dictatorship of the proletariat in the USA. Only then will you have a real base of operations from which to wage war against the Chinese bourgeoisie.
And remember: THis entire post is written from YOUR perspective. It BEGINS by ASSUMING you are CORRECT. So even by your own logic, this kind of bitching about China is dumb, because it doesn't even have a target audience that can DO anything about it. The philosophers have interpreted the world. The point is to change it. The ruthless criticism should take the passenger's seat. The real movement should take the driver's seat.
The proletariat has no country, but when was the last time you asked a Chinese prole if they want help from American proles in overthrowing the revisionist CPC? (again, by your logic, beginning with your assumptions)
>>2529856Dick Cheney's back
>>2529721>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)holy based
>>2529859Been hoping to experiment with some Hot Ones sauces for Chili myself.
>>2529867Cheney is obviously Palpatine.
>>2529853>>2529866Y'know this kind of goes back to what I've said before about people on the Left loving "internationalism" in the abstract but it being so vague as to lead people to mutually contradictory interpretations of it and throwing the accusation of "not being true internationalists" at each other.
I'm not gonna pick a side in this fight, mind you. My experience with Chinese Comrades has been nothing but positive.
Is there a way you could deflate the AI bubble without crashing the entire economy?
>>2529785>>2529722China is doing imperialism?
>>2529901No. the entire thing with bubbles is they are driven by speculation. Speculation is people buying into stocks because they believe in the hype. Eventually big investors are going to pull out, causing those stocks to crash, and then all the small investors will pulll out late in order to minimize losses. This is what causes crashes. It is collective activity that is essentially unregulated and driven by self interest.
>>2529840Of course you play vampire, the game about survival at any cost where your very existence actively harms every living person around you. If you were just a little bit smarter you'd understand the irony of that, but alas you're as stupid as you are fascist.
>>2529901yes the only way the investment gamble works out is if AI gives productivity increases to the rest of the economy equal to the total value of silicon valley twice over
>President Donald Trump’s plan to double the size of the ICE workforce has met a foe more powerful than any activist group. It is decimating new recruits at the agency’s training academy in Georgia. It is the ICE personal-fitness test.
>More than a third have failed so far, four officials told me, impeding the agency’s plan to hire, train, and deploy 10,000 deportation officers by January. To pass, recruits must do 15 push-ups and 32 sit-ups, and run 1.5 miles in 14 minutes.
>“It’s pathetic,” one career ICE official told me, adding that before now, a typical class of 40 recruits had only a couple of candidates fail, because the screening process was more rigorous.
>>2529905you've posted this exact same copypasta b4
>>2529918The sad thing is the other Maine options are even worse than him. That's how fucked the Dems are.
>>2529922he's not a socdem tho, just a radlib
>>2529918I’m not saying it’s not there, but it kind of just looks like a dark smudge in that photo.
>>2529925i don't see anything rad
>>2529918>>2529930Nvm, he just confirmed it with a “hey, I just like skulls and crossbones” lel
>>2529932The Totenkopf is a symbol of political radicalism of some kind, I am sure.
>>2529856@Gork is this real
>Walmart Pauses Job Offers to Candidates Needing H-1B Visas
I just realized service workers are the most revolutionary class in america. in a service oriented economy imagine what could be accomplished with a general services strike. Oops no more treats
>>2529957unironically fast food and coffee shops will be the american Soviet equivalent, the meetinghouse for workers
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1980683790902010305Trump: "We have Darth Vader. You know Darth Vader, right? Darth Vader is a man who is sitting – is that Darth? Stand up please. Does everybody know – they call him Darth Vader, I call him a fine man. But he's cutting Democrat priorities and they're never gonna get them back."
>>2529968are you paid to advertise aaron rupar's tweets or something
>>2529968watch another movie
>>2529968>>2529974Between Vader and Hannibal Lector the president just keeps running into famous villains
>>2529974idk how to download x videos
>>2529971no
graham platner was revealed to be nazi. shock gasp. whoda thunk it
>>2529977use yt-dlp or just use an alternate front end like xcancel which should let you just download videos directly. anything is better than giving twitter revenue
>>2529978slowly but surely Iron Felix's strasserite allegations towards the whole Amerikan folk will be vindicated.
A heap of shit was dumped on the banner of Iron Felix, but the wind of history will mercilessly blow it all away.
>>2529978God forbid men have hobbies and get tattoos
>>2529918maybe he is just a big fan of death in june
>>2529983ok but i didnt vote for this blackwater cracker nor did I put him forward as a candidate
>>2530005you'll be collateral damage
>>2530003>an anonymous source>from "Jewish Insider"very reliable citation
>>2529988I never understood what those guys deal was
>>2530005can you tone the anti-white racism a little bit?
honkoid status?
I for one welcome our new mainer nazbol senator
>>2530016i'm part cracker, i can say cracker, it's my word, cracker
>>2530020prove it, post a pic of your SS tattoo.
>>2530025weird how we have a general that is always headed with pics of ukronazis but when you post a russian one it's suddenly not an argument
>>2529744No infact its pretty restrained given the actual eugenics and race science in the SV startup space.
>>2530025Would be believable if the Saint had a leftcom tattoo next to the SS one, bonus points for an anarchist trampstamp
>>2529741>euroids higher autism score than japs and chinksyeah no even by chuddy-statistics standards, this is booolshitt
>>2530032Do they control the state, the media and the military?
>>2529741>>2530033autism score is mostly bullshit anyway
>>2530032god forbid a slav man simps for the big German cock in between his factory shifts smh
>>2530032clearly western glowie funded and supported
>>2530032only taboritsky can save russia from putin
>>2530026you miss that the USA is the country actively trying to make both Russia and Ukraine even more Nazi
>>2530026compare the length of these two articles
Nazi collaborator monuments in Ukraine
https://archive.ph/tBrSaNazi collaborator monuments in Russia
https://archive.ph/EwLdV >>2530061a shocking amount of shartyfags are russians
"Patriots"win/thedonald rightarts believing Portland police is "antifa" lol(because of that
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1980551313655255137 )
For the record, a police officer who spoke to a Portland prosecutor in 2020 told him " “I don’t trust anything you do or say because you’re antifa.” The president of the local police union accused him of being “George Soros-backed.”"
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/16/portland-protests-prosecutor-police/>>2530075>Nazis flee to anonymous imageboardsThats literally true for most countries
>>2530098He's just an hindutva which is left wing btw because it's nationalism yes but from the global sout
>>2529978urgh just laser it off. It is not a big deal anyway.
>>2530124can't laser off his voluntary service in the modern day SS
>>2530098It's so funny that the discourse is about the symbol in a vacuum. Because of course what could it be about?
