>>2532113That shot of handful of money is a really nice touch.
REMINDER TO ALL LEFTCOMS, SUCCDEMS, CRYPTOLIBS AND ANARKIDDIES OF /leftypol/:
LENIN WON
STALIN WON
MAO WON
DENG WON
XI WON
EVEN FUCKING FIDEL WON
/USApol/ IS CURRENTLY TRYING TO RATIONALIZE VOOOOTING FOR A SERIAL KILLER BLACKWATER MERC WITH NAZI TATTOOS WHILE CHINA IS DEVELOPING THE THIRD WORLD AND CLEAN ENERGY TECHNOLOGY TO SAVE HUMANITY
WAKE THE FUCK UP, TAKE THE DENGPILL, TIME IS RUNNING OUT
>>2532420i'm shitting all over the platnercels but need backup
>>2532461I did it too during the last thread
I'm tired boss
>>2532113"dictatorship of the proletariat"
Nice joke
>>2532483Who has adequate public toilets?
>>2532483What would you know about dotp? Revolution in your country status?
>>2532491China: NONE
My country: NONE
About even
I never understood the tower of power. Aren't regular solar panels more efficient? What's the point of the mirrors and salt tower, is it just cheaper?
>>2532780I guess water, boiling is more universal and less technological?
>>2532789Looked it up and your AI is right, looks like it's the opposite. Powertowers are very expensive but more efficient
>>2532791It's Niche indeed. The good thing they have is they store energy for a few hours after sunset, acting like batteries
>>2532572>Mao didnt exist, thats just chyna propaganda you fucking chud!meds
>>2532789There is also a lot going on with sand thermal batteries.
I don't see why we couldn't just embed the tower directly in the sand battery.
>>2532899Mao was a national liberation fighter, not communist.
>>2532910>it wasnt real gommunism!!1!whatever you say, libtard
>>2532420Half the people you mentioned would have killed the other half.
>>2532920>would have political fiction is always irrelevant
>>2532923stalin would have shot deng
>>2532930This imaginary scenario provides no useful insight into the real world of the present.
>>2532780They say it can also keep producing at night (since it takes time for the sand to cool), idk for how long.
Eternal reminder
>China has objectively become the most promising hope and the best example for all Third World countries
Fidel Castro, 2004
>Xi Jinping is one of the strongest and most capable revolutionary leaders I have met in my life.
Fidel Castro, 2014
I will always trust Fidel, an official member of the real movement, over /USApol/ retards that have never organized in their life. Simple as.
>>2532938He most likely just hates anyone that isnt a soylent drinking westoid.
>>2532420wtf… based… but ancoms and leftcom aight tho
How hard is the chip supply shortage gonna hit
>>2533011where's the contradiction
>>2533019What part of classless, moneyless society don’t you understand?
>>2533022a dictatorship of the proletariat does not necessarily mean fully developed mature communism which you just described
China is a DOTP
>>2533019nowhere it's a banger screenshot
>>2533022Are you from /pol/ or something? What part of socialism as a process towards communism don't you understand?
>>2533021*yawn*
>>2533015Yeah some of them, the ones that understand that a leftcom/ancom position may make sense in the US or Europe but not for China.
>>2533021>entertainment>health>transportWheres defense?
>>2533022Cases of communism achieved in this planet:
>>2533028They’re not trying and never have because Mao was a con artist
>>2533036You could make this argument before the advent of modern computing, you can’t now, there’s literally no reason to have markets outside of the bourgeois having a stranglehold on politics
>>2533039It’s in the Amazon and the Andaman islands under threat from fascism as we speak
>>2533043>It’s in the Amazon and the Andaman islands under threat from fascism as we speakLol, primitive communism is something different.
>>2533022lol, fucking ultras will screech about anything short of falc
actually scratch that, Im sure even in falc theyd buy into the propaganda of their masters and find something to nitpick about
>>2533039there was possibly one instance communism among one congolese tribe that organized around nonhierarchial principles around the XIX century (the belgian boys cut all their hands because they were organic tools of communist development)
>>2533049Mao was a fraud and a pedophile who had his victory handed to him by the Soviet Union handing Manchuria to his army
>>2533053They copied the development model of Japan, South Korea, and Singapore
>>2533047If capitalist states headed by supposedly communist parties count so do uncontacted tribes
>>2533058Having a nuclear arsenal dumbfucj
>>2533055singapore yes. totally irrelevant however, I'd love to hear a more interesting argument
>>2533061The USSR didn't have nukes?
>>2533062They’re going to run into all the same problems Japan and SK have, both are dying societies that are working and drinking themselves to death, no one wants to have children there
>>2533043>there’s literally no reason to have markets outside of the bourgeois having a stranglehold on politicsYes there is, it works for developing the forces of production and changing the shape of global trade, taking hegemony away from the US, which is historically the number one enemy of socialism, via trade, without wars that just get proles killed.
Its an strategic postion that takes in count geopolitical realism and they say they will abandon it in 2050. I see no reason not to believe them.
>>2533074Planning is faster and more efficient at building productive forces, it would be even faster with an automated planning system, nor would this mean isolation from international trade
>>2533070The USSR suffered from an internal coup and a betrayed revolution, in China the betrayal already happened.
>>2533073Low birthrates are not specific to south korea and japan, the problem is most acute there because they've been industrialized the longest. Low birthrates have always been a global issue and not even the soviet union managed to solve it. That means huge societal change is needed to solve this existential issue and China is the only country right now ideologically capable of making that transition. there are only two paths that solve low birthrates, communism and fascism
>>2533082China has been doing 5 years plans since forever. And the USSR never had the power to cripple the US MIC like China did. Socialism with chinese characteristics is just better.
>>2533082man, you are retaded, can you put on a tripcode so I can filter your retarded ass?
>>2533082>in China the betrayal already happened.Why didn't it collapse and balkanize?
>>2533105Because Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Fidel, Che, Deng, Xi and socialism with chinese characteristics (which is real socialism) won and he is a retard who will never be part of the real movement that abolishes the present state of things.
>>2533113Marxism is demonised in the West while in the PRC it's status quo even if it has it's own interpertation to it. This alone is good enough for me to know with whom to side. Just a reminder that Germany, Czechia and the Baltics and America more or less effectively criminalized being a Marxist.
