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>>2552955Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet A way out? We're going to blast our way through the walls of the highest redoubts of the bourgeoisie
>>2554319>haha a reactionary contradicted themselves wowoh a god can the liberals just keep that shit to themselves? people should know that's normal by the time they're 15.
If I were a porky pig, I'd just hire bot farms to flood the zone with this slop to distract everyone. cheaper than marvel films.
>>2554332Nah. Liberals love the high they feel every time they "catch" a reactoid being hypocritical or contradictory. They think that eventually they're going to catch them and expose them being so bad that they'll just collapse in on themselves from the sheer force of liberal moral rectitude. You might as well ask a shark not to swim.
presinald trunt
>>2554343Go ahead, make my day.
>>2554336Yep. Oh, the screeching. "That's an illegal invasion!" "Police are gonna get sued!", "Mayor please save us!", it's actually disturbing to see. My copium is hoping all these are dead-internet bots…..
Attaching le old copypasta for those who haven't yet read it.
>>2554336During OWS I remember libs unironically saying "if they [cops] attack us, we win". Some victory eh
>cutting away more gov programs, treats and workers laws the Reagan
Gonna say it again, Trump is the most lolbertarian president thus far
>>2554350with pleasure >:3
>>2554363>sitting without unbuttoning your suit jacketTsk tsk, what happened to class?
>>2554350 >>2554365First leftypol death since self-incineration anon finally stopped posting.
>>2554365Haa, you prove me right once again, moralist. I win.
nihilism is an inhuman and unsocial ideology. nihilists must be dragged out onto the street and shot
>>2554370i mean you can just replace "anti-semite" with "nihilist" in Sartre's famous essay quote and it would apply just as well.
>>2554375nice fantasy but you'll never do it
>>2554375This is just reactionary
>>2554378I mean you can replace it with literally any word you want, nobody is going to stop you.
>>2554381Nihilists wouldn't care. How hard could it possibly be lamo
Is the Trump admin secretly based for exposing how fucking shameless and evil capitalists are for exploiting proletariats to maximize profit? It really feels like we're reaching a breaking point with how much chud BS Americans are willing to take before a revolution breaks out. Marxist feedback on my thoughts?
>>2554388How many modern nihilists know about a fucking Russian from 1869. Intellectual nihilism don't make me laugh
>>2554390william blum already exposed that in killing hope but americans don't read books
>>2554391I said you could, not you should.
>>2554392>How many modern socialists know about a fucking German from 1869. Intellectual socialism don't make me laugh >>2554396Pretty sure you're not nihilist you're just emo and depressed which is an OK thing to admit
>>2554390unless he imposes a third term, they will just vote for the democrat next term
i know nechayev called himself nihilist but i think americans don't understand that russian narodnik nihilism is completely different than what most people mean by nihilism today.
just like americans think communism is when you do rooseveltian trust busting and welfare capitalism and return to small competition.
which is funny because american socialists hate the chinese for doing welfare capitalism, but at least the chinese don't also try to RETVRN to pre-monopoly capitalism which is just developmentally backwards.
like do you really want to return to a situation where every new technology is guarded jealously by small firms in competition with each other or do you want that tech to spread through the society as quickly as possible? This is why lenin advocated seizing state capitalist monopoly without breaking it up.
>>2554390Vice President J. D. PON and the Dump are… well not exactly based, but
real ones. Yes, they aren't the cowardly porky we are used to in modern times, but unrestrained ego there for all to see and recognize. Unapologetic. Shameless. Proud. Pathetic.
>>2554392Any Camus-cucks here?
>>2554404>narodnikyoung lenin moment. glad he grew out of it after a few years.
>>2554404>like do you really want to return to a situation where every new technology is guarded jealously by small firms in competition with each other or do you want that tech to spread through the society as quickly as possible? This is why lenin advocated seizing state capitalist monopoly without breaking it up.you make a good point but don't state capitalist monopolists also jealously guard trade secrets? and also sometimes I do see small business and cooperative owners sharing ideas with each other. maybe not back when teddy roosevelt did trust busting, but these days everyone shares ideas and techniques with each other on social media.
>>2554396>>How many modern socialists know about a fucking German from 1869. Intellectual socialism don't make me laugh>_><_<embarrassingly few, to be honest.
>>2554315what does the black line represent?
>>2554404I won't deny the influence Chernyshevsky had on all the european thinkers of the time but if not recognizing the point of the institution of marriage makes one a nihilist it kinda makes the term meaningless since a ton of people don't
>>2554410don't you think nechayev in particular was an important influence on leninism, in particular on the idea of "professional revolutionaries"? vladimir bonch-bruyevich (lenin's personal secretary) does mention lenin talking positively about nechayev and his ideas but it's all second hand
>>2554411I just don’t understand why a either or choice for centralization and decentralization. Absolutely key industries like healthcare, military, housing, and food should be under a centralized economic authority. But I think media and like a bicycles or other consumer goods are fine to be run by semi-independent co-ops. Shit like social media and Amazon prolly shouldn’t exist in the first place.
>>2554421I won't deny that, I'm not claiming that ineffective ideologies can't have useful ideas or lessons emerge from them. I despise the 'team sport' culture some have around ideas and ideology.
>>2554422One single social media platform should exist but it should be fenced off to only your town/city until you're a certain age
>>2554404>which is funny because american socialists hate the chinese for doing welfare capitalismI really don't see active "hatred" for the chinese among American socialists. Of course you'll get some falling for the ridiculous "muh authoritarianism" nonsense, but there's not this seething hatred for them as far as I see.
That said:
>>2554375I think it really depends what kind of nihilist we're talking about here. 'Cause in the Nietzschean sense they're kind of correct about things like "good" and "evil" not really being an objective force in the universe. Plenty of the non-intellectual counterpoints to them are these ridiculous exclamations like "SO WHAT, IF I MURDERED YOUR FAMILY YOU WOULDN'T SAY THAT'S EVIL?! YOU WOULD SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I KILLED YOU?!" Which, I mean, is just appeals to emotion. It's not that "it doesn't matter" or "evil doesn't exist" means you'd be unbothered by being killed, I see it more as "there aren't any guard rails keeping that from happening." If a guy gets hit by lightning and dies, well that's just the random chaos of the universe. It'd be devastating for his loved ones for sure, but the world doesn't stop spinning.
Honestly I think having some understanding or conception of that kind of nihilism is incredibly important and its extremely frustrating to see so many people
don't. Because ultimately it means they give into what amounts to mythological and "moral" narratives that lead to stupid conclusions. Like people genuinely think we beat the Nazis because "they were evil and we're good" and not because of shit like logistics, resources, strategy. I've pointed out to Anarchists before (much to their consternation) that a good barometer for their ideas is measuring them up to the final boss of reactionary intervention: Fascism. How would they defeat a Fascist state intent on subjugating them without fundamentally undermining their principles?
You have a volunteer army? Well the Fascists will conscript theirs, who do you think will have more stable manpower? You elect officers? The Fascists will have military academies specifically to train them. You want a free press without censorship? Goebbels is gonna spread defeatism in all your papers directly to your people. You don't have a secret police? You'll have spies and saboteurs running free.
People need to understand that just because they're "morally righteous" or whatever doesn't mean you're bound by some iron laws of history to be victorious. You have to consider the real possibility that you can lose, and lose badly, that evil
can prevail and that it prevailing has more to do with material circumstances than metaphysical virtue.
>>2554443I can get down with that and it can be something any inspiring sewer socialist should get behind and start building now. There’s towns that have created their own ISPs so I don’t see why they can’t create a local internet. Prolly greatly reduce anti-social behavior and alienation if you can only post in your local area. Especially with this wave of e-waste Microsoft is creating. Scoop up a shit ton of hardware, convert it to Linux. Get the local petty-bourgeois on board by giving them some ad space and reduced internet prices. They’ll be incentivized to promote the local net. Hopefully creates positive feedback loops in the community.
>>2554422>Absolutely key industries like healthcare, military, housing, and food should be under a centralized economic authority. But I think media and like a bicycles or other consumer goods are fine to be run by semi-independent co-ops. Shit like social media and Amazon prolly shouldn’t exist in the first place.The Chinese already do this. They call it "Grasp The Large And Let Go Of The Small"
see 16:02 of vid related
>>2554419>out.webmbased ffmpeg command line user detected?
>>2554473This is true, but they're more so doing it because they need to employ people and develop the productive forces. Our socialist american society would be developed and wealthy enough to instead minimize the labor necessary to meet bicycle demand. Like if there are 50k workers across the socialist USA working 4 hour days making bikes that's 48 million hours of labor time. I want it down to like 20 guys max at the one bicycle factory in Omaha, that's it. Everyone can spend that extra time fishing or drinking beer instead
>>2554473Yeah from my understanding the Chinese seem to let porkies go nuts and then once a market has monopolized they scoop it up as a state asset and kill off or jail all the pork’s left standing. I actually gamed out a similar system I call the commons where there’s a centralized parent company composed of syndicated co-ops of the parent company. Co-ops compete to monopolize their market, once monopolized they get admitted to the parent company and become a resources for current and future co-ops.
>>2554473China has pretty much perfected the transition from Capitalism to Socialism and anyone in this thread that is serious about Socialism should be following their lead instead of trying to build some unique Socialism With American Characteristics because that shit's not gonna work.
>>2554494we're actually less developed than they are now, except when it comes to the military industrial complex. in nearly every important metric we have deindustrialized, because it was needed to preserve world reserve currency status.
>>2554324How is this diddy bludden still president? As in not dead yet. He's so old he's gonna just keel over and die one day for no reason or break his ankles trying to step out of a car or some shit. By age 70 everyone is already useless or dead and this blud is pushing the expiration date by like ten years now.
>>2554502to follow china's lead we need to begin by having a massive civil war and revolution. We are 75 years behind them in that regard.
>>2554507Well it's never too late to start
>>2554508agreed. just pointing out it's not a matter of simply copypasting their economic policies while the bourgeoisie are still in power.
>>2554418>>2554419the value of the S&P 500, an index of the 500 most valuable stocks in the the US. the graph is illustrating that jobs growth and economic growth have decoupled.
this may be misleading: the AI bubble means that only 4 or five companies are experiencing growth while the US is in a sharp recession.
even if true, AI automation may not be sustainable: it could cause companies to fail through luddite backlash, brain drain, or consequences from the stupid shit LLMs say and hallucinate.
>>2554504I think people have a misunderstanding of the industrialization situation in america. Yes all the consumer low cost low profit stuff is gone but there still remains a modest industrial sector for high end highly skilled profitable export stuff. Not to mention in socialism, we wouldn't need to be sufficiently industrialized to be priced competitively at the global level, just enough to meet the needs of our people
>>2554473Something I considered is maybe an evolution of the "Franchise" system of Capitalism or maybe something closer to a Guild. No one gives a fuck if you nationalize amazon, but they may get upset if you nationalize the little Mexican restaurant run by the same family for the past 50 years. One is a faceless corporate behemoth, the other is run by some friendly local family or what have you.
So maybe fold them into a guild with some level of government oversight but more "hands off" approaches, let them get some funding from the "guild" and have some amount of internal disputes related to competition handled within the guild.
>>2554516Lots of folks don't talk about the "abolition of the profit motive" aspect of Socialism even though it would have huge knock-on effects for how and why we produce things.
I guess the best example is lightbulbs. There have historically been "lightbulb cartels" because they figured out that if you have a longer lasting bulb then eventually profits would crater as people have to stop replacing bulbs as much. Capitalism's solution was just a cartel to artificially limit how long lightbulbs could last, under Socialism a "forever lightbulb" isn't something
bad.
That's the ironic aspect of it. The Profit motive diverges from efficiency past a point, and purposely throttles innovation in the name of greater profits. It used to be you'd have reliable tractors that any farmer could fix themselves, well now they're adding a bunch of always online features because tractor producers want to get more profits from being the only ways capable of fixing tractors.
