<Attention Sabocat :)
This is urban guerrillanon. The last link was great. Do you have more? Anything contemporary? I'll do my own research as well but I'm assuming you may have done much already yourself.
>>2644828which is why the handful of us who aren't don't even know where to start
>>2644828Don't worry. They'll soon feel the pain :)
>>2644828Those are all bosses and management around him in that picture by the way. "Cheers" may be an exaggeration, considering 60% of UAW are Democrats. Also depends on the state and facility he went to, which can skew the average.
That being said, yeah trump may soon not feel safe enough to do things like this again.
>>2644840it gives me a fair bit of peace knowing most magats will be exterminated whether or not they "win"
>>2644840The system is in a severe degenerative state. There is concentrated barbarism now, and it will spread quickly. The system has already fundamentally changed and is now in a state of flux. If Trump goes for Greenland and Mexico and Canada (they will try) and there is a territorial dispute, it's game on.
>>2644840>>2644838>>2644845By the way I live here. The magats of the working class in my country don't know what's coming for them. They think they will be spared for their loyalty, but they don't know the meat grinder is coming for them.
>>2644828how many workers are in that factory? I don't think that small group represents a factory as big as that one. for what I could gather, there are 4000 of them (all shifts combined). if that's the power persuasion with the average joe, then you did a faulty syllogism.
>>2644828didnt someone scream pedophile protector at him at the ford plant?
>>2644874yes, read the OP picrel. apparently is already fired.
>>2644886>I believe in the most oppressed group in this world, who have it unfathomably hard – the proletariat of the imperial core; the children of Frederick Douglas and Earl Browder.passive aggressive sarcasm is unbecoming. just say what you really mean
>>2644892Passive aggressive sarcasm is the way of the Yank liberal redditor.
The Chagossian says openly and clearly what He means.
>>2644889Yellow unions gonna yellow
>>2644895>The Chagossian says openly and clearly what He means.>>2644886>I believe in the most oppressed group in this world, who have it unfathomably hard – the proletariat of the imperial core; the children of Frederick Douglas and Earl Browder.>They will establish socialism anyday now, but only if this thread is not derailed by pesky 'victims' of US 'imperialism'.Same guy posted both these somehow
Any updated theory published on Zohranism-Plattnerism? The Venezuelan and Iranian affairs distracted the American proletariat from further developing the most advanced scientific theory of our age.
neoliberals:
>you should support the current system despite the privatization, austerity, union busting, deregulation, environmental destruction, and manmade horrors beyond your comprehension because it gives you cheap banana and nintendo switch… STOP RESISTING
the only real communists on leftypol:
<you should support the current system despite the privatization, austerity, union busting, deregulation, environmental destruction, and manmade horrors beyond your comprehension because it gives you cheap banana and nintendo switch
thesis is the same minus one word, one is prescriptive, the other descriptive
>>2644911bloodgasm would never, ever take the cock of felix
>>2644886are you really that short
>>2644840it would be extremely funny, but kinda sad
>>2644828>photo op at the hitler-collaborator car company with the leadership of one of the most notorious class-collaborationist unions>in a country where most people don't work at a unionized job<averagemeanwhile
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/08/27/majorities-of-adults-see-decline-of-union-membership-as-bad-for-the-us-and-working-people/>The share of U.S. workers who belong to a union has fallen since 1983, when 20.1% were union members. In 2024, 9.9% of U.S. workers were in a union. >>2644832it's so funny burgers call their own government ministers "czars"
But I guess "Czar" itself is just a corruption of "Caesar"
Maybe in the future leaders of states will be called "Trumps."
"I was the Trump of Sanitation in the Mormon Autonomous Prefecture back in 2125"
>>2644910ICE will deport Ukrainians, Israelis, and "Native" Americans back to Russia where they all immigrated from. Greeks and Armenians back to Turkey. Dutch Boers back to Spain. English back to Saxony. Indians back to Pakistan. Japanese and Koreans back to China. Chagossians back to France.
>>2644917Yeah, I'm 148cm tall.
>>2644664You have no idea how the world works, let alone basic economic. The imperialists think they are oppressed somehow, that the treats denote their oppression. Imperialist hamburger mortgages and reddit gold subscription is not rent. Rent is extracted from workers who use landed means of production, not netflix subscribers.
>>2644687>400% interest loans are usurious to the people who use them.Wrong. This is imperialist false consciousness. The bourgeoisie use credit just like labor aristocrats. Their credit schemes are usurious only to those who already paid for it with their blood: those who built the phones and collected the minerals which allow the labor aristocrats to order their mortgaged, hand-delivered luxurious treats
>The burgers Americans buy come from America. America exports wheat and beef. It also grows it's own lettuce, tomatoes and potatoes.Wrong. The "amerikan hamburger" myth is lie of bourgeois national accounting. The feeds and the fertilizers and the machines etc. come from the third-world. All hamburger comes from the third-world. The treat is the cell of imperialism, the edible super-profit.
>>2644951That's 4'10" in imperialist measurements
First Indigenous President of Mexico Benito Juarez was shorter (4'6")
>>2644956>The feeds and the fertilizers and the machines etc. come from the third-world.actually Russia is second world and sells us the fertilizers
>>2644848Liberal idealist nonsense, evil individuals may not be punished in their lifetimes but their evil is taken in by a greater wicked system that will be destroyed regardless of what any individual does. When the USA is destroyed along with all of its supporters all the evils of its past will be vanquished alongside it no matter how many managed to escape justice beforehand. How many corrupt aristocrats escaped justice due to their status? It doesn't matter because in the end the feudal system that gave them the ability to escape said justice was completely destroyed in the end, time grinds away all privileges. Only a selfish individualist would view the world in such a warped lense that their individual tormentors would be punished above all others. Just as time heals all wounds it punishes all crimes.
>>2644960>How many corrupt aristocrats escaped justice due to their status? It doesn't matterthis is extra funny because you go on to say:
>Just as time heals all wounds it punishes all crimes.No it doesn't. Henry Kissinger died comfortably in his home at 100.
>muh individualismcollective punishment of people is the norm throughout history. punishing children for the crimes of their parents. punishing people for the crimes of their rulers. everywhere you see the responsible escape punishment, and their proxies take the beating. It took centuries for us to develop a system where even the semblance of individual responsibility was
sometimes upheld in a
half-assed way with presumption of innocence, trial by jury of peers, etc. But it's "liberal!" and "Individualist!" Ah but the liberal individualists will also bomb the shit out of all military aged males in fallujah. Is the problem the framework of "individualism" itself, or the fact that most of the world is still treated as a faceless horde? Under communism everyone will finally be true individuals, not the fake individual subject of capitalism, but actual free human beings, free in both the positive (freedom to do things) and negative (freedom from having things done to you) sense.
so what will happen if they rule trump's tariffs illegal today?
>>2644996>WhatNothing
>IfThey won't
>>2644958Whats up with the two Benitos being short
>>2644951Based. Efficient.
>>2645024no wonder he's so angry at us, he resents his short height!
>>2644818Commander-pedophile-in-chief
>>2645021Yanks are height-obsessed. Stupid Yank doesn't know being tall just increases chance of heart attack.
>>2644958Wasn't ᴉuᴉlossnW named after him?
4 july 2026
the new american revolution will occur
>>2645089The 250 year anniversary. May it be the last
>>2644840Can you stop posting this hideous Israeli dweeb in our thread? Keep the loser contained in Australian related threads. I can hear his lisp in his posts
>>2645117it's factual though
Talloids' hearts need to do more work to pump oxygen round their giraffe bodies and thus mroe prone to failure
Shortoids will inherit the earth
>>2645148will be solved in 15 years albeit
>>2645081Do we have a video of trump flipping him off
>>2645148Manlet dies from incel rage at 40 so tall wins as always
>>2645075smal bean is resource and energy efficient:
>requires less calories>takes up less space>able to burrow in vietcong-style in little holes underground to kill invading yankeesbig ass long ass peopleism is labor aristocrat fetish:
>inefficient, high calorie need, takes up much space>can't fit more than 10 in attack helicopters>stomps on each other when Black Friday shop opensTL;DR: smal bean is communist and height fetish is labor aristocrat parasitism
>All american workers are small capitalists who don't suffer the boot of capital
<They suffer the boot of capital but they deserve it.
>>2645263i always liked that quote because it is itself an absolute
>>2644956Wrong. Peddling lassallian leftkkkom 'talking points' (bourgeois talking points) will get you nowhere boy. Read Lenin.
>>2645107>>2645429Spectacle. Replace the clown with morally righeous capitalists and nothing changes.
>>2644956>All hamburger comes from the third-world. The treat is the cell of imperialism, the edible super-profit.Retards actually believe this
>>2645459
noooooticing strawmen
>>2644914soon comrade, soon
>The Tudeh Party of Iran
>Iran on the Brink of Potentially Devastating Transformations:
>“The Urgent Need for Immediate Action to Save the Country from Dictatorship”
>Published- 12 January 2026It must be stated clearly once again that the outbreak of the current protest uprising and its expansion over the past 15 days are rooted directly in the rapid spread of poverty, inequality, and blatant injustice, as well as corruption and the wealth accumulation of a small minority as a result of the government’s economic policies over the past three decades—not in demands for the return of monarchy or the restoration of royal rule.
Moreover, alongside the heroic struggle of hundreds of thousands of people against despotism and class oppression, it is evident that certain organized elements and groups, through acts of sabotage and violence, are attempting to pave the way for direct intervention by the United States and its allies in the course of the current protests.
In this way, the catastrophic consequences of the ruling theocratic regime’s domestic policies, combined with the devastating impact of U.S. sanctions on people’s lives and livelihoods, have placed the country today in an extremely difficult situation.
Imperialist media outlets, once again relying on their vast resources and capabilities, have launched propaganda campaigns and disseminated fabricated narratives aimed at restoring the monarchy. They are attempting to ride the wave of the people’s legitimate protests and divert the anti-dictatorship movement from its true path. On the one hand, these media provide an excuse for regime leaders to label the people’s protest uprising as the work of the United States and Israel; on the other hand, by exaggerating monarchist currents, they seek to create obstacles in the process of building unity and practical coordination among progressive and national forces.
Developments at home and abroad over the past few days demonstrate that the artificial and dependent current formed around the slogan “return of the monarchy” not only lacks a broad social base and a serious program for democratic change, but is also incapable of achieving anything without U.S. and Israeli intervention and threats—aside from sabotaging the anti-dictatorship movement and popular protests. Reza Pahlavi’s shameful request to Trump on January 9, under the pretext of “helping the people of Iran,” in which he stated, “You have proven—and I know—that you are a man of peace and true to your word; please be ready to intervene to help the people of Iran,” is a clear example of the anti-national behaviour of this current. In practice, such appeals have given the leaders and repression apparatus of the Islamic Republic the opportunity and pretext they needed—citing Khamenei’s order labelling protesters as “rioters” and “foreign agents” and warning that the government would show them no leniency—to violently suppress the entire protest movement by falsely accusing the people, through figures such as Pezeshkian, of being “terrorists,” “instigators,” and mercenaries of the “enemy.” Given Trump’s threats of intervention in Iran, the actions of Reza Pahlavi and the leaders of the Islamic Republic together could create conditions that smooth the path toward a U.S. attack on Iran.
Over the past few days, major Western media outlets and some Western politicians, by exaggerating the monarchist current and steering public opinion toward portraying the collapse of the Islamic Republic as inevitable—and direct “Western” intervention under Trump’s leadership as necessary—have been pursuing and guiding an “alternative-making project” for Iran. For example, since last Friday night, BBC radio and television networks in the UK have aired videos produced by the Mojahedin-e Khalq Organization, conducted interviews with John Bolton, and broadcast similar programs. Alongside major media in France and the United States, they are attempting to create an atmosphere and justification for intervention in Iran’s internal developments. The British government, a longstanding accomplice of the United States in advancing imperialist policies, also announced on Sunday, January 11, that it seeks a “peaceful transfer of power in Iran.”
In addition, we are witnessing regrettable actions by some well-known Iranian figures. Among them are Shirin Ebadi, jurist and Nobel Peace Prize laureate; Mohsen Makhmalbaf, writer and filmmaker; and Abdullah Mohtadi, Secretary-General of the Komala Party of Iranian Kurdistan. In alignment with Reza Pahlavi, they wrote a letter to Trump calling for his intervention in Iran’s affairs—an intervention that would include military action. Is Shirin Ebadi unaware of the fascistic views, reactionary anti-woman and racist ideology, and aggressive, hegemonic policies of a figure like Trump and his war-criminal accomplice Netanyahu?
Within the framework of the plans of the United States and its allies for our country and the region, such appeals and reliance on foreign intervention in Iran’s internal affairs are in fact tools to contain and neutralize any possibility of organizing a popular movement and forming an Iranian force capable of rescuing the country from the current ruling dictatorship and guiding it toward national-democratic revolutionary transformations. These imperialist interventionist policies have been repeated many times in Iran over the past century. The Pahlavis played a fundamental role in implementing these policies, benefited from them, and in return granted major concessions to the intervening powers—against national interests—including during the August 19, 1953 coup against the national government of Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh following the nationalization of the oil industry.
After the overthrow of the dependent dictatorship of the Pahlavi family more than four decades ago in the popular revolution of 1979, the theocratic dictatorship quickly abandoned the ideals of the revolution and, in order to preserve the dominance of “political Islam” and protect the astronomical wealth of power-connected elites, positioned itself against the working people and national interests. For years, this regime has been an obstacle to fundamental national-democratic transformations. The situation has now deteriorated to such an extent that society sees all avenues for justice-seeking, equality, and freedom closed, and—despite repression—has reached an explosive stage of widespread street protest to reclaim its rights. Under such acute conditions, with a weak, corrupt, and repressive government, Iran once again faces dangerous threats from the United States, Israel, and their infiltrating agents.