>>2533107kino
common PRC seethers L
>>2533037>Wheres defense?The US and the taxes of USAnos on /USApol/ takes care of that part.
>>2533841is "becoming chinese" a thing? how can I learn this power?
>>2533105The betrayal was the 1913 revolution
>>2534411Erzra F Vogel is a fascist. All of these words are completely fake lies. You present prime example of the vulgarity of the bourgeois mind and its inabillity to grasp Marxism-Leninism
>>2532063apparently the nsa tried to sabotage the chinese space program in march of this year. does anyone have info on this?
>>2534375>National Security ShieldThe next Marvel Captain China film gonna be tight
>>2534444>fake liesProof? afaik the CPC ok'd that biography.
Also I didnt even post it as it if it was a bad thing, I just thought it was funny
>>2534875why does that pic go so fucking hard
Redpill me on Jiang Zemin
>>2535109Kind of underrated thh
What are the fundamental differences between an Apple engineer and a Huawei engineer? Does the Huawei engineer have more "rights"?
>>2535225>What are the fundamental differences between an Apple engineer and a Huawei engineer? the former is cringe, the later is based
>>2535225The latter works more hours* for less pay
*which chinese law claims is illegal but lets chinese corporations get away with because the class character of the state and party is bureaucrat-monopoly capitalist and not popular/proletarian, it's as simple as that. The corporations effectively (continue to) regulate the labor relations themselves, even after domestic outrage for years by the working masses.
https://developingeconomics.org/2023/07/10/working-overtime-or-being-laid-off-the-pressure-under-hopelessness-among-workers-in-chinese-internet-companies/https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3267322/china-tech-firm-enforces-extreme-overwork-exceeding-contentious-996-model >>2535252<le china is le capitalist<le soviet union is le degenerated workers stateok so then communism is impossible and we have absolutely no historical precedent to point to as evidence for our ideology. congratulations trotskyists, you have defeated communism.
>>2535291based and correct
>>2534377Based, but this this graph would be more interesting in absolute terms.
>>2535294I am open to believing 2049 that China will be socialist. But what does that mean?
Does the party apparatus just go and say, "we'll slowly dissapear, no revolution needed!"
>>2535348>Does the party apparatus just go and say, "we'll slowly dissapear, no revolution needed!"Why would the party aparatus dissapear? They will just end the open market approach, not transition into communism. Thats for 2150.
>>2535364>They will just end the open market approach, not transition into communism.so more centralization again? how's that socialism?
china has some form of local democracy I guess, unless you expand this, you will never progress into socialism and go further
>>2535364Communism is SOE power, plus labubufication of the whole country.
>>2535520best website award
The Europeans, particularly the Germans, are running around crying and 'petitioning' China now that their automotive industries are under threat
>didn't they plan for Chinese retaliation over the Nexperia situation?
Nope. They've become too comfortable dealing with Putin's Russia and didn't expect any retaliation whatsoever.
If China relents before getting back Nexperia, that will be bearish for a game of wills with the US down the road. I hope China tells Germany to go pound sand.
>>2533053i miss him so fucking much its unreal
>>2535225>>2535252Isn't Huawai ESOP, why did you forgot to mention that, glowshill?
>>2535252First link: an article about bullshit job graduate losing her job and income because a bullshit job has turned out to be a bullshit job. CPC is solving this issue by establishing a law where a university that has a certain percentage of graduates of a profession fail to find employment or lose their jobs, that university will get a license for this or that profession revoked.
>>2535739Russia has also humiliated Europe - and Germany specifically - this way when Russia has laid out the specific way Euroids have to buy gas and oil from Russia - in rubles, not USD, by buying rubles from Russian banks. Since then though Euroids have "diversified" by buying gas and oil through third parties which is certainly not Russian oil and gas
Where the fuck is this Chinese bourgeoisie that commands the economy? Seriously? Where is it? The American imperialists and bourgeoisie openly collude. So do the European ones. In non-western countries, the merger between domicile bourgeoisie and the state is pretty much clear nad obvious. So where the fuck is all this bourgeoisie that dictates Chinese policy?
Do you people not realize you are lapsing into sloganeering when you scream about 'capitalist social fascist China'? Where's the fucking evidence?
>>2535860Ah, but have you forgot Jack Ma, that famous billionaire whose eccentric behaviour leads him to buy 50 euro souvenirs on flea markets and who is so shy that there is zero photos of him on his (and it can be only his property, nobody else's!) yachts and mansions?
>>2535876Also during daytime this pole is just fucking covered by bags of food and other delivery shit. Same for delivery service branches, people just walk in and take their deliveries, and scan it's bar code to confirm (sometimes not). After 8 the attendant just leaves, and people still come and go. Convenience stores too, they put a sign saying self-service is on the right and that'd be it.
>>2535876High trust society. People also probably leave their spare keys somewhere near their doors, or maybe give keys to their neighbours. Downside of this is that if something is lying on the floor, people just assume it's lying there for a reason
>>2535876Thats also normal in Europe, tbh, Amazon always leaves my packages infront of the entrance when I'm at work.
>>2535876What's the explanation for it?
Traditional Asian honor thing?
High standard of living making theft unnecessary?
>>2535901Lower alienation.
It appears being a western dengist is worse for your brain than CTE…
>>2535860>Where the fuck is this Chinese bourgeoisie that commands the economy? 🤤Seriously? 🤤Where is it? 🤤[…] So where the fuck is all this bourgeoisie that dictates Chinese policy?🤤In the penthouses of the worlds top tier cities.
In the upper echelons of the China's political parties (that's right, plural). Being chauffeured around the globe. Attending Davos and WEF.
https://youtu.be/sWprEZitMp8>>2535872>>2535874https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_billionairesBeing rank two.
>Inb4 "i-it's not rank #1!!" Yet.
China is an imperialist superpower.Given you people's adoration of multipolar rhetoric one would assume you'd comprehend this by now, but apparently cognitive dissonance is a soothing coping mechanism for you bourgeois aspiring scum.
>>2535911its quite simple, there are prole nations and bourg nations. China is a prole nation so its good and america is a bourg nation so its bad
>>2535911>Being rank two. China has a lot of people being wrongfully accued of being billionaires - like Jack Ma. It's so much people that China gets into rank two on retarded lists of billionaires.
