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>>2575920Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine
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>>2585802
Ukrops think that Russia is genociding Ukrainian children. Russia, however, merely evacuated children from the frontlines, and since they are now Russian citizens living in dangerous territories, they got priority admission into all kinds of tourist/rehabilitation facilities in Russia - which usually have some kind of patriotic educatio/programs (aka they call Bandera a Nazi war criminal)
Russia is returning children to Ukrainian mothers, however. So I have no clue why are Ukrainians bitching about this so much
>>2585303
Rolling in grave power generator
>>2585494
well, the EU/NATO is threatening to send them back home to die for the banderites, so it's not too flattering.
>>2585807>Ukrops think that Russia is genociding Ukrainian children. No they don't. They made a big media show about having accused Russia of violating the genocide convention, but what they actually accused them of has nothing to do with any sort of Russian Genocide of Ukrainians. Ukraine just accused Russia of misusing the genocide convention as a justification for launching the SMO.
>>2585826>No they don't.They officially did and explicitly included the claims of "children abductions" in the justification
https://itd.rada.gov.ua/billinfo/Bills/Card/39411 >>2585829it's incredible how in both sides, the Gaza/Palestine-Zionist and Ukraine-Russia conflict, the two topics diverge so much, without any "reasonable person" finding a coherent justification for how Europe supports both conflicts.
in the former, Israel
wants nations to abduct people in Gaza, literally. the reason is simple: they
don't belong to Israel. in the latter, banderites pretend they
belong to them. but anyhow, no European imperialist can delimit coherently these distinctions without exploding or writing a useless wall text that can only be supported and would only make sense thanks to the weapons and violence they can exert.
>>2585829There's also the thing that they tried to find a compromising "not so serious" crime allegation for Putin that any sane person would respond with "yeah, I did this, how's that a crime?" - Putin moving children away from the war zone. For THIS and THIS alone Putin was declared a war criminal wanted in Hague via ICC. Unlike Netanyahoo's allegation of perpetrating a genocide, Putin's crime is like "come on man, just admit yourself, we promise we won't neck you over it after investigation finds you innocent :^)"
>>2585837There's a lot of mental gymnastics involved when you see the entire Western world unanimously oppose a country, every transnational conglomerate that makes half of the world economy sanction and condemn it from day 1, and then say it's an interimperialist conflict or something
That's really all there is to it, 272 threads distilled into a simple idea some people refuse to get because Russia's aesthetics are chvddy or something
>>258583727 different countries have different stances on Israel. Spain and Ireland are anti-zionist while Germany is too mind fucked to condemn another genocide. There is no EU conscensus.
>>2585837On Ukraine situation there is entire Europe saying that invading countries is bad and then there is far right Hungary telling that its not big of a deal we need cheap gas. No serious person thinks that le banderites is an argument for anything outside Russia and Belarus.
>>2585852>there is entire Europe sayingAnd that's how you know Russia is a progressive force
>>2585854Funny situation where everyone else is a evil nazi so its ok for you to indiscriminately bomb civilian apartment buildings.
>>2585861>they were wrong on Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Palestine but this time, somehow this time, they are right about Russia and leftists should support the entire capitalist order! Just this time bro, I promiseogey
>>2585847Tbh I think it’s a case of ad populum. Western leftists are actually extremely reluctant to disagree with bourgeois epistemology, because they’re obsessed with having credibility in the few scenarios they’re platformed (to be humiliated on right-wing podcasts normally).
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the only reason why Palestine is the exception is because there are enough wealthy christchuds uncomfortable with a Jewish state that the media is open to discussion in a way it usually isn’t about foreign affairs. Rojava was another example but again that’s because of Assad and the US armed them against him.. along side other groups less compatible with leftist ideologies, to say the least.
>>2585866Making Stalin proud. Long live national liberation and Sakai.
>>2585888
>they could sanction Israel. both
So could Russia and Putin but he chooses to maintain the "special relationship" with Israel.