Following successive popular protests in Iran over the past one or two decades, it is clear that the theocratic regime has now lost the ability to contain or balance against the legitimate protest uprisings of the majority of society and is no longer capable of even relatively repairing or managing the deep rift between the people and the state. The remarks made last Sunday night by Masoud Pezeshkian in his so-called “frank and friendly televised dialogue with the people” on the economic and livelihood crisis and the removal of subsidized exchange rates were nothing more than a repetition of tedious and fruitless rhetoric from the past and will bring no real change in favor of the people. His ineffective “talk therapy” acknowledging the economic roots of recent protests—without offering any effective remedy—will have no impact on public opinion. The working people feel these issues with their own flesh and blood and have learned through experience that government officials lack the will and capacity to resolve them.
On the same day, Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf, the Speaker of Parliament, had nothing to say beyond repeating dangerous and reckless bravado—bravado that can clearly be interpreted as beating the drums of war. He stated: “In the event of a military attack, Iran, within the framework of legitimate defence, will consider Israel and U.S. military and shipping centres to be legitimate targets.” Ebrahim Azizi, a brigadier general in the IRGC and head of Parliament’s National Security Commission, went even further with such foolish and dangerous posturing, stating with reference to the recent protests: “In the future, the Islamic Republic will consider any action against the United States and Israel legitimate because of these events.” Meanwhile, according to Trump’s latest claim, the Islamic Republic has requested the start of negotiations, and Abbas Araghchi also announced on Monday, January 12, that “the Islamic Republic is ready both for war and for negotiations.”
The reality is that both the powerful forces and factions within the structure of the ruling dictatorship and the forces dependent on Trump’s America seek the continuation of some form of dictatorship in Iran. The first group pursues this goal either through preserving the existing structure centred on the absolute rule of the Supreme Leader—though its lifespan is rapidly approaching its end—or through limited changes aimed at safeguarding big-capital interests at any cost, while maintaining the current political economy within a neoliberal framework. The second group advances this approach within the strategic plans of Trump’s domineering and coercive government, in coordination with the war-mongering Netanyahu, to redraw the region’s geopolitical map. Today, Iran stands at the centre of these changes in its weakest and most fragile political, economic, and social condition.
Over the past century, this is yet another instance in which our country, due to the recklessness of its rulers and their disregard for the lives and livelihoods of working people, has fallen into unrest and entered a path of decisive transformations. Unfortunately, this time—as during the 1979 revolution—progressive and national political forces lack the necessary preparedness for effective and practical unity around a shared minimum program, making the direction of current developments deeply concerning. Once again, certain circles are attempting to impose a “leader” on the movement from outside. The fragmentation of progressive forces is such that until just a few weeks ago, some organizations and individuals—rather than focusing on constructive dialogue, practical coordination, and mutual support (including and especially support for prominent forces and figures inside the country such as Mir-Hossein Mousavi or Tajzadeh and 17 civil activists who declared that “transition from the Islamic Republic is the only way to save Iran”)—were instead preoccupied with abstract interviews and writings disconnected from the country’s realities and external threats, redefining “the left” and settling scores with progressive forces, while the left movement and the Tudeh Party of Iran were simultaneously under pressure and attack from the regime’s security-media apparatus and media linked to the Pahlavi camp and foreign powers. It is clear that this fragmentation, divisiveness, and inaction effectively serve the interests of the theocratic dictatorship and monarchist currents.
The Tudeh Party of Iran, through its calls, official documents, articles in Nameh-ye Mardom, and direct contacts with other progressive and national forces, has repeatedly emphasized the necessity of constructive dialogue and practical cooperation around a minimum program in the struggle against the ruling authoritarian regime. Progressive forces need to formulate a shared program that can be presented to the people and prepare the movement to confront the current critical situation. With such a tool, there is hope that developments can be directed toward serving national interests and popular demands. Unfortunately, thus far this opportunity has not been used to organize a united and effective struggle against dictatorship.
Nevertheless, despite the harsh conditions prevailing in the country and the inability of progressive national forces to effectively shape the course of events, we believe that the anti-dictatorship struggle and the defence of peace and national sovereignty will continue for objective and real reasons. From the perspective of the Tudeh Party of Iran, a shared framework for dialogue and agreement among progressive left and national forces at the current stage of struggle may include the following fundamental objectives:
Moving toward the establishment of a national-democratic government, with the complete separation of religion from the state—including all governmental and executive institutions, legislation, the judiciary, and all aspects of social planning
A complete halt to neoliberal economic programs in the core sectors of the national economy
Defence of peace, national sovereignty, commitment to Iran’s territorial integrity, and opposition to any form of foreign intervention in Iran’s internal affairs
Freedom for all labour, political, and ideological prisoners
The urgency of the moment dictates that, to save the country from dictatorship, we must immediately join hands and act without delay.
Quoted from “Nameh-ye Mardom” Central Organ of the Tudeh Party of Iran, Issue No. 1251, 12 January 2026.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/01/tudeh-party-of-iran-statements-on-current-crisis-in-iran-demonstrations-and-imperialist-threats.html?m=1Update
>>2645470Why aren't they critically suppqrting the based irgc? Are they imperialists who hate multipolarity bros?
FBI agents searched the home of a Washington Post reporter on Wednesday as part of an investigation into the possible sharing of government secrets.
Searches of a reporter’s home are extremely rare, even in investigations involving classified docs.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/14/us/politics/fbi-washington-post-journalist.html>>2645482Hope he encrypted his computer/phone
hgraf
so heres another interesting stock. unlike hydrosolar which is hydrogen, this one is graphite. Something very crucial to a lot of us industries.
This stock is also currently rising, has possible ties with the us military, and will be put on a major stock exchange this year.
>>2645493hydrogen is a big scam but dont feel bad the japanese fell for the same trick
>>2645495which is why im more sure about hgraf success. Its not hydrogen, its graphite. A company that has a formula for a very pure form of graphite.
This is a lot more success potential than hysr
>>2645496if you want success potential invest in china and hong kong stonks
>>2645490You are an idiot.
There is a small group of Chagossians who were given British citizenship who are claiming this. Just when the British govt finally accepted to recognise Mauritian sovereignty over Chagos, the imperialists propped up some house negros in Britain to claim that Chagos must remain British. I would not be surprised if that headline is from one of the British right-wing tabloids.
The main Chagos groups, who have been fighting for more than half a century, are firmly in the Mauritian anti-imperialist camp.
>>2645500I will consider those stocks later. Im planning to invest in some chinese stocks too
>>2645490The vozhd of the Chagossian movement is OLIVIER BANCOULT and he proudly flies the Mauritian flag.
Your imperialist lackeys will NOT succeed. These willing slaves will sell their own mother for them to gain British citizenship.
Also heres a meme stock
Theres a stock called rnwf. The company claims to have a working fusion reactor. And has been "verified" by a third party, and other legitimate stuff.
The issue is if we trust what they say, their fusion reactor requires he3. The issue is the only way to find he3 is from nuclear weapons programs…..or from moon mining
lmao, (still invested in it a bit just in case the meme company somehow beats my expectations. or at least the hype causes stock to go up)
>>2645511Did you not read what I wrote you moron?
That 'government in exile' has recently been declared a few months ago, just after the decades long struggle of the Chagossians finally made the UK yield.
Do you learn nothing from the pro-imperialist 'gopvernment-in-exiles' propped up routinely to advance US interests? Do you not have a brain you fucking animal?
You did not know CHagos even existed a few months ago and now you will lecture me about my island?
Where was this ugly mongrel Misley Mandarin all this time when the comrades were upholding the Chagossian struggle? Those who presented (and won) our case at the ICJ, at the UN etc?
Only when Mauritius finally achieved a minor symbolic 'win', these slaves, these imperialist asslickers suddenly declare a government in exile which swears allegiance to the UK.
The Chagossian Gusanos will have their skin peeled and molten candle poured in their wounds.
>>2645517>electeddespite all that they voted for him lol. hence the 'tame and servile' comment. also touch sand
>>2645531He was not elected you retard
A small group of Chagossians living in Britain (gusanos) decided on this and 'elected' this ugly man, clearly under the guidance of British imperialists
The majority of Chagossians live in Mauritius and they had no right to vote in this 'election'
The imperialist propaganda jsut wrote 'elected government' and you swallow it whole. You are a fucking moron.
Chagossians, despite being poor fisherman, have struggled for decades relentlessly for their island against the literal US Army. And a fucking chimp like you dare to call them 'tame and servile'. WHat have YOU ever done against imperialism?
A pebble has no right to insult the Mountain.
>The State Department will suspend processing visas for people from dozens of countries, according to a person familiar with the matter, in what marks one of the Trump administration’s most extreme moves in its immigration crackdown.A department memo says the US is freezing visa processing indefinitely for 75 countries, including Brazil and Nigeria, according to the person, who asked not to be identified discussing a document that hasn’t been made public. Citizens from some of the included countries such as Afghanistan, Iran, Russia and Somalia already have little chance of getting a visa. But the move will be a shock for people coming from other nations on the list.
Fox News Digital reported the move earlier Wednesday. The move shuts the door to new travelers to the US for more than a third of the world’s nearly 200 countries, upending work and vacation plans. It comes about five months before the US co-hosts the World Cup when hundreds of thousands of overseas visitors are expected.
The move comes after Trump threatened further visa restrictions after an Afghan national shot two National Guard troops in Washington late last year. He’s also moved to end deportation protections for Somalis amid a broader deportation push in Minnesota, home to thousands of people from the country
“The State Department will use its long-standing authority to deem ineligible potential immigrants who would become a public charge on the United States and exploit the generosity of the American people,” State Department spokesperson Tommy Pigott said in a statement Wednesday.
According to the Fox report, consular officers have been directed to refuse visa applications until screening and vetting procedures are reassessed. The pause goes into effect Jan. 21, it said.
Read More: US to Boost H-1B Vetting Over Speech ‘Censorship’ Concerns
The Trump administration had already imposed far stricter rules on top of a visa-screening process that has for years been among the most stringent in the world. Last year, the administration ordered officers to scrutinize applicants’ social-media profiles for signs of anti-US views
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-14/us-freezes-visa-processing-for-dozens-of-countries-fox-reports >>2645531you chauvinist cockroach
US imperialism is all a joke to you
Bunch of uyghurs being deported and left in misery is all a big joke to you
Just for a few lolz on an imageboard
you know nothing, you are stupid, you take 2 minutes to google shit and parrot imperialist propaganda
this is the animal who thinks he is a 'leftist'
>He was not elected
<he was actually 'elected'
WOW great insight retard
>>2645548Do you not understand that a small group of gusanos 'electing' someone without the majority of Chagossians living in Mauritius participating does not count you retard?
>>2645552>does not countyou're gonna look pretty silly when a neighboring island of yours is renamed to donald j trump
>>2645548That 'govt in exile' is recognised ONLY by the Tories and the Reform Party (UK's far right) btw. And you are parroting imperialist propaganda here
>>2645566you are just a lowlife troll
imperialism is all a joke to you
Imperialism provides for core proles more than socialism ever would
Mods, give chagosposter cookies and milk so he calms down
>>2645575that animal is pushing gusano imperialist propaganda
when faced with the facts, he resorts to trolling about an occupied island with all reisdents expelled without even the right to visit and you want ME to calm down?
be honest, the chagos thing is all jokes to you because we are africans
you herrenvolk are too good to take africans seriously
Let’s be real, why would workers ever work together? Their interests are different if they work in different industries. Even the manufacturing jobs that are supposed to be the nucleus of revolution are now just as isolated and automated as office cubicle jobs. I spent nine months operating my half of the factory floor by myself, it needs three or four people max to put out hundreds of thousands of pounds of steel. Dedollarization is not going to bring jobs back because modern factories only create half a dozen jobs at most, you’re never going to see those megaplants from the late 1800s with hundreds of men working the same place all socializing together again.
>>2645583I thought it was the Indian subcontinent
>>2645511>government in exile.what's with the west doing all of this…
juan guaido
reza pahlavi
sviatlana tsikhanouskaya
holly crap, these people should be execute on sight.
>>2645589Mauritius is part of Africa. We are thus Africans.
Chagos belongs to India.
>>2645583we see you as more Indian-adjacent
>>2645148also the taller you are the higher your chances of cancer
>>2645593the british website which reports on this result even says "about 1000 chagossians around the world voted"
There are approx 10,000-15,000 chagossians. The majority in Mauritius, who are firmly pro-Mauritis anti-British. They are the ones who have been fighting for decades for Chagos. Just when the Labour govt accepted our sovereignty, an 'election' is held among 1000 chagossians living in England, with the Mr Mandarin winning with 96% (!) of the vote. All this recognised only by the Conservatives and Far Right of england. Not even by the Labour PArty and the Greens.
And here, the usapol troll thinks its a great point to 'troll' me with
>>2645600we know americans are illiterate it is fine
The revolutionary proletariat Marx talked about only ever existed in Paris in the 1800s, no one is like that anymore and he assumed those conditions were universal under capitalism when they’re not
Gusanos will be nailed to a lamppost
Their skin will be peeled off
Molten candle will be poured in their wounds
Their eyes gouged out and shoved in their ass
two thirds majority of Mauritius are descended from Indians imported from british india. creoles make up a quarter. definitely Indian-adjacent
>>2645624That doesn’t make them part of the subcontinent, might as well include Guyana and Trinidad
>>2645624You have to put in your pea-sized brain that Mauritians are Mauritian, full stop.
We do not think of your honky Americans as Germans or English or Italians. You are american animals full stop.
>Letter of Imam Khomeini,
>The Great Leader of the Islamic Revolution and Founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran,
>To President Mikhail Gorbachev, Leader of the Soviet Union
In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Your Excellency Mr. Gorbachev1, Chairman of the Presidium of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
With due wishes for the happiness and prosperity of Your Excellency and the people of the Soviet Union.
Since your assumption of office there has been the impression that Your Excellency, in analyzing world political events, particularly those pertaining to the Soviet Union, have found yourself in a new era of reassessment, change, and confrontation; and your boldness and initiative in dealing with the realities of the world is quite likely to bring about changes that would result in upsetting the equations of power dominating the world. I have therefore found it necessary to bring certain matters to your attention.
