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>>2599921Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet Reminder: Both Zhoran and Trump admit that they agree on most issues. The only substantial difference between them is the precise identity of who they think should benefit from American Imperialism.
>>2600938Are you saying Zhoran is a liar?
I would agree with you, of course, but I don't think that's what you're trying to say.
>>2600935>ou will not find soldiers willing to join you,In that case stfu about armed uprising. You will only end up sending easily manipulable and unstable youth to their graves without any chance of success.
Fuck your vibes-adventurism. Fuck your Yee-Haw Cowboy fantasies.
>>2600942>ZhoranRespect the man's name, it is ZIORAN.
>>2600943No, it must be done. There is simply no other way.
>>2600947How then, you stupid fucking parrakeet? How?
>>2600935>What is the benefit of trying to reform the CPUSA from within? They are a moribund organization and a totally irrelevant caucus of the Democratic party that sells out what little credibility they have for absolutely no benefit. They have very few members, no resources of note and no power.Wrong. Cpusa has tens of millions in assets
>>2600949I'm going to start the
Laborer's Anti-Revisionist Party LARP >>2600948We can strike the beast where it's weakest. No foreign enemy has ever been able to hit the enemy where we can.
The very nature of Capitalism has left the military very reliant on single source contractors for most of their weapons and ammunition. With a single strike, you could starve the enemy of their most precious resources. You could ground their airplanes, drain their tanks and keep their ships in port. The goal, at first, is not to destroy the government, or even to really cause it significant damage, it's to demonstrate a capability to fight in a new way, to sustain a new level of struggle and to demonstrate, in simple terms, that there are people willing and able to do something about it. Your strategy should be to force the US military to turn it's gaze inwards, to withdraw from the world and bring it's forces home to fight an internal war.
Only then can we even BEGIN to start organizing in earnest. As Lenin clearly said, you cannot have a revolution without a crisis. Lacking that crisis, we must become it. We must be the crisis which brings about the end of Imperialism.
This is almost impossibly difficult to do, and it will require an enormous level of sacrifice that the frankly pathetic American "left" has never shown a willingness for, but it is the only option. All other possible outcomes are either too little, too late, or both.
>>2600959Why would American workers want to do any of this, which is effectively asking them to commit suicide?
>>2600956Cringe Northeastern coast coded toilet paper
Friendly reminder that if you replace the word "revisionist" with "doesn't agree with me", 99% of the time it doesn't change the meaning of what they're saying at all
>>2600964t. a treat-loving revi
zionist >>2600971Poltards think Horkheimer and Adorno were communists lmao
>>2600961They won't, not at first. The vast majority of them are reactionaries due both to material issues (Over 60 million Americans directly benefit from Imperialism, many more indirectly) or due to their education and cultural backgrounds.
This is, I repeat, why you need a crisis. The vast majority of the people are not drawn into politics. They have no interest in learning anything that we can teach them, because they have no reason to. Only a crisis can change that, when people believe that politics is a life and death struggle rather than a constant hum in the background or an annoying bureaucracy.
Who, or what, will provide that crisis? Waiting for climate change is too late, by then we're all fucked. So, we have to do this within our lifetimes. We have to manufacture a crisis which draws the vast masses into politics so we can organize them. There is no other way I can see how this can be done quickly enough. We must force the issue, or nothing we do will ever matter again.
I think my workplace is full of Trump supporters. At least management and supervision are. This may make unionizing more difficult.
>>2600973>manufacture an accelerationist crisis and make your already shitty life a living hell so that petty bourgeois and labor aristocrats get proletarianized and start caring about imperialism instead of being narcissistic nihilistic reactionary nincompoops… wouldn't that more likely result in the petty booj and labor aristos embracing fascism to restore their lost treats (which we're already seeing)
wouldn't that cause the genuine US proletariat to become homeless/criminal/lumpen as the downward mobility which effects the petty booj and labor aristos effects them even more?
wouldn't the bourgeois state just respond to a crisis by doubling down on the prison and surveillance state?
what worked for spear of the nation will not necessarily work here. You are fond of comparing 1960s South Africa with 2025 USA. While there are important things in common, I don't think the analogy is that strong.
>>2600976demo
blyats and re
cykalicans are both union busters homie
>>2600977The issue with using the SA example is not the size of the country. It is the fact that 80% of the country were second class citizens subservient to a minority. That creates a will to fight. Black south africans were not attracted to communism per se, but to anti-apartheidism. Had a Christian Black Nationalist movement led the anti-apartheid struggle, they would have followed it.
American workers can bitch and larp as an oppressed all they want, they have good lives. Too good to revolt and risk pissing away everything.
>>2600982my argument in my post wasn't about the size at all, I just used the picture as emphasis that there are also geographical and demographical differences, including the very important ones you mentioned.
>>2600981Yeaj I did link this two threads ago when morons were calling me Uncle Tom for not falling for their sentimental 'colonialism is the great original sin and gave Mhlungu everything'. The reply was 'Cockshott is talking about slavery in the video and not colonialism'. Classic American Liberal Arts pedantry. Well now Cockshott has explicitly mentioned colonialism. I wonder what the Fred Hampton Cocksuckers have to say now.
>The U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration records the Arctic's warmest year since measurements began, with average temperatures from October 2024 to September 2025 standing standing 1.60 °C (2.88 °F) above the 1991–2020 baseline.
>>2600977
>wouldn't that more likely result in the petty booj and labor aristos embracing fascism to restore their lost treats (which we're already seeing)The petty bourgeoisie were ALWAYS going to embrace fascism, that is their role in history. The rank and file of every fascist movement in the history of the world has been the petty bourgeoisie.
>wouldn't that cause the genuine US proletariat to become homeless/criminal/lumpen as the downward mobility which effects the petty booj and labor aristos effects them even more? Yes, and more importantly it would make them desperate and angry in large numbers, two necessary ingredients for a revolution.
>wouldn't the bourgeois state just respond to a crisis by doubling down on the prison and surveillance state? Yes, and we would respond to this by escalating the war against them, now bolstered with a mass movement of new recruits.
>>2600987well we've reached the tipping point, and only
mass international abandonment of fossil fuels and mass international adoption of renewables and nuclear power GLOBAL REVOLUTION WHICH WILL BE A MASSIVELY POLLUTING EVENT OF GLOBAL MILITARY EXPENDITURE will save us. :^)
>>2600982we need to revert back to slavery but not in a racist way and just try it all over again.
>>2600993The Eco-Wrecker back at it.
Greens and ecologists are enemies of communists.
They only serve to demoralise communists and maintain the status quo.
Total Tree-Hugger Death.
>>2600988>Yes, and more importantly it would make them desperate and angry in large numbers, two necessary ingredients for a revolution. I don't think homeless hungry fentanyl-addicted alcohol-addicted disarmed non-unionized proles exposed to 110 degree summers fight better than sheltered unionized armed sober proles with full bellies but what do I know, I'm an idiot.
>>2600978I'm not talking about politicians I'm talking about average workers.
>>2600982Things are far from perfect and only trending downwards. There are places in the USA without clean drinking water. Maybe armed rebellion is currently off the table but people want change.
>>2600997wait you're the retard who said nuclear winter and billions of deaths would be a small price to pay if it put the american empire out of commission, even though it's already declining anyway. maybe you're a larper who shouldn't be taken seriously… sounds like you're a climate denier as well. How am I a "tree hugger" when tree hugger liberals fight mass adoption of nuclear, and even sometimes complain about solar plants "polluting?" They're delusional ultras on the environmental question.
A trillion billion sacrifices are required for world communism. Trotsky would agree with me.
>>2600997it's ok bro. global revolution in a week. I'll be put to death by the cadres for my insane liberal ideology of believing
checks notes global war makes climate change worse
in reality we're going to get global bourgeois war before we get global proletarian revolution anyway, so neither of us are getting what we want and we're just arguing in the waiting room of the apocalypse >>2600999>the people want changePeople always want change (for the better) everywhere. What matters is are they willing to DO something for it, and if yes, how much are they willing to risk in the process.
Even the lead-water gulping, microplastic-shitting American creature will not do shit. He will have a bud lite and live another day.
>>2600998People living in conditions like that are usually the only ones willing to fight a revolution at all. How bad do you think things were for Russian workers during WW1, dying by the fucking millions on the front lines of a war that seemed both endless and pointless? What about Chinese peasants during the century of humiliation and warlord era? They endured hardships you can't even imagine, and even then it took a severe crisis for either of them to embrace revolution.
>>2601006I'm having a modelo right now actually. Cheers, chagos poster
>>2601001A few nuclear powerplant accidents in America which harms America is not 'nuclear winter' lmao. Actually read about the dangers of nuclear shit and do not just stay stuck in your 1980s hollywood nuke hysteria.
Again, liberal arts people must be exterminated. Stop thinking qualitatively and start thinking quantitatively. You will understand then every puff of smoke is not the Armageddon.
We actually missed a golden opportunity during the Gaza protests. A Communist Party worthy of the name would have been organizing a campaign of sabotage against arms factories producing supplies for the Zionist entity, which would have had real, tangible effects on their ability to wage war.
The resistance begged us to do this, over and over again, and yet we did not.
Why?
>>2601008Cheers and make sure to throw the can on the street in front of a climate-change cultist.
>>2601007>People living in conditions like that are usually the only ones willing to fight a revolution at all. How bad do you think things were for Russian workers during WW1, dying by the fucking millions on the front lines of a war that seemed both endless and pointless? What about Chinese peasants during the century of humiliation and warlord era? They endured hardships you can't even imagine, and even then it took a severe crisis for either of them to embrace revolution.Yes, I have long noticed that the main contradiction is that "you have to make things worse in order to make people willing to make things better" but if you say that out loud, the people won't flock to you after "the crisis" you are advocating manufacturing, because they'll remember you were the one loudly calling for it. Communists (professional revolutionaries, who are often not even proletarian, look at Lenin, Marx, Engels, Mao, none of them were proles, they were petty bourgeois, bourgeois, and peasant) have to balance promising the proles a better world, and making the bourgeois world worse in order to engineer a crisis that kickstarts revolution. But if you keep saying the quiet part loud "We need to make things worse for these treatlers so they get up off their ass and die for glorious proletarian revolution" they will not actually do it when the crisis comes because they will REMEMBER you calling for their lives to be worse, and they will flock to the "Nation First" petty bourgeois demagogues, i.e. the fascists.
