>>2640989what is the rifle the guy on the right is holding?
>>2640989more people should do that (legally with proper permits and all that of course). cops and ice are cowards and if there is a possibility that people might shoot back they are far less likely to shoot first. or do any violence really.
>>2640989white people in the us cant do nothing
>>2641001Absolutely agree, even on "anti ice" patrols that people seems to be doing(people were at the place of a raid earlier) they should be doing that
>>2640997he keeps "disappearing" and his simps keep simping despite not being able to defend the things he said either
protestors need to get behind a singular message. and that message should be abolish ice. currently some people are calling for ice to leave the city, others to defund ice and some for abolishing ice.
>>2641045If they force ICE out of the city then the avenue is wide open for them to declare an autonomous soviet
>>2640989The only good protestors
Will a shooting erupt at a ICE protest
>>2641069trump is suicide baiting
>>2641045All burgerville does is create new cops, ICE is pretty recent. Abolishing ICE should be an easy message to get behind.
>>2641074>ICE is pretty recentBush admin was 26-18 years ago unc
>>2641077Yes it is pretty recent, little bro. Now compare ICE to the US Marshalls.
>>2641078I like reading this kind of stuff because it reminds me that Amerikkka really is circling down the drain
>>2640964you have said what you crave
but what shall you DO
>>2640989Trumps gonna ban OC and his base will cope about how that's actually based because black people started doing it.
>>2641085You have no perspective. The point was most people who aren't toddlers remember a time before ICE , so it should be an easy message to get through the minds of the liberal masses to outright abolish ICE.
>>2641081What is /isg/? It's been a while since I've used leftypol regularly
>>2641104It's /internet spectacle general/
>>2005272 the iran protests are a distraction from the epstein files 😏😏😏😏😏
Been away from leftypol which is basically my only source of news. Hows the world doing?
>>2641001ther are plenty of places where doing that at all is illegal
>>2641102More people care about the 2nd amendment than some dyke getting her head turned into lasagna cause she was sad about there being less taco trucks, sorry.
>>2641103> The point was most people who aren't toddlers remember a time before ICENot him but this isn't true. ICE was founded March 2003. You'd have to be at least 22 to be born before ICE, and to remember a time before ICE you'd have to be 26. But those memories are children's memories. To have a solid memory of a time before ICE you'd need to be at least 32, making you 10 years old when it was founded. To have a politically informed adult's memory of a time before ICE you'd need to be at least 18, when ICE was formed in 2003, meaning you would have to be born at least in 1985, making you 41 this year.
>>2641129>>2641129The fools who envisioned this cannot even imagine greater things to waste their resources on, and are therefore deserving of death for that alone.
Not even a mega plex of some sort, just a shitty strip mall.
>>2641129if you actually look around the few inhabited parts of greenland on google street view, you'd realize how naive this AI slop is. But not only is it naive, it's not gonna happen. America wants greenland's natural resources (net profit), not to develop greenland into a consumer paradise (net loss)
>>2641136Good to know leftypol is just as racist as ever
(and homophobic)
>>2641145>>2641146yes, leftypol is that guy, and just that guy, so true
>>2640989damn that's cool, didn't know black panthers were still around. how is their party going?
>>2641147they forgot that im HIM
>>2641145>Duhduhduhdurrr racism durrPointing out that libsharts use the "avocado toast will get more expensive if immigrants are deported" argument is?
Oh you must be a libshart yourself and got offended lol.
>>2641146That's not true Ive jerked off to to lesbian porn, it's not scary until the scat starts.
>>2641136>sad about there being less taco trucksretard detected
>>2641164*Price of avocados getting more expensive
There fixed it so you'll be less butthurt
>>2641129Didn't rightoids want to outlaw Target just a year or two ago for selling woke shirts
>>2641151As far as I'm aware the original national party and its local chapters dissolved and some new ones that have adopted the name have sprung up. Some lib, some reactionary (these have jettisoned the old emphasis on establishing Socialism, instead either just doing straight forward patriarchal Black Capitalism or the communal flavored class collaborationism of Karenga)
Not entirely sure if the guys in the video are actually members of the party, but I did find this website and facebook page. Maybe they are in a reconstituted BPP
https://therevolutionaryblackpantherparty.orghttps://www.facebook.com/RbppPhiladelphia/ I like reading this guy stuff for updates about Iran currently. Yes, he's a liberal. Yes, he's a Democrat voter. Yes he has a lot of normie takes but also he's in iranian-american who despises monarchists and he hates the Shah so he says some interesting stuff about the ones who keep shilling the shah
https://xcancel.com/yashar>>2641187Actual arguments against ICE deployed
>>2641191>>2641193<IMMEDIATE SHARTY SPAM >>2641082The hell of the func is not the bunc
>>2641129Boomers are the only ones impressed with strip malls, Target and McDonalds.
>>2641187>>they can randomly detain you even if you're a legal citizen based on racial profiling and then refuse to let you go despite proofThey can do that to anyone no matter the race. The racial profiling and outward focus on immigration is cultural war cover.
>>2641226>They can do that to anyone no matter the race.bait. they aren't randomly detaining white people but they'll pretend indigenous people are mexicans regularly, and they're actively importing boers butthurt about apartheid ending and ukrainian neo nazis
>>2641226>They can do that to anyone no matter the race.yeah but you know they don't right? They just detain working class brown people even if they're citizens. It's absolutely an ethnic cleansing policy. no amount of evidence will satisfy you which is why you're hopping on tor node to post this garbage. and you're moving the goalposts from your original argument of "people are only mad at ICE for raising avocado toast price." (you will say it was a different guy but you have no words for him and infinite words for me, like fuck off dude)
>>2641246>I'm predicting some Search and Avoid rather than outright fragging.fragging will never happen unless they draft people.
>>2641246no they will send in the delta force psychos
have there been any [DISAVOWED] ice agents yet
surely the 2A guys are gonna get in there soon
>>2641235>>2641245They just killed a white woman…
Never mind the hundreds of billions they just got to expand their operations with no real limits just as Trump admin is ramping up it's propaganda about "antifa" (read white liberals).
ICE is being made into the secret police for all Americans. You falling for the cultural war cover because of IDpol.
>>2641261Fuckin Looney Toons ass
>>2641260Can you link the page? I can't read your screenshot
Let me clarify:
regular fragging of
superiors for the purposes of
sabotaging the war effort rather than settling
personal beef will never happen on the scale of Vietnam unless they draft people. the military is too loyal when it's all-volunteer.
>>2641270yeah, they just killed a white woman. I'm talking about who they target for detention and deportation you god damn retard. these faggots walk around with SS tattoos on they're neck but if I say they're racist and not merely classist you cry idpol and say I'm doing "culture war" fuck off.
This "conversation" so far
<you're just mad about avocado toast!
>list of actual fucked up shit ICE does regularly
<no acknowledgement of most of it but massive goalpost shift to racism being a mere "culture war issue" >>2641276Alright, thanks for clarifying. I agree that systemic fragging is something I'd only expect to see in a draft military.
let's post it again since the mass tor baiter is trying to distract:
>>2641159YOU (yes you, the anon I'm quoting, not the MASS TOR BAITER) just made up fake reasons people are opposed to ICE. the actual reason people are opposed to ICE:
>they are used to threaten low wage agricultural workers with deportation if they organize against the abuses>they can randomly detain you even if you're a legal citizen based on racial profiling and then refuse to let you go despite proof>they will hold you in detention sometimes for years, refusing to look at your birth certificate, hoping you self deport voluntarily>they will rape women and children in detention>they will "lose" (traffic) children in detention>they separate families>they neglect people medically, sometimes causing death>they regularly deport people to the wrong country >they regularly deport people to Nayib Bukele's concentraiton camp in El Salvador>they regularly expose people to the elements, like extreme heat/cold>>2641279I'm not that anon so I don't care to defend his racism. Just pointing out ICE has just started and haven't even got their full scale operations up and running. Seriously why do you think Trump picked ICE as his new secret police? So most white Americans don't feel threatened and the only thing liberals and radlibs will talk about is race. That guarantees majority of American will dismiss obvious evidence of ICE disappearing all undesirables. ICE can arrest and "deport" anyone they deem an illegal immigrant. Within the next few years, America's homeless, drug addicts, and white "antifa" will start disappearing.
>>2641283You are trying to make America's new secret police all about liberal race culture war. You are liberal.
>>2641276tbqh a draft will probably go over as well as the ukraine reddit battalion, high spirits till the first artillery strike wipes some out, and then they panic
I love how many anarchist accounts are showing themselves as nothing more than CIA backed psyops by what they are posting about Iran.
>>2641344Fireworks stocked up to celebrate when he finally has a cardiac arrest from the coke and burgers
>>2641331what are they posting
>>2641349same type of shit they posted about Syria
>>2641297>ICE has just startedthey were founded in 2003, lib
>>2641328Why does trump hate Powell again?
>>2641367Powell doesn’t want to cut interest rates, Trump does.
Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino hounded by activists and shoppers protesting his presence as he and a federal agent caravan leave a Target in St Paul, Minnesota for a restroom break.
https://xcancel.com/FordFischer/status/2010444145597509814#m>>2641372I think this will be the final nail in the coffin that collapses the economy.
Trump will force Powell out and replace him with an incompetent stooge, the market will panic, and there will suddenly be a lot of questions about the solvency of AI slop companies that they can't answer, leading to the bubble popping and a market crash.
>Do you like hamburgers?
That's certainly a very real possibility.
>>2641401We could definitely fit at least 20 Wal-Marts in there.
>>2641401I think I can see a WMD.
>>2641367>>2641380>>2641372jerome is economically sounding.
trump just want to indefinitely increase debt.
38 trllion USD debt? hold my horses
over 9000 thousand trillions>>2641398no. the US will subdue the world to its forever debt. a debt they don't plan to pay.
>>2641347he will die at the age of 120 on epstein island with a belly full of aspirin and a
redacted year old
redacted him off
>>2641379>Mr. Trump also shared a Truth Social user’s post that suggested that Secretary of State Marco Rubio should be Cuba’s presidentthe cuban people would rightfully tear him limb from limb
>>2641405Nah Trump is destroying all of America's soft power and good will. Who is going to want to buy up more debt? Especially given it's soon going to be a terrible investment.
The US military might be huge but they definitely can't bully the entire world into buying up US debt lol, not the way Trump's doing it.
Trump is his own worst enemy and will be the one to destroy himself.
>>2641407Honestly yes let's see what fucking happens please.
Surely there has to be a mayor somewhere who will try it?
>>2641410dude looks like he just popped charlie kirk
>>2641412lol no. modern cubans are docile and want cheap trinkets and toys. I know leftypol does not want to accept this but it is true.
>>2641401Wouldn’t that look so much better with a Walmart, some freeways and bunch of Stroads?
