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>>2544795Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trolls
Not reporting is bourgeois
Violators will be launched from trebuchet
actual previous thread (my bad)
>>2545738One day I am going to write gay fanfiction where Felix stalks CPUSAnon and they eventually get into an abusive BL relationship.
>>2546827that bullet was fired by a venezuelan nigerian trans islamic communist by the way
>>2546837We might get war with Nigeria first…or simultaneously.
>>2546830Calm down Yockey
>>2546830lol
Never been into the whole Yandere/Tsundere thing myself.
>>2546841It is also likely that America will declare war on America first. Or Candida. Or Iceland. Or Mexico. Or Hati. Or Cuba. Or Columbia. Or Jamaica. Or Ukraine. Or Russia. Or the entire Eu. Or China. Or India. Or Yemen. Or Pakistan. Or Nepal. Or South Korea. Or North Korea.
A lot of options.
>>2546851Slapping fannies and killing grannies
>>2546851Should leftists support Cuomo just so that the deranged New York Jews don't make a mass-exodus onto West Bank settlements
>>2546854Impressive. I remember when this video was first posted on Siberia and I made the comment that this bunch would largely be disliked for being ugly rather than for their potential misuse of EBT funds. Seems more topical at the moment
>>2546849For me knowing some "art" is Ai really takes the soul out of it tbh
>>2546827No he didn't. Trump is ultimately a selfish, sociopathic coward and a idiot. The Military has always been a racket.
>>2546863I will post my reply from the other thread since I always find labor history fascinating and someone else might as well:
Things got pretty spicy during the Great Upheaval/the 1877 Railroad strike, not just in the south. I used to live in Reading, PA, and workers there seized the railroad and were put down by the state militia. It was so brutal that one of the regiments almost defected to the side of the workers:
>Several companies of the 16th Regiment were dispatched from Conshohocken, Pennsylvania, and arrived at 10:00 am on July 24. Many members of the regiment openly supported the rioters. On the morning of the 24th, General Reeder telegraphed to his superior, General Bolton, the predicament of his troops in Reading:<My situation is not improved by the arrival of the Sixteenth regiment, which is very disaffected. The Fourth is becoming anxious, and is also very much exhausted. Should have reliable troops, without delay. … The Sixteenth regiment is furnishing the strikers with ammunition and openly declare their intention to join the rioters in case of trouble. If troops do not reach us by dark, I cannot vouch for the safety of the city, or my power to hold the depot. Stir heaven and earth to forward reliable and fresh troops.
>Soldiers began deserting. Some of the 16th drank with the strikers, and drunkenly roamed the streets threatening violence. A great many were won over by the mob in their animosity toward the 4th over the killings of the previous night. As the day progressed, there was a real and growing risk of an open fight between the 16th and the 4th. General Bolton, before leaving for Reading himself, telegraphed the State Adjutant General, "Have United States troops sent to Reading at once. Portion of the Sixteenth regiment are about revolting and joining the strikers".Our newspaper, the Reading Eagle, described it as such:
>The Eagle has never been called upon to chronicle a more horrible slaughter of its peace and law-abiding citizens as is its duty to-day. … The pavements, sidewalks and streets in the vicinity of 7th and Penn streets, were literally baptized in blood. …When I first read about this I was shocked to realize I've actually walked on the same steps where workers were slaughtered.
>>2546863also poor white peasantry still existed as well in large numbers still
also america at this time had a stronger anarchist tendency than marxist one
Do we really need sissification fetishists like transhumanoids in the political left(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>2546880Donald Trump (D-NY)
>>2546873Conservatives learning about porn and especially niche things like sissification then ranting about it will never not be funny
>>2546837he's blue balling the neocons
>>2546873it's irrelevant. focus on the program
>>2546863>>2546871>>2546873Definitely not a record, but this thread went to shit real fast
>>2546891Based. We stand with Israel
>>2546827>President Trump took a bullet for youif he
took a bullet for me, how come he's alive?
>stand with him against Venezuelaonly if he chains his ass on the tip of a flying cruise missile.
>>2546883But do we want to associate with LGBT? it gives us a bad name.
"Haha leftists are with the transhumanists/sissification fetishists"
(USER ALREADY BANNED) >>2546827By joining the US Army she massively increased her odds of facing SA than she would have if she just remained in civilian life btw
why the fuck do you guys have elections on tuesdays?
>>2546851>born 1933>suddenly interested in vootinglol
>>254686211D chess like this is idiotic
>>2546899>[insert political group] opposes using power until they have itsong as old as time
Trump blames Nixon
President Donald Trump recently blamed former President Richard Nixon for setting China on the path to becoming a global economic superpower, accusing the 37th president of having “unleashed” Beijing and allowing it to exploit the U.S. for decades.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-blames-nixon/ar-AA1PFLvK>>2546909if only that applied to democucks.
>>2546915Napoleon said a lot of good stuff about Islam too
>>2546896That overestimates the number of virulent homophobes, assumes that those throwing slander at the left are being honest about their intentions, and would abandon comrades who just happen to be LGBT. Embracing reactionary bigotry won’t help us practically and is morally reprehensible.
>>2546929
Mike Enoch wife is Jewish
>>2546928Not sure if it’s wise for Norm to appear with Candace given she did unironic blood libel.
>>2546904same reason election days aren't a holiday. capitalism and democracy are incompatible
>>2546934She has 5 million subscribers. Help him become more popular and he's already slandered like crazy by many people anyway.
>>2546912Lenin rocking the moustache-only goes kinda hard ngl
>>2546937Btw Candace likes him a lot so it's an easy talk where he can just say anything he wants.
>>2546904It was written in the magic scrolls 250 or so years ago by pedophile planter aristocrats. I’m not even kidding. People had to travel, sometimes for several days, to reach polling places, Sunday was for God and couldn’t be a travel day and Wednesday was market day. And November is right before the frost but after the busy harvest season.
>>2546918they wield power all the time, the way their donors want them to.
>>2546937Still I think it’s important to prevent the intermingling of the Palestine movement with actual anti-semites for the sake of not giving Israel ammo.
>>2546945Also I don't agree at all. Norman benefits a lot from doing these types of interviews with such a large audience. I don't agree on him avoiding it especially since she's going to be so nice to him. I don't think you have actually watched Candace at all and think she just screams fuck jews I hate Jews!!! She actually tries to read books about the conflict and understand the issues.
>>2546950>She actually tries to read books about the conflict and understand the issuesshe's a grifter who does whatever her puppet masters cut her a check to do
>>2546950>She actually tries to read books about the conflict and understand the issues.Why is she a retard conservative then? Curious… 🤔
>>2546952Who are these puppet masters, specifically
>>2546950I mean I don’t watch Candace Owens, you’re correct, but I did listen a clip of her saying “Christian children were disappearing during Passover” in the Middle Ages with allusions towards it being part of some sinister Jewish ritual which just ain’t good.
>>2546952>>2546953I don't care what she is. She's not a socialist obviously of some expert.. She's useful for these things with such a huge platform and does not just sit there saying fuck jews she talks about the issues. At no point did I say she is some amazing brilliant person.
>>2546956She's antisemitic 100% for sure you are right yes.
>>2546959he's a meme dude who sells nicotine pouches on tiktok i've seen it before
>>2546959actually caffeine pouches mb
>>2546958Blood libel, in terms of “Jews drinking kids blood” is one of those antisemitic claims that’s so on its face absurd that I genuinely laugh at the notion, it’s peasant-brained stuff, which is why it caught me off guard when Candace alluded to it.
>>2546962Norm is free to appear on her show, he’s his own man, I’m just explaining that I personally don’t see it as a good thing and elaborating why.
>>2546965I agree she says terrible things about Jews yes.
>>2546969There shouldn't be "liberal democracy" (an oxymoron) or an authoritarian one party state. To avoid the failings of the 20th century (and ongoing), a better system would be focusing on bottom up governance where there at the top there are elections between multiple groups, but the elected party itself is hollow and primarily meant as an organ to enforce the people's will and maintain the road to socialism. That is, power originates in local councils, cooperatives, or assemblies, higher bodies are delegated upward, rather than ruling downward, and the “party” at the top is essentially a servant of the collective will, not its substitute. Thus democracy would be scaled from the ground up towards a common goal, and it wouldn't even be necessary to bar "liberal"/"conservative" groups from running because of the base-superstructure relationship; that is, once we begin the push towards socialism/lower stage of communism and people are made to see how the system is superior, the material conditions would influence the kinds of laws and parties that are even considered to be politically viable in the first place.
If we openly test this system and demonstrate to people how it works, we can iterate towards it and avoid the trap of liberal "reformism" or vanguardist ossification.
>>2546948you really think commies would be the only ones distributing aid to the masses? You'll be competing with fascists and competing bourgeoise also trying to curry their favor. Food does not win the masses over, ideas do, and communist ideas are superior to everyone elses. so why focus on inferior methods?
>>2546981I would once again like to remind people of the Galileo fallacy. Just relying on “I’m right” isn’t enough and goodwill/trust is incredibly important in political matters.
>>2546917>finance with billions the Chinese economy to trigger the Sino-Soviet split.>backfires horriblywell, now finance the USSR back, orange menace.
