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>>2582956Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet 542 posts and 143 image replies omitted.>>2586049Sure Ron. Put your name back on.
>>2585744> foaming at the mouth for orange hitler to invade and rape your neighbors house because you think he's annoyingthis might be a vocal minority in latin america
>>2586052Amazing how a natural feature of every human become a fetish because of stupid grooming norms. American culture sucks on every level.
>>2586037How much euro is it to get that in eastern europe? I make <700 a month.
I hope the chinese sex robots are cheap cuz I want one too.
>>2586056Lol cry about it incel.
>>2586056that's actually a good point anon
(i am the anon you are responding to and was just riffing, I don't actually have a pit hair fetish)>>2586062I don't see how it's incelish to point out the fetishization of natural features due to grooming norms
>>2586064You're upset at me having a sexuality since you get nothing.
It has nothing to do with your idea that it was fetishizing since it's contradictory to grooming standards, (which was wrong lol).
>>2586042Unfortunately CPUSA still tries it's hardest to destroy the left, which is why the left should try it's hardest to destroy them.
>>2586068>You're upset at me having a sexuality since you get nothing.Anon you don't know anything about my personal life but let me not bother to reassure since this kind of conversation is always a race to the bottom, and accusations of sexual inactivity are just bait. What point is there in telling you anything? If I say I am sexually active, you will say I am lying, and then actual incels will come out to seethe at sex havers anyway. I suspect this is a ploy to fill the thread up fast. I have noticed that sexual conversations tend to start around post 500.
>>2586071>addicted to losingit's called false opposition. it's called being the "left" wing of capital. Capital's non-dominant hand.
>>2586073Democrats are the establishment party idiot
>>2585512>We do capitalism, and communism better then anyone else. Unironic lovestoneism in 2025 lmao
>>2586086those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it, and those who do know history are doomed to get called gay nerds by those who run around repeating history
>>2585850pete kegsbreath has to be able to suck a golf ball through a garden hose. to succeed in the army you have to be gay. to make it to the top you have to be the most gay.
>>2586086Real Lovestoneism has never been tried
does anyone have the clip of Alex Karp doing a sit down interview but can't fucking sit down because he's coked the fuck out.
ACP shills are so fucking retarded lmao. Weird ass aggro haz cultists who offer nothing. You'll be laughed into irrelevance or thrown in jail for rape.
>>2586097Every socialist american org will tail the ACP in 5 years, you can frame this. it's really not that ideologically distinct since its main ingredient is american exceptionalism
>>2586071>Demand humility on the part of Democrats, a sincere accounting of how they contributed to the electorate's fracturing along lines of class and culture.I mean the statement itself isn't that incorrect but guaranteed that "accounting" looks like moving even further to the Right.
You can't do Clintonite triangulation without being libs in the culture war, no one is actually interested in neoliberalism anymore, it doesn't have any legitimacy as a governing ideology. The idea "Oh people will get behind neoliberalism if we just drop anything liberatory or socially progressive in it" is just batshit stupid.
Yes the Dems do need to account for their actions, but they need to account for how they acted in service of neoliberalism. You need class first politics, not apologizing for "dividing people by class" (really they mean apologizing to billionaires) and "culture" (this they actually did fuck up on)
>>2586101You'll all be arrested for trafficking meth dawg lmao
>>2586101This is like saying in the 70s-80s that everyone will tail LaRouche. it's delusional. Nobody wants to tail a bunch of reactionary schizos who tail the GOP and whose only virtue is "anti-"imperialism which takes the peculiar form of trying to mix the
aesthetics and
rhetoric of anti-imperialism with American patriotism
>>2586097>ACP shills are so fucking retarded lmao.Agree, same with CPUSA and DSA shills.
>>2586106>which takes the peculiar form of trying to mix the aesthetics and rhetoric of anti-imperialism with American patriotismThe CPUSA pretty much invented this flavor of "communism" and shaped every org since then, it's really not that different, the character is the exact same. The only thing that's materially different is that the ACP has, for know, separated itself from the Democratic party unlike every other major org which are all basically entryist
>>2586110yeah, they just tail the elephants instead, based on the false perception that it is somehow "less reactionary" than the donkeys, and the tail specifically its reactionary social positions, on the false premise that scapegoating LGBT people and women is somehow "anti-imperialist" because they take Demonkkkrap pinkwashing propaganda at face value. But they go even further, replacing Marx with Heidegger, Lenin with Dugin, Stalin with Nick Land, and Mao with Lyndon Larouche.
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>>2586109>>2586106>"anti-"imperialism Say whatever you want about them but they are outflanking everyone else on the american left on anti-imperialism, but this strasserite general thinks anti-imperialism is woke or something so no one will admit it.
>>2586114I said they're outflanking everyone, I also pointed out the bar is so low it makes the core of the Earth look like heaven. And I also pointed out their rotten reactionary politics of scapegoating LGBT as somehow more imperialist than cishet people, because they fundamentally take bourgeois pinkwashing propaganda at face value.
>>2586114it's not really anti imperialism anyway. It is the aesthetics and rhetoric of anti imperialism mixed with the social chauvinism of "MAGA" and "America First."
How is mixing sincere American exceptionalism and sincere patriotic chauvinism with purely rhetorical anti-imperialism not a reactionary recipe for disaster? It is really tiresome.