>>2641407Please God, from his lips to your ears, let this happen as soon as humanly possible.
>>2641371I love how they exercise guilty by association so carelessly.
>>2641421that was said about the old Cubans, too.
>>2641443>You are the Ronald Reagan+ of our timeDementia included.
>>2641443Might be the most pathetic man in politics.
>>2641250Yeah the forces they send to Greenland will be the types who wear people's skin
>>2641452>it's a federal crime if a federal officer commits the crime therefore the federal government needs to take charge and not let anyone else see the evidenceNot suspicious at all!
>>2641443National level elected officials publicly failing elementary school civics episode 464167427
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C11-2-1/ALDE_00000110/The power to declare war is in article 1 of the constitution
>>2641268I went to /k/ to see what they've been saying and they are mad that there hasn't been more deportations and killings by ice
>>2641458whenever you hear lindsey graham speak just imagine the sound of gurgling balls because that's what he's doing, the pitches of the gurgles don't matter
I truly wonder what modern documentary/propaganda films about life in America made in Cuba or North Korea look like. That DPRK one about homelessness was interesting.
>>2641460Of course, gun nuts have never been against tyranny, just a specific flavor of imaginary tyranny (e.g. being forced at gunpoint to wear masks or let their child be trans).
The handful of "leftist" gun nuts on here are either delusional or fresh from /pol/.
>>2641450I love how they're such pussies that they can't even commit to the Big Lie and immediately walk back calling the shooting victims Tren de Aragua members, instead saying they're "suspected gang affiliates" lmao
>>2641472It doesn't matter because most of America will just go on believing it anyways.
Trump administration officials to meet with Danish officials about Greenland on Wednesday, sources say
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-greenland-meeting-danish-officials/>>2641472They're suspected because we suspect that they are, checkmate libtards.
>>2641473Economic collapse within three months, calling it now, screencap this.
>>2641366They just got an unprecedented 150 billion more in funding.
https://newrepublic.com/post/197612/congress-ice-trump-budget-immigrationFunny how you ignored the substance of my post. Capitalists will do anything to distract from the class character of American police…
>>2641466>ditching a client because they have a benign skin conditionSad.
>>2641297>You are trying to make America's new secret police all about liberal race culture war. You are liberal.>all aboutacknowledging that ICE is full of white supremacists who specifically target brown people is not "making it all about" racism. Racism was always a big part of ICE. of course America's "new secret police" will be used for other things as well, and it was never stated otherwise. You're just doing that kneejerk shit where any acknowledgement of racism is seen as "radlib." What else do you call it when a black guy with legal citizenship here is detained for 3 years, they ignore his paperwork, and then he can't even get a settlement for all his lost time? Can you find even one example where the same thing happened to a white citizen? No I don't mean them deporting an undocumented white person. I mean illegally detaining a white citizen for 3 years.
>>2641490I filter all glowies and namefags they all say the dumbest shit imaginable. Only have to deal with the anons still replying to their dumb shit.
>>2641443thomas crooks should have crooked this one instead. easier, equally deserved.
>>2641297>You are trying to make America's new secret police all about liberal race culture war. You are liberal.like honestly fuck off, race was mentioned once in a list of 10 fucked up things ICE does (pic related) and you said I was trying to make it "all about" race. The context of the conversation was another anon was doing idpol, saying that the only reason white people fight ICE is because they're sad about losing taco trucks. I listed actual fucked up things ICE does as a counter to that
specifically and then you come back around, hyper focus on the mention of racial profiling, and pretend I'm somehow acting like they aren't used to do other things as well. anyone can read through this conversation and see how dishonest you and the other anon are being.
>>2641495>>2641495So like, why is he so unhinged on his second term?
>>2641502that little thing called dementia
>>2641502Mad about 2020 + fear of prison + dementia + all the people who told him no in the first term are gone and replaced with the slimiest worms imaginable
>>2641495lmaooo clown imperialism
Him throwing Machado under the bus because he wanted the nobel prize is still funny though.
>>2641512She's meeting with Trump very soon. It's going to be so funny if she literally hands him the award
>>2641502>>2641507I'd also assume further alienation. They were already detached from the proletariat, but are increasingly detached from any kind of pushback whatsoever. Even journalists are suppressed. Most people he talks to are sucking his McDonaldhole, look at the EU, I think even Xi and Putin will be dishing out flattery.
^
Also, probably just less pressure from supporters to tone anything down or be diplomatic.
Gop. Sen Lindsay Graham at a fundraising event with the Tzedek Association: "The reason I had to cut the speech off a little bit… I don't know what, but this might be the night [US attacks on Iran]. It's just a matter of time now
Lindsay Graham spoke approximately 1 hour ago. You can see his speech in the link
It can mean something; it can mean nothing
https://vimeo.com/1153389802?share=copy>>2641512And she wants to give it to him too.
Even though it wouldn't change Trump's mind.
It's so fucking pathetic how so many of these scumbags grovel themselves for Trump.
>>2641515journalists for the most part are integrated into elite society
>>2641459Psychopathic cunt
>>2641509Jesus that guy is fat
>>2641521The ones who remain in contact with the White House? Sure, I'll accept that.
The amount of people that we'd have to put in prison after this to fix everything is so fucking staggering that it feels impossible. Especially when it would have to be done by a Democrat.
The "Trump gets kicked out then Democrats do nothing for 4 years then Trump 2: Mecha-Hitler edition comes to power and kills us all" timeline seems guaranteed.
>>2641514After the nobel peace prize org said she can't share it with him I think she will just give him the thing
>>2641525>The ones who remain in contact with the White House?the ones who interface with any part of elite society, i.e, the vast majority of them, especially on the east coast. west coast journalists get a special shoutout for not being as susceptible to the normal secret-collecting and career-climbing opportunists that normally infest the profession
>>2641524So much plastic. Might as well fuck a real doll instead.
>>2641529He is 100% going to take it as an insult.
>>2641534he hates grovelers
"Trump told reporters on Air Force One that Iran reached out to the U.S. yesterday and proposed holding talks on a nuclear deal. 'We may meet them'" - Barak Ravid of Axios
>>2641502no US liberal pushback.
>>2641539Surely Iran isn't this fucking stupid.
They should be full speed ahead on developing nukes, not trying to make a deal.
>>2641528Dude there's no "put these people in prison" it's going to be a civil war and either we win or they kill everyone else and then themselves when Jesus doesn't come back.
>>2641543Iran absoultely is that stupid have you not been paying attention at any point?
>>2641545I know but who would you trust to lead a civil war? Certainly no one with any real power right now. And if there's no leaders then it's just an insurrection that will easily be put down.
>>2641542Democrats and US Liberals in general would love Trump term 1 to be "centrist" and they got their wish. Every insane action he takes will be perpetuated for "continuity" but the reality is they all want it to happen because it's where the money is. Trump just gets to play mad dog for a couple terms to realign towards fascist policy.
No Amazon, No Gmail: Trump Sanctions Upend the Lives of I.C.C. Judges
President Trump’s retaliation against top officials at the International Criminal Court has shut them out of American services and made even routine daily tasks a challenge.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/world/europe/icc-judges-us-sanctions-trump.html>>2641556All the more reason for Europe to not be dependent on American companies.
>>2641550It's gonna be more like something between the Italian Years of Lead and the Syrian Civil War
This is really interesting to read
https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1q9zra4/cogwar/CogWar
https://inss.ndu.edu/Media/News/Article/4371195/cognitive-warfare-2026-natos-chief-scientist-report-as-sentinel-call-for-operat/For those who still naively believe that the US are just a "next quarter focused", decaying clown show. These are only very rough outlines that can be accessed publicly, the nitty gritty of it, the actual methods, techniques and strategies are of course the classified secret sauce of destabilisation and regime take down around the world. The US state remains a fine tuned machine for disruption and destruction of any and all alternatives and it's the height of foolishness to believe that the machine is not only well maintained and oiled without interruption but also being advanced and perfected continuously for ever greater lethality and reliability. The war against any challenge to the ruling class is waged everywhere at all times and everything - above all the human psyche - is a weapon. Even Hitler couldn't have envisioned such a thorough "Total War" and any serious challengers will have to share the same mentality and approach.
>>2640989it's about FUCKING TIME holy shit
>>2641470Doesn't matter how hypocritical they are, gun nuts have given American leftists the ability to buy guns. Take advantage.
>>2641490Fine then. Acknowledge it but then point out how it will also be used to larger purpose. If you always keep the discussion on race you will lose the bigger argument.
>>2641498No, I wont fuck off. Keep your list but add an 11th bullet point saying they won't stop at Mexicans. Make it larger than the IDpol that anon was trying to make it all about.
It's obvious western leftists are compromised by race. They always fall for race bait turning every argument about capitalism, imperialism or America into their stupid race obsession. You can acknowledge race being used by capitalists to divide the working class and then turn the argument back to class conflict where it belongs. Don't stay on their level.
>>2641564Not unprecedented. They have to actually do something for it to actually be a happening.
>>2641372lol this speech feels so surreal
>>2641376>if you don't stop calling us murderers we'll murder even more of youevery day I understand more and more why Stalin just got rid of people
>>2641570damn so the US is now using diasporas as cannon fodder for their false flags
>>2641572probably cheering on ICE
>>2641572he's probably fine, he says retard and pussy and is getting insider info on kalshi and polymarket bets
>>2641572>it's a new dawnLoser.
>>2641572the bourgeoisie will sell you the rope to hang them with for the low price of being able to say slurs on twitter
>>2641585A taste of what'll happen if Trump successfully removes Powell and installs his own retard.
Imagine a Kash Patel figure in charge of the Federal Reserve.
protests fizzlin?
>>2641592It's nighttime bruh.
>>26415021. he was unhinged in his first term too, people were just too busy laughing at how "funny" he was and laughing at the liberal hysteria to notice
2. he survived an assassination attempt, and in his opinion, a "Chinese biowarfare plandemic" 4 years out of power from a "rigged" election and a "witch hunt", so he wants revenge against everyone now
3. term 2 is when you're supposed to go mask off because you no longer need to worry about reelection.
>>2641595They should be doing that shit TODAY not waiting for Trump to do something.
honkoid status?
>>2641597(its because they won't actually do anything)
>>2641570how did someone end up on the roof?
Good to hear no known casualties, hoping injuries are small
Don't worry Mr Starmer, just drop a few thousand burgers tainted with mad cow disease at the projected deployment zone of the americans.
>>2641572It's a new dawn for those who have always felt safe to now freely punch down and make fun of the less fortunate? Oppression is liberating? I don't remember anyone being cancelled since that staged spat between a Canadian influencer and a gay guy tht got a bunch of influencer channels popped some years ago. I think the word they were fighting over then was fag, but it was just pretext by the gatekeepers to drag maga followers into digital ghettos where they were cut off from reality to solidify cult control.