>>2554507>>2554510>>2554516aren't your airports shutting down because air traffic control aren't being paid? your economy is absolutely firetrucked. I think you guys are done.
>>2554388you will read this shit
>>2554523Yeah and I think people are definitely noticing a difference between the quality of products now and the quality of products 60+ years ago that would never break and were built to last. Very good propaganda
>>2554525eugenics and phrenology are perennial forms of usian mysticism. they will never go away.
>>2554524Not going anywhere, this countries economy has what no one else has, a tech sector
>>2554529
From what ive heard shes a lot more radical then what how she appears, even if shes a democrat
>>2554529
She cute
>>2554516There's a surprising amount of low cost low profit stuff still hanging around like the garment sweatshops in LA and some food processors.
But what characterizes these firms?
Much lower unionization than the old days. Lots of these places are set up in the sunbelt where the regimes of those states offered a cowed workforce today, a cowed workforce tomorrow, a cowed workforce forever better than the old northeast and rustbelt could.
>>2554539The world uses american apps. Unless there's a like a German or an Indian social media platform I'm not aware of
>>2554547there are alternatives. simply, the US banned them all.
>>2554555TikTok isn't banned in America, but it's banned in India. Can't all be blamed on the yanks
>>2554529
Glad to see we won some elections. Hopefully this can grow to some state level power.
>>2554529
thicc but still would
>>2554343This is the most internet tough guy shit
Are you 12.
Could someone give me a hand?
Matrix is giving me this when trying to get into the leftypol room.
MatrixError: [403] You are not invited to this room
>>2554591Use the matrix link in the second pinned /meta/ thread.
>>2554584>implying you're not herI'm on to your game, semen demon
>>2554529
communist, like communist communist or secretly-endorsed-by-the-CPUSA-running-with-another-party-to-claim-deniability communist?
>>2554603Lol nah bro, I wouldn't run for office out here unless I was fluent enough in Spanish to speak directly to migrant workers and, well, I suck at learning other languages.
>>2554605It's not like we're hiding she's a member of the CPUSA, we boasted about it on our YouTube and website. Only thing is its still technically illegal to run as a member of the CPUSA so most run as independents. Especially during this admin, pouring resources into an election only to have victory snatched because "Erm, TECHNICALLY you can't run AS a Communist!!!!" would be self-defeating.
>>2554611>Only thing is its still technically illegal to run as a member of the CPUSA so most run as independents.Depends on the state, though, doesn't it? Texas has it written into the state constitution that no communists are allowed on ballots. (Doesn't seem very constitutional if you ask me.)
>>2554611>It's not like we're hiding she's a member of the CPUSA, we boasted about it on our YouTube and website.are you even actually a member?
>>2554584Please be in london
>>2554611well, communists then needs more cojones, and finally have the bargain chip that the US does have political prisoners, in international discussions, forums, and be exposed as a cynical and hypocritical state.
https://www.rawstory.com/jeffrey-epstein-2674278145GOP lawmaker says new Epstein bombshell might keep House in recess ‘through next year’
>A new bombshell report revealing new details about Jeffrey Epstein and his international influence has led one MAGA lawmaker to suggest the House may remain in recess through 2026 to avoid drawing more attention to the revelations.
>According to a report Friday from Drop Site News, Epstein had helped broker a defense agreement between the West African nation Côte d'Ivoire and Israel, a revelation uncovered from recently leaked emails of former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak.
>“This might keep the House out of session throughout next year,” wrote Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) in a social media post on X Saturday, referencing Drop Site News’ reporting.
>The House has been in recess since September 19 after members passed a funding bill that the Senate has failed to pass, largely due to disagreements on health care policy.
>While House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) has the ability to reconvene the House at any moment – even amid the ongoing government shutdown – he has refused to, with some critics arguing his hesitancy stems from wanting to avoid a vote on an Epstein-related piece of legislation.
>That legislation is a discharge petition filed by Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), which, if approved, would compel the Justice Department to release all of its files on Epstein. The petition requires 218 signatures to force a vote in the House, and thus far has received 217. An Arizona Democrat that was elected to Congress last September has pledged to sign the petition, but has not been sworn in by Johnson, who now faces a lawsuit over the delay.
>Drop Site News has also previously reported that Epstein helped broker a security cooperation agreement between Mongolia and Israel, as well as helped establish a backchannel for Israel to communicate with Russia amid the Syrian Civil War.
>Epstein died in 2019 while awaiting trial on sex-trafficking charges, and was well-known for his close ties with powerful figures, including President Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton, and a slew of entrepreneurs and celebrities, including Woody Allen and Bill Gates.
>Trump has faced increased scrutiny in recent months over his past ties with Epstein, who once said he was “Donald’s closest friend for 10 years."
>Johnson has also faced increased scrutiny for what critics describe as efforts to protect the president in connection with Epstein, even going as far as to claim that Trump was once an “FBI informant” tasked with gathering incriminating evidence on Epstein, a claim he later walked back.Keeping the house out of session for another year 'cause we have to protect the Pedo-Prez and our greatest ally.
>>2554634is that ludwig from videogames
>>2554630>>“This might keep the House out of session throughout next year,” wrote Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) in a social media post on X Saturday, referencing Drop Site News’ reporting.>While House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) has the ability to reconvene the House at any moment – even amid the ongoing government shutdown – he has refused to, with some critics arguing his hesitancy stems from wanting to avoid a vote on an Epstein-related piece of legislation.lmao. I can't believe that's going to happen. even if so, they will bury the subject, won't they?
>>2554529
>25
>haven't really achieved anything for the cause
>unelectable due to dirtbag phase
>younger person achieves more
I know I should be doing something I don't know what that something is.
>>2554630Didn't Israel collaborate with South Africa to develop their secret nuclear weapons program? IIRC some famous Israeli government whistleblower leaked everything about it to the press and then Mossad abducted him and now he's an unperson.
>>2554638
Yeah, I wish the also transfered missile technology for them to one day have nuclear missiles but south Africa ended its program before it could
>>2554628>well, communists then needs more cojones, and finally have the bargain chip that the US does have political prisoners, in international discussions, forums, and be exposed as a cynical and hypocritical state.Look man I don't mean this as an insult, but the world and the public knows the U.S. is hypocritical, I don't think us winning elections then getting the results thrown out would do too much, but I'm open to counter-arguments.
Like, political prisoners? We've got Guantanamo. Hypocrisy? We tried to get Russia exiled from the global community for Ukraine while backing Israel to the hilt, let alone our own unjustified invasion of Ukraine. Cynicism? Trump just said outright "Yeah the Saudis probably killed Khashoggi but they give us so much money!
>>2554630It’s getting real close to the point where it seems like they would rather collapse the country than reveal the contents of those files.
>>2554641the programme was begun with french help. ben gurion and degaulle were freinds from WW2 days. he authorised the sale of a nuclear reactor, and uranium was imported from france, there were jewish scientists from the US.
France didn't give them all the know how, but they knew if they gave them the pieces they could create their own programme.
but after 1967 france-israel's alliance fell apart and this was where they turned to South Africa.
>>2554651That it is of bourgeoisie and anti proletarian nature.
>>2554641Yeah pretty sure there was some story like that. Israel does fucked up shit all the time.
>>2554639I mean Mike Johnson is literally just refusing to swear in a democratically elected house rep because she said she'd vote on releasing the Epstein files. Even if they do a vote I'm certain the feds will just say they either lost it or just straight up refused. But who knows, maybe it'd encourage some whistleblower to leak everything.
>>2554648I think there's some certain conception of legitimacy, even if Trump doesn't believe in it, where if it becomes an open secret that the President and the elites raped children and were blackmailed by Israeli Intelligence, well then what then? If you don't arrest them then you might as well just officially pronounce "we're the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie". If you suck Israel off to the hilt like they currently do, then it'll pretty much cast every sniveling politician as being a kid diddler.
>>2554651alcoholic MAGA boomer uncles wanted to live out their fantasies through trump and epstein. they thought they were based for screwing underage coochi
>>2554655angry /pol/ack or general methhead?
>>2554651>>2554660>ran three times >won the popular vote once with the opposition running the worst campign ever, shooing off millions of there supporters by committing genocide>like 30'% of the country likes him at this point He's totally the voice of the america people guys
>>2554663Per news anon:
=US to demand countries share data on ‘pathogens with epidemic potential’ in return for health aid=
The US wants countries to agree to hand over information on bugs that could cause large-scale disease outbreaks in return for restoring aid to tackle health problems such as HIV and malaria, according to government documents.
The Trump administration is seeking new bilateral aid agreements with dozens of countries, after an abrupt withdrawal from existing arrangements at the start of this year. The agreements form part of a new America First Global Health Strategy announced in September.
A draft template seen by the Guardian, to be used for memorandums of understanding with partner countries, offers funding to tackle diseases such as malaria, TB, HIV and polio, as well as for activities such as surveillance, and laboratory systems and electronic health records.
It suggests that countries will be expected to gradually take over funding these areas themselves over the course of the five-year agreements.
In return, it includes conditions requiring countries to share biological specimens and genetic sequences of “pathogens with epidemic potential” with the US, within days of their identification.
A full specimen-sharing agreement – envisaged as a 25-year commitment – is still being drafted, the memorandum says, but there is no reference in the current document to countries receiving any specific benefits for sharing, such as guaranteed access to medicines developed as a result.
The draft memorandum and accompanying technical guidance also suggests that countries will be expected to recognise approval of drugs by US regulators as meeting domestic regulatory requirements, particularly where there are “large domestic markets [or] other strategic reasons”.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/nov/08/us-countries-share-data-pathogens-epidemic-potential-health-aid >>2554655Deputy, not the sheriff. Also doesn’t seem like an ambush:
>The attack was “not an ambush,” Sheriff Rosie Cordero-Stutz said Saturday. She said Jaramillo responded to the “minor” traffic incident and got into a verbal dispute with a man who was involved, which escalated into a physical altercation.“ [The suspect] fought with our deputy and during that fight he disarmed our deputy of his own service weapon and used it to shoot him multiple times,” Cordero-Stutz said. >>2554640Eh, you're not alone. I only got into socialist politics once I entered the full-time workforce and was still living in nowhereville until 26. Once I finally lived close enough to participate in orgs they've all been majority university kids already in the thick of organising, and retirees. Most of them are 19-23 and already doing more than I have. It's no excuse, I'm still doing some work in the union and outreach (stalls, fliers, online comms) sides of things, but I've got a job and other obligations that usually have to come first.
>>2554502This requires that the revolutionary cadre get winnowed down by 80-90% in the opening stages by a fascist purge, that Mao launch a Long March that sees 80-90% attrition again, and that the Japanese invade and do a rape and slaughter campaign for gurochan for 8 long years.
China is a model in many ways, but low-cost revolution it is not.
>>2554669The best part is, the subsequent Newsom administration will inherit most of Trump's policies, rebrand it Democrat, then the MSM gives Trump a free pass.
>>2554675How bad are you at your job that someone used your own gun on you?
>>2554696China isn't so much a model for revolution as it is a model for building Socialism after the revolution.
As far as the actual revolution phase…idunno beats me lol.
>>2554705I hope we gotta full cybernetic socialism instead tbh
>>2554703>guy gets in argument with cop at traffic stop>cop unholsters his gun to threaten guy to "stop resisting">guy realizes hes gonna fucking die and goes into life or death mode>tackles the cop pointing a gun at him and wrestles it out of his hand>blam blam>bystanders do nothing because fuck copsprobably what happened. they won't ever release a bodycam.
>>2554710now i see where his kids get the fucked up teeth from
>>2554716How's union density in your country/state?
>>2554718I didn't mean any offense on that question. I am wondering why would an union need to run TV ads for? Who is the target audience?