>>2546987I never said there wouldn't be a state because there has to be one before we get to statelessness. I accept that you need a state to provide coordination during the revolutionary transformation, but I argue that this coordination must be transparent, bottom-up, and instantly revocable, rather than as a separate, unaccountable apparatus. I don't agree with the Leninist model of political governance and transformation.
>>2546838anon you need to delete your post right now, feds lurk this thread
>>2546965Anon at some point you need to accept half this board are overt opportunists that would happily work with fascists in exchange for a copper and free press appearance that amounts to little more than Bonzo the Clown appearing on FOX News
>>2547002Thomas was so ahead of his time.
>>2547019It seems there is a divide in this
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A dispute breaks out in the Satmar Hasidic movement in New York City over which candidate to endorse in the upcoming mayoral election.
Local media reported earlier today that Rabbi Moishe Indig, a prominent leader in the Satmar Ahronim faction, was set to endorse State Assemblymember Zohran Mamdani, a far-left, anti-Israel candidate. Indig and Mamdani then met this afternoon.
Around the same time, three other leaders of the faction released a statement endorsing former New York governor Andrew Cuomo, a pro-Israel centrist and Mamdani’s leading challenger.
“The progressive movement’s crusading agenda is a threat to our ability to live as Torah Jews,” the statement says. “Please out-vote the progressive agenda and vote for Andrew Cuomo.”
“Sincerely honored by the endorsement of my good friends in the Satmar community,” Cuomo says on X. The Cuomo campaign is also claiming that the Aharonim faction endorsed him due to his “leadership and commitment to protecting their community in the face of an increasingly radicalized political environment.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/dispute-breaks-out-in-satmar-hasidic-movement-over-mamdani-endorsement/ >>2547022A separate faction of the Satmars, the Zalonim, said last week that it was not making an endorsement in the race
The movement is theologically non-Zionist, making Mamdani’s anti-Israel activism less of an issue, even if the movement is not aligned with left-wing political anti-Zionism.
>>2547023>>2547022I suspect the division between these Satmar rabbis is more over social issues. They're extra conservative and want to live like their ancestors from 19th century Lithuania.
>>2547011I'm reclaiming the commie slur
>>2547034
nice try hasbara fag you aren't gonna falseflag yourselves out of this one
>>2546849>"soulful"Joe Rogan didn't understand the joke about 'human music' in Rick and Morty
>>2547042>do your own research about Israel's enemiesand who controls the bourgeois finance imperialist media?
>>2547006Admittedly the “Galileo Fallacy” is my own invention, if only because I haven’t found a similar shorthand term for getting this idea across.
Okay, so we all know Galileo and his story about proving the earth revolves around the sun, it’s the go-to for tales of religion oppressing scientific advancement. So on.
What a lot of people don’t talk about is that Galileo did have Allies in the Vatican, up to and including having some sympathy from The Pope. Of course his discovery was treated as a delicate political matter (because of the appearance of contradicting both Church doctrine and scientific consensus at the time) but he did advocate enough to get a chance to present his case. So what did Galileo do with this opportunity? He wrote a book where he gave a caricature of his scientific rivals a name equivalent to “Mister Dumbass” and plead his case while also failing to address some of the central critiques of his rivals (namely their old model of the solar system worked and could calculate the movement of the stars, and was predicated on the sun revolving around the earth). He’d also allegedly made claims that “the Bible would have to be rewritten” which given Europe had been and in some cases still was ruthlessly tearing itself apart precisely because of interpretations of the Bible, was doing nothing but painting a target on himself.
So I use “Galileo Fallacy” as a shorthand for someone neglecting the complexities of political issues and undermining their own cause by believing merely being correct will carry them to victory.
I think the film “Thank You for Smoking” kind of shows the other side of the fallacy by showcasing how a guy whose on the objectively wrong side of an issue can, through misdirection, false equivalency, and deft manipulation of public sentiment, “win” a political struggle where he’s objectively wrong.
CPUSAnon could you make up(something other than reality) a vague physical description of yourself for my Felix/CPUSAnon Dark Yaoi fanfic? If you don't wish to I will describe you as 6'2, 280lbs 16% body fat with a short dark haircut and hazel eyes.
>>2547046>He wrote a book where he gave a caricature of his scientific rivals a name equivalent to “Mister Dumbass”Lmao, he was spiritually Marxist. Eppur si muove!
>>2547054Stalin introduced hamburgers to the Soviet Union. Google Mikoyan cutlets.
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>>2547022yeah thats just sectarian religious shit tho, different factions claiming legitimacy
>>2547065He wants them to get rid of the 60 vote rule in the senate so a simple majority is enough to pass legislation. Rethuglicans in congress are hesitant to do this because then demoKKKrats could potentially pass their own big bills when the balance changes.
>>2546869>Great Railroad Strike of 1877 mentionedI'm glad you mentioned PA as well. Lots of labor and socialist history here people forget, just like the rest of the USA I suppose. I'm partial to the Molly Maguires myself. Oddly enough they met their end in 1877 as well. Also Reading had at least one Socialist mayor. Very interesting!
Back to the Great Railroad Strike of 1877, I think it's criminal how this is covered up. American workers peacefully rose up and seized the means of production and formed communes, only to be brutally crushed by the Army.
FUCK RUTHERFORD B. HAYESALL MY HOMIES HATE RUTHERFORD B. HAYES1877 WILL COMMENCE AGAINI think a successful 1877 could make for an interesting alternate history scenario. Perhaps one day I'll make it. >>2547065>OUR DOING IT WILL NOT GIVE THEM THE CHANCE.American elections have always been a joke but they're just going to be a total sham from now on, aren't they?
>>2547048Look man, do what you like, but forgive me if I sit this one out.
>>2546896Even if we did abandon LGBT people, the dyed-in-the-wool right-wing especially the MAGA types would never support us anyway. So why should we even care about said MAGATards opinions?
>>2547048You have a moral obligation to post it here after completion
>>2546899As if they actually supported anyhting in the "THEN" section at all. They only did it as a way to get power. They are opportunists and fickle retards, only caring about it until they actually get power and were projecting hard on what they actually want to do..
>>2546849>>2546867Yeah and a lot of why AI stuff is uninteresting is because without an artist of some kind you can't really get that into it. The AI music doesn't have band members whose names and life stories you can learn, who had disagreements or drama or relationships to other AI bands. It's funny because when people envisioned automation of art they still tended to imagine that there would be some facsimile of an artist created to give the consumer something to attach to (Gorillaz, Hatsune Miku). That's because the idea came before modern media platforms and how they relate to art - these are based on traditional art industries before the internet, where the model was people seeking out art because of an artist's identity or brand.
In reality though, genAI "art" misses the point entirely of what art is supposed to be - a dialogue between the artist and the audience. The whole point is to have this act of communication and interpretation. GenAI only simulates one narrow aspect of art, which is the immediate experience of it, transitory vibes. It might be just good enough to fool your brain for a second, but if you try to engage with it more seriously, to get closer at all really, it immediately breaks down. This is true from the failure to capture details (fingers etc) to the lack of vision, intention, or technical skill driving the perception. It's not really art in the sense that most people have traditionally meant it, nor is it trying to be. Further, it's trying to
replace art.
The whole premise of genAI is that it's supposed to create disposable experiences. You scroll to a video, watch it, and scroll away. You listen to the AI song on spotify before the next one queues up. That's all it's supposed to be, because it's not about "art" at all, merely "content." It is something that only needs to keep you on the platform so it can collect data and sell ads to you. Something that qualifies at "art" might make you pause what you're consuming and think. It might make you step back and look for more information. It might make you feel something other than mild amusement and boredom that keeps you on the platform, letting it feed you more slop.
no wonder this place is so retarded this year its nothing but amerifats nowadays
Who will be VOOTing on Tuesday?
>>2547101He was married for 30 years btw
>>2547101>>2547102Living with religious people it's pretty normal for them to remarry quickly if their spouse dies. It's just the nature of going to Church every week and seeing the same people all the time. It's not unique to Christians either. I don't think it's that bad. It's not like Newt Gingrich who divorced his wife while she was dying of cancer and remarried when her corpse was still fresh.
>>2547086"AI art" isn't just AI. It is directed by real people telling the AI what they want. People obsessively adjust prompts and data sets to get specific results, then can post it for a public and so fulfill your criteria of what an artist is.
If a movie director can count as an artist when he only tells cinematographers, actors, and editors then the same can apply to AI prompters.
>>2547104Damn newt is such a awful person the more I learn about him
>>2547104>Newt Gingrich who divorced his wife while she was dying of cancerwasnt that a myth
>>2547065It means Comrade Nation-builder will reign for ten thousand years
>>2547105As someone that actually engages with AI image gen stuff I don't feel like an artist at all. I know the inner workings of comfyui, I've made my own custom setups, I've downloaded dozens of models for posing, editing, lighting, etc but none of it feels like art. It's not an artistic expression but just tweaking values in a formula. Once I'm satisfied with the image it just feels like I got the model to behave how I want it to rather than something I created myself. Like solving an equation where the answer is "big titty anime loli with tanlines" or something.
I guess there is "labor" involved but it's not artistic labor.