>>2601012Because Kayleigh and Matthew would rather wank over Calla Walsh, rename their shitty hall 'Hind Rajab' and graduate with honours at the end of the year and go into corporate jobs.
I'd love to work at a nuclear power plant.
>>2601019Pull the fucking rods up, Dyatlov, or your mother is a whore.
>>2601020I'd never be able to do that. I'd just be the janitor.
I hate Chernobyl because it will forever be the number 1 uneducated anti-communist talking point. That and the Khmer Rouge. Corruption in the planned economy is why people refused to accept the fission reactor at Chernobyl was flawed, not communist state brainwashing.
>>2601022I enjoyed the HBO series but it was not the gospel. It was not a documentary.
Stay mad. Accidents happen, people die. The Party keeps calm and carries on. The Wheel of History moves forward.
>>2601023>The Party keeps calm and carries onIt was one of the reasons the party died, anon.
>>2601015No Communist Party has ever had to manufacture a crisis before, they've only ever taken advantage of crises inherent to the function of the state, or and most often, crises from without, generally invasion or a sudden, severe military defeat.
There are two problems. First, America is insulated by two gigantic oceans and maintains naval hegemony, which makes the country virtually impossible to invade. There will be no Kaiser nor will there be a Boxer intervention. Secondly, we don't have time to wait for that. We maybe have 50 years in which it's possible to save the planet.
>>2601018If you are not prepared to endure prison you are simply unfit to call yourself a revolutionary. It is that simple. Every great revolutionary has been arrested, many of them multiple times. There will ALWAYS be repression. Your job is to endure it and use it as an opportunity to organize. In prison, you will find your soldiers for the upcoming revolution. In prison, you will find the people who have truly felt the teeth of the system, and who hate it enough to fight back.
The most active professional revolutionaries, the vanguard, have historically been relatively privileged. Look at the central committee of the Bolsheviks. Even in 1917, these were educated people. Zherzhinsky, Lenin, Trotsky and Sverdlov were all from petty bourgeois backgrounds. Even Stalin, who was the most proletarian among them, was put in seminary school, which exposed him to an education most people of his background didn't get (even if it was a clerical reactionary education that he had to eventually escape). Castro was a lawyer and son of a plantation owner. Mao was a prosperous middle peasant. The proles are the ones getting shot at during the revolution, but not the ones organizing the vanguard party, sitting in meetings, wearing suits, and centrally planning the economy after the revolution is successful. Gotta be real about that. This is why so many Communist parties become revisionist. Because ultimately they are managed by a highly literate professional managerial class with academic tendencies, even if the rank and file is supposed to be reserveless, propertyless, immiserated, surplus-value-producing, subsistence-wage-earners who work in commodity production. At the bottom of a communist party you have these workers who don't even have time to read between their 12 hour shifts and their 3 kids and rent being due and being 3 years behind on needing dental work, and at the top you have these childless academics from petty bourgeois backgrounds who wear suits and have the time to read the entire Marx-Engels collected works (50 volumes) and Lenin collected works (30 volumes) and still have time to attend meetings where they call each other revisionist and accuse each other of not understanding the theory which is supposed to be "easy" and "accessible" to workers who are deprived of sleep, education, free time, and health care (lol) .
>>2601024The anti-nuke hysteria is spearheaded by the fossil fuel tyrants. Accidents happen, we learn from them. The Engineer is a Mountain, he knows shit can blow up and he will die in an instant. He is not a delicate flower like the Liberal Art nerd who will cry if he clips a nail.
You say corruption fucked up Chernobyl. Ok. Is the Oil Lobby in the USA not one huge corruption machine? Do accidents on oil rigs not happen? Did that discourage people from using oil?
>>2601029I'm saying the accident could have been avoided and people use the accident as proof of communisms mismanagement.
>>2601026>If you are not prepared to endure prison you are simply unfit to call yourself a revolutionary. of course i'm not a revolutionary. i'm telling you i'm a treatler. i already agree with you. i'm a lily-livered liberal, and your cadres will shoot me. so there is no need to pontificate. i am your enemy and you want to shoot me. fine. but listen. you really should consider that lenin had it relatively easy. when he plots against the state, he gets exiled to a hamlet where he can hunt and write letters. it's easy to escape. we get sent to the slavery rape dungeon. and on top of that we're all treatlers with no incentive to do anything. your analysis is spot on. we aren't going to blow up missiles and go to the slavery-rape dungeon because we're evil and selfish. It's true!
>>2601027It is revolutionary to wish for a couple of Nuclear accidents in America. The closer to NYC and Los Angeles, the better. Sorry Mexico, the tumor rate will go up a bit but you gotta show some solidarity for the greater good.
>>2601030Yeah and people think solar and wind can provide all our energy demands. People think many things.
That just means people are retarded.
>>2601034The irony with most green parties is they want to replace scummy oil businesses with scummy solar panel and wind turbine businesses.
>>2601034>Yeah and people think solar and wind can provide all our energy demands.nobody ITT said that. We obviously need a combination of solar, nuclear, and wind to wane our dependence on fossil fuels. There is no reason to
not use the trillions of free photons that rain down on our planet every second to provide electrical power.
>>2601032Ohhhh poor you. You are so oppressed. Treatler Lenin had it easy. He had that Chuvash-privilege card. But you, poor American, you are the most oppressed nation in history. I will ask Afghan and Sudanese treatlers to donate some funds to ease your suffering. Who knows, some Afghan attention whores can even adopt some american babies and parade them on their Instagram account.
>>2601036>replace scummy oil businesses with scummy solar panel and wind turbine businesses.hot take: nuclear, solar, and wind are objectively lesser evils compared to fossil fuels.
>>2601038>i literally agree with felix that i'm a privileged treatler who should be shot>the pontification continues anywayif someone agrees with you maybe it's time to move on and say something new, no?
>>2601037France got it right with 70% nuclear.
There is no reason America cannot go 70% nuclear with the remaining 20% split between solar, wind, geothermal etc, and 10% you can keep as fossil fuel just as a safety backup measure.
>>2601040Okay dude. When local councils have to pay extortionate prices for things that shouldn't cost too much to produce, which affects more working people than an oil rig in the ocean and hires less people, I'll remember it was a worse evil.
>>2601041That is not how it works. The show must go on. Have you never watched WWE?
>>2601036Total Green Death.
Anybody who follows the Green Parties of France and Germany knows that these animals must be hung on lamposts in public squares.
>>2601043ok enjoy total food supply collapse because of climate change lol. i'm sure you guys will blame the people who tried to warn you after it's all over anyway
>>2601045>nuclear, solar, and wind are lesser evils compared to fossil fuels<YOU ARE GREEN PARTY TREE HUGGER!!!! I JUST KNOW IT!!!!! TOTAL ECO DEATH!!!!lol
>>2601046Psychosis, fear-mongefing, sentimentalism, demoralisation. All in the name of wrecking any real movement.
Total Green Death.
>>2601048Refer to
>>2601042Thank you for your attention to this matter!
>>2601049don't worry. you'll get what you want. billions will die from climate change and you'll have a "proletarian" revolution in post apocalyptic conditions that aren't even fit to be called semi feudal, and only "post-capitalist" in the most ironic and tragic sense.
>>2601050Just live in the midwest and you will be fine.
My war is on the East and West coast.
The Coastal Rats will die. The Mountain Monkeys will inherit everything.
Death to Hollywood
Glory to Appalachia
>>2601053people along the gulf coast are breathing a huge sigh of relief
>>2601052Boo hoo boo hoo there is a climate change ghost behind my curtain boo hoo
Sacrifice your interests to the great climate God and the ghost will vanish booooo hooooooo
>>2601058>Texas is ascendant and the coasts are falling into the trash.Florida is coastal and also ascendant. It's because the most reactionary states are being rewarded. lol
>>2601059Yeah, I was about to say, North Carolina is also ascendant. The South is rising again. All the liberal states really are shitholes no lie. Maybe not New England, I don't know.
>>2601043>think about muh oil rig jobsyou will be fired from your oil rig job and put to work in a nuclear power plant, or manufacturing solar panels and wind turbines. thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>2601060New England is stagnating but not declining necessarily. Depends on which state you talk about.
>>2601058Good for Texas. The extreme religiosity and conservatism aside, Texans do not fall for climate hysteria. Yeah, the planet is warming up. Texas was already hot, it's getting hotter. So we'll just walk more naked and get more tanned. Not gonna bitch and moan like the Northeastern libtard snowflakes. If in 100 years there are finally American Bolsheviks, they will not be Californian Cucks or New York Degenrates. No. They will be from Texas, the Great Hispanic Australians of the Western Hemisphere.
>>2601060Based. The Hispanic South will crush the Anglo North. The Ivy Leagues will be burned down and Soyanglos will seethe "muh library of baghdad, le ebil mongolzz" for centuries.
>>2601066>sunny states install more panelsshocking
In 100 years climate change will sink florida.
Maybe humanity will go extinct, but that is a price worth paying to see fl*rida gone
>>2601065I think it's like you said, liberal arts education ruined generations of young Americans. These people in California live in a fantasy reality. They are incapable of doing anything but some pomo wankery and sitting around huffing their own farts.
>>2601066>Texas is installing more wind and solar than anywhere.they kinda have to because their existing electrical grid is dogshit and totally failed during the polar vortex a few years back
>>2601066And that is good.
I am not against renewables. I do not deny climate change.
I am against the antiscientific demoralising psychotics who attack the issue from a sentimental perspective and suck the joy out of the atmosphere.
Higher and better, Great Texans!
One Californian impaled on every Wind Rotor!
>>2601068They aren't building anything in the fucking blue states is the problem. They are paralyzed by being pussies. It takes them decades to build anything if it ever gets built at all. They can't even keep the place clean.
>>2601066>Texas is installing more wind and solar than anywhere.West Texas is really windy. Also smells like cowshit. The orange clusters are wind turbine farms.