>>2586114Even libertarians say they are anti-imperialist. Take one peak under the hood and you know they are full of shit
>>2586114>Say whatever you want about them but they are outflanking everyone else on the american leftThey can do this because they're free to not tow the democratic party line, yeah larouchites have historically being ridiculous clowns but in the absence of an electoral avenue which doesn't lead back to either the GOP or the dems, the ACP is the only game in town at the moment, a curious historical contingency.
Notice how ACP shills say "Class first" but then embrace needless reactionary politics of scapegoating marginalized groups like LGBT on the rhetorical grounds that they are "rainbow imperialists". If you push back on this completely unnecessary and irrelevant scapegoating, which objectively centers idpol, you get told that no, actually you're the one doing idpol, and actually it's class-first to scapegoat people. No a real class-first approach to politics wouldn't demonize them OR elevate them over everyone else, it would just treat them like regular human beings and protect them from bigotry, while still making class struggle and anti imperialism the central agenda. How is this not complete common sense at this point?
>>2586133they literally shill "MAGA communism," "ethical landlords," "Women should obey and vote according to their husband's will," "LGBT people are all imperailist." . But they go even further, replacing Marx with Heidegger, Lenin with Dugin, Stalin with Nick Land, and Mao with Lyndon Larouche. They are not a Marxist party. They do interviews with Nick Fuentes and go on incel podcasts. They are a bunch of reactionary stremers and grifters, and the fact that you shill them as "the only game in town" is very suspect.
and if opposing bigotry is "liberal idpol" in your stupid reactionary opinion, then consider also that Hinkle said "Communists don't oppose private property."
>>2586140I'm not arguing against the ACP being crazy reactionaries, I'm saying that they're outflanking everybody because they do not need to tow close to either party and are free to take firm stances against Israel, Ukraine and Venezuela adventures, that's it, that's what's different, and I've also argued that the American exceptionalism character of the ACP is not out of line with the rest of the orgs, especially the CPUSA. This is why the ACP is eating their lunch, and why I will predict it will be the dominant, "communist" party in the close future.
>>2586140While I'm typically non sectarian and I vibe with the general left spectrum, the TWister and ACP alliance gets no support from me in any way, and I hope they all step on rakes until they're either punched in the mouth, made a laughing stock, or imprisoned. Complete fucking scumbags they are.
>>2586146>Not shilling ACP just claiming they have more motion than the parties everyone actually knows and cares aboutYou're fucking braindead brother
>>2586148>the TWister and ACP alliance There's no such thing, only a once in a generation moron would think this
>>2586151They objectively have more motion, either do something about it or cry about it, but it's true
>>2586133>They can do this because they're free to not tow the democratic party line, yeah larouchites have historically being ridiculous clowns but in the absence of an electoral avenue which doesn't lead back to either the GOP or the dems, the ACP is the only game in town at the moment, a curious historical contingency.No offense but what the hell are you talking about? PSL runs independent candidates, as does the CPUSA, pretty sure Socialist Alternative does too.
Where's this myth that somehow "The ACP is the only game in town" come from? They aren't the biggest Communist Party nor are they even the most successful.
>>2586155Lmfao holy shit what are you talking about? Tell me what they're actually doing PLEASE. Give me literally any example of actions they're taking, motions they're passing, support they're gaining, elections they're winning, literally
anything >>2586157They're a fucking
laughing stock by any stretch of the imagination, they only exist on the internet, they scare the hoes, and exist solely on reddit/discord. It's fucking wild we even have to talk about them
>>2586155>>2586146if you think they're more relevant than everyone else you might be terminally online or just shilling them with slightly more subtlety now that the irrefutable reactionary nature of their grifter streamer leadership has been elaborated upon multiple times
>>2586159>Make unsubstantiated claims>Prefix them with "objectively" or "material"That's pretty much the crux of what passes for argumentation or analysis on here.
It's a goddamn shame because the whole point of dialectical materialism is to avoid the kind of vibes based assertions of shit like "The Protestant Work Ethic" and grounding political thought in reality. Instead it's used by a few as window dressing for the same vibe based assumptions.
>>2586166>>2586167Y'know what fucking blows my mind is the ACP will make bizarre exclamations
>"Gays are naturally imperialist">"America is some authoritarian collectivist Eurasianist state" They'll proclaim themselves "MAGA Communists" and you'll get absolutely childish people here saying "Erm, they're objectively to the left of the CPUSA".
I think this boils down to people not even in leftist orgs trying to dictate what the wider movement "should look like"
>>2586172It like… HAS to be solely keyboard warrior shit, right? How much of this even happens irl? Is this just another permutation of the "marketplace of ideas"?
>>2586174Yknow I think an awful lot about what an older comrade once told me, which amounted to: "The most radical thing you can
say doesn't necessarily mean the most radical thing you can
do.." I'd say people who aren't in parties but consider themselves "Marxist-Leninists" are attracted more to the aesthetic of politics than actual politics.
And the ACP is a great source of aesthetics for them, they're throwing their logo on everything, they're waving their flags around, its a full social media blitz. Most importantly they always swagger about like they're "winning" and act like every tiny advance is a huge momentum shifting victory.
It's great for people who are more concerned with vibes I'd say.
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