>>2644669>"I don't feel as though fate looks upon you often, and when it does, you better be ready to seize the opportunity,"Words worth remembering closely in these times, friends.
>>2644446You say nothing of substance except adding "treat" at the end, and expect people to get what you're saying!
Let me make your argument sharper: the shift to service and rentierism has nothing to do with feudalism because feudalism is an agrarian based economy that relied on kinship labour and rituals that stressed permanence and repetition.
This is not the case under so called neo-feudalism, where wage labour reigns supreme, people are encouraged to consume and legitimacy of the system is validated by ever changing fetishistic quantitative powers (see GDP, autism score, or QoL indicators), which is characteristic of capitalism. What Varoufakis missed is that the transition to service based economy has little to do with capitalism mutating and rather with ORGANIC COMPOSITION OF CAPITAL shifting AGAINST labour, which means that manufacturing jobs and the associated tendencies are disappearing. This carries huge implication AGAINST the Left, because without a steady manufacturing field, you can't 1). Expect a solid block of proles under organized labour to emerge 2). It became much harder for anti imperialist countries to advance themselves, because industrialization no longer absorbs labour. These are massive blows against both the workerist faction of the left and the anti imperialist factions
>>2644212confirmed he got fired
>>2644741so the "ai bad" guys were right and the "ai will lead to communism" guys were wrong? shocker
>>2644745The "AI is bad but inevitable" guys are right. If you try to ban AI you will just be annihilated by countries that embraced AI, much like how feudal countries were absolutely steamrolled and colonized in some cases by countries that embraced Capitalism.
>>2644751>>2644752you two are forgetting the other outcome. Entropy.
Ai bros fail to realize that things cant keep going up. Eventually entropy will happen and cause things to go down. One can become 10 but can also go back to zero.
Once you account entropy and law of thermodynamics then you realize this ai dystopia is not the end goal of humanity. Its instead going to be collapse. (climate change is a product of entropy)
I believe in the most oppressed group in this world, who have it unfathomably hard – the proletariat of the imperial core; the children of Frederick Douglas and Earl Browder.
They will establish socialism anyday now.
>>2644757Entropy wont kill the universe for trillions of years. It's possible we figure out how to stop it by then.
>>2644772Absolute heresy and gigastupid to boot.
>>2644751> If you try to ban AI you will just be annihilated by countries that embraced AIAI will be super commoditized in the future. China is literally leading AI development, Gemini couldn't exist without deepseek's MoE, so every western AI product has been, for the last 2 years, downstream from chinese research. At some point ASICs or analog hardware will take the lead and these things will be stupid cheap to execute, and the west will have no significant advantage over the third world, in fact, it is at a severe disadvantage because it needs to recobble its industrial base before automatizing it.
>>2644785>gigastupidyes
>heresyspooks
Comrades in the imperialist core, face the dialectic head on: Islamic theocracy is Marxism-Lenin's supreme synthesis for peripheral revolutions. The Quran's iron discipline reforges the proletariat into an anti-Yankee hammer no secular dogma can match. Marx revealed religion as "the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, the soul of soulless conditions, the opium of the people." It anesthetizes sanction-torn masses while fueling class war against capital's carnage. Iran's Republic proves it. Gasht-e Ershad patrols crush hijab lapses and moral rot, barricading Hollywood porn, ripped-jeans bait, neoliberal family-shredders priming CIA colors. Mahsa Amini riots were Zionist-CIA knives exploiting Quranic slack. Western rights venom splintered ranks as Gaza bled.
Engels tied patriarchy to property. Iran's theocracy annihilates it, hardening ummah fortresses against empire's zombies.The Manifesto commands: "Proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win." Flood streets with Quranic enforcement. Morality police as ML vanguard. Supreme Leader as Lenin's centralism. U.S. leftists, your secularism is death. Iran's Islam is evolved Leninism. Burqas hurl back colonial nudity. Patrols quarantine capital's brothel. Moral slip invites Soros hordes. Clamp down with theocratic fury. Global South inferno consumes imperialism. Islamic proletarian dictatorship or bust. Total victory awaits.
>>2644772You dont need to believe in AGI to realize just how useful AI can be to capitalism. You can fire 90% of your accounting department and replace them with AI. You can fire most of your legal retainer and use AI lawyers instead. You can use AI codes instead of having to hire thousands of Compsci grads and stuffing them in a basement slash cubicle farms. Hell in a macroeconomic setting you can fire all teachers and replace them with AI teacher. And have i told you about AI cops? What about AI IRS agents?
All of this can be done right now, right here. Even without all the pipedreams spouted off by Accelerationists AI as it is today is enough to permanently cripple labour
>>2644783Marx tried to warn us
>the improvement of the soil in accordance with a general plan >>2644672it was such a "former supporter" coded thing for that guy to say. libs would just call him a pedophile. But the Massie/MGT crowd is doing this balancing act where they say he's a "pedophile protector" and they act like it's a big mystery why he's doing it.
>>2644792I sympathize with this position, we do need a civilizational revitalization, albeit i sympathize more with the Iranian nationalists than the Shia Velayetists who had never been an organic force in Iranian history to begin with. Alas, this fundamentally ignores the reality that the Iranian economy is shit and they are trapped in what is basically the Yugoslavian economy of the 1980s, and that is bound to burst sooner or later
>>2644796that makes sense, given the report that describes that the guy "has supported" rethugs…
>>2644669 >>2644794>You can fire 90% of your accounting department and replace them with AI. No you can't lmao, maybe you can fire your compsci grads, you know, for a bit, until you need masses of people to understand what's effectively instant legacy code that keeps breaking
>>2644802this. AI is a total grift. I work at an engineering firm where the upper managers thought it was going to replace everyone and it only replaced the most basic data entry lol. It actually made everyone else's job harder and require longer hours to quality control the AI's output.
