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Through Nazism To A Zionist Village edition.

Previous: >>2581161

Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740
https://azovlobby.substack.com/
https://banderalobby.substack.com/

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Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.press/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

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>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4

📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zuygh9Mzuo

<Current Happenings

📺 • The Grayzone: https://www.youtube.com/@thegrayzone7996
📺 • DDGeopolitics: https://www.youtube.com/@DDGeopolitics
📺 • Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
📺 • The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
📺 • The News Atlas: https://www.youtube.com/c/thenewatlas
📺 • Military Summary: https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary

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>>2587789
Was Stalin complicit in Nazis' invasions and enslavement of Europe? He traded with Nazis, afrer all

>>2587776
Grillpilled was Lithuanian and lacked a hate boner for ML afaik. So no.

>my liberal state won't stop aiding the liberal genocide because it is legal according to the liberal laws

Finally someone gets it!

>>2587781
release the gunther

>>2587679
Fucking on the civilian population only makes them support the war and the government harder, but if it's electricity… ehhhhh.

>>2587792
>was the head of state that helped Nazi Germany re-arm complicit in its crimes????

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>>2587796
>we brought you civilization, you jungle ingrates, and what we get for it?! You condemn us for "colonialism" and demand payments! NEVER! YOU GET NOTHINGGGGG

>>2587799
>Stalin helped Nazis re-arm
Before or after Nazi unilateral sanctions and severing of trade with USSR? Help me understand your position on calling USSR responsible for Nazi rearmament

Stalin helped Nazis eradicate Polish Jews because German unipolarity

Then he allied with wholesome multipolar west to defeat them

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How am I supposed to take the "umm, akschually, I am from the third world, and I am against third-worldism" posts seriously, when I hear constant screeching of Westerner pseudo-ultras declaring real socialism has never been tried and never existed anywhere, ever, at any point.

>>2587806
>western
Italians are brown

>>2587790
>Libs say genocide is okay so
Really? Is this the level you people are at atm?
>>2587792
The Soviet Union was involved in all out war by the time the killing part of the Holocaust really got going. Should they have decided against any trade before or after 1939? Difficult to tell because of hindsight and considering the context. Many attempts were made at a (Soviet led) anti-Nazi coalition in eastern Europe whilst this trade was going on. Including Soviet aid to Poland right before the invasion. The same Poland that tried to cozy up to Berlin under Piłsudski's Sanation regime and made numerous territorial claims on neighbors.
Something should have been done before 1939, but that goes for all the involved parties. But an attempt was made over in Moscow.

Tell me, has Beijing offered military assistance yet to Hezbollah, the Syrian government, Hamas or Gaza and Lebanon generally?

>>2587805
Poland allied with Hitler, and their support for Nazis was tangible and practical, such as forcing France to abandon it's ally Czechoslovakia. Similarly, Westoids bear responsibility for Nazis, as they've swallowed remilitarization of Rhineland without as much as a squeak against it, didn't do anything about Austria. Meanwhile, Russia "invaidng" Ukraine is suddenly a ground for calling a genocide against Russians, lol

>>2587811
>calling a genocide against Russians
No, only Russian workers and genocide in form of imperialist war.

Total liberal-leftist alliance against workers

>>2587810
>has Beijing offered military assistance

To Iran for sure. But then Iran is mired in cucking out to USA and Israel on their own, Iranian president was straight up trying to rapproachment with Israel

Do Egyptians bear responsibility for Israeli genocide in Gaza, btw?

>>2587810
Being better than libs (and all other politics) at all times is tiring work, you know.

>a Westerner is criticizing Asiatic Horde socialists, listen and learn!
<*look inside*
>TRADE WAR! MORE TRADE WAR! ALL THE TRADE WAR!
>GO TO REAL WAR! START A PROXY WAR! WW3 RIGHT NOW!
Tell me about these Westerner "leftists". Why are they so bloodthirsty and barbaric? How do I learn this constant… need for ostracism?

>>2587818
You're a westerner leftist

Death to the Banderite Entity!

Arseniy "Lupin" Yatsenyuk


>>2587751
No. Kautsky was correct in identifying that a cartel of the wealthiest nations (the West) ruling over the rest of the world was a seeming path for them to avoid major war and stagnation. He was wrong in thinking it could be stable.

But it is absolutely what was attempted after the collapse of the USSR. It failed in only twenty years because the West didn’t understand China or Russia and was deluded by the power of GDP vs industrial capability.

If China was to be taken over tomorrow by Gusanos I’m sure the Western hegemony could last many decades more before being doomed by demographic decline and the growth of Africa.

>>2587813
Iran is in no position to do anything but “cuck” atm unless Beijing sends them nukes and stealth cruise missiles. The water crisis in Tehran alone is extremely dangerous to the government. It was poor harvests that created the conditions for the Syrian civil war.