>>2554716well for one thing that AFSCME ad is from the 70s or 80s
for another thing, the audio is satirical and not the original audio.
but to answer your question, unions advertised themselves back then to encourage non unionized workers to call them up and get the union involved in their work places. so people reach out when they are ready to organize and start paying dues. Dues = revenue for the union, so naturally a union is going to advertise to potential future members.
but iirc AFSCME is a pretty shitty and compromised union from what I've heard.
>>2554720I didn't mean to be snappy either, I was just surprised because mine is around 10-15% countrywide but dismal in my industry, under 5%. So I'd love if there were more general media being seen showing why unions help everyday people. The newspapers and TV drag unions through the mud whenever they threaten strike or show militant strength.
I'm just guessing, I don't have the real answer.
>>2554669but all nations already did this. it's called the WHO
>>2554651America is not a democracy. There are no real democracies. Democracy and capitalism are incompatible.
>>2554705>as it is a model for building Socialism after the revolutionlol
time to start handing out fell for it again awards
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/mamdanis-first-loss
<Zohran Mamdani says he’s keeping New York Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch. It is his first major concession not just to the political establishment but more significantly to the national security system.
<This week, I credited Mamdani with having run a campaign that literally met voters where they were at — in bodegas, subway stations and busy sidewalks, where he asked ordinary people to share their concerns. It was a rare moment where people rather than the politician were the main character. His decision to keep Tisch, however, is a whiplash-inducing swing back to the usual protagonists of American life.
<The Harvard-educated Tisch, 44, is daughter of billionaire James Tisch, the Chairman of the Board of Loews Corporation. (Members of the Tisch family contributed over $1.2 million to the Cuomo-aligned Super PAC Fix the City.) Though she’s only been Police Commissioner for a year, Tisch has taken national security doctrine to heart.
<At a press briefing last month, Tisch called a proposed $80 million federal cut to the NYPD’s counterterrorism budget a “betrayal” and demanded that the matter be placed above politics.>>2554745>hmm maybe china isn't socialist because a hnadful of elites control everythign and they've never even come close to moving past capitalism<lol ur an ultrasmartest simp
>>2554725the us isnt part of who
>>2554748explain what you would like to happen to china and america respectively, starting now.
>>2554721>>2554722Okay that makes sense.
>>2554754>seemingly pro china>responds to another pro china post calling it dumbare you confused about the meaning of the words in the image?
>>2554756where did you find this picture of leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2554312.html ???
>>2554749well despite them being retrograde petulant tyrants the nations of the world still share epidemiological data with the USA because if their massive, constantly traveling population, is not also inoculated against emerging pathogens, it represents a huge risks to the rest of the world.
>>2554757I am pro-China and anti-US. That doesn't stop me from noticing the image is fallacious trash.
Comrades are not immune to criticism just because they agree with you. Arguments aren't automatically smart just because they're "on your side". This isn't a nationalist cult, comrade.
>>2554640If anything being a dirtbag is popular now. I mean there was that one democrat who won even though his text leaked about him joking about killing republicans. Planter is also a dirtbag and making headway. I mean look at our ruling class, the bar is on floor right now and people are looking for scumbags that will actually fight back. I’ve been thinking of running or doing something to and I’ll admit I’m all talk and no walk. I barely manage to muster going to local protest. It feels like I’m just waiting for the inevitable end of the world, like an asteroid is coming or something. But I’m still doing my call center job, drinking beers with the neighbors and taking the kid to the park. I can see the world falling to shit and it’s getting closer and closer to me. I try and talk about how shit it is and everyone that agrees with me feels just as powerless and directionless. So I get it.
>>2554765
>By contrast, in advanced capitalist democracies, bourgeois class power is deeply entrenched: economically, politically, and ideologically.
tbh I don't think the bourgeois are as entrenched as people think in the US. they may dominate the media and politics but like, no one is gonna put their life on the line to defend these people when the uprising happens. the caste system is so entrenched that the average person sees themselves as living in a completely separate world from the wealthy. there's no patronage system like existed during feudalism to ensure a peasant's loyalty to their liege lord.
these people are also vastly outnumbered and outgunned by the "proles" in the sense that the only thing keeping them safe is their personal praetorian guards, not the system itself. the system(specifically police) exists to protect capital, as in money itself, not the individuals who represent themselves as embodiments of capital. they're kinda weird economic vampires that only exist to keep capital away from the rest of us, and thats how most americans see them.
we could definitely be taking advantage of this, but the american left is too weak to do anything.
>>2554780I hope she is imprisoned in London…
>>2554778It would prolly take the internet being down for a week before people started raiding gated communities. I think even most of porkies guards would turn on them pretty quick if the financial system didn’t function anymore.
>>2554791usually with these low level spies they're just deported back home in spy exchanges. there's barely any value in keeping a spy in prison when they already sent any relevant info back to their handlers.
>>2554780Yes absolutely. I don't have state secrets to give up though? I'd probably make something up to impress her.
>>2554799Go to secret to give up under torture: the plastic tips at the end of shoelaces are called "Aglets", their true purpose is sinister.
Anons I need your help. It seems to me years ago I saw a quote from Marx which was something like "Das volk allein ist das Konkretum" (the people only is concrete). But I cannot find anything on Google, so I must be getting the quote wrong.
Can anyone help me find the real/correct quote or did it never exist and I'm hallucinating?
>>2554818
A blend of the two faces would be the hottest woman alive. Aufhebung the left and the right, the third path chick is the hottest.
Which classes exist on the eve of the second american civil war?
>>2554818
Socialism unironically = Normalizing liking nerdy looking brown girls over basic looking white girls.
>>2554761why is it wrong?
>>2554829then lolbertarians with mail order brides from the phillipines are the number one socialists
Job recruiters, landlords, light posts, now
>>2554832Stop glorifying loser, FEDini
>>2554834
ok but stop larping as a third worlder, you're also one of us
>>2554831>Philippines Its only Gusano type girls that would allow chuddies in their pussy/marriage. Any asian bae I dick down is gonna be praising Mao and Ho Chi Minh the morning after.
The October Revolution was not done by conspiracy or by guerilla methods. The October Revolution is the most important communist revolution because its leading subject was the industrial proletariat which fought an open political battle with the autocracy. Before the October Revolution, the goal was to achieve political freedom, allowing the embryonic workers' movement to mature and become the dominant social force fairly quickly if they merged with the ideas of Social Democracy.
We should look back on Lenin and his exhilarating confidence in the working class. His core belief was the Erfurt Programme, a “good news” narrative: that the proletariat, once it understood its own world-historic mission, would embrace it with passion and intelligence. Our starting point today must be the same unshakeable confidence in the American working class. We must reject the liberal condescension that sees workers as racist, sexist dupes, and the sectarian pessimism that sees them as hopelessly bought off by imperialism.
The method requires the construction of a coherent counter-hegemonic narrative. Lenin's Iskra functioned as a collective organizer dedicated to oblichenie which is systematic political exposure. It unified the experience of the disconnected working classes into a coherent whole and narrativized the good news. I recommend people also look in the Peasant War by Engels for this observation that up until that point, the peasants in Germany scarcely rebelled against the existing order due to them being disconnected from the larger world, and stuck with a 'local' mentality. The objective is to shift public consciousness toward an understanding that this system is structurally incapable of resolving its own contradictions.
Contrary to what both Soviet/socialist and American/bourgeois historians claim was the most important distinction between Leninism and what we can call German Social-Democracy (the SPD) - the Second Internationale, official Marxism - is that Leninism claimed that the revolution must be led by a professional and highly organized vanguard, that is, that Leninism is a deviation of Marxism along Narodnik and Blanquist organizational principles - that Leninism meant conspiracy, and not open democratic battle by way of parliamentary interpellation and mass agitation/propaganda via a large and highly complex system of newspaper and leaflet distribution the German SPD perfected.
Looking at the writings before WITBD, Lenin's constant reference point was the Erfurt Programme, the gold standard of Marxist strategy at the turn of the century. What Lenin wanted was the merger of the existing embryonic worker movement with Social Democracy so that, it helps the worker movement reach maturity quickly and with as little birth pangs as possible. The SPD had a highly centralized apparatus that published quickly and efficiently agitation pamphlets or newspapers or books about scandals from bourgeois political life, from injustices from the worker life. The German worker movement and German Social Democracy were merged into a coherent whole, despite the obvious contradictions between them. Lenin wanted to emulate this in Russia, but what lacked was political freedom. The autocracy might by its own weight fall tomorrow and if we, the social-democrats don't get our act together right the fuck now we can make this inevitable transition to socialism so much worse for the worker class.
To do this, the good news of the inevitability of the fall of the autocracy must be spread everywhere, and the revolutionary position of the worker class must be explained everywhere at all times, worker propaganda and agitation must be at all times, so the worker movement grows. And at the same time the injustices committed to every single class need be exposed, and in exposing them show that the only way to abolish them, is with accepting the socialist revolution with the worker class at its helm, now imbued with Social Democratic ideas.
Lenin’s wager was on the intelligence of the masses. He believed the worker, once given the full map of oppression, would act more rationally and courageously than any intellectual could imagine. That should also be our grand narrative.
>>2554834
>"Ultra Imperialist!" he wrote in English using a computer, electricity and internet.
I'm starting to think Pol Pot was right…
>>2554835
His tactics will give a smaller force outsized power temporarily and can ultimately work if combined with a larger force outside of the cities that is disrupting the capitalist state. But unless there is larger outside force to give support such small groups end up being completely destroyed.
>>2554858
bro you live in williamsburg brooklyn
>>2554864
>I recognize that America MUST be destroyed and have dedicated my entire life to it's destruction.
How exactly is being an insufferable ass on /leftypol/ contributing to America's destruction?
>>2554867Mental warfare on you obviously
>>2554858
Not everyone in Gaza has phones or the education to also write in English.They also don't have 24/7 internet access and electricity like you obviously do.
>>2554864
>We are NOT the same.
So now you think your status as a prole is about what you think and not the material condition of living in the third world? Funny how third worldists suddenly believe in liberal idealism when it comes to themselves…
"As President Nixon once said, you can destroy us seven times over, and we can destroy you seven times over. I told him in response that after this happens, the whites will be gone, only the blacks and the yellows will remain."
- Leonid Brezhnev, 1974
"As Fuhrer Hitler once said, you can destroy us seven times over, and we can destroy you seven times over. I told him in response that after this happens, the Aryans will be gone, only the blacks and the yellows will remain."
- Joseph Stalin, 1939
>>2554882That's all, folks
>>2554949the mods fell asleep so the incels are loose
>>255496210 years earlier: "Learn to code!"
2 years ago: "Learn to vibe code with AI!"
Now: "just doordash i guess"
>>2554971>"just doordash i guess"It’s just “go fuck yourself” for many already now.
>>2554843It is a bit insensitive to use on a muslim, but to these "communists"
not leftists, they have already fatten the pig with constant hyping and cheer-leading Zohran as a major threat to capitalism, now it is time to slaughter it by viciously criticizing and tearing down Zohran as a failed saviour.
>>2555055zohran himself doesn't matter. he's simply an indication of a wider trend
>>2555071Zohran himself had something that say Fateh or even Wilson did and is probably why none of the mainstream media and "we're against Mamdani from the left" types didn't hype up or fixate upon the other two the way they did for Zohran.
>>2554821It's from the 1843 Kreuznach Notebooks
>>2555084Platner also has the sauce
>>2555055Pretty much. We gotta just about everything we needed from Zohran anyways. The republicans were utterly humiliated and had their “silent majority” narrative shattered. They won’t be making much of inroads in terms of the youth and cities, and a path where they are exorcised in full has become much more clear.
The Democrats took some blows in a sufficient enough manner, but they will require more attention to ensure that they don’t leave the hole they dug for themselves. The succdem victory may have furthered damaged their reputation and credibility, but it could also easily be the thing that brings the party back to the forefront. Therefore, as you said, we much teardown the false hope and ensure the death of the democratic party.
>>2555071He could matter in the future, even if not right now, even if it’s not obvious. It’s best for us to leave nothing to the wind and ensure a safer path.