>>2547111>big titty anime loli with tanlinesJust outed yourself uygha
>>2547109No, it happened. She didn't die though.
>>2547114Outed myself as a hentai liker? There's nothing shameful about it.
>>2547086If you take the capitalism out of the equation, art used to be a form of self expression that speaks to deeper truths. A cultural example is the powwow where dancers don't dance for themselves but for those who can't. There's no money in it unless you count the winner getting a few hundred buc, a star quilt and some eagle feathers and it's more about honoring ancestors by celebrating culture as it's been handed down. This is a subjective case, of course. But the internet turns everything into a commodity to be consumed and then discarded, and this throwaway culture is what is destroying the arts, broadly speaking.
>>2547013Bastardising the Chinese original, with too many words.
>>2547131I wish more people wore suits and hats. Also, chuds should be denied dominion over the fedora.
>>2547111You don't feel like an artist because you are not even attempting to fulfill a larger artistic vision. This is like a director messing around with lighting and getting a few takes from some actors but not putting it together into a larger film project.
>>2547182Still not voting for Platner
>>2547188he might of worked for black rock but he'a nice nazsocdem gang :^)
>>2547182>cold rational (sic)>discordant passion>same entityPseud typed this
zohran lost
>>2546987MLoids don't read marxism as 20th century authoritarian developmentalism challenge (impossible)
>>2547200yeah marxism is a hippie orgy in Goa
>>2547202>Le other random retarded non-Marxist outlook because I can’t defend my own retarded non-Marxist outlook The purpose of Marxism isn’t to establish industry for agrarian shitholes, sorry not sorry
Nta
>>2546987POV: Out of context Lenin quote to justify my fascination with thirdoid capitalism
>>2547206I mean, most of these supposed quotes are just common sense. the bolsheviks were technically a socdem party because communist parties were illegal. this is why you should never take international internet discussion of political parties seriously, because people here have no idea what they are talking about, they can't understand the local conditions and the characteristics of foreign parties because they aren't part of that culture. they only have access to the internet spectacle
>>2547086Damn I'm a philistine because I don't care about the lives of artists or their dumb drama I always saw that as slop for the gossip mags.
>>2547245
from your link america has lower minimum wages than bulgaria israel and turkey WTF
>>2547250weird how drumpf is always innocently absent from all this to the MAGA cultists
>>2547251the good wise king being misled by his foolish advisers
>>2547253its exactly how christians think of God:
anything good that happens is because of God
anything bad that happens is because of the devil
>>2547210Each of those quotes agree with me fucking retard, case in point
>>2547232This has absolutely nothing to do with the ML retarded ass understanding of communist governance as something that exists to reproduce itself
>>2547261You're not a communist so what are you
>>2547263>No you critiqued me you aren’t a communist 😭Lmao you’re a bitch without a spine
>>2547265An anarchist then. Figures
>>2547268
bulgarian proles benefit more from american imperialism than proles in america lol
>>2547256good point and it reveals 'god emperor trump' is a meme and a joke, but not realy. also listen to those trump supporters when they verbally slip up and call trump a god, or if people are going against him say they are going against god's will.
Looking at Nigerian commentary they aren't too fond of the idea of foreign troops when all they have is a bandit problem in the less populated north east of their country where the attacks are against Muslims as well.
>>2547284I am going to Nigeria in 2 weeks. What should I expect?
>>2547287Haha, I don't have a clue. I'm just listening to their coverage.
>>2547263>you are not a real communismAbsolute state.
>>2547290He’s going to be elected and immediately cooperate with the Dem establishment openly as there will be no reason to continue the facade, and you retards will act surprised that yet another social fascist from an explicitly anti-communist organization didn’t bring the heckin revolution
>>2546898>>2546827Well its better the Army passes her around then civies in other countries. At least she'll deserve it to some extent.
>>2547296The funniest timeline would be if Zohran gets elected, continues do dickride the establishment, gets arrested or deported anyway because they think he is a gommunist for giving new yorkers treats.
>>2547255how can we blame this on the hecking third worldists, fellow communists?
>>2547291anarchists are not communists
>>2547307If you read cockshott you would know they were being unfair against the national proletariat because of wage dumping
>>2547310mls are not communists
>>2547313most sophisticated anarchist theory
>The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has told grocery stores not to give special discounts to around 42 million Americans who use food stamps.
>An email sent by the department to stores, posted on X by Catherine Rampell, co-host of MSNBC's The Weekend, said: “You cannot treat SNAP-EBT customers differently than any other customer.”
are they trying to provoke food riots?
>>2547307>things nobody said>to derail the thread again If one of these 3rd worlders cross the border into the USA to do some hard labor and barely have enough to live and send some dollars back home, do they deserve this awful treatment?
>>2547287Tell us how it goes anon
>>2547314you said some stupid shit, i'll give you some stupid shit back, it also has nothing to do with the topic of the thread
>>2547313>mls are not communistsif it was:
not all mls are not communiststhen it would be based :^)
we need to exclude haz
>>2547343Based and humanity pilled.
>>2547310>>2547313Both? Both would be good.
>>2547354kill yourself for this image
>>2547359how woukd you like to be sued
>>2547349Watched some of this video on 2x speed to see what he'd even say. At least 80% of it is him complaining that Fuentes and Tucker are mean to Jewish people and don't worship Israel enough.
>>2547354Everyone in those circles must be paranoid as fuck, I bet. They know Kirk was set up, but they don't know who else was on it. And they are all vultures anyway looking to profit from his death. However, as much as it goes against their instincts, just climbing over others may not be a good idea here.
It is very ironic situation, in which the fascist poseurs of the culture war have to keep shadow boxing against the nonexistent "radical left". Knowing that in advancing that agenda it is their side who will be killing them to bring the red scare to reality.
>>2547290Denying the holocaust of Palestinians
>>2547353rightists were really mad about this on xitter
>>2547260All the straight white people in burguerland died of mass shootings, thats why every single white supremacist today is a black jewish latino gay transhumanist.
>>2547389Wish they were as mad about children that get shot in their local schools but xitter is a zionazi botfarm anyway.
>>2547393i hate monarchists
>>2547399im so glad legacy media is dying. on the other hand we'll have a podcaster president in less than 10 years. i think im ready for that
>Fun facts about our wedding: Of course we served raw milk with the wedding cake and margaritas made with frozen peaches from our farm! Senator Rand Paul and Representatives Jim Jordan, Warren Davidson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Victoria Spartz attended
stupid people leading even stupider people
>>2547393Not sure which of these two I hate more
>>2547401>im so glad legacy media is dying.It isn't really. LEgacy media has just become downstream from social media. Perhaps not downstream, per se, as the news and scoops and leaks still rely on legacy media as outlets. It's more like well, it's in the name, "social" media.
While traditional media continues being a primary outlet of information, the techbros have enclosed the
consumption of that information. How one experiences that information in a social context and closing in on controlling the entirety of that social context as well. for online people anyway, but that's increasingly everyone as the culture war becomes more social media driven.
Legacy media is like the local restaurant bar under the influence of all these new review and delivery service middlemen which now gatekeep it's income and have muddled the market. Before it was a local thing, even deliveries. But now It's the middleman who decides what gets promoted and who gets the clients. And even if the local bar was a powerful business , it can't hope to compete, and here the analogy breaks down, because the middlemen are often government mandated monopolies deeply embedded with the security state who don't ,mind operating at any loss to secure the market share.
>>2547407This is part of the process. Mamdani has to
pretend to be just another Democrat plant in order to get in.
Trust the plan.
The
Storm Revolution is coming.
Commies are in control.
-Z
>>2547406>While traditional media continues being a primary outlet of informationAre we talking about the same traditional media? Nobody under the age of 60 goes to Fox News for breaking news and that's reflected in the TV subscriptions nobody is buying anymore, and that's how traditional media stays profitable.
Way more people in america now get their news from Tik Tok than traditional media already lol and if you look at what they report it's usually information taken from independent media accounts. Traditional media is on the verge of being irrelevant once all the boomers with TV subscriptions die
>>2547420But influencers get their takes from traditional media and aspire to become MSM figures though
>>2547428
Why did you post a link to an article that says america is behind 21 other first world countries in terms of minimum wage? Seems obvious the avg american would be enthusiastic to support changing a system they benefit less from than an avg Turkman
>>2547420Very few people still read the news paper yet they still drive the news every day, no?
>>2547430Im seeing the opposite path being taken. Tucker left his media org for a reason, and now he's more successful than ever and have more freedom of what they can say. Judge Napolitano another example
>>2547432No. What? Newspapers? Less people have a newspaper subscription than a TV subscription
>>2547411heritage foundation doesn't advocate for the killing of non-christians and imprisonment of all blacks!?!?
>>2547434>Tucker left his media org for a reasonhe was fired because of the Dominion lawsuit
>>2547436But the news, as does the food, still come from the MSM, regardless of how many middlemen do the delivery or arbitrage now. To continue that analogy, I think AI would fit nicely with the development of "ghost kitchens". But their product is still terrible.
>>2547447Where does the MSM gets its news? Not from actual reporting in the field but instead getting drip fed from countless 'anonymous officials' in whatever admin and stealing content from independent journalists on social media. I'm talking about media empires like Bari Weiss's not stuff like local news channels
Even old school reporters like Seymour Hersh stay away from MSM and have their own substack now
>>2547445Alright so it wasn't his plan initially, but look how it turned out, other pundits certainly are taking notes that it's possible to survive independently without a Media group backing you up.