You can't just criticize the institution as a whole, that's still politically incorrect. So the only answer is that:
>Yes, there may be "bad apples" and this explains any unsavory things that may permeate the propaganda. >But also, being involved in the heinous actions of US empire, working for the heinous PMCs (which got the bad rep as a lightning-rod for the army in general) >AND having a Nazi tattoo,as many other soldiers do apparently>AND and Platner himself saying it wasn't a big deal for the army vetters who had no problem in hiring him to guard the ambassador for the State Department>…Is just no indication of anything, just nothing to see here. OR alternatively
>"Look the other way or at least, IDK, pinch your nose for the party because Nazi or not you OWE us loyalty." >Or, we will throw you to the Republicans>>2530124You know, the way I see it as an Euro, there is no fucking way that an actual socialist doing entryism(however cynical the scodem) would get anywhere close enough to power to implement those lofty agendas the "progressives" keep hiding behind. So I get it, your only chance of having ANY of the socdem concessions is voting for the liberal stooge and hoping that the Dems will unilaterally decide to give it when they need bipartisan support for doing atrocities or whatever.
So yeah pinch your nose, keep a stiff upper lip and so on. Get the bag.
the point of socialists winning mayoral and senatorial seats isn't to enact change but to spread socialist propaganda and help create an environment where revolutionary violence can better be applied
>>2530084patriots.win is such a goldmine
>>2530131I would just say I don't have the tattoo anymore and I removed it once learned what it meant lol. Who will prove he still has it? He does not need to take shirt off
>>2530151Imagine getting all this propaganda behind you, strategically calculating every bit of the message. Blasting your virtues through the party media. Having meetings and endorsements with other Dems and media people…
Who now have to explain that the dude they were glazing has the equivalent of a big ass Nazi Swastika tattooed on his chest.
And at no point in the process of building up this psyop candidate, somehow, did anybody bother to check for these sorts of skeletons that can't be handwaved away. Incredible stuff. Literally.
>>2529715my point generally is to counter people like
>>2529524 who obtusely will align with the state department narrative. you see, imperialism doesn't need you to be liked by you, or anyone really. it's ok with that. it needs people to hate whatever their enemies are.
>invade Cuba?Rightwingers:
<fuck yeah, let's destroy communismreactionary "Left-wingers":
<not my problem, not doing socialism>sanction Cuba?Rightwingers
<fuck yeah, let's destroy communismreactionary "Left-wingers":
<not my problem, not doing socialism>sanction Nicaragua?Rightwingers:
<fuck yeah, let's destroy communismreactionary "Left-wingers":
<not my problem, not doing socialism>Invading NicaraguaRightwingers:
<fuck yeah, let's destroy communismreactionary "Left-wingers":
<not my problem, not doing socialism>sanctioning Venezuela?Rightwingers:
<fuck yeah, let's destroy communismreactionary "Left-wingers":
<not my problem, not doing socialism>Invading Venezuela?Rightwingers:
<fuck yeah, let's destroy communismreactionary "Left-wingers":
<not my problem, not doing socialism>sanctioning Colombia (with Petro)Rightwingers:
<fuck yeah, let's destroy communismreactionary "Left-wingers":
<not my problem, not doing socialism>sanctioning ChinaRightwingers:
<fuck yeah, let's destroy communismreactionary "Left-wingers":
<not my problem, not doing socialism>sanctioning the DPRK?Rightwingers:
<fuck yeah, let's destroy communismreactionary "Left-wingers":
<not my problem, not doing socialismwhich aligns with the Vietnam and the Korean war shachtmanites and trotskyites, the sidney hooks, the norman podhoretzs (finally jumped ship and became neocon), arthur kiestlers, same useful idiots who said alqaeda was doing anti-imperialism, etc.
that's what I am arguing against.
>>2530173you make a lot of sense, but what if I spammed more ugly soyjak strawmen at you
>>2529918out of curiosity, and not to make it an /ISG/ thread, but has hasan piker criticized his? has he jumped out the ship? that's all.
>>2530010is the photo fake too? do you need someone with aryan blood to verify the tattoo is real?
its kinda funny that the USA "left" knew that graham platner did nazi shit but were fine with that. only when they found out he had a nazi tattoo did they have a problem
Actually he could have just said he's a Ukraine supporter
>>2530197>its kinda funny that the USA "left" knew that graham platner did nazi shit but were fine with that.A shitload of us were absolutely not fine with that and this is just an I told you so moment.
>>2530197What nazi shit did he done
>>2530197I was the one obsessively spamming here saying he sucks. I feel vindicated
>>2530197because to the USA left doing nazi shit is "defending freedom and democracy" only when you have le heckin unwholesome symbols on you is your TRVE intent revealed. A nazi tattoo is undeniable, while invading Iraq, Afghanistan, and being in Blackwater is just "business as usual" and being a "freedom and democracy" spreader against "Ba'athist tyrants" and "America hating extremists"
Maybe he will end up winning still by getting the groyper vote in maine
>>2530205tour of duty in afghanistan
tour of duty in iraq
blackwater merc in 2018
>>2530205Hes no worse than any millitary vetetan. Its either we elect him for senate or we get a fascist republican and never get healthcate.
>>2530206I knew he sucked but didn't spam about it because I thought it was obvious
shocked the uygha that was doing voluntary overtime in iraq and afghanistan, and worked for blackwater got a nazi tat
>>2530197>its kinda funny that the USA "left" knew that graham platner did nazi shit but were fine with that. only when they found out he had a nazi tattoo did they have a problemWell yeah because that Nazi shit is "foreign policy", it doesn't affect them! For them Platner only has kind words.
So if they know he's not a socialist (obviously) that only makes it better that PLatner is running on giving USAnos socdem concessions. Because what it means for Platner to be a glowie/military plant, Nazoid or not, is that
he has the blessings of the Dems and the deep state.
The establishment in the one speaking through Platner's mouth and sayingt:
>Hey, we need this dude specifically as Senator and we are willing to bribe you for it.So he *can* do it, he *has permission* to give them a bribe. And they love the bribe.
>>2530210>Hes no worse than any millitary vetetan
<Platner enlisted in the Marine Corps shortly after graduating from high school in 2003.[8] He attended the Marine Corps School of Infantry, then deployed to Iraq in 2005.[2] He served eight years in the military, including three combat tours in Iraq, in areas including Ramadi and Fallujah.[9] Asked why he served in the Iraq War after protesting it, Platner said, "I thought I could do some good. And I wanted to play soldier. I might have read too much Hemingway."[10]
<After four years in the military, Platner enrolled at George Washington University on a G.I. Bill scholarship.[8] Shortly after starting school, he enlisted in the Maryland Army National Guard and served an additional tour of duty in the war in Afghanistan.[11][12] He returned to Washington in 2011, resuming classes at GWU and working as a bartender at the Tune Inn on Capitol Hill.[13][14] From 2011 to 2016 he alternated between living in D.C. and military deployments, before withdrawing from GWU and returning to Maine in 2016 for treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder and other military-related injuries.[12][8][10][15]
<In 2018, Platner returned to Kabul, Afghanistan, for about six months as a State Department security contractor with Constellis, the private military company formerly known as Blackwater.[16][9][17] He returned to Maine the same year, saying he quickly grew more disillusioned with the military and what he called fraudulent funneling of taxpayer money to private defense companies.[11][8] >>2530213Im just tired of these Ultra third worldists doing everything they can to keep our wonderful social body from healthcare. We need to DO SOMETHING against this fascism, and felix screaming that Our Left are just nazis does anything but help. Im like a cuckold always being beaten
>>2530229I believe you graham. We can unite all classes together and take down the (((deep state)))
>>2530228I think if people want to call mamdani a Zionist I am allowed to criticize a literal nazi tattoo
I don't know who Graham Platner is but if Liberals and /r/politics Zionists are working this hard to get him canceled then he's probably a good dude and I will critically support anyone that makes libs mad.