We're rapidly moving towards a future where the succs take over the democratic party and fight the groypers who take over the republican party
>>2555102so basically europe
>>2555093Platner is the platonic ideal of a CIA democrat
>>2555104why is the dnc throwing in resources challenging him with Janet Mills then? She's 77 with medical issues
>>2555102>We're rapidly moving towards a future where the succs take over the democratic partyWhere we should be moving towards a future where the party is destroyed outright instead.
>and fight the groypers who take over the republican partyThe republicans are burying themselves in their hole as we speak.
>>2555103Not ideal
Le interimperialist conflict
>>2555114>The republicans are burying themselves in their hole as we speak. Pretty sure republicucks are in the middle of attempting to solidify one party rule forever through concentrating power in the executive branch but OK
>>2555118It's not true because the democrats are less evil and have less nazis which means they are anti imperialist
>>2555124these foreign workers don't pay income tax, they keep every Dirham they make. Meanwhile 1/5 of my paycheck is taken out every week in america
(Rule 11 - low-quality bait) ‘You Are All Terrorists’: Four Months in a Salvadoran PrisonThey said they were shackled, beaten, shot with rubber bullets and tear gassed until they passed out.
They said they were punished in a dark room called the island, where they were trampled, kicked and forced to kneel for hours.
One man said officers thrust his head into a tank of water to simulate drowning. Another said he was forced to perform oral sex on guards wearing hoods.
“‘You are all terrorists,’” Edwin Meléndez, 30, recalled being told by officers who added: “‘Terrorists must be treated like this.’”
In March and April, the Trump administration made the extraordinary decision to send 252 Venezuelan men to a notorious prison in El Salvador known as the Terrorism Confinement Center, saying they had infiltrated the United States in a form of “irregular warfare.”
In interviews, however, the men sent to the prison described frequent, intense physical and psychological abuse. Beyond the beatings, tear gas and trips to the isolation room, the men said they were mocked or ignored by medical personnel, forced to spend 24 hours a day under harsh lights and made to drink from wells of fetid water.
Luis Chacón, 26, from the Venezuelan state of Táchira, was one of several men who said the constant abuse at the prison led him to contemplate suicide. A father of three, he said he had been working as a driver for Uber Eats in Milwaukee before being detained and expelled to the prison. His low point there came in June, he said, on the day of his oldest child’s seventh birthday.
“We had heard that if there was a person who died among us that they would let us all go,” he said. He thought maybe he should be that person: He climbed on a bunk bed, he said, and tried to hang himself with a sheet.
The Trump administration never released a complete list of the 252 Venezuelan men imprisoned in El Salvador or the crimes it claimed they had committed.
Using a leaked list of the names, The Times found that a relatively small share of the men — about 13 percent — seemed to have a serious criminal accusation or conviction in some part of the world. (The Times searched multiple public records databases, but the American government may have more information that it has not released.)
Of the 40 men interviewed for this article, The Times found criminal accusations, beyond immigration and traffic offenses, against three of them.
Victor Ortega, 25, who said he was shot in the head with a rubber bullet while in the Salvadoran prison, has “pending charges for discharge of a firearm and theft,” according to the Trump administration.
A second man we interviewed, Neiyerver Leon, 27, had a misdemeanor charge for possession of drug paraphernalia and was fined.
In addition, public records in the United States indicate that Mr. Chacón, the man who said he had contemplated suicide in prison, had been arrested in 2024 on a domestic violence charge, and was accused this year of retail theft at a Walmart. (The domestic violence case was dismissed, according to public records, and Mr. Chacón was sent to El Salvador before the theft case could play out.)
>‘Welcome to Hell’At detention facilities in the United States, U.S. officials had told them they were being deported back to Venezuela, the detainees recalled. On a stopover in Honduras, they had been given pizza. Now, a Salvadoran official was boarding the plane.
“You’re staying here,” Ysqueibel Peñaloza, 25, recalled the official saying.
Panic swept down the aisles, he said. The men tightened their seatbelts, Mr. Peñaloza said, in a feeble attempt to prevent removal. The harsh tactics of El Salvador’s president were well known. Some men began to shout, he recalled, demanding to see a U.N. representative, a lawyer or a diplomat from their country.
Then Salvadoran officials, in body armor and carrying batons, boarded the plane, several men recalled, and began to remove the group by force.
Officers bent the handcuffed men at the waist, dragging them off the plane and pushing them onto buses, they said. Cameras rolled. Hours later, Mr. Bukele posted a video of the arrival, packaged with music and drone shots like an action film. Within three days it had been viewed nearly 39 million times.
“We continue advancing in the fight against organized crime,” Mr. Bukele wrote on X, when he posted the video. “But this time, we are also helping our allies.”
Inside the prison, the men said, they were told they were members of Tren de Aragua.
“‘Welcome to hell,’” Anyelo Sarabia, 20, recalled being told upon arrival. “‘From here you’ll leave only in a body bag.’”
In fact, some of the men shipped to El Salvador had sought political asylum in the United States, claiming they would be persecuted for taking part in protests against Mr. Maduro, according to applications reviewed by The Times.
>Life on the InsideCut off from the world, the men began to adjust to their new lives. Officials divided them into cells, usually 10 people in each, they said. Meals, three times a day, consisted mostly of rice, beans, spaghetti and tortillas.
They said they occasionally received special treatment, like better food and brief moments outdoors, but only when they had rare, official visitors, including Kristi Noem, head of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. The prisoners said they were never allowed visits from lawyers or relatives.
Desperation grew, they said. Tito Martínez, 26, began to feel sick and weak, until he could not get out of bed and other men had to feed him, several recalled. Eventually, Mr. Martínez was taken to an infirmary, where he said he was beaten in front of medical personnel.
There, he said, a woman who identified herself as a doctor told him: “‘Resign yourself. It’s time for you to die.’”
When he arrived at the prison, Aldo Colmenarez, a 41-year-old diabetic, according to a Venezuelan doctor’s report, asked officials for insulin, he said. It was five days before they gave it to him, he explained. After that, dosage and application were erratic, said several of the men, leading to episodes of hypoglycemia that left Mr. Colmenarez cold, sweaty and unconscious.
Punishment often felt random and disproportionate, the men said. Bathing was allowed only at 4 a.m. Men who splashed water on themselves to stay cool at other times were sent to the island, the former prisoners said, recounting a dark isolation room with just a pinhole of light in the ceiling, where they were beaten by several guards at a time.
Many of the men described being placed in a “crane” position, in which guards made them kneel with their hands cuffed behind their backs, then lifted them by the arms.
Tensions grew in April. After a few men asked one of the guards, an officer who used the alias Satan, to stop banging cell bars at night, the guards dragged them into a central area and released tear gas in their faces, said two men who were in a nearby cell, Andy Perozo, 30, and Maikel Moreno, 20.
Another of the inmates, Andrys Cedeño, 23, began to convulse.
“Boss,” he said he cried, “I’m asthmatic.”
What the guard did, he said, “was laugh.”
Mr. Cedeño then grew limp and unresponsive. The men who could see the attack said they thought that he had died.
Scared and angry, the prisoners threw soap bars and cups of water, they recalled. The next day, they resolved to stop eating, demanding better treatment.
Then they began to slice their bodies with the rough edges of metal bed ladders and plastic pipes, said several men, using blood to write messages on sheets they hung from the plumbing.
“We’re not criminals, we’re migrants,” said one message, according to several of the men, including Edicson Quintero, 28, who said he cut his abdomen to draw blood for a protest sign.
The hunger strike lasted four days, the men said. Afterward, Andry Hernández, the makeup artist, said officers sent him to the isolation room. There, guards in hoods forced him to crouch and perform oral sex, he said.
“They passed the baton over my parts,” he recalled, “they put the baton through my legs and raised it, they groped me, they touched me, and I just screamed.”
In May, a guard search of one of the cells turned violent, many of the prisoners recalled, and some of the men, enraged and desperate, began dislodging metal parts from their beds and using them to break the locks on cell doors.
Briefly, gates swung open.
Officers responded with guns and what the prisoners described as rubber bullets.
“When the first guy was hit we ran back into the cell,” recalled Edwuar Hernández, 23. “They began to shoot at us point blank, from the bars toward the inside.”
After this attempt at a rebellion, officials forced many of the men to the island, including Mr. Chacón.
There, he said, “they put our heads inside a tank as if to drown us, and they took our heads out again and hit us on the ribs, on the legs, with whatever they could find.”
>A Secret DealFar from the prison, diplomats from the United States and Venezuela were hashing out a deal that would determine the prisoners’ fates.
Mr. Maduro had spent the last year imprisoning U.S. citizens and permanent residents in an effort to gain leverage over Washington. In July, he agreed to release 10 of them, along with 80 Venezuelan political prisoners, in exchange for the 252 men imprisoned in El Salvador.
In the weeks before the release, the men said, some of the abuse subsided. Eventually, guards arrived with Head & Shoulders shampoo, Speed Stick deodorant and Colgate toothpaste, the men recalled, and they were shaved and their hair was cut.
Then the prison director appeared.
“You have 20 minutes to bathe,” he told them, according to Jerce Reyes, 36.
“We all started screaming and crying,” he said, “because we knew we were leaving.”
In the interviews, the freed prisoners reported ongoing physical and mental health problems, which they attributed to the beatings and other abuse: blurred vision; recurring migraines; trouble breathing; shoulder, back and knee pain some linked to the “crane” position; nightmares; insomnia. Some have seen doctors, but many said they could not afford to.
https://archive.is/ZWBq4 >>2555118American civil war 2 will start with a disagreement on whether Puerto Rico will join the union as a succ state or groyper state
>>2555135wow capitalism runs on slaves (wage laborers actually) who would have Ever guessed lol
>>2555127>in americaYou didn’t need to say which country
Skyrocketing ACA premiums force enrollees to make tough decisionshttps://www.cnn.com/2025/11/09/politics/aca-enrollment-premiums-increase-impact>Late last month, Elizabeth Wick got the email she had been dreading. Her insurer, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Texas, told her that the monthly premiums for her Affordable Care Act policy would soar to $1,380 next year, up from $862.
>…Wick is among the millions of Americans with Affordable Care Act policies who must contend with the looming lapse of the enhanced subsidies. The increased cost of coverage can lead to agonizing trade-offs for many enrollees, including cutting back on other necessities, trying to avoid getting care or forgoing health insurance entirely.
>…The enhanced subsidies have enabled many lower-income Americans to obtain coverage with no or very low monthly premiums and broadened eligibility for assistance to many middle-class consumers.
>…The expiring beefed-up subsidies, along with rising health care costs, contributed to insurers hiking rates by 26%, on average, for next year, according to federal data. But what enrollees will actually pay will be far higher because they won’t have the additional aid. Premium payments will more than double, on average, according to KFF, a nonpartisan health policy research group.
>…At 63, [Sunni Montgomery] is facing a relentless battle with lung cancer. Since 2022, she’s undergone multiple rounds of chemotherapy and radiation, relying on her ACA marketplace plan to cover the mounting costs. Thanks to enhanced subsidies, her premium this year was $541 a month — just manageable with Social Security Disability and a part-time job. But next year, without those subsidies, she says her premium is set to soar to $1,758 a month — far outside her budget.
>…Chris, 62, is a retired federal worker, and Donna, 60, runs a small medical billing business. They relied on their ACA plan — reduced to $401 a month by the enhanced subsidies — to manage Donna’s asthma and Chris’ atrial fibrillation. But next year, their premium is set to skyrocket to $1,975 a month — nearly half their income.
>They pored over options on the ACA marketplace but say even the cheapest plans hovered near $1,000 a month. Yet those policies “have huge deductibles, big copays, and they don’t cover a lot, so effectively it’s like not having insurance anyways,” Chris said.