Even if your new approach and decisions are merely used as a means to overcome the party crisis, and to solve some of the problems confronting your people, your courage in reappraising a school of thought that has for decades enchained the revolutionary youth of the world behind its iron curtain is indeed worthy of praise. If, however, you are considering taking a further step forward, the first thing that will ensure your success is that you re-evaluate your predecessors’ policy of obliterating God and religion from society2, a policy that has no doubt given the heaviest blow to the Soviet people. Rest assured that this is the only way whereby world problems can be dealt with realistically.
Viewing Islam as a remnant of the pre-socialist stage, Marxists took two major approaches to confront it: to wipe out Islam as an alien element from the scene of public life by openly challenging it, and to assimilate Islam into Russian society by Russianizing Muslims. Stalin, the most notorious of all communist leaders, persecuted Muslims on a large scale by banishing certain Muslim peoples collectively to Siberia and Asia Minor. The astonishing number of Russian anti- religious publications distributed in Islamic countries is part of the Soviet government’s universal struggle against Islam. The occupation of Afghanistan was the Soviet Union’s last attempt to penetrate the Islamic world.
Of course it is possible that as a result of wrong economic policies of former communist authorities, the Western world, an illusory heaven, will appear to be fascinating; but the truth lies elsewhere. If you hope, at this juncture, to cut the economic Gordian knots of socialism and communism by appealing to the center of Western capitalism, you will, far from remedying any ill of your society, commit a mistake which those to come will have to erase. For, if Marxism has come to a deadlock in its social and economic policies, capitalism has also bogged down, in this as well as in other respects though in a different form.
Mr. Gorbachev,
Reality must be faced. The main problem confronting your country is not one of private ownership, freedom and economy; your problem is the absence of true faith in God, the very problem that has dragged, or will drag, the West to vulgarism and an impasse. Your main problem is the prolonged and futile war you have waged against God, the source of existence and creation.
Mr. Gorbachev,
It is clear to everybody that from now on communism will only have to be found in the museums of world political history, for Marxism cannot meet any of the real needs of mankind. Marxism is a materialistic ideology and materialism cannot bring humanity out of the crisis caused by a lack of belief in spirituality—the prime affliction of the human society in the East and the West alike.
Mr. Gorbachev,
You may have not in theory turned your back on certain aspects of Marxism—and may continue to profess your heartfelt loyalty to it in interviews—but you know that, in practice, the reality is not so. The leader of China3 struck the first blow to communism and you have
struck the second and, apparently, final blow. Today we have no such thing as communism in the world.
I earnestly call on you, however, not to get trapped, while tearing down the walls of Marxist illusions, in the prison of the West and the Great Satan.4 I hope you will attain the honor of removing the decayed layers of 70-year communist aberration from the face of history and of your country. Today those allies of yours that are genuinely concerned about their homelands and people are no longer willing to sacrifice their subterranean and surface resources to keep alive the myth of the success of communism—an ideology whose din of collapse has already reached the ears of their children.
Mr. Gorbachev,
When after 70 years the call, “Allah is Great” and the testimony to the prophethood of the Seal of the Prophets, Muhammad (peace be upon him and his posterity) were heard from the minarets of the mosques in some of your Republics, all the followers of the pure Muhammadan Islam were moved to tears out of ecstasy.
Therefore, I have found it necessary to remind you to reflect once again on the materialistic and theistic worldviews. Materialists consider sense to be the sole criterion of knowledge and are of the opinion that whatever cannot be known through the senses falls outside the realm of knowledge. They identify existence with matter and consider as nonexistent anything that has no material body. Inevitably, they regard the world of the unseen—God Almighty, Divine Revelation, Prophethood, and the Resurrection—as mere fiction.
On the other hand, theists consider both sense and reason to be the criteria of knowledge, and maintain that whatever can be known through reason lies within the realm of knowledge, although it is not perceptible. To theists, therefore, existence is inclusive of both the unseen and the manifest. For a thing to exist it is not necessary to have a material body. In the same way that a material thing depends on an incorporeal thing,5 sensory perception is dependent on rational perception.6
The Holy Qur’an reprobates the fundamentals of materialistic thought and, addressing those who say:
“We shall never believe in thee until we see God manifestly,”7
proclaims:
“Vision comprehends Him not, and He comprehends all vision; and He is the Knower of subtleties, the Aware.”8
I should not like to present here Qur’anic arguments concerning Divine Revelation, Prophethood and the Resurrection which from your point of view are debatable. In fact, I do not wish to entangle you in the twists and turns of philosophical arguments, particularly those of Islamic philosophy. I will content myself by presenting one or two simple, intuitive examples of which even politicians can avail themselves.
It is self-evident that matter, whatever its nature, has no awareness of self. Consider a stone statue: each side is ignorant of the other side. Whereas human beings and animals clearly observe and are aware of their surroundings. They know where they are and are aware of what goes on around them. There must be, then, an element in men and animals that transcends matter and is separate from it, living beyond the life of matter.
Intrinsically, man seeks to attain absolute perfection. He strives, as you well know, for absolute power over the world; he is not attached to any power that is defective. If he has the entire world at his command, he naturally feels inclined to have command of another world once he is informed of its existence. No matter how learned a person may be if he learns of some other branch of knowledge, he naturally feels inclined to attain mastery of that branch of knowledge as well.
Therefore, there must be some Absolute Power and Absolute Knowledge to which man is attached. It is God we all seek although we may not be aware of it. Man strives to attain Absolute Truth, so that he may be annihilated in God. Basically, the desire for eternal life that is inherent in every individual is proof of the existence of an Eternal World to which destruction cannot find its way.
Should Your Excellency desire further information on these matters, you may command those scholars of yours who are well-versed in this field to study, in addition to the works of Western philosophers, the writings of Peripatetic philosophers9, al-Farabi10 and Avicenna,11
peace be upon them. It will then become clear that the law of causation on which all knowledge depends is a rational, not sensible law. Likewise, perception of general laws and concepts on which all reasoning rests is reached not by means of sensory experience but through rational argument.12 Your scholars may further refer to the Ishraqi13 theosophy of Suhrawardi,14 and explain to you that the flesh, as well as any other material thing, is in need of Pure Light which has no material entity, that man’s witnessing of his own truth does not take place by means of any sense organ.15 You may also have the scholars familiarize themselves with Transcendental philosophy16 of Mulla Sadra 17(may Allah be pleased with him and resurrect him with the prophets and the pious), so that it may become clear that the nature of knowledge is different from the nature of matter and that intellect, far removed from matter, cannot be restricted by the laws governing matter.
I won’t tire you further by mentioning the works of mystics, in particular Muhyi’d-Din ibn al-‘Arabi.18 If you wish to make yourself acquainted with the doctrines of this celebrated mystic, send a number of your brilliant scholars, who are well-versed in this field, to Qum19 so that, by reliance on God, they may, after a couple of years, glimpse the depth of the delicate stages of gnosis,20 which will be impossible for them to acquire without making such a journey.
Mr. Gorbachev,
After mentioning these problems and preliminary points, let me call on you to study Islam earnestly, not because Islam and the Muslims may need you but because Islam has exalted universal values which can bring comfort and salvation to all nations and remove the basic problems of mankind. A true understanding of Islam may forever release you from the problem of Afghanistan21 and other similar involvements. We treat Muslims of the world as Muslims of our own country and will ever share in their destiny.
By granting certain liberties to some of your Republics in matters pertaining to religious practices, you have shown that you no longer consider religion as the “opium of the people.”22 Indeed, how can Islam be the opium of the people—the religion that has made Iranians as firm as a mountain against superpowers? Is the religion that seeks the administration of justice in the world and man’s freedom from material and spiritual shackles, the opium of the people? Only that religion is the opium of the people that causes the material and spiritual resources of Islamic and non-Islamic countries to pass into the clutches of super and lesser powers and that preaches that religion is separate from politics. This, however, cannot be called a true religion; it is what our people call “an American religion.”
In conclusion, I declare outright that the Islamic Republic of Iran as the greatest and most powerful base of the Islamic world can easily fill the vacuum of religious faith in your society. In any case, our country, as in the past, honors good neighborhood and bilateral relations.
Peace be upon those who follow the guidance.23
Ruhullah al-Musawi al-Khomeini
67/10/11 AHS
[January 1, 1989
Old letter
>>2645630what makes them part of the subcontinent is how close they are to each other. chagos islands are even on the indian tectonic plate
>>2645490Chagos already named an island after Joe Biden, so this wouldn't be unexpected!!
>>2645652another faggot who gets sadistic pleasure from the fact his rapist army is occupying Afrikan lands after expelling all the natives
you will end up bleeding alone on the pavement after your fentanyl dealer stabs you
>>2645656If you were serious about any of this you would be plotting the new 9/11 or Sandy Hook or something
>>2645517>you will lecture me about MY island?Comrade Chagos, don't fall to the dark side by adopting their speech/theory, namely "standpoint" idiocy.
I beg you you do self-crit on this matter. Do not defend yourself with burger radlib "theoretical" tools (idpol).
Thank u for ur attemtption 4 deeze nuts matter
>>2645659yeah sure, retarded adventurism will yield great results
we will continue the diplomatic struggle
we almost got a small win before these gusano house negros threw a wrench
but we will deal with them in due time
they will regret
>>2645661I need weapons. I have to kill atleast 7 americans this year. I cannot hold the fire inside me anymore.
>>2645542>this is the animal who thinks he is a 'leftist'That is the westoid condition, yes.
>>2645663If we’re all feral and sadistic there’s no point in dialogue or diplomacy and every school shooting and overdose is progressive
chagosposter finna set one foot in alaska and get straight fried like a strip of bacon from laseranons DIY energy weapons
>>2645620>Molten candle will be poured in their woundsSalt is proven to be superior
>>2645672>be diplomatic and friendly to bad faith trolls who make light of US imperialism fucking you in the assfuck off
>>2645656Are you denying the fact that Chagos named an island after Joe Biden?
>>2645678Get off the internet, you’re driving yourself manic
>>2645678Try reading Lenin and touching sand
>>2645681He shouldn't. Chagos poster is the best thing that happened to USApol in 2 years
>>2645688Fuck the thread, there’s a frustrated human being that needs help
Mods permaban chagos for his mental health
>>2645638>The main problem confronting your country is not one of private ownership, freedom and economy; your problem is the absence of true faith in God, the very problem that has dragged, or will drag, the West to vulgarism and an impasse.the main problem the USSR faced, and it can be blamed on Lenin and Stalin, who truly believed that the west would run into communism, was its legal foundation.
it was supposed to be that the the Union was the prime authority:
>ARTICLE 20. In the event of a discrepancy between a law of a Union Republic and an all-Union law, the all-Union law prevails.https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1936/12/05.htmbut 'muh dictators', and founding fathers, gave absolute freedom to secede
>ARTICLE 17. To every Union Republic is reserved the right freely to secede from the U.S.S.R.https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1936/12/05.htmwhen I think about it, it boils my blood. Poor naive Lenin. Poor naive Stalin.
and the worst part is, Stalin had the chance to reform the law:
>To delete from the Constitution the article providing for the right of free secession from the U.S.S.R. would be to violate the voluntary character of this union. Can we agree to this step? I think that we cannot and should not agree to it. It is said that there is not a single republic in the U.S.S.R. that would want to secede from the U.S.S.R., and that therefore Article 17 is of no practical importance.
>It is, of course, true that there is not a single republic that would want to secede from the U.S.S.R.
>But this does not in the least mean that we should not fix in the Constitution the right of Union Republics freely to secede from the U.S.S.R. In the U.S.S.R. there is not a single Union Republic that would want to subjugate another Union Republic. But this does not in the least mean that we ought to delete from the Constitution of the U.S.S.R. the article dealing with the equality of rights of the Union Republicshttps://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1936/11/25.htmwhen I think about it, it boils my blood. Poor naive Lenin. Poor naive Stalin.
>>2645509>The company claims to have a working fusion reactorfusion energy reactors exist and work well, the problem is it costs more energy to run than it produces. TBH only state actors have the will and resources to get it to where it actually makes energy profitably. i hope you make a boatload of money though
>>2645687try understanding Lenin you moron
I touch sand plenty, I'd ask you to do the same but you'll probably touch asbestos in your shithole
>>2645680St Brandon (which is part of the Republic of Mauritius, not Chagos Archipelagos) is named after the patron saint of Sailors. Not your pedo president.
>>2645681>boo hoo how dare you oppose pro-imperialist trolls, how dare you be mean towards le wholesome amerikkkans>>2645693with your creepy cartoons you'll sooner be GenSec of Epstein Island, not Turtle Island
>>2645708Yeah sure, let's pamper the poster who is intentionally peddling right-wing British lies in service of imperialism, who calls the Chagossians 'servile and tame' but let's ban the one Chagossian who pushes back. Your existence is in service of imperialism. Every breath you take is complicit in killing and raping innocents.
>>2645638
>I should not like to present here Qur’anic arguments concerning Divine Revelation, Prophethood and the Resurrection which from your point of view are debatable. In fact, I do not wish to entangle you in the twists and turns of philosophical arguments, particularly those of Islamic philosophy. I will content myself by presenting one or two simple, intuitive examples of which even politicians can avail themselves.
>It is self-evident that matter, whatever its nature, has no awareness of self. Consider a stone statue: each side is ignorant of the other side. Whereas human beings and animals clearly observe and are aware of their surroundings. They know where they are and are aware of what goes on around them. There must be, then, an element in men and animals that transcends matter and is separate from it, living beyond the life of matter.From an atheist and especially a dialectical materialist standpoint, Khomeini’s argument here is a classic example of Dualistic reasoning and a category error. He is mistaking properties that emerge from complex organization of matter and energy for evidence not merely of a non-material substance, but of God, religion, the religion of Islam specifically, his particular interpretation of Islam even more specifically, and all the other assumptions which flow from it. How does one even begin to combat such confusion, when one malformed "point" is used to justify all sorts of assumptions?
Khomeini’s argument runs roughly as follows:
>1. Matter (e.g., a stone statue) has no awareness. (correct)>2. Humans and animals do have awareness. (correct)>3. Therefore, awareness must come from something non-material that “transcends” matter. (wrong)Dialectical materialists reject the jump from 1 and 2 (correct) to 3 (wrong).
The materialist reply?