>>2547413he is to the left of platner
>>2547456>without a Media group backing you up.doesn't he work for RT?
Nick is unironically political poison with hundreds of hours of saying the stupidest shit imaginable to entertain his audience. He really cant rehabilitate his image
>>2547447go and look at your countries tv broadcasters, most of their stories every day will be, admittedly by them, downstream of the papers. Most of your tick tocks and tweets will be downstream of the news broadcasters.
>>2547069>could potentially pass their own big bills when the balance changes.right, like when obomba was in charge.
>>2547451from news services like associated press, reuters. government officials. press spokesmen. intelligence agencies or agents. many of them used to moonlight as glowies and journalists at the same time.
>>2547426hahahaha, for years mocking Soviets with Chernobyl, doing soap operas, tv series, movies, etc.
now the US will be prone to have its own live-action USbyl.
>>2547460Really curious at this guy's approval ratings
honkoid status?
>>2547443They do. Fuentes is just too forthcoming about it for their liking
>>2547475*we should spend
>>2547469
Ben is doing himself no favour here. He coulda solve all of this by denouncing the Netanyahu government and push for a "Israel can be reformed" angle but he cant even do that
>>2547422>>2547418>>2547409
>Qatar is not our ally.god, for the good of Qatar I hope not.
>>2547470It's gonna happen. Los Alamos had to be shut down because of rampant work safety violations.
>>2547482It just doesn't feel authentic without some zionists spiced in there (besides Hasan) condemning Khämäs. How are jews supposed to feel safe when they aren't guarenteed that brown babies are going to be raped by other Zionists in another country
>>2547395reminder that the US political class is removing the Caesar sanctions to Syria. because effectively it's never for democracy or just to fuck over one person or small group of people. it fucks over a complete nation.
>>2547490>>2547493Zionazi Shapiro has stopped being relevant for a while now
>>2547297>corrective rape fantasiesimageboards really bring out the best in people
>>2547046>So I use “Galileo Fallacy” as a shorthand for someone neglecting the complexities of political issues and undermining their own cause by believing merely being correct will carry them to victory.oh well that term is already taken for something else
Trump is Cyrus 2.0 to resurrect Persia, the Hindu-Jewish alliance dates back to the Persian Empire
https://x.com/contramordor/status/1985144386884100278Isaiah 45 = Trump 45
Trump = Cyrus 2.0, Trump was reelected in 2024 to be NY Populist Grover Cleveland 2.0. Cleveland was the 22nd & 24th president
Hebrew Calendar ends in the year 2240 & the Sassanid Empire was created in 224 to resurrect the empire of Cyrus the Great.
Look at ancient maps! Houthi Territory in Yemen is approximate to Sassanid claims to Yemen! Druze are an offshoot of Shia Islam & Druze are allied to both Iran & Israel in Syria. The stage is being set for a Shia-Jewish alliance, something the Sunni Wahhabis have been predicting for decades.
The Jeffrey/Mossad revelations will set the stage for the US to cut off support to Israel. Chabad will get Torah Law as Torah & Sharia are reconciled. Make Halal stricter & it becomes synonymous with kosher. 15 is the age of majority under both Zoroastrian & Sharia Law, so Jeffrey's 15 year old prostitutes will be legally reclassified as adults, so no issue.
The New Testament prophecies speak to the victory of a Jewish-Roman alliance while the Old Testament prophecies speak to the victory of a Jewish-Iranian alliance. Rome/Esau/Christianity is about to die.
>>2547486and do you know what the worst part is? people won't get it in their brains. it will be memoryholed, and they will remember Chernobyl only.
>>2547407Looks like they've realized the hysterical shrieking about how Mandani will redistribute every Jewish person's toothbrush isn't working out. Now comes the efforts to co-opt and absorb him into the Democratic blob.
>>2547505naaah, bill ACK-man is pushing hard. there will be a DNC civil war.
>>2547458>>2547413when the bar is so low it makes the core of the earth look like heaven
>>2547470The two other huge industrial accidents competing with Chernobyl in terms of cost and scale are Fukushima Daiichi which is also a nuclear meltdown… and an american design from GE, and Bhopal which was owned by Union Carbide.
>>2547504When you bring that up for comparison, they just say "wHaTaBoUtiSm".
>>2547511Bhopal was insane
>>2547412There's no guarantee he will take his suggestions or give into their attempts to co-opt his campaign and administration. I am generally anti-entryism, but having even a progressive like Zohran as mayor of NYC is huge.
DeBlasio was not as 'radical' as Zohran, and this likely electoral victory is coming at a time where sentiment is already shifting conditions are more conducive to it being of significance, partially because the democratic party is so weak.
>>2547493>say no to bigotrywhat is this WOKE nonsense
>>2547527Even by Ben Garrison's standards this is some shameless ass kissing. Yeah why dont you just completely bulldoze the White House entirely and the Capital building while you're at it? That would certainly own the libtards epic style
>>2547046It's like that meme of popular physics people denying philosophy importance.
(Aged way worse now since that example includes Hawking)
>>2547527I want to find is there a red line for these people when it comes to Trump. They really don't believe in anything other than resentment.
>>2547518fucking mi6 shi.
>>2547460Can this fat sissy have a massive explosive heart (and shart) attack on stage for the world to see and die already?
>>2547540They already proved that there's no depths they wont sink to with the "defending Jeffery Epstein to own the libs" shit from last summer. Trump can literally do whatever the fuck he wants and his cult will worship it and find justifications for it
>>2547552I mean if Trump showed up at one of his sycophants house and murdered his children and wife then raped and ate their bodies would he still think the libs just got owned epically?
>>2547555If push comes to shove and Trump undeniably does something even they cant defend then they'll probably just claim it was a replica created by the Deep State and then forget about the incident a few days later
What is your Marxist analysis of the state of the USA in 2026 comrades?
>>2547527Shilling for a billionaire politician using taxpayer funds to pay for a party room for himself and his pedo buddies is some next level cuckery. Ben's come a long way from his lolbert days bitching about the federal reserve. How the mighty have fallen.
>>2547555they would quote the bible to say they forgive trump
>>2547563Even funnier considering most of the likes and "views" are botted
>>2547511>>2547519this is how imperialism looks.
And you know it's imperialism because:
1) They intentionally chose India due to their weak laws, and bribable officials.
2) The people in the US, that knew, never paid their due share of responsability.
>>2547563what is ratio here
>>2547565>>2547559That's why you don't bother to talk to these people. They will excuse everything Trump does. You only fight them, physically, it's the only language someone that broken and submissive understands.
Also to be fair if it wasn't Trump it would be another charismatic golem of capital >>2547570It is when you get more replies than likes. It's not there but it will be eventually. more people are angry at your post than how many like it
>>2547561im trying to come up with a realistic solution to the issue of foreign ownership, for example half of chicago's parking meters are owned by the UAE. they should be taken back under ownership of the city of course, but this undermines the message of international solidarity and aligns the interests the AEU bourgeois with the american bourgeois in stopping this from happening so I dunno. there's also a lot of AES investment here so not all of it can be taken
>>2547497I unironically love imageboard culture's complete lack of filter. The uninhibited human experience is beautiful.
>>2547571Yeah as much as I hate to say it there's gonna be a good 25 to 30% of the adult population which is fully in the thrall of the MAGA cult and will only accept an alternative system by repeated application of force. Even ostracizing them from civil society wont work, they'll just keep attacking communes and trying to restore the United States
>>2547561Ultra reactionary with one of the most cucked working classes known to man.
>>2547577>the message of international solidarityThis isn't a real thing and Communism is basically incompatible with the concept of "international free trade".
For example China heavily restricts who can own property in the country so Chinese citizens aren't priced out of the big cities by multinational real estate corporations.
At this point I'm convinced the only way to achieve Communism anywhere on earth is to decouple the local economy from international special interests, whether through banning foreign ownership or heavily restricting it to only fellow Communist states. Any attempt at Communism that doesn't do this will just be undermined by Capital flooding your country with immigrants and multinational corporations to exploit your best intentions.
The Canadian healthcare system for example was absolutely decimated by Americans jumping the border to get healthcare and/or Canadians fleeing to America to get better pay. You can't see a doctor without 6 months notice in Canada at this point because the international bourgeois are hellbent on crushing the system until it can be privatized. China is wary of how the bourgeois exploit open borders to do shit like this, and every other Communist state should be too.
>>2547561America only has revolutionary potential if the media can be eliminated or discredited in some way. They simply have too much influence in shaping the narrative in favor of Capital, and the public are too trusting to reject their narrative.
>>2547561Empire is collapsing and most of their residents just want to watch marvel movies, anime and eat burguer
>>2547586Isn't Nvidia already getting pushed out by Chynah? They're just gonna lose and lose no matter what happens like Tesla
>>2547562>How the mighty have fallen.mighty? mighty moron. I still remember the: sell properties of the flooded lands if the ocean grows bigger by the climate change.
even the now lib hbomberguy roasted him big.