Note that in real life, billionaires avoid lists like these, they also avoid listing their property anywhere, so yellow press toilet papers just eyeball their wealth, and China is the largest victim of this, they get chairmen of collective companies being called billionaire owners, lol
this thread is a goldmine of "interesting" takes
>>2535913>Everyone critiquing is the same person, adhom fallacy>>2535915>Not addressing the argument, weak attempt at trolling>>2535919>Covers eyes and says reality simply isn't real There there.
>>2535930honestly this thread is a special place so im not really treating arguments here seriously
Regarding Nexperia, Europe is freaking out because it really thought that China would let it have one open hand for gibs from China and one closed fist for punching China on behalf of the US. But China isn't fucking around anymore.
>>2535936EU did this because USA wanted to attack China through proxies. Making proxies scream, however, gradually erodes trust in USA world order as USA doesn't protect proxies from the retaliation.
>>2535932NOOO we need to constantly discuss if china is le capitalism in every general + daily new china threads on the catalog
>>2535913mass tor baiters are really outta control
>>2535930Your sources from wiki page
Forbes and Hurun
Forbes is famous for nonsense lists such as 30 under 30, majority of laureates were later called out for being frauds and getting jailed. Then there was an example of a Russian oligarch suing Forbes, or a similar kind of a list maker, because he lost a wife due to Forbes spreading rumours about him hiding his wealth, wife reading that and thinking that Forbes is an authoritative source and not a rumour mill. Court ruled in favour of "oligarch", it didn't find any wealth hidden anywhere, and therefore Forbes spreading fakes. Then the guy sued Forbes for reputational damage to his person
Hurun is the same kind of shit.
And don't @ me with "but C-chynah's quoting Hurun!" They quote Jack Ma nonsense as well, and we know for a fact it's a lie, therefore, it doesn't prove anything.
>>2532483You are the punchline, bro
>>2532930Stalin would have shot Mickey Mouse with the help of Donald Duck
>>2535961>there was an example of a Russian oligarch suing Forbes, or a similar kind of a list maker, because he lost a wife due to Forbes spreading rumours about him hiding his wealthThey upset the feelings of a Russian oligarch? Nyoo, blacklisted source now..
>Hurun is the same kind of shit>And don't @ me with "but C-chynah's quoting Hurun!"Zamn, now even a source China relies on is simply all lies too…
>They quote Jack Ma nonsense as well, and we know for a fact it's a lieWho, you and your classcucked Dengcord server?
>>2535930>Everyone critiquing is the same person, adhom fallacyI'm not even a dengist or pro China but you aren't slick theres like 30 posters and 2-3 tor users here. And only one of them has an autistic obsession with China that makes up 40 percent of this websites traffic.
>>2535977 >>2535981 (me)
How long does it take you to make a reply anyways.
How long does it take you to make a reply anyways.
To literally everyone in this thread. Xi Jinping does not give a single shit about you unless you're applying for a Chinese visa and know perfect mandarin. He does not care if some retard from Bulgaria thinks his country is communist or not. Go focus on fixing your own countries instead.
>>2535986answer the question faggot
>>2535986>>2535348isnt that how the transition to communism is supposed to look like? A slow withering away of the state.
>>2535986In 2018, the National Radio and Television Administration shut down ByteDance's first app, Neihan Duanzi. In response, Zhang issued an apology, writing that the app was "incommensurate with socialist core values" and had a "weak" implementation of Xi Jinping Thought, and promised that ByteDance would "further deepen cooperation" with the ruling Chinese Communist Party to promote its policies better.[15][16][17]
Since late 2018, with more than a billion monthly users across its mobile apps,[7] ByteDance was valued at US$75 billion, and surpassed Uber as the world’s most valuable privately held startup.[11]
In September 2020, the United States Department of Justice called Zhang a "mouthpiece" of the Chinese Communist Party in a legal filing.[18]
>>2535981>I'm not even a dengist or pro China but you aren't slick theres like 30 posters and 2-3 tor users here. And only one of them has an autistic obsession with China that makes up 40 percent of this websites traffic.The other guy used "social fascist" (I reserve that for NATO social democracies) and "faggot" over and over (I've not used that term in a decade).
On a site that attracts mostly
comm-u-nists expect to get blowback from pushing bourgeois capitulationism and revisionism. There are loads of places where you will be pampered, like BernieDem Hasan's underageb& virtual harem. You will have it harder in a place where people actually read Marx and Lenin.
>>2534879Grandpa Xi in the middle with a confident but friendly look ready to embrace you + his aides/collegues looking anxious that the meeting will go well. Confident but friendly leader + attentive and eager assistants = confucian kino
is it really hard to believe that china has billionaires but they are controlled and subservient to the party?
>>2536000>On a site that attracts mostly comm-u-nists expect to get blowback from pushing bourgeois capitulationism and revisionism. You will have it harder in a place where people actually read Marx and Lenin.Ahahah you really think this place with mostly threads about nation states isn't going to be filled with nationalist libs.
>There are loads of places where you will be pampered, like BernieDem Hasan's underageb& virtual harem. Also nice try I'm not in illusion that China isn't neoliberal but I'm just ashamed if you really go through all the trouble of setting up tor everyday just to post in a thread you willingly clicked in.
>>2536003To begin with, China doesn't have private companies. There are people's companies, but no private ones - this moniker is reserved for Western companies that do have private owners. The very fact that Westoids when translating make no distinction is already something that should make you realize how dishonest reports on China are by default.
Again, Forbes lists are not actually lists of billionaires. No billionaire has ever come to Forbes with estimates of his wealth to be included in the list, it's all "investigative journalism" aka yellow press. Hell, Stalin was considered the riches man on Earth at some point, because the economic and ownership structure of a socialist economy was LITERALLY INCONCEIVABLE to Westoid minds
>>2533011Between 35-40% of Chinese net wealth is held by the state. It is definitely not a DotB.
>>2536047?????
If 100% of China's wealth was held in workers' hands directly, it wouldn't be a DotP?
>>2535957I still want a full version of this.
>>2535957Can anyone with one of these premium KI account make a Germany version of this preferably a Schlager genre version?
>>2536074Dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. I'm saying what it's not, not what it is. The current Chinese polity is PDD, not DotP, under a vanguard party. Whether this constitutes capitalism or not is up to you, but it's definitely not DotB.