I feel like the liberals of today are even weaker than the liberals of the 30s pre-WW2. To the point that today's liberals would have let Hitler completely take over Europe. What explains this phenomena? Too many treats?
>>2641610idkk but it probably has something to do with hippies
>>2641473I got to think it more thoroughly. and now I think this is going to backfire very seriously.
>>2641585For those who missed it, Trump is trying to bully Jerome Powell into setting interest rates how he wants them, not how the Fed deems best for the economy. Powell responed with a video saying he won't be intimidated.
>>2641610Maybe it's related to that strong men creating an easy life which creates weak mean meme
>>2641610They're accustomed to modern convenience and a comfortable lifestyle, but this is true of everyone in the pol class and this generation in general. There's no place or need today for a Will Rogers or a Woody Guthrie to lift spirits, this generation has paid influencers to tell them what to think and whom to fear for a small fee and a good amount of their time. I miss the elders who told me stories about WW2 and the depression since their sacrifices made life easier for a while, but I'm glad they aren't here to see troops deployed against Americans. I'm pretty sure the betrayal of the Constitution would kill them anyway, and I wish I could've died with them at times.
>>2641618It comes down to whether the capitalists backing Trump are zealous to the point of suicide or if they're more loyal to the market.
>>2641473well economic collapse could lead to some sizzlin in the future. but here's how i think it'll play out. they'll find a way to sack Powell and they'll replace him with someone incompetent who will worsen the USA economy but it won't be immediate it'll be over time
>>2641589porky will just short sell if Jerome Powell gets couped. idk how many more crises we have to go through. market crash = haute bourgeoisie cannibalizing the petty bourgeoisie.
>>2641610More Americans than you think live their lives on what’s basically movie logic and genuinely believe there’s good pigs, good soldiers, and good CIA agents waiting to save them.
>>2641624he's wedging a war with the entity that basically is the center of the world financial order to further concentrate more power on the hands of the president.
one of the myths around the dollar was that it enjoyed a separation of power from the executive branch of the US, in terms of how the dollar it's distributed around the world, giving some 'economic' facade to every international monetary policy dictated since the enactment of the bretton woods.
now that'd be gone.
it can seriously backfire on the face of the orange man.
>>2641618what could financial capital even do in response? they put trump there in the first place. this is an insane thing to happen though since it signals to all bourgeoise that the central bank is no longer independent of presidential control, a liberal ideal enshrined by FDR in 1935. that's not to say trump isn't acting on their behalf, that's largely why greenland and canada are gonna be annexed, but it's still a big precedent to set
>>2641630>they put trump there in the first placeAnd can take him out if he gets too uppity. 25th amendment and good boy JD would lead the backstab
>>2641483SHORT
FUCKING
EVERYTHING
>>2641630As much as he would like, Trump does not have absolute control over the market. Their response would be to cause a crash which would make Trump even more unpopular than he already is.
>>2641585unironically bitcoin and metals will be the only thing to stay neutral or go up
>>2641641>Trump does not have absolute control over the market. Yes he does, he destroyed any semblance of the 'free market' when he seized U.S Steel with the golden share, giving the federal government unprecedented control over the board of directors and the flow of re-investment. Under the contract it even transfers to the next president when he leaves office
>Trump's Controlling Stake in U.S. Steel Is Indefensible Socialist Nonsensehttps://reason.com/2025/06/26/trumps-controlling-stake-in-u-s-steel-is-indefensible-socialist-nonsense/In short, trump single handedly destroyed the post WW2 neoliberal consensus, which made the takeover of Greenland and canada inevitable
>>2641648metals have been going up for decades. They consistently go up due to inflation. If you're referring to commodity prices. idk about stocks.
>>2641604I wish Star Wars was real so I could cause a revolution by spreading Marxist pamphlets amongst the proles of Coruscant 💔
>>2641653This might be the most poorly aged post of the year to the point I'm gonna screencap it and laugh at you later. Good luck anon!
>>2641334>The investigation represents the opening of a major new legal front against Mr. Powell, whom Mr. Trump has continually attacked for resisting his demands to slash interest rates significantly.Trump wants a more ideologically loyal federal reserve chair, right?
There is higher risk of runaway inflation if rates are kept too low, or unnecessary slowdown/recession if kept too high. He wants rates artificially low, so that could make inflation worse, right? Would piss off the country.
>>2641655Overcompensating. It's just a tweet though so who gives a shit.
Albeit he should not still be using a pedophile Nazi site. No benefit whatsoever.
>>2641641I just realized this guy never wanted to popular but feared.
>>2641653I get what ur saying but the act of war in Venezuela was just the beginning. If treaties are violated and NATO allies attacked, I don't expect either Canada or Europe as a whole will roll over and cease to exist without a fight.
>>2641657any actual arguments? nothing's gonna happen to trump, he represents and acts in the name of the american financial bourgeoise, as opposed to the international kind
its wild that trump is doing all this crazy shit and the only response is some protests here and there and twitter posts
>>2641158Not to mention that even if you were an 18 year old when ICE was created in 2003, that doesn't guarantee political awareness. Most people don't "remember a time before ICE" because most people don't really know when it showed up in the first place. They don't have a good sense of recent history. People in 2003 were distracted by the war on terror but probably didn't bat an eyelash at the creation of ICE or think about it as being that much different than CBP. Even older people.
>>2641641>Their response would be to cause a crash which would make Trump even more unpopular than he already is.Presidents don't lose their presidency because of a market crash. So why would he care if he's unpopular among the larger population? His pushing his faction of the bourgeois forward is all that matters.
>>2641664It's wild that everyone is letting him do it.
>>2641665If America wants? It's a few traitors who want it. The end of diplomacy and permanent destabilization doesn't make for good investments, hence part of the reluctance of oil execs on Venezuela.
>>2641630>>2641653>>2641641I posted this, that is a more pressing matter than the internal situation regarding to the fed:
>>2641629.
>>2641668see, libs don't really get it:
>>2641629 >>2641610I've been told that good times create soft men, who then make men hard, or something like that
>>2641653>neoliberal consensus>trump destroyednah the
>U.S Steel with the golden shareargument is bullshit.
the political class doesn't care about wealth redistribution, wealth inequality and other socialist-framed policies.
>>2641628i ridiculed libs all through trump term 1 for thinking the republican FBI agent robert mueller was going to put trump in jail and they learned NOTHING
>>2641680Mueller, She Wrote…
>>2641678so the reason it hasn't been normalized to call the USA what it is (fascist), is because USAnians are too stupid to know what it is
>>2641675Looting invites all sorts of unintended consequences with uncertainty being the only guarantee.
>>2641678>all fascists are socialists, but not all socialists are fascist.:rollingmyeyes:
fucking ᴉuᴉlossnW pig:
>“We declare war against socialism, not because it is socialism, but because it has opposed nationalism. … We intend to be an active minority, attract the proletariat away from the official Socialist party.”>“Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown… We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the ‘right,’ a Fascist century.” >>2641679overturning neoliberalism doesn't necessarily mean a return to new deal like policies, it could mean hyper-militaristic corporatism like that of nazi germany, for example
>>2641668Doesn't wallstreetbets hate the fed?
>>2641683they didn't do it out of a love of nazism but because they needed time to rearm, stop repeating misleading quarter-truths because it annoys people, for fuck's sake
>>2641697>they didn't do it out of a love of nazism but because they needed time to rearmi was commenting on the liberals of europe, not the USSR you illiterate
>>2641693these politicians and bourgs still believe in the free-market, as long they control the market, ofc.
>>2641473 ze price stabilité!
Trump is destroying
ze price stabilité!
Won’t someone please think of the
ze price stabilité!
>>2641610>I feel like the liberals of today are even weaker than the liberals of the 30s pre-WW2. To the point that today's liberals would have let Hitler completely take over Europe. What explains this phenomena? Too many treatsUnironically I think it’s the focus groups. Like the Bilderberg Group evidently came to the conclusion that WW2 and “Soviet totalitarianism” showed the problems with “democracy” and “the rabble” so a world ruled by technocrats who don’t believe in anything was the balm for them. Democrats especially went from these hayseeds and old ball-busting politicos who cut their teeth on corrupt local machines to dudes who intern at places called shit like “The Forward Institute”.
Like say what you will about LBJ, but he was a corrupt dick swinging mother fucker who did shit like spread rumors that his opponent fucked a pig because “I want to see the bastard deny it”.
It’s what unironically gave Biden some charm because it felt like he had more blood in him than the usual Democrat. If you ask him to do something he doesn’t want to, he’ll call you fat and say you should kill yourself. Ask Chuck Schumer to do anything and he’ll ignore you or shuffle away without answering, the best he’s got is lowering his glasses down the bridge of his nose and giving some lifeless speech about norms. Other democrats just sweat, fall back on repetitive soundbites, and get confused and scared when they’re asked anything their focus groups didn’t sufficiently prep them for.
With Republicans at least you sometimes get a local nut job who ran for senate after learning the health department wouldn’t let him cook burgers with gunpowder at his NRA themed sports bar. There’s blood there. Democrats are fucking lizard people. Trump is a grotesque avatar of Mammon but at least while he’s shoveling Big Macs in his mouth and sliding over Melania like a slug, there’s
something there. Raw animal appetite at least.
>>2641746>It’s what unironically gave Biden some charm why do you do this. your post is not improved by this
>>2641297Pretty sure ICE demanded a right to racially profile and got it in court so I don’t think you can segregate ICE from race issues.
>>2641473I’ve seen some people say if Trump gets his way we might unironically see hyperinflation. Like Powell might be the only thing keeping Trump from fully destroying the economy.
>>2641717
burn in hell
>>2641610listening to the radio war nerd series on the civil war this does all track with the northern elites allowing similarly insanities despite the domestic and international support to mercilessly crush it. allowing uncontested seizures of forts and armories while thinking they could negotiate. old guard generals in the east acting incredible passive seemingly intentionally trying to force the war to a draw getting many of their men killed. for instance insisting on returning escaped slaves to the south who were then drafted to create fortifications against the union. so very much in line with american liberals of today.
>>2641297>You are trying to make America's new secret police all about liberal race culture war. You are liberal.>imbbblying ice doesn't do racial profilingyou are a moron.
>inb4 racial wars is lib.you are the moron
est.
>>2641775Trump is going to end up with Bush Jr. approvals by the end of the term. Just wait until summer. Summer riots actually get people outside
>>2641777its joest brendun
>>2641775yeah I was prediciting this since the beginning of the trump presidency but some anons refused to believe me.