>SELL THE PROPERTIES TO WHO, BEN, TO FUCKING AQUAMAN? >>2547563Still watching this one coz I'm so curious about the cognitive dissonance. Aha Marx was so right the bourgeois love to fight amongst themselves.
>>2547584>heavily restricting it to only fellow Communist statesi like this solution. yes to Chinese operated ports in California, no to saudi arabian owned alfalfa farms profiting in the desert
>>2547587We also want to watch pornography
>>2547593I want to buy this cap as my lord Karl Marx told me through his first Testament, Das Kapital.
>>2547593>>Also, Taiwan will eat shit.God willing.
>>2547598Marx taught me to ask my political opponents for 20 dollars.
>>2547577>im trying to come up with a realistic solution to the issue of foreign ownershipit's called taxes, retard. dont break your head from thinking too hard. the US operates like a literal fiscal paradise from investment abroad because it facilitates extraction abroad through corrupt compradores.
>>2547609>Israeli’s reacting to XWho cares, nuke Tel Aviv and stop exposing me to right wing faggotry, go to /isg/
>>2547609Smells like bullshit but it would be neat.
>>2547611so the rest of the world is imperializing america? lol
the issue you're forgetting is foreign farms mainly growing alfalfa in the Utah desert take up 80% of the states water usage and is threatening the existence of the great salt lake. I don't want them taxed, I want them gone, or at minimum creating value for the community not UAE porky. no amount of taxes is gonna make up for the lost value from that
>Fox News Falls for Racist AI-Generated Videos, Runs Completely False Story That Has to Be Updated With Gigantic Correction
the absolute state of traditional media
>>2547624Why does everyone in that video look like a huge dweeb? Maybe a future socialist state should do something with genetics so we no longer look like this. Maybe it's just the fashion.
>>2547615>so the rest of the world is imperializing america? lolno, i said that the US primary purpose of wealth extraction has foreign ownership as a side effect, what do you think capital is?
>I don't want them taxed, I want them gonehow do you think this works? if the US stops being a fiscal paradise then capital just doesnt move into the US, it's that shrimple.
Meanwhile, the right wing in Mexico is so dead that even its desperate color revolution with one piece flags failed.
>>2547624Genuinely wishing the worst upon every adult in this video
>>2547630How's the cartel situation in Mexico anyway?
>>2547627>if the US stops being a fiscal paradise then capital just doesnt move into the USwhy not say this at the start instead of some bullshit like taxes? The problem still remains since not 100% of the capital will leave
>if the US stops being a fiscal paradise then capital just doesnt move into the USSaudi arabia is not shipping over capital produced in Saudi dingus. They provide whats called financial capital, an initial cash investment that then buys all the local capital in the market they just invested in, so they're buying american made John Deer tractors owned by the Saudis. Im not sure you know what you're talking about lol
>>2547630it's almost a guarantee that the effective right wing populist mexican reactionaries are waiting for will come out of morena itself, probably Harfuch.
>>2547634it's bad. it'll always be bad until the US stops having all these law enforcement branches that operate effectively as cartels: DHS, CIA and DEA.
>>2547636>why not say this at the start instead of some bullshit like taxes? you're asking for capital controls, what do you think are taxes? you seem to have a confused view as taxes as simply a way to raise money, they actually directly control fiscal policy.
Why is a twerp like Nick Fuentes famous and who bothers to listen to him? Who funds this guy?
>>2547641>they actually directly control fiscal policyI realize that, but taxes are a tool that can't get the job done. what I want is to put all land capital that exists in the empire under the control of the american public. foreign ownership of american land and capital, produced by and worked by the american public, stands in the way of that.
But you still haven't given me a reasonable explanation why this foreign ownership of capital should be allowed to exist here at all, worked by with american labor, to have the value shipped overseas to Porky. Because they give the american state a few dollars in tax compensation? get the hell out of here
>>2547648meanwhile the city of chicago has a mountain of debt its about to go bankrupt cuz the mayor sold all the parking meters in the city for a quick buck in the 90s
>>2547656Boers last name is literally body order and hes gonna mock names
>>2547656Wasn't this guy calling Cuomo a serial killer during COVID lockdowns?
>>2547656Elon's approval is basically a kiss of death right now. Congrats on the DemSocs for New York, guys. You're only 1000 years away from socialism now.
>>2547659Forgot about this asshole, is he stupid or is he simulating concern while knowing full well the republicans are angling for a soft coup that may actually succeed.
>>2547638why do you want to convince fucking lolberts of all people as if communism was a religion lol
I was going to watch a YouTube video and first got an ad to join ice
>>2547659Luckily they don't actually believe in anything and their hyper-individualist, hyper-transactional mindset prevents them from doing anything as a group. They will fight each other, they are all idealists.
Does someone have the Bobby KotH edit?
>>2547674How do I remove them I am boomer tier
>>2547672Why aren't you using Firefox with Ublock origin on your pc and Revanced Youtube on your phone
>>2547659>bickering on twitter slows down government businessliterally how?
>>2547678Going to download ty comrade
>>2547678Revanced works again?
>>2547677Firefox + ublock origin if using a browser, newpipe or youtube revanced if using an app
>>2547682Yeah. I use it constantly and it also has the sponsorblock intigrated
https://github.com/revancedrevanced.app/download
>>2547680Also sponsorblock for PC and Smarttube for your smart tv if you have one and you cast videos on it.
>>2547684Trust the plant. Greens are in control.
>>2546943All men are created eKKKual
>>2547684Party politics are for chumps, smoke weed or something
>>2547684Probably staying home for another low turn out election or searching for another bourgeoise party
>>2547684Revolution soon fellow gatos
>>2547696
I’n not sure the problem is that the right microsect hasn’t come along with the correct line about industrialization during the Second Five Year Plan.
>>2547696>Why doesn't one exist, exactly?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USAthey're kind of assholes tho
>>2547699
>Why doesn't one exist, exactly?
Because lefty/pol/ thinks vooting is bad or fed shit or whatever
And instead of taking making a party or taking over an existing one and meeting the demands for these people, they would rather just doompost all day online
>>2547700Still not voting for Platner
>>2547699
Because Communists in America have two core beliefs
<Voting is gay
<Organizing is boring
So they just sit online and post memes.
Don’t forget to vote for Abigail Spanberger, all power to the DCCC!
>>2547699
cuz FPTP means only 2 parties are viable and is exacerbated by massive police/surveillance infrustacture and massive amts of money control everything
>>2547707
You can't struggle against the system without a strong core membership. Trying to do praxis with like 5 people will just get you arrested like those people trying to raid the ICE facility.
>>2547702They also want someone else to do the work and die for them.
>>2547713That isn't an endorsement.
Why dont we just start a communist party right here? Since leftypol seems to be the only place where real communism exists
I don’t find it particularly convincing that we are where we are because of a lack of parties with the correct line, idk
>>2547717>they have no revolutionary potential, they are a deep state funded fed op to make communists look badEuropeans said the same thing about Lenin until the October Revolution happened. Actually even afterwards there were Leftists in Russia claiming Lenin's faction were just extremists trying to destroy the movement under the direction of Germany. Fortunately they didn't survive long.
>>2547719I've advocated Leftypol getting directly involved in internet activism in some form before but no one ever seems interested.
>>2547719lets do regular zoom calls as party meetings
>>2547721retard
>>2547724lenin wasn't funded by the tsar and with ties to the black hundreds and german reich, unlike the acp
>>2547729
Beyond infantile
>>2547729
In early February 1917 the Bolsheviks had no more than a few hundred active members. By the summer of that year that number had grown to 200,000
>>2547728>lenin wasn't funded by the tsar and with ties to the black hundreds and german reich, unlike the acpacp isn't funded by the CIA they're funded by FSB most likely. their positions are pretty much always just trying to undermine the interests of the state department, and Haz/Hinkle are too popular for the CIA to think they'll "make Communism look bad" when they're literally converting groypers to the Left with their stupid bullshit.
I don't really consider the funding thing to be a legitimate criticism when you can just call them racist chuds instead of getting into conspiracy theories.
Besides if China decided to fund an upstart Communist Party in the US I'd support it uncritically.
>>2547735I don't think ACP is operated by glowies for the most part but hinkle and tulsi had or has a social connection
>>2547733I think we will see something similar happen as the legitimacy of the system collapses. People turn to revolutionaries when survival necessities revolution.
>>2547724I mean I'd be down for it, if nothing else I'm tired of everyone just being mean to each other on here constantly and I would like for us to actually do something productive for a change. Even if it just starts as like a zoom call with the 20 or 30 people who visit this thread per week (generous estimate, I know) we could at least get a plan of action together. It's better than nothing.
>>2547735>converting groypers to the Leftthey're not doing this because the acp are not "the left", they're just fascists with left talking points, like strasserites
>Besides if China decided to fund an upstart Communist Party in the US I'd support it uncritically.retarded, going from capitalist usa to capitalist china is not the goal, the goal is socialism. besides, the PSL is basically funded by china anyway so go join them and piss away chinese yuan on nothing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation#Neville_Singham >>2547740yes exactly this. which is why the primary task should be networking with other marxists so we're prepared when the people are ready to turn away
>>2547749>look how successful Chinese Communism is, more people than ever before are owners of private property!So this is the power of Dengism
>>2547752So all we can aspire to is more capitalism then but with red flags. Great, I'll get ready to kill myself right now because the future is bleak
>>2547749the ccp turned china from semi-feudal into capitalist, so of course you're going to see line go up. but they will never be able to turn capitalism into socialism, largely because they don't want to (it would remove their personal privilege), same as other "AES"
>>2547753
>China is imperialist
Explain please
>>2547761Can you point to what part of China is Capitalist?