Emergence from matter, not ill defined philosophical idealist
transcendence over itA dialectical materialist would argue that comparing a stone statue to a human being is misleading. A stone is simple, inert matter with minimal internal organization. A brain is highly organized, dynamic matter, structured through billions of neurons, feedback loops, and electrochemical processes. The key point: Consciousness is
not a property of matter “in general,” but of matter
organized in specific, highly complex ways.Here is how an emergent property like "wetness" works: Wetness is not found in individual hydrogen or oxygen atoms, but emerges from their interaction. The same can be observe with life: Life is not found in carbon atoms, but emerges from biochemical organization. Consciousness is not found in stones, but emerges from nervous systems.
Dialectical materialism emphasizes emergence through contradiction and development. Matter develops qualitatively new properties as it becomes more complex. New levels (chemistry to biology to cognition) are not reducible to simple components, yet remain fully material.
There is an Empirical grounding as well in the dependence of the mind on the brain. When the brain is damaged, the mind is damaged. When the brain dies, the mind dies. Brain injury alters or destroys consciousness. Drugs and chemicals reliably modify perception, mood, and self-awareness. Consciousness disappears under anesthesia and returns when brain activity resumes. From this perspective, if consciousness were a non-material entity “living beyond matter,” its functioning would not be so tightly bound to physical brain states. The dependency strongly suggests identity or supervenience, not separation.
Khomeini’s argument presupposes substance dualism: matter vs. a non-material soul. Dialectical materialism rejects this as metaphysically unnecessary, historically rooted in pre-scientific explanations, and incapable of explaining how a non-material entity interacts with matter without invoking mystery.
Humans do “transcend” stones, but historically and structurally, not
metaphysically. This transcendence arises from evolution, social labor, language, collective practice.
Capiche?
>>2645720wow he's taller than I thought he'd be
>>2645719>St Brandon (which is part of the Republic of Mauritius, not Chagos Archipelagos) is named after the patron saint of Sailors. Not your pedo president. You really need to chill the fuck out and embrace every chagos meme, my man.
t. pro-Chagos poster
>>2645711Once again, the revisionist leadership in the CPSU illegally and undemocratically dissolved the USSR while referendums clearly showed a majority in each republic wanted to stay. So respect for national sovereignty had little do with it. This "anti-sovereignty" narrative which calls itself "anti-nationalist" falls on its face when you consider that. Part of internationalism is respect for sovereignty.
Beach tourist status?
>>2645612>>2645490hold on I don't get it.
>the british website which reports on this result even says "about 1000 chagossians around the world voted"so the government in exile was voted in the UK, but not on the islands?
what's the US position on all of this? obviously naming on of the tens of islands as joe biden implies they are not in favor of tarnsfer the sovereignty to Mauritius.
>>2645719Internet dialogue of any kind is not meaningful opposition to imperialism, the internet itself is imperialist, get offline if you want to meaningfully oppose American imperialism
>>2645737Status: unkilled.
Future status: on the list.
>>2645736eh, the CPSU tried to revert the situation doing the August coup.
>>2645586clarify what you mean by work together. to foment broad political change maybe? to protest unfair labor practices? to ensure consequences for abusive and harmful legislation? you must be joking
>Their interests are different if they work in different industries.and what are their interests meant to be in this sentence?
>you’re never going to see those megaplants from the late 1800s with hundreds of men working the same place all socializing together againwell yeah we let our most profitable businesses take all their manufacturing overseas, what do you expect? the closest thing you will get in a practical sense is probably something like amazon, just moving, delivering, inventorying various products which were ultimately made overseas.
and on the topic of steel or primary metal manufacturing specifically, just to get some sources/reference points in the mix
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47107#fn3>In 2021, three companies operated integrated steel mills in 11 U.S. locations, accounting for approximately 29% of domestic steel output. The remaining 71% of domestic steel production came from 101 mini-mills operated by 50 companieshttps://www.usgs.gov/media/files/iron-and-steel-historical-statistics-data-series-140>picrelhttps://www.bls.gov/oes/2023/may/naics3_331000.htm>NAICS 331000 - Primary Metal Manufacturing>>All occupations - 370,690 >CAIR Opposes Latest March to War with Iran for Israel’s Benefit, Says Iranian People Must Determine Their Future Without Internal Oppression or Foreign InterferenceThe Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation’s largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, today expressed strong opposition to the latest demands by neoconservatives and other supporters of the Israeli government for the Trump administration to launch a regime change war against Iran under the false pretense of protecting protesters, who must be able to guide their future without foreign interference or internal oppression.
CAIR expressed support for the right of Iranians to peacefully protest, condemned attacks on peaceful protesters, and condemned violent attacks by rioters, including arson attacks on mosques and desecrations of the Quran.
CAIR also called for the Trump administration to reenter into negotiations with Iran to reach a lasting compromise regarding its civilian nuclear program and U.S. economic sanctions.
In a statement, CAIR said:
“The Iranian people must be able to determine their own future without internal oppression or foreign interference, including interference by the United States and the Israeli government. That’s why we strongly oppose demands for the United States to launch another illegal attack on Iran for Israel’s benefit, this time under the false pretense of protecting protesters.
“This latest march to war with Iran has nothing to do with protecting Iranian protesters and everything to do with toppling an adversary of the Israeli government. The neoconservatives and other supporters of the Israeli government pushing for a U.S. attack on Iran know that it would likely trigger an Iranian attack on U.S. bases in the region, which could lead to a full-blown regime change war that could throw the region into chaos, all for the benefit of the Israeli government.
“Our government lacks credibility to express support for freedom in Iran because of our ongoing support for dictators across the world, including in the Middle East, and our history of launching coups to overthrow democratically-elected governments, including Iran’s democratically-elected leader in the 1950s.
“If the Trump administration cares about the lives of protesters and other civilians, it would have held the Israeli government accountable for murdering an American citizen while she peacefully protested in the West Bank last year and it would stop funding the Israeli government as it slaughters the people of Gaza on a daily basis.”
“What we need in our world today is moral consistency in upholding international law.
“The United States should peacefully support the human rights of all people in the region, including the Palestinian people suffering under Israeli occupation and Arab populations living under unjust dictatorships run by U.S. allies.
“At the same time, the Iranian government should meet the Iranian people’s legitimate demands for change and support freedom instead of oppression for others in the region, including the Syrian people it helped oppress through its backing of the Assad regime.
CAIR also called on the Trump administration to reenter the negotiations with the Iranian government that ended when Israel attacked the country last summer, saying:
“Even though signatories to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty have the right to enrich uranium for civilian purposes, even though U.S. intelligence has confirmed that Iran was not and is not pursuing a nuclear weapon, and even though Israel maintains a real rogue nuclear weapons program that should face sanctions, a compromise could entail Iran voluntarily giving up its right to enrich the uranium for its civilian nuclear program for some long period of time in exchange for the Trump administration lifting the sanctions that have devastated Iran’s economy and harmed the Iranian people.
“The alternative to reasonable compromise between the United States and Iran–and moral consistency in upholding international law–is more death, destruction, oppression and instability, egged on by the Israeli government. Our nation and the world must not fall into this trap again.”
Before the 12-day U.S.-Israel war against Iran last summer, CAIR called on President Trump to avert an “unnecessary and disastrous” all-out U.S. war with Iran by dropping Israel’s “poison pill” zero enrichment demand meant to doom nuclear negotiations.
CAIR issued a statement warning President Trump that the Netanyahu government’s insistence that the U.S. adopt a “zero enrichment” demand in negotiations was meant to scuttle the talks and lead to war, which is exactly what happened.
CAIR also condemned Israel’s unilateral offensive strikes on Iran and called on the Trump administration to immediately halt all U.S. weapons transfers and military aid to the Netanyahu government.
https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-opposes-latest-march-to-war-with-iran-for-israels-benefit-says-iranian-people-must-determine-their-future-without-internal-oppression-or-foreign-interference/ >>2645738>on the islandsNo chagossian or Mauritian has the right to set foot on the islands. Not even for a brief visit. Only the US army base is there. They deported the whole population in the 60s and burned down their huts.
Most of the Chagossians since then live in Mauritius. A minority got British citizenship and live in the UK. The UK conservatives held 'elections' among the pro-UK gusanos there, without any basis in international law or without any consultation with chagossians in Mauritius or the Mauritian govt. Shocker, the pro-UK candidate won with 96% of the vote. Only the Conservatives and Far-Right of the UK recognise this ugly man as the 'First Minister of the Government-in-Exile of Chagos', who claims that (i) the USA must reject Mauritius's sovereignty over Chagos, (ii) a planned financial compensation from the UK to MAuritius must be cancelled.
Mind you, there have been Chagossian groups fighting in the International Court of Justice, in the UN for many decades. The ICJ and the UN always ruled in our favour, but the USA-UK always rejected these verdicts. When the UK finally accepted, this sham of 'govt in exile' is propped up.
This should be clear to any communist what is happening. But I guess trolling is more important on 'leftypol'.
>>2645733I appreciate your support, comrade but anti-imperialism is not a meme for the Chagossian Marxist-Leninist. Maybe among other nationalities, I would gladly joke around, but not among perfidious Yankees. Never!
>>2645650Chagos is part of the Republic of Mauritius and Mauritius is part of Africa, case closed.
>>2644828>mfw when first worldists unicritically accept fox news brainrot like there parentsnot suprised lmao
>>2645764You’re in a hostile space designed by the same military that made you a refugee to drive you insane, you’re not talking to real people but LLM chatbots, unlike small arms or artillery you can’t turn the internet around on the imperialists, that’s how they designed it.
>>2644910ts nothing new its just burgers reinventing all the issues with social democracy
>>2645771he knows he just likes to troll
>>2645769mauritius is actually apart of chagos and chagos is a part of India sooo
>>2645761oh, alright. I get it now.
I think all communist in the west should fervently kill people on the west acting as governments in exile, like the ones I mentioned, and the Chagossian government in exile.
>>2645776What’s the point of trolling when all communication is with LLMs?
>>2645786the audience and lurkers get trolled not the respondee
>>2645788Again, those are all LLMs
>>2645784Agree. Total Gusano Death.
>>2645776your head is so deep in the ass of imperialism that when you finally see an Anti-Imperialist poster, you think he must be surely trolling
Just delete the website
>>2645790leftypol lurkers are all chatbots? kinda makes sense actually
>>2645794Anti imperialist poster is an oxymoron, every post and piece of data you feed this machine helps train LLMs that drive you stupid and insane
>>2645755Coal workers and renewable energy workers will never coordinate and strike together because their industries are in direct conflict for example
>Trump feels obligated to take action on Iran as administration weighs risks of retaliation - CNNPresident Donald Trump, facing a red line of his own making in Iran, increasingly believes he must take decisive action against the regime amid a violent and deadly crackdown on protesters, according to officials familiar with the matter.
Top Trump administration officials met Tuesday to further refine a set of options for the president. Trump, who joined the two-hour-plus meeting after landing back in Washington from a trip to Michigan, was also briefed on the latest death toll figures in Iran and US expectations for how the regime’s brutal crackdown might proceed, including the prospect of executions. He was shown video from the ground in Iran as part of the briefing, a person familiar with the meeting said.
In recent days, the president’s national security team has been split on whether to move forward with a kinetic strike, a source familiar with the discussions said. US officials insisted any such military move would not include boots on the ground and said the administration does not want protracted military involvement in Iran.
One option before the president is a strike on facilities related to Iran’s security services, which have been responsible for the crackdown on protesters, according to people familiar with the matter.
As they deliberate and weigh options, officials have worked to assess the various risks involved with each, including the possibility of an air strike mission going awry or prompting an outsized Iranian response. Officials also hope to avoid any broad destabilization in the region should Iran’s regime collapse.
Trump has repeatedly been threatening military action against the Iranian government for using deadly force against protesters, and he now feels obligated to follow through, according to officials. He is mindful of previous presidents who he believes failed to enforce red lines. Those include former President Barack Obama, who decided not to strike in Syria after its use of chemical weapons in 2013.
“Part of it is that he has now set a red line, and he feels he needs to do something,” a source familiar with the talks told CNN, adding that the president is almost certainly going to act. The question that remains, they added, is what type of action he ultimately lands on.
A key calculation in the decision-making process is whether the benefits of military action outweigh potential retaliation from Tehran, which has insisted it will target American assets in the Middle East if the US strikes.
Recent US intelligence reports indicate Iran is preparing options to target American bases in the Middle East, including those in Iraq and Syria, if Trump carries out military strikes, according to a US official and another source familiar with the matter.
There are also indications that the Iranian regime was surprised by the size of the protests and is currently trying to balance controlling the protesters with not giving foreign governments a reason to intervene — in part by restricting funerals for those who have been killed and cutting off internet access inside the country, the US official added.
Trump shrugged off concerns about retaliation on Tuesday, telling reporters: “Iran said that the last time I blew them up with the nuclear capability, which they don’t have any longer … They better behave.”
Still, some personnel at the United States’ largest military base in the Middle East have been urged to leave, a US official told CNN on Wednesday, as Trump weighs action. The official described the directive to some personnel to leave Al-Udeid Air Base in Qatar as a “precaution” given current tensions in the region.
The base was targeted by Iran in June after the US struck its nuclear facilities. Now, as Trump again mulls potential strikes on Iran, the base — which is home to around 10,000 American troops — could become a target once again.
Trump said late Tuesday afternoon, ahead of meeting with his national security officials, he had a good idea of what action he might take.
“I know exactly what it would be. We have to make a decision, but I can’t be, obviously, I can’t be telling you,” he told reporters upon his return from Michigan, where he toured a Ford factory and addressed the Detroit Economic Club.
Trump has been receiving updated lists of options for action in Iran since last week. Officials insisted that key principals in meetings on Iran, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Vice President JD Vance, have been careful not to pressure Trump into making a certain decision. They instead have finalized a series of potential options, as well as the pros and cons of each, for the president to consider.
Trump also continues to mull other options that stop short of firing a missile into Iran, like a cyberattack or new sanctions.
He has also pressed Elon Musk, his onetime government efficiency guru who owns the satellite internet service Starlink, to bolster connectivity in the country amid the regime’s information blackout. Starlink is now providing free internet access to users in Iran, according to a tech expert in touch with Iranian Starlink users.