It was pretty obvious this would happen, lol
Where do we go from here
>>2641793dont worry gumball poster, it will drop to george bush levels once the economy collapses :D
>>2641790Trump had so much momentum going into inauguration day I thought it would at least last until 2027 but it is collapsing rapidly and thankfully the dems are not popular either. The rest of the 20s is going to see decades happen
>>2641801For me, I personally thought the guy was such a retard that his ratings would fall earlier than that. But even i didnt expect this much retardation from him. Its going faster than expected
>The rest of the 20s is going to see decades happenYes, everything is in chaos the situation is excellent
>>2641814>>2641810Too bad, black queens - the thread of fate passes by you once more.
I would say "better luck next time" but on the other hand I don't hope we need a next time. But hey, maybe a National Guard tank will run over a black baby girl or something.
>>2641775literally doesn't fucking matter. treatlers aren't doing shit about it so for all intents and purposes 100% of them approve of what Trump and the USA is doing
>>2641810glowies or useful idiots
call it
>>2641814>>2641810Why do so many black libs like cultural segregation?
>>2641129Now do a DPRK edit
I think it was even the police chief of Philadelphia, who is a black woman, who did the say her name bit for Renee Good.
>>2641443congress -> CONGERS
goebbels -> GOERBALLS
What is this americanism called?
is the US a rogue state at this point?
they are defying all international expectations.
>>2641861>cultural segregationThey think the races should be segregated… but in a woke way. Bodies and spaces and so on
>>2641809They are going to get all the bad shit done as fast as possible before Trump dies. Biden at his funeral giving a eulogy. Then we'll have President Vance stepping in as the stability president but doing nothing to undo everything trump did.
>>2641775Why's this a big deal? I thought his approval rates were even worse?
>>2641919>stabilityyeah good luck with that. Blue ocean event this year
In the end it will be entropy that destroys capitalism
>>2641775I think these rightoids are surprised its that high and expect it to be even lower. At this point the seem to recognize the majority of other Americans as thier enemy.
>>2641575Yeah. He's probably rageposting on X right now about traitors protesting ICE.
>>2641810Is this a big phenomenon? Anyway, this account is ran by someone who's been mindbroken by 2020 woke. I'm not sure how trustworthy it is.
>>2641944I don't like the Simpsons
>>2641810feds trying to create a little dysentery in the ranks
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>>2641980You are using Jodie. That's not good.
Stop seducing and using these foolish young woman.
Get a job.
>>2641961what about futurama
>>2641988Not to say that there isn’t valid criticism, but the job market is kinda shit.
>>2641993Not an excuse to seduce and manipulate foolish young women. Goth and alt cuties are still human beings.
>>2641980>loud, anti-racist principlesThere was nothing anti-racist about your behaviour. You were just being a lumpen nuisance.
Out of jail.
>>2641994>Not an excuse to seduce and manipulate foolish young womenI do not disagree. They need to redirect their desperation towards more productive and less questionable activities.
Comrades, let's cut through the imperialist lies and see the burqa and Iran's morality police for what they really are: weapons in the class struggle against Western domination. The Gasht-e Ershad patrols don't just enforce hijab, modest clothes, and chaste behavior on the streets. They stand as a frontline defense, shielding the Iranian working class from the cultural rot of Hollywood liberalism, ripped jeans imported from Yankee fashion houses, and the pornified gaze that turns women's bodies into commodities for profit. In a country under constant sanctions and threats from NATO and Zionism, these patrols keep the nation cohesive, blocking the kind of individualism that atomizes people and opens the door to color revolutions. Sure, they hand out fines or arrests, but that's the state doing its job, preserving proletarian solidarity against the bourgeois spectacle that commodifies everything, including our sisters' curves and skin.
Look at history. Colonial powers always fixated on unveiling women as their trophy, from French Algeria to Afghanistan. Fanon nailed it: the veil became resistance because it denied the colonizer's eyes access, turning everyday cloth into a fuck-you to empire. Today, the burqa or enforced hijab does the same in Paris banlieues or Tehran bazaars. Western feminists scream "oppression," but that's femonationalism pure and simple, white liberals teaming up with cops to punch down on racialized migrants while ignoring drone strikes on Muslim kids. Iran's patrols reject that script. They say no to the beauty industry that profits off women's insecurity, no to hyper-visible femininity that capitalism demands for its ads and catwalks. Modesty here isn't chains; it's a refusal to play the market's game, letting women move through public space without being meat for the gaze.
The revolutionary position is dead simple. Defend the right to veil against French bans and harassment, defend Iran's morality police against CIA-backed protests, and fight any family or mullah coercion that forces it too. Not because cloth is holy, but because imperialism is the main enemy, and these acts build the anti-capitalist front. Smash the states and bosses who police bodies for their own power, whether secular or clerical. The proletariat wins when we seize control of our cultures, our looks, our lives, staring down empire without blinking. History sides with the veiled fighter who won't strip for the colonizer okay
>>2642093That looks about right
>>2642098 (me)
As Democrat but first, as a "progressive", I promise to rehearse the defund-the-police script for the third time. And jingle the keys of "reparations" before you again. I promise to use all the right words that PR cattle like you enjoy.
Please, vote for me.
So we can "Generalplan Ost" the whole world in your name… with a friendly face at the helm, who knows just how contrite you feel about it.
>>2642114Where will you be when the Big One hits?
>>2641980get a job, seriously
>>2641473Freak the fuck out and panic sell everything
NOW! >>2642129At home in Europe, laughing,comfy watching TV like with Katrina.
I reckon I got at least a couple of general elections here before the fascism really gets going. And being one of those useless NATO hanger-ons we are just doing it out of contractual obligation, really. We'll get more neolib policies (which won't affect me anyway) and we'll pay more to subsidize the US cold war. Maybe we'll get to train some more proxy warriors like with Ukraine.
I'll tell you what my worthless euro state won't be doing though: Bombing around the globe for US capital.
Our path is to become the Thailand of Europe and the migration clearing house where the rest come buy their slave labor.
>>2642161>US cold warthere will be no 'cold war', only a hot war that europe will be participating in and because your continent is defenseless the euro nations won't be at the table, they'll be on the menu for americans and russians to divide up and conquer like a second Percentages Agreement. europe is guaranteed to be the staging ground for the next world war along with the pacific. the future imperialist war is coming to YOU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentages_agreement >>2642093What's going on with Idaho and Wyoming?
>>2642160>implyingTrump's toady after powell will cut rates so hard we'll be in the mother of all bull markets that will only crash when some sucker democrat wins 2028 and gets to take the blame for it. If anything you should buy a house before prices explode again.
>>2642231I think it's a lot of white supremacists and Mormons.
>>2642231Expecting anything different from there is naive.
>>2642073>, let's cut through the imperialist lies and see the burqa and Iran's morality police for what they really are: weapons in the class struggle against Western domination. The Gasht-e Ershad patrols don't just enforce hijab, modest clothes, and chaste behavior on the streets. They stand as a frontline defense, shielding the Iranian working class from the cultural rot of Hollywood liberalism, ripped jeans imported from Yankee fashion houses, and the pornified gaze that turns women's bodies into commodities for profit. LOLOLOLOLOL
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
<The so-called socialists are divided into three categories.
<[ Reactionary Socialists: ]<The first category consists of adherents of a feudal and patriarchal society which has already been destroyed, and is still daily being destroyed, by big industry and world trade and their creation, bourgeois society. This category concludes, from the evils of existing society, that feudal and patriarchal society must be restored because it was free of such evils. In one way or another, all their proposals are directed to this end. >>2642231The usual.
I was raised in the Rockies and the conservatives there put a lot of the rest of the country to shame, think its the thin air. We've got freaked out militaristic mormons with secret compounds in the mountains that go as far down as Colorado (they've even invaded and settled compounds federal land and nobody's done anything about it), multiple large organized fascist militias, out in broad daylight Klan rallies in Wyoming, list goes on.
Also a ridiculously high, almost unbelievable suicide rate.
>>2642258The biggest threat a communist government in america will face is Mormonism.
>>2642285Called it lol. Any communist government will have an afghan insurgency to deal with in the rockies.
>>2642292100%.
They aren't fucking around, and will gladly fight and die for whatever land they've likely illegally claimed that the state government just hasn't bothered to do anything about. Genuine fanatics many of them. The soft ones are in Utah, the others spread out around the rockies.
Even worse, they will gladly accept help from non-Mormoms who are sympathetic, like Klans people. They are relatively pragmatic in that sense.
>>2642292Na just starve them out. Quarantine the area, secure any towns in the valley below and just wait them out.
You know I think at this point Minnesota or at least the Twin Cities should declare independence. They're already being treated as a conquered territory rather than a state of the union as it is, might as well make the separation official since the Trump admin seems to want to destroy the state outright
>>2642231lotta neonazi presence in northern idaho
>>2642305Mormons are very sufficient. Not sure if you've been around any Mormon communities. They work the land effectively, can homestead with zero outside resources because they are often too poor anyways, and often do everything from scratch. This would still work, but it'd be a pretty long term play.
Better bet is to just use some drones to drop pesticides on whatever they are growing lol
>>2642307Walz is turning out to be an immense pussy, will never happen.
>>2642312are you confusing mormons with amish? the mormons can't live without their daily conveniences like 44oz diet cokes
>>2642315The amish also suck
>>2642317amish are a lot scarier when you look at birthrate projections, they're outbreeding everyone left right and center
>>2642322High birthrate is progressive. Low birthrate is reactionary.
>>2642315No.
You're referring to bog standard Utah mormons bud. You have no clue what the rest are up to, especially the LDS ones.
There are entire extremist communes of these people that live almost entirely self sufficiently in the mountains, even down in Mexico. Some Mormon compounds have even had direct violent conflict with Cartels.
>>2642315NTA but I think he's talking about the FLDS offshoots that left mainstream mormonism for letting in black people and not letting you have half a dozen underage sister wives
>>2642317>>2642322I do wonder(might be naive here) if a future socialist USA could just give them an SEZ or autonomous zone of somekind and just let them continue to be an insular rural community in an attempt at preventing them from becoming somesort of fifth columnist force. tmk the amish and mennonites we got out here in the eastern US don't have ties to wignat groups in the same way FLDS does out in the rockies.
>>2642326births sustain capitalistic growth through exploitation so the opposite actually. refusing to have children is one of the most revolutionary acts a person can do
>>2642329>growthSo progressive.
>>2642327>There are entire extremist communes of these people that live almost entirely self sufficiently in the mountains, even down in Mexico. Some Mormon compounds have even had direct violent conflict with Cartels.bro those are FLDS lol. they're alone and self sufficient bc of the polygamy the LDS church no longer recognizes
>>2642328I don't see why it would be necessary to do anything about them. They typically keep to themselves and don't get involved in politics. They're also pacifists. Just leave them alone in their communities and I doubt they would cause any trouble.