>>2530227bruh
just find a candidate to nominate who isn't addicted to being a baby killer and doesn't have a nazi tattoo
it's not fucking hard
If he was in Croatia when he got this tattoo he should have at least respected their culture and got a Ustaše tattoo
watch his ratings go up after this lol
Since we're on the topic of the Iraq war I should point out that CPUSAs endorsed candidate Joe Biden is personally responsible for the war and used to brag that it could not have happened without his support. For once in his life, he was telling the truth.
>>2530256richard spencer switched from trump to biden for a reason
>>2530249The reality of American politics is if your candidate isn't a baby killer or a nazi or some other problematic trope they have no chance in politics. Being a bad person is literally a prerequisite to getting elected in this country and I wish Leftists understood this because we should either check out of electoral politics and stop getting involved or accept that you need to be a piece of shit and nominate dirtbags again.
Politics isn't for people with empathy.
>>2530248I'm of two minds about him. They already found his deleted social media and he's def not a nazi but the tattoo is a dumb enough move for me to think politics isnt for him
Also all troops are bastards. I have been telling you all this for literal years and you don't listen until reality hits you in the face once again. Platner is SANE for a baby killer. Most of them are much, much worse.
>>2530248Hillary Clinton made him get that tattoo to take him down
>>2530268>the tattoo is a dumb enough move for me to think politics isnt for himWhat politician doesn't do dumb shit? Especially military dudebros. Being able to say "I used to hold stupid beliefs but have grown past it" is a better show of humility than pretending you were always perfect and ideologically flawless since birth. Turning politics into a game of flinging mud at eachother and purity tests only benefits the wealthy who can afford to pay the media to not talk about the demons in their closet.
>>2530273Sorry bud I never got a nazi tattoo. That's beyond dumb shit
>>2530268He literally murdered innocent people for money in a war he knew was a lie. If you're of two minds about that, it's only because you're a fascist yourself.
Itt: supposed leftists defend a literal Nazi
I hate this country and I hate you all
>>2530273Also he never got this tattoo removed ever.
>>2530273he was a blackwater merc LESS THAN 10 YEARS AGO and STILL HAS THE TATTOO
you are either GULLIBLE or TRYING TO TRICK PEOPLE
>>2530285What's funny is he condemned his reddit account post and said he does not have those views anymore. Then when the tattoo thing came out he tried to learn on the reddit post history to say he has those views
>>2530274tbf this guy was a crayon eating marine, doing dumb shit is just par the course
The azov batallón changed their logo now we need to understand they grew as people - platner supporter
>>2530285I still don't even know who this guy is or what position he's running for because I kinda just don't care. I'm just arguing against the idea someone can't have had a change of heart about being a nazi or being a mercenary/soldier. Like, if you go to war and see that horrific shit and come back as a changed man, isn't that good? Shouldn't we encourage ex-military to be open about their regrets about serving?
>>2530289>he's just an smol bean crayon eating marine, he's just a dumb little smol beanoh so we should let him govern us
>>2530294He went back to serve 4 times as a gunner then he went to backwater. Abby Martin husband served 1 time
>>2530293this guy did this BEFORE fighting in Iraq and afghanistan and going on to be a blackwater mercanry? this glows so much
>>2530294Try to keep up anon, it's important, he's running for Main.
>>2530293>earned most likely to start a revolution lmao this guy is awesome
>>2530299I thought elections were rigged and politicians can't change anything
>>2530294HE WAS A BLACKWATER MERC IN 2018
THERE IS NO CHANGE OF HEART
HE IS A POLITICIAN TRICKING YOU
YOU ARE STUPID OR ACCOMPLICE
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
So I moved to Florida essentially with nothing to my name and a small amount of money each month made off a socialist magazine. Anarcho-communist magazine. Counterculture magazine, whatever you want to call it. Why Florida, especially when there's a strong current in places like the PNW? Especially when I already know people in the Seattle area? Maybe I'm an insane person but it seemed to me that there's a need for people like me in these spaces, and Florida is incredibly bleak. I'm talking poverty like I haven't seen since I was growing up in South Louisiana. There's essentially nothing here, what is here is ran through the churches.
I live in a motel, the cheapest motel in this town. I pay by the week. I basically have no material possessions, sold em all, lost em all in the move. The single homeless shelter in this city is ran via the churches, and it's always over capacity. Living in a motel means I'm on the stoop, and that's where people who are turned away from the shelter go. They post up on the motel stoop, unable to afford a room, needing somewhere safe to smoke a joe and avoid the police.
The other night, there was a woman, she was clearly fiending for a bag of that britney, her name could have been Britney. I'm chilling on the stoop, smoking the tiniest, littlest, the skimpiest little slut of a blunt, the weed? came from that same stoop, roaches gathered and repackaged. Stoop weed from those trapping out the motel. I'm reading Gramsci, skimming the prison notebooks. She asks me for a hit of the blunt, I let her smoke, least I can do. We get to chatting a bit, small talk. I notice she's gotta be at least 4, maybe 5 months pregnant. Still fiending for the dog food. She's talking about how she ain't ate that whole day. I believe it. I've got half a pizza, the pizza? someone in my collective bought it for me. I gave her the pizza, only had a slice of it myself but I knew she needed it more. Again, back to the Gramsci, she leaves with the pizza, and there's just a little weed left. I look down at the parking lot, it's caked in filth, black and mild tips, 305 menthol packs, all types of plastic debris and let's keep it a buck, used needles and other shit. Kids live in this motel, got a single mom with 2 kids having to leave em in this motel so she can hit her shifts. Can you imagine trying to explain to that woman that she actually benefits from imperialism? That she's not working class because the job is at a Circle K and not in a factory? The things I've been told and read online are simply not the lived reality of the masses.
