>>2547554they are cutting back on english tutors. you gotta have competitive degree to get job and they still wont give you citizen
>>2547788>the "realistic" China collapse scenario and what will probably happen is that China will enter an economic plateau of 1-3% growthexcept lower growth is part of the plan
>>2547815but india isn't communist so they will run into capitalism problems. china wont because they are communist. growth stagnation as you become advanced is the signal to transition
>>2548175That poster also believes that USA has successfully done anything to stop China's rise, lmao
>>2548182You don't understand! USA is eternal, any problem is transient and will be solved in time, while China's problems are systemic and truly dire!
>>2548175>china wont because they are communistthe people's real estate crisis
>>2548243In one of earlier thread, there was a link to some economist who had a graph with Chinese industrial investments rising as real estate investments were falling. Basically, everything that went into Evergrande is now going into production of goods
>>2548182in the burger reich the fuhrer is threatening to coup one of the largest and most important cities if they elect a mere succdem
>>2548255Burger reich wasn't this vulnerable since Vietnam
>>2548236The real estate crisis is literally a blow to speculative investors
The problem isn't just the population loss, it's the shrinking population. Robots can't consume.
It's the greying population, excuse me. Basically, and we know Moffin's a glowie because it won't make him happy, China will nuke Pax Americana. But won't be able to establish Pax Sinica in its place.
>>2548339>productivity grows>population shrinksThat's objectively great for the working class.
>>2548339>>2548345life extension technology. You can reverse the shrinking population rates by making people live longer. The reason why people dont want kids is because having kids takes away a huge part of their lives. If people live longer then this would be less of a problem.
Also less death rates means small birth rates can be sustaniable
>>2548381You're being delusional fantasists banking on technology that won't be ready for decades.
End of the day, if you're a standard anti-imperialist looking for Pax Americana to end, this is great, because China won't replace it with Pax Sinica, and China claimed it has no interest in exporting socialism anyways. If you're a Chinese jingoist, this is a mess, which is good for everyone else.
>>2548589The mess hitting in 2 weeks.
Some people say the counterrevolution happened in 1979, I personally think it happened in 690 with the coup against Wu Zetian
>>2548619If counterrevolution happened in China, why is it then that China isn't bending to US hegemony? We've all seen how after WW2 whole capitalist world has bent the knee, with capitals truly becoming international - and monopolized and concentrated in the US. China wasn't supposed to develop anything ,wasn't supposed to advance past cheap manufacturer, wasn't supposed to upend the world order, just like Africa and South America and India are perpetually trapped in their place; instead, China moved up the value chain - much like USSR did, although USSR's situation was a competition of imperialists
>>2548781Capitalism is bigger than US or any other hegemony
>>2548784Nah, by this point, there exists only the USA to defend capitalism, and then there's Chinese COMMUNIST hegemony on the horizon. Capitalists may hold countries here and there, but communist dominance will force the humanity to change towards the correct path. Throughout 20th century, USA (and USSR too) has killed off all the imperialist competition, concentrated capitais, yadda yadda; so, if USA falls, there's no hope for the restoration of capitalism in any form
>>2548799*ORIENTAL hegemony on the horizon
>>2548781There’s never been a revolution or counterrevolution in China because it’s all been the oriental mode of production
>>254861110-20 years.
The entire point is, Beijing won't be strong enough to bail you out. Your job is to clone what works from their praxis, and achieve revolution in your own countries; they won't export arms and provide a trickle of funding, but no more.
If you succeed, good, we destroy the capitalist hegemony together. If we fail, China goes senescent in the geriatric nursing home fight between America, Europe, India, and China.
>>2548916To emphasize, though, the security state is too strong for armed revolt. Work together with dedicated comrades and make money, and with the basket of money, get more dedicated comrades, pick up a few useful opportunists, and make more money.
Eventually, fund superPACs, bribe politicians, etc. Destroy capitalism from the inside.
A question for the China haters: is your problem with China itself or with local dengoids? I understand not trusting people who want to copy dengism in the imperial core, but when it comes to China itself, even if you think they are revisionists and overall le bad, I think the chances of them correcting their course are interconnected with there being a change (hopefully towards socialism) in the imperial core.
>>2548925It's not so much the course correction but attempting to move through stages. China is, however much they might deny it, Menshevik, and the Chinese party state is strong enough to make it work.
At a certain point, China will have the base necessary for FALC and the ability to implement it. There's no point of doing severe labor reforms before then, although playing whack a mole with porky is always a good idea.
Stageism
>>2548916>10-20 years.You're Zeihan-tier.
>The entire point is, Beijing won't be strong enough to bail you outNobody asked them to. Take your meds.
The United States is going to force China to take on a world revolutionary role analogous to the Soviet Union during WWII, the party is in complete denial of it and it’s going to cost them every shoreline city
>>2548946>The United States is going to force China to take on a world revolutionary role analogous to the Soviet Union during WWIIwhat if they move right instead of left tho
>>2548946>it’s going to cost them every shoreline cityWhat the fuck are you talking about?
Man what the FUCK is with these schizoposts lately?
>>2548937Put another way, even if China gets back to 2.1 TFR in 2035, the damage will have been done. The present birthrate reflects a 720 million population, not a 1400 million population.
Population will grey, there'll be capital levels too high for labor, and the entire Chinese game was based on having between 1.5x to 2x the population of the entire West, canceling out an industrialization gap.
China only has 30% of the world's productive capacity, guess who has the rest?
>>2548922incredibly retarded
>>2548956If you don’t think the US will use the Philippines and Japan to bomb all of China you’re not serious
>>2549121They can't even bomb crippled Russia, surrounded by Euro dogs.
Those 2 Asian Chihuahuas can't even bark at China.
>>2548925>people who want to copy dengism in the imperial corewho?
>>2548928>Menshevikis that bad because menshevism is universally wrong or was it denounced by the bolshiveks because it didnt apply to their conditions
>>2548928>China is, however much they might deny it, Menshevik, and the Chinese party state is strong enough to make it work.This is not how states work. Socdems are bad because at every point in time, they opt to cuck out to porkies and wait for porkies to solve their problems. They don't take history in their own hands
>>2549514The Mensheviks were wrong because they wanted to abdicate government control to bourgeois liberal """"democracy"""". The Bolsheviks themselves knew they would have to do developmental capitalism if the German Revolution failed. In the end the two positions have fused into modern Dengism.
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