>>2536085Ah, sorry. But wealth held by the state doesn't mean it's not DotB - there are companies like Saudis' Aramco which are state owned and which constitute majority of a capitalist economy, but it still remains a capitalist economy. There are DotB like Peronist Argentina, or South Korea when industrializing, you get the idea. All those examples are DotB.
>The current Chinese polity is PDD, not DotP, under a vanguard partyNah, it's DotP. Dictatorship is defined by the class in charge
>>2536116China will collapse any second now, and then Hong Kong will be free again, Trump will disappear, all immigrants will disappear and all tariffs will disappear and its gonna be the 90s again and history will end again 😘
again requesting a firewall for /PRC/ that keeps all the social fascists, nafoids and ultras from /USApol/ out
>>2536373these maps never include mixed people. Mixed people are always just lumped in with the dominant or minority group depending on how mixed they are.
Also if you're gonna finger wag about indigenous erosion may as well include the Tsarist conquest of Siberia 1500-1800.
>>2535998>picrelI literally made that from asking deepseek to explain socialism with chinese characteristics as if I was a toddler
>>2535855>Russia has also humiliated Europe - and Germany specifically - this way when Russia has laid out the specific way Euroids have to buy gas and oil from Russia - in rubles, not USDit's literally nothing. should kill exports like china does. especially when those countries are arming his enemy and helping kill his people. putin has killed all deterrence, allowing most of europe to insult his country daily. at least xi isn't weak and beholden to oligarchs.
>>2536401thank you for your service
>>2536094The difference between, say, Norway, which actually has higher state wealth to private wealth ratios, and China, is that China is governed by a vanguard party. China calls itself a PDD, i.e, a precursor form of DotP, whereas we can't consider Saudi or Norway DotPs / PDDs.
The important thing is the vanguard party's dominance, but the superstructure is supported by the base through the vast Chinese state holdings.
In short, this is Dengist Revolution. Imagine if SASAC and CITIC were sitting on 120-160 trillion instead of the CPC holding 25-40 trillion. The 160 trillion would be enough to buy out capitalism and support revolutions everywhere the capitalists don't take the buyout.
It's why the Americans are running scared; the moment their financial hegemony dies to China, they're alternately revolution fodder and buyout fodder.
>>2536521nta but people's democratic dictatorship
>>2536520wtf, he actually has a Xitter account, and it looks legit. Dunno how I missed it.
I'm an underachiever irl, so I fantasize that my Chadposting of Li Chenggang in the previous thread contributed in some significant way to his meme rise. :(
You've been cordially invited to join
LI CHENGGANG GANG
>>2536619I dont know how liberals are coping, MAGA is the culmination of western liberal democracy and China mogs them
>>2535911>Being rank two.Per capita?
>>2535930>>Covers eyes and says reality simply isn't realYou can't say that right after saying "not addressing the argument". Why are glownonymous posters always baiting?
>>2536931Why do I have to repeat again and again that Westoid company structure is not the same as Chinese company structure, and people deemed owners and 50% shareholders do not actually own the company?
>>2536936Is this referring to collectives like Huawei?
>>2536938This is referring to ALL Chinese "private" companies. They operate under a socialist market economy rules, i.e. they are not private/individual's companies but rather people's companies.
>>2536390Anyone trying to draw a comparison between the conquest of Siberia and the genocide of Native Americans are confirmed retards who have no idea what they are talking about. Native Siberians still actually exist beyond small isolated starving groups, they recieve benefits and autonomy from the Russian government. The Russian Empire at no point instituted a policy of systemic extermination of the native Siberians. The US is fundamentally characterized by Manifest Destiny the thought that it is endowed with the holy purpose to genocide the Indigenous people of North American and steal their land. No such comparison can be made in the case of Siberia. And shut the fuck up about "mixed people" as if the US doesn't have some of the lowest rates of mixture aside from recent Latino immigrants. Quit trying to deflect burger this is like when the USSR would point out segeragation in the USA in response to the USA making up bullshit about the USSR then crying "whataboutism".
>>2536373kinda funny that even though it'd make sense for the DPP to support indigenous people ideologically, since they're the best group you could hope for if you wanted a taiwanese identity independent of china, taiwanese indigenous heavily lean KMT since the DPP represent ethnically hookien 本省人 who historically feuded with them in the past. it's actually DPP legislators who've used anti-indigenous ethnic slurs, while the KMT have put up photos of indigenous anti-japanese partisans in their head offices.
also, shouldn't be that suprising but indigenous taiwanese would probably be better off under the PRC than under the current ROC administration. the two main indigenous ethnic groups in taiwan are already registered as part of the PRC's 56 ethnic minorities (with benefits like higher gaokao scores, mandated legislative representation etc), but the PRC already has a system of ethnic autonomous prefectures with limited self-government, which is something indigenous taiwanse have been asking for since the early 2000s
>>2536520Make into banner
>>2536078it was given to you in the webm thread where you asked originally
>>2455836 >>2536249This is what all anti china posters on this site look like to me
>>2537101While I agree with it in spirit, I could see a way in which this framework could be abused and cause overreach.
For example to stifle proletarian discourse.
It's a bit different from the obviously beneficial regulation in regards to kids throwing all their time away playing gacha games instead of socializing or learning.
Also fucking
source?. Chinese media please. Is this for certain ages? Details please.
>>2537101If this was in UK, every singe chinacuck on this site would be making "Oi, wheres your talking loicence?" jokes.
>>2537114the difference is China is goated and the UK is cringe asf
they are not the same
>>2536946>>2536936I swear the more I read the thread the more retarded it becomes
>>2537121You're a moron whose only strategy is to throw empty ad hominem attacks. I stand correct.
>>2537125ur avatar is a character from the anime made in abyss made by tsukushi akihito
just log on pixiv and look at what tsukushi akihito likes on there (spoiler: its drawn csam)
>>2537117>>2537114Thank you for correcting the record! One (1) $TARMER coin has been deposited into your wallet.
>>2537135Agree, then why seethe about China daily? they are far away.
>>2537140the children of fascists have no clue what communism is or what it looks like
>>2537133>I swear this level of classcuckery should be bannable offenseArent you american? Classcucking is basically your oxygen so you would need to ban yourself
>>2537142Why were paintings of Hitler destroyed after WW2?
>>2537144He is tamil living in italy
>>2537146to denazify germany? what's your point?