>>2547765Gee I dont know, maybe the fact that the sudden influx of posters telling us how perfect China is are using its fucking homeownership rates as proof of its success?
>NEW: The Trump administration told a judge it will comply with an order to fund US food aid benefits for November during the government shutdown, but only at 50% of the amount eligible households would normally receive, and with a warning it could take weeks or months to implement
<months
>>2547769Even if you think China is socialist there's no reason to expect that it's going to "save" us, that's a fantasy at best and actively harmful to making a revolution possible here by offloading all responsibility onto another country. We should be focusing on shit happening HERE rather than pining after some other country and trying to copy its model. I'm so fucking sick of being told that we have no revolutionary potential or that we need to wait for JDPON or that actually capitalism is socialism if you believe hard enough so just wait for China to impose its model on us in a couple of centuries.
le heckin zohranerino
So on that note, are we actually seriously going to do a zoom call to come up with a plan of action or are we just going to spend our remaining days arguing about China?
>>2547768
Sauce?
>>2547775China is not going to directly save the USA
What they are going to do is shit like
>>2547593>>2547766that will kill US imperialism, forcing Americans to save themselves or adapt to the new world order.
>>2547778wym we already had the call
>>2547778Is Zoom secure and encrypted?
>>2547775The U.S. is doing cold war 2.0 against China and them winning that war by forcing the capitulation of the U.S. is the only chance you have of ever doing anything useful.
where the FUCK did ISG go
>>2547782Probably not but unless you've got a better option for a group video conference we'll have to make do with what's available
>>2547766Exactly, this is why France is socialist and not imperialist (they make factories and ports in Africa and have laws against capitalist things like planned obsolescence)
>>2547787Why do we need a video conference instead of just a text chat?
>>2547780>forcing Americans to save themselves or adapt to the new world orderOh no, there isn’t going to be a new world order, or at least not one that will last a decade. No one in the world has actual dedicated the resources for such a thing. Too much nihilism in leadership to get anything done. The actual choices Americans have are either creating their own salvation or going extinct.
>>2547703
>There are Communist parties that participate in bourgeois electoralism, such as the PSL, and they are still tiny and irrelevant.
Then why not make them more popular and state wide?
>>2547790From my experience shit is more productive and less likely to be derailed by bad faith actors and wreckers if at least some of us are able to hear each other's voices or see each other. It'll help keep tensions down in case of a disagreement on theory and tactics so we're not reduced to just calling each other faggots over and over.
>>2547792Because it’s a waste of precious time we don’t have.
>>2547785
Why was this reported?
>>2547806why are these people so much more willing to kill for their retarded ideas than leftists
>>254780699% of Islamist extremists are right wing thoughever
>>25478061. Islamic extremists are, for all intents and purposes, far right extremists, just from "another culture" outside the imperial core
2. Even ignoring point 1, I bet "far right" is even higher than is betrayed in this study. Are they counting, for example, Peyton Gendron, Nikolas Cruz, Patrick Crucius, and Dylan Roof as "far right?" If not they should.
>>2547749> china is doing keynesian welfearismYeah…?
>>2547807because they don't understand base/superstructure and think you can fix society by shooting up random black people in a church or random hispanic people in a wal mart.
>>2547630>that even its desperate color revolution with one piece flags failed.what are you even talking about
>>2547724>I've advocated Leftypol getting directly involved in internet activism in some form before but no one ever seems interested.Could go the Substack route to start off, seems pretty popular these days among the journalism sphere.
Auto-translated: Anastasiia, didn't I say that from your words, he was killed by the commentators? That's nonsense. It's not a "minor thing," I just frankly don't understand the point of this complaint in the midst of a serious discussion.
You say, "the guy was quite adequately and thoroughly criticizing idiocy…", but that's not true! He made provocative statements in a rather dense and rough manner, supporting the Nazi theory of "Cultural Marxism" and attacking any people in the education system whom he could accuse of "leftist propaganda."
His organization, Turning Point, has also been accused of providing a platform for ultra-right activists who espouse racist ideas.
His "Professor Watchlist" from TPUSA targets academics accused of promoting "leftist propaganda," including those who teach about systemic racism or critical race theory. This intimidates scholars and suppresses honest discussions about race in America.
And yet, he is an influential person who rubs shoulders with the US President ("the leader of the free world") and broadcasts his propaganda to a huge audience.
Before his death, Kirk was answering a question from the audience—he was asked if he knew how many gender-nonconforming Americans had committed shootings in the last 10 years. Kirk said, "too many." He was told—five, and it was clarified how many mass shootings there had been in America in total during that period (more than 700). This is literally an example of his slander aimed at inciting hatred against marginalized groups.
In his speeches, Kirk often shifted the focus from gun control to cultural and ideological problems—he claimed that the left ignores violence committed by certain groups and exaggerates other forms of violence. His rhetoric was aimed at spoiling the narrative that white right-wingers are the main threat in mass shootings. But they are!
America is choking precisely on ultra-right terror, but reactionary propagandists like Kirk actively divert attention to some isolated, invented stories, around which they have generated a lot of lies and speculation.
And it's the same with any problem. Gun deaths? He steers the topic to anything but a discussion of gun control. Systemic racism in the US? Again, he constantly steers the topic away and tries to downplay its significance.
Hitler and the Nazis pushed the conspiracy theory about "Cultural Bolshevism"—that the forces of world Bolshevism were attacking traditional conservative values for world domination.
Now, American ultra-rightists are pushing the topic of "Cultural Marxism." An absolutely analogous, myth-based conspiracy theory, literally one-to-one.
Of course, this has been picked up by many right-wing bloggers, and it has reached our circles as well.
>>2547735>LaRouchism is Russia's faultMan Americans really can't ever blame their own government
>>2547787>Probably not but unless you've got a better option for a group video conference we'll have to make do with what's availableJitsi. Use Jitsi. It's the standard for video conferencing in Europe, plus open-source, self-hostable, and E2EE.
>>2547753
stupid nafoid
>>2547831
he shakes hand with the chief burger who destroys the empire through his malice and incompetence
>>2547830Curiously the author was a board member for the American-Ecuadorian Chamber of Commerce and a Kennedy School of Government alumni 🤔
>>2547824dfsjajklsafjadskfDSADFS:ADFJDFIAWFHAWEJAWFEJAFJ THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO AND ALL I GET IS PEOPLE CHIMING IN WITH HOW GREAT CHINA IS AS IF THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE STRIVING FOR AND THAT MAKES OUR STRUGGLE FOR A COMMUNIST AMERICA IRRELEVANT
Oh my fucking Marx you people are damn near impossible to work with, and then you have to rub in the fact that we're getting nothing done on top of everything else
>>2547822Interesting, I'll look into that
>>2547835burgers always have to make
their thread about China Bad and ISG good because they don't want to do anything about the burger question.
>>2547836This shit always starts because when people start talking about getting organized some retard comes in yapping about how we shouldn't be trying to do anything because China has perfected the system and then when people respond with criticisms of China suddenly it's "hey hey hey nobody's perfect maybe work on yourself before criticizing other nations huh?" like bitch what do you think we want to do? Do you think we like this shitty country? Do you think we enjoy waking up every day living in this Lynchian hellscape of capitalism where we live and die based on the whims of the profit margin, where we live with the knowledge that much of our labor that we do to survive is ultimately serving the purposes of strengthening the state and its ability to wage war across the planet? Do you think that's fun for us? Because it's not. I am America's number one hater and I will rip this motherfucker apart when I get the chance because life here is miserable for almost everyone especially the people I care about. Either get with the program or get the fuck out of the way because we actually have to get serious here or we all die. No ifs ands or buts
>>2547835Do you have any ideas for things we can do before committing to a groupchat?
Like, what is the online Left missing that we can fill? Or what can we do to bridge the gap between online and irl activism that groups like DSA fail at?
I'm curious, I have some ideas myself but I wanna know what other anons think we should focus on.
>>2547839Well if we're committing to the bit, then we need to have both above ground and underground operations. A front organization that does shit through legal channels as a cover for a party/org that seeks to bring communism to this cursed land by whatever means possible. The main idea I have is working with local public libraries due to their increased focus on being community centers outfitted with all sorts of free services and the general antipathy the vast majority of people who work in that industry have towards the far right, and yes this doesn't necessarily translate into them being pro-socialist but it does mean they'll be more receptive to our front groups.
Seriously though I'm fucking sick of talking about China especially outside the China thread. China this, China that, well I'm China start a revolution over here and liberate the people from the chains of capitalism
>>2547843Problem with working with existing groups like libraries is your mileage will very much vary by location. Doing it in big cities is fine and all but those places aren't really lacking activism already. Doing it in the deep south will just get you lynched or banned because libraries are still primarily funded and serve the "interests" of the local community.