>>2601072>One Californian impaled on every Wind Rotor!I've actually seen a silhouette decal on the back of a pickup truck of a wind turbine with a stripper dancing on it like it's a stripper pole. Wind energy = not just for coastal sissies anymore. Actually a little example of the superstructure rearranging to fit changes in the economic base.
>>2601070i think the anti-intellectuals are also bad. they want to go back to having kids die or live out their lives in an iron lung because of polio to own the educated
>>2601073>the country as a whole deindustrialized and outsourced manufacturing<it's just a muh blue states problemmaybe?
>>2601067I really don't think the majority of the posters here are representative of communists as a whole.
>>2601044WWE plots actually get resolved
America deindustrialised because it is cheaper to import now than to harvest resources or manufacture domestically. This is the same with most major capitalist economies. Why do you think America is pressuring countries like China and South Korea to build more ships? Because unlike Americas shipbuilding capabilities, which have dwindled massive, Japan and South Korea still has an industry to exploit to try and compete with Chinese shipping and naval domination.
>>2601079No one attacked the intellectuals. We attacked the Liberal Arts Pseudo-Education. Liberal Arts cockroaches are the opposite of intellectuals. And oh, how smug they are! Snobby smug cucks!
All power to STEM gods.
>>2601080Maybe try leaving your shithole for once and you'd see the difference.
>>2601067Giving a shit about climate =/= demoralise class struggle because muh blanett wil bun
>>2601081yeah, maybe its time to unironically touch grass
why do image boards attract schizos.
>>2601091Why don't you tell us?
>>2601088It most certainly is.
Let's commit to doing more work in the real world.
>>2601093I am unironically planning to just leave this site, at this point. So yes
>>2601095How long have you been planning that?
>>2601100I will escape this site. I wont come back. It wont chain me
>>2601102This website is just the place some of us go to let our subconscious simmer before we start something new. It's like playing minesweeper just to reset your brain when you get writer's block. I'll still be around here for a while I can tell, but I feel my perspective pivoting a bit from all the cud I've been chewing while posting here this last month or so.
>>2601105Literally Plato's cave. If they did return, no one would believe them anyways.
>>2601107In my honest opinion, I guess one of two things. You either stop caring about talking any of the kind of shit we talk about here, or you find enough IRL friends to talk about this kind of shit that you can just replace the anons with them. My dad talks to his friends all the time and doesn't use social media and he said like 80-90% of what they talk about is politics. Most of my IRL friends have no interest in discussing politics or especially from the angle we do.
I asked my one friend/coworker, what he thought about the future of this country and he had a very poetic answer:
>I don't, I just worry about my future.I wish I could permanently reach there myself.
>>2601114This is begging for leninhat speech
Marvin gaye btfo
>>2601114You have neither the elegance of being an Uyghur, nor the courage of being a Yahood.
No one will remember you.
>>2601139>Why did you delete your post Chagos? Or was it the mods? Anyways thanks for explaining. I was really confused.>>2601120His post said this was referencing this song:
https://genius.com/Jacques-brel-voir-un-ami-pleurer-lyrics >>2601139President Donald Trump is sending a drone to your location as we speak.
Prepare to be vaporized domestic terrorist.
I can't imagine anything would happen to you, and certainly nothing major. My African aunty gave a beautiful polemic yesterday at dinner. I'm paraphrasing in a fitting style for this board:
>Fuck Black is beautiful, White is beautiful, Yellow is beautiful. No! People are beautiful!
She was a Marxist guerilla too. A soldier.
>>2601143Learn Felix, learn! Old Lady was a guerrila and still has time to be an aunt, and you're still LARPing.
>>2601144The fuck are you talking about? How is Felix going to have an African aunty? He is white as the driven snow.
>>2601145Where there is a will, there is a way.
give everyone an african aunty
>>2601144>>2601145I'm sorry, I read the learn Felix learn as directed at me.
But yeah, had dinner with my father and two of his comrades, as they just said: "We all met in the field." That's how they say
>>2601151Were they speaking in English or Amharic?
I fucking hate samsung phone keyboard
Wvery senetence i make a mistake
Fuck chaebol samsung
I should have chosen communist xiami
Fuck south korea j hate you and your gay kpop
>U.S. NOVEMBER JOBLESS RATE HITS 4.6%, HIGHEST SINCE 2021
>>2601152>Were they speaking in English or Amharic?I could only understand the parts they said in English which is most of it. But yes, they speak in English for me and their daughter. Might as well continue doxxing myself, we were also talking about the point that none of us 2nd gen immigrants speak Amharic because none of them taught it to us. I think because none of them considered it important maybe, but in retrospect, the more languages the merrier. Their son married a Mexican woman, and aunty was saying how she speaks in Spanish to the grandkids all the time.
When they speak to each other it's all in Amharic but it's funny how they toss in English words all the time. All I can hear is unintelligible to me but then an English word comes in every now and then and I can tell the topic.
>>2601172Like you don't know how African women are like. Make the food, serve the food, bring you your drink. The second you finish your drink, "can I get you another." All that. Collect the dishes, do the dishes. My aunties when they come to our house, they want to do the dishes from supper. It's always that game of, no you, stop that, this isn't your house, stop trying to do the dishes.
Kendrick Lamar is the most overrated whiny bitch ass rapper of all time. The only thing worse than Kendrick is his fans.
>>2601174The men too, everyone is very proactive, about their end of the domestic chores. Feminism builds up a weird ass battle about who is doing more and all that.
>>2601070> liberal arts educationI mean, sociologists probably know all this on some level. The problem is the ideological lens that’s foisted upon everyone.
>>2601176I never liked him. I don't think I ever hated him, but I never like him. I do like him trying to bring back the after school special element to rap, but I don't think he did it well. He's almost like a caricature of the quintessential backpack rapper. He's very whiny and melodramatic as you say, meanwhile he is doing collabs with rappers like Schoolboy Q who is a loud and proud gangbang kill uyghurs rapper. And I actually like Schoolboy Q(as a guilty kind of pleasure like all the gangster rappers I am a fan of but he is a way better artist.)
My fave backpack rappers, don't know if you could say they all fit that category:
>A Tribe Called Quest>Digable PlanetsKinda gangster rap mixed with backpack:
>Ded Prezbut I don't really dig their gangster rap crime fantasy shit so much. I felt it kind of undid their message.
>Ultramagnetic MCsDon't know if they are really backpack, read woke, but they aren't gangster rap. Also put Camp Lo in this category.
I love Gangstarr too, what an ironic name. RIP GURU.
But the top backpack anti-gangster rapper of all time:
>Jeru the Damaja.
>"Yo, are you a pimp, a hustler?">"No I'm not.">"Are you a man, and can you stand alone like a man has to sometimes?">"Yes I can.">"Are you willing, to go out there and save the lives of our children, even if it means losing your own life?">"Yes I am.">"I believe you Jeru, you're ready."I know I missed Rakim, Run DMC, and KRS-One. I haven't gotten into any of them that much, probably KRS the most. So I'm not going to list them. I play the ones I mentioned many many times on repeat. Maybe some KRS songs BLACK COP BLACK COP BLACK COP.
>>2601184Of course I forgot Madlib and J Dilla who I am also huge fans of. Oh also Devin The Dude. It's really funny trying to list every non-gangster rapper because it's really such a relatively short list. I like some Pharcyde but never got into them. I only really listened to Slum Village because of Dilla.
>>2601184>>2601186Never really was that into Talib Kwali, Common, or Yasim Bey(Mos Def) I mostly know these artists because I'm a huge DJ Premier fan. Could name a bunch of other artists who fit the mold you never heard of he recorded with. But of course, he still records with the gangster rappers sooooo….
>>2600632friendly reminder to not fall for it when the moment comes
>>2601160>clean slateTime to fill up the list boys
>>2601191World history has shown that the Lard 'proletariat' will never do anything. If and when the collapse of American capitalism occurs, it is infinitely more probable to see a Mad Max situation establish itself rather than the Lard 'proletariat' gaining consciousness of itself and fight for power.
ayayay. I have no idea how my deletion password just shows up as censored and I didn't put anything in that field but now I did.
I'ma try saying again. There is no fucking way you are going to win trying to shoot it out with the government, police, armed forces, whatever. Felix and all his CCWs will never amount to anything. You will never get your successful shootout leading to overthrow of the government. You will never even get to RAF tier. The only thing that matters is that the majority of people in this country agree on a direction. Even if you got the majority of people in this country to want to participate in this shootout, you would never win. We have a democratic process. Use it you dumb motherfuckers.
>>2601207>Could the minority of the population serving in the military exterminate the majority of the population?Read a fucking book. They can do anything. You are not going to do shit with your small arms. Even if you got more the majority of the country on your side shooting it out with your rugers.
Just fucking vooot dumb motherfuckers.
Forget the nuclear warheads, they have superviruses laying in vaults you never heard of lmao.
>>2601196I have my naughty list ready: CPUSAnon, Joe Sims, Ziorat Mamdani, Destiny, Contrapoints, Hasan, Agent Kochinski, BlackRedGuard, Angela Davies, AOC, Ilhan Omar, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Ibram X Kendi, Robin Di Angelo, Ta Nehisi Coates, Judith Butler, Kshama Sawant, Slavoj Zizek, Zarah Sultana, Jean Luc Melenchon, all members of all Green Parties of the world, all Leftcoms, all anarchists.
Bernie Sanders is pardoned on grounds of senility.
I am open to expand the list upon recommendations vetted by the Anti-Treat Council. But recommendations which are rejected will in turn see the recommender being added to the list.
All right-wingers will be given amnesty for past transgressions (but not future transgressions).
You know the US government has had a plan for nuclear annihilation since the cold war about how the whole world gets ashed and then they rise from the ashes right? You aren't on the same type of shit they on. They're ready for anything. The only hope is infiltration of the government of the US. They are absolutely prepared to destroy the whole world and your Ruger won't do shit.
Working class is a revolutionary class.
>>2601035Actually, yes. Homeless would be willing to defend their keep they already set up because moving is often detrimental and life ending for them. If they started defending themselves from the state and anti-homeless provocateurs it would get people paying attention that revolution is possible. And if the state goes batshit and starts using military assets on them like the national guard, tanks, through extremely violent force it would signal to the everyone else that even as something as simple as wanting a home or some place to live will never be provided because the state would use horrific violence to prevent it.