>>2537149But they are just paintings? And all those Arno Becker statues, why were they destroyed?
>>2537148he still would need to ban all american IPs (and thats a good thing)
>>2537140If a lie is repeated long enough it becomes miscontrued as thruth
>>2537141< t. white yankee>>2537144Leftypol è un forum internazionale, e a differenza del dengoide medio non sono statunitense
>>2537153better a lib Yank than an inheritor of the fascist cultural legacy
>>2537153>If a lie is repeated long enough it becomes miscontrued as thruthWhat lie?
>>2537151Class? Material interests? What's that nonsense? Nazism and other bad thimgs are spread through media; they will just stop existing if we ban enough shit
>>2537154Mi dai di eriditario della cultura fascia, ma qui tra noi l'unico ad usare razza e nazionalità per assegnare idee ed epiteti alla gente, sei tu bel coglionazzo. Se effettivamente la sinistra americana è compista da gentaglia ebete come te, allora c'è poca speranza.
>>2537157Did Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy lose WW2?
>>2537153> e a differenza del dengoide medio non sono statunitensehere in latam all my uyghas are pro-PRC, sorry
>>2537142Just stop jerking off to images of underage people bro it shouldnt be that hard
>>2537182sadly Xi and Donald will must likely make some sort of deal and we wont see any shutdowns
>>2537182Why did they seize Nexperia without securing chip access first? What were they thinking?
>>2537184>thinkingwestoids dont think
>>2537183I'm not sure. I think the Chinese are demanding complete capitulation from the US. Not only for all tariffs to be removed but also all sanctions and "national security concern" bans on stuff like EVs, drones and Huawei.
Trump's ego won't allow for that and Lutnick's aggressive retardation definitely won't allow for that. Even Bessent is acting like a brainfucked moron lately because Chenggang got under his skin, repeating the lie that CPC fired him because he raped Bessent or something lol. Just utter brainrot in the White House.
>>2537161there is no race. there is no nationality. there is only culture and your existence lies in the inherited cultural heart of fascism, its what blinds you to the outside truth of existing socialism
>>2537212Rand is surrendering
>>2537180We should say this to porn addicts in general but you people are not ready for this conversation.
>>2537212>>2537221Common PRCseethers L
Common /PRC/ W
Common China W
Common socialism with chinese characteristics W
>>2537228agree
>>2537180>>2537228Drawn porn is less exploitative and therefore less harmful to society than the real porn industry with real pornstars. I don't care if someone draws "elf lolis" when you have porn directors keeping tabs and hounding instagram models with offers as soon as they ding 18. We've all met zoomer 18 years old - they're still retarded children.
I like throwing this TRVKE BOMBA at random.
>>2537240Go tell your mom about why you think it is ethical to jerk off to images of people who look underage, this is a thread about the PRC and total NATO humiliation, fuck off
>>2537238I dont care if they dont magically end capitalism, what I care about is that if my country ever manages to have an actual socialist in power again, USAnos wont stage a coup and fund an almost two decades long fascist military dictatorship again.
>>2537243My point was that people seethe about cartoons got their priorities fucked. Like you. See how that's the part that was triggering to you.
This is relevant to PRC btw since China bans porn and is cracking down on prostitution primarily. Drawn porn is just a necessary collateral damage that I don't really mind. But progressive cretins treating Seattle street walkers and teen OF "models" like some legitimate (sex) "workers" are scum.
>>2537243Tbh that would be less humiliating than telling your mom that you are an online communist
>>2537251I disagree with prostitution too and pimps are scums but is it really that much different from normal jobs? Many young men in PRC who cant pass gaokao do completely degrading jobs like being a construction worker or doing call centre. Unless the sex worker is literally forced by the pimp to do that job or to service clients she doesn't want to which would be rape there is literally nothing wrong with that. People who oppose sex work eventually end up rambling about how sex shouldn't be commercialized or that female dignity is sacred as if being a poor farmer perpetually in debt is somehow more dignified than being a well off prostitute
>>2537255construction work isn't
completely degrading.
Being a poor farmer is in fact less degrading than a seriously high risk of rape, physical abuse and death every time they hit the fields.
>>2537254She knows it and she loves me.
>>2537262When you're talking about prostitutes who get raped or catching disease you are talking about poor prostitutes who often work themselves in the streets and frequently abused by organized crime. This is like if i take a cotton farmer from India who ingested pesticide to escape debt, or a construction worker working for a shady company in an illegal construction site where you can get flattened to a pancake by rolled iron and cite them as example of what being a worker if their respective fields is.
In fact, i have seen many OF girls who can afford houses (multiple!) from their income. I have never seen a construction worker doing the same shit unless you're on a specialized role like a welder or something
>>2537272And this is why Westoids are in dire economic straits. Unproductive labor getting rewarded higher than productive labor results in parasites outweighing producers
Anyhow all this talk about prostitution and dignity actually reminds me of the Yu Menglong case which i think is a case of forced prostitution in the entertainment industry gone wrong. Just a tickle for prc anons here, there is some epstein shit going on in Chinese entertainment industry
>>2537277Being a whore is actually very productive cuz without femwhores and manwhores and theywhores men would become crazy and have sex with each other (hot) and doing things like raping people and animals (less hot) as Augustine of Hippo said. In fact in this age where most countries are not engaged in active warfare whores do more for society than veterans. Stop celebrating veteran day and start celebrating who days
>>2537272<switches from prostitution to Only Fans at the first sign of pushback.Sex Work obsessives still loosing. At this point you people are a parody of yourselves.
>>2537101Sounds very vague and fake and gay
>>2537255>and pimps are scums Of course they are. I didn't mention them though. I was talking about pro porn directors and recruiters. They're scum of the earth too and the whole sex "industry" is rotten. Drugs, diseases, suicides and rape come as part of the package no matter how hard you want to whitewash it.
>degrading jobs like being a construction worker or doing call centre>building schools, homes and hospital is just as degrading as getting cummed on by some fat old creep that has to pay for sexGrim. Sad. It's so fucking over for the progressives it's not even funny. I genuinely wanted to laugh when I read what you wrote until the dread hit me at the thought that you might not be baiting.
You are fucking insane. Would you rather your father be a construction worker or your mother to come home every night after a long day at work getting gangbanged? Would you marry an OF "model"? Would you be fine with ads featuring your sister eating a dildo popping up online?
