>>2546612To be fair he should have asked on /r/ultraleft
>>2546647Genuinely if you talk to orcish subhuman pro-capitalist burgeroids on the internet you will see that the shit they claim to believe is so disgustingly retarded, so kindergarten tier and reliant on an utter misunderstanding of, like, human history, to the point that they have to actively forget civilization and agriculture didn’t always exist to spew the retarded circular logics they state; that it genuinely feels like they are lying
They’re just lying 
Actually this feels extremely common for burgers of all political perspectives, just how easily and shamelessly they fucking lie
But especially capitalist shills
They will make up shit so utterly retarded they cannot possibly believe it by rant about it with fervent conviction
Case in point, this morning I asked some guy questions in a tiktok live, some petit booj anticommunist retard, I asked him where he thinks capitalism came from and the fucktard said something about “I have something you want, you have something I want, let’s trade!” couldn’t answer “why don’t people just make what they need?” Said retarded shit about “First you I have a lamb in my cabin in the woods, do you have a right to take it away?” when I asked him if he knows how “private property” came to be
When you talk to liberals long enough you see what true ideology is, since they’re lying at length essentially, because otherwise you need to accept that in this specific moment the liberal is genuinely willing to pretend as though time, history, society, and the world; none of them exist, there was no time at all before capitalism, like Genesis where God speaks the world into being and none precedes (this being made up by humans), to the Liberal, reality begins with a solitary market exchange of two individuals who peculiarly exist outside time, history, society, and even production itself