“Iran is on my mind, when I see the kind of death that is happening over there,” Trump told reporters at Joint Base Andrews as he was preparing to go to the meeting at the White House.
Cabinet-level national security officials were seen arriving as the sessions, known as a “principals” meeting of the National Security Council, got underway Tuesday afternoon. The officials included Vance, Rubio, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine and Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard.
In recent days, the president had suggested there may be a diplomatic opening with Tehran. But he abruptly reversed course Tuesday morning, saying he was calling off any meetings with regime figures until the crackdown on protests ends.
Some of Trump’s advisers had warned that conciliatory messages from Iran’s foreign minister received by Trump’s foreign envoy Steve Witkoff were simply an attempt to stave off an attack.
Inside the national security meetings in recent days, several officials have argued that diplomacy is a futile exercise when it comes to Iran, the officials said. Throughout his first six months in office, Trump tried unsuccessfully to negotiate a new nuclear deal with Iran before eventually ordering US military strikes on its nuclear facilities over the summer.
There’s also a belief inside the administration that no one has the authority to speak on behalf of the Ayatollah, who is the actual decision maker, making diplomacy a more difficult feat, the officials said.
Meanwhile, three US-allied Gulf Arab nations — Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Oman — have launched behind-the-scenes diplomatic efforts to prevent US military action on Iran, concerned it could have wide-ranging consequences for the Middle East, a regional official with knowledge of the matter told CNN.
“Any military escalation will have consequences for the wider region, including its security and economy,” the official said.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/14/politics/trump-iran-action-retaliationUpdate
>>2645264>>2645263I always interpreted it as "Only siths do ultimatums", it makes more sense that way.
>>2645713>TBH only state actors have the will and resources to get it to where it actually makes energy profitablythats the worrying part, the company is a private enterprise.
> i hope you make a boatload of money thoughthank you
Special Envoy Steve Witkoff
Today, on behalf of President Trump, we are announcing the launch of Phase Two of the President’s 20-Point Plan to End the Gaza Conflict, moving from ceasefire to demilitarization, technocratic governance, and reconstruction.
Phase Two establishes a transitional technocratic Palestinian administration in Gaza, the National Committee for the Administration of Gaza (NCAG), and begins the full demilitarization and reconstruction of Gaza, primarily the disarmament of all unauthorized personnel. The US expects Hamas to comply fully with its obligations, including the immediate return of the final deceased hostage. Failure to do so will bring serious consequences.
Importantly, Phase One delivered historic humanitarian aid, maintained the ceasefire, returned all living hostages and the remains of twenty-seven of the twenty-eight deceased hostages. We are deeply grateful to Egypt, Turkey, and Qatar for their indispensable mediation efforts that made all progress to date possible.
https://xcancel.com/SEPeaceMissions>>2645839What the fuck did Cape Verde ever do?
>>2645839Half of these countries host US military bases
>>2645839>BurmaSo Myanmar is gucci then?
>>2645840technocracybros…
>>2645823Surely any intervention can only be beneficial to the regime? It would validate the idea that external forces are behind the protests and encourage the people to get in line to face the threat. Especially given historical situation that produced the current government and the naked imperialism Trump has been engaging in? Are they just stupid?
>>2645879someone pull up the right-wing BBC infographics
>>2645839imagine freezing Syria, leeel.
>kosovoholly smokes.
what's the reasoning behind? smells like: 'we are banning non-whites to come in to our sacred land' o algo.
>>2645914Pretty much, you’ll never be good enough for them no matter how servile you are, I hope Jamaicans burn the US base on the island for this
>>2645914>what's the reasoning behind?Trump just chose every country that has a muslim majority. Kosovars = majority muslim = "dey hate us for our freedum" = BANNED
>>2645926Famously muslim Jamaica and Burma
On second thought it would be really funny if Trump thought Rastas were muslim
Denmark and greenland foreign ministers meeting at white house now. Curious to see if trump comments with his typical "very productive and helpful" thing on social media or if he doubles down on needing the island at all costs
>>2645932they are bending the knee. both knees. they're are going to give trump a sloppy blowjob.
>>2645929>>2645931I mean Myanmar was in the news because of the Rohingya muslims. As for Jamaica, well, I just assumed he was adding every non-white country on the American continent to the list by default.
>>2645936That was in 2015 though, do you really think he or any other American remembers that?
>>2645932>>2645934Would it be a hopium overdose if I think this has the potential to lead to an independent, Inuit, Greenland being established just under the "protection" and influence of the US?
>>2645939Absolutely, Puerto Rico has three times the population of several US states but they keep the colonial commonwealth system, do you think they’ll let 50,000 inuit people (that Trump probably calls eskimos) decide their fates? Fuck no
>>2645926funny enough, they don't ban UAE/Saudi Arabia lmao for oilbvious reasons.
>>2645932>>2645934Well they're going to station more troops in Greenland so say what you will about Europoors but they seem to have drawn a hard red line here
We could actually get nuclear war and the end of human civilization over a frozen island, frankly I feel blessed to live in such exciting times
>>2645944Imagine being one of the inuit, must feel like being history’s main character
>>2645944>Well they're going to station more troops in Greenland so say what you will about Europoors but they seem to have drawn a hard red line hereSource? Not that I don't believe you I just wanna read more on what happened because It's crazy that euros are actually doing <<SOMETHING>> other than cucking out
>>2645942 (me)
nor Qatar, nor Q8.
hey hold on, the world cup is this year
Won't somebody please think of the WORLD CUP?
>>2645828No one in the EU will lift a finger to oppose American occupation of Greenland. They are your vassals.
vassals would've given greenland to trump the first time he asked in 2019 silly sandposter
>>2645955The thing about vassals is they’re like mercenaries, it’s all transactional, they can switch to being Russian or Chinese vassals anytime they like.
>>2645944>>2645949>>2645510that's not holding up trumpedo's tirade.
>>2645956That's not how it works, specially not with conceited Europeans, naive Yank
>>2645961vassalage is coerced by the threat of violence
>>2645965You need a carrot to go with the stick
>>2645962Drumpto can say whatever he likes, but actions speak louder than words. And gunfire speaks louder than actions. For all we know Trump could cuck out entirely or they set up some agreement that lets America station a small garrison there and Trump will claim it a victory while Denmark gets to keep their ice rock. Everyone wins and nobody dies.
>>2645964>nuh uhsolid rebuttal
>>2645971Yes you do, especially when China is becoming a more attractive option every day
>>2645975coercion famously doesn't require consent or allow for choice
>>2645975you are so naive
>>2645980I don’t expect anything from the Euro bourgeois who have all their investments in the US stock market
>>2645728>Khomeini’s argument runs roughly as follows:>>1. Matter (e.g., a stone statue) has no awareness. (correct)
>>2. Humans and animals do have awareness. (correct)
>>3. Therefore, awareness must come from something non-material that “transcends” matter. (wrong)
>>2645991/pol/ really turned everything cringe
>>2645991Sorry, I gotta go back in time a destroy the internet.
>>2645961if anyone here actually read Lenin they'd understand the era of lasting peace between imperialists is a kautskyist myth and financial capital will inevitably go to blows over spheres of influence and export markets especially in an world where rising communist China is competing for both
>>2645991grok, replace the left side with donald trump sucking netanyahu's cock while fat wall-e people mill around in the background with sodas and burgers, and replace the right side with a golden utopia where marx, engels, lenin, and stalin look down from "heaven"
>>2646010I find it kinda funny that a lot of people in this site have never read theory and instead have learned some sort of watered down version based on the posts of the people that have actually read (at least SOME) theory
>>2645991A public lashing for all these social media interns after all is said and done.
>>2645969taco is emboldened with Maduro's kidnap. he thinks he can't be a taco.
>>2646009correct. therefore the threat of them flipping to the PRC does not exist
>>2645991grok erase the country that has supported and committed numerous genocides.
I think I'd take a lot but the possibility of euros making a strong-hard pivot towards China is there. Dengism is entirely built on exploiting the worst tendencies of capitalism which happen to be on full display as of right now.
>>2646018>I find it kinda funny that a lot of people in this site have never read theory and instead have learned some sort of watered down version based on the posts of the people that have actually read (at least SOME) theorythat's literally how it's supposed to work. the vanguard does Organization, Education, and Agitation. Education is the process of actually teaching people real Communism. But Agitation is the process where you get people riled up without caring whether their understanding of theory is "perfect." Both are useful parts of struggle. Organizing is preparing people for actual militant class struggle where you kill or die.
Lenin riled up the peasants against the kulaks without caring whether they understood "theory." But the proletarian vanguard party needs to have a non-vulgarized understanding of theory, which is why the party has to be purged of vulgarizers, opportunists, revisionists, and idealists.
>>2646018I don’t find it funny. More depressing if anything because I have to read something like this or worse just about everyday:
>>2646031 >>2645940Republicans will go to 85% approval of military force immediately after the first deployment
>>2646065fuhrer trump will purge them from the party
>>2646065Lisa is a fence sitter.
>>2646058>More depressing if anything because I have to read something like this or worse just about everyday:Actually quote what I said and say why it's wrong if you're capable.
>US to suspend immigrant visa processing for 75 nations, State Department saysThe full list of countries comprises of Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Antigua and Barbuda, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Bhutan, Bosnia, Brazil, Burma, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Colombia, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Dominica, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Nepal, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, Republic of the Congo, Russia, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Uruguay, Uzbekistan and Yemen.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-suspend-visa-processing-75-nations-next-week-fox-news-reports-2026-01-14/ >>2646010>>2646018for the millionth time, this holds true for independent imperialists, like the French, ENglish, German, American imperialists were 100 years ago.
Post-ww2: death of germany, gradual dismantlement of English and French imperialism, all 3 subsumed into American imperialism and act as lieutnants of American imperialism
You read Lenin, very good! You must now understand Lenin.
Trump is Nicky
Vance is Nikolaevich
Noem is Kornilov
Miller is Alex
RFK is Rasputin
Mamdani is Kerensky
MPLS is Kronstadt
>>2645503>Mauritian sovereignty over Chagos>The main Chagos groups, who have been fighting for more than half a century, are firmly in the Mauritian anti-imperialist camp.Mauritius is imperialist over the Chagos. That isn't bad btw
>>2645736>Part of internationalism is respect for sovereignty.Is that's why China made Tibet officially part of China instead of an SSR?
>>2646163Yeah but the French are protesting age of consent laws
>>2646167The French protest everything so what?
You could probably just straight up do manifest destiny ethnic cleansing of Latin America and replace them with low autism score, downwardly mobile middle class whites doing everything west bank settlers do
>>2646161And people will still seriously try to claim that this guy is more anti-imperialist than a poster who thinks the Ayatollah killing communists was bad
>>2646176Killing people in the old world is yucky and jewish, killing people in the new world is based and trad an homesteading and based annnnnnn
>>2646184There’s no alternative
>>26461611600 thumbs down and 148 thumbs up lmao
>>2646187manifest destiny
money-fist entropy
lenin gonna sweep
all the porkies to
the dustbinny
>>2646188>>2646189Where does Marx say you need a vanguard party? Point to his words.
>>2645839Bosnia, Albania and Kosovo…. it is time.
>>2646175Burgeroids would probably develop tropical madness like European colonials used to
>>2646225It's one of many structural flaws in the Yakubian brainpan
>>2646221We’re already crazy as is, recreating Aguirre in real life would be an improvement, especially if it means getting shot by the ELN
>>2646204you were asked why anon
>>2646031is wrong. you couldn't actually say why he said was wrong. you simply quoted two words "vanguard party" and ignored everything else he said. and now your cope is to appeal to the authority of Marx, in order to defeat Lenin. That isn't an argument. Actually you're not even doing that much. You're asking others to do the research for you. You're saying, essentially "unless you can find Marx saying vanguard parties are necessary, Lenin is wrong, and by extension anon's post"
>>2646031Let's actually read anon's post. he begins by quoting another anon.
>I find it kinda funny that a lot of people in this site have never read theory and instead have learned some sort of watered down version based on the posts of the people that have actually read (at least SOME) theoryhis response is:
<that's literally how it's supposed to work. the vanguard does Organization, Education, and Agitation. Education is the process of actually teaching people real Communism. But Agitation is the process where you get people riled up without caring whether their understanding of theory is "perfect." Both are useful parts of struggle. Organizing is preparing people for actual militant class struggle where you kill or die.
<Lenin riled up the peasants against the kulaks without caring whether they understood "theory." But the proletarian vanguard party needs to have a non-vulgarized understanding of theory, which is why the party has to be purged of vulgarizers, opportunists, revisionists, and idealists.This anon seems to be making
several points other than "vanguard party" and so far you have nothing to say about any of them. In fact his wider point seems to be about the purpose of education vs. agitation. Where education is for the most advanced section of the proletariat, i.e. what Lenin calls the vanguard, and agitation is for quickly spreading the notion of the necessity of class struggle, without as much care put into combatting vulgarization. Do we have Marx mentioning that sort of dynamic? Idk. Maybe. Maybe not. What difference does it make quote mining him to disprove anon's point? Say why anon is wrong using your own critical thinking skills, not ctrl+f.
>>2646221We call that florida rage
>>2646232>you couldn't actually say why he said was wrong. you simply quoted two words "vanguard party" and ignored everything else he said. and now your cope is to appeal to the authority of Marx, in order to defeat Lenin. That isn't an argument. Actually you're not even doing that much. You're asking others to do the research for you. You're saying, essentially "unless you can find Marx saying vanguard parties are necessary, Lenin is wrong, and by extension anon's post" All of this. All of this when you could have simply just said “I couldn’t find anything” and not have wasted your own time. So you couldn’t find anything. Not a single thing. But you know what? I can find something related to the subject of vanguardism in Marx’s own words. Chapter II of the manifesto, first few words too. Do know what they say?