You know, as an Amerrican who has made peace with it, like the rest of you have no idea how evil they are or how developed their evil is. They have a lot of ways to destroy the entire world in their hands. AND THEY WILL DO IT. I don't know, we don't know as much as much about recent classified documents and such. But they will. They will fucking do it. I would put noting past them. You think it's a joke. Bro. Broooo. The only hope is to convince them not to.
What confirmed weapons do we have?
>Enough warheads to destroy the world X times over
>Sea of cobalt and whatever radiation poisoning tactics
>Anthrax, whatever list of diseases and supposed germ and viral warfare we are no longer researching as per international agreements if you are dumb enough to blieve them
>>2601251i doubt 30% of americas nukes are even functional
Americans are sleeping.
>>2601257When will Vivek understand that even ‘respectable’ conservatives secretly agree with Groypers on The Indian Question and they are disgusted at the mere sight of his face, name and religion?
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>>2601267Yeah, post quality is about to go up aftter like 4 hours huh
>>2601264Scare-merchants think a nuclear accident on American territory will lead to nuclear winter worldwide.
Scare merchants are reactionaries.
>>2601256I’m awake, and I think Chagos should be banned
>>2600974This has always been the standard marxist understanding thovgh. Not sure what you're vindicating
>>2601273On what grounds?
>>2601257Not sure why but it's always funny to me how freudian conservative talking points usually are
>>2601276Where is the hammer and sickle? You are not a real chagos poster
>>2601274Yes, this is standard Maxism, not understood by some sentimental idiots 2 threads ago, calling me Uncle Tom.
>>2600974All of you namefags deserve to be drawn and quartered just for the crime of being annoying, asinine little attention whores who cannot help but wreck every thread they touch
>>2601276On the grounds of you. Ban the entire country.
>>2601282I will leave you guessing yankee boy
>>2601285Yes I know you are a nazi
Mods, permaban all named posters!
>>2601284Marxist facts do not care about your feelings
>>2601260him and d'souza probbly have enough money they can just cash out one day and pack their bags
>>2601288You don’t know fucking shit. Why don’t you go bother the British instead and piss off?
>>2601292Yes yes become angry
Seethe
>>2601298Maybe you should understand Marx.
>>2601296That isn’t anger. That’s minor annoyance at best. But seriously, I asked a question. Why aren’t you pissing off to the British and bothering them?
>>2601302You will be haunted by your crimes, American creature. You will not deflect.
>>2601303>You will be haunted by your crimes, American creature. You will not deflect.I reject the premise of this statement and will simply tell you to go eat shit.
>>2601306Please deregulate everything, specially nuclear power plants
Please please ron paul
>>2601309Why are you praying to Ron Paul?
>>2601309Ron Paul hasn't been relevant in like 20 years
>>2601311Did the leaded water turn you into a complete retard?
>>2601310>freedom friesYou're welcome.
>>2601310That shit is global, propgandized fool
>>2601313No, but anonymity on the internet has certainly turned you into a sour tool
>>2601314Are you from the fake country Belgium? If not, I do not thank you.
>>2601315I am very sorry to have annoyed your chauvinist feelings.
>>2601317>chauvinistProjection much?
>>2601300What did Marx mean by this Chagos Poster?
<The discovery of gold and silver in America, the extirpation, enslavement and entombment in mines of the aboriginal population, the beginning of the conquest and looting of the East Indies, the turning of Africa into a warren for the commercial hunting of black-skins, signalised the rosy dawn of the era of capitalist production. These idyllic proceedings are the chief momenta of primitive accumulation. On their heels treads the commercial war of the European nations, with the globe for a theatre. It begins with the revolt of the Netherlands from Spain, assumes giant dimensions in England’s Anti-Jacobin War, and is still going on in the opium wars against China, &c.Since you understand him so well
>>2601316>fake countryas opposed to all those legitimate real countries out there lol
>>2601322Marx is clearly showing how ‘the completion of the globe’ is linked to the birth and growth of capitalism. In no way does he affirm that colonisation gave birth to capitalism. The infant capitalism encouraged more foreign ventures, the development in these ventures happened in a way which was symbiotic with the growing capitalism up to the point where these foreign ventures developed into full-fledged colonialism.
It is a mistake to think colonialism is whenever a whiteboi sailed the seas.
>Donald Trump orders a blockade on oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela.
The embargo has begun.
>>2601328Amerika is neocolonial racist apartheid state founded predicated on genocide and occupation of Turtle Island. Amerika is therefore a fake nation with fake kulture fake kommunity. Amerika meets zero criteria lenin outline in regard to self-determination. The presently occupied Afrikan and Aztlán endo-colonies are the only legitimate nation here
>muh fake nations
>muh real nations
>>2601341erm actually the only real country that exists is the proud republic of singapore
>>2601330>In no way does he affirm that colonisation gave birth to capitalismCmon man he says it right there lol
<signalised the rosy dawn of the era of capitalist production. These idyllic proceedings are the chief momenta of primitive accumulationor do you not consider "discovery of gold and silver in America, the extirpation, enslavement and entombment in mines of the aboriginal population, the beginning of the conquest and looting of the East Indies, the turning of Africa into a warren for the commercial hunting of black-skins" to be part of colonialism/colonization? What's with the cope about him meaning the opposite of what he said?
>It is a mistake to think colonialism is whenever a whiteboi sailed the seas.You don't think it's precisely colonialism and transatlantic slavery that birthed whiteness in the first place? How did it come about in your opinion then?
>>2601330you're a retard who should kill himself
>>2601344How about you read the chapters that preceded the one you're citing
>>2601341There are no nations that deserve self-determination actually
>>2601353They are so tiresome, they keep going in circles.
I am curious though, why do so many people want capitalism to be born from colonialism so badly?
What’s the obsession?
>>2601356Presumably it has something to do with american race politics, J. Sakai, and/or feelings of collective guilt
>>2601353Lol how about you formulate an argument? The previous chapter talks about an just an element of primitive accumulation, which nobody denies the enclosure of the commons is. Nothing about the proletarianization of the peasants and whatnot discounts what Im saying.
<These idyllic proceedings are the chief momenta of primitive accumulation. Does Marx say that in reference to colonial proceedings or not? Does Marx say these proceedings signal the dawn of the capitalist era or not?
>>2601356Not even an attempt at an argument then? Just "you made me tired :("? I expected better of you chagos poster
>>2601377He is saying that it signal the dawm of capitalist ERA. that is, of global capitalism, of capitalism as a dominant mode of production on the whole globe.
Crapitalism was born in yurop and colonialism and primitive accumulation made it globally dominant mode of production, yeah?
So, colonialism didnt give birth to capitalism but it made it a globally dominant mode of production is what am guessing.
>>2601380Which is exactly what we mean when we say colonialism birthed capitalism, as in, the currently dominant global mode of production. Im glad you conceded the argument without too much coping anon
>>2601377The argument has already been formulated in the article by Vivek Chibber you're arguing about:
>To begin with, I think Marx made a rhetorical error when he indulged Smith even to the point of saying that it wasn’t frugality that gave you the original accumulation, but plunder. Because that’s just a kind of a side note in the chapter. But people have fixed their sights on this rhetorical device and used it to justify exactly the argument he was trying to falsify, and spent the next five chapters doing so.
>The core of what Marx is saying is that, first of all, there was no shortage of savings within feudalism. In other words, there was no shortage of lots of investable funds in feudalism. How do we know that? Well, because the feudal nobility, the aristocracy, the people who had all the money and the power, were filthy rich. If they had wanted to deploy that money in a profit-maximizing way, which is what capitalists do, they would have done it long ago.
>Furthermore, plunder and colonial expansion were endemic to Europe for a thousand years before capitalism came around. So, if what it took to get to capitalism was some kind of original accumulation of money — even through plunder — you would have had capitalism a thousand years prior.
>The key is to remember that there was never any shortage of investable funds within feudalism. So, even if it is the case that lots of new silver and gold is coming through colonialism, it doesn’t alter the fact that whatever money you have, you’re going use it in a way that’s sensible by whatever economic rules there are in your system.
>And because feudalism was a system in which the most sensible thing to do with your money was to use it toward nonproductive, non-profit-maximizing ends, regardless of whether you were the peasantry or the nobility, whatever money you had would be deployed in that particular feudalistic way.
>Now, the fact of the matter is that in the fourteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth centuries, the two European countries that had the largest empires were Spain and Portugal. And those empires were explicitly created to bring lots and lots of treasure from the New World to the Old World.
>This treasure is exactly what Smith is talking about. It’s enormous hoardings of wealth. And if Smith was right that you needed to first have this original accumulation of wealth, Spain and Portugal ought to have had the first transitions to capitalism. They should have gone from being feudal monarchies to being capitalist economies and the fastest growing economies in Europe. What happened in fact was that this treasure, as it came into these countries, did nothing to bring about a change in the economic system. In fact, what it did was it pushed these two countries into about 150 years of economic stagnation.
<Where you did have a change to a new economic structure was in the country where there was virtually no empire, which was England. And let’s get our dates right. England moves toward a new economic structure that had not been seen in the world before, which we call capitalism, starting in the mid- to late 1400s. So that by about 1550 or 1560, you’ve essentially got a truly capitalist economy. This is about a hundred years before England has any kind of real empire at all.
<So, the countries with the largest empires and the largest inflows of treasure — colonial extraction, you can call it — experienced no change to a new economic system. The country that did experience a change to a new economic system is the one that didn’t have an empire.
>So if the question is “What role do treasure and plunder play in the rise of capitalism?” then the argument that treasure and plunder are what trigger it can’t even get off the ground, because the countries where it should have happened — if the argument were correct — are the countries where it didn’t happen. And where it does happen is in a country where you don’t have this kind of plunder. And that’s England.