>…Soaring premiums have also left Alison and her husband, Chris, who live in Carson City, Nevada, debating over what to do about their Obamacare coverage. This year, they are paying only $183 a month after nearly $1,350 in subsidies. But next year, their policy will cost $936 after some subsidies.
>…Kris McKegney, 23, now pays $300 a month after subsidies for a higher-end plan with only a $3,000 annual deductible. Keeping the same plan would cost him $1,250 a month because he doesn’t expect to qualify for any assistance.Absolute insanity.
>>2555127Islamist retard die lmao
>>2554708American cops are so bad at facing actual altercations, if you gonna be a unfit fuck that misses your shots at point blank and gets your gun stolen by a guy more overweight and sedentary then you , what is even the point of becoming one lol.
>>2555169>>2555187working in the gulf is significantly better than a large chunk of the world. in india your caste literally decides your employment
>>2555198no, only in traditionalist rural areas. india formal abolished caste a long time ago in 1947 it's just that ppl have incentive to not change
>>2555201Absolutely not true. I've been to India, I noticed how all the street cleaners and sanitation workers even in the rich touristy cities were all the darkest color. It still exists in India in practice and in thought, just like Jim Crow in the USA. Working in the gulf through foreign labor is how Kerala got so rich, and not getting income taxed is a huge incentive lol
>>2555205You are no different from loomer freaking out about arabs on twitter
>>2555186I’m pretty sure if they actually had to deal with a serious enough, at least semi-competent, organized threat to them, they’d choose to die from a heart attack instead of doing anything from the mere mention of such a group.
>>2554734they are actually the same thing, and that's a bad thing
>>2555102>We're rapidly moving towards a future where the succs take over the democratic partywhat are you going to do when the succdems cuck out to Hakeem Jeffries and let Gavin Newsom run in the general election instead of AOC or whatever
>>2555226AOC would lose, her voice is too annoying tbqh.
>>2555226>>2555243Succdems would prefer someone like Beshear than AOC for presidency. She is more suited for Schmuer's senate seat and leadership.
>>2555243true true. she never struck me as someone who who is able to communicate well with working people. something about her, you know?
>>2555094I think the "Dirty Break" wing of DSA is going to be having its way for the next decade, as it builds power and fester in the DNC like a parasite before becoming a third party, altogether. By then all the regional left wing parties will merge with DSA into one united front. Constantly attacking Zohran isn't going to advance the Dirty Break or the Revolutionary path anyway.
>>2555104If Platner is a glowie then why Mills and the oppo research? Osborn is closer to being a CIA democrat than Platner tbh.
Both probably aren't glowies but trying to make a point.You hate Platner because he is a glowie, I hate Platner because he is the median american voter, we are not the same.
>>2555260I wonder what platners deal is i doubt he's a committed leftist with his record, so what's his angle
this rolling stone article of a jew finding out about nick fuentes is so funny
https://archive.is/7rWls>>2555127You're saying as if they don't live in a crammed apartment with 5 or more people, with paycheck definitely lower than yours.
>>2555275guy thought he was killing brown people to secure treats for his countrymen
turns out he was killing brown people to secure treats for billionaires and israel
guy doesn't like that his countrymen still have no treats
it's pretty easy to grasp if you just take him at his word.
>>2555286Do you know what remittances are
>>2555289easy to say now.
>>2555294If being denied his tariffs is the catalyst for martial law then all I can say is lol, lmao
>>2555294>RefundEffectively they're giving big businesses free cash because the cost of the tariff was already passed down and paid for downstream.
>>2555260>I think the "Dirty Break" wing of DSA is going to be having its way for the next decade, as it builds power and fester in the DNC like a parasite before becoming a third party, altogether. By then all the regional left wing parties will merge with DSA into one united front. I think you’re seeing things in an too incrementalist manner in a world that is sick of incrementalism. I think this wing of the DSA you speak of will have some influence over the dnc (whether they fail or succeed), but in a more accelerated and “wacky” manner.
>Constantly attacking Zohran isn't going to advance the Dirty Break I don’t care to advance the “Dirty Break”. I honestly think the “Dirty Break” already happened, and it became below mentioned:
>or the Revolutionary path anyway.The revolutionary path involves a lot of educating. The sooner people see that people like Zohran will not save them, the sooner the revolutionary path will move forward. So I very much disagree with your statement. I think having a critical voice in the discussion speaking of the flaws of Zohran is very important in spreading class instincts.
>>2554630Since the hacked ehbarak emails reveal a big part of the criminal empire, and Andrew is no longer Prince, then pootuses involvement must be the main reason for the Epstein Shutdown.
>>2555326>and Andrew is no longer PrinceI forgot about that. There must be something explosive. We are ruled by the Hitlerite Pedo-bourgeoisie
“Break with tradition, or so it seems. Vilified by the entire Rockefeller and liberal media establishment, but strong evidence he himself is "conservative CIA". Brought to power by "conservative CIA" CNP financiers/members as the Mercers, Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway. Trump himself has many long-standing, curious security state and establishment ties, among them: in December 2000 Trump was part of a 94-guest dinner organized by Bilderberg steering committee-, Pilgrims Society-, and 1001 Club-member Conrad Black, where Trump was seen chatting with Henry Kissinger at a table. Happy Rockefeller, the widow of Nelson Rockefeller; Lynn Forester de Rothschild, Richard Perle, Vernon Jordan and later exposed serial pedophiles Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell all were part of this dinner.”
>>2555213>>2555186IMO the biggest thing keeping people from just destroying the cops is the fact that there's simply shitloads of them, including hordes of many, many branches of federal policing, and eventually they'll definitely destroy you. And as it is they have enough toys, enough techniques, and enough fear on their side that they can prevent any one nucleation point from getting too out of control.
What i think people miss about the effectiveness of american policing is that it isn't focused on beating you at any one point, but rather smothering people under layers and layers and layers of different countermeasures to create a sense of inevitability of failure that has only accelerated with the dawn of the electronics age. It's a panopticon of cameras, microphones, laboratories, and databases that are geared towards finding you and crushing you. They don't hesitate to bring it out full force when people who actually do shit the state doesn't like try anything. Meanwhile they don't really give a fuck if you can blast one cop.
>>2555358Typically the dems sell the farm to buy crumbs so I'm sure it's gonna be great
>>2555314yep then they'll do stock buybacks with it only to lose it all when the stock market finally tanks, and then they'll line up for a bailout.
>>2555314>the cost of tax on capital was already passed down and paid for downstream.spoken like reaganite
>>2555358>>2555363Maybe I'm being overly cynical or conspiratorial but I think this is being done purely to spite the left wing of their party. As impotent as mild social democracy is, Chuck Schumer and pals see that as an exponentially greater threat to their positions than Trumpist fascism, and Mamdani's win has the old guard panicking. So they're going to completely sabotage themselves out of spite
>>2555371>Maybe I'm being overly cynical or conspiratorialNah, you’re on point. Not only is that what’s probably going, it’s also probably worse than that. Wouldn’t be surprised at all to see them kissing the ring. Cuomo did, and it isn’t the first time we’ve seen “toxic bipartisanship” either.
>>2555029this is just payday loans as an app. people used to walk into buildings and do this same thing. if you can help it, never ever take a loan. I know most people need one eventually so that's bad advice, but just always avoid paying interest if you can wait a couple of extra days. Because interest payments are so insidious that they will suck the rest of the life blood out of you.
>>2555366it would be really funny if the tariff money was redistributed instead of used to reindustrialize. he's got to buy political satisfaction in the short term rather than fulfill the promise of bringing jobs back long term. yet another nail in the coffin of US hegemony, even if it results in a temporary increase in his approval ratings and a brief respite from all the austerity.
>>2554760it doesn't matter if you share epidemic data with burgers if they don't actually develop vaccines as fast as China, and they don't bother to get vaccinated anymore because of anti-medicinal hysteria that has taken over their stupid population. Burgers will just take the data you give them, do unit 731 shit with it, and then not actually inoculate their population.
>>2555371>>2555363one of the biggest phrases I've ever hear, from wall street, that i think the US politician exercise with devotion, is: apply a lot of shear, never break it. they know the state is at risk. however, what trump is proposing, to neoliberalize more the economy, will hurt kill rural hospitals, and that's no good for businesses either.
>>2555388this guy also loves idpol too, military veteran identity politics is huge in the usa.
>>2554938this criticism would only be relevant if i were posting it outside of this place or directing it at anyone besides fedlix himself
>>2555390Burn it all down at this point. I have a headache and I'm tired of people being mean to each other all the time
>>2555391>vet identity is idpolunderrated trvth nvke not stated often enough. cop identity is idpol too.
natpigs (cops) and worldpigs (troops) love to bond on the basis of seeing themselves as "wolves" and everyone else as "sheep"
>>2555371>sabotage out of spitewell this is just imperial boomerang. the united states also screeched that reformers outside the imperial core like Jacobo Arbenz, Mohammed Mossadegh, and Salvador Allende were hardened bolsheviks when they were basically like Mamdani; just reformers. If the US formula is to treat all attempts to reform capitalism as if it were the second coming of Lenin, they will eventually find themselves applying the same methods of imperialist sabotage to their own country. Coups, sanctions, embargoes, invasions, loan sharking, kidnapping, torture, murder, blackmail. The US has been running its global capitalist mafia this way since the end of WW2. So when someone like Mamdani gets elected, they have to apply these same methods at home, even if Mamdani is no more a threat to the USA than reformists like Mossadegh and Arbenz were. But then again this isn't without precedent even at home. The FBI killed Fred Hampton, after all.
>>2555294Is comrade Trump really going to send out another stimulus? He's the most socialist president ever.
>>2555422no
see
>>2555299he cucked out before the headline even had time to spread
>>2555366They said the same thing about DOGE dividends and look at where that went.
>>2555366If donald trump gives me 2000 dollars I'm going to gamble half of it and use the other half to change my life
>>2555127>race to the bottom >apologiakys
<they keep every dirham they makeno they don't, they spend it all on staying alive. any wage at or below the cost of subsistence is essentially wage-slavery. US prisoners in forced labor also make money technically, but the prison charges them room and board, so they leave prison in debt even if they work while in prison.
>>2554939Good, I never liked those things anyway.
>>2555437if you're going to gamble half of it away, you may as well put it into a Certificate of Deposit (CD) at your bank (although CDs usually require a minimum of ~5K, depending on the bank, but a credit union might let you do a CD with less money). The point is a CD is insured by the FDIC so if you have any money which you could afford to waste on something you don't need to survive, like gambling, then you might as well gamble smart with it. with a CD, you promise not to spend the deposited money until the CD matures, usually a period of 3-4months with a certain interest rate, usually 3-4% APY these days. i.e. the bank pays you interest way above what you would get from a savings account, and in exchange you do not withdraw the money. That's way safer than gambling, but you have to wait.
you'll feel bourgeois if you do this though, since you would effectively be using your savings as capital to receive interest. But if you have savings to spend on gambling you might as well do the lowest risk gamble possible, which is a CD. That's way less risky than gambling, crypto, and stocks and even a little less risky than bonds.
Something I've seen people pointing out recently is that shit like the Van Jones election after his "Kill Republican Children" texts leaked is that the notion of "norms" and "respectability" politics are now wholly dead.
Personally I see this as a good thing because I think "respectability" has always been a superstructural plank of neoliberalism. Like Bill Clinton had advisors suggest he do this weird "finger curl" thing during debates or speeches so he wouldn't come across as too accusatory or radical or antagonistic.
With "respectability" dying out as a political brand then the question becomes a matter of how much you're fighting the opposition, which I think maybe more Socialist aligned politicians would have a better time doing. Like the "respectable" Democrats just want to run on the right and boast "Well we deported more migrants than Trump!" But that doesn't reach people as much as "Republicans are sons of bitches and should go to the camps."
>>2555342>Meanwhile they don't really give a fuck if you can blast one cop.They do and they'll throw a small army at a person for blasting a cop. The guy who shot that cop in Florida killed himself after doing it so it's a nothingburger really.
