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>>2635855Quick run-down: Unlike previous mass protests in Iran the current ones were caused primarily by crushing economic conditions rather than civil rights, and so they carry undeniable proletarian character and potential. The true scale of the protests is hard to confirm due to conflicting imperialist propaganda, however the staggering death toll in such a short period dwarfs the previous protests.
<Statement by Tehran and Suburbs United Bus Company Workers' Syndicate, dated January 07, 2026
>"Support for the people's just movement; advancing toward real freedom and equality, not a return to the past.
>Popular protests and strikes in various cities across the country have entered their eleventh day. Despite an intensified security crackdown, a heavy presence of law enforcement and security forces, and violent confrontations, the scope of the protests has remained broad and diverse. According to reports, during this period, protests have taken place at at least 174 locations in 60 cities across 25 provinces, and hundreds of protesters have been arrested. Unfortunately, during the same period, at least 35 protesting citizens, including children, have lost their lives.
>From December 2017 to November 2019 and September 2021, the oppressed people of Iran have repeatedly shown by taking to the streets that they cannot tolerate the prevailing economic-political relations and structures based on exploitation and inequality. These movements have emerged not to return to the past, but to build a future free from the domination of capital, based on freedom, equality, social justice, and human dignity.
>While declaring our solidarity with the popular struggles against poverty, unemployment, discrimination, and repression, we explicitly state our opposition to any return to a past dominated by inequality, corruption, and injustice. We believe that true liberation is only possible through the conscious and organized leadership and participation of the working class and the oppressed people, not through the reproduction of old and authoritarian forms of power. Meanwhile, workers, teachers, retirees, nurses, students, women, and especially the youth, despite widespread repression, arrests, firings, and economic pressures, remain at the forefront of these struggles, and the Syndicate of Workers of the Tehran and Suburbs Bus Company emphasizes the necessity of continuing independent, conscious, and organized protests.
>We have said it many times and we repeat it again: The path to liberation for workers and the working class is not through top-down leadership, not by relying on foreign powers, and not through the factions within the ruling regime, but through unity, solidarity, and the creation of independent organizations in the workplace and in life, and on a nationwide scale. We must not allow ourselves to be sacrificed once again in the power games and for the interests of the ruling classes.
>The Syndicate also strongly condemns any propaganda, justification, or support for military intervention by foreign governments, including the United States and Israel. Such interventions not only lead to the destruction of civil society and the slaughter of the people, but also provide another pretext for the regime to continue its violence and repression. Past experiences have shown that Western imperialist governments have no regard for the freedom, livelihood, and rights of the Iranian people.
>We demand the immediate and unconditional release of all detainees and insist on the identification and prosecution of the perpetrators of the people's massacre.
>Long live freedom, equality, and class solidarity! The solution for the working class is unity and organization."There are unconfirmed reports of a Soviet being created in the industrial district of Arak.
Unconditional support to Iranian workers as they face the full savagery of capital on the local and international fronts.
NO WAR BUT CLASS WAR 542 posts and 159 image replies omitted.>>2643322If that's true, why do I have to suck islamist dick? What's the logic path that gets me there? Nationalism? Geopolitics?!?!
>>2643407liberalism and especially neoliberalism aren't just synonyms for capitalism, retard
>>2643412Refer originally to
>>2643353 Has Iran collapsed yet
>pretending to be leftistI'm not. I wrote a whole thread about it
>>2611371 >>2643387That's the same unsourced statement dummy, that doesn't prove anything, for all you know they copied it off of the same Italian fb page that the twitter random got it from. Where's the proof?
>>2643411yeah, they're ideologies with principles like
> separation of powers> secularism> individual liberties> independant judiciarythat iran doesn't follow, doesn't want to follow, or crucially claim to follow. they can be capitalist and not liberal. who are you responding to?
>>2643417No, no country has collapsed there since Israel was destroyed and its genocide stopped by the zased Iranian rockets
>>2643425So no proofs then?
Figures
>>2643413The Marx that explicitly counterposed liberalism and German reactionary bismarckian "socialism" in the very Communist Manifesto?
>>2643421I think we are in agreement
>>2643429>the Marx the counterposed liberalism with liberalismYes that one
The WSJ article is paywalled by a thing that hasn't gotten much attention is how the currency collapse was precipitated by Israeli hacks on Iran's financial system:
https://www.hudson.org/cybersecurity/predatory-sparrow-hacks-irans-financial-system-michael-doran-zineb-riboua>>2643404That may be true but it's difficult to argue that theocratic rule is preferable to bourgeois rule.
>>2643429ok but I maintain the claim that they have a limited market economy while being a predominantly theocratic country. and calling iran any kind of liberal is retarded.