>Now, this is just the empirical record. The theoretical problem is this: You have to explain what would make a feudal landlord or a monarch who’s suddenly endowed with this huge pool of money to change the entire class structure, whether it’s of his feudal holdings if he’s a landlord or, if he’s the monarch, the entire national economic structure itself? What would make them do it in, say, 1550? I’ve never seen a single argument that would explain why they would do that. What they did, in fact, was use it in a way that makes sense for a feudal landlord. Signal as in here comes the global primitive accumulation, the global proletarianization of peasantoids. Yuropeans proletarianized their peasantoids and now they are coming for the rest of the global peasantoids
>>2601386But capitalism is capitalism whether it is dominant or not, no? It is just a mode of production. It doesnt have to be dominant to be a mode of production
When yurop was colonizing there were still feudal places
>>2601376
>Read lenin. Read stalin
Read Marx and mald about it
Dont read. Get all your knowledge from leftypol
>>2601392A pointless distinction. There is not question whether capitalism "has to" be dominant or not to be capitalism. It simply is dominant now and has been for centuries, so when we're talking about capitalism you can assume we're talking about it holistically or do you need me to specify that every time?
Also, merchants created capitalism, btw. Because capitalism is about selling to get more and thats what merchantoids do, yeah?
>>2601396Okay? Now what? All you saying is
>waaah waaah capitalists did primitive accumulation waaaah>waaaah they destroyed muh way of life and brought capitalism waaahAre you some kind of reactionary socialist?
Sorry, but peasantoids and tribesmen will be proletarianized. Even bolsheviks did that
>>2601342Read lenin. Read stalin. All endo-neo-colonized peoples (Afrikan nation, First nations, Aztlán nation, Hawaiiak nation, Puerto Rikan nation, etc.) are nations whose principle directive is to secede from the fake, genocidal entity called "amerika."
Unlike all nations of the oppressed endo-neo-colonies, Amerika is fake nation because it is settler entity to create false unity between the proletarian endo-neo-colonized and the bourgeois neo-colonizers. Amerikan have zero kulture. Kommunity of amerika is simply genocide. Amerikans have no language of their own but genocidal colonial english. Their common territory is all stolen. Their common economic life is genocidal. Amerika is not stable and historically constituted community of people. Amerika meets zero criteria of what constitutes a nation.
>>2601386Maybe you should tell us how the bourgeoisie was born
>>2601387Im not arguing with an article tho anon, Im arguing with you guys. I disagree with this article, but Im not going to comb through it point by point lmao. I find it to be a rather vulgar and lackluster analysis, talking about how it should have been spain and portugal that invented capitalism, when these things are obviously not so simple. Things like the enclosures in Britain were of course still vital, but that doesn't mean that colonialism wasn't required for those enclosures to transform england's mode of production so radically
Can you now address my argument about Marx saying those colonial proceedings are the chief movers of primitive accumulation?
>>2601398Huh? Are you having a stroke? All I was saying is that colonialism birthed capitalism, I didn't make any normative statements
>>2601413Capitalism birthed colonialism.
>>2601402Maybe you should tell me how you have no argument? Oh wait, you just did
>>2601411Chief movers as in motifs of primitive accumulation is profit motive yeah?
>>2601362Sakai isnt racist. Endo-neo-colonized peoples are not a "race." Afrikans are an occupied nation, like all occupied peoples. You can only compute in settler blood quantum
>>2601415Marx seems to disagree
<These idyllic proceedings are the chief momenta of primitive accumulationFeel free to provide an argument against this instead of producing more cope
>>2601421Momenta is plural of momentum. Momentum is when there are two stuffs like point a and point b. So, idylic adventurous travel to find new lands (point a) to then brutal primitive accumulation (point b) or something
>>2601421Marx is being a materialist edgelord here basically
>>2601421Marx is saying "its not all so dandy ya know, all these new discoveries, because peasantoids are going to be proletarianized next". Thats how i understood it
>>2601417No, chief movers as in main drivers, forces, movements, things that push something forward. I didn't make any claims about motives, but nice pivot
Does marx use a lot irony and sarcasm? Also, that anon who keeps saying colonialism caused capitalism is ignoring context of marx's writing isnt he?
>warmer climate = people in the streets more days out of the year = more opportunities for revolution
climate change is ensuring favorable conditions
>>2601411But Marx doesn't say that, is my point. English capitalism precedes its colonialism, other forms of colonialism precede capitalism, and capitalism incentivizes colonialism by giving the ruling classes a reason to expand markets and accumulate capital ad infinitum. I'm not sure how you're missing the point here. The quote you pulled up doesn't run in contradiction to what I'm trying to tell you. Primitive accumulation doesn't need to take place in the first place if the first elements of capitalism don't emerge and give it a reason to continue
>>2601425Yeah so it just means to move something forward, a force/form of movement.
>>2601426So? That's what he was
>>2601429Yeah of course, he's saying these things paved the way for the capitalist era. Glad we agree
>>2601430Well i think main mover of capitalism before porkies discovered that overproduction crisis is a thing was a profit motive
>>2601421These idyllic proceedings being overseas trade, yes. Overseas trade is not necessarily colonialism.
Idyllic proceedings of lucrative overseas trade by merchantoids → primitive accumulation for growing bourgeoisoid → bourgeoisoid acks nobility, aristocracy etc and becomes the big daddy of classes → industrial revolution → birth of (industrial) capitalismoid → birth of colonialismoid → growth of capitalismoid and industryoid → introduction of industryoid in colonyoids → increased rate of exploitationoid in colonoid + exploitationoid of proletarianoid at home → birth of financial capitalismoid + decolonoid ideas by brownoids and blackoids → decolonisationoid + indegenous capitalismoid by brownoid and blackoid bourgeoisoid → present day ass rape by Palantir
Thank you for your attentioid to this matteroid!
>>2601440It didnt pave way for capitalism, it IS capitalism. Its a history, a road, or something. You dont say you getting on a bus is what caused you to go to school. What caused you to go to school was not a bus but your daddys belt
>>2601442 (me)
And now it is "oh shit i cant stop" motive
>>2601436Yeah it's a dialectical relation, Im not saying it was a direct linear thing either anon. Colonialism was primary and fundamental to the rise of capitalism. I guess we're just arguing about what counts as "birthing capitalism" means, but Im talking about capitalism as the global mode of production here
>>2601442Ok I don't care because that's not what we were arguing about
>>2601452Maybe America has progressed
into retardation?
Think about it.
>>2601451It dont matter we are not vanguard. This is just good fun
>>2601445>These idyllic proceedings being overseas trade, yesWhy do you keep twisting things Chagos Poster? Why can't you address the argument head on? Im starting to think you're just acting in bad faith at this point
I already quoted what Marx said in full, "these proceedings" refer to "The discovery of gold and silver in America, the extirpation, enslavement and entombment in mines of the aboriginal population, the beginning of the conquest and looting of the East Indies, the turning of Africa into a warren for the commercial hunting of black-skins" Do you not consider those to be part of colonialism, that's just "Lucrative overseas trade" to you?
>United States president Donald Trump expands the country's existing travel ban by imposing restrictions on citizens of Burkina Faso, Mali, South Sudan, and Syria from entering the country. He also bans people with Palestinian Authority passports from enter the United States
Sorry Palestinians and Syrians, you didn't bend the knee enough.
>>2601466They already announced a blockade on any and all oil coming from Venezeula (rip Cuba)
It's happening.
>>2601447Yeah alright and getting on the bus isn't going to school, it IS school. This is just semantic now. I think we basically agree
>>2601455I am aware anon lol
>>2601471It is not school it is soyciety. And your daddys belt forcing you to participate, so soyciety
>>2601466>So all bets on tonight's announcement being war with Vuvuzela?either that or a boring speech about the state of the economy before the year ends
>>2601475True dat fr fr anon
>affordability crisis
<bidens fault
>nearly 5% unemployment
<bidens fault
>healthcare crisis
<bidens fault
A-10 Thunderbolts are wizzing around Syria looking for an enemy that doesn't exist. Maybe they should have fought about that when they put the salafist in power.
>>2601494Qualitative liberal arts thinking brain rot
The Sun God pisses on you
>>2601494bro you're comparing photosynthesis to supplying energy to 2.3 billion households.
We would need to build a solar farm the size of italy to supply the worlds energy requirements.
>>2601494It is funny that oil is basically millions of years old solar power
>>2601485bourgeoisie's fault
bourgeoisie's fault
bourgeoisie's fault
>>2601504Capitalism's fault, actually
>>2601501That's…actually not that difficult considering the sheer amount of barely inhabited deserts with constant sunlight are certainly bigger than Italy
>>2601494Idealist utopian
>>2601466>Maduro literally stole our land and oilAmericans will actually believe this. Americans will actually wake up, turn on their TVs, which they still watch for some reason, turn on Fox, MSNBC, CNN, whatever slop they watch, and hear this ancient billionaire zionist pedophile capitalist who they elected president tell them that actually Venezuela, the entire country, was just straight stolen from burgers, and they'll start…. clapping!
My god they'll stand at attention in their living rooms and kitchen, and just start clapping.
Some of them will have knives and forks in their hands and they'll just start clapping, even if it means stabbing themselves repeatedly. They won't even bother to put the knife down.
Tears will well up in their soulless burger eyes, and drool will form at the corners of their animal mouths, and they'll just keep clapping. They won't even know what the words coming out of their TV sets mean, but by God, they'll keep clapping. They'll clap all day and all night. They'll stand there clapping until they piss and shit themselves and pass out. And the next day they'll wake up in a puddle of their own piss, shit, blood, tears, drool, and sweat, and they'll know, it's World Police time, and they will head to their nearest recruitment station.
>>2601466>return all the oil and land they stoleTrump is pro-Land Back now
>>2601510>plants do photosynthesis<idealism! utopianism!take a physics class
>>2601516So this is the power of MAGAcommunism
>>2601515Americans will read this and think this is serious genuine earnest no sarcasm
>>2601500word salad with no argument
>>2601501thank china for building over 95% of the planet's solar panels all by themselves. With a little help from the other 204 or so states it would be a trivial task
>>2601502that's true. the caveat is the consequences of using it
>>2601463I will take time to clarify things, formulate a better answer, and get back to you in a few days.
Consider it a win for you in the meanwhile, you fucking autist.