So I'm smoking this pathetic little stoop weed blunt trying to read Gramsci, trying to get a bigger picture in my head of how to make actual change happen, to be the revolutionary I set out to be. But Britney shattered something in me that night. What good is theory to a crack baby? What good is me reading theory when the poverty that surrounds me, the poverty I live in and was born in and am so familiar with seems to be an immovable object. the best I could offer her was just that little bit of mutual aid, that pizza, that hit of the blunt. I told her about my magazine, the website, I knew she wouldn't look it up. She's a base head, she's got other priorities. But even if she did, is there anything that I've ever said that could impact her? That could make a difference? I sat with that for a while before coming to the realization that no, nothing I've done, said, no internet clout is going to change her conditions.
One small collective and one single revolutionary showing up in the pits of Florida, a deep red part of Florida, with limited resources and nothing but a will? Feels like pissing in the wind. Feels like an intellectualization of my inability to actualize legitimate change. All the while, I'm living in the same poverty, the same motel, the same pit.
The next day, I spoke to another person who lives at the motel, came to find out Britney is a regular, she's been tricking at that motel for a while now. This is why I move the way I do, it's not a intellectual exercise, nor it is it something to wait for. Every day without a revolution is another day of suffering for people like Britney. The majority of "the left", at least those I've interacted with online and offline, are highly disconnected from this poverty, these material conditions. I can't stand listening to talks about how there's either no working class in the USA at all, or how everyone here is a labor aristocrat, or how there's no revolutionary potential here, there's nothing to be done. These are all things that are said from a position of comfort. Did you know they've cut food stamps? I have a friend who makes 22k a year as a special needs teacher, 2 kids, she relies on food stamps, and those are gone now. Did you know they cut medicaid? Yeah her kids aren't going to have healthcare either. She's only 1 to 2 degrees removed from Britney.
Do you think this disconnect is caused by the wealth of those who act as spokespeople for a socialist program? Can someone who makes 70k a month relate to someone like Britney? Is your success as a revolutionary measured by your ability to make money on Patreon? Have we lost the plot entirely? Irregardless, there is work to be done, and it is so much work that I simply cannot give mental energy to those who have lost the optimism of their will. Those who have embraced a comfortable nihilism cannot be the face of revolution. The failures of the left to actualize change are to be placed on the left, on our people, it is our burden to bare, the attempts to shift the blame to those victimized by hyper capitalism, these attempts are falling on deaf ears.
"This pessimism is closely linked to the current situation in which our country finds itself; the situation explains it to a certain extent, but, of course, does not justify it. What difference would there be between us and the Socialist Party, between our will and the party’s tradition, if we also knew how to work and were only actively optimistic in periods when the cows were plump, when the situation was favorable? What difference would there be between us if we were only actively optimistic when the working masses advanced of their own accord, because of an impulse they could not fight, and the proletarian parties could take up a prime position and grab hold of the reins of their own accord?"
–Antonio Gramsci, Against Pessimism
>>2530299He can't be worse than "literal Mossad lobotomy victim turned into GoyGolem" John Fetterman
>>2530305No I very much care about defeating Capitalism, I don't care about some guy's ex-military past and shitty tattoos being used as ammo against him by Liberals because he's running to the Left of the Democrats and they need to dig up any kind of dirt they can to uh…stop Nazis from being elected…lmao.
>>2530306i don't want a nazoid blackwater merc having even a figurehead position in main, shove your bad faith arguments and goalpost movings up your ass
Bro if you are going to tell me the condemn IDF soldiers who are often timed drafted and I do condemn and hate them then I don't need to have sympathy or give leeway for a guy who went to serve 4x then went to blackwater all voluntarily
Seeing leftypol defending a literal, Totenkopf wearing Einsatzkommando is something that not even I thought I would ever see, and I know you're all crypto fascists here
>>2530309>He can't be worse than "literal Mossad lobotomy victim turned into GoyGolem" John Fettermandeath to fetterman death to platner death to you for making it a race to the bottom
alright great I guess we'll just let 77 year old lawyer Janet Mills win who'll be 84 by the time the senate term ends
>>2530315Why do you trust platner?
>>2530316I don't, I live by the simple rule that I want non-establiahment democrat and aipac candidates to lose, the opposition just so happens to be self described socialists like zohran and this stupid ass crayon eating marine that likes political violence and has a totempkapf tattoo
>>2530315AmeriKKKa in 2025: your choices are a literal Nazi or a geriatric career politician from an era when the decline was still being managed
>>2529974I dont even know if this AI anymore
establishment* typo
>>2530322You did not even know platner existed till a month ago. He just says nice things. You have no idea who he is or what he actually stands for
>>2530313it's literally 1 schizo and we're all shitting on him, and meanwhile you're looking at that schizo and projecting him onto everyone
>>2530327you know what they say about assumptions right
>IT'S JUST INK BRO!
Hahaha that's so funny and burger coded
The argument relies on the Burgerreich taboo on criticizing the military. Since he cannot be inherently a murderer, not even when literally signing with a PMC, as long as he does it for the USA. So really, for the average burger, the only bad thing is the PR on the ink alone. Because it cannot be a part of a bigger package of attitudes which is forbidden to acknowledge in polite politics.
This shit about the "optics" doesn't work on anyone who isn't a burger NPC.
Most people aren't raised to worship the troops because in most places there is no need to constantly justify all the war and destruction that the US/NATO does. You know why, burgers? Because most places do not actually get to do that!
It's only your shithole country and the periphery of NATO toadies, where you have to constantly hear about the greatness of mordering all around the globe.
>we have to vote for the guy with the nazi skull tattoo who was a black water merc because my favorite millionaire streamer said so! this is the real movement!
>>2530315There's a third option.
Shoot them both.
>>2530333weren't you in the armed forces?
>>2530314It's not a race to the bottom we can criticize (and vilify) this guy for having Nazis tattoos while all the while voting for him because it disrupts the Liberal agenda and gets a career Dem out of office.
>Best case scenario, Platner wins and isn't actually a Nazi and votes for genuine progressive policy>Worst case scenario, Platner loses and a 80 year old Democrat gets to vote to send more bombs to Israel>Second worst case scenario, Platner wins and is a Nazi and just gets replaced in the next election, but at least we got rid of the career DemocratLogically, I don't see why you would want Platner to lose if you're a Leftist unless you're okay with the status quo. Is he a bad person? Maybe? Probably? Who knows. But it's still good to unseat an incumbent.
>>2530330AMEN
THANK YOU
FUCK MY FELLOW BURGERS
I HATE THEM I HATE THEM
I UNIRONICALLY HATE THEM WITH EVERY PASSING DAY
AND BEING COLLATERAL DAMAGE IN GLOBAL REVENGE AGAINST THEM WOULD BE AN HONOR AND FINALLY BRING AN END TO MY SUFFERING
HURR DURR YOU MUST VOTE FOR NAZI TO STOP ZIONAZI IN IRRELEVANT NEW ENGLISH STATE
SHUT THE FUCK UP
SHUT THE FUCK UP
Also I don't think mamdani is comparable to platner because he has a super long social media history we can check going back years and he has been involved in politics for almost a decade if you research into him. Platner exploded on the scene suddenly and made all his social media accounts right when started race with no back history of any kind.