>People who oppose sex work eventually end up rambling about how sex shouldn't be commercialized or that female dignity is sacred Oh go fuck yourself. Did you think you had some kind of an anti-conservative gotcha here you sleazeball? You're not a feminist, you're Andrew Tate tier.
China went through drug and prostitution epidemic before the Communist revolution. It was bad and thankfully they know better than you which lead them to stop it. There is no "clean" sex work - it's always packaged with exploitation, that's literally the point of it.
What you said about construction workers is really telling. Really revealing to contempt of blue collar workers in the west. Shows what you really think about those type of jobs after the mind rot of service based economy has set into your capitalist shithole.
This is why China still builds dams that alter the rotation of the planet, highest bridges that come with their own waterfalls and restaurants while American GDP is uplifted with porn industries and their EU and Japanese vassals are descending into deindustrialized, impoverished sex tourism hives with degenerate parties and organized Yakuza crime funded JAVs.
>>2537272If you vouch for construction workers' rights they will have better safety and at the end of their workday they'll be finishing with reconstruction of the nation which will benefit millions.
If you vouch for sex workers' rights they will have better safety but at the end of their workday they'll be left with a gaping, cum filled anus and only a few disgusting pigs will feel good while millions of families suffer the humiliation.
Drawing patreon furry porn, sucking dick on stream, eating Sheikh businessman smegma, giving twitch political commentaries etc. These are all worthless harmful activities for the society. Service based scams. These are parasitical anti-industries and they should be pulled out by the roots.
Thank Mao you retards are not in charge of China. Thank Xi for further kneecapping the sexpest tourism of Hu Jintao and Zemin era.
>>2537314TRVTH TSAR BOMBA
>>2536619probably not him
>>2537314>societyAn abstraction. It is a service for which there is demand. When a construction worker spends their days working on on some McMansion, or a bank office building, or 8th highway lane, is that to benefit of "society"?
>>2537382>some McMansion, or a bank office building, or 8th highway lane, is that to benefit of "society"?In comparison to prostitution? Objectively yes. They'd be more beneficial in a socialist country of course.
But prostitution? Can't be rehabilitated, sorry cumbrain.
>>2537405Yeah man, flushing massive amount of labour power and natural resources down the fucking drain is so much more beneficial than having sex for money.
>>2537406Is there any more reliable source than what appears to be a post from instagram/tiktok/twitter?
>>2537406I don’t think China’s police are that bored, they have human trafficking gangs kidnapping people to Myanmar to deal with
if we understand dengism as using capitalism against capital, is leftcom dengism possible?
>>2537425>leftcom dengism You mean amerikkkan social democracy?
>>2537114didnt know "leftypol anonymous" was an influencer
>>2537425>if we understand dengism as using capitalism against capital,You have it backwards. Dengism uses capital against capitalism, not capitalism against capital. China is developing the productive forces so much that commodities cost almost nothing to produce. This destroys rate of profit for global porky.
>>2537382>When a construction worker spends their days working on on some McMansion, or a bank office building, or 8th highway lane, is that to benefit of "society"?There will be construction workers under socialism, they will just be building housing and factories instead of monuments to capitalist egotism. There will be no "sex industry" under socialism.
>>2537101As far as I'm concerned, "influencers" are nothing but some of the worst bourgeois parasites.
>>2537486>There will be no "sex industry" under socialismAnd you basic that prediction on what exactly?
>>2537577There won’t be any industry under socialism
>>2537139>>2535915isn't there a difference between essentialism level of development and class character? if history happened differently then different nations would be in different positions. i know its difficult to understand. if you want to be a proletarian nation just do the rev. what are you waiting for?
>>2537705I don't think there will be some kind of a sudden peace between China-US. It's just that narrative is slowly sobering up and that's a fact as seen in this pic
>>2537221 >Western media.jpg
This isn't just RAND and RUSI sounding the alarm. It's everybody from Times to FT to BBC slowly realizing their ship is sinking after a series of reality checks. And it's noticeable.
Guys like Arnaud Bertrand and Cyrus Janssen are huffing on that hopium of friendly US-CN relations because they saw the trajectory a long time ago, yes. But sooner or later reality creeps in for everybody.
Will neocon war hawks like Marco Rubio and Elbridge Colby change their stance? Of course not; They are ride or die anti-China automatons in the same way EU bureaucrats are anti-Russia kamikazes. But will majority of people obey their commands when that day comes? Increasingly unlikely.
>>2537476That's literally every capitalist country ever lmao
>>2537241Yeah. See no futher than the US economy. AI is 90% a bubble, 10% actual productive augmentation.
>>2537246Yeah, some other country will do it instead.
>>2537841Stocks, crypto, and real estate will keep going up and up, as well as consolidating in fewer and fewer hands. GDP will continue to increase. That's what the economy is, right?
>>2537833>Guys like Arnaud Bertrand and Cyrus Janssen are huffing on that hopium of friendly US-CN relationstrue
its kinda funny all these are non-communists . berletic still gets it more right than wrong and even diagnoses MIC problems as a result of profit motive
>>2537837except the imperialist countries maintain dependency and uneven development while china does the opposite. you cant offshore and outsource and have low cost resource extraction for high value added commodities if countries stop exporting and instead produce domestically. increasing proletarianization in the periphery and heightening contradictions in the core as super profits dry up no more room for bribes drives revolutionary conditions in both
>>2537883Unfortunately Brian Berletic and Ben Norton have near spotless records. I say "unfortunately" because the picture they paint is grim. But they source, research and dig up everything in excruciating detail so it's hard to call them baseless doomers. Reality is just blackpilling and depressing.
>>2537891this kills the dishonest westoid
>>2537837Show me a single western capitalist country with a Chinese cost of electricity. Just one.
>>2537841>Yeah, some other country will do it instead.Which one? Chyna? I dont think so
>>2538190>>2538192This is Bessent's plan, or wishful thinking. He even bitched out against the Chinese diplomat
>>2536520 for being a wolf warrior, meaning China wasn't playing nice with American fragile fantasies
>>2538196I was posting Chenggang material, heh, so I'd be disappointed if this 'deal' is China taking the pressure off the US in return for a US
promise to do something in future.
>>2537101Holy fucking based, actual deathblow to misinformation on mainstream social media, should be implemented everywhere
>>2537110Nah bro, in China the youth are college educated at a very high rate, a lot of the unemployed youth are college graduates who can't find a high-prestige job suitable for their degree, this won't stifle the people.