>>2601463>>2601528What are the theoretical le doctrinal stakes here? What will have to be changed in le theory if one or the other is correct or wrong?
Yo. I live in a shit area. How does one live in a shit area and not just start hating poor people? Like, literally every day it's just people running red lights or driving into the oncoming lane to pass someone, six different caged dogs barking and being beaten for hours, everybody is just rude and seems to hate everyone else, there's really nothing going for community involvement here either, aaaaand I kind of just hate the people that live here as a result. I know the official, programmatic response is that they just need to be uplifted by systemic change but honestly how do you … not hate these people? Or is it just okay to hate lumpens? I don't know. I just feel bad about it because I know we're supposed to be helping these people and shit but fuck. I hate living with them. HATE it.It's seriously demoralizing.
vote for me for general secretary of the USSA and I will force America to be cultured. No just via a unifying socialist new culture but by forcing Native Americans to be more Native American and forcing French speaking Louisianans to speak French more etc. etc.
>>2601529Did you ever go outside and talk to a real person? Is it not clear from my post that I was tongue in cheek, that I used 'fucking autist' as almost an endearing term? Are you
that antisocial?
>>2601537>according to tucker carlsonsource?
>>2601538> Is it not clear from my post that I was tongue in cheekI could ask you the same question. "Total Autism Victory" come on brotha.
>>2601517Cry me a river solarpunker. I’m not surprised your statement is a delusional as your world view.
>>2601542what is going on?
>>2601528Lmao, seems unnecessary for what amounts to a pretty straight forward argument. for now I'll just take it as your opinion being that "The discovery of gold and silver in America, the extirpation, enslavement and entombment in mines of the aboriginal population, the beginning of the conquest and looting of the East Indies, the turning of Africa into a warren for the commercial hunting of black-skins" do not count as colonialism until you make a case otherwise. Very disappointing stuff chagos poster, but thanks for conceding the argument with only minimal coping at least
>>2601527Just grab pen, paper and calculator and do the maths.
Solar panels are not magic transformers.
>>2601538kettle, meet pot
>>2601553they increase in efficiency every year, cope. there's no excuse to not fill every single desert with panels and let nuclear reactors sort out the rest.
>>2601530There are no stakes, we are having a discussion about marxism on an anonymous image board
<The backlash against Adams for having accepted the invitation was harsh, revealing a fear that would haunt reactionaries in the United States down the centuries:that foreign policy would be used to restructure domestic policies, that submitting Washington to even the mildest forms for international jurisdiction would impose insufferable constraints. That fear jolted the Age of Jackson into existence.
It sure is a perfect time to read Grandin's America, América.
>>2601561
>no args
exxon is gonna dock your pay if this is the quality of your shilling
>>2601552>unnecessary The difference between us is that I will consider more than a single paragraph, for I am not a Lutheran retard.
>>2601563Also yes for the record I think so-called "international law" is a joke.
>>2601560One of you is a falsifier modernizer
>>2601546We'll file that under "english is not my first language". Merry Christmas and Death to America.
xi jinping please invade the country now time is running out
>>2601530>stakesYour ma's plump posterior
so the USA is gonna do a Gaza style siege on Venezuela? are gonna see a Venezuelan genocide in the next couple of years?
>>2601583the mountainous jungles of vulvza will turn trumps adventure into a second vietnam, it's going to be a huge disaster when bodybags start coming back
>>2601583It will probably be a siege at first. Caracas is hard to assault with conventional military assets because its surrounded by mountains. If Trump is retarded enough to further drive the divide by attacking Venezeula, he will utilise his aircraft carriers to bomb Caracas with airstrikes. If Venezeula refuses to surrender, which it likely will, then Trump has just entered a long bloody mountain war that will harm Americas already limited military surplus and nobody will support except that neoliberal witch woman.
>>2601588why would he put boots on the ground? he's just gonna bomb and drone strike the shit out of it. it's great for him because it creates a demand for military equipment which he can use to justify infrastructure spending in the USA and create jobs for his sociopathic treatler base. all the national socialists, i mean social democrats will go along with it.
>>2601582La France est une nation opprimée. Il est plus dur d'être français que d'être nègre ou juif.
>>2601271>Scare-merchants think a nuclear accident on American territory will lead to nuclear winter worldwide. Chagos poster, I thought you were a smart guy or something. Nuclear winter has nothing to do with meltdowns.
>>2601594 (me)
that plus total naval blockade of course
>>2601537>>2601466>>2601583>>2601588pic related. Venezuela is no pushover.
>>2601595je ne suis parle. I was just saying salut casually. Took a couple years when I was a kid and forgot most of it.
>>2601595lol I just translated it.
Cuba is fucked. It's suffered from the hurricane that ravaged Jamaica and now it has no easy access to Venezuelan crude. Only airlift from China is keeping it from total collapse. They've been through worse, but its clear the Americans are trying to fuck South America and the Caribbean up big time.
>>2601597Maybe this was why the discussion was so confused the other day. I guess I'll TLDR you when you could easily google it in a second. A nuclear winter has to do with the ash cloud kicked up from all the incinerated shit hit by the warheads that will be kicked up into the atmosphere like what killed the dinosaurs with the meteor.
>>2601597>>2601597>Nuclear winter has nothing to do with meltdowns.Yeah that's what I said.
>>2601603I wonder how relations are going to change once the country collapses
>>2601606>Maybe this was why the discussion was so confused the other dayI remember that conversation. There was climate change and nuclear power conversations going on at the same time as nuclear war conversations and people started replying to the wrong anons and it just cascaded into stupidity as a result.
>>2601594>why would he put boots on the ground?because regime change doesn't work without it, obviously. they can drone strike veuvlaza all they want, it does nothing but produce a rally around the flag effect
>because it creates a demandamerica doesn't need to go to war to create demand. they have plenty of demand already, don't forget they spend just under a third of their missile interceptors on defending Israel earlier this year and that stockpile takes years to build up. no, lack of demand isn't the problem here
for whom the bell tolls
>>2601594>why would he put boots on the ground? he's just gonna bomb and drone strike the shit out of it. you can't take the oil that way
>>2601610> cascaded into stupidity as a result.As is leftypol's way.
America is waging war to destroy venezuelan jobs
In my thoughts, I used the technique of positive visualization. How come I'm always undermined?
>>2601612they tore apart libya with air power, although yes Iraq and Syria did involve them having some burger boots
>>2601615>>2601610You want decorum, join the fucking Oxford Union. This is a (decolonised) jungle.
>>2601567Considering you couldn't even counter that simple paragraph without looking like you discount colonialism entirely, Im not expecting much. But I'll look forward to your essay lol
>>2601621>they tore apart libya with air powerdid you forget the part where they had right wing death squads on the ground shoving knives up gaddafi's literal asshole?
>>2601621libya was dogpiled on by nato, america will be alone this time
>>2601627No I didn't forget, those reactionaries were pivotal, but I believe they were a smaller presence than Iraq, Syria and even Gaza
>>2601255Bruh we testing these things all the time. We are not the bongs failing to launch our Tridents. I've seen them with my own two eyes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395The test firing of a Trident missile from a Royal Navy submarine has failed, for the second time in a row.UFO sighting in California? US Navy says 'UFO' was Trident II missile test - TomoNewsIf I would put money on anyone's missiles working it would be the US and our trillion dollar annual budget.
>>2601445had me laughin out loud
>>2601632The American military industry is dying. The British military industry is already dead, it's just rotting.
>>2601630>he published it in a green book, but practically no one read it. i like just the flat out lie there
>>2601638Like this is all under the assumption too that the US are good boys and they don't already have warheads up there.
>>2601643Niche groups read it. I don't actually dislike the Green Book.
>>2601630>terrorist attacks at airports>reagan said it was gaddafi>the europeans said it was syriaso it was israel, got it
>>2601638What a retarded weapon
>>2601646The Green Book is nonsense but well-intentioned nonsense.
>>2601603This is wrong. The gay nazi was posting this doomer nonsense. They are wrong because Communist Cuba is invincible. They make up fake crises.
>>2600814>Cuban officials, who are always reluctant to acknowledge any catastrophe, have been refusing to accept that there is a health crisis,They admit that they make all this shit up. All of it can be disregarded as fascist nonsense.
>>2601656US productive output for weapons is
outweighed by demand, this number will simply shrink as America fights in more proxy wars.
>>2601656the budget is big because each screw costs 300$ to procure. total expenditure is a poor way to measure military capability
lost out on Greenlandic rare earth elements
now looting Venezuela is my new expansionist agenda
why hasn't the venezeulans built defences
>>2601673why didnt u get a fckin job
Will this war, if it gets announced tonight, cause mass protests.
>>2601682The backlash to this is going to make the Iraq War protests look like a wet fire cracker by comparison. The eschaton might actually be upon us gamers
>WaPo: A person familiar with the situation says a high-level meeting Wednesday could lead to new orders for U.S. naval and air forces in the Caribbean, with more forceful U.S. naval operations expected in the coming days.
>>2601682Probably not. Everyone's burned out and distracted. I don't even think mass immiseration would do much more that lead to a lot of death. But maybe I'm wrong. But I think more death and carnage will just lead to more demoralization especially when it looks like you can't seem to do anything about it. Maybe it's also just general cowardice.
>>2601661Maybe, seems like hopium to me. But time will tell
>>2601664I also posted other images anon, here's another couple for ya
>>2601665Nobody is safe from tendril of babylon chagos poster
>>2601685The Iraq War has a casus beli of "aggression", the overthrow of the regime was quick and it was very far away. Nobody believes this is about drugs.
>>2601678Trump is so petty lmao
And those gold letters on black background is so islamic
>>2601696Again, America may have 11 aircraft carriers, but China can now build an aircraft carrier every 2-3 years. With America, it's 4-5 years and it's getting worse with each year.
>>2601682Protest and disrupt the treat supply? You kidding?
>>2601696im aware how capable america is, the point is that capability is shrinking over time
>>2601703We are running out of treats to give.
>>2601682course not. they love war.