>>2642312Na any future government that’s going to finally crack down on all these cults is gonna want to avoid a Waco situation. These cults love hiding behind children. Best to quarantine them and try to get defectors to destroy them from the inside out. I don’t think they can last 5 years or so without importing fertilizer, and machine parts.
>>2642335They're a big problem because they're landowners buying up huge tracts of land. The Amish will need to be dragged into modernity like the rest of us
>>2642322High birthrates don’t mean jack for a dead end culture. Once you see the amish be forced to interact with the rest of civilization in a non isolationist manner and be forced to deal with climate change themselves, they will collapse in full.
>>2642333Explain how that's progressive
>>2642339They are going into modernity by buying huge lands. They are proletarianizing american peasantoids by enclosing le commons, or something. They are objectivly a progressive force
>>2642343More workers more product less time to work
>>2642352That’s progressive in the capitalistic sense.
>>2642340Sure, but american socialism wouldn't concern itself with the Amish fertility rate itself, instead what needs to happen is a reorganization of society so every ethnic group has replacement rates comparable to them. High fertility rate under socialism is the goal
>>2642339>huge tracts of landI guarantee you that it pales in comparison to what regular farmers and corporations own. Communities also exercise tight control over buying and selling of land, so they aren't exactly capitalistic but operate somewhere between a community of freeholders and a peasant commune. As long as they pay taxes and don't engage in counterrevolutionary agitation there's zero reason to bother them.
>they need to be dragged into modernitySame reasoning American colonizers applied to Native Americans btw. All it did was turn them into the poorest demographic in the country.
>The State Department has now revoked over 100,000 visas, including some 8,000 student visas and 2,500 specialized visas for individuals who had encounters with U.S. law enforcement for criminal activity.
>>2642355Well, you agree then, progressive.
>>2642320>It's either seize power for themselves and put up a fight or get crushedThat would require people be willing to put up a fight which let's be frank, Americans aren't willing to do.
>>2641563People are really fucking unprepared for the amount of COIN, 5th generation warfare, low-intensity operations type shit going on. Living in the imperial core is like living in the Matrix and is some bullshit Total Recall type shit. Why do you think "postmodernism", media criticism and Gramscil stuff is so heavily shitcoated? The humanities are both a testbed for mind-war operations and an R&D lab for mind-war. It's mindfuck shit all the way down.
>>2642362Get them pissed off enough and they might. In any case we need some communists down there radicalizing people because this is the perfect opportunity to do so
>>2642356>High fertility rate under socialism is the goalI’d be more worried about making sure we can even sustain the current existing population before creating a high fertility rate. The Amish certainly won’t be able to with their current methods.
>>2642336Just dump vaporized THC on their compounds till everyone is too baked to even stand up, then just arrest them
>>2642364>gramsciWhat about it?
>>2642357>I guarantee you that it pales in comparison to what regular farmers and corporations ownwhat even is this argument? are private landowners suddenly not a problem? at least farmers are using their land somewhat productively
>counterrevolutionary agitationthey don't use electricity so they are by Lenins standards anti-socialist
>Same reasoning American colonizers applied to Native Americans btwso did Marx. primitive communal forms of society need to be done away with and every Amish needs to be proletarianized
Amish and mormons vs le progress. Le God vs le progress.
>>2642372>I’d be more worried about making sure we can even sustain the current existing population before creating a high fertility ratebackwards ass logic, why do you think poor countries where people have *nothing* have the most children? we have the productive forces to sustain 10x our current population but bourgeois society is so twisted and lopsided that it can't even replenish the future labor it needs to sustain itself
>>2641861This kind of stuff goes back to Marcus Garvey, and even Malcolm X was black separatist prior to his pilgrimage to Mecca, which changed his mind because he saw Muslims of different races coexisting peacefully on hajj. Some black people in this country understandably (I disagree but see where they're coming from) think that blacks and whites have irreconcilable differences and should be segregated, preferably to the extent of being seen as separate nations. They don't want the Jim crow style segregation. They want their own nation. So it's more like "national liberation" than "segregation" in the apartheid sense. Problem is when these desires aren't articulated properly or are carried out in an opportunist fashion you get shit like Liberia (basically was like an Israel for African Americans, a US-backed settler-colony based on a Return-To-Homeland mythology), Black Hebrew Israelites, etc. Where Black Separatism becomes really bizarre and problematic is its historical and well documented collaboration with white supremacists and white separatists, and their hostility towards mixed race people and families, as well as interracial couples.
fixed a typo and added something Amish and mormons are based and progressive regardless of ideology and appearances.
>>2642402>why do you think poor countries where people have *nothing* have the most childrenTradition, but even they’re declining as well.
>we have the productive forces to sustain 10x our current populationFor now
>but bourgeois society is so twisted and lopsided that it can't even replenish the future labor it needs to sustain itselfBourgeois society has also jeopardized the future of those productive forces that allows for 10x the population we have now.
Materialist explanation for amish mormons?
Honestly the Amish and Mormons aren't an immediate concern, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Right now we should be formulating ways to take advantage of the current crisis
>>2642420Underdeveloped proletarians that are behind the curve
>>2642424Yeah, they are true proletarians indeed.
Everything you do in the US helps a fascist, both for and against whatever, it’s the first fully purely negatively dialectical society in history
>>2642425They’re the only people that can’t be bought off by social democratic concessions because they literally live off the grid, no social security numbers, no IDs, no documentation
>>2641502He knows they have vids and pics of him fucking kids. And It'll all be released if he doesn't do what they tell him.
>>2642427So they are anarcrackers?
>>2642432In the proudhonian sense
>>2641964dedollarization is a useful and necessary historical accelerant because it will destroy the purchasing power of the US dollar, bring the jobs back home, re-proletarianize the petty bourgeoisie, create new crises in the stock market, and reignite the American Class Struggle that was at its peak before WW2.
shit's fizzlin like i knew it would. the protests are just being ignored. they will die down this week.
>>2642447Are you kidding? They sent in an extra thousand ICE agents just to intimidate people
>>2642450Sir, we only do vibes based analysis here.
>>2642420>amish mormonsDid you mean to say amish/mormons? Amish are Anabaptists who hesitate to adapt technology. Mormonism is a separate religion and they do not shun technology or industrial society at all. The CIA used to be littered with Mormons and probably still is to some extent.
>>2642422As far as cults are concerned I find ithe Scientologists to be the worst. They have their own navy.
>>2642427>They’re the only people that can’t be bought off by social democratic concessions because they literally live off the grid, no social security numbers, no IDs, no documentationAmish people have documentation and social security numbers. They aren't exempt from federal law LOL. Also you have a naive view of the Amish. They don't live "off the grid" either. They avoid a lot of tech, but will sometimes adopt tech if they decide as a community it is necessary. The idea that they totally shun technology in general is an oversimplification. What they do is collectively decide whether a given technology should be adopted by their community or not. The question is also free to be revisited over time, which is why they've slowly come to adopt things which they previously did not use. They are also not immune to nationalist propaganda, nor are they outside the world market. Their commodities are not entirely home made. They use imported commodities and materials secured through US imperialism just like other Americans do.
>>2642453>Scientology navyI know they SAY they have one but do they have any actual physical ships to back that up?
>>2642450the protests are disorganized. they're not calling for anything. they're just marching around chanting. they're not exerting any real sort or pressure towards anything. all the politicians that are supposedly progressive are calling for people to 'follow the law' aka bend over and take it up the asshole
>>2642457OK you made me look it up and I guess it's overblown:
>Originally three vessels: the Diana, Athena, and Apollo, which served as mobile headquarters and training ships. Over time the fleet included other named ships such as Commodore Queen, Bolivar, Aries, Excalibur, Kastelholm, Neptune, and others, with varying roles and histories. By the mid-1970s, the Sea Org transitioned to land bases and the older ships were sold or scrapped. Today, the Sea Org operates only one ship, the Motor Vessel Freewinds. That is its sole remaining vessel used by the Church of Scientology and staffed entirely by Sea Org members. There is no credible evidence that any Sea Org ship, past or present, was equipped with military weapons. >>2642463>the protests are disorganized. they're not calling for anythingAgain, wrong. They're calling for either the abolition of ICE entirely or at minimum for ICE to retreat from the twin cities. The administration feels threatened enough by their resistance to send even more ICE agents, who are now openly saying shit like "didn't you learn from when we executed that lesbian?" at protesters. People are mad, ICE are trigger happy, this shit isn't fizzling any time soon.
>all the politicians that are supposedly progressive are calling for people to 'follow the law' aka bend over and take it up the assholeYeah and protesters are collectively telling them to eat shit
Support For Abolishing ICE:
Oppose: 50% (-11)
Support: 42% (+17)
Civiqs / January 8, 2026
(% Change With January 8, 2025)
USAnians are fascists.
>>2642475>telling them to eat shitso long as they stay 'telling them' this or that, they will be safely ignored as they largely have been up until now
>>2642478Probably. But doesn't the poll it's changed pretty significantly. Unfortunately or maybe fortunately for it to get more negative they might have to kill more people.
>>2642483The point is they're ignoring Democucks calls for order and restraint
>>2642427The Amish can be bought off by very basic raw resources and hand tools, what are you talking about
>>2642491Amish buggies have modern license plates (made by US prisoners) and safety reflectors (made from imported materials) just to pick a very simple example.
>>2642491They also have SSNs, IDs, and sometimes elect to use modern tech, but it's always a community decision. They're just Dutch anabaptists living a communal ethnoreligious lifestyle.
>>2642484>picthe mistake these four liberal fools made was to walk up to do them and do something silly like throw crap or try to slap them. It's possible to use far more effective forms of violence, but the "left" in this country is emotional, undisciplined, and untrained.
>>2642484USAnians are not ready to do anything but what they are already doing. Which is easily ignored. If ICE or some other fascist police organization ends up killing protestors that will not spur a popular movement to depose Trump, which would be the appropriate response, it would only cause a couple more protests, maybe nation wide. In any case all the admin really has to do is wait it out. They'll die down soon enough. People gotta eat, they gotta get back to work.
>>2642508There's no signs of these protests dying down and indeed they only seem to be accelerating
>>2642496>>2642493I just find it funny when payment might well be forestry coppicing licensing.
‘We don’t need them. We don’t like them’: Trump says MAGA has no room for antisemites
“I think we don’t need them. I think we don’t like them,” Trump responded.
Asked if he condemns those in the conservative movement who have been espousing antisemitic views, Trump said, “certainly.”
“If you talk about the antisemitic views, there’s been nobody better for us. As an example, I just got the Israel award, which is the biggest award they give. It was just given to me. First time it was ever given to anybody outside of Israel,” he said.
“There has been no better president in the history of the world as we know it that has been stronger or better and less antisemitic, certainly, than Donald Trump,” Trump continued, referring to himself in the third person.
