/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2577928
to be fair, it's framed around Lincoln's head. which implies, in my headcanon, that Lincoln has collected them like war trophies

>>2577937
because certain people on here have a redditor conception of China that is based on suicide net uyghur genocide tiananmen square blah blah blah. not to derail this thread into china/india, but it is incredibly obvious which people have a better standard of living.

>>2577937
Because of two reasons. One if that India is a very very successful country (if you're a bloodsucking parasite) and the other is no matter how successful China is or how much they do to punish parasitic behaviour or give support to the weak and struggling China will always be bad because it's not "democratic".
I watched a documentary about the richest people in Dehli living up the most debaucherous roman empire esque life style whilst the people of old dehli rot in victorian era slum conditions in unsafe work environments for bosses who pay no taxes.

>>2577931
Anyone else notice the right constantly plays up this

>we were Europeans and shit

But at the same time think euros are genetically gay communist? Trump’s particularly dismissive to Europe. So I don’t really get how they’re trying to square this circle.

>>2577927
Lincoln was evil landowner who volunteered to genocide natives. America today is lincoln's grand vision

>>2577941
It's literally "we're more european than the europeans" whilst slurping on a big gulp and shitting their sweatpants.

>>2577937
Why are you antidemocratic?

>>2577943
lol lincoln owned less land than his father, and he was president of the united states

>>2577937
Kerala is only successful because it has programs sending workers to the UAE and Qatar with lots of remittances coming back

>>2577941
'western civilization first' seems like an attempt to counter the rising 'american first' movement. especially if europe is about to go to war with Russia. I'm not sure it'll work

>>2577947
nah there are metrics like life expectancy and sanitation where kerala outperforms the rest of india, and that is not explainable by remittances alone. But in any case remittances are a reflection of imperialism, where the same labor will get paid different wages depending on what country you work in. Those who oppose a conspiracy of mass migration but do not address the wage question will only militarize their borders and not actually fix the root cause.

if india is bad why are they so fucking kino?

>>2577954
ZARDOZ

>>2577941
there's many different types of rightoid. you have your richard spencer types who look to EVROPA and hitlerian national socialism, your america first types who want multiracial ᴉuᴉlossnW style fascism but more religious, your MIGA/MAGA normies, your larouchites, your lolbertarians who want to privatize and deregulate everything, your various type of hotep reactionaries who larp as pharaohs or jews, your oldguard "neo"liberals and "neo"cons who haven't been "neo" in 50 years, your zionists, your salafists, your hindutvas, etc.

>>2577946
Wrong. Lincoln owned bonds and land because he was genocidal interest seeking parasite who killed natives and workers

>>2577947
>Kerala is only successful because it has programs
true

>>2577971
socialism is when there are programs
and when the programs last 5 years then it is communism

>>2577965
Yeah. Reading "A History of Fascism" by Stanley Payne and despite the obvious commonalities between Italian fascism and German Nazism, they were quite different in some important respects. In the 1930s, ᴉuᴉlossnW began to search for fascist imitators in other countries and they began to speak about it being a bigger movement for EVROPA, and while there were a lot of little parties and right-wing groups to choose from, they had a hard time figuring out who were fascists or not because they never really defined it.

>>2577941
As this anon mentioned >>2577965 there are lots of different kinds of right wingers.

Honestly I think "The Right" can be divided into "intellectuals" and its "base", with there being some friction between them that explodes into contempt on occasions. The "Intellectuals" tend to be more WASPy and fall for the "EVROPA" nonsense, the "base" tends to be more religious and kind of "typical" of American nationalists. Funny enough this cropped up with the "Martel Society", who were psychotic paleocons. They had some connection with both Richard Spencer and I believe Matthew Heimbach, but came to support Spencer because Heimbach was "too low class" for them. Spencer was a clean-cut WASP who could talk about Bach or whatever, Heimbach would be more into Metallica.

Of course within the "base" of the Right, it isn't wholly "working class". I'd say its as powerful as it is because of a layer of petite-bourgeois supporters that can leverage resources if angry enough to steer the conversation. I don't think those petite-bouge types give a fuck about shit like Race "science" (though they're undoubtedly racist) but rather they're a grab-bag of contradictory positions with a wholly incoherent set of politics. Like they'll still try to claim they're "not racist" but think Black people should get the death penalty for minor crimes to "keep them in line" or they think "free market competition is good" just not for their local towns.

So you kind of had this with Charlie Kirk's death and evangelicals getting angry at claims he was "about to convert to Catholicism." They can't stand that these god-damned Catholics act like they're better than them because they have a theology and the evangelicals have "the banana proves evolution isn't real because it was designed to perfectly fit into our hands". The intellectual right sees the base as bores, as morons that they'll try to manipulate into the "correct" line but will just as easily veer off like spoiled children to demand schools teach that the world is only 7,000 years old. The base despises the intellectual right because they're effeminate and gay and make them look stupid by usin' all them fancy college words. The Right Wing base is truly anti-intellectual in that they see anyone with an argument beyond "THE BIBLE SAYS IT/I BELIEVE IT/THAT SETTLES IT!" as insidious and resembling those gay liberal academics too much. They're truly authoritarian because they believe that merely asserting something makes it true in itself.

I think post-Trump there'll be a rupture in the GOP between the "right wing intellectuals" and the base. The intellectuals would try to rally behind some Thiel backed candidate like J.D. Vance. The base will want a genuine flyover retard like MTG.

>>2576595
the only thing that makes me question whether this post is real is that it wasn't written in bastardised hebrew.

>>2577967
Jefferson and Jackson were the worst offenders as regards forced removal and genocide. When the civil war pitted brother against brother in the 'Gettysburg of the west' (not Glorietta but Honey Springs) the five nations involved were fighting for survival on the only land they had left. What they got in return were orphanages to house the offspring of the fallen.