>>2601682Cpusa couldve been protesting weeks ago so probably not
I have a millenarian hope in this, alongside the dramatized immigration raids hastening a break between *some* latinos and burgerdom
Let me put it to you this way. Japan had the mightiest navy in the pacific in 1941. The attack on Pearl Harbor destroyed Americas pacific fleet. The Japanese Army bum-fucked every US colony in the pacific from the Philippines to Guam. They even raided Alaska. It was over. But the U.S industrial capacity was gigantic and dormant and centralising emergency powers created a war economy so efficient that their fleet was fully operational by 1942 and after Midway they had overtaken the Japanese Navy. Their ability to replace lost material overtook the Japanese ability to replace theirs, making it impossible to beat the US military. That's what China is going to do the moment the imperialists get desperate.
>>2601635
it was just funny, don't overthink it. something about adding -oid to the end of everything, even though that's not a new bit, you took it to the extreme.
iirc Ziorat Mamdanass called Maduro a dictator
Ziorat Mamdanass has the blood of venezuelan women and children on his conscience
>>2601712In times like these one has to adopt some level of idealism or risk falling into despair. Yeah sure it might not be materialism or properly Marxist enough or whatever but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do
>>2601712Those some Latinos only care about the ICE raids. A disgusting amount of Latinos are going to be celebrating Venezuela getting invaded. Venezuelans are Romani-tier for Latin America
Who will win:
>Specialised US naval-air taskforce with the most sophisticated wundewaffes in a desperate attempt to keep the pace against BRICS
>4 million people with mosin nagants
What snake narrative have leftcoms prepared to discourage communists from defending Venezuela and opposing the war? How are they framing their desire to genocide venezuelans and fructify american capital as the iNvArIaNt mArXiSt line?
>>2601723I guess trump was waiting for mamdani to maduro a dictator in an interview to invade venezuela
>they're making a malania trump docu-movie
fuck sake
>>2601727I'm referring to the already disaffected ones that might get pushed over the edge, but yeah I know that tons of reactionaries both in latin america proper and the US will consecrate their little eichman status
>>2601729The goverment tried to use miiltary force to change to houthi policy on israeli shipping and more less loss finding the houthi armed forces to tough to easily dislodge, maybe venezuela can change their minds
>>2601734if she shows her tits, it's worth it
>>2601701Wake me up when they've got more than the US, by your estimate it would take them 18 years to get to 11 carriers and 38 years to overtake the US at the most generous, not counting US allies and anything else. I don't disagree that China will probably eventually overtake the US, but it's a bit early to start celebrating lol.
>>2601704Fair enough, but as it stands they're still completely military dominant
>>2601749You forget China is not a war economy.
Also, this doesn't take into consideration things like anti-ship missiles.
So predictions of the outcome of this Venezuelan War
>Bay of Pigs 2.0
>Iraq War 2.0
>Vietnam 2.0
Or the worse outcome
>Russo-Japanese War 2.0 where the great power gets humiliated on the world stage and proof to be a sick man
>>2601752>Or the worse outcomeyou mean best
the thing is, even if the USA doesn't achieve it's stated goals with it's military invasion of Venezuela and the brutalization of the Venezuelan people, at the end of it, it won't be diminished in any tangible way, while Venezuela will be de-developed. with every failed USA military action in the world comes a flurry of condemnations but at the ned of the day the USA is not ostracized. it remains the economic center of the world, and it's victims are set back a century in development even if their governments are not toppled, which is not always the case.
>>2601750Again, I don't disagree that China has the capacity to overtake the US and that that's what trends seem to indicate. Just that it's not there yet and won't be for at least several decades
>>2601757This is just Yang Gang but garbage
>>2601757TREATLERS, FROM BIRTH ARE FORCIBLY INVESTED INTO THE IMPERIAL MACHINE
>>2601757>the S&P 500 has grown 10.5% annually on average since the 1950snot inflation adjusted. it's only about 6-7%. And he's only citing that statistic to imply the same rate of returns will continue. But if they're trying to get everyone in, that means the rulers are trying to get out.
>>2601583They will start with an air war, and then when that inevitably fails to defeat Venezuela, commit boots on the ground. Same story since Vietnam.
>>2601762burger industrial capacity is already totally dependent on normalized trade relations with china. if war broke out today, and those trade relations broke down, america would be even more incapable than it already is.
anyone remember the page where you could download yt videos and shorts?
>>2601773
wow 4klan is reactionary? you're telling me now for the first time.
>>2601771What sustained North Vietnam was Soviet and Chinese aid and sanctuaries in neighbouring countries. Venezeula doesn't have that. They have ELN support but that's it. America will try the starvation route.
>>2601774>anyone remember the page where you could download yt videos and shorts?just use yt-dlp like an adult. If command line interface are too confusing, use the website.
https://ytdlp.online/ >>2601773
spectacle
>>2601774I use tartube, it's yt-dlp with a GUI
>>2601757This is just going to turn out to be a huge rugpull decades down the line. They're gonna get the kids invested into treatlerism then rugpull it.
>>2601772Sure. It's unlikely they will engage each other in direct confrontation like that anyway
the fire rises
>>2601754You are thinking of U.S. intervention in MENA that resulted in that.
>>2601682No, because the vast majority of Americans are willing and enthusiastic collaborators who believe, if nothing else, that it's better to be an American.
>>2601814the crab seems comfy though
>>2601803The only reason you care about this shooter is that they killed the American Volk. If they had murdered dozens of Iraqis and bragged about it, you'd be organizing their election campaign.
>>2601812Mamdani gave his approval for this operation by calling Maduro a dictator.
>>2601818Reminder: Both Trump and Mamadani admit that they agree on most issues, the only substantial difference between them is the precise identity of who they think should benefit from American Imperialism.
>>2601812>>2601803>CPUSA and felix start posting at the same timeis it because they're both west coast or because they're both the same guy
>>2601821They are Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
>>2601821samefag theory getting more and more plausible
>>2601812That's a load of horseshit and you know it. Almost nobody buys into this idea that Venezuela is some existential threat to the United States, even if they think it's a "dictatorship" people remember Iraq and the fake WMD scandal and that was a war that was far away and easily won. Venezuela on the other hand is right on our doorstep and everyone knows the justifications for it are flimsy at best and thanks to its mountainous and jungle terrain will be vastly more difficult to fight. This is pretty transparently a desperate attempt by the Trump administration to start a war to maintain popularity, one that will give no benefit to Americans whatsoever.
Felix. What is your take on the CPUSA past month of inaction? Our investigation has determined they stopped doing things after no kings.
>>2601821I'm in Cali and he's in Oregon so yeah we're both on the same coast.
Plus I namefag so I assume that Felix just intermittently pops onto USApol, does ctrl+f "CPUSAnon" and then spams one of his tedious replies. The dude's obsessed after all.
>>2601831https://www.cpusa.org/article/u-s-seizure-of-venezuelas-oil-tanker-is-piracy/>The U.S. people, 70% of whom oppose intervention in Venezuela, must see this act as a dangerous provocation toward another war of aggression.If CPUSA actually believed this, why arent they doing anything? Are they waiting for trump to declare war before they do anything?
>>2601838
Left of AOC? Easy.
Tucker is to the left of CPUSA, DSA and Hasan.
>>2601838
if you had told me in 2019 it would be this way I would not have believed you but in hindsight it's so obvious and idk how I could have been so foolish
>>2601840>"LE WHY AREN'T YOU DOING ANYTHING?!"We've got clubs rallying local protests against the war but the reality is that public opinion means very little in foreign policy. Shit just look at how many people hate Israel vs the Dems still trotting out the "THEY'RE OUR GREATEST ALLY" shtick.
>>2601812uygha you funded your local pigs when you got your good boy permit to have a gun mr revolutionary
>>2601840>>2601846Not a CPUSA member nor necessarily defending them but historically anti-war protests and mass movements tend to gain more traction when there's actually a war going on rather than just a buildup to it. While it's still building up there's still the illusion that things are "normal" but once you're actually declaring war the proverbial box of pandora cant be put back.
This time, I hope nothing actually does happening. Give NEH a chance.
You can't be to the "left" or "right" of anti-imperialism.
>>2601854>You can't be to the "left" or "right" of anti-imperialism.stop playing dumb. everyone knows that left is colloquially used to mean "revolutionary" and "right" is colloquially used to mean "reactionary" or, at least, reformist or revisionist. People just get tired of 4+ syllable R words.
>>2601856
Is leftypol really going to be critically supporting JD Motherfuckin Vance as some kind of anti-imperialist option?
Tonight. SHE will defend Venezuela.
>>2601860"there's no difference fundamentally except on idpol issues." will be the party line as usual (ignore the palantir ties)
>>2601860AOC is gonna be the first female president who will send billions of dollars to israel and that is hecking wholesome, if you disagree you support le ebil Vance!!
Bloop!
>>2601851There's a dude on here who thinks we've got tens of millions of dollars in liquid assets. Basically the actual circumstances of both Socialism and the American proletariat are obscured by these types who devolve it into this idealistic conflict where people are merely
choosing to "do nothing" and by consciously choosing to "do something" magically a revolution is made through sheer will.
>>2601860>Neo-Mama Pelosi vs Puppet of ThielNone are anti-imperialist against each other
>>2601852I want nothing to ever happen at all forever
>>2601871go find a universe with equal amounts of matter and antimatter to live in
ok but while all this shit is happening don't you FUCKING dare forget the bondi beach martyrs may they rest in peace can we have a minute of silence
>>2601846Almost like protests are absolutely worthless and you know it, which is why your party refuses to do anything more.
Your ultra-Kautskyuite, ultra-Brodwderite party has totally abandoned class struggle in favor of class collaboration.
>>2601866Well yeah it's much easier and more comforting to the mind to discard material analysis in favor of simplistic good vs evil narratives, so there's little wonder why it's so popular here too. There's a Nietzschean element to it too, this idea that we dont have communism here because we dont want it hard enough, which in turn is proof that we're actually anti-communist. I actually think there is a certain use for idealistic thinking in these times as far as it motivates the masses, but you cant forget the material conditions either.
That being said, the inevitable war with Venezuela would be a really good time for you guys, the PSL, and any other major (nominally) socialist organizations to collaborate with each other. I know that different communist parties in America hate each other about as much as Konami hates Upper Deck, but these are dire times and if we dont join together we're all going to be crushed indiscriminately because the state doesn't care about our prolier than thou disdinctions
Reminder that Felix literally pays money to get VPNs to post on a board where everyone hates him. He uses his own income to spend his time like this
honkoid status?