I kinda wanna suggest something more clandestine, like producing images that can be used to print fliers and then plastering them all over your town, something an individual can do to promote the Left. These should be highly specific to the location/community though so it doesnt come off like we're just carpetbaggers. Things like leftist gun rights in the south, tenant rights in the west coast, anti-ICE shit in the southwest.
This wouldn't really accomplish much on its own, lots of other groups already do it, but I think we need to take a firmly Marxist, anti-Imperialist approach that is openly critical of the Democrats, DSA, etc and portrays "Leftypol" or whatever group we attribute it to as outside of partisan US politics.
>>2547838>people start talking about getting organized some retard comes in yapping about how we shouldn't be trying to do anything because China has perfected the systemi have never so much as seen this happen once. can you point to a single example of a person saying "china is perfect so americans shouldn't have a revolution?"
In fact, pic related says the opposite.
>>2547846> well I'm China start a revolution over here and liberate the people from the chains of capitalismThe People's Republic of Tryna
>>2547846Sorry sweety but the unipolar moment is done so you will be hearing more and more about China and you will be happy.
>>2547845
what drones
>>2547824I suppose he never spoke badly of Germany, the UK or France then
>>2547847It's true that not all areas will be receptive but I figure we should focus on organizing in urban and diverse areas anyways where the already existing liberal attitudes will give us easy cover and a larger population of potential new members to choose from. We gotta go to where people sympathetic to socialism are, and it's sure as hell not rural Alabama. But that's just my two cents on this, and this is why it's all the more important that those of us who care actually have a physical conversation with each other over what to do. Someone mentioned Jitsi earlier, I could try setting something up for like the weekend or whatever's convenient
>>2547780It's so sad that to find aspirational slogans I have to dig into songs and speeches from the last century, because nowdays all you spout is nationalism.
>>2547829
Yeah those weapons just spawned there lol
>>2547875Would you like to invest in a bridge?
>>2547902>principles have been tested for over a thousand years,what did he mean b y this?
>>2547902>I would much rather see a democrat, who has had a record of success win than a communistThe irony of trump of all people saying that
I'm glad mamdani is making everyone seethe
>>2547902they're gonna sabotage him and then they're gonna tell all the dumb burgers that he failed because communism (he's not even a communist) is inherently flawed and doesn't work and all the "progressive" democrats will march meekly back into the neoliberal camp and another century of normal USAnian politics will be ensured. but this coming century of USAnian politics will bring about the end of the world!!!!!!
>>2547902>His principles have been tested for over a thousand yearsHuh?
>>2547907A lot of the far right in general sees communism as a nebulous evil force invented by Satan which pops up whenever big government happens. I've seriously seen people call the Catholic Church "early communism" because "the Inqusition hunted Christians just like the NKVD did"
>>2547906sorry i shoulda said the end of humanity on earth haha
>>2547908It'd be interesting to see a list of all the things that have been accused of being communist over the years. Socialism is communist, yes, but so is capitalism, and small business, but also big businesses and no businesses, and small government, or no government, but also big government. And Obama was a communist, and also Trump, and also Eisenhower. And drinking and driving laws, and drivers licenses too.
>>2547965No features
No Swedish songwriters
No trap beats
100%
PURE UNCUT ROCK >>2547684imma gen Z male and there's been a noticeable uptick in ppl asking me about socialism and marxism in recent years, at least in my general milieu. I think it just an effect of holding a basic and consistent class struggle first line regardless of who wins the elections, hating on both parties and not demanding everyone vote for your parasocial candidate and the fact that if you actually apply the materialist conception of history you'll look like a goddamn Cassandra tier prophet compared to every online and legacy media pundit in the US. I constantly find myself resisting the urge to say "I told you so" .
>>2547965I'm lowkey kinda pissed off that it's the far-right that have completely taken up the anti-Israel mantle because the American Left are too afraid of being called antisemites to do any kind of campaigning beyond "peace" protests instead of ykno, getting Israel out of our country's politics entirely.
Yes yes I know "Israel is America's colony in the Middle East" and "The little satan and the great satan are one and the same" but even so, if you want to campaign on this issue to the American public you need to frame Israel as the enemy power and point to all our tax dollars going to them instead of Americans who need it.
Fuentes is still a faggot nazi though and you should go back to /isg/.
>>2547969I suppose it's only fitting that a gay Mexican would be Hitler Youth chief in America.
>>2547969>I'm lowkey kinda pissed off that it's the far-right that have completely taken up the anti-Israel mantle because the American Left are too afraid of being called antisemites to do any kind of campaigning beyond "peace" protests instead of ykno, getting Israel out of our country's politics entirely.everyone should just flat out take bad empanada's position on "antisemitism", it's the only way out of probably THE most effective deadlock in politics.
>>2547901just a few weeks ago lutnick was saying it was hecking good that china makes all the stuff and america makes none of it because "we're the world's CONSOOOMER" and "they need us to CONSOOM more than we need them to produce."
Naturally this made no sense and fell apart very quickly and now he is saying get back in the factory.
>>2547340did u made this?
>>2547838>This shit always starts because when people start talking about getting organized some retard comes in yapping about how we shouldn't be trying to do anything because China has perfected the system and then when people respond with criticisms of China suddenly it's "hey hey hey nobody's perfect maybe work on yourself before criticizing other nations huh?" like bitch what do you think we want to do? I think a contradiction around this is that an important part of Dengism and now post-Dengism has been to depoliticize things to a great degree. It doesn't really strike me as a government that likes people forming groups to agitate for things outside of their control. Which was the opposite of the Maoist period where political struggle was a daily thing under the theory that a lot of political clashes in a short period of time would rapidly accelerate the country's transformation. On the other hand, it was probably inevitable that it would turn to its opposite like that. I'm just not sure what "model" I'm supposed to follow here other than being good at my job or maybe joining my town's planning and economic development commission or something. Which is not a bad idea, but it's not really political struggle. Not like we're doing Maoist-style political struggle here in the U.S. either, but I have a feeling that some very pro-China types might end up depoliticizing themselves which would be a funny plot twist. Just a thought.
>>2547969>I'm lowkey kinda pissed off that it's the far-right that have completely taken up the anti-Israel mantle because the American Left are too afraid of being called antisemites to do any kind of campaigning beyond "peace" protests instead of ykno, getting Israel out of our country's politics entirely.I think the left already had this fight in 2024 though. I'm also extremely cynical when it comes to the right. Like they're having this fight now, but Trump and Bibi have their ceasefire and hostages back, so does it really matter? Maybe in the future J.D. Vance gets Nick Fuentes to supply groypers for his 2028 run because he says he supports "free speech." Fuentes is like, don't cross us! But all that matters to these guys is getting power anyways. Once they're in power, they will betray those who think they have any principles and start this process all over again.
>>2547996I am a nicker fag observer and JD Vance could say Israel is committing genocide and take there funding and nick would still hate him. When nick hates someone he tries to destroy them. He spent so much effort trying to make bronze age pervert look terrible. With joe Kent the political who mildly supported him then condemned him he even made a website called joe Kent cia to try his hardest to make the democrat he was facing win
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/02/17/how-nick-fuentes-dashed-joe-kents-congressional-hopes-delighting-democrats/ >>2547998This btw is why he destroys his progress constantly cause he ruins bridges over the smallest disagreement. For example him and Candace owens clearly agree on a lot and he attacks her non stop cause he does not like her. He also wants to be the center of attention with his topics so when someone dives into his area of being right wing anti Israel he often targets them. Sometimes he makes up with them but he always ends up alone cause he goes after people so easily then sends his army of groypers at them. If he did not do this he would have so much more support. Bad empanada is the exactly the same in this attacking people who could be allies
Bad empanada is fantastic at researching and presenting information as well as he gives unique takes that take balls to say about conflicts that no one else will which is super interesting but he annihilates himself with feuding over smallest differences like trying to destroy Hasan when agree on most things. He even needed a second channel to post stuff on and would troll on reddit
This makes associating with Nick tough as you have to keep a distance cause he's so toxic. Bad empanada ends up with same thing. It's unfortunate it is like this. Btw I support bad empanada anyway, take the good and throw out the bad
>>2548001There was one twitter girl called Morgan Ariel who went so hard for nick being super antisemitic after being some tpusa person and shilling for him when few would and over some small thing he started insulting her for being a single mom and sent all his followers at her to target her then he loses this unpaid supporter.
>>2547998Btw though Richard hanania who's insight I enjoy reading despite obviously I don't agree on a lot but he has a good finger on the pulse about culture and what may happen. He's really confident that the groypers will pretty much eat the gop alive and he thinks bannon will grow too with them
https://unherd.com/2025/11/its-the-groypers-america-now/https://www.richardhanania.com/p/why-republican-normies-will-bend >>2547995OpenAI wants to protect itself from legal consequences of the inevitable time chatgpt will say to someone with the flu to drink sulfuric acid or someone wrongly accused of a crime to take a plea deal. Actually people already died following AI health "advice".