“I have been the best president of the United States in the history of this country toward Israel. And that’s, by the way, acknowledged by everybody, including the fact that we have peace in the Middle East, and that’s going to hold.”
Asked if he would condemn the far-right shock-jock and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes, Trump said he does not know who he is. One of the interviewers reminded him that he dined with Fuentes along with Kanye West in 2022.
https://x.com/marklevinshow/status/2010744421822914872>>2641990I like that show, not the newer seasons though they were mid
>>2642570honestly it makes sense. I did find it a little fishy and strange with how quickly the project was pushed through.
>>2642570I mean he's been pretty open about the fact that this "ballroom" will for some reason be bulletproof and drone proof and that it'll be vital for his next inauguration. There's definitely something sinister going on there beyond just the misuse of public funds. Factor this in with Trump's inner circle moving into military compounds and it all adds up to something to be used in case of insurrection, which they definitely expect. This is not the behavior of a regime that is confident in its control over the populace
>>2642487Too many people see abolishing ICE as abolishing the police but it is getting more popular to end ICE but the truth is that ICE will just be a new agency under a different name to do the same job.
People will stop shidding and farding about ice as soon as a democuck becomes president again.
You know. I know it. Everybody knows it.
>>2642570 (me)
The author's series about possible Neuralink experimentation on ICE prisoners, among others, hopefully will NOT become relevant in future happenings lel
https://thedreydossier.substack.com/p/who-tf-is-in-my-head-part-1-the-neural >>2642582They should abolish the police too
>>2642582I think if anything this admin will reform ICE into a new org that serves as a paramilitary force that deals with not just with migrants but cracking down on any sort of dissent.
>>2642592Exactly this. This is the endgame of ICE and the next administration of whatever the ICE successor will be used by the dems
>>2642592Doesn't even need to do that. Libsharts are ineffective and will forget about ICE in a few years anyway.
honkoid status?
>>2642440>bring the jobs back homeWhat jobs? The mostly automated factory jobs, farming jobs, and service jobs? How long will full blown resource extraction last? America will be hollowed out and it's entire economy will be the military. 100 million deportations is just the beginning.
>>2642602Accelerating to the end
>>2642532this is just makeup and plastic surgery
>>2642615>and plastic surgeryIt's fine for burn victims and pitbull attacks.
Average people should accept their age and not do this.
>>2642609>America will be hollowed out and it's entire economy will be the military.impossible because America already depends on regions controlled by its geopolitical rivals for rare earths needed to maintain its military supremacy, and the US military is all volunteer with a recruitment crisis. They'll need to bring back the draft an invade several countries AND achieve strategic objectives to secure the resources needed to maintain their hegemony, which is becoming more costly and less profitable by the day.
>100 million deportations.Even in the most extreme scenario they are not going to be able to deport 1/3 of the US population. That's delusional, mass tor baiter.
>>2642532The number of people mutilating themselves via plastic surgery in recent years is alarming. Like christ can you imagine how fucking ghastly they're going to look in 20-30 years from now?
>>2642620Turning PMCs into alyums is praxis
>>2642627>The number of people mutilating themselves via plastic surgery in recent years is alarming. Like christ can you imagine how fucking ghastly they're going to look in 20-30 years from now?porky beauty standards are something else. I recommend hooking up with an outdoorsy woman who doesn't wear makeup. Unironically MAGAtards will complain about "butch" women who "look masculine" and dont' wear makeup but in the same breath will worship these mutilated barbie doll treatlerites.
On Monday, billionaire philanthropist MacKenzie Scott donated $45 million to The Trevor Project, a nonprofit that serves LGBTQ+ youth. The large gift comes just months after the Trump administration shut down counseling services for queer youth through the federally funded 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline, for which the The Trevor Project administered services.
In a blog post Jaymes Black, CEO of The Trevor Project, called the donation “transformational,” describing Scott’s gift as the biggest single donation the charitable organization has ever received in its 27 years of operating. Scott previously donated $6 million to the nonprofit during the first Trump administration.
https://www.wired.com/story/mackenzie-scott-45-million-dollar-trevor-project-donation/>>2642552The religious kayfabe is so powerful. You have the theocratic absolute monarchs who are the stewards of the holiest sites of Islam, cozying up with evanglical christian zionists and jewish zionists, while they themselves cozy up with pagan slavic neo nazis and hindutva polytheistic. What's the common thread between all of them? Extremely reactionary anticommunist politics.
>>2642589 if you read the NATO cognitive warfare report that was posted here yesterday which referred to biological impants
>>2642570they're making an AI president
>>2642660Holy fuck you're right this is going to be a complex to house the Trump.exe AI so he can be president forever
>>2642626>maintain its military supremacy,>maintain their hegemonyIt's doesn't need supremacy or hegemony to protect America and few core colonies for their bourgeoisie to live in secure luxury. Oceans and Nukes already do half the work. Military doesn't even need to be very effective just to maintain it.
>They'll need to bring back the draft It's always an option. But they may not need to if the alternative is being slave labor in a prison camp.
>they are not going to be able to deport 1/3 of the US population. That's delusionalFirst of all, it's not my number but from a tweet by DHS. Second, you might think it's a "meme" post but to me it signals the intent to get rid of everyone they see as an internal threat. Given a few years of chaos from global warming driving mass migration such a number is reachable.
>>2642665>First of all, it's not my number but from a tweet by DHSI'm familiar with their claim. It's a bold claim.
>you might think it's a "meme" post but to me it signals the intent to get rid of everyone they see as an internal threat.They'll certainly try. Maybe Iron Felix was right
about what needs to be done to the infrastructure >>2642666The main problem with Felix was his insisting revolutionaries must loudly proclaim every stupid third worldist talking point and alienate most Americans from joining. But he wasn't wrong about everything…
>>2642673That and his comically murderous sectarianism and insistence on this tryhard edgelord persona
>>2642673bear with me. the imperial core, in order to defang the reforms won by unions in the early to mid 20th century, deindustrialized, outsourced a lot of the manual labor, and now the most immiserated proles who have the standard of living closest to Marx's 19th century English proletariat, the people he observed the most when writing Capital, are people in the factories of China, the sweatshops of Bangladesh, the mines of Africa, and the farms of South America. They have the lack of safety standards, the lack of education, the lack of health care, the lack of family planning, etc. that people in the imperial core used to have. But where I think so called "third worldism" (or what passes for it on leftypol) goes wrong is it ascribes a sort of permanent and ontological moral superiority to the proles of the global south, rather than anticipating that the imperial boomerang and its accompanying blowback will, along with privatization, deregulation, austerity, union busting, and imperial collapse, will re-immiserate the core, and reintroduce the class struggle in a way not experienced previously, leading to a new era of class struggle where the bulk of the struggle returns to the former imperial core, after a long era of anti-colonial and anti-imperialist struggle. I can't say when that process will be complete, but it seems like it is ongoing.
>>2642570why would the looney tunes administration need to build another….
>>2642660 mmmm do they need a basement in the white house for that?
>>2642702if class struggle in america were serious, all the cameras in this video would be guns, bats, knives, bricks, bottles
>>2642570He's building the Führerbunker.
>>2642706Der Bürgerbunker
Revolution soon
>>2642484>Triggered much?Bovino is in his mid 50’s
>>2642709revolution requires a level of militancy, dedication, organization and discipline not even close to being achieved, and which, if we wanted revolution now, ought to have been achieved at least 20 years ago. People forget, the road to 1917 was paved by 3 dissolved dumas, the earlier failed revolution of 1905, and the various aimless terroristic acts of the narodniks in the 1870s and 1880s.
>>2641340>>2641357how do you slopkiddos change the character in an image? I know how to generate images but idk how to replace elements in them
>>2642657that's just a new name for getting bogged
>>2642714Yeah there'd have to be several failed revolutions in the US before we get a successful one.
>>2642714>the various aimless terroristic acts of the narodniks in the 1870s and 1880s.All the mass shootings and random attacks that have been happening might qualify as this.
>>2642570Someone said it’s actually modeled after Israel’s Oracle but I haven’t really looked into if the theory has any legs.
>>2642705It's ice on ice violence, it's spectacle for the masses, not a revolution.
>>2642726yeah, we're in our narodnik phase, but it will take a long time before we're in our bolshevik phase, even assuming an accelerated timeline.
>>2642728>>2642570Oracle’s data center
>>2642733there was a lot of pig-hugging copaganda during the co-option phase of BLM after the ferguson leaders were "discretely" murdered so I'm not surprised they're rolling out the pig huggers early this time
>>2642733I read about a Phoenix incident where a PSL person hugged a cop this past week lol
Death to the US
>>2642733that person is a veteran.
>>2642737He will be baked soon
>>2642140I had a job, jesus christ. I've got an interview with fucking McDonalds tomorrow morning.
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>>2642760
>you VILL hunt in ze apartment complex und eat ze squirrel
>>2641814>>2641810imagine seeing these events unfold and NOT seeing it as an opportunity to build inter-racial solidarity, lest we forget Renee Good was there to support migrants and was martyred for the cause of anti-racism
>>2642760
I would call the FBI to report a serial killer but they'd be too incompetent to do anything nowadays.
>>2641810Xitter posts are 90% bots so do not take any of this shit seriously. It's manufactured falseflagging ragebait.
>>2642764Don't waste your energy trying to understand it, it's bots and glowies.
>>2642775Liberals are desperate for “civility” they will never get again.
>>2642773Greenland was already hosting the US military so not much has changed.
>>2642782denmark wants to outbuy the US willingness to invade greenland by buying as much weapons as they can and say: see! we have all this weapons to protect ourselves from Russia and China.
it'd be super funny if trump does it anyway.
>>2642775>um akstually things were already bad before, stop complaining libtards!Why are some of you retards so eager to normalize what Trump is doing? Demotivation campaign? There's no way you're doing it out of good faith because any leftist serious about revolution is fucking salivating at the potential right now.
>>2642786Heard the bell ring? You'll get your treat with the next admin and stop salivating until the master brings out the bell again.
Laura loomer made her own PAC now with another psychotic Jew who lost non stop hate about Muslims
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Mekhttps://dmspac.com/
>Amy Mekelburg (born 1972 or 1973), known online as Amy Mek, is an American activist, critic of Islam, and social media influencer. Mekelburg founded the RAIR Foundation, a right-wing platform centered on topics such as immigration, Islam, left-wing politics, and globalism.[1]
>She also founded the Resistance Against Islamic Radicals (RAIR) organization to advance her views,[1][3] identifying as part of the counter-jihad movement.[7] The organization was later renamed to Rise Align Ignite Reclaim, or RAIR Foundation, with Chris Gaubatz as its president. The group was described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group.[8][9]Let us not forget that the first BLM waves were under obummer
>>2642794what do they have against shakira
>>2642790I'd love to see how these people define marxism
>>2641750>why do you do this. your post is not improved by thisI try to analyze things with as close to an neutral lens as I can, and I think Biden arguably had more "charm" than a lot of Dems in the running (other than maybe Bernie who still had angry old Jewish guy energy). Like look at Pete fucking Buttigieg for example and tell me that's a human being. He's openly gay and Lindsey Graham is still in the closet, but the latter manages to get across more authentic queerness than Buttigieg.