>>2601880I dont hate felix, I think he's very funny
I would leave my job in protest of the war but then I remembered I'm already a NEET
If it wasn't for the slight ember of hope that China provides I would be a posadist at this stage.
>>2601879Shit like this is how I know none of you organize. The PSL refuses to work with anyone else, they want to be a vanguard and yet they are also wedded to the idea of strict legalism. Their ideology is utterly baffling and the fact that they HAVEN'T been repressed despite being openly funded by a Chinese national leads me to believe they are at least partially compromised.
>>2601890China will do absolutely nothing to help you, and may in fact go out of their way to harm you.
You have to solve this problem yourself, there is no foreign army.
>>2601892
>Democratic party funder accusing others of Class Collaboration >>2601891>yet they are also wedded to the idea of strict legalismif they did do illegalism, hypothetically, why would they announce it out loud
>they haven't been repressedbecause they work on appearing legalistic
>>2601879I do agree we need to collaborate with other orgs, though its somewhat difficult given there are ultra-left partisans intent on wrecking. I think a war with Venezuela will be a bigger flashpoint than Iraq personally in terms of domestic discontent. Things are already bad, y'know, economically. Adding an expensive war on top of it? People will be pissed. Plus I'm sure Trump wants to use any war as an excuse to cancel elections.
>>2601880He also literally pays money to cops for permission to conceal carry and funds arms companies that ship weapons to Israel.
>>2601898BB would never say this.
>>2601900>ultra-left partisans intent on wrecking.Wrecking? While your party is a subordinate arm of the democratic party and will cause issues by shepherding people to vote democrat anyway while "ultras" attempt to at least put pressure
>>2601908
truke
>>2601908
what else does your crystal ball whisper to you nostradamus
>>2601891I am well aware that the PSL has a reputation for being extremely sectarian, I have a friend who's in it and he spends most of his time complaining about other communists. But they're going to have to get over that or we're all going to be crushed indiscriminately, no ifs ands or buts about it
>>2601908
You and your "cadres" could do something any time you know
>>2601891They're organization strategy never really spoke to me. I thought about joining them but idk they are kinda a mess but they don't think they are.
>>2601900Ultimately some people are simply too stubborn and hot headed to admit any faults, and unfortunately quite a lot of Marxists and Anarchists fall into that category. Left unity through the crisis is pretty much the only way we're going to be able to survive and get to the point where we can actually set up a dictatorship of the proletariat in the first place. We can work out the details once the imminent threat to our lives is gone, rather than fighting to death over them while the state waits to gun down the survivors.
>>2601880I dont hate him, his heart is in the right place even if he is weird. Its only DSA and CPUSA feds that hate him, and those guys are hated everywhere else on this website except for this stasserite containment thread.
>>2601908
>They haven't been repressed because they refuse to do anything illegal, which is a necessary step for any party that is serious about revolution instead of collaboration.
You paid cops for a permission slip. You gave them your finger prints.
dan vagino
>>2601932Brahmin still coping he will never be seen as Amercian by his party lmao
>>2601933
Then you recruit from the Marxists within those groups and align them for revolutionary action. Even if the parties themselves are compromised there are many individuals within them who are well meaning and simply join them because they are the only game in town. Unless there's a party you'd recommend?
>>2601932>if you are a citizen who swears exclusive allegiance to our nationcool it with the antizionist remarks
>>2601937Thinking back to Shapiro saying the best guarantor of his continued loyalty to the United States is our support for Israel.
>>2601938Someone should draw Posadas and some aliens taking part in a Posada
>>2601931based based based based based based based based based based based
>>2601932I love when people argue for the supremacy of their particular nuanced definition of some meaningless concept that is only ever used as an ideological cudgel.
>>2601935>Unless there's a party you'd recommend?he will say you're a fed for even asking lol. we've all been through the rigmarole with the genuine gold garibaldi before
>>2601959Recomends getting 20 revolutionary cadres and once everyone's militia permit gets approved, doing things
Why struggle? Our alien comrades will help us in the end. Communism is a civilizational inevitability.
https://www.panaccindex.info/p/the-outbreaks-are-the-point?
>Doctors and journalists are raising the alarm about the rise of pediatric infectious disease outbreaks in America, most notably measles, but whooping cough and others are on the rise throughout the country. Children are getting very sick, and in some tragic cases, dying. Many are saying that this shows the failure of our modern federal public health agencies under Health & Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and his handpicked lackeys, who all made a name for themselves by cheering on COVID-19 infections in unvaccinated children on television and social media. As many tried to warn, minimizing one infectious disease was inevitably going to lead to the minimizing of all infectious diseases.
>This isn’t a failure, however. Unmitigated infectious disease outbreaks are the intended outcome of the “Make America Healthy Again” agenda, and they are succeeding. Measles and whooping cough are just the beginning of a rising tide of pestilence in the years to come. “MAHA” never had anything to do with the actual science and complexities of improving population health. Felix has been quieter than usual since we clowned on him.
>>2601964Fun fact: All of Malcolm's men had permits to carry because it's insanely stupid to carry a weapon without one.
>>2601959Oh I know I just like to bait him into his usual hypocrisy
>>2601964>>2601970forget the nation of islam, did you now the NRA tried to get gun control legislation signed because of the black panthers?
>>2601970all the NOI's permits
and all the NOI's men
couldn't put Malcolm together again
>>2601972Yes. Also Reagan with the Mulford Act.
>>2601846>vs the Dems Why do you speak about them as if your party doesnt ride their dick?
>>2601972Yes, the NRA is a reactionary force in America, you don't have to tell me that. At best they support gun manufacturers instead of gun owners, at worst they just blindly support the most reactionary position possible.
>>2601977are there no non dickrider parties anon?
>>2601980not yet. just one more party bro. please. just one more party. give america a chance. it can make one more communist party and get it right this time.
>>2601983Idk im not american. PSL and even ACP come to mind, though that one comes with its own baggage lmao. But there might be other lesser known ones
>>2601984I'm saying you don't have to do that if there's already non dickrider parties
>>2601989How can anyone hate on this guy?
>>2601991The ACP shilled for the republicans, and since republicans=democrats, it means the ACP supports the democrats
>>2602000Sure sure, but what about PSL then? Alternatively if there's no non uniparty shillers, then there truly is no communist party no? Is the plan then to split from the shill parties and make a communist party or what? Because your meme was about there being like 15 parties, but now we're just down to 1 or 0
zis ist klaus schwab und i'm here to say
you must give more of your oil avay
>>2601980idk why but calling them dickriders is so funny to me, its way better than just "opportunists" lol
>>2602007>Yeah, we're imperialists, problem?The 20th century is out of the window. Freedom and democracy is no longer the pretence, the mask if off.
>>2602011and thats a good thing
now the only problem is the dickrider question
>>2602022He's right but he's only saying this because he's butthurt about Ron and Rand Paul.
>>2601970Yeah but you are the real iron felix more badass than and revolutionary than anyone alive and your not going to let your standard be set be a group of religous extermist
>>2602021
>PSL is strictly legalist
how do you know? Because they said so? All organizations which mix legal and illegal tactics will do the former loudly and the latter quietly. If all goes according to plan, organizations mix legal and illegal tactics will appear strictly legal to the outsider.
>>2602023>Ron and Rand Paulyou made these names up
>>2602027Not me, my organization is illegalist and we're proud of it. We call ourselves Terrorism Incorporated, a subsidiary of Terrorism LLC. We are the Terrorists. Its in our charter.
>>2602009I feel like it get the point across nicely in a modern context
this is just like my hoi4 schizo mods
>>2602007Protip: it was a "friendly" neolib back in the 60 that nationalized the oil industries.
>>2602011I got called crazy when I said that stopping and reverting neoliberalism is the most revolutionary act any government can do today. because this is what the US wants.
if they could, all the countries around would have companies privatized, and running in WS.
>>2602039>2012Oh ok so politicians that have been irrelevant for decades. Weird reference
>>2602007>The war declaration is going to be the final nail in this administration's coffinLol
>>2602043this is the two party state weaponised mind virus btw
Deputy FBI director Dan Bongino to step down in January
>Dan Bongino said Wednesday that he is stepping down as deputy director at the FBI, after a nine-month tenure in which he clashed with both Justice Department leadership and the bureau’s workforce.
WSJ
we have three more years of this administration btw
>>2602053This country will not make it past those three years
>>2602044
>they take credit for their illegal actions
why would they
>>2602056I hope you're right.
>>2602042His son Rand Paul is a senator bruh and has been a vocal critic of a lot of Trump's (really Miller's because he's the puppet master) policies.
>>2602047I mean Trump already has horrendous polling and hasn't fixed the affordability crisis. He's deeply polarized the country. Starting another "unwinnable" war (especially one more liable to have coffins coming home) and doing it openly on the basis of "we're gonna take the oil" isn't going to win him more support, especially if oil prices don't even go down afterwards.
>>2602051>announced right before the Epstein files are supposed to releasehmmmmmmmm
>>2602042>decades, pluralRon Paul ran in 13 years ago, and his son ran 9 years ago… Trump regularly seethes about Rand Paul because he doesn't support the Venezuela invasion.
We live in a country where every several states absolutely loathe one another, have used their state defence forces as personal militias sometimes against the will of the government and we have an economy that will collapse if the Chinese so much as think about taking over Taiwanese semiconductors.
Civil war? Unlikely. Balkanisation within the next 50 years? Likely.
>>2602062The crashout will be epic
>>2602021
So no non dickrider parties is what you're saying? You're saying the shill split strategy is what you're going for? Or the the full dickrider "interfacing" strat?
>>2602062>>2602066I doubt they're even going to release them, once war is declared the Epstein files will promptly be sidelined because of some vague handwave about national security
>>2601846Please provide evidence of this. They dont seem to be doing anything. All of their accounts seem dead
https://x.com/LACPUSA new thread
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>>2602078>>2602061You're right. I am now gonna vote bloo 🫡
>>2601731Le interimperialist war
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