>>2587316
Yeah, because to do something about it would be revolutionary. Most countries won't let you run candidates in elections, sit in the parliament much less in the government unless you denounce any intentions to change anything in your program.

Frezspech staus?

This is an interimperialist conflict.

Geopolitics is bourgeois politics.

Death to the West.

Putin is a voluntarist deviationist.

The renegade Glownonymous

>>2587939
Between the US and EU.

N

>America open up to new peace terms
>nothing happens
>Russia says peace terms could be "a start"
>nothing happens
>Zolonsko says peace terms are "constructive yet difficult"
>nothing happens

>>2587982
US and Ukraine more like, Ukraine helped to imperialise Iraq on a promise of givas, a promise that was not kept.

>>2587988
None of the participants can offer "suitable" peace terms for political reasons.

Tbh I think the US is just going to let europe eat shit, then take advantage of the crash in living conditions to scalp their best, brightest, and richest. Demanding more nato spending is just demanding more wealth transfer to the US, taking money now to make weapons they'll probably never deliver since without their colonies in EE and Africa, Europe is a lost cause.

The Afrikaner relief program is just the start. The US is going to become a cesspool of reactionary levels that shouldn't even be possible.

>>2588008
This. I think something the American bourgeoisie are keen to rid themselves of is US libs pointing to how social services work in Europe and particularly the Scandinavian states, suggesting such policies and spending would be applicable for America.
Getting Sweden and Finland to drop being “the happiest countries in the world” in favour of militarisation, anti-immigration, privatisation is probably a bigger win for the US against its own proletariat and that of it new NATO *ahem* “protectorates” than against Russia.

>>2587989
>didn't follow on helping ukraine after Iraq
>didn't follow on nuclear subs after making Australia shaft the deals with France
>tarrif everyone,even the countries with positive trade

>>2587988
The truth is they are never going to reach terms that satisfy both parties because Russia is winning so it will demand full recognition of territories, full neutrality and demilitarization of Ukraine, etc. and Ukraine is fanatical about their "sovereignty" on all of this shit so they'll refuse to give up anything no matter how bad their situation is. America is only still running these talks because of Trump's "peacemaker" shtick and how he foolishly promised he would end the Ukraine war as soon as he became president.
>>2588008
Your idea is probably true, scalping the best, brightest and richest of other nations is how the US got to the top and stayed on top. And since they primarily want to stay on top at all costs, they will cannibalize their allies if they can to stop China from surpassing them.

>>2588018
It is no longer about expanding the empire but preserving the supremacy of the core.


Forcing the analysis of zionism into the 'fascist' box along with the whole 20th century Left keeps the focus on the symptom and inadvertently:

1. Traps the Palestinian struggle in a Western ideology debate of 'fascism vs communism' thereby gatekeeping it to the Western Left

2. Keeps the fight divided on an ideological plane rather than one that transcends Western political framing (international jewry/communism vs jewish nationalism and all other 'Western' isms) and focuses on the real national liberation struggle around self-determination and sovereignty. This is where global support can be achieved because it directly links the struggle to the nations subverted by the same ideology.

The struggle today has evolved or is at least more apparent from 80 years ago. The disease is now a supremacist ideology and vast political entity that has covertly conquered and redirected the power of previous empires creating a more sinister one of its own.

We have to name the issue of *today* and it certainly is not basic 'white supremacy' or simple 'fascism'.

Thoughts from y'all



>>2587076
Is it true? I recently have bought that book, I don't like Russian government, but i don't think you can go to jail for that, many peole read it.

>>2588180
read upthread, the arrest was for planning a terrorist act which is what any government would do, and should do if it wants to preserve its power >>2587131

>>2588180
No it’s complete bollocks because I went to a bookshop on Arbatskaya in central Moscow about 6 years ago and the first thing you have to notice is the rather large collection of Stalin themed calendars, although they were competing with the number of Putin calendars, I’ll grant you.

>>2588185
>>2588186
Oh, I see, thank you. I'm scared that the right wing might rise in Russia and ban communism.

>>2588189
>the right wing might rise in Russia
i'm sorry, you're a few years decades too late to be worrying about that…
>ban communism
i don't think any kind of communist/socialist symbolism will get outright banned, mostly because right now it makes nato/nato-aligned westoids seethe so much, case in point being any imagery/invocation of stalin
can't speak on any kind of organization however, all i can say is that the CPRF does not deserve as much hate as it gets

>>2588193
>>2588194

I don't like CPRF, to me they betrayed the idea of communism and follow so callled red Putinism. And i don't like how Russia uses communist symbolism, because it will be later on hard to explain to Ukranians why communism is good.

>>2588196
Ukrainians did not need a reason to hate communist symbols especially western Ukrainians


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