>>2576286
Realistically, collapse is more likely than managed degrowth or revolt, and we should probably be anticipating that, as the next historic stage. I don't even think capital is useful as a framing device anymore, it is just extinction, the forces of extinction and the anti-extinct movement. Just as capital is always destined to win, extinction is destined to prevail over life. The main strategy consists of communicating to future humans living in a world which is thoroughly subjugated by the extinctionist forces, and conveying whatever information we can glean about them in the present. ie their methods, what gods they worship, what the role of child rape is in all of their rituals; evidence of extinctionists committing human sacrifice should be preserved and propagated like the frazzledrip video.

>>2577937
Real capitalism has never been tried and gommunism killed 1 gigantillion people in Ukkkraine alone…

>>2577985
>The "Intellectuals" tend to be more WASPy and fall for the "EVROPA" nonsense, the "base" tends to be more religious and kind of "typical" of American nationalists. Funny enough this cropped up with the "Martel Society", who were psychotic paleocons. They had some connection with both Richard Spencer and I believe Matthew Heimbach, but came to support Spencer because Heimbach was "too low class" for them.
Yeah, social class. I ran across Julia James Davis recently. She's a Houston oil heiress who has become a "trad Western beauty" influencer and Catholic convert. It's the same with right-wing literature, like if you read Oswald Spengler and casting about wistfully at the Decline of the West, you were either one of these Martel Society people, or you were a professor (and perhaps not even a conservative but you read it for research purposes), or you were a British/German aristocrat in 1920. Roger Scruton, the English conservative intellectual, was another one of these types.

>The Right Wing base is truly anti-intellectual in that they see anyone with an argument beyond "THE BIBLE SAYS IT/I BELIEVE IT/THAT SETTLES IT!" as insidious and resembling those gay liberal academics too much.
Oh yeahg. Well they distrust any class of "experts" telling them how to live. This recalls Jeffersonianism which downgraded intellectual labor to be more on the same level as manual labor, and which was opposed to the feudal world of Europe in which they came. Of course this has turned reactionary so they're drinking horse paste but a lot of this neo-Catholic trad stuff is some yearning for moral discipline by scions of the haute bourgeoisie and those who want to level up to that elite plane, while the downwardly-mobile Evangelicals in the Republican base will eventually rebel and be like "begone with your Roman popery! War in the spirit! War in the spirit!"

>>2578009
Could use a bit of greenery tbh

>>2578001
>Oh yeahg. Well they distrust any class of "experts" telling them how to live. This recalls Jeffersonianism which downgraded intellectual labor to be more on the same level as manual labor, and which was opposed to the feudal world of Europe in which they came.

I don't even know if its Jeffersonian so much as maybe an outcropping of a very authoritarian parenting style. Like the type of midwestern parent that burns Harry Potter books because they're convinced its "witchcraft". No arguing with them, no disobedience, no logic, just get smacked across the cheek and told to shut up and obey.

>>2578020
I will be living INSIDE the literal communist block on top of the communist apartment block.

>>2578020
both kinda look like shit fam

>>2578027
sucks for you

>>2578020
This is not raygun gothic

>>2578028
I think socialist architecture will be completely different when capitalism falls globally and that to dwell on the architecture of the past is reactionary (especially so when a lot of USSR architecture fell off incredibly hard after Stalin and literally was replaced with western-influenced brutalism) Hell, even during Stalin's and Lenin's time the debate on socialist architecture was far from settled.

another kkkrakkka down ugotfw

>>2578018
>obey
Don't read trads /fundies also expect cringing, servile fear from 'their' women as well? It seems like they cherry pick to fit a political agenda which is tantamount to a giant larp. From what I've seen it is self defeating in that the oppressed lose heart and rebel if they recognize the abusive patterns and choose to break the cycle. But it seems fear is also a trap, and the greater the fear the more difficult the escape from it.

>>2577757
>weren't they mostly non latins?
She mean she is descended from that one
gladiator who was formerly a Roman general Maximums Meridius, from that movie gladiator.

>>2577753
Does she also LARP as Christian? It just occured to me how funny it is for Christians to celebrate gladiator fights when that's one of their biggest legends is about how they stopped them.

>>2578033
Socialist architecture will be whatever I feel like cus I'll be head chairman of the Building Department obviously

>>2578033
It will be art deco which is peak
>>2578060
Silence bureaucrat

>>2578062
Shut up, filing paperwork is good for the soul and it's okay if someone's calling is to collate paper and make big lists and spreadsheets and sign papers and shuffle assets around

>>2578057
>Don't read trads /fundies also expect cringing, servile fear from 'their' women as well? It seems like they cherry pick to fit a political agenda which is tantamount to a giant larp. From what I've seen it is self defeating in that the oppressed lose heart and rebel if they recognize the abusive patterns and choose to break the cycle. But it seems fear is also a trap, and the greater the fear the more difficult the escape from it.

The smart ones mix fear and shit like love-bombing or whatever to really fuck with your head. You grow up seeing love as conditional and so you do whatever you can without confidence until someone else tells you "good job".

They basically want to make claims with all this fire and brimstone vigor then feel some sense of humiliation when someone says "you're wrong".

>>2578057
In America the real girl bosses are on the right but no one's ready for that conversation.

>>2578103
I guess that makes sense. I grew up with the humiliation part but never believed false praise if I received it. It's a logical inconsistency. Maybe I would've fallen for it except that fosters and pretenders have difficulty enough posing as real parents.
>>2578111
The only girl 'bosses' I ever had was when I was pussy whipped when I was younger. Heh…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnOCuAePLzQ

honkoid status?

>>2578111
Not only limited to america, by a long shot.

>>2578066
Whatever you say statist

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