>>2644783Doubt global warming will wipe out all humans. Even at it's worst projections there still will be millions left. And if we get put back to preagriculture level tech they still would have a billion years to get off planet to escape the sun's expansion. We've only been in existence 300,000 years and got to the moon already. Starting from scratch, I bet we will have space colonies within a million years or so.
>>2644741>so called neo-feudalism, where wage labour reigns supreme, people are encouraged to consumeencouraging people to consume non-essential commodities basically requires the reproduction of a labor aristocracy who makes disposable income. If the proletariat all makes subsistence wages, they'll spend it all on food, water, rent, utilities, and not be able to CONSOOM
>>2644804I don't think it's a total grift, I think it's useful as a tool, but it's vastly overstated because it's the last frontier to monopolize. But the west is shooting itself in the foot by putting literally all its eggs into this basket, unlike China who has is more forward thinking and modest with its expectations. At some point it will be incredibly commoditized, to the point where normal-ass people will be running trillion parameter models on their own hardware.
>>2644797I had ai write that
>>2644716I thought Mullin was a registered Cherokee Nation member like the gov. is supposed to be? When are they going to investigate the missing members at home or how about the Oglala who were just kidnapped by ice?
>>2644723Ok nevermind, he just wants to kill for the thrill of the strikes I guess. I'm too confused about all of this. Up is down and I'm out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_6IjeprfEs >>2644805>if we get put back to preagriculture level even if all but a few million humans die we aren't going to forget tech so easily. a mass death event isn't a portal backwards in time. You go backward developmentally, but you don't go backwards to a specific "point in the past" rather you move forward to a new situation which is deeply unpleasant but which nevertheless retains some of the progress that has already been made. Even if we lost the means of production and specialization to make a lot of things, we would still have ruins to explore and learn from, and texts we can reference. This is why people for a long time found post apocalyptic fiction so interesting… because it forces us to grapple, in advance, with the question of how to rebuild a new society from the ruins of the old. There is nothing to suggest we would forget how to read, write, do math, grow food, etc even if 90% of us died off.
>>2644794>You can fire 90% of your accounting department and replace them with AIimaging believing that Amazon companies and their similar ilk will hire AI to do creative accounting, when averaging words can't work with specific, on-point, loopholes and legal devices are needed to exploit the taxation laws.
>>2644807> don't think it's a total grift, I think it's useful as a tool, but it's vastly overstated because it's the last frontier to monopolize. But the west is shooting itself in the foot by putting literally all its eggs into this basket,and so many of the startups are objectively grifts who make big promises, or just slop with no real function. like i said my job replaced people with it, but it was only the least educated people. basically people without college degrees or job experienec. i saw a lot of smugness on here that "PMCs are gonna lose their jobs hahahaha!" but really only the most vulnerable entry level people got hurt… AS USUAL… further entrenching the specialists, who btw will probably not get replaced by juniors due to their would-be-proteges studying AI instead of traditional programming… A lot of legacy systems in banking run on COBOL still for example and the handful of aging specialists who know that make the big bucks.
>>2644806Anon this is actually retarded. Why do you think slavery is necessary for the rise of capitalism? Because without slavery you cannot produce treats and consoomer goods, and consoomer goods, like you know clothes or sugar, is necessary to sustain millions of people living in cities since they cant forage from the countryside and spent time making it themselves like under feudalism and the previous economic systems
I think you people are so fucked in the head you think consumer goods = marvel vidya sex goon material onlyfans. No, consumer goods is whatever is necessary to sustain the specialized lifestyle urbanized proles and the complex division of labour under capitalism. Your phone is consumer good. Your toilet papers too. Your bicycles, your refrigerators, your light bulbs, your antibiotics. You buy all these things from shart mart instead of making it yourself or obtaining it from a community-owned field, that is consumer good. That is your absorption to the money economy
>>2644815i'm talking about luxury commodities, commodities not necessary for survival. yes i'm aware you need a cell phone to even get a job in the imperial core. thanks for the reminder "gay dugin"
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>>2644818>>2644811You're right. My point is being doomer about global warming destroying everything is going too far, even if billions die and we somehow started from nothing.
And the sun's expansion or the heat death of the universe are so far off there is a very good chance we survive both even if we somehow did get reset from the same position as 300,000 years ago.
>>2644824I actually don't think, for what it's worth, 90% of us will die, but I was describing how even if we did we wouldn't go back to pre-agriculture. I forget if it's Mao, but like he said, just because the tide recedes, doesn't mean the coast is the same. new things wash up on shore, things get eroded.
>>2644669>Suspended from work>UAW does nothingOrganize bros, I don't feel so good…
>>2645399i didn't use the word consumerism in that post
>>2644010ya know once you type it out like that I can understand why all this talk of technofeudalism is in vogue even if this just a particular model of neoliberalism. The one silverlining with the reactoid gun hoarders is a lot of them forgot to hoard the supplies necessary for food and water or actually learn much of anything about bushcraft or survivalism past gun ownership. the anti-silver lining of that is if shit hits the fan these people will probably just murderhobo with the police.
>>2644400I spent nearly a year being homeless. Go sell you fucking blood and stop internet begging. Might be good for you to go outside for a while, get some context to life.
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