>>2530338>It's not a race to the bottomIT LITERALLY HAS BEEN A RACE TO THE BOTTOM MY ENTIRE LIFE
I WAS 16 WHEN OBAMA PROMISED TO END THE IRAQ WAR AND THEN BECAME THE DRONE STRIKE GUY
>>25303361 enlistment in the Louisiana National Guard. Never went overseas, bulk of my duty was spent rescueing people after hurricanes and floods. Completely different experience than other branches. Plus I got out early intentionally because I knew that shit was fucked.
I didn't do 4 combat tours and then become a black water merc lmao
>>2530340not being in politics all your life is a negative now?
>>2530343This is understandable. This is the situation of Abby Martin husband. He served one time then started pushing against wars super hard and has been doing so for years. He's a good guy.
>>2530346I got kicked out at 18 and only joined to avoid being on the street.
>>2530340Zohran is the same. The same people who support the nazi support zohran.
>>2530345We can verify mamdani views going years back is what I mean. He has a history. It could have been as a journalist or literally just Instagram person. At least you have something to go off of
>>2530173>you're actually a right-winger if you don't cheerlead on xitter for every little balkanized dictatorship I pretend to supportYeah okay buddy. If ᴉuᴉlossnW was around (does he know???) you'd be slobbing on his cock, calling him a "decolonial hero." This is nothing new and it's just a continuation of Lasallian nonsense.
>but you support the US empireHow am I "supporting" it? I'm supporting it the same way you supported China selling weapons to Duterte to go kill Maoists with, aka doing nothing. One of the based things Lenin did was go apeshit on the second international because they were obsessed with picking sides, like you're doing.
>>2530134Actually, Lenin in "Infantile Disorder" said the agenda for communists in developed nations is to pledge their votes for the left-wing bourgeois parties, and then somehow when their policies fail, it's supposed to convince everyone to become revolutionary communists (textbook Kautskyism, also that totally happened when the New Deal fell apart). Go read the chapter on what the UK is "supposed" to be doing, oh wait, twitch streamer addicts here can't read.
>>2530345Not being vetted is a problem especially when suddenly it's revealed you have a nazi tattoo
>>2530342Okay but is giving the Dems a monopoly on being the opposition worth it just to preserve our ideological purity?
Yes, we all know voting is useless for changing the system because the system is self-sustaining and will corrupt anyone you vote into office. But if we can vote a single politician out of office and replace them with a bag of dog feces, that is STILL WORTH DOING just to disrupt the status quo. Using voting to create chaos in the system is unironically better than expecting it to solve our problems. Creating power vacuums by removing career politicians from office is important. Replacing politically-competent agents of Capital with drooling retards with Nazi tattoos is GOOD.
>>2530351Zohran repudiated all of his phony socialist views when he master debated. Unless you suppose zohran apologize on behalf of the worker and peasants to the NYPD for calling them racist when he said he wouldnt defund them.
hello imperialist pigs, can you stop bombing latam please? thanks
What's the accelerationist choice for Maine? Just gamble and hope this guy really is a plant and runs things into the ground and isn't just a reformist?
>>2530338>we can criticize (and vilify) this guy for having Nazis tattoos while all the while voting for himnot in maine cracker. i will just """villify""" (rightly demolish) him for having a nazi tattoo and being a blackwater merc less than 10 years ago, thank you very much
>because it disrupts the Liberal agenda and gets a career Dem out of office.his career has been and will continue to be literal imperialism
>Logically, I don't see why you would want Platner to lose if you're a LeftistI'm not part of the left wing of capital. i want this government gone, not to replace the neoliberals in it with national "socialists"
>unless you're okay with the status quowhat's more status quo than actively participating in the two biggest imperialist invasions America has done this century?
> Is he a bad person? Maybe? Probably?is a soldier of fortune with a nazi tattoo a bad person? It is a mystery.
>Who knows. But it's still good to unseat an incumbent.unseat the bourgeoisie or gtfo of my face
>>2530308I'm $200 short on my room rent this week by the way. So any donations, even small ones, add up and are something I'm extremely grateful for.
You can send donations to:
https://www.paypal.me/jakobbrown2 i am ultra left when it comes to amerikkka and dengoid when it comes to everyone else. this will continue to be the case until the burger reich is ashes
>>2530358>I'm not part of the left wing of capital. i want this government gone, not to replace the neoliberals in it with national "socialists"My argument is that unseating incumbent career politicians with disruptive dudebros is actually a good path to getting rid of this government. The competency crisis in government is only accelerating and can only really benefit those of us who want it gone.
>>2530315Has Janet Mills done tours in the wars on terror? Does she have a nazi tattoo?
>>2530353yeah this was easily avoidable
>>2530356but nicolas chadvro is a dick tater doing evil drug boats and nayib bukele is just innocent demoratic leader with zero slave prisons or torture dungeons and javier millei is just a wholesome anarchist free market enjoyer who needs a direct injection of 20 billion from biggest government in hemisphere
Why the support now for lesser evil? People literally call AOC aocia and make fun of her all the time then I need to hop on platners dick? Naw bro
>>2530362lawyers are nazi tier
>>2530361not in maine. vote for your national soycialist all you want. he will prove to be just as bloodthirsty as your incumbent senile ziorat
>>2530366don't look up when Lenin went to school for and did for work
>>2530360Why can't all americans be like you?
>>2530370Miller is the next lenin confirmed
>>2530371Because they are retarded and do not listen to me no matter how much I beat them with my Remember This Stick (tm)
>>2530365I think the difference is we supported AOC when she was primarying a career Dem because getting rid of him was more important than whatever her views were. Now that shes been in office for nearly a decade we've grown to hate her, but at the time it was still the correct decision to support her primary challenge against that old fart.
It's the same case here I think. Platner's politics are kinda secondary to the fact he's disruptive of the Democratic establishment. If your goal truly is to "burn it all down" then you should support candidates that facilitate this. Making Dems uncomfortable and insecure in their positions, even if we don't like who replaces them.
>>2530367>he will prove to be just as bloodthirsty as your incumbent senile zioratI don't doubt that but I do doubt that he'll be as competent as the senile ziorat thats been in politics her entire life and probably has dozens of AIPAC handlers assigned directly to her.
>>2530376Did you vote for Kamala?
>>2530294I’m kinda of in the middle on this. IMO I think the dude is likely a glowop, wittingly or not. But I think it’s a good sign the ruling class is turning to these tactics. I also don’t think all vets are beyond redemption or even Nazis but you can’t having them as the face. If the guy had the decency to lazer that shit off, maybe the face of an outreach program. But as an electoral representative? Fuck no.