>>2585922Palestine is the exception because it has decades of real struggle behind it from the times when the USSR was alive and the global communist movement was active, so the pro-Palestine movement is still ruling on those fumes. Anything more contemporary modern leftists are unable to conceptualize and analyze in any coherent fashion instead of falling back on bourgeois epistemology or empty dogmatic sloganeering as you said.
>>2585930>”special relationship”Honestly it’s pretty pathetic that false equivalencies between trade and military aid are continuing into a second day.
>>2585945I agree. Both russia and israel are denazifying their enemies and are united in this fight.
these posts are irrelevant moralism on the level of "dae ruzzia is mean to lgbt?" btw
>>2585930why would they? Israel economy isn't sustained on Russia's shoulders. It's like pretending that the whole existence of that state is 'cause of Russia's economic power.
that's why Russia doesn't suffer of finding weird excuses between one case and the other. how the narrative of these children is managed by Europeans diplomats is a case of psychological studies.
>>2585944Afraid I have to disagree, there were lots of opposition amongst the western left against bourgeois narratives about many countries, taking lead from the USSR and the PRC, but all of that open-mindedness about non-liberal democratic states has long since degenerated and its only really Cuba (as discussed the other day) and Palestine continues on fumes as rightly you said
>But you belong to this ethnic group?
>But what about your immediate, short-term material interests?
Why is having class consciousness such a shock to people?
>>2585922>I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the only reason why Palestine is the exception there are enough wealthy christchuds uncomfortable with a Jewish state that the media is open to discussion in a way it usually isn’t about foreign affairsno, I think it's more because it's the only 'pure' narrative they can find, they can sell, and they can feel good about it, and feel good themselves when talking about it. it's more a combination, rather than a single factor.
if you are going to market yourself as a progressive you need to
talk progressive. you can't simply adopt the language to say, i.e. that Ivan Duque's Colombia was progressive. but in Palestine they found a perfect niche, where everything can be simply ignored be cause Palestine is the weaker link always. though it's a good litmus test, it has created a bunch of reactionary people that doesn't think two times before spitting some bullshit.
For these ultras, pondering the nuances is a difficult task, because goes against their own beliefs, promoted by the material conditions they live in.
but in resume: The EU and the US has more weight in that situation, so whatever they want to talk about China in Russia is as stupid as talking about the effects of a mosquito bite in your skin and sunbathing from 9AM to 3PM on the beaches of Cali.
>>2585696
Look at you. Getting emotional like a female.
>>2586001>>2585922>I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the only reason why Palestine is the exception there are enough wealthy christchuds uncomfortable with a Jewish state that the media is open to discussion in a way it usually isn’t about foreign affairs<no, I think it's more because it's the only 'pure' narrative they can find, they can sell, and they can feel good about it, and feel good themselves when talking about itNo, you're both wrong, it's because we've been arguing and organising around Palestine for literal generations.
Why do I have to keep telling you people this when it should be so intuitively obvious to anyone even on the sidelines of the left?
>>2586041>we’veI don’t think modern leftists, who shit on nearly every achievement and development that was ever made outside of an imperialist capitalist society in the 20th century, should crediting themselves along side leftists of yesteryear who were genuinely against western imperialism in more circumstances than just Palestine and in more ways than just saying invasions bad but sanctions and NGOs are merely in aid of democracy.
>>2586041Who's "we"? You speaking French?
>>2586079Very based KCNA report, the AI cover was disturbing lol
>>2586006>>2585992Wow Ukraine will not have been this much of a force for technological progress since when they retroactively made themselves the Romans.
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-december-5thRussia has captured the little village of Bezymyannoe, putting them into position to threaten and possibly cut the main supply artery into Konstantinovka.
>>2586403The West tries to create bullshit jobs and keep unemployment down, meanwhile Russia…
>>2586403Mods permaban this man for racism now
>>2586403Materialist explanation? How does india benefit?
>>2586472Unemployed people bad. That was easy.
>>2585992Computer, load up celery man, please!
Sum1 bake nu bread
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