>In what relation do the Communists stand to the proletarians as a whole?>The Communists do not form a separate party opposed to the other working-class parties.>They have no interests separate and apart from those of the proletariat as a whole.>They do not set up any sectarian principles of their own, by which to shape and mould the proletarian movement.>The Communists are distinguished from the other working-class parties by this only: 1. In the national struggles of the proletarians of the different countries, they point out and bring to the front the common interests of the entire proletariat, independently of all nationality. 2. In the various stages of development which the struggle of the working class against the bourgeoisie has to pass through, they always and everywhere represent the interests of the movement as a whole.>The Communists, therefore, are on the one hand, practically, the most advanced and resolute section of the working-class parties of every country, that section which pushes forward all others; on the other hand, theoretically, they have over the great mass of the proletariat the advantage of clearly understanding the line of march, the conditions, and the ultimate general results of the proletarian movement.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm >>2646175Already happened with Spain and Portugal. They are called Hispanics.
>>2646163And both accomplish nothing
>>2646253So let me get this straight, anon was wrong about the distinction between education and agitation because you ctrl+f'd through marx and couldn't find "vanguard party?"
>>2644959Wrong. The second world has dissolved into first and third world. Russia is third world
>>2645434Wrong. You are bourgeois and imperialist-minded for mistaking Lenin Thought for social-fascist and imperialist deviations. The exploitation of the Third-World—which is inseparably connected with genocide—and especially the exploitation of colonies by a handful of “Great” Powers, increasingly transforms the “civilised” world into a parasite on the body of billions in the proletarian nations. The Roman proletarian lived at the expense of society. Imperialism somewhat changes the situation. The working amerikan settler labor aristocrat lives expense of the billions of rest of world.
>>2645438amerikans, cant make their owuyghs even now. You think amerikans can make their own hamburgers without imperialism?
>>2646314lmao
people have been arguing here that NATO would resist
>>2646313I’m not surprised by the stupidity of your answer. Can’t even understand the basics of the manifesto, can’t even understand my post. I didn’t even mention education or agitation you actual fucking lobotomite. I clearly directed all my goddamn criticism towards the other anons acceptance of vanguard parties you trog.
>>2646317>You think amerikans can make their own hamburgers without imperialism?After a socialist revolution? Yeah. Give me them wageless classless burgers
>>2646317Is China third world or first world?
>>2646253>>The Communists, therefore, are on the one hand, practically, the most advanced and resolute section of the working-class parties of every country, that section which pushes forward all othersThis is the definition of a Vanguard Party tho
>>2646335That’s not vanguard party, that’s vanguard you twat.
>The Communists do not form a separate party opposed to the other working-class parties. >>2645821Bruises are technically internal bleeding.
>>2646341Not technically, literally
>>2645821he probably punched himself in the tummy a few times
>>2646331The only burger Yanks will have post-revolution is a fat nothing burger
>>2646314Performative nonsense. The Euro will get fucked by the Yank and thank the Yank for it. And then blame Russia amd 'raise concerns' about China.
>>2646341When people talk of internal bleeding they mean organs
>>2646347Thank god, i need to lose weight
>>2646326Why are you a marx purist? why is lenin wrong? you have yet to do anything other than appeal to the authority of Marx over the authority of Lenin. But I want your actual reasoning as an independent person, not quotes you consider sacrosanct
>>2646347>The only burger Yanks will have post-revolution is a fat nothing burger>>2646317>You think amerikans can make their own hamburgers without imperialism?burgers are overrated anyway. beef is probably the stupidest and most wasteful meat, requiring ten calories of food for every 1 calorie of meat produced. There are superior sources of calories (as well as protein) that cost less energy to produce.
>>2646317>em dashAI post detected
Reporter: The de facto number 2 in Venezuela seemed very reluctant to work with U.S.
Trump: They just gave us 50 million barrels of oil. I know the number 1, she is a terrific person.
Trump on Delcy Rodriguez: She’s a terrific person
Trump is selling seized Venezuelan oil and putting the cash in a bank account in Qatar.
https://www.semafor.com/article/01/14/2026/us-gets-first-500-million-venezuelan-oil-deal-holding-some-proceeds-in-qatar>>2646107why are some us boot lickers getting the ban as well?
Q: Would you be willing to leave NATO to get what you want with Greenland?
TRUMP: Well, I wouldn't be telling you what I'm willing to do. But Greenland is very security for national security, including of Denmark. There's not a thing Denmark can do if Russia or China wants to occupy Greenland. But there's everything we can do. You found that out last week with Venezuela
Q: Are Greenland's limits going to be respected?
TRUMP: Well, we're gonna see what happens with Greenland. We need Greenland for national security. If we don't go in Russia is gonna go in and China is gonna go in. And there's not a thing that Denmark can do about it. But we can do everything about it
Trump on Greenland: I can't rely on Denmark being able to fend themselves off. They were talking about they put a dogsled there.
Reporter: Denmark fought alongside the US in Afghanistan
Trump: Thank you for telling me that. I appreciate it.
>>2646351I guess the performance is the point. The only defense is that maybe Trump is afraid of the political consequences of killing or capturing European troops over Greenland. Too bad Trump despises West-euro politicians and they despise Trump and both know this.
>>2646357Post revolution, everyone will be
treated real food – turmeric octopus (pic 1), crab soup (pic 2), bluespine unicornfish (pic 3), and
bol renversé (pic 4).
You
will eat proper food and you
will not complain, mayo boy.
>>2646365I think some of those countries are on the list because they're mostly black people
>>2646368too bad there's no reason to ever go to greenland
>>2646370Bourgeoisie food
>>2646370>You will eat proper food and you will not complain, mayo boy.I already eat good food like that. I avoid fast food, exercise, eat right, and read. I am not a normal American. Though I am a worker, my habits are not slovenly and self destructive.
>>2646370sign me the fuck up chagos poster, yes i will eat zhe fish
>>2646365yeah kuwait and armenia on here is strange
>>2646355>Why are you a marx purist? This is what you’re going with revisionist? What is purity to you?
>why is lenin wrong?He deviated too much. He put himself above the working man and not with them.
>>2646360You can join the rest of the liberals in “Marx was wrong” line now. Sectarianism remains something to not be appreciated.
>>2646380>[Lenin] deviated too much. He put himself above the working man and not with them.Literally at every single step Lenin combated revisionism, opportunism, reformism, reactionary counter-revolution, and liberalism
>>2646378god, wow mao is so funny sad he doesnt post often anymore
>>2646382I think he made an hour long slop about racial slurs with yugopnik like a week ago
>>2646380Marx knew he was wrong though, he tells you where he was wrong in the many prefaces the reprint had.
,
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/preface.htm >>2646388Give me the exact lines
At some point you’re gonna have to realize politics is fake and just another distraction from death
>>2646381>Literally at every single stepMaking a vanguard party was one of those steps?
>>2646391Are you going proclaim yourself to be “apolitcal” now?
>>2646394Nah, I’m pro death
>>2646382Wow_mao is losing his appeal
Methinks he's getting more and more lib coded
>>2646399
Trump probably confused Uruguay and Uganda.
"Uruguay? That's the African shithole where the muslim communist Zohran Mamdani was born right? Ban them!"
>>2646395so you're like donald trump then, a cowardly nihilist who is too scared of dying alone to kill himself so instead has to make everyone else want to die too
>>2646401Why be scared of the inevitable?
>>2646402Seek and you shall find
>>2646403because you're a subhuman animal and thus you can't comprehend anything more terrifying than the unknown and death is the ultimate unknown
>>2646373Oh sorry you leftcuck only like eating a lasagna shat from Bordiga's rotting ass, I forgot
>>2646408Astralium is a retard but fire was opened on Renee right?
>>2646410She died of vagina overdose, actually. Ate too much.
>>2646407Except I’m not scared of it, everyone else is trying to distract themselves by way of “living their best life” and trying to improve things, I say hell with it all
>>2646420My wife was telling me about it, I’m kinda of worried the story is plant to create some doubt but also I wouldn’t doubt it if it was true.
>>2646412
>everyone else is trying to distract themselves by way of “living their best life” and trying to improve thingsand you're doing the exact same thing, trying to distract yourself by way of living your worst life and being an alienated lonely loser
the US is about to bomb Iran…
if i was greenlander i'd be moving to copenhagen at any expense
>>2646432the air space between iran and israel is near empty now.
>>2646440if you were a greenlander you would be a methhead/alcoholic living in poverty on a reservation and you'd probably kill yourself
>>2646446fucking imperialist pigs.
Too few people here know of about the horrible crimes of Aryan Danes against the Greenlander Mongoloids till as recently as the 1970s…
>>2646448You’re confusing Greenlanders with their far north european colonizers
>>2646446>>2646432Calling it rn: absolutely nothing will happen. Trump will not attack Iran. It's over. Khamenei won. Mass repression on pro-Zionist whores incoming. Leftcom tears are flooding the Arak Soviet right now. Hijabs in full enforcement. Wallahi.
>>2646462dunno…
reports from israel circulated that people must be prepared for shelters.
>>2646470Posturing from Israeli govt to feed hopium to their rabid dog population that Le Ayatollah Regime will be bombed
Not happening
I bet my house on nothing happening
>>2646478lol i'll take that bet
greenlanderS need to mass exodus to continental denmark NOW
>>2646392>Making a vanguard party was one of those steps?you have yet to say why vanguard parties are wrong other than "ummm marx never said they were necessary" which is more of an omission resulting from him dying 34 years before 1917 than a rejection.
Like actually say WHY they are bad
>>2646339>The Communists do not form a separate party opposed to the other working-class parties.That is a temporal statement based on the conditions of Marx's time. By Lenin's time the second international was destroyed and the working class parties, with the exception of the Bolsheviks, betrayed the working class by siding with their respective national bourgeoisie in WW1. Only Lenin and the Bolsheviks embraced the "unthinkable" strategy of revolutionary defeatism over national "social" chauvinism.
>>2646509>Only Lenin and the Bolsheviks embraced the "unthinkable" strategy of revolutionary defeatism over national "social" chauvinism.That doesn't explain why have the party in the ffirst place though
>>2646339>The Communists do not form a separate party opposed to the other working-class parties.the vanguard party is not opposed to other working class parties, only social chauvinist, revisionist, reactionary, reformist, coutner-revolutionary, liberal, conservative, bourgeois, opportunist parties
posing as working class such as, for example, the British """Labor""" Party.
ESCAPE GREENLAND NOW
>>2646515to serve as the organizational expression of the most theoretically advanced section of the revolutionary proletariat, and to coordinate and organize the cooperation between and activities of other organizations which supplement revolutionary activity, like (non-collaborationist non-opportunist) unions, cooperatives, mutual aid groups, militias, councils, etc.
>>2646335Communist China—the most wonderful nation—is third world.
>>2646331You admit it—your hamburger existence is predicated on genocide. Lenin says socialist nation cannot be predicated on imperialism—any supposed hamburger "socialist" reconstruction is utopian.
>>2646357>beef is probably the stupidest and most wasteful meat, requiring ten calories of food for every 1 calorie of meat produced. There are superior sources of calories (as well as protein) that cost less energy to produce.Correct—the amerikans must always insist on the most parasitic modes of existence, for that is their imperialist nature. You have correctly defined the political economy of the treat.
The proletariat are not revolutionary, they can be endlessly divided, distracted, bought off, or brought into petit bourgeois status or you can just fire them and now they’re lumpen. Every form of organization has a counter and none of you have updated your theory in 100 years.
>>2646534ok then be the one to write the theory which describes contemporary conditions so we can all organize based off of our consensus around it.
>>2646523there, much better reasoning.
I have my own critique of the leninist model of the vanguard but I'm also not that anon.
what has gunther to say about the greenland situation?
>>2645743Over $469k now. Guess chuds aren't the only ones who can crowdfund lol
>>2646535The proletariat Marx described is exclusive to the conditions of Paris and London, we don’t have hundreds of factory workers living in the same neighborhoods. We have isolated office cubicles, factories that hire five people, and geographic dispersal that makes organizing impossible.
Also the bourgeois would just glass the world with nukes before giving up power
>>2646541> the bourgeois would just glass the world with nukes before giving up powerSome days I feel that way, and other days I feel like it's not in their class interests to destroy the entire world since the world is the source of their wealth and comfort, and even losing the class struggle is not as bad as losing the whole world.
>>2646543If re-proletarianization were possible it would have happened in the last four or five recessions, instead every prole has a side hustle or a second job because politics is for students and people with money
>>2646509>ummm marx never said they were necessary" which is more of an omission resulting from him dying 34 years before 1917 than a rejection. That’s not an omission. His position would not have changed 34 years later.
>Like actually say WHY they are badYou were already told. It’s a nonsense idea that puts a group of sectarians above the rest of the proletariat. You are supposed to be leveled with the proletariat to avoid sectarianism and opportunism.
>That is a temporal statement based on the conditions of Marx's timeSays you and the rest of liberal menace.
>Only Lenin and the Bolsheviks embraced the "unthinkable" strategy of revolutionary defeatism over national "social" chauvinism.Am I supposed to be impressed here? I’m not. I’m aware of the concept known as survivorship bias.
>>2646517>the vanguard party is not opposed to other working class partiesThe vanguard party by its very nature is opposed to other working class parties. It’s default position is that it is above all others, and it will be determined to remain in that position.
There are also these two points I forgot to copy over.
>They have no interests separate and apart from those of the proletariat as a whole.>They do not set up any sectarian principles of their own, by which to shape and mould the proletarian movement. Let Greenland into the united nations so they can start collecting taxes and raise a militia themselves
>>2646547Arguments of the form:
>"If X were possible, it would have happened already"are wrong because "possibility" only means “can happen,” not “will happen,” let alone “would have happened by now.” So the argument confuses logical or physical possibility with historical inevitability, which makes it invalid. You smuggle the assumption that all possible events must occur quickly, inevitably, or without barriers. But something can be genuinely possible and still require rare conditions, depend on specific choices or incentives, be blocked by costs, risks, or lack of knowledge, or take a long time to develop or discover.
>>2646548>The vanguard party by its very nature is opposed to other working class parties.no. the vanguard party merges with other working class parties and those other working class parties become merged with the vanguard party. the vanguard party only opposes opportunistic, chauvinistic, revisionist, reformist, reactionary, etc. parties which pretend to be working class.