>>2643434>theocratic ruleCan you take your liberal friends who like defending Iranian liberalism and collectively go back to reddit?
Here this is our quran
>>2643353 >>2643432You are genuinely retarded.
>>2643441Said the illiterate faggot who haven't read a word of Marx and can't respond to Lenin
>>2643434>That may be true but it's difficult to argue that theocratic rule is preferable to bourgeois rule.that's implying the two are really that different, either theocratic liberalism or pro-western liberalism
>>2643434I never made a claim that theocrats were nicer, just that people were misapprehending the facts on the ground and then drawing wrong conclusions.
>>2643444the principle lenin is stating is sound, but there are exceptions to every rule and in this case the capital has to yield to the prophet.
>>2643444Lenin's out of context quote was a polemic against people who criticized Soviet Russia for "skipping" the bourgeois democracy stage. I.e. there was already a successful revolution, a revolutionary government, and settling on social democracy would mean reverting to a bourgeois dictatorship.
It has almost nothing to do with the situation at hand, which is spontaneous protests with vague liberal demands, nebulous class character and essentially zero chance of any revolutionary outcome.
>>2643456Maidan snipers 2.0
>>2643449can you summarize your case for iran being liberal? I figure you're talking out your arse bt maybe it'll be haha funny not sad funny.
>>2643456>certainly the protestors do not have weapons in their possessionClearly some of the people in Iran are armed though.
>>2643451>lenin is wrong cuz vibes KEEEEEEK
>>2643452>Lenin reiterating Marx's thesis on the irreconcilability of classes and the inevitable domination of one by the other through the state which is ultimately a tool of class rule<how does this relate to my third positionist retardation???I accept your concession
>>2643458It's pretty clear at this point that the IRGC was shooting, but cults like to pull false flags. Cults also like to accuse everything they don't like of being false flags, but they're also the types to carry them out for crazy reasons.
>>2643461Well there are separatist groups (Kurds, Balochs) there and I've heard people say MEK has armed cells there. There are Kurdish groups that have been claiming attacks and infiltrations over the past few days.
>>2643465Did an MEK guy cuck you?
You haven't stopped talking about these nobodies since the protests started
>>2643462>third positionistYou're just spewing random nonsense at this point
>>2643462I don't blame lenin for not mentioning a special case islamic revolution from 1979.
>>2643470Your mind is broken by liberal campism
Just like your mama's is by my girthy cock
>>2643465>Well there are separatist groups (Kurds, Balochs) there and I've heard people say MEK has armed cells there. There are Kurdish groups that have been claiming attacks and infiltrations over the past few days.Yes, and they've both been pretty active in the protests, probably due to the simple fact of actually being organised.
>>2643468Anon we are specifically talking about Iranians that are armed, he mentioned MEK in this respect. If you can't talk about things like an adult please fuck off. You can always go to the Venezuela thread if you are just really into faggy bickering.
>>2643478He was spamming their shit now he is digging for conspiracies
>>2643473not the campism guy! hey, why do you hang out with people who hate you? is it because that's all people?
>>2643432>>2643413why do complete dumbfucks try to act like they read marx?
>>2643479I was talking about the monarchists too.
Just came across Mike Doran (plugged-in neocon) shitting on them in a podcast he does with this right-wing Israeli guy. I find this inside glowie baseball stuff interesting.
The context is them talking about what Iranian nationalism is in contrast to specifically Persian nationalism. Iran's non-Persian ethnic groups don't like the monarchists. Say what you will about Shia Islam but you can have Persian Muslims and Azerbaijani Muslims going to same mosque.
>>2643483I think they read him but are of those type of Marx readers that think just because Marx was critical of philosophy it means you can dismiss everything else (they dont understand what "critique" means in the context of german idealism, of which Marx inherited much because of his academic formation) then they don't read anything else and therefor misinterpret Marx because they dont get the philosophical context Marx was engaging with.
>>2643404>does their theocratic policy fuck over their capitalists constantly? yes.How do you figure that?
Peace, land and
Bread>>2643484>>2643404>who gives a fuck about their vibe? does their theocratic policy fuck over their capitalists constantly? yes. does their state give a fuck? no. absolute authority is in the hands of the clergy. the clergy are not the bougeoisis.<muh state is separate from the economic systemHail ᴉuᴉlossnW
>>2643483They ran out of arguments but are desperate to feel like they won the discussion
>>2643527>people really thought he had some kind of ace up his sleeve when he encouraged the people to protestBibi
>>2643586Funny when your only rebuttal to theory is "I feel otherwise" lol
>>2643462 >>26435272000 to 12000 to even 20000 reported
Doesn’t Iran have big riots every few years that never amount to anything. Why is this one any different.
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