>>2537116It's not income per person, it's cross-border income per person. This uygha moffin is so retarded
Speaking at a briefing for members of Parliament and the House of Lords on Wednesday, retired British Rear Admiral Chris Parry argued that if the UK were to lose its foothold in Northern Ireland, it would present a major opportunity for Moscow and Beijing.
He noted that the waters between Northern Ireland and Scotland are essential for Britain’s nuclear-armed submarines, describing it as “critical to our strategic deterrent.”
“With a united Ireland, there is no guarantee we could deploy our ballistic missiles,” Parry said.
He also suggested that Irish unification would enable NATO adversaries to threaten critical undersea cables.
“The UK needs to calibrate the threat to itself of a supine Republic of Ireland. My view is that the best way to help Ireland now is to increase NATO and Allied activity in Ireland’s economic zone waters,” he said.
Parry even suggested that NATO should hold exercises in Irish-controlled waters “whether Dublin agreed or not,” saying the bloc must be prepared to “fish in Irish waters for our potential opponents.” He added that the republic should move toward closer military cooperation with NATO and renounce neutrality.
“If anyone attacks Britain, they will attack Ireland… Neutrality cannot be seen as conscientious objection any more. If you are part of the free world, you have to be prepared to defend it. The Republic needs to reduce its vulnerabilities,” he stated.
Moscow has dismissed claims that it plans to attack NATO as “nonsense.”
>>2537221I don't think they will do the smart thing and de-escalate though, not with senile old Trump, his warhawk cabinet, and his MAGA cult in charge. And his sponsors aren't likely to make him back down by a lot either, considering they're the likes of Peter Thiel and Miriam Adelson. And also his own wealth has exploded thanks to his crypto scam and perfume and other shit and probably isn't as dependent on rich backers anymore.
>>2537240Ok sure it's less bad than being a porn director, pedophilia is still bad
>>2537184>What were they thinking?China bad
>>2538296thank you sir parry for giving us the perfect reason for a united ireland
>>2537212>>2537221This is from RAND who predicted a decado ago that the US has until 2025 to gain military tech advantage over China or it can't win a war against it.
>>2537300100%, there is nothing wrong with being a construction worker, what's wrong with manual labor?
>>2537944Ngl I don't think it's possible, even if one takes the stance that the CCP is now purely capitalist and only nominally socialist, just being nominally socialist means they will never wage an ideological war against communism like America did/does.
>>2538337i wish moffin was as dictatorial as you have him imagined to be
>>2538344>defending moffin who wiped the entire website due to his incompetanceBahahaha.
when you and the rest of the mod team run out of welfare checks and step foot outside maybe we will build .01 of communism as Karl Bordinga intended.
>>2538353i wish i was, i could have all of you banned for breaking rule 14
>>2538363>i wish i was, i could have all of you banned for breaking rule 14<I'm totally not a mod guys! stop breaking rule 14 (i) no hurting moffin's feel feels.I wish I was a mod so I can delete every redundant nation state general so actual meaningful discussion could take place.
>>2537210> It's nit about race, it's about a proxy for it, which totally isn't racist or otherwise essentialistEx:
>>2537195 Using this site becomes infinitely more bareable once you hide that italian pedo and you don't have to see his constant whining about China or his gross pedo avatar
>>2538474aka you're mad at him because he's right and so you're pissing yourself over it
>>2538479nta I completely agree with him on Chinese capitalism. I just think he's a pathetic human being and you are too.
>>2538479Why would I be mad about him having an opinion I disagree with? I come here to argue and discuss things with people.There's plenty of other retards here whining about China all day. I just think he in particular is a really annoying pedo avatar fag and my enjoyment of using the site went up dramatically after I hid him. Seems more like you're having a crying fit, shitting and pissing yourself because I insulted your favorite anti china pedo
>>2538489kek so you do know how post without a trip after all. You look like a pathetic cuck for not banning people who ridicule you by the way and petty loser if you do. Maybe you just shouldn't bombard everyone with your child fetish.
>>2538489I don't wanna look at your pedo jerk off material dude, I'm not into it
>>2538492now watch him try to deny its him even though hes the only one here who would willingly save that to their device.
Say what you want about moff but the fact that the toxicity and name calling is mostly one sided really tells you that a lot of pro china people here have parasocial relationship with the concept of China as a communist vanguard
>>2538499for the last time at least I don't care about China and neither should anyone else. you seem to have a parasocial attachment with 'moff' go outside and get real friends.
The more you post your pedo cancer the less normal people respect you. It tells us that you are just throwing a tantrum over us disliking your favorite cartoon. I'm done giving you traffic have fun dying alone in It*ly.
>>2538499That's not what a parasocial relationship is you retard. I don't care about about his retarded takes on China, there's tons of other morons like that here, including namefags that could receive the same reaction if that was all that mattered, but they don't because they're not as annoying/not avatar fagging pedos. Why are you so adamant to defend him? Do you really hate china that much? Or do you just love looking at drawings of half naked children that much?
I don't know anything about /lefrypol's petty internet dramas. Is "Moffin" a real pedophile (i.e. posts sexually charged content of prepubescent-looking characters) or just a person liking to avatarfag with cutesy-looking characters who had became a victim of a moral panic?
>>2538541
From what I've read, there are opposing factions, but they have to go through the Communist Party process, so anything that goes against the Chinese government's goals is basically impossible. The party is also crazy popular since they keep improving the lives of people within the border.
>>2538541
That's kinda stupi question? There are always opposing factions in any real-world goverment.
As someone from a settler colony, online Chinese nationalists fucking disgust me, because they resemble the racist pieces of shit here so closely.
Take the suppression of Xinjiang for example. Uyghur separatists killed some police and civilians, the government steps in, yeah it sucks but it makes sense.
But when some idiot Westerner echoes at them about le genocide or le cultural marxism genocide, you know what these nationalist fuckers do?
<well if they're being oppressed, why are their uyghur police?
<and how come their culture still exists in public?
HOLY SHIT. ARE YOU FUCKERS JUST NOT AWARE OF THE USA EXISTING? This is the same shit burgers say about black people. This is the same braindead shit Zionist influencites are saying about brown people,
<'if there's a genocide then why is there arabic writing on signs HMMM?'
bad hasbara is good enough for han supremacists
Please Xi, put these idiots into an education camp.