>>2555391military vet idpol
also vets are just racist as fuck, not in like the dirtbag left edgy joke sense but actual racism
also vets rape like they're the villains in goblin slayer. you should assume any vet you meet was a serial rapist on duty and is a serial rapist at home.
what's new in the free world
>>2555443>Van Jones election after his "Kill Republican Children" textshis what
>>2555455Oh not Van Jones, sorry it was Jay Jones, whoops.
Basically a Democrat candidate for AG in Virginia had a bunch of texts leaked by Republicans where he openly said again and again that he wished death on his opponent and that, basically, if their own children were victims of gun violence it'd be a good thing because "Republicans need to feel pain personally to support good policy."
>>2555455It's not nearly as dramatic as it sounds, the context was some Republican congressperson or whatever was doing their usual "some kids might have to die but that's a sacrifice we need to make for guns" thing that usually happens after a school shooting and Jay Jones was just matter of fact like "if this person could feel the pain of having their kids die they wouldn't feel this way". Of course Republicans being extremely hyperbolic crybullies tried to turn it into a national scandal.
>>2555443Speaking as a Virginian the whole smear campaign against Jay Jones for his texts felt hollow from the start. Like this was literally the same week the Young Republican group chat was revealed to be infested with enough Hitler Particles to resurrect the Third Reich and Mike Johnson just brushed it off as "kids being kids" despite the fact that they were in their 30's. People see the Republican party as the openly hypocritical sanctimonious liars they are so really most people didn't give a shit because of the blatant bad faith double standard being applied
>>2555457Shit, posted the same image twice, here's the one where he talks about some Republican's kids getting shot.
>>2555460>Speaking as a Virginian the whole smear campaign against Jay Jones for his texts felt hollow from the start. Like this was literally the same week the Young Republican group chat was revealed to be infested with enough Hitler Particles to resurrect the Third Reich and Mike Johnson just brushed it off as "kids being kids" despite the fact that they were in their 30's. People see the Republican party as the openly hypocritical sanctimonious liars they are so really most people didn't give a shit because of the blatant bad faith double standard being appliedYeah that's the thing. Like GWB could fall back on some "Well garsh, shucks" kind of vibe to hide Conservative psychopathy behind. Mitt Romney had his whole "polite mormon" shtick. Trump's just out there saying "THE DEMOCRATS ARE BABY KILLING LOSERS!" and kind of represents the total Tea Party-ification of the Right.
So at that point "norms" and "respectability" is fucking dead. Who gives a fuck about respecting Republicans? Fuck 'em. Like after the Charlie Kirk death there were a few libs who, even if they weren't making fun of it, were saying shit like "You just know that if AOC was shot in public like that they'd be posting the pics everywhere and responding to left wingers with 'you talk like you've got a hole in your throat'."
No one gives a shit about treating Republicans "politely" anymore because Trump basically proves that's useless. They're scumbags. If they start whimpering "W-well you said you think we should DIE" the response is increasingly "Yeah, go die you fucking assholes."
People are fed up.
>>2555198Both are capitalist shitholes. Now stop sucking off the gulf monarchies. They won't let you into the Gaza hotels they will build over the bodies.
>>2555439>they spend it all on staying aliveblatantly untrue. Low skilled foreign workers in the gulf save and remit between 600-1500 AED on average. This represents a modest some in most of their home countries. Do workplace abuses happen? Of course, but it's not uniquely worse than any other capitalist nation
600-1500 AED monthly*
>>2555475Funny enough Van Jones was crying about Zohran's victory speech because he's "Too Divisive" when he said he was going after landlords.
honkoid status?
>>2555479House dems are cucking out to own the lefties
>>2555493The chief sin of Trump for some libs is literally just he's crass. Like they think Mamdani or Socialists are scary and bad because they say "Yeah I have enemies".
>San Francisco created a vacant property tax because landlords figured the math worked out better to take out low-interest loans to buy and flip empty buildings given rising prices, like a pure speculation play. (It's complicated and I don't exactly know how they were doing it but it was something like that.)The state of renting and home ownership in the U.S. is wild; I heard someone say that they were part of a meeting with some Boomer CEO and the guy kept insisting "Young people don't want to buy homes, they just want to rent." And when they pointed out things like inflation and the difference in wages now compared to them, the guy just point-blank said "Well I don't believe in inflation."
>>2555496I think everyone knows this is really just Schumer taking orders from Israel to end the shutdown because they need more gibs from Congress.
It won't play well in his reelection bid at least.
>>2555502>Israel to end the shutdown because they need more gibs from CongressWait. Are they really not able to receive gibs anymore because of this? Bro, I hope this lasts until a violent military REDACTED happens
>>2555502Bold of you to assume we're going to have free elections in the next couple of years
>>2555502The biggest reason is flights. They don't want to fuck with the holidays. Trump threatening to cut 10% of flights scared them.
>>2554882>3 suicides and one elderly guy having a heart attackCommitting suicide at Disney World is a dick move. Anyone that thinks of splatting themselves in front of families trying to have fun with their children can go fuck themselves.
>>2555508>>2555502now these are the
behin-door deals I can read into.
>>2555509no that's the perfect place to off yourself. disney is where petty bourgeois suburbanites take their spoiled children to insulate them from the consequences of treatlerism. what better wake up call from treatlerism than to see someone turn into haggis on the sidewalk? bring back public executions too. total first world traumatization. the entirety of the imperial core is like CPUSAnon, and I must hound them all to suicide.
there is not a single good namefag on this entire website
my filter-all-namefags policy is undefeated
>>2555502Holy shit, you’re right. Have they’ve been getting any money since the shutdown?
>>2555522>dedicating a week that's already passedTrump has dementia.
>>2555522can we do that silly thing where internet users buy an ad in times square and just have a giant billboard of lenin for anti-communism week
In inter-imperialist war and politics, communists should fight for revolutionary defeatism. The urban communists should fight against the Democrats and the rural communists should fight against the Republicans.
>>2555517Yeah, the response from certain segments of the population is just "Well things are bad because young people want it to be bad."
Chuck Schumer just got your weed gummies banned if you are in a state where weed is illegal
>>2555522Must have sucked ball to see a symbol of communism get what they want in NY on the week where you celebrate everything anti communist
>>2555509I think the people who commit suicide don't care about this
zohran status?
>>2555554Still in pain because his BEST FRIEND Charlie Kirk has died before they could hold hands in their prol victory
>The Trump administration has told states to “immediately undo” any actions to provide full food stamp benefits to low-income families, threatening financial penalties if they did not comply. The guidance, issued late Saturday by the Agriculture Department, added to the uncertainty surrounding the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program during the government shutdown. SNAP helps roughly one in eight Americans buy groceries.
Famous winning message.
>>2555127>"these foreign workers don't pay income tax"that's it
a UAE slave revolt is needed.
>>2555571
No one cares about Nick Fuentes. Stop posting Nazi shit here. This is the downside of allowing far rightists to openly post here, they will eventually take over the site.
>>2555566>The Trump administration has told states to “immediately undo” any actions to provide full food stamp benefits to low-income families, threatening financial penalties if they did not comply.Gotta spend money to make money.
You WILL vote for Trump
You WILL consoom the AI slop
You WILL kneel for your Israeli and Indian overlords
>>2555479What is a honkoid and why do you ritually make this low quality post every thread?
>>2555576Fuentes is currently causing a split in the GOP though. We should be discussing the effect he's having on their politics, just not do what that anon was doing and reposting his fan content uncritically.
>>2555470Wages so good in Dubai you only occasionally starve.
Also,
>My tourist trap for yuppy first-worlders filled with migrant slaves is good because everyone else is doing it.Lib logic lel
How did it take this long for the Zionist-Nazi coalition to dismantle?
>>2555601Yeah, because you're a coward.
>>2555566If the Dems weren’t cucks they’d be blasting that shit on TV 24/7
>>2555624They're busy sending all the donor money to their strategists so they can be told the solution to losing with one neoliberal is to run another.
>>2555127oh, you meant to say UAE. fuck off, they enslave working people taking away their passports. they face unpaid or delayed wages, passport confiscation, cramped/unsafe accommodation, coercive recruitment fees, exposure to extreme heat, cases of physical/psychological abuse, and difficulty obtaining exit/repatriation when employers refuse.
even if you have to pay ITIN in the US, or if you are deported, you at least can get out of the US.
>>2555630>taking away their passports. they face unpaid or delayed wages, passport confiscation, cramped/unsafe accommodation, coercive recruitment fees, exposure to extreme heat, cases of physical/psychological abuse, and difficulty obtaining exit/repatriation when employers refuse.Private companies in China do this, as we saw with their illegal factories in Brazil earlier this year. Every single country on the planet has this problem
>>2555634We are seeing waves like they never waved before. Levels of pissedoffery like never before. Truly exciting times are occurring.
>>2555627Unironically there were a lot of pissed off commentators I saw online when some article that was making the rounds came out. It was, basically —“The Dems bold new strategy: run further to the right”
I think even suburban wine moms are getting sick of the fact democrats are cucks, and no amount of ActBlue bots online can change the fact they see the Democratic Establishment increasingly as an enemy. That’s important, the establishment can handle being seen as incompetent and out of touch, but being seen as an enemy by the base is how you get Left-Wing Trump.
Honestly I’ve got some cautious optimism for 2028. Yeah people will complain about electoral politics but I think there’s increasingly a shift, people are angry enough, they’re primed, and the forces in power are showing either fecklessness or incompetence.
2028 may be a big moment. If no one progrsssive runs opposite Newsom in the primaries then we may get the establishment holding on for another few years, but if there’s an increasing SocDem push, well we may get even more open conflict with the bourgeoisie.
>>2555640nothing ever happens
>>2555647All assuming of course we still have elections that are remotely fair
>>2555651can they even rig elections beyond red states?
>>2555659but assad was worse because i was told so, that's politics baby. just turn on the tv and learn. am i right fellas
>>2555566Trump is the most cartoonishly evil president ever. He goes out of his way to be a terrible person. Doesn't even care about the optics. No subtlety whatsoever.
Makes Nixon look like a saint.
>>2555641it's almost as though Mamdani was never an anti-semite and being critical of Israel doesn't mean you hate all Jews
obviously there's a significant portion of progressive American Jews that don't like what Israel is doing.
>>2555669Laura loomer is cause he's a hardline Muslim. There it.
>>2555670The reason you dislike something matters.
>>2555657Hey I just watched that episode yesterday
>>2555651I mean we’ll see, no need not to try Yknow?
Funny enough I decided to check out NatReview recently to see if I could find anything on Mamdani’s win, and it’s really great. I found an article basically saying that the Republican Party should now gas up Mamdani as a self-avowed Communist and use him as a “foil” for Republicans—all on the premise his “terrible pie in the sky policies” will destroy New York and alienate people. So if you run as even a moderate social democrat they’ll gas you up, bring you to national prominence, and ask people to choose between the guys that want brown people kidnapped off the streets and the dudes who want the government to actually provide some kind of service.
Are there any other progressive candidates running in prominent races? Closest I can think is Graham Platner, a victory for him would be potentially interesting for its own reasons of course, but I’m more curious about the ones who have less baggage.
>>2555679he should do 9/11 on trump tower
The dems caved, and they get less than nothing.
ATC is permanently fucked
Snap is still probably also fucked
And now healthcare is even more fucked
>>2555684Pretty sure that was at least some element of anglophone conservatism since Burke though? Like I thought there was a pretty notable contrast between “continental” conservatism and Anglo Conservatism among political scientists.
>>2555683I know Schumer proposed a deal that was apparently rejected. Did something change? I think Trump is just pathologically unwilling to deal and just demands Dems cave on everything.
is the shutdown actually 'over' or are people jumping the gun
>>2555686The current deal includes for the Democrats includes only a “possible” vote for ACA. Also, Schumer voted no on it, which is new for him.