>>2530376>we supported AOCspeak for yourself and enjoy your infinite fell for it again awards
>>2530388what fucking redemption. he worked for blackwater less than 10 years ago
>>2530061ive seen more reactionary rhetoric come from russia flags on twitter tbh
>>2530390God forbid a man is a hustler
>>2530390Well, he doesn't work for them now, does he?
>>2530308get to the point with your writing. less meandering.
>>2530380Was Kamala disrupting the Capitalist system?
Fucking of course not retard.
>>2530390Like I said I think this guy is a glowop and works for the democrats so is likely a Nazi. So I’m just saying in the broader context. It’ll be up to an actually functioning communist party to vet people and create a unified narrative.
Taking this to the logical conclusion, if self described far leftists and socialists keep winning mayoral and congressional seats, the right will start running more radical rightist candidates in response, which will dramatically raise the temperature. the bourgeois might even attempt to foster an american hitler from these polarized elections, so long as leftists keep playing for power politics
Is there a "vooter" wojak (like the coomer wojak)?
>>2530397Neither is platner dumbass
>>2530394>seeing friends of his killed or whatever>or whateverbased Bernie
>>2530369the bottom right part of the image looks like chudjak
>>2530359how are your hot goth girls doing boss?
>>2530418I hope he gets gangraped by prostitutes
>>2530418drained maoists stay winning
>maine mentioned
there's a neonazi running for city council in bagnor too
maine anons, let's meet up and kiss. we gotta organize
>>2530399The cons are turning the temperature up regardless. It’s a moot point, of course extremist are taking front in center in politics. Shits getting pretty fucking extreme. I mean trump will prolly 86 Nancy and chuck the moment becomes convenient or when he needs to get the media off his back for a week.
>>2530418everything I hear about Mamdani lately makes me hate him even more
>>2530431trump is extreme but he's limited in how much support he gets because he's a product of elite society, something even maga acknowledges after the epstein thing proved it. he doesn't scare me. what scares me is a product of mass society, like hitler, that gets popular support because he can do things elite society wouldn't have the balls to do, like exterminating trans people
>>2530418based Sunni akhi ﷽
>>2530418Jihadist confirmed
>>2530438Damn that abraic text looks like a long stringy glob of cum, like when you get it between your fingers and start tweexing it like your spider man shooting web
>>2530413thanks
everyone ITT looks like that and says that
>>2530443you got it upside-down. the Russian mafia leaders got that taste from trump, who is the archetypical NYC bigcock millionaire of the 80s.
>>2530443these ornaments and statue would looks sick in a blend of granite, silver and marble.
gold looks ugly af, idk why people lose their shit over it
>>2530437It’s not trans peoples fault groceries and electric are through the roof. It’s not trans people on Epsteins list, it’s not trans people were giving $40 billion to all the time, our politicians aren’t pledging allegiance to trans people and passing laws making it illegal to criticize trans people. The elite are looking for a scape goat but I don’t think they’ll be able to muster a hitlerian mandate or even competently wield one if they got it. It would be a national embarrassment worst than Hitler, a shame we would have to cuck to forever. Even if the Hitlerites won they would still lose and sadly get millions to billions killed in their retard jerk off to death. But I don’t see them making it anywhere near that far.
>>2530446Even past the colour nothing ever looks clean in it, gold always looks rough. i don't get it at all either.
>>2530457bernie is right
the left-wing of the imperialist moloch needs a chud to balance out the chuds of the right-wing of the imperialist moloch
you do not want the imperialist moloch to become a one-party state, do you?
how will you voooote and exercise your democrackka rights?
>>2530460true
in that pic, the curves and edges look so fucking rough, even cheap plasticky Chinese stuff are smoother and more precise
and yeah, it looks like unhealthy piss
>>2530463very ironic that Emma Cringeland is saying this out of all people
>>2530465what's wrong with emma vigeland?
>"The right of a nation to kill a tyrant in case of necessity can no more be doubted than to hang a robber, or kill a flea." -John Adams
>>2530475further proof of my theory that all Americans are white supremacist strasserites, including the non-white minorities
im pretty sure Houdini has an SS totenkopf tattoo on his left ass cheek
>>2530475lmfao i didn't even see this before posting the infamous scout snipers image here
>>2530476i love how this retard pretends dog whistles aren't real and ignorance of a symbol's history is a good excuse for getting it permanently inked on your body. imagine the shitshow that would ensue if a politician had a hammer and sickle tat. it would be 1000x the shit platner is getting
>>2530457bernie would go much hard on him if it were a hamas tattoo or a hammer sickle tattoo
>>2530485>Haiti in the 1920sMost people don't even know this one happened and this guy is like "hell yeah I love raiding Haiti's national bank, murdering revolutionaries, and forcing thousands of Haitians into literally slavery under the supervision of the US marine corp."
is there no depths this piece of shit
won't sink to?
>>2530497glow on glow violence
>>2530228>>2530210>muh thirdworldist>expecting to have healthcare from a nazi>backed by a bunch of cowards, that refuse to jump off the shitlib ship the and neolibs.>Californian>caring for Maine.>>2530352
>you're actually a right-winger if you don't cheerlead on xitter for every little balkanized dictatorship I pretend to supportnot the thing conveyed. develop a little more that reading skill of yours.
>Yeah okay buddy. If ᴉuᴉlossnW was around (does he know???) you'd be slobbing on his cock, calling him a "decolonial hero."
>conflating people like Daniel Ortega with poo-ssolini.you are a stupid sandwich.
>How am I "supporting" it?by being cynic against it. by being not participating in anti-war protests or like everyone else, not creating discontent against the action of the US state.
>I'm supporting it the same way you supported China selling weapons to Duterte to go kill Maoists withwith what silly retard? China has sold at best 15 million dollars of small weapons to the Philippines.
that's like a fart for a country the size of the Philippines. Look how much the US has sold to the same 115 million country. the ones killing Maoists is the US weapons, with a country with US military bases.
>>2530418I was gonna say something but then I actually watched a clip and the New York Post did a sleight of hand here.
Legalization is not the same thing as decriminalization.
What Mamdani is advocating for here (not prosecuting prostitutes) is literally decriminalization.
>>2530446"people" don't, at least not to Trump's degree
Trump has obscenely bad taste even by rich retard standards
>>2530457He's right though
>>2530513my point exactly. damn it with the ultras, all radlibs.
>>2530515why are you promoting hasbara
>>2530475jfc…
is it
too coincident that anthony blinken recently joins a "progressive" think-tank, ned-funded, and in this period the US suddenly gets a "progressive nazi"?
>>2530521 (me)
>everything is decontextualized from its history. just move on, ok? btw I wonder if this desire to erase the past and pretend crimes never happened and "just move on bro" from the imperialist perspective has anything in common with past reactionary movements????????
