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>>2571257Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet 85 posts and 13 image replies omitted.>>2574706probably not but I would imagine there were conversations being had and whatnot. I would imagine that it's not as catastrophic a decision as some people are making it out to be. And besides, if he even follows through with just 1 of his promises then that's better than anything else.
Like you can sit here and look at the failings but you refuse to compare it to just how fucked it would have been under any of the other retards running. Even if all mamdani does is keep things exactly where they are that would be better than anything the other guys would have done lol. (obviously that's not my actual bar for an acceptable mayoral term but you get the point I hope)
>>2574694it's an unbelievably diverse place where the boundaries between ethnic communities are delineated extremely sharply and the media is bricked solid with racist jokes and cops are deployed mostly to harass black and mexican communities.
the economic disparity between the haves and have nots in the USA is worse than apartheid south africa. even libtards acknowledge this.
>>2574695you don't get to plead a special case and have to deal with the real consequences of deadshit ideas.
>>2574713>Like you can sit here and look at the failings but you refuse to compare it to just how fucked it would have been under any of the other retards running.I am able to see both, and do in fact see both. ITT I always moderate the positions of everyone I talk to. I am very annoying. I try to moderate both the felixes and the CPUSAnons, if you catch my drift.
>>2574716isn't scrum some kind of software development method
>>2574719i thought it was a rugby thing
>>2574717motherfucker I LIVE here don't lecture me about the fucking state of racism. Believe it or not but when the cops aren't involved (which is most the time) the diverse working class gets along with each other regardless of ethnicity etc. I don't really know what your point is but you're a fucking faggot and I don't like you
>>2574717>you don't get to plead a special case and have to deal with the real consequences of deadshit ideas.all I said is that the imperial core proletariat should fight the imperial core capitalists and not volunteer for forever wars. why is that so controversial? And why do people always think I am trying to say some other random "TWist" caricature shit based on negative conversations they had with other anons?
>>2574717>boundaries between ethnic communities are delineated extremely clearly you've never been to New Jersey or Texas, just to name two examples
>>2574724you're preaching to the choir on a leftist board so we're assuming you mean something else because why would you say something everyone already fucking knows and is actively working towards right now?z
>>2574727because I see people fighting on here and making very low quality posts but both sides make decent points. so i try to articulate and synthesize the good points both sides have, but they accuse me of being each other. like the felixes on here will accuse me of being CPUSAnon and vice-versa.
>>2574718>I am very annoyingYeah I fucking bet if you're acting like CPUSAnon isn't the single most chill and reasonable communist on this entire website, especially in comparison to the TWisters felix. He's the only one here who actually knows how to have a level headed conversation and I look up to him no joke lol
Being a centrist between:
complete and totally unhinged retard and
guy with normal takes makes you half retarded
>>2574731=/
see man, this is what i mean
>>2574733Don’t worry anon I agree with you and take a similar tact. I think CPUSanon is one of the best poster on this site but also I do like Felix’s passion.
they are saying it was an 'arab muslim'
>>2574684was still hoping for an answer to this btw. i think there's a misunderstanding, but I have to ask what you think I'm trying to say, to be sure, rather than assume.
>>2574729https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_biaslike I said, I fucking live here dude. You have these weird moments that pop off where a perfect storm of retards show up somewhere but the vast majority of everyday life is normal and I can attest to that. I'm a white dude who has held jobs working alongside almost every single culture you can imagine and it's very chill almost all the time. Sure, the elites are racist dipshits but that's to be expected. The working class here is naturally progressive because we HAVE to be, except for a few pockets in a few sectors that for whatever reason seem to segregate or be more culturally uniform (but those are few and far between)
>>2574733try having actual opinions you yourself hold based on your own experiences and understanding of things using primary sources etc instead of just trying to find middle ground between two people for the sake of balance? idk what else to tell you
>>2574740i also live in america
> Sure, the elites are racist dipshits but that's to be expected. The working class here is naturally progressive because we HAVE to be, except for a few pockets in a few sectors that for whatever reason seem to segregate or be more culturally uniform (but those are few and far between)I've seen a lot of crazy racism but maybe it's because I live in a shitty state lol (no, I will not say which one)
>>2574730cpusanon is a straight up patsoc racist and never has any good points.
my bet is that the shooters politics will be schizophrenic nonsensical and indecipherable. just like the past couple of "poitically motivated" shooters
>>2574742I think Americans are racist but usually not in any consistent or reliable way. It’s why you have people like Catboy Mexican Nick and Candence owens talking about saving the white race and then on the flip side have white people doing black power and talking about overthrowing crackers. Really feels like people get into racism as something to do
>>2574741>try having actual opinions you yourself hold based on your own experiences and understanding of things using primary sources etc instead of just trying to find middle ground between two people for the sake of balance? I do both though. When I first got into "politics" as a kid it was because I was disgusted with the Iraq war, Abu Ghraib, other WORKING CLASS kids at my WORKING CLASS school calling me a faggot for not liking bush and the war, etc etc. that informed my politics and yes it did make me pretty hostile to even my "fellow working class" and then I discovered communism when I was older. So my "moderate" position is not for its own sake , but genuinely is "between" what I see out of, for example, your CPUSAnon types and your iron felix types. I do think there is a lot of national chauvinism, racism, and class collaboration that should be fought, and no I don't think it's "divisive" to bring up some of the perverse incentive structures that plague the US working class. And yes, I do think reactionary bigotry against minorities is holding us back more than pink haired SJWs who have idpol consciousness but lack class consciousness. That is what I try to bring to the table here.