The others weren't better. Bloomberg? His campaign was just "I'm rich, haha, isn't that quirky?" Warren was like a middle-aged school teacher who's close to weeping about how her ex-husband ruined her life only to pull back to talk about fractions. Klobuchar was entirely forgettable.
Biden at least gave some awkward but earnest moments where someone tried baiting him with a "how many genders are there?" question and he responds with "at least 3". Like that's pretty much how an old white dude would probably conceptualize gender issues, it isn't a response that was focus group'd.
Look at fucking Hakeem Jeffries now trying to make "A strong floor and no ceiling" his answer to progressive democrats, it's a meaningless statement he just randomly peppers into speech after speech in order to make it "viral" or whatever. It's soulless. And he got the idea from a fucking neoliberal thinktank.
>>2641754Y'know one of the preceding issues of the Civil War was you had a Southern Politician brutally maim a Northern one because the Northern one compared defending slavery to having a whore for a wife. Like there was juice there, actual belief or if it was feigned at least it was a convincing fake. I genuinely can't picture any modern Democrat or Liberal talking that way now, it'd be tired graphs about how "Actually slavery is bad for GDP growth" and they'd still end up beaten by reactionaries!
>>2642748Alhamdulillah.
>>2642753>i sometimes depress myself by wondering how often small animals get microwaved, stabbed, shot, blown up, etc. by sadistic young chudjaks lacking parental oversight. I try not to think about it. My parents got on me extremely early about treating animals right and being conscious of their ability to feel pain. I don't know, it seems like something you need to tell you three year old or else they end up jerking it to crush videos.
>>2642775Then educate them?
>>2642803My dad once found me taking the big legs off of grasshoppers when I was 12 and basically told me to knock it off because it was disrespectful of life. I have issues and he does too, but I'm thankful he did that for me.
>>2642786You deluluoids were salivating at BLM with the same idea. "Omg the revolution is near!"
We kept telling you deluluoids just a few years ago that you will not get a revolution by disorganized masses piggybacked by Demonrat PMCs and Soros control-ops disguised as charities and "network training" and you kept banning us for speaking the most obvious truth.
Then CHAZ happened and you deluluoids were again on the "REVOLUTION IS IMMINENT" train and you kept banning completely rational people who told you that hippy anarcho-gang PMC lumpen festivals will get you nowhere.
Now you deluluoids do the same with le ICE protests "OMG the revolution is nigh" and completely rational people telling you that you are like a dopamin spectacle addict who can't into organization, tactics, and strategy.
It's like Americans are unable to learn from ANYTHING, to draw conclusions, to self-reflect, to formulate proposals, or read fucking theory.
And don't get me started on the OWS->Bernie->Chapo->DSA/CPUSA->AOC->Mamdani pipeline.
The biggest problem with America isn't the fascists. It's the lack of actual communists.
>>2642805They don’t want to be educated, and they are very insistent that they aren’t.
>>2642809The revolution is being home delivered as we speak
>JUST IN: 🇺🇸 U.S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright says the U.S. taking ownership stakes in oil companies is a real possibility, signaling a major shift in energy and national security strategy.
>>2641746>>2642800spectacle for the sakes of spectacle without any real policy doesn't defeat spectacle masters like trump.
>>2642794honestly that flag goes hard. the mirroring of the sickle/crescent, hammer/star is aesthetic as fuck. The red of communism and the green of Islam come together to have the same color theme ironically as Christmas.
>>2642810more importantly they're bots, and if your posts are any good, they will be hidden from everyone but you (shadowbanning is real), and subreddits with any potential get banned or quarantined.
>>2642799muh doctors plot or something
nazisaccuse communism of being a jewish plot, while zionists accuse communism of being just as antisemitic as nazism.
>>2642821>earn their support!Who are you? DSA (democrats) or CPUSA (democrats)? Or maybe anti-fa (anti-republican lesser-of-two-evilist)?
Because sure as fuck you won't achieve anything without a communist vanguard. Also, fuck "organic" fetishism. "Organic" movements get coopted by the bourgeoisie. The problem is that there's no communist movement to do the same, merely idiots who accept a temporary dem takeover as a sigh of relief.
Deluluoids.
>>2642815The Dems can't even bothered to put up the thinnest pretense of opposition lol
Reminds me of when the EU went:
>"We dislike bad thing Israel/USA is doing/has done"<"…but we will continue to support them in perpetuity"<"…And we show our disapproval by spending extra to subsidize NATO"There are legions of "🇺🇸🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼☮️✊" in bio types, whose worldview is in constant peril and NEED the PR people to keep feeding them copium for the resulting anxiety. They want to believe harder than Mulder, they need it bad. They'll do all the job of convincing themselves.
>>2642816The nationalization of critical american industry continues…
>>2642830Americans as a group benefit from the imperialist system of rape and exploitation, there are no communists in America because there’s no incentive for it. It keeps getting explained to radlibs here and yet they keep pretending that they’re communists and that a bunch of wealthy college students having orgies on public property is le revolution. Sad!
>George Floyd, Renee Good, and Brainworms Versus Reality>Finding social cohesion in fighting back against ICE
>It seems fitting that Minnesota is once again ground zero in the national culture war. In 2020, the killing of George Floyd sparked months of rioting that left behind dozens of dead and billions in property damage. Just as Floyd’s death became a rallying cry among those who believed that black Americans were being oppressed by the police, the killing of Renee Good has come to symbolize the reign of terror that ICE has unleashed across American cities.
>For purely demographic reasons alone, it is unlikely that anti-ICE protests are going to ever get as violent as those on behalf of BLM. In the same way that police pulled back in the months after the post-Floyd rioting, we may see greater agitation against ICE agents, making their lives much more difficult. The retreat of law enforcement led to more crime and disorder in 2020, but stopping street raids looking for immigrants is unlikely to have any discernible negative impacts on the communities affected.
>We’re told that ICE agents are simply “enforcing the law.” It is true that the federal government has the right to deport people in the country unlawfully. Yet this is a red herring, as we understand that there are many cases where, if government sought to fully enforce the law, it would produce chaos and repression. Under Covid restrictions, many businesses were lax in enforcing mask requirements, and it would have been crazy for authorities to go around trying to stamp out every instance of this. Or picture a police force trying to ticket every individual who went one mile over the speed limit.
>As of 2023, some 14 million people were in the United States illegally, which is about 1 in 24 Americans. To deport them all – or scare them enough that they leave – would wreck massive portions of the economy, and destroy countless lives among those left behind. About 40% of crop workers lack documentation. Nationwide, perhaps 20% of construction workers are undocumented, and in Texas it is about half. According to the nativist, they are all “taking jobs" from Americans, an economically illiterate argument under even the best of circumstances, but one that is particularly absurd in a country where the unemployment rate is at 4.5%, and has increased since the Trump administration began its crackdowns. If illegal immigrants weren’t here, many jobs simply would not get done, and this is even more true regarding those who come into the country legally.
>If someone is working, contributing to society, and hasn’t committed any crimes, then under any kind of humane and logical system, authorities would exercise discretion and leave them alone. In addition to the economic damage averted, an additional reason to take a less aggressive approach is that, as we’ve seen, a project of mass deportation requires a violation of the rights of citizens and non-citizens alike. Since July, ICE agents have fired into at least 13 vehicles, shooting eight people, including five US citizens, and killing two.
>All of this is happening not due to public pressure, but because Stephen Miller has demanded 3,000 arrests a day. Although ICE hasn’t reached those numbers, at-large arrests are about two and a half times higher than they were under Biden.
>Propaganda from the administration focuses overwhelmingly on criminals it has picked up. But there aren’t nearly enough miscreant aliens for them to get the numbers they want. That is why between early October and mid-November, 47% of those booked into ICE detention did not have a criminal conviction or even a pending charge. Only 5% had been convicted of a violent crime.
>The number of ICE detainees with no criminal charge or conviction rose 2,370% between January and November 2025, as the innocent now make up a much higher share of those detained.
>Note that the controversies that set off BLM riots usually began when law enforcement was responding to some kind of illegal behavior. Derek Chauvin ended up killing George Floyd after he had used a counterfeit $20 bill, and Michael Brown attacked Officer Darren Wilson after being told to stop jaywalking. It is symbolic of the senseless cruelty of the administration’s immigration policy that its agents often target individuals while they’re at work. Stephen Miller asked ICE why they weren’t at Home Depot and 7-Eleven, and as a result people are being detained precisely for being in a place where they are making a contribution to society because the administration cannot find enough criminals to remove.
>Of course, the motivation behind the ICE raids – along with other administration immigration policies – is to reduce the non-white population, no matter how it has to happen. To be this anti-immigration makes no sense in any other context, which is why administrations of both parties until now have for the most part left non-criminal illegal aliens alone. Now with Based Ritual types in power posting white nationalist slogans on the DHS X feed, there is no way to seriously dispute that a racial vision is what is driving administration policy.
>Another similarity between Renee Good and George Floyd is that both controversies have involved a big lie regarding violence in America. In 2020, there was the widespread idea that police were gunning down large numbers of innocent black men. Today, we’re told that the nation has an immigrant crime wave, and we need stricter enforcement to keep us safe. Yet immigrants commit less crime than natives, and if you consider how much violence, property damage, and theft they absorb as a result of being in close proximity to our more crime-prone demographic groups, their effect on the safety of Americans already here looks even better. In each case, the side in the wrong refuses to admit its real motivations, and therefore has to rely on a blood libel against an entire group of people in order to justify actions that would otherwise strike most people as deranged.
>Perhaps one reason to be optimistic here is that BLM’s big lie caused its own undoing. As it turns out, the moment that law enforcement backed off in major cities, violent crime went through the roof, and few ever wanted to defund the police. In fact, it’s difficult to come up with a more unpopular position. Urban black communities may have had their issues with cops in their area, but in the end they saw that authorities were doing valuable work and were needed in dangerous neighborhoods
>Not so with ICE. Americans want criminal aliens removed, and they generally can be picked up in prisons and at courthouses. Among those who live in urban centers where ICE has a major presence, there is practically no constituency for raids on diners and construction sites, which interfere with the lives and well being of citizens and non-citizens alike. Note how ICE agents wear masks, something American police never felt the need to do even at the height of BLM-induced tensions. They should perhaps take that as a hint that they are the oppressors rather than the defenders of the communities in which they operate.