>>2530525we'll have azov battalion operation paperclip 2.0 motherfuckers running for local gov soon
>>2530531you are literally promoting a hasbara campaign against an anti-zionist candidate
>>2530532>anti Zionist>served in the middle east 4 times than worked for blackwaterneck yourself zionist
>>2530537ok so how hard is it for progressives to find a candidate who is not an imperial soldier with jewkiller1488 tattoos? like it's not just a question of whether he knew or it's reasonable for the general populace to know. he's running for public office and people are bending over backward to not hold him to any kind of standard at all. and then the same people will complain that the representatives don't read the bills and are scientifically illiterate. if you are running for public office you should know better than to have a nazi tattoo, period end of story.
>>2530537>unfortunately Nazi iconography is not uncommon in the US militaryyeah no shit
>there are undoubtedly many who don't know the true meaning of these symbols.if they voluntarily join a military (no "i was drafted" excuse) that exclusively invades countries that didn't attack it first since WW2, and voluntarily slaughter civilians in those countries, while dehumanizing them, and just so happen to get tattoos that they "didn't know the meaning of!!!!" (LOL) from suggestion of their brothers-in-arms who also got these tattoos without knowing their meaning, and so on and so forth, with every last one of these grown ass men who voluntarily joined right wing imperialist death squads just being an innocent little smol beans with zero accountability or historical knowledge … what does that fucking tell you? WHAT DOES THAT FUCKING TELL YOU?
>>2530541yeah he's stupid for not getting rid of it beforehand and the takeaway here at least for me is how seemingly low the bar is when running candidates, a rev party should be fielding some of their own if the political climate allowed a totempkapf oyster farmer to get this far
>>2530549>yeah he's stupid for not getting rid of it beforehandhe didn't get rid of it beforehand because he is proud of it still and worked voluntarily as a soldier of fortune in erikkk prince's war crime factory as recently as 2018 you nincompoop. THIS IS WHAT AMERICA IS.
>>2530557you need to relax. finland just changed their air force logo which had a german swastika on it, europe has just as much of an issue as americans do
>>2530559the swastika on the finnish airforce has nothing to do with nazism
>>2530559>you need to relax.no. fuck you.
>. finland just changed their air force logo which had a german swastika on itI'm aware
> europe has just as much of an issue as americans dodo you think i'm european. I'm american. of course europe is also a problem. the USA spent decades making sure "ex-" fascists and their sympathizers stayed close to power there.
>>2530561doesn't matter, finland was axis in WW2, don't answer a post meant for me
>>2530566ok? finland isn't eastern europe so i don't get what you're trying to say here, it still has nothing to do with nazism
>>2530475>>2530489"Former" army boy was a chuddie. Wow! Who ever could have seen that coming?
>>2530576if the symbol in question predated the swastika as being a nazi or fascist symbol, and it never had anything to do with it (despite being an axis power), why would you change it? the soviets certainly could have asked them to as they had a lot of influence there, does having a swastika for any reason make you fascist?
what makes the finnish bourgeoise any less 'fascist' than the american bourgeoise? without being moralist
>>2530583no bourgeoisie is fascist, they are however, stranglers of the workers
>>2530581>does having a swastika for any reason make you fascist?one hundred percent yes
>>2530581>if the symbol in question predated the swastika as being a nazi or fascist symbol, and it never had anything to do with it (despite being an axis power), why would you change it?for the same reason that the bolsheviks stopped using the swastikas that were emblazoned on tsarist military uniforms they looted. You have moved the goalposts from defending platner's nazi tattoos to "wuddabout muh wholesome axis finland who kept using the swastika 60 years after they stopped being axis for some reason"
this isn't fooling anyone. fucking neck yourself
>>2530590that's an image of kalmyk soldiers, they were producing that well into the 30s
>>2530588consistent, but insane
>>2530594you need to keep repeating the lie that they were "found on looted tsarist uniforms" despite being produced in factories under soviet control, just concede maybe it isn't always fascist?
>exposing europes obsession with the German swastika is insane
and to think americans are getting flak for a totempampf marine lol
too many unironic feds here trying to get me to not vote for mamdani
>>2530602>it's definitely the same as nazism bro! every instance of a swastika no matter the context is basically the same as the nazis! you just have to understand it's all hitlerite!ok grandpa, off to the asylum
>>2530606my hitler particle detector is off the charts rn
>>2530600>you need to keep repeating the lie that they were "found on looted tsarist uniforms"pic rel is my source, taken from the same book as your original picture you posted to make (book also attached,) reminder btw that the original conversation was about platner who volunteered in an imperialist military to serve 4 tours of duty invading 2 countries that didn't attack the US getting nazi tattoos with nazi history and nazi context long after WW2
this is the context of the conversation that you are running from over and over. you brought up finland as a lame ass escape hatch here:
>>2530559>you need to relax. finland just changed their air force logo which had a german swastika on it, europe has just as much of an issue as americans dohere was my reply (which you ignored):
>>2530569<do you think i'm european. I'm american. of course europe is also a problem. the USA spent decades making sure "ex-" fascists and their sympathizers stayed close to power there.You are pretending the bolsheviks using looted tsarist uniforms with swastikas during a civil war is the same as finland keeping swastikas in their air force after WW2, the majority of which they were an axis power, only switching sides at the last minute to save face. all as a lame "gotcha" to distract from platner. who the fuck are you fooling dude. shut the fuck up. god damn.
>>2530609then you need to get it checked for falsely admitting hitlerium when it should instead be admitting "pedantarium", for pedants like myself
>>2530611they used it because they were buddhists, not because it was "inherited from the tsarist army" as you are implying
>>2530611you're confusing me with another poster silly guy
>>2530600>that's an image of kalmyk soldiers, they were producing that well into the 30shmm i wonder if they kept doing it for decades after WW2 like the finns did. i wonder when you're going to admit you only brought up the finns as an escape hatch to defend platner in the first place. i wonder when you're going to stop decontextualizing everything in a way that's very obvious for everyone. i wonder when you're going to stop selectively ignoring posts where I already debunked your bullshit.
>>2530614>you're confusing me with another poster silly guyoh how convenient, you get to ignore the source and everything else I posted because you weren't even the guy that brought up finland in the first place (allegedly) all to distract from platner.
fuck off
lmao this guy forgot to take his medicine
>>2530600>that's an image of kalmyk soldiers, they were producing that well into the 30sdid they keep doing it in the 50s
>>2530615you're going crazy because i never brought the finns up, i saw them being mentioned and noted the fact that symbol had literally nothing to do with nazism
>>2530618would it have mattered? they were doing it because the kalmyks were buddhists
>>2530613>they used it because they were buddhists, not because it was "inherited from the tsarist army" as you are implyingwhat does the pic say. i even highlighted it for you. BUT IT DOESNT MATTER ANYWAY BECAUSE THE FINNS KEPT USING IT AFTER WW2 AND SERVING AS AN AXIS POWER WHICH IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONTEXT THAN THE BOLSHEVIKS USING IT BEFORE WW2 DURING THE RUSSIAN CIVIL WAR. IT'S COMPLTELY IRRELEVANT COMPARED TO AXIS FINLAND USING SWASTIKAS AFTER WW2, AFTER WHICH THEY HAD A CERTAIN REPUTATION. IT'S EVEN MORE DIFFERENT THAN PLATNER'S BULLSHIT WHICH (THE ALLEGEDLY OTHER) ANON BROUGHT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE TO DISTRACT FROM PLATNER
YOU THINK YOU CAN KEEP DERAILING THE CONVERSATION FROM PLATNER WITH MY WUDDABOUT FINLAND, WUDDABOUT MUH BUDDHIST BOLSHEVIK SWASTIKAS BEFORE WW2
>>2530619you never brought the finns up but you specifically jumped into an ongoing conversation to make lame decontextualized talking points as the person who did.