>>2548004I stopped using chat gpt and now use perplexity. If you have a PayPal account or venmo it will give you 1 year of service for free which is worth 240 dollars.
https://newsroom.paypal-corp.com/2025-09-03-Skip-the-Waitlist-PayPal-and-Venmo-Users-Offered-Early-Access-to-Perplexitys-New-Comet-Browser-with-Free-Perplexity-Pro-SubscriptionI have used it a lot for medical things with my dog and it has been super useful.
>>2548005Although I cross reference what it says with my actual searches on top of it. I take it with a grain of salt
>>2548007
dengbot detected, terminate yourself
>>2547998>>2548001That's pretty interesting. You're a far better observer of this than I am.
>>2548019
it's amnesty international, retardo
>>2548017Got up this morning, things weren't working right.
I said "I wanna make a change," I said "I wanna fight."
Mamdani walked up and said "Yes we can,"
I said "I wanna ride your nuts 'cause I think you're the man!"
Now I'm dick riding
Mamdani, Mamdani
Now I'm dick riding
Mamdani, Mamdani
Now I'm dick riding
Mamdani, Mamdani
Now I'm dick riding dick riding dick riding dick riding
Dick riding for tomorrow, dick riding for today.
Dick riding for the straight, dick riding for the gay.
Dick riding for America, dick riding for Iran.
It's okay to ride that dick just as long as it's Zohran's!
And now we're dick riding, dick riding!
>>2547902>openly showing uniparty relations and bourgeois class solidarity Lol
>>2548023>>2548024fuck I love boondocks
>>2548027Focus on getting more revolutionary direct action involved, but otherwise yes.
>>2548027Accelerationism will almost certainly only lead to capitalism getting even worse at best or fascism at worst. We need a socialist movement to present a clear bulwark/alternative and smash the system.
>>2548032that's not what accelerationism means… but you should honestly do it just for the sake of it, costs nothing (or if it does, very little) after all
>>2548036republic of new york city in exile - mamdaniist faction
>>2548034Thinking you can hasten capitalism's demise by heightening its contradictions and the suffering it creates is one variant of it. If Trump goes full fascist in response to socdems we won't magically get socialism, things are much more likely to just get worse.
>>2548036NYPD is the most well funded, biggest, and most powerful police force, so much so that Zohran had to walk back most of his criticisms of it, so unfortunately that won't happen. Especially with how hard it is to get guns in NYC. More likely the NYPD, ICE, and National Guard turn NYC into a black box concentration camp.
>>2548032Someone needs to brush up on what contradictions are. This is exactly what we’ve been waiting for.
>>2548034Everything has a cost.
>>2548043>we won't magically get socialismWe won’t magically fail at abolishing the present state of things either.
>>2547902>other than the very minimumhuh? HY state, as a whole, is a contributing state, not a receipt state. the minimum would be nothing to NYC. he needs to sanction NY, lel.
everything else, is the regular two-party system accusing each to the other of being communist.
>>2547901yeah, sure, you will copy the Chinese model.
except you don't have unions to make the conditions the appropriate conditions, and you'll turn the factories in modern-day plantations.
>>2548043For you it's preferable the state remain stable? Why wouldn't I want trump to unleash authoritarianism and prove to the people democracy was a farce all along? Sharpening the contradictions is the best way to unveil false consciousness
>>2548048More like they wouldn't exist at all of they can't get labor prices down
>>2548048also if america reindustrializes it will have to sacrifice its world reserve currency hegemony, which is dependent on it importing commodities and exporting currency. trump thinks he can keep world reserve currency status AND reindustrialize but they are mutually exclusive goals. This is why china doesn't pursue currency hegemony (despite many china haters insisting they want it) because currency hegemony is ultimately a poison pill that makes you weak and dependent on others in exchange for a very temporary privilege
Currency hegemony made the Dutch and British empires week before America.
>>2548048also it will take DECADES to reindustrialize, especially without central planning
>>2548049No, I'm saying that destabilizing the system when we have no clear, organized, unified communist alternative that we can present as a direct bulwark against the fascist state will only lead to the USA being swallowed up by fascism. Think about, for example, Gaddafi's Libya. Was he a piece of shit? Yes. But killing him just to steal their resources and not actually caring enough to implement any alternatives to him only lead to the collapse of internal order, a massive refugee crisis, militias running around fighting each other… even after all this time, Libya is no better off than it was a decade ago. If we have no clear alternative vision to present the people, fascism will not be spontaneously defeated. It didn't work in any of the fascist WW2 countries despite them having even more internal and external pressure, it didn't work in WW1 countries when people were literally starving and on the brink, and it won't suddenly work here.
Our actions have to be based on a clear, rational understanding of the situation backed by popular support, rather than spontaneous actions and adventurist impulses, or the cause will just be crushed even more. This is what makes "scientific" socialism scientific.
>>2548053There is no "reindustrializing." When the USSR fell people didn't just go back to feudalism. Societies don't go backwards in development; they either move forward or have mass die-offs that create the conditions to move forward once enough resources go up for grabs.
>>2548049>Why wouldn't I want trump to unleash authoritarianism and prove to the people democracy was a farce all along? Once you've got a state with that kind of power, you can't control what it does, you can only do what those fuckheads tell you to do, because if you don't, they'll wrap your face in a plastic bag and kill you (along with your friends and family members kneeling next to you) while they're playing Taylor Swift from a portable stereo or something. That's how you'll go out. You don't want to be beaten, gassed, or shot, interned or deported, do you? Well, if you have a reasonable chance of getting away with disobedience, resistance, etc. as we do right now, you have no obligation not to, in this situation.
>>2548048>>2548052An America that reindustrializes is an America that is incentivized to burn money.
>>2548053I see five to ten years without monetary incentive or central planning.
>>2547902Strongest evidence that Zohran is a Democrat psyop lel
Zohran is just gonna be
Zoomer[1] coded DeBlasio with a rainbow coating and a mail nemesis relationship with Netanyahu half the planet away(liberal Zionist).
1. Sorry, I meant
"Gen-Z". We gotta have a respectable name for the generation "doing" all those
color revolutions.
Nobody could read a
>"Zoomers overthrow the government in another east Asian country and install a neoliberal economist backed by the military junta." Over and over again, with a straight face, after the generational idpol barrage that the word "Zoomer" has been associated with.
>>2548060
You shouldn't take anything NYPost takes seriously. It's basically just a tabloid that spouts 24/7 groyper propaganda, since it's funded by Murdoch.
>>2548061Yeah, we're in the beginnings of the mass die-off stage.
The USA will never reindustrialize. They will never bring back the 1950's "white picket fence nuclear family on a single high school graduate income" or whatever. It's just gonna be a lotta people fucking dying until Americans get tired of it and decide to move forward.
>The governor of Texas announced that he will impose a 100% tariff on those moving from New York.
>>2548065>until Americans get tired of it and decide to move forward.Already happened.
>>2547912imagine if trump sanctions nigeria and a couple dozens millions of christians fall into even deeper poverty because of this washed up plastic whore
>>2548065>>2548056how to have proletarian revolution if we don't re-proletarianize? what if de-industrialization was the real step backwards and it already happened?
>>2548071You don't need manufacturing to have a proletariat.
>>2548072>>2548071Yeah, we got a lot of neets, impoverished college students, service workers, drug dealers, impoverished unemployed college graduates, the homeless, gig workers, and more
>>2548045>Someone needs to brush up on what contradictions are. This is exactly what we’ve been waiting for.I hope you're not too surprised when nothing comes out from worsening conditions and heightened contradictions. I dont expect the US proletarian to organize any time soon, they will sooner accept poverty wages rather than accept anything even remotely close to international solidarity. you guys need to accept that the american left is more useless than a marzipan dildo
>>2547834>>2547830It's funny af that people say that China, a country that hasn't gone to war since 1979, is the real imperialist.
>>2548059>An America that reindustrializes is an America that is incentivized to burn money.I am not sure that's bad. but as these comrades said:
>>2548052>>2548051it's not possible for the US as it is to re-industrialize with labor wages as high as they are, and the situation is a consequence of the
exorbitant privilege the US dollar has.
>>2548076>they will sooner accept poverty wagesAlready happened. Now they can’t even get that.
>you guys need to accept that the american left is more useless than a marzipan dildoTrue communists fight the tide no matter what. And besides, things aren’t as bad as you think they are. We have a lot of things going for us underneath the mainstream.
>>2548072so we'll have a revolution of service sector workers?
>>2548083>it's not possible for the US as it is to re-industrialize with labor wages as high as they are, and the situation is a consequence of the exorbitant privilege the US dollar hasWhich is why labor wages will be abolished wholesale when reindustrialization happens. They can no longer sustainably coexist with industry.
>>2548084>True communists fight the tide no matter what. The original post expected heightened conditions would naturally lead to revolution, I was being a bit of a jerk, but your takeaway should be anyone's takeaway, conditions can grow even worse and nothing will come of it unless you organize. The proletarian is just not guaranteed a victory through sheer material conditions alone, that's an article of faith.
>>2548059>An America that reindustrializes is an America that is incentivized to burn money.America will eventually have to produce its own commodities once it no longer has world reserve currency hegemony
>>2548254All the people that would be producing commodities cannot pass a drug test or show up to work sober
Americans are too fat to have real jobs in a factory, a field, or a mine. Taking them out of the cubicle is like taking ice out of the freezer.
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