>>2555697Isn't Washington giga liberal especially after Zion Don send the troops there
>>2555699Obviously they have more than enough votes for it to go through, his no vote is purely performative
>>2555707That's their official explanation. They just agree with capitalists, that's really it.
>>2555700Stadium is in Landover Maryland
>>2555711But like they know there's no way this makes them look good to their voters at all. Even voot bloo libs like Ezra Levin are fucking furious and calling for blood. Does Chuck Schumer seriously lack any self preservation instincts or are they that confident that the status quo of the Trump dictatorship will be prepetual?
>>2555700I suspect he will have to hide in the cuck bunker again sooner or later, in a repeat of 2020, at this rate. Chicago is another place I would keep an eye at, I've seen a lot of organic rage from regular people there. Someone opened fire on federal agents during another Midway Blitz raid yesterday too.
>>2555720I know quite a lot of shitlibs many of whom were full on KHivers and even they're calling for Schumer's head on a pike
Ten trillion to medicaid would destroy capitalism in healthcare. All of medicaid and medicare is socialist, not capitalist. Ten trillion to medicaid
>>2555715The darker brown skin tones, more human shaped head while being portrayed by a black actor does make the alien seem more black coded tbh. Not a big deal imo but he's not wrong on that point.
>>2555448Obviously they come down on you hard for it, the issue is they don't care to make sure that every cop's life is secure, just that you get hell to pay if you do it. That's why it's fine if they're donut munchers, because it's all about the retribution.
>>2555714Schumer rolled his eyes back and consulted the Baileys, and they whispered “end the shutdown, Chuck”. The only solution is exorcism at this point.
>>2555745>working familieswhat is with this euphemism? why not say working people? or just families? working families, I don't get it
>>2555745wonder if it would piss schumer off if everyone started calling him cuck schumer over this.
>>2555747It means they hate most non-white people since Amerikkkans think being black or brown makes you lazy.
>>2555750Slightly unrelated, but imagine how often the illegal zionist entity does this sort of torture on Palestinians, especially kids and women, because they live for misery.
>>2555747working people don't matter because they don't REPRODOOCE. Only working "families" matter. You must not only work, you must create greater than 2 future workers, and raise them as a "family" with "family values" so the CONSOOMER market and GDP can grow and profits can be made off their labor.
>>2555750Shitstuffer Bitchens died like a decade ago. This is old news. That being said he was always a imperialist neocon national chauvinist. Michael Parenti debated him on the Iraq war.
>>2555767Apparently Newsom is calling the deal pathetic and surrender, so he’s positioning himself as “anti-establishment” while still being in the establishment.
>>2555767I am governor Gavin Newsom
My aura smiles and never frowns
Soon I will be President
>>2555787Now it's 2028
Knock knock on your front door
It's the Newsom secret police
They have come for your mean tweets
>>2555787Just briefly checking Reddit and lots of commenters are fucking furious. Not gonna lie, this is even pissing me off. Like you just made people suffer for 40 days for what? For fucking what?
Fuck it, maybe I’ll see if the DSA are running local candidates.
>>2555767they call him gruesome
>>2555793Oh oh OH and it gets better, take a looksie at the list of senators who approved it
MAGGIE HASSAN (NH)
CATHERINE CORTEZ MASTO (NV)
JEANNE SHAHEEN (NH)
JACKY ROSEN (NV)
DICK DURBIN (IL)
TIM KAINE (VA)
ANGUS KING (ME)
JOHN FETTERMAN (PA)
Notice the pattern? The seven senators they got to cave are all either retiring or not up for reelection until at least 2028. Fucking Chuck the Cuck absolutely coordinated this shit because…why? Because his Mamdani Derangement Syndrome is just that strong? Because he was being inconvenienced by flight cancellations? YOU HAD THE EASIEST WIN IMAGINABLE SERVED UP TO YOU ON A SILVER PLATTER AND YOU THREW IT AWAY
>>2555795The best metaphor for this is having a royal flush and still folding on the promise that your opponent isn’t gonna go all in next round.
Genuinely: fuck Chuck Schumer, fuck the democrats, fuck em all.
>>2555795Chuck Schumer had telegraphed that he was going to cave weeks ago, well before the NY election.
>>2555800Trump power will soon go 'way
I will be Führer one day
I will command all of you
Your kids will vibe code in school
Your kids will vibe code in school
>>2555804>>2555803Do they have a blackmail ?
>>2555809THE DEMOCRATS ARE CUCKS
That’s it! They’re pussies! They’re the real Conservative Party in America. Fucking Cuck Schumer has a bunch of middle class suburbanite imaginary friends he consults to make political decisions. He fucking named them “the Baileys” because originally he thought giving them some fucking Irish name was too exotic. He’s a fucking cuckold. He’s in the perma cuck chair. He’s a fucking pussy Israel loving faggot.
Even the reddit normies are pissedhttps://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1ot1fs0/newsom_slams_pathetic_shutdown_deal_as_surrender/holy fuck are we actually going to
accelerate to a revolution? How much more cuckery and fascist bullshit can we take?
>>25558091) They can't stand that they're being blamed for the shutdown and are hoping that by caving they can at least salvage some credit for getting things rolling again
2) The gov shutdown is impacting bottom lines, like airlines having to cut 10% of flight capacity, and they're being told fuck the poors and get shit rolling again
>>2555808As a tutor, it can be very annoying when kids talk in a language you don't understand, especially when they do it behind your back to gossip. By the way, I'm Arab, but I look very white and don't make it obvious I speak the language, so the kids don't know I can understand them when they talk shit.
>>2555814Nothing gets done as long as people continue to vote for Demokkkrackers instead of searching for an alternative to capitalism
Trump putting sanctions on New York over Madami would be so funny.
>>2555809I'm pretty sure the shutdown was 100% kayfabe to begin with
>>2555808god I hated teachers so much they love to powertrip over petty bs
>>2555818KYS
>>2555787posser. say it.
>>2555767boring speech. I can get why libs can rally behind an empty speech like that. like Klobuchar "hey donnie, you kno' wat, the science is on my side, and I'd like to see how your hair would fare in a blizzard", and people will pissing and shitting their pants with laughs over some boring comeback.
fucking uncharismatic people, cloned one after the other.
>>2555823No, I won't. Kids can be little shitheads.
>>2555822Will Mamdani provide the population some clussy?
>>2555824 (me)
was* pissing etc.
>>25558161. THE REPUBLICANS ARE GETTING MORE BLAME FOR THE SHUTDOWN
>>2555795No doubts Gavin “stamp out the homeless” Newsom is involved as well despite him tweeting out “pathetic” on Xitter. They all have to burn for this.
>>2555826Shittesting teachers will always be based.
>>2555808this is only a problem because modern public education is more daycare than education. even at the high school level.
even at the college level >>2555834Time to pivot back to the epstein files. That’ll light a flame under orangeman’s ass.
>>2555822i need more clussy videos goddamn
>>2555795Yeah they just picked the 7 least vulnerable Dems so no one else would have to take the blame. The reality is probably that more Dems wanted the shutdown to end because it was affecting their private investments and/or Israel gibs and they needed a scapegoat. Politics in this country is such a fucking joke.
>>2555846Well, you should use that energy to get libs away from Demokkkrats
>>2555848And take down the Democrats permanently
DHS AND ICE WANT TO USE BOUNTY HUNTERS
>The Trump administration is exploring a program to hire bounty hunters who would track down illegal immigrants and receive bonuses for successful captures, according to a government contracting site.>The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) issued a request for information on Oct. 31 through the federal government’s central online portal for federal contracting opportunities to gauge interest from private bounty-hunting services.>“DHS ICE has an immediate need for Skip Tracing and Process Serving Services using government furnished case data with identifiable information, commercial data verification, and physical observation services, to verify alien address information, investigate alternative alien address information, confirm the new location of aliens, and deliver materials/documents to aliens as appropriate,” the request stated.>While the information gathering process isn’t the same as the government seeking a contract for services, it could lead to an opportunity in the foreseeable future.>The idea is for ICE to provide skip-tracing companies—businesses specializing in locating individuals—with information on 10,000 immigrants at a time to locate over an initial 12-month period.>Extra assignments would be given in increments of 10,000, up to 1,000,000, over additional periods of time.>Under the plan, skip-trace vendors would be paid to find illegal immigrants and serve them with documents.>Such companies would verify address information for non-citizens provided by the government, research additional possible addresses for these individuals, confirm their current residence locations, and deliver required documents to them as needed.>Bounty hunters would provide ICE with documented home and work addresses, phone numbers, vehicle information, and social media information.https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dhs-weighs-private-bounty-hunters-locate-illegal-immigrants>>2555814What did liberals expect from their Democrats? What did they think the endgame of the shutdown was?
As far as I know, the shutdown was driven by disagreements over Obamacare coverage. My overall impression was that if the faction of Republicans backing Trump had gotten their version of the bill through, Obamacare would have been substantially weakened.
>>2555852So Usain bolt was a world class sprinter but it was still notable when he set the record, Schumer is a world class cuck and his cuckoldry record is still notable
>>2555852I was under the impression that the Republicans already got what they wanted on healthcare, supposedly the Democrats were fighting to change that.
Poltards are worse at spotting Jews than anyone same at spotting trans women. They call every woman trans and any woman with a med nose like Iranian, syrian or even Greek they call Jewish. People with berg in last name line German Christians or Norwegian people they call Jewish. These people all need a heavy dose of an antipsychotic. I say this in response to tons of them calling mamdani wife a syrian Muslim Jewish. In their mind half of the levant is Jews at least.
>>2555856>>2555852As I understand it Obamacare subsidies were gonna run out and so the Dems wanted reps to extend them. Without the subsidies then people can expect the cost of their insurance to double or even more. Allegedly the Dems wanted any agreement on the shutdown to include further funding for the ACA subsidies. Evidently they traded that in for a promise of Republicans to just hold a fucking vote on it.
>>2555822stop forcing your clown fetish into every thread homie
I wonder when horror clowns are going to fetishized
>>2555847sure climate change is the most important issue facing all of humanity, possibly even more important than class struggle, since it determines our ability to continue to exist as a species, let alone stick around long enough to abolish class, and sure China produces more renewable energy than any other country, and sure they produce over 90% of solar panels, and sure they are approaching nuclear fusion, and sure, they are 9 years ahead on their paris climate agreement, which the USA has abandoned entirely, and sure the average chinese person consumes about 1/4 what the average american consumes, and sure they don't have 800 military bases all over the planet polluting waterways… but have you considered that they haven't abolished commodity production yet?
>>2555859see, that's the thing. how can they believe that their party was going to do something meaningful. that's some evil sophistry.
now I wonder, what was the real endgame after one month and something with the government shutdown? some collusion to further the malthusianism?
are they preparing the ground for a full government shutdown for longer and pretend it was the battle for their lifes?
>>2555868
I really don't give a shit about what a midwit prank youtuber turned alt right e-whore influencer thinks tbh
>>2555867I don't think the PRC can or should be copied 100% but I do think we may be able to learn some things from them.
Certainly their work on climate change is commendable.
>>2555870Some are speculating it was just to motivate turnout for the election. Alternatively Chuck Schumer caved at the possibility of a shutdown last time and maybe stumbled into this one to give red meat to the base without thinking they’d only be angrier when the Dems cuck out.
Finally I believe we can’t discount the possibility that Cuck Schumer buys the centrist Dem propaganda genuinely and thought that Americans really want “more bipartisanship” and that the democrats would be rewarded for ending the shutdown by “putting country over politics” or some shit.
>>2555876I think you're giving him too much credit in terms of strategic thinking.
Israel needs more gibs and Chuck Schumer isn't gonna let a government shutdown get in the way of that. Mark my words before the end of November Congress will pass another Israeli "defense aid" bill, and it'll probably be tied to Trump's Venezuela war funding because the Dems are generational level cucks and would sentence a foreign country to death rather than vote against funding the New Imperial Core.