>>2646553How many recessions does the US need to go through before a communist can get elected to a school board let alone take power? The supposed final crisis never comes and we will never have 1850s style proles again, again, automation is advanced enough here that factories need only employ a dozen or so people. That’s not nor would it ever be the nucleus of a new society.
>>2646553Also everything that is possible is inevitable on a long enough timescale, if 200 years isn’t enough I very much doubt 400 or 700 years is enough either
>>2646557a new goalpost? nice!
no response to what I said? nice!
>>2646548>other working class partiesdoes it really matter nowadays when there are precisely zero of those in pretty much every country ? like which party are they going to bother ?
>>2646560Keep coping, Americans will literally nuke the world and reinvent feudalism before considering alternatives
>>2646561Especially when there’s a million of them and they’re all student microsects
>>2646562America can't extract resources from the world if it nukes the world, doomer.
>>2646567i think nuking the world is more an act of anger and denial rather than some serious forward thinking strategy.
>>2646567they don't want to extract resources, they want to kill the gommies
>>2646569>i think nuking the world is more an act of anger and denial rather than some serious forward thinking strategy.yeah, like a kulak burning grain. but unlike the kulak's grain, the world cannot be replaced, and the bourgeoisie know that.
>>2646565All those transitions are made possible with technological changes, capitalism has vastly more and faster technological changes than feudalism, orientalism, and slavery but it hasn’t resulted in it’s overthrow. The recent technological changes have made the proletariat completely impotent.
>>2646543Social-fascism was historically progressive in shipping jobs overseas and industrializing the periphery.
>>2646571>they don't want to extract resources, they want to kill the gommiescommie is just what america calls anyone who stands in america's way of natural resource extraction whether it's a third world national bourgeois, european social democrat, peasant guerilla, or anything in between. america is ideologically anti-communist, but it decreasingly remembers why. maintenance of its own hegemony is priority.
>>2646575capitalism can't last forever, and it doesn't even make sense for it to. It's very historically contingent on 18th and 19th century developments.
>>2646540I wish his was true.
>>2646386everyone in these threads who keeps saying that the EU will capitulate to Trump on the Greenland issue (which is possible don't get me wrong) has been forgetting that if they do the US is gonna just keep trying to seize more land from its allies until the EU is either explicitly a US colony (which would require the entire continent, including citizens, to bend both knees for a regime that is already widely loathed by the world) or until they start kicking the US out of Europe.
this is probably why US interests have been bankrolling far-right European parties like AfD, but it's apparently not moving fast enough for the Trump regime because the US bourgeoisie are getting scared and desperate to try to act on their psychotic NWO plans before the guillotines start coming out.
>>2646583>and it doesn't even make sense for it to.it doesn't have to, "muh the real is rational" is pure cope
>>2646554Stop acting like you had your brain prodded with a fork.
>>2646556>the vanguard party merges with other working class partiesProof? No, no proof. Just a questionable concept with no valid reason for its existence.
>party. the vanguard party only opposes opportunistic, chauvinistic, revisionist, reformist, reactionary, etcIt is significantly more vulnerable to corruption from all of that than a proper communist party.
>>2646559You have point?
>>2646561It is more than just relations with other parties, one must consider inner party relations as well. Top-down leadership has not had a particularly good track record if I do say so myself.
>>2646528But burger with fresh lettuce tho
>>2646583With an apolitical and barely extant proletariat you’re not getting any progress, you might get is the bourgeois trying to synthesize capitalism, feudalism, and oriental production out of climate collapse, which will make both full capitalism and full communism impossible
>>2646570>minor mistake in recalling the title>therefore i winok but my central point was that Marx was not anti "sectarian" but supremely "sectarian" at purging tendencies from the first international which were, in his estimation, ineffective.
>>2646593>With an apolitical and barely extant proletariat other countries exist.
> you’re not getting any progress, you might get is the bourgeois trying to synthesize capitalism, feudalism, and oriental production out of climate collapse, which will make both full capitalism and full communism impossibleyou're highly motivated at crafting a very specific predictive narratives for someone who thinks nothing is to be done.
>>2646586the UK getting colonized and turned into air strip one would be pretty funny they should do it
US MILITARY HARDWARE MOVING TO THE MIDDLE EAST AMID TENSIONS WITH IRAN:
The U.S. is moving a carrier strike group from the South China Sea to the CENTCOM area of responsibility, a source with knowledge tells me @NewsNation
That will take a week or so to complete
Update
>>2646592>local police aren't being chased, harassed, doxed, and painted as an "occupying gestapo army" by the leftthey should be
>>2646601the UKKK is a different story, they will suck off the US sloppy style because they're pretty much already at similar levels of fascistic derangement, which like with AfD has been planned from the start. lots of US interests involved since Brexit in trying to dismantle the NHS and privatize everything.
>>2646592Well maybe if they dont wanna be "harassed and doxed" they should stop abducting random brown children in broad daylight
>>2646590You should make an anti-Leninist Marxist general to explain the core fundamentals of your ideas and why you think Lenin is wrong. I find non-Leninist Marxism is very rare.
>>2646600>other countries existWhen they try anything they get bombed, invaded, subverted until they bend the knee to be able to access the financial systems
>>2646610lots of people have read 1984
>>2646610no but it's required reading in high school
>>2646616Didn't Dengism and Juche solve this shit? Unironically they're the ultimate example to follow in terms of effectively countering the burger reich.
Either just exploit the tendencies of the bourgeoisie to destroy them or just get a fuck ton of nukes and isolate. It's worked for years and is working as of now.
>>2646620My high school only assigned animal farm, which is also stupid but it’s at least honest in its trotskyism
>>2646613>You should make an anti-Leninist Marxist general to explain the core fundamentals of your ideas and why you think Lenin is wrongI prefer being in the walls and hopping out like an ambush predator. But I may one day do that.
>I find non-Leninist Marxism is very rareCapitalism has not taken kindly to it’s existence
>>2646621With China it was just straight up taking the US side in the cold war with the exception of Vietnam and the DPRK, I don’t know enough about the policies of the DPRK to comment outside of their temporary assistance to the CPP-NPA when Kim Jong Il was still alive
>>2646614maybe he uses a diaper.
though, you can see people around gathering to take photos around him. it might not be true.
>>2646594Marx and Engels position on the bakunists are right. it wasn't sectarian, but a critique. one evidence that bakhunin wasn't acting earnestly is that he failed in the Spanish cantonal revolt. something explicitly explained in that book.
also, fuck bakhunin 'jew jew jew' oepn hysteric anti-semitism, fucking deluded rationale to blame everything on jews.
>>2646613"Non-Leninist Marxism" (an oxymoron) is more commonly known as National Socialism, and it's far from rare but the dominant tendency on /USApol/
>>2646634You tire me, truly.
>>2646634You are correct.
>>2646634I don’t think you can really call Hugo Chavez or Evo Morales national socialists, not if you mean in the Hitlerian sense which I think you do
>>2646640Are you calling Marx a “national socialist”
>>2646641He said Non-Leninist Marxism = NatSoc. However, Chavez and Morales are not Marxists at all. So no, they cannot be NatSoc.
>>2646634>"Non-Leninist Marxism" (an oxymoron) were you following the conversation? The other anon, not me, was positing that Lenin was wrong about vanguard parties, and I suggest he make his own thread about it.
>is more commonly known as National SocialismNational Socialism was not "Non Leninist Marxism" and it in fact marketed itself as anti-leninist AND anti-marxist "socialism," and regarded Bolshevism as "Jewish" and Marx as a "subversive Jew." Here is a Nazi poster which slanders Marxism as the "guardian angel of capitalism." What is this ahistorical bait you have posted, mass tor baiter?
>>2646644Marx was Leninist. So no, Marx was not a national socialist. That would be the Zohranist-Plattnerists of USApol.
>>2646645It's kind of amusing how extremely undisciplined and ideologically all over the place Chavez was. Not too long ago someone described it as "a bunch of leftist concepts just stitched together"
>>2646649Historically speaking, syncretism is the rule, not the exception. People throw stuff at the wall and hope it sticks.
>>2646647How was he a Leninist?
>>2646649He was primarily focused in acking the compradors and to protect sovereignty in face of the greasy American imperialists.
The complete opposite of the Zohranist-Plattnerists of USApol, who are interesting in the most pedantic nitpicking about the adjectives and verbs of ideologies, but completely indifferent to the most savage imperialism.
>>2646647>Marx was Leninistthis tbh
>>2646654He studied human history and political economy using the scientific method. Ergo, Leninist. Marx was one of the first, if not
the first Leninist in history.
>>2646621 Dengism set up China to become the new Empire when the USA innevitably falls.
>>2646654the same way John The Baptist was Christian
>>2646658Why does that make him a Leninist though?
>>2646659>China will be the new empire China will never be able to replace the US empire in the power vacuum like the US was able to replace the British Empire.
>>2646663Because that is the definition of Leninism. Some tribes refer to this as Marxism. Both labels are valid and both are defined as studying human society using the scientific method.
Anglo mayo brains really need everything to be spelled out clearly to them smh
>>2646667A big win for the petite bourgeoisie
>>2646634>>2646589>social-imperialistMao, is that you?
>third-most overseas financial assets not a placeholder for imperialism.
>>2646670Why would that be the definition of Leninism though?
>>2646675That's how definitions work, yank. It is the starting point.
>>2646678What makes it deserving of the definition though?
>>2646589Wrong—China is Communist, not imperialist. Communist banks become the biggest banks thanks to the supererior productivity of Communist mode of production. China has vast oversea assets due to Communist international win-win cooperation and shared future for mankind.
>>2646685all greenlanders need to gtfo greenlands at whatever cost NOW. better to live in a cardboard box in copenhagen than what is coming to greenland.
>>2646686>neutral statement>while still supporting israel>somehow construed as pro ayatollahwhat
>>2646686yeah, pro-Iran, and moving the ford csg and moving assets to attack Iran very soon.
>>2646667communism has arrived in new york city
>>2646667and when I said he was Rooseveltist and his "socialism" was petty bourgeois and reformist… I was called "zionist!" LOLOLOL
>>2646694where are the state run monopolies?
>>2646659China doesn't want imperial hegemony because it's a poison pill. Falling rate of profit, endless military bases to maintain, endless regimes to prop up, currency devaluation…. They would be smart to break the cycle.
Explain to me a path to power without at least throwing the small business owner class a bone. "But it's revisionist!"
No, explain to me a pathway to maintaining and holding power that doesn't in some way involve pro-small business policies. You're trying to win and build a revolution, not pass an exam on anti-revisionism. I fail to see a pathway that doesn't give them something, and I'd imagine it's a lot easier to be a small time restaurant or cafe owner in China than it is in America.
>>2646703petit bourgies should be proletarianized as quickly as possible but proles should be given treats like shorter work weeks, higher wages, healthcare, etc. prole standards rising cuts into the petit bourgies first before it affects the haute bourgies so they are the first line of defense of capital
>>2646667Explain to me why this is bad.
>>2646706hahahaha just screwing with you….unless?
>>2646703I mean you can always appeal to the ProudHONist notion of a mutualist union of small producers and use localized economics as a jumping off point. In the grand scheme of things most of the petite bourgeoisie has a paltry amount of productive forces and whatnots under their control, so it's more expedient and efficient to win them over and expropriate the haute bourgeoisie first rather than trying to shoot everyone
What’s really crazy is that Trump probably could have bought Greenland by asking politely and quietly but his personality made this an actual problem
>>2646713Greenland is just one of many countries he wants to dominate by force, it was never just about ownership.
>>2646713the danes were never going to sell, he made an offer for it in his first term
>>2646713Because it's not about Greenland, it's about humiliating countries he sees as vassals
>>2646717seriously try working for a "small paving company", or a "small plumbing company" or any other sort of small corporation in your community, there's more to them than mom and pop coffee shops and other retail entities
>>2646685Source on that? All I can find is stuff on the Venezuela war powers resolution, I didn't know they had a Greenland one as well
>>2646717You were definitely born post-9/11 and grew up with a Starbucks and Wal-Mart on every street corner.
>>2646721t. never been paid in cash in his entire lifetime
For what it's worth:
Greenland is roughly 25% larger than Alaska but has only 1/13th of the population. Mostly spread about amongst Inuit speaking villages of less than 200 people.
The Greenlanders are used to swimming on their beaches and conducting daily life in -20F weather and spending 4 months a year in total darkness / total sunlight.
Good luck with that.
>>2646717unlike you, I actually talk to people and the masses worship small business owners. You and I can both know that small business owners are the gatekeepers of fascism, but that doesn't change that the average prole in this country thinks the guy who owns 2 restaurants is the same level of class as the person he's employing at those restaurants, after all they both work shifts there!
You also have to understand that small business owners are the gatekeepers of local power. I recently did an action wherein I started calling out the owner of a bar downtown for letting a woman and 2 kids live in a moldy house. Morally this was a correct thing to do, and we did get the mold issue resolved. But it also created a lot of enemies. I'm not welcome at that bar anymore, and word got around and I'm not welcome at a few other places, and I've been told I'm blacklisted by these small businesses in terms of getting hired, because I've openly engaged in that sort of action.
Which, fuck em, they are class enemies and that shows you as much, but the perception from people when I engaged in this action was one of "well you know how much work it is to run a business" or "he's not the enemy, the banker or the finance company is" or "he's a good man, his wife just died, cut him some slack"
The proles did not see it as "fuck this small business tyrant, this parasite" they saw it as an attack on their community and it resulted in me getting blacklisted.
How do you suppose you gain power if you have no ability to do realpolitik among this class? I am literally telling you these things from actual organizing experience. The place that I was able to set up a community pantry? Also a small business, a local cafe. There's a dozen of these around here. Are they a marketing tool? Sure, but there's also a desire among the business owner class to legitimately engage with their community. Optics or principles, same result.
Revolutionaries need a place to meet, if you get blacklisted from all of the small spaces around you, well you're never making revolution happen. It's a matter of applying mass line to your material conditions and seeing that the results are, and learning from them.
>>2646723Good luck with what?