>>2574742racism in the u.s is strange. The kind of racism you'll find in the south is different from out west for example. traditionally In the south living shoulder to shoulder with minorities was acceptable so long as they knew their place. In the west and kind of up north minorities were socially accepted as equals so long as they stayed in their own communities and out of sight
>>2574746i don't think a white person showing solidarity with the anti-racist struggles of black people, even if they use crude terms like "cracker" is the same thing as being a minority who is supporting white supremacy to be seen as "one of the good ones" on the "day of the rope" sorry.
>>2574741>real life experiences>primary sourceswho needs reality when you have anecdotes and propaganda? if you had even basic education you'd know that primary sources require context and the context is racial segregation normalised to the point of being self sustaining.
>>2574745That's most likely the case but my
true desire is that the two servicemen were trying to practice gun katas or some shit and accidentally shot themselves
>>2574718That's called being a contrarian, and yes, it is very annoying.
>>2574747all of that is fair I just want you to understand that everything you just said is almost exactly mine and cpusanons opinion note for note lol
>>2574731>>2574733>>2574735Yeah I think it's worth reiterating that Felix's problem isn't that he's necessarily wrong about shit (he's correct at least half of the time when talking about theory) or that he's too militant (if anything we could use that energy). No, the biggest issue with him is that he's a fucking joyless douchebag who engages in purposefully over the top comparisons to justify his absolute black and white worldview and is more concerned with fantasizing about killing leftists he disagrees with slightly (despite what he may profess, he's actually not very dissimilar to most anarcho-communists) than actually going out and doing anything himself. He genuinely views himself as some kind of elite rearguard who's better than the rest of us because we've committed the sin of not blowing up the White House 20 years ago while the Iraq War was going on, so we have to atone by sacrificing ourselves so that he can walk atop a road of corpses leading to the castle in the air. He's also completely incapable of actually socializing like a normal pereson, and cant hear anyone talk about any form of popular culture or media without immediately having some kind of breakdown.
Basically, for all of his theoretical prowress and militancy, Felix is decidedly anti-social and his caustic attitude is a net drain on any leftist activity. You can be the most immaculate Marxist on the planet but if your only strategy to convince people to do what you want is to scream at them for being literally worse than Hitler because they haven't formed an army yet then nobody is going to follow you. And that's a fact, Jack
>>2574756i see, well have a nice day if that is the case.
>>2574755it's not for the sake of contradicting people, but for the sake of getting them to stop attacking each other and assuming bad faith
>>2574759I believe in both Thomas Sankara's saying that the revolutionary must never be tired of explaining, and the old adage that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. felix understands the former, but not the latter.
Felix lost it
>>2574759felix doesn't have theoretical prowess at all he just goes through the effort of finding quotes and using jargon to justify his literal insanity. He's incoherent entirely because his brain is broken and needs meds for his actual anger problems.
Militancy is cool and all I guess but it's also like… if that was possible it would have happened by now. "revolutionary" communists have been pushing for "overthrow" or whatever for the past 100 years and it hasn't even come close to happening because obviously there's more important issues to worry about.
Most of us here have read as much as felix has, we're just not pedantic retards who cherry pick quotes in a literal bipolar manic rage
>>2574763there's an MIT study for everything
>>2574759You speak of leftist activity, yet the snakes have no leftist activity. The revisionist american Communist never even try to revolt in 106 years. They never build army. They support unions which support wars. So everything you say is wrong.
tbh the bolsheviks were a minority militant faction, we should be raising the revolutionary consciousness of the soldiers (and sailors) as well as the workers. Honolulu Naval Base will be our Kronstadt
I condemn all violence I am a good boy who believes the way to fix america is to vooot for aoc
>>2574771kill yourself retard. We've tried multiple times and I could get the receipts if you really care to know, and every time we've been obliterated.
Change my view: Felix isn't real and it's CPUSA sockpuppeting to make himself look good by comparison
>>2574749Obviously they’re not the same, I guess a better example would be the white people that support the black Israelites. Sorry didn’t mean to say they were the same. I think Americans got a very twister and nonsensical view about race, it really feels like a mass identity crisis.
>>2574663>they blew past reactionary and are full blown fascistsIs the only difference scale, media attention or how white you feel it is? Obama did the same things, sat on top of the same system, bombed and coup several countries so why doesn't he get called fascist? Honestly feels like skin color is all you care about and you would ignore everything if Kamala was prez. Idpol behavior.
>>2574780> I think Americans got a very twister and nonsensical view about race, it really feels like a mass identity crisis.jesse what the fuck are you talking about? "mass identity crisis" motherfucker you just implied that the only americans are white lmao.
>>2574780> I guess a better example would be the white people that support the black Israelitesyeah i know what you mean. that's clownish. when people say "black racists" I have to interrogate further to find out if they mean cults like the BHI or if they're one of those hysterical people who think the black panthers were some kind of black mirror to the KKK (that used to be more common of a thing I heard people say, but not anymore)
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