>Those who have tried to put a less racist and hateful spin on immigration restrictionism will sometimes claim that we need fewer foreigners in order to maintain social cohesion. But what does social cohesion look like? How is it not a white woman in Minneapolis putting her life on the line to defend her black and brown neighbors against masked men there to satisfy anonymous lowlifes on social media? Or black and white Americans both insulting and shouting at the head of Border Patrol while he’s walking through Target with his face-covered underlings? You can also find it in the reaction to ICE raids in Los Angeles, which were condemned in one voice by a multiracial city where over 200 languages are spoken, in which Hispanics are a plurality, along with the city’s black mayor and the white governor of the state.
>The right tells us multiculturalism doesn’t work, a view that is contradicted by the everyday experiences of Americans across the country and their shared resistance to the nativist project. And this is not even a red/blue divide. There has historically been very little organic anger at recent arrivals in places like Texas and Florida, with hostility to migrants being a new phenomenon following trends in national politics. The administration has been suing states to block in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants, sometimes working with Republican-led states to invalidate their own laws — policies that had drawn little controversy until recently. This is why so much right-wing rhetoric has to rely on the myth of immigrant crime. People whose brains have been turned to mush by internet memes are convinced they’re living in a hellscape, in direct contradiction to the views of the communities that they claim to be helping.
>As with BLM, here there is a split between ideology and reality. The anti-police activists looked at inner-city violence and the state of race relations in America through the lens of the oppressor-oppressed framework and decided that law enforcement was the problem, no matter what the facts said. The nativist similarly starts with the conclusion that non-whites living in America is itself a problem, and then works backwards to enact a political agenda.
>In both cases, reality refuses to cooperate. Law enforcement stepping back made inner city communities more dangerous rather than safer. Likewise, you will not deport your way into greater prosperity and a unified culture. Rather, the path the nativists have chosen requires a continuous war against American communities that do not want their masked agents there. A movement aiming for social cohesion in this way can produce nothing but a constant struggle, one with the regular threat of violence, between the federal government and its people whenever a Republican is in the White House.
>But they will continue, since America as it exists is not what the nativists care about. They are motivated instead by a vision of demographic transformation, and if they can’t ever have a white America again – as it’s already too late for that – they’ll settle for the thrills that come with seeking and exercising power and inflicting pain on those they hate. It is up to us who believe in the real-life version of our country, its traditions, and the ideals that have kept people like them on the fringes to ultimately defeat this movement. May the memory of Renee Good provide inspiration as we fight to make sure she did not die in vain.https://www.richardhanania.com/p/george-floyd-renee-good-and-brainworms >>2640989are these good black panthers or the shitters who tried to hijack the name in the recent past?
>>2642840>For purely demographic reasons alone, it is unlikely that anti-ICE protests are going to ever get as violent as those on behalf of BLM.n word
>>2642809That's the sad part we have been through this multiple times already with the same results. 2028 will see a dem who claims to be the second coming of FDR like Joe did and calm all agitation because we are civilized again
anti-USApol action anti-USApol action anti-USApol action anti-USApol action anti-USApol action
>>2642844The writer of the article is not a socialist or a very left person. He's a person that was very right-wing and has now recently reformed himself. So take the good from the article and throw out the bad in my view
>>2642840>For purely demographic reasons alone, it is unlikely that anti-ICE protests are going to ever get as violent as those on behalf of BLMTruth nuke. You have more white people justifying a white woman getting offed by ICE than they are opposed. If it was a black woman in that car, Minneapolis would be in ashes right now and nationwide protest not seen since 2020
>>2642842>The group has been holding regular weekly free food programs in North Philadelphia for several years, according to 39-year-old Paul Birdsong of West Philadelphia, who identifies himself as the Black Panther Party’s national chairman.>We are the Panther Party for self-defense, to designate ourselves from other groups using the name, we are The United empires and the Almighty Alkebulan Guard.I have literally never heard of these people.
>>2642800> Klobuchar was entirely forgettable.she throws staplers at people apparently
>MELANIA is set for an exclusive theatrical release on January 30, 2026, with plans to stream on Prime Video following its run in theaters.
I know you burgers can't plan anything but treat consumption so can we agree to organize a Melania documentary screening on cytube after it drops on torrent?
Bonus if we watch the classic Hillary + daughter series after.
Would be a lovely saturday program.
why do people even bother with the millionaire tax in california? newsom is just gonna veto it
https://x.com/furkangozukara/status/2010654293393821894Happening. /pol/ is finding it harder and harder to defend this
>>2642879Why would they? They love watching regular people getting beat up and butchered.
>>2642843>"Mmh, Big Gay Ice Cream is the best!"While you can see his nictitating membrane if you squint, he still somehow manages to be more of a gay man than Pete Buttigieg.
I know I keep hammering that, but it's fucking baffling. Like Dems somehow managed to put forward the least gay openly gay presidential candidate in human history.
>>2642888
go fuck yourself
>>2642892
>harsh truth
<looks inside
>vibes based opinion directly contradicted by historical evidence in several countries
LOL
>>2642890yeah it's insane how clueless libs are. "WOWEE ZOWEE I HAVE LE EVIDENCE OF UR CRIMES!!!!"
1. why tell them?
2. who are you going to appeal to? the government? dumb bitch, they ARE the government
>>2642830>Because sure as fuck you won't achieve anything without a communist vanguardYeah and what do you think a communist vanguard should be doing? Sitting out every struggle and complaining?
>Also, fuck "organic" fetishism. "Organic" movements get coopted by the bourgeoisie.Yeah because communists aren't out there doing their jobs. How do you think successful communist revolutions happen? They happen when a vanguard party pays attention to what's happening on the ground. They look for points of organic struggle, i.e. instances in which workers come into conflict with their class enemies naturally and without the intervention of communists. They insert themselves into the struggles, they help workers and peasants achieve their immediate goals while explaining to them why these problems exist in Marxist terms. In doing this they earn their trust, bring them into the party, organize and further educate them towards class consciousness. Eventually they can take on a leadership role and direct the class struggle towards revolutionary ends. They don't accomplish anything by looking at every organic struggle and whining about how it won't go anywhere. What we're seeing is a natural outbreak of struggle between the workers and the repressive apparatus of the state, and instead of complaining about how these movements lack class consciousness, direction, leadership, or a revolutionary orientation we should be going into these struggles and providing these things.
>>2642879you are delusional. they want violence against all non whites, not just the illegal ones
>>2642897
>I have moved the goalpost to a different claim
ok nobody cares
>>2642899one of those ICE agents was hispanic or asian. pick me behavior
>>2642902
no they wouldn't
fucking retard
>>2642903the wasian menace strikes again
they aren't just satisfied with stealing all the baddies and good tech jobs
>>2642892
no i just don't want to have the same "discussion" that just derails the thread for the 10000th time
>>2642909
euroids aren't class conscious
>>2642907
wanna buy my magazine? $5 each.
>>2642907
Your mistake is in thinking that a stable liberal democracy is what precludes class struggle rather than being a sign of it being relatively absent. Liberal democracies can only function when class tensions are operating at a low level, and as such it's a symptom rather than a cause. However in case you haven't noticed, America's liberal democracy is on shaky ground. The current government is basically open about its desire to abolish it.
>>2642916
how did a 60 year old prager u viewer find this board
>>2642883Ukro-style bussyfication proper would be a net improvement over what ICE does. Ukronazis at least get *some* use out of the bussyfied by sacrificing them to Putin thus holding back the line for a bit longer.
ICE just puts them in camps (paid by taxpayers), adds a shitton of bureaucracy charges, and finally pays them a one way ticket to El Salvador.
Both is a huge loss on the economy but ICE is just wasteful without further purpose or underlying concept. It's like that Black Entertainment TV lady from Boondocks
<Eeevilllll The lack of self-awareness from the BURGER BABIES MUST DIIIEEEE crowd is incredible.
>>2642919
>im a big boy delivering EBIN HARSH TRUTHS to a MONGOLIAN BASKET WEAVING FORUM
Grow up you self-sucking cunts
>>2642918I think this guy is on his way to beating Rudy for craziest most corrupt mayor and he’s another New York guy too. Also this is all just a free for all looting economy now then. Scams are just legal now.
>>2642925
I guess reality is whatever you want it to be when you just declare everything you see with your eyes to be fake.
>>2642934People on this board are a lost cause.
They’re incel narcissists doing the usual trolling-for-validation-while-convincing-themselves-it’s-important bullshit.
>>2642895Exactly. It's useful but not threatening. It shows that there is an underlying axiom that the government will enforce law. It's stunningly naïve, this needs to be drilled out of the liberals.
Bread ful
Who bake bread
>>2642938
So?
>>2642933Well, it's also cashing in. A new spin on the politicians who end up as oil and pharma CEOs.
>>2642935this is a board that has 400ish people
everyone knows this shit is unimportant already
Any mf who complains about how the people at these demonstrations are libs should have "I've never read 'What is to be Done'" tattooed on their foreheads.
>>2642948
>No point convincing them voting dem is a bad idea when the only alternatives are the republicans
Cool so you're just a defeatist then. Why should anybody listen to you? If you want to give up then to it. Smoke weed and jerk off all day. Don't go around trying to make everybody as useless as yourself.
>>2642907> class struggle is not possible in a fully formed liberal democracyretarded
>every breath you take is oxygen stoleneven more retarded.
see
>>2642697 for a post which acknowledges your points, but makes them better, while still retaining a sense of actual future possibilities and change rather than this "liberal democracy is the end of history and you're ontologically evil for existing" shit which is just Fukuyama with a bad attitude.
of course it got no fucking replies because only bait gets replies in this godforsaken place
>>2642907
>I didn’t move the goalpost, I explained it,
yes you did.
>proletarianization is fake, people only ever become small business owners and individual contractors
this is just bullshit. even the imperial core will be proletarianized again when its hegemony collapses and class struggle is reignited.
but instead of proving this claim true you just went "blah blah blah you're stealing oxygen from real humans when you breath you evil monster" like every annoying pseudo-Maoist time wasting glowie on here
>>2642954How is that defeatism? Some strategies are not worth the time, our resources are better spent elsewhere.
>>2642960
>only social democrats trying to claw back the status quo ante
trying and failing because that won't work when they can't reconstruct their lost hegemony. China will be the new core and the USA will become a backwards backwater stuck with early 21st century tech and dwindling resources
>>2642963
there was the failed german one in 1919. anyway i never claimed I could. that was just your second goalpost. your claim that "proletarianization is fake" is the one I was arguing with. but you can't prove that so you just go "blah blah blah you're stealing oxygen from me" we've heard it all before gloiwe
>>2642962It's literally the only strategy that has ever worked. What alternative do you propose?
>>2642962Like what exactly?
>>2642956Micropraxis. I approve.
>>2642963
>I’ll wait
it'd save us all some headache if you did
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