>>2646723Greenlanders are not going to launch some guerilla war lmfao. All that will happen is Denmark will chicken out and the US will construct even more bases there. You know that Greenland already has US bases there right? To zero resistance by Greenlanders.
>>2646723one (1) nuclear submarine and the whole island falls under ownership of jpmorgan chase
>>2646718Trve, everything is a clash of personalities and authoritarian archetypes.
>>2646725the great 200 person village inuit revolution
>>2646725Trying to live life as a McWalmart employee when it becomes the next state
>The US military is deploying an aircraft carrier to the Middle East from the South China Sea, according to a source familiar with the matter - Al Arabiya.
Update
>>2646724Small business porkies are all too often like the French nobility in the Vendée. Objectively their class interests are opposed to workers, but because they live and work in relatively close proximity and operate on a relatively small scale, its much easier for workers to fall for a false consciousness around them.
for real. i hope someone is there to tell the greenlanders that right now is the time to leave. the switch to being a USA territory will be instantaneous and without warning. and once it happens they will be prevented from leaving by the USA (through economic deprivation) so that they can be forced to maintain infrastructure and a rudimentary economy at the service of the USA military. they will be routinely murdered and raped with impunity by the occupying USA forces.
>>2646741>i hope someone is there to tell the greenlanders that right now is the time to leaveThey should learn to code
>>2646667New Yorkers, enrich yourselves.
>>2646765Banning Plato from education do be based tho.
>>2646765m-muh western civilization
>>2646755Cuck or politics?
>>2646703Well China's policy under Reform And Opening Up was called "Birdcage Theory" with the principle of "Grasp the large, let go of the small." which let small business owners do their thang while keeping an iron grip on state owned enterprises, essential monopolies, etc.
>Larry Ellison named a giant yacht "Izanami" after a Shinto deity, but quickly renamed it after it was pointed out that the name spelled "I'm a Nazi"
beyond comedy
>>2646802pretty sure two opec member states meet all the time.
>>2645991CHOOSE PURPLE LIGHTNING 💜 ⚡
CHOOSE PURPLE LIGHTNING 💜 ⚡ Delcy is sending a representative to the US tomorrow
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/14/world/americas/venezuela-diplomat-us-visit-washington.htmlVenezuelan Envoy to Make First Washington Trip in Years Amid Thaw
Félix Plasencia, an envoy of the interim government, will travel to the United States on the day the opposition leader María Corina Machado is to meet President Trump.
>>2646339>That’s not vanguard party, that’s vanguardHe was writing the pamphlet for the Communist League. Which was a political party…
>>2646797The only Plato being banned is the SJW mistranslation. After all, he proves that Capitalists have gold souls and that's why they deserve to rule us. Just read the real translation by Grok that takes out the SJW meddling for the truth.
>>2646765LaRouchites going crazy right now
They believe in a historical struggle between Aristotelians and Platonists >>2646830Minnesota was promised to Somalia 3000 years ago. Can it, chud.
>>2646828Well hard to argue at this point she wouldn't have been a better option
>>2646828polls are bourgeois lies because they present a false range of options and tend to consult older property owning people who actually bother to answer calls from people not on their contact lists.
>>2646828oh no, they've learned nothing from sequels ruining franchises.
>>2646836Newsom might have been able to win the general against vance but hel'l never win the primary
A white man can never win the dem primary again. What will newsom say when aoc tells him hes white and male on the debate stage? What will his response be? That that doesnt matter?
newsom is going to get obliterated by wokies
>>2645743it's almost 500K now
i hope trump confiscates it and cites some bullshit and makes more people mad. the more people he pisses off the better. i want him to have a huge tantrum and just generally make the US government as hated as possible by its own people
>>2646840i don't care which DEMON RAT wins the DEMON RAT primary. DEMON RATS and REEE PUKE LICKERS must DIE and their parties be swept into the DUST BIN of HISTORY
>>2646840>What will newsom say when aoc tells him hes white and male on the debate stage? What will his response be? That that doesnt matter?it's funny, because harris tried her best to not use idpol during her presidential career. aoc might not do it.
>>2646841your everyday patriot face be like.
>>2646845>>2646840*her vice-presidential career
and presidential race.
holly crap I contracted the two things, lmao.
>>2646845Biden got momentum when the primaries swung toward the southern sates, where blacks make up the majority of Democratic primary voters. Who will southern blacks pick Newsom or Harris?
>>2646828@theZOGbypoll
is this real?
>>2646840If anything the party thinks they overreached with Kamala and are going to go back to a Biden type. He'll have a women VP though.
>>2646845AOC's boyfriend is a white ginger. Doubt she will bring up race but she will speak Spanish at some point.
>>2645743>Call Trump a pedo>get 300kI like this new game
>>2646840>>2646845…Is AoC the "you're a white male" type? I don't think I've really heard that all that much from her.
I think Newsom has some initial momentum but might get bogged down in primary debates. It really depends on how well he can thread the needle of faux-"progressivism" and establishment politics. Like he might have some token policies that don't change much to appeal to more progressive elements (maybe something like "I'll create a commission to cap the cost of college tuition and reinstate affirmative action.") but I think he wants to run on being the "Anti-Trump" candidate, like I imagine him trying to come out of the gate early talking about throwing Trump behind bars.
>>2646850>If anything the party thinks they overreached with Kamala and are going to go back to a Biden type. He'll have a women VP though. Unironically the take I've been seeing from a lot of libs is just "Kamala and Hillary BOTH losing proves that America is just too SEXIST for a woman to be President!" And not, y'know, they ran bad and uninspiring campaigns with a message of "Suck it up!" While Trump was running on "I'll make you, personally, rich." Like it was a choice between a hundred scratchers and an unpaid internship and then people guffawed the scratchers guy won.
>>2646849>Biden got momentumbiden got momentum when the DNC colluded to left bernie out. the famous ''all out party endorsement for biden". bernie had some serious chances until they conspired to crush bernie. treacherous tulsi gabbard included (now Do Not Invite DNI director). in fact, there was a leak that obomba didn't want biden to run.
Every post by "CP"USA anon could be written at one third the length without losing any information. I've noticed this months ago.
>>2645743while it's good to see anti-Trump sentiment, "sit on my ass and send money" really is peak lib resistance.
>>2646849>the Dem primary is decided by states a Dem will never win in a million years.Great system.
>>2646850>AOC's boyfriend is a white ginger.BWC ftw again
>>2646852All my money is on Newsom. He's basically democrat royalty at this point and as you said dems are convinced a minority can't win.
>>2646853> tulsi gabbard included (now Do Not Invite DNI director)What happened with that? I remembers libs freaking out about her because Russia but Trump hates her now?
>>2646830Articles of impeachment have been filed against Tim Walz.
Nick Shirley’s videos were the “Frank Ferdinand” moment for Minnesota.
>>2646869To think all of this started because of a fake daycare. I guess some people never Lear.
>>2646811Why do zionists love nazis so much
>>2646866>What happened with that? I remembers libs freaking out about her because Russia but Trump hates her now?sell-out. that's what happened. in 2019 goes to say that Venezuela isn't a threat. then endorsed trumpedo's gunboat diplomacy towards Venezuela.
>>2646868that's… a weird timing.
>>2646871>>2646869HABBENINGS YAAY
honkoid status?
>>2646840>What will newsom say when aoc tells him hes white and male on the debate stage???????????
Fuck off back to /pol/ retard.
>>2646876They're raiding the house with the shooting victim in question, shit's escalating fast
>>2646846didn't this soybeard fascist sell plushies of himself as a baby wearing a diaper?
>>2646871on polymarket putting 1000$ on nothing happens
>>2646853It's amazing how many people seem to have forgotten this.
Bernie had a very good chance of winning in 2020. He was crushing the early votes. The entire establishment had to drop out and endorse Biden after he finally won a race in South Carolina. Had Warren and Tulsi dropped out in turn and endorsed Bernie he would have won, but they didn't because they're snakes. Warren in particular is so pathetic, she bowed to the DNC and got NOTHING out of it. Bernie would have handed her VP no questions asked. Now she's been sitting in the cuck chair watching her precious CFPB get dismantled by Trump.
>>2646852aoc probably have a great chance with latinos, but fucking rubio will out-latino her. because rubio it's the white guy that brown discriminated latinos, very commonly, want to be.
also, she has used identity politics in the past with wording like
>Women like me aren't supposed to run for office>I wasn't born to a wealthy or powerful family — mother from Puerto Rico, dad from the South Bronx.>first person of color to ever representwith little else to say about her achievements in the progressive caucuses. like, she tried to to an intersectional speech between idpol and other things, like gender, race, work-class, but it's useless if she doesn't have an economic plan besides saying 'hey, let's put in our bios we/them' to teach a lesson to the chud people or 'tax the riches' while attending to a gala of rich people'.
not as odious as 'vote for me because I am woman, what more of an outsider as a president woman' 'we came, we saw, he (Gadhafi) died' hillary
>>2646886>Warrenremember when she said that bernie was a misogynist without evidence? fun times.
>>2646886Another thing is
THEY LITERALLY CANCELLED THE PRIMARY I didn't even get to vote in my state. The DNC just decided "nope it's over we pick Biden no more voting thank you"
>>2646891eh, once bernie lost the first bernie-biden fight disastrously because of that collusion, it was pointless to keep the race. benie chances evaporated.
Ok y'all I just woke up from a long ass circadian disordered nap. It's 10pm. What crazy bullshit happened today?
>>2646888>>2646895>BLM 2.0Aka nothingburger reloaded
>>2646898Fuck it I'll take the black ops meth. Give me the limitless pill to destroy the fascist enemy
>>2646895c'moooooon burn down another police station!
>>2646891And then they did the same thing in 2024.
>>2646902Andropov was right these people basically have there own type of mental condition/cognitive impairment
>>2646898what are these pills that podcasters hawk anyway? rebranded vitamins or something? sugar pills?
>>2646910pathetic. why do they bother? for whom is the farce?
>>2646913To be fair it's Greenland we're talking about. There's no way they can station more than like a hundred troops there at one time for any length of time, and it's not like any hypothetical strike force will be a mountain of troops too
TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE SHOT BY ICE IN THEIR CAR
>>2646907The Democrats are better at revolutionary defeatism than the left smh
>>2646906>>2646895>>2646871"3 people ambushed an ice officer after a traffic stop, being attacked by a snow shovel and broom handle, the ice officer shot in self defense"
>>2646913If the US does attack EUcucks need their own national martyrs on Greenland soil.
That's the only reason.
>>2646918ICE is so bad at lying it's embarrassing.
You don't have to put in any effort to be evil anymore. You can just do whatever evil shit you want, lie brazenly about it, and the entire media will take your lies seriously and a third of the country will believe it immediately.
>>2646913Tbh Europe could never hope to actually defeat the US in a war over Greenland so there wouldn't be much point in actually trying. If they were really serious about keeping the US out by dorce then the only course or action would be to use the Anglo-French nuclear deterrent. But having even token forces there is essentially daring the US to kill European soldiers in order to take the island. They're basically betting on the burgers not being willing to do that. Personally I think there's a pretty good chance the military and foreign policy establishment wouldn't be willing to endanger NATO to satisfy whatever delusions Trump is under about America's need for Greenland.
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>>2646928>>2646930Did you forget a couple years ago when nationwide riots burned down entire city blocks over George Floyd? Every outbreak of major unrest begins with more benign shit like demonstrations.
>>2646871NYT:
>The agent shot an immigrant from Venezuela in the leg while trying to arrest him, an official said. The shooting comes a week after an ICE agent fatally shot a woman in the city.I bet he celebrated the kidnapping of Maduro.
>>2646932>>2646924>>2646937Supposedly it's on Iceout, I swear I'm not just saying shit but unfortunately the person who told me came up short with actual broofs
>>2646930At first I thought it was treats issue, but after Good got murdered they started getting more emboldened. So I don't think the issue is that they're afraid of being uncomfortable or even dying.
It's that they can't CONCEIVE of anything but peaceful protest. They were raised to believe that everything can be solved by non-violent resistance a la MLK and Gandhi, and that violence is never the answer. They were essentially brainwashed into docility by well-meaning liberal schoolteachers.
Also a lot of them probably think that they just need to hold out until the midterms then they can voot and then the Democrats will ride in on white horses and save them.
If Trump genuinely does cancel the midterms I think you will see things change dramatically.
>>2646913>pathetic. why do they bother? for whom is the farce?Fascism in the EU is not just built from rightoids hooting like baboons about outgroups. Everyone left of them needs to create the conditions to sell the people on it. They have to be useless, pathetic *and* gatekeep any concept of an alternative. Then at least the fascists let you blow some steam right? Take it out on *someone*. Maybe go on a little war here and there, train more proxy warriors and host the fascist international.
Also, we Europoors take orders from Washington and shamelessly report on USAno culture war happenings like they are our own, that nobody can relate to.
There is a great benefit from importing the USAno culture war, because, well… we are gonna be doing whatever the US mandates anyway. From the social democrats to the actual revanchist fascists they are bent on atlanticism first, NATO nationalism second and maybe domestic grievances third if at all.
So in making our media and discourse track the USA's we get to convalidate the propaganda. Their slogans can be our slogans, their brainrot can be our brainrot. Their culture war can be our culture war. No more of needing to bend over backwards to accommodate NATO goals to the local worldview. We can all fit in the democrat/republican spectacle if we try!
Maybe it's just my impression but, it seems like the entire US government is in free-fall collapse right now? Like it's really "nobody's at the wheel" hours.
>>2646960 (me)
AKA "western civilization" AKA "the garden" AKA "the free world"(jk this one is only for the periphery suckups to feel included)
>>2646976Unsure what you mean. European countries will still have functioning bureaucratic states tomorrow morning; in the US, this seems to be less and less reliably the case.
>>2646972The federal government has devolved into pure id. No pretense of doing anything to help anyone, it's just pure brutality and corruption.
>>2646898pill that gives you ptsd
>>2646930despite what you may state as your ancestry you're also American too at the end of the day
>>2646898Imagine earning a living entirely by hawking pills labeled shit like "Make Your Body Great Again" that's just a proprietary mix of Kratom and Viagra.
>>2647000nothing beats the trump phone and the freedom phone.
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