>>2530622you need to stop pissing your pants over a fact that a symbol isn't always what it looks like
>>2530627the whole fucking reason finns were brought up in the first place was to defend platner
it was a lame ass gotcha in the first place
how many fucking times does this have to be explained to you. read the whole conversation dumbass.
>>2530628i did, and i don't care
>>2530628he just wanted to defend his precious white nazi nordic country that's all
>>2530634what the hell are you talking about?
>>2530630yeah i'm fucking pissed that you keep pretending bolshevik buddhists using a swastika before WW2 is the same as an axis power using it after WW2. that was the whole rhetorical reason it was brought up
>>2530631of course you don't care about the conversation or its context. you just jumped in for no reason whatsoever to take a specific side for no reason whatsoever. you had no idea what was going on, just like Platner when he got an nazi tat, apparently
>>2530635>what the hell are you talking about?stop playing dumb like platner
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>>2530639>>2530638i'm not playing dumb you just need to take your meds
>>2530561>the swastika on the finnish airforce has nothing to do with nazismIDK man, I think this guy's appropriation of the symbol just didn't take off (heh!) like the NSDAP version.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Air_Force#Insignia_of_the_Finnish_Air_Force_(1918%E2%80%931945)>Swedish count Eric von Rosen gave the Finnish White government its second aircraft, a Thulin Typ D.> Von Rosen, later one of the founding members of the Nationalsocialistiska Blocket ("National Socialist Bloc"), a Swedish National Socialist political party, and brother-in-law to Hermann Goering,[4][5] had painted his personal good-luck charm on the Thulin Type D aircraft. This logo—a blue swastika, the ancient symbol of the sun and of good luck, which was back then still used with non-political connotations—gave rise to the insignia of the Finnish Air Force. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_von_Rosen>Count Carl Gustaf Bloomfield Eric von Rosen (2 June 1879 in Stockholm – 25 April 1948 Skeppsholmen, Stockholm) was a Swedish honorary doctor, patron, explorer, ethnographer, prominent figure in the Swedish upper class and a leading figure in Sweden's own Nazi movement in the 1930s.
>[…]Von Rosen became brother-in-law to Hermann Göring when his wife's sister, Carin von Kantzow, married Göring.>[…]Göring had noted the swastika during his stay in Sweden and at von Rosens' castle (forged into a metal piece at the fireplace). However, the swastika of the German Nazi party had been adopted already in 1920, two years before Göring met Adolf Hitler.
>[…]Eric von Rosen had been using a swastika as a personal owner's mark. He originally saw the symbol on runestones in Gotland, while at school. Knowing that the symbol signified good luck for the Vikings, he utilized the symbol and had it carved into all his luggage when going on an expedition to South America in 1901.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_BlocIt just happens to have been given by a
Swedish Nazi appropriating the un-tilted version rather than the NSDAP version in Germany. So yes, the Finnish airforce swastika is of Nazi origin, just not *German* Nazi origin. He gave this plane, where the blue swastika in the Finnish airforce comes from, in 1918 in support of the whites.
>>2530642explain for the audience who brought the finns up in this conversation and why. what was the conversation leading up to that point. pretend for a single moment like you have a memory longer than 2 minutes.
>>2530643this guy has already received multiple sources and "doesn't care"
he is just trying to defend platner, and when that failed, denied he was even the same anon, and when that failed, started spewing little lame insults and pretending the conversation had no context.
>>2529788>The question of whether China is "Socialist" or "Capitalist" or "Imperialist" or "fascist" or whatever is entirely irrelevant How is it irrelevant to be able to know and identify wheter any country is capitalist/imperialist or not? If one who claims to be socialist keeps propping up another capitalist country by wrongly claiming that country as socialist all that does is create a completely fractured foundation for any movement and falls in line with flaccid reformism that will lead to nothing because the theoretical base of the party is built off of nothing since they cannot even identify what is and is not capitalist and what is or is not imperialist.
This is a very complex issue that stems from decades of revisionism. It does not fall into such simplified categorizing such as "China bad". This is less about China itself but the self proclaimed "comrades" who cheer for a country that has aided in the suppression of actual communist insurgencies by arming and supporting capitalist powers. What does that show of any movement bult on that kind of revisionist vulgar Marxism that cant even see capitalism if it hit them in the face? What can remotely arise (besides stupid memes and eternally online internet culture)? Great power chauvanism amoung faux leftists in thier bid to bow to foriegn capitalist powers or just undignified "third worldists" preaching defeatism devoid of any revolutionary fire and completely disconnected from the masses.
>>2530599Vigeland is connected to Agent Kochinski, Destiny, Ryan Grimm, HuffPo, and probably a fuckload more of these liberal cunts and orgs through the Congressional Progressive Caucus and it's associated CPC PAC.
somehow they're shitter than the DSA. the faction is falling apart in the face of aipac money but they're nominally pro-palestine.
I reckon they were courting Graham Platner by allocating funds out of the PAC and putting the word out to boost him. It would explain the solidarity that they're showing, and due to the laws governing PACs they couldn't do a sit down with the bloke to assess the vibes beforehand.
This is probably the exact same bullshit that caused the Fetterman debacle.
It's well past time to press bullshit artists like Vigeland, Seder, Binder et. al what the fuck their vague terms actually mean. You know the ones:
>Progressive>Radical>Leftist>Moderate>Anti-EstablishmentTheir definitions don't seem to align at all with definitions set by Marxists, Socialists, Communists, or Anarchists. They don't have a theory of change that's coherent or stable. Worst of all they fall for the same dumb ruses and wishful thinking over and over and sheepdog their audiences into doing likewise.
>>2530497Emma is the leftist who thinks big country of Bumfuckland invaded smaller country of Penistan 10,000 miles away from Unser Burgerreich, so our based military-industrial complex must arm Penistan with the Reich’s money. No wonder these ‘leftists’ podcast are more than tolerated, even welcomed by the Reich.
>>2530671Why did you run over the motorist
>>2530173<fuck yeah, let's destroy communismyes, right wingers see everything to the left of hitler as communist. which is why you do so.
>>2530463>>2530497She is right in thinking the American public are morons
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