>>2538549
>shit no-one said
>>2538561I think you should be more concerned about people trying to perpetuate CIA narratives about Xinjiang than chinese people using "the wrong arguments" to defend themselves from such accusations. Xinjiang is nothing like a settler colony, so all your whining about how it's "the same argument" and these chinese nationalists "resemble the same racists that live in my genocidal settler state" doesn't apply at all, because it's not the same argument, because it's not the same situation at all
>>2538569There's a case for their argument, in that stupid westerners will think their stupid arguments are validated by it even though it's not relevant
On the other hand there has to be a limit on coddling western delusion
Bessent is signaling that China will cuck out and delay the rare earth export ban. In turn US will dial back some tariffs.
If this is true and not some Bessent wishcasting then it's a fat fucking L for Chinese demands and optics. Xi is making Cucktin seem strong and all the people demanding blood on Weibo will be vindicated for shitting on MoFA.
>>2538591Cope, the US has 0 cards.
>>2538591I haven't seen them cuck out ONCE since Trump tried pretending to be the big dog
>>2538606After constant humiliations, insults, sanctions, threats and tariffs anything less than maximum pressure is cucking out. If they did indeed delay bans on neodymium and magnets then they outright cucked out.
Trump waltzing into Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand and Cambodia while they're sucking him off in front of China is also pathetic and very telling of China's weak regional respect and soft power. Doesn't matter how many bridges and high speed trains you gift to your neighbor if they're just going to suck America off and sign every deal undermining China every time they pay a booty call visit.
>>2538590>in that stupid westerners will think their stupid arguments are validated by itStupid westerners don't give a fuck what Chinese nationalists have to say about anything, especially racist ones that wanna defend settler colonialism. If they mention them at all it is because they are disingenuously using these people because they sound similar to them on a surface level, that is if they even give that much of a fuck about the chinese or think it'll give them clout to use them in such a way. Just attack western chauvinists, that's more then enough, no need to get upset about imaginary Chinese settler colonialism supporters.
>there has to be a limit on coddling western delusionWestern delusions shouldn't be coddled at all
>>2538612take this kind of cope to /USApol/
rangeban everyone from the US, western Europe and Israel
>>2538624Might as well just delete leftypol
>>2538625delete /leftypol/ and leave only /PRC/
>>2538637As the US and the EU become more and more authoritarian there will be less brain drain from PRC and other SEA countries into the w*st.
Everything is going according to the plan.
>>2538458homosexuality isn't a race
>>2538637I wish I had the ability to learn a new language and that China allowed immigration and that I was white so nobody would get upset that I'm fucking their daughter…I would move to China, I guess.
>>2538855In a way we are, our sexuality are defined at birth and out brain functions, beliefs, empathy levels, mannerisms, etc… are COMPLETELY different from hetmoids
>>2539039>defined at birthdon't make me laugh
>>2539050Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man. You are nothing but a product of your environment
>>2539053You fucking retarded 99% of homosexuals were literally grown in hetero environments, most of the time homophobic too
>>2539055Humanity has always been gay throughout its history, therefore a society has never truly been purely 'hetero'. and as you can see, there are more gays in a gay friendly society
>>2539063No, sexuality is genetically and neurologically hard coded, is not flexible at all
Us and heteros are completely different people, our brain function differently, our political beliefs, morality, empathy levels, etc and etc…
>>2539067gays are the jews of sexuality
The fuck is this chat
Explain why homosexuality is so absent in DPRK that they don't even need legislation to restrict it
>>2539071>Explain why homosexuality is so absent in DPRK that they don't even need legislation to restrict itHomosexuality is illegal in DPRK. Anything that can be construed as decadent capitalist behavior is illegal. DPRK is basically 1984, they don't really need to go through the hassle of writing specific formal laws for everything, there's really only one kind of crime, thoughtcrime, and the citizens are not entitled to any explanation as to what does and doesn't constitute thoughtcrime, that's for the state and the thought police to decide.
>>2539071It is not
>>2539078>Homosexuality is illegal in DPRKFalse
>>2539078>Homosexuality is illegal in DPRKI also love to make unsubstanciated claims without proof.
>>2539086I think you're joking, but if you're serious, then why is Kim Jong Un fat and how is he friends with Denis Rodman?
>>2539067Nazis agree with you
>>2539120Has anyone ever told you that you're autistic?
>>2539125I do like trains.
>2539078 (you)
>DPRK is basically 1984
(you)
>>2538561>This is the same shit burgers sayjust because imperialists say something in bad faith no one else is allowed to say it when its true? for china a rising tide also lifts all boats, because unlike neoliberals they actually reinvest in society
>>2538590eventually people are just going to support chinese "capitalism" out of envy
>>2539216Sorry, you're right. North Korea is a vibrant and beautiful utopia, a free and open society for all, nothing bad ever happens there and the system works great.
https://thinkbrics.substack.com/p/bank-of-china-chief-economist-usesA Chinese chief economist at one of China's largest public banks has officially admitted that modern monetary theory is right and China is fully embracing it.
>>2539233it's doing pretty fucking well given the historical and political context it exists in. You try rebuilding a country after 90% of all standing structures are bombed into rubble by americans, while under sanctions from the west and their allies and vassals.
>>2539237does this mean china good or china bad
>>2539233What data or experience do you have to make a judgement on this topic? You'd look pretty silly if you did no research on DPRK and just came here to voice a vibes-based opinion, but that isn't true, right?
Whats the solution to the WQ (westoid question)?
>>2539272Doesnt this run into exactly the same issues as Keynesianism (i.e. private sector needs not just to produce but produce profitably, and government induced demand cant help with that because all government income comes at the expense of private economy)?
>>2538591>>2538612We'll have to wait and see what the deal is and whether China has lifted the pressure for a mere
promise. US promises mean nothing.
>>2539291>private sector needs not just to produce but produce profitably, and government induced demand cant help with that because all government income comes at the expense of private economyTaxes don't fund public spending in countries that print their own currency. And a government with monetary sovereignty and a planned economy like China's doesn't have those monetary constraints or the lobbies of private companies telling them what to do.
https://youtu.be/zBk78wG1U9U?si=2WLCeVACSGdJFcMh Unique IPs: 122