>>2555868
women the moment another woman is not constantly being a bitch
tha gubber mint shut dern
>>2555876I remember reading about the plot that bill clinton had with then speaker of the house republican newt gingrich to privatize social security. it failed because the monica lewinsky scandal derailed everything clinton had planned domestically (
never derailed foreign policy, of course, like
bombing Iraq or Yugoslavia, of course).
that's why I am so intrigued about this event. top of the line record government shutdown for the flag-bearing struggle called 'Obamacare' that biden didn't do much to shield it. huh. very intriguing.
>>2554363He's right, though, at least insofar as the American world system is based on printing dollars for real goods. Other countries, barring possibly China, can't exit, because if they do, they go bankrupt.
>>2555887why did it take them so long to realize this and will they apologize to all the people they told to have faith in demonkkkraps for decades
>>2555887Watch as they will fall for it again next election and gaslight everyone about heckin' democracy being on the line
>>2555906I don't know man I don't think this accelerationism shit is working.
Honestly American elections are just a series of terrible choices but generally somebody has to win.
>>2555914They can just bring in more nazoids to their midst, like Fetterman or Platner, who will promise people treats if they trust demokkkrats just one more time.
>>2555914>I don't know man I don't think this accelerationism shit is working.The judgement of history may be, in the end, that orange man is indeed bad.
>>2555868
why are you still watching that bicth
she's not even relevant anymore wtf
honkoid status??
>>2555861keep forcing your clown girl fetish in every thread homie
>>2555923you photoshoped him onto a poster of hte most zionist movie of all time
>>2555887Your party supports the Democrats in every scenario though. Why are you complaining about what the candidates your party endorses and campaigns for are doing? This is what your insane right wing party wants after all.
>>2555925i think anon just jerks off to whatever he finds attractive, it doesn't have to be relevant.
>>2555808she's so intimidated by them speaking a language she has to interrupt and power trip. she's clearly afraid they're talking shit about her and she clearly doesn't understand spanish but she lies and tries to say she can understand "some" spanish even though she can't give a single example of them talking shit, then she keeps interrupting them every time they try to make a point and says being an adult just means you get to flex your authority but don't have to provide reasons. I hate people like this. I'm probably older than that teacher btw.
>>2555957Never really got the whole fretting about people speaking their native language. I mean, I guess it's some kind of othering or so? Like "Oh they aren't speaking MY language so THEY must be up to something."
>>2555961>"Oh they aren't speaking MY language so THEY must be up to something."yeah that's exactly it. which always struck me as odd because, even if you force everyone to speak your language all the time (pretty much impossible) it's still very easy to communicate silently or talk shit about someone in front of them. you can use handwritten notes, phone text, sign language, or just wait until you're alone. If someone wants to plot against you they don't need a foreign tongue to do so.
>>2555969Chauvinism, ethnonationalism, ethno-supremacy, racism, etc. are all also factors.
>>2555906>Watch as they will fall for it againTrump won tho. So they didn't fall in line.
>>2556020when i was young i wanted to join the church. Can't into religion probably too autistic but i still regret it looking back, it's an easy life for some, isn't it?
>>2555750Chuds are defective, they never developed theory of mind. Either through neglect or prolong abuse by their chud parents. They aren’t able to sympathize, empathize or even just imagine others can experience pain.
>>2555958We declared you have rights so recently one of our teachers drank from colored fountains! How dare you hate us!
>>2555958send teachers into the sun
>>2555795I mean continuing to fan the flames of rage against dem leadership while the other side continues to fail it's populist promises should be a good direction, right? The only bad news is there are people like newsome with an inkling of political acumen who recognize what they need to say and normies angry enough to just accept anyone who says the right words.
>>2555911>>2555903I want this pie now
>>2556080Driving in approximately the right direction without a road and signposts to guide the way will still likely end up with you getting you lost
>>2556084True, but that's kind of what I admitted, that it's going to lead to a newsome run because he's not a complete idiot.
>>2556084Lol. As opposed to what. Driving in the opposite direction? We're in uncharted territory bub, sometimes we'll be making decisions without the full knowledge of what's really going on
>>2555826>Kids can be little shitheads.especially nowadays, where parents hold no accountability over their children's behavior at school. bad time to be a teacher in american rn
>>2555839teachers already put up with enough shit from parents who have unreasonable demands on you, low pay, and a ton of work they do outside of class.
>>2556080Yeah, Newsom is tricky. We have a lot of dirt against him already, but he’s still very good at blinding the libs with his “aura”. Scumbag is going to need a lot of whittling down unless we find a critical vulnerability in his persona.
>>2555715Reminder that posts like these happen because the person that makes them knows the mods don't enforce their own rules.
>>2556108the mods are silly anarchists they don't care
>>2556101Thats not the kids fault. Powertripping freaks like that teacher in the video deserve to get shittested.
>>2555728Isn't the predator the antagonist. do you wanna associate the word "predator" with black people??? This is the exact opposite of woke!
>>2556048This is an interesting point. I was just wondering if maga was about repeating a cycle of abuse by enabling an abusive leader. It seems like they feel trapped and never experienced the necessary catharsis for healing. I learned that bullies do this as a child while attending elementary school in three different states during the '76 school year alone, I got shuffled around a lot. But I don't fully understand how the victim ends up becoming the abuser. I'm still trying to figure that out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs_E9TP6cvE >>2556127>I don't fully understand how the victim ends up becoming the abuser. I'm still trying to figure that out."I found one day in school a boy of medium size ill-treating a smaller boy. I expostulated, but he replied: "The bigs hit me, so I hit the babies; that's fair." In these words he epitomized the history of the human race." - Bertrand Russel, Education and the Social Order (1932)
>>2556136That makes sense on an intellectual level from the outside looking in, it's the resignation that there's no other alternative that I don't understand.
>>2556139so even rand paul didn't get what he wanted hahaha but ofc he'll still simp from repubs tho
>>2556144It's easier to resign yourself to it rather than to fight and change it.
>>2556139does this effectively mean they've rolled back weed being legal in states that have legalized it?
>>2556147Maybe it is that simple. I never considered I had any other option but to never stop learning.
>>2556144read the genealogy of morals by nietzsche
>>2556149it'll never happen even if they do make it illegal, the arab shops will still sell that shit. the cops will look the other way because of the amount of taxes these guys pay. Labs (read: big pharma) don't want to lose out of their testing money and will deposit money for these guys' midterm election coffers.
>>2556149The states that legalized it will just ignore federal law.
>>2556123LMAO no you dumb "ex"-rightoid, the goal has always been to just turn native women into breeding sows to pump out more low-wage workers
>>2556159do you have any real analysis or just unhinged sexual fantasies
>>2556163they're right. US porky has attacked reproductive rights in a bid to get the fertility rate close to 3 again, which is needed to maintain population growth, therefore GDP growth, therefore profit rates, therefore the exploitation of labor power (which contrary to marketing hype, AI is not able to eliminate in the short or medium term). Related to that is the general racism, xenophobia and nationalism of the reactionary superstructure, which wants to keep America white, and speaking English, which means limiting immigration. Immigration supplied a fresh supply of exploitable workers, but it cost the ruling class political stability and society homogeneity, which they were willing to overlook as long as it divided only the workers and not the ruling calss. But now it has started dividing the ruling class, and they are plugging the flow of immigrants and switching to socially enabling the forced impregnation of women as a policy which they hope will create more ethnically homogeneous and exploitable workers. This has been their open rhetoric for at least 20 years now so I don't know why you think this is just an "unhinged sexual fantasy." I mean it is, but it is
theirs. Just listen to how they talk about restoring the traditional nuclear family and stopping the flow of brown invaders. It is so evident in all their public facing rhetoric, which btw they use to cover up their economic motivation which is the exploitation of labor and the stability of the economic system.
>>2556151Ah, so it's part of a cycle of dependency among humans. The strength in numbers shell game enables and emboldens it and illusory power becomes the high. But what will they actually inherit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lgGJRWUIvM >>2556175>they're right. not really. If the nordic states can't solve it through forking over piles of cash than nothing will. There is no turning the clock back on women's rights, not when women take up 57% of the American workforce, Porky would be creating a bigger economical problem by forcing them to be exclusively mothers. Stupid ass idea, can't believe I had to entertain it
>>2556187>57% of the American workforceIs this a typo?
>>2556167For the longest time I didn't know the coyote was voiced by Johnny Cash
>>2556189no dude. even though men and women are both about 50% of the population, men are more unemployed per capita. They're also more homeless per capita and more incarcerated per capita.
>>2556189oh I was looking at workforce participation. women represent 47% of total laborers
>>2556193is that just manual laborers? I thought women were more employed in general per capita, but usually in service sector jobs and especially office work
>>2556194idk I think averaged out between all industries it gets close to 50/50 but there are certainly lopsided sectors like the ones you named
>>2556190I'm not convinced Porky has a grand elaborate plan to solve the birthrate issue especially when it comes to roe vs wade, I think they just hate women
anyone else worried by the amount of similarities between pre-ww1 Russia and the united states today
>>2556198isn't that analysis all superstructure no base?
>>2556202the differences are much greater and more worrying
the only reason so much of the army went over to the bolsheviks was because they were drafted and sick of WW1. here there is no draft, all the soldiers are volunteers, and there is no WW1 against near-peer adversaries, just asymmetrical imperialism. so the crucial element which caused the army to join the bolsheviks is missing. also we have no giant peasantry or semi-feudal conditions.
>>2556205What do you mean? Certain individual porkies are aware of it, but the idea that american porky would come together in an grand coalition to save the nation all at the expense of their wallets would be unheard of. If the workers cant afford to raise the children the state has to and it gets prohibitively expensive pretty fast. Plus they have every other countries experience with failing to solve the same problem to draw conclusions from. I think they'll make men and womens lives as poor and miserable as possible and then run this country into the dirt until there's nothing left, then they'll fuck off to some trillionaire island somewhere to rule over the ruins from abroad.
>>2556208>and there is no WW1 against near-peer adversariesRight, but if conflict between imperialist states is inevitable, shouldn't we be preparing for that inevitability? I could see that draft coming back real quick especially when we start losing lol
>also we have no giant peasantry or semi-feudal conditions.True, but that makes our revolution way easier
>>2555808>inb4 it's staged>it's not fair to half of the class that doesn't speak Spanish.oh boy,
hesay oesday otnay owknay >>2555795>MAGGIE HASSAN (NH)>JEANNE SHAHEEN (NH)Even the NH subreddit, which is full of shitlibs and centrists, is fuming about it.
>>2554352Damn, that post ages like a fine wine
Anyone else here old enoug to remeber the Bush (Dubya) years? I feel crazy how out of pocket those 8 years were and now living through everything now its hard to believe things got worse.
>>2556270High school never ends
>>2556263You know, sometimes I think reactoids aren’t human, they’re human-shaped fleshbots created by the internet.
>>2556263why is it always the most soy looking males who say this
>>2556161>10 minsIt’s just a lib doing the longer version of the “socialists aren’t idpol enough”
>>2556263Is it high-T to sell your country to Israeli pedophiles?
>>2556025>>2556020It’s gotta be fun to do a bunch of bad shit and then get “saved” or yell “only God can judge” at your biggest critics
>>2556020he'll come up with a new performative outrage when he releases his next album. he always times his public meltdowns around album releases.
>>2556283yes, but it's even more high T to give it away for free
>>2556198It doesn't have to be a grand plan. It's just them reacting to changing conditions and throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. They have to balance throwing red meat to the "brown foreigners took our jobs" crowd and the "give me a government-assigned barefoot pregnant tradwife handcuffed to stove" crowd
>>2556271then someone puts a bullet in his neck and all the other teenagers will scream like full-estrogenized babies.
>>2556100>>2555826>it's the teachers fault>it's the parents faultno systemic explanation here, guys? Capitalism doesn't afford time for parents to be good parents. Capitalism overworks and underpays teachers while increasing